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Al-Monitor: Turkey is increasingly asking about the advisability of purchasing the S-400 air defense system, "which brought so many problems"

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Ankara is not going to abandon the deal on Russian air defense systems, despite US sanctions. But at the same time, Turkey is increasingly asking about the advisability of buying from Russia the S-400 air defense system, which brought so many problems.


Writes about this edition Al-Monitor.

Increasingly, voices are heard asking why these systems were acquired at all, taking into account the headache they brought to Ankara. Many analysts are unclear where the S-400 will be deployed and what their mission will be.

Political columnist Fikret Bila says questions about why the S-400 deal was not put on hold, and why the systems have not yet been deployed and activated, remain unanswered.

The S-400s were purchased against US objections, so it must have been calculated that the benefits of this purchase would outweigh the losses incurred from the damage this move would cause to relations with the United States.

- Bila wrote on the T24 news portal.

The journalist cannot understand why they were in such a hurry to buy Russian air defense systems worth $ 2,5 billion, if they were not particularly needed. And this is at a time when Turkey is going through a serious economic crisis.

Al-Monitor believes the acquisition of the S-400 was more political than military. Driven by Erdogan's deep dislike and mistrust of the West, Ankara appears to have impulsively bought Russian systems without weighing the consequences.

According to the newspaper, the point is that now the S-400 is quickly becoming a burden for Turkey. Erdogan's dilemma is that he cannot turn the tide without losing his political credibility and handing over all the trump cards to the growing opposition to his government.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 29 December 2020 11: 32
    +4
    Faxington's Voice in Action!
    1. Civil
      Civil 29 December 2020 11: 40
      +2
      You never know what voices in Turkey ...
      1. Temples
        Temples 29 December 2020 11: 45
        -4
        The Turks, like the Bulorussians, want both yours and ours.
        Or they will rip apart or return to the stall.
        Turks will choose wealth in the house.
        Bucks is driving.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 29 December 2020 12: 01
          -4
          Increasingly, voices are being heard asking why these systems were acquired at all, taking into account the headache they brought to Ankara
          Quote: Temples
          Turks will choose wealth in the house.
          Weaklings and rags!
          1. Temples
            Temples 29 December 2020 12: 07
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Weaklings and rags!

            Why?
            From the Russians, the Turks took what they wanted -
            - two gas pipelines. Moreover, the second gas pipeline is a profitable part for transit.
            - nuclear power plant free of charge. Moreover, after commissioning, the energy will be sold and part of the income will be Turkish.
            - several million Russian tourists bringing several billion dollars to the Turks.
            - Russian vegetable market
            - Russian building materials market
            - Russian market of construction contracts.

            Turks are not weaklings at all. wink

            So who has whom?
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 29 December 2020 12: 25
              0
              Quote: Temples
              - Russian vegetable market

              Vegetables, in particular the notorious tomatoes, have really been pushed aside by the domestic producer (Dagestan), but in terms of fruits, they are ahead of the rest (citrus fruits).
            2. KCA
              KCA 29 December 2020 12: 25
              +3
              The Turks did not receive the nuclear power plant for free, they received the Russian nuclear power plant on their territory
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 29 December 2020 14: 19
                +4
                The nuclear power plant on the territory is a serious tama, given the ambitions of the Sultan.
                If there is something there, it will not be enough for anyone. And a cover for the atomic program.
                And the S-400 was bought to protect against the color revolution. Now they are maneuvering.
                They don't need the F-35, they need no one else. did not want to bomb them. hi
        2. MinskFox
          MinskFox 29 December 2020 12: 49
          +3
          Dear, please write the name of my nation correctly!
      2. Machito
        Machito 29 December 2020 12: 12
        -3
        Turkey pursues an independent active imperial policy in the Middle East, which conflicts with the rest of the West. All this was already in its history, and almost ended with the destruction of Turkey, when it was occupied by the USA, Great Britain, France, Italy, Greece. Only an alliance with Soviet Russia made it possible to preserve Turkey. Erdogan repeats Ataturk's policy to restore greatness to his country. And the S-400 must be deployed so as to ensure the safety of Inzherlik.
      3. EnGenius
        EnGenius 30 December 2020 11: 23
        0
        And why no one asks the question, where during the economic crisis Turkey took 20 billion. $ for 100 F-35 and another 10 billion. $ for the Patriot air defense system?
  2. Falx
    Falx 29 December 2020 11: 35
    0
    The Trojan horse that Turkey also bought ...
    all that is bad for NATO and its members ...
    1. nnm
      nnm 29 December 2020 12: 02
      0
      Do not confuse your wool with the state !!! NATO was created in the interests of only one country - the United States, to which other NATO members will give part of their sovereignty, carry out the purchase of weapons, etc. Therefore, only the United States should be "good" in NATO. And whether the rest is bad is not important. Otherwise, the American military will quickly find oil and violation of the principles of democracy in a country that does not agree with this ...
      1. Falx
        Falx 29 December 2020 12: 15
        +2
        what does my wool have to do with it? Dear, what are you talking about?

