US Navy: Destroyer John McCain challenges Vietnam's excessive claims to waters south of Ho Chi Minh City

The US military disputes Vietnam's rights to a part of the South China