        did you understand my post?

        the sale of these complexes to Turkey deepened the already existing split in NATO. Obvious? Yes...
        Who benefits from such a split? for Russia .. Is it logical? like yes ...
        in other words - these complexes for NATO are nothing more than a Trojan horse that splits them from the inside ...
        What is incomprehensible here?
        1. nnm
          nnm 29 December 2020 12: 32
          +3
          Quote: Falx
          what does my wool have to do with it? Dear, what are you talking about?

          Clearly, we are not familiar with the classics of Russian cinema, approx.
          Quote: Falx
          the sale of these complexes to Turkey deepened the already existing split in NATO. Obvious? Yes...

          Quote: Falx
          The Trojan horse that Turkey also bought ...
          all that is bad for NATO and its members ...

          Who is "bad" from this purchase? Belgium? Iceland? Maybe Luxembourg? And do not share a secret - what (SPECIFICALLY) does the defensive air defense complex threaten these respected countries? Just do not start about bookmarks - if you wanted, they would simply disassemble it by cogs, by lines of code and check everything.
          By the way, why did the Turkish contract deepen the split in NATO so much, while Greece's purchase of the S-300, no?
          Agree, your conclusions are just ridiculous! All the hysteria of the United States about this purchase is out of horror that Turkey will show other countries that there is an alternative to an umbrella from the United States and that money has flowed past the American military-industrial complex.
          1. Falx
            Falx 29 December 2020 13: 00
            +3
            I'm not talking about Iceland or Lühemburg, they are so much since.
            By the way, why did the Turkish contract deepen the split in NATO so much, while Greece's purchase of the S-300, no?
            Agree, your conclusions are just ridiculous! All the hysteria of the United States about this purchase is out of horror that Turkey will show other countries that there is an alternative to an umbrella from the United States and that money has flowed past the American military-industrial complex.
            disagree. Turkey's refusal to obey the "big brother" and the mattress hysteria about this is the split in NATO. at the same time, it is even unimportant why the mattress covers will be hysterical, the main thing is that they will be hysterical and impose sanctions against their NATO ally. isn't it obvious?
            They were not so hysterical about Greece then.
  3. Kara
    Kara 29 December 2020 11: 35
    +18
    You have to pay for risk diversification
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 December 2020 11: 42
    +4
    For her, as far as I remember, has already paid off? Gorgeous. Now blow it up defiantly! Directly somewhere in a well-viewed place, under television cameras ... Maybe they will forgive?
  5. paul3390
    paul3390 29 December 2020 11: 47
    +4
    It all depends on what the Sultan expects in the near future .. It seems that he does not rule out the option of having to fight off dear NATO partners .. Well, or a country very close to the West. Otherwise, and in fact, it is not very clear that he would not buy, if not American, then Eurocomplexes .. Moreover, the Ottomans do not seem to have countries with particularly strong aviation in their close neighbors.
  6. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2020 11: 48
    -3
    Quote: Civil
    You never know what voices in Turkey ...

    Anatolia will become the site of a great ascent, and the 21st century will be the century of Turkey, the editor-in-chief of the Yeni Şafak newspaper Ibrahim Karagul wrote on December 28 in his article. “In the 21st century, when the world was divided into East and West, Turkey began to implement its project, designed for about a thousand years. He was almost resurrected, revived, began to act in all spheres, "the author writes." Turkey is one of the central countries that will determine the world of the future. It will not be easy, but the world will eventually accept this truth. Each of their interventions, aimed at “stopping Turkey”, led to their own failure, ”says chief editor Yeni Şafak.

    He asks for attention to the agenda of Western and Asian media, in which Turkey is one of the world's main topics of discussion.

    “This century will be the century of the rise of Turkey. Despite all the global calculations, Turkey will stand out as the “central power of the region”. Anatolia is the birthplace of political ascent. Like its rise after the Crusades, Turkey will become the site of the Third Great Revival after the Third Great Upheaval, ”Karagül stresses.

    As he explains, despite the fact that the Middle East region has turned into an arena for confrontation between global powers, Ankara intervened in these plans, all this gave rise to a reality that went beyond political parties and self-interest groups. “And those who join this axis will create a great future,” the author emphasizes. Note, Yeni Şafak (New Dawn is a Turkish daily newspaper. Founded on September 19, 1994 by journalist and former member of the ruling Justice and Development Party Mehmet Ojaktan in Istanbul.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 29 December 2020 12: 03
      +4
      "Turkey will become the site of the Third Great Revival after the third great upheaval," Karagul emphasizes. "///
      ----
      He speaks beautifully! smile
      Easy to say, harder to do.
      Turkey has certainly made great strides in the past 20-25 years.
      But greatness is still a long road.
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 30 December 2020 00: 04
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        He speaks beautifully!


        "He loads the snow-white camel of our patience with gold bars of his wisdom" lol
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 29 December 2020 13: 27
      +3
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      “And those who have joined this axis will create a great future”, 

      There was already one Axis ... It ended for her, everything is bad. Some are still under occupation.
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Turkey will stand out as the “central power of the region”. Anatolia is the birthplace of political ascent. Like its rise in the aftermath of the Crusades, Turkey will be the site of the Third Great Revival after the Third Great Upheaval. "

      And such slogans, I have already heard. Only there, about the Reich was. From the dude who pushed them, a piece of a burnt jaw remained.
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 29 December 2020 13: 41
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Anatolia will be the site of a great ascent and the 21st century will be the century of Turkey,

      The coming years will be the end of Turkey's statehood, in principle. Turkey has no future. There are many reasons for this. It remains to wait for a good reason.
    4. Quadro
      Quadro 31 December 2020 23: 46
      0
      It's funny how the Western countries in the Middle Ages played up to the Ottomans, destroying Byzantium, and now they have a headache not from Orthodox Christians - no co-religionists or Europeans, but from the cruel Muslim Turks, who still have medieval orders, albeit softer than in Saudi ...
  7. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 29 December 2020 11: 48
    +2
    Without weighing, or deliberately causing these consequences?
  8. LifeIsGood
    LifeIsGood 29 December 2020 11: 51
    +7
    Al-Monitor is an English-language online media outlet launched in February 2012 by Jamal Daniel. Based in Washington, USA. The publication specializes in reporting and analytical materials on events in the Middle East

    That's all ... what you need to know to assess the "impartiality" of this "sharashka"))))
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 29 December 2020 12: 11
    +3
    Al-Monitor: Turkey is increasingly asking about the advisability of purchasing the S-400 air defense system, "which brought so many problems"

    It makes no sense to discuss THIS .... this is THEIR business, not happy, like others, is and will always be.
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 December 2020 12: 41
      +3
      So if it were not for the bucking of the United States, then there would be practically no dissatisfied ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 December 2020 13: 06
        +2
        This is understandable, as well as the fact that there are also those who understand that it is impossible to eat a fish and .... do not choke on a bone, this must be very, very hard to try.
        1. cniza
          cniza 29 December 2020 13: 11
          +3
          Nothing time will put everything in its place, the United States will be forced to accept ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 29 December 2020 13: 15
            +1
            Options are possible ... we will not guess, events are happening quickly, we'll see.
            1. cniza
              cniza 29 December 2020 13: 18
              +2
              So we don't think ... I know for sure that there will be peace after the war, but only when? ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 29 December 2020 13: 47
                +1
                We are not Nostradamus, Casey and Grandma Vanga ... but listen to the newly-minted Kasandras, as you don’t want to ... do what you must and be what will.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 29 December 2020 14: 51
                  +2
                  No, only without these predictors, I want to understand that the world will not go crazy ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 29 December 2020 14: 57
                    +1
                    Predictors, with whole coils DO NOT HAPPEN!
                    If the coils are normal, then this is a charlatan.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 29 December 2020 14: 59
                      +2
                      Quote: rocket757

                      If the coils are normal, then this is a charlatan.


                      He believes that this is his business, since the demand for such is still very high ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 29 December 2020 15: 04
                        +1
                        Now this sphere has been adjusted, sensitive, but they have enough clients ...
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 29 December 2020 15: 05
                        +2
                        It seems to me that the Turks will hold out and no US vangovators will help ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 29 December 2020 15: 09
                        +1
                        The people of the South, they have from love to hate .... quickly, in short.
                        The Sultan is balancing almost in the middle, how things will turn out, Allah alone knows.
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 29 December 2020 15: 11
                        +2
                        So let him with Allah build his policy, solve the problems of his country ...
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 29 December 2020 12: 18
    +1
    Well, you can, on the scales, put military coups in Turkey ... and then no jurisdiction of the military. And take into account that the military, integrated into NATO, study in Britain, Germany, the United States and not always controlled by Turkey.
    Erdogan resolved this issue.
  • cniza
    cniza 29 December 2020 12: 40
    +3
    But at the same time in Turkey they are increasingly asking about the advisability of buying the S-400 air defense system from Russia, which brought so many problems.


    These problems were brought by the United States, not the Russian S-400 ...
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 29 December 2020 12: 45
    0
    Doubts about the S-400 are understandable. The complexes will have to be applied or not, this is still a question, but the sanctions - here they are, in their own skin, are already fully felt.
    But apparently, the show is most important to the Sultan. There is nothing you can do about it. request
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 29 December 2020 13: 15
      +1
      And the military and economic elite never existed without NATO ....... and for the present (at least according to the Russian version) the Turks are not being persecuted yet.
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  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 29 December 2020 12: 59
    +3
    It's simple, the Ottomans show an independent policy, and the Yankees do not like it, they need obedient vassals who will subservience to the big white Bwana.
    They also bought the complexes from the geopolitical enemy of sush - Russia. How not to get angry))
  • Andobor
    Andobor 29 December 2020 13: 30
    +1
    Yes, Erdogan has not imprisoned all of the subordinates yet.
  • Cananecat
    Cananecat 29 December 2020 13: 41
    0
    Purely hypothetically ... but could the Turks use the S-400 against us, during an extremely harsh escalation of the conflict in Donbas, transferring them to Ukraine if the Russian Federation decides to intervene?
    1. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 29 December 2020 18: 19
      +1
      No, they can not.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 29 December 2020 14: 17
    +1
    The S-400 is quickly becoming a burden for Turkey
    This means that being in the role of slaves in the states is not a burden, but Russian complexes, it is a burden. Congratulations to the Turks.
  • Cynic
    Cynic 30 December 2020 14: 54
    0
    Pure neighing from these discussions, if you do not think about the sacramental question, and for what in real life was the Russian Federation Turkey paid this amount ...
    Think)))
    PS If anything, then the C500 is on its way, hmm, or at the exit ???
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 1 January 2021 00: 09
    0
    Quote: DED_peer_DED
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Anatolia will be the site of a great ascent and the 21st century will be the century of Turkey,

    The coming years will be the end of Turkey's statehood, in principle. Turkey has no future. There are many reasons for this. It remains to wait for a good reason.

    It's funny to read such stupid conclusions.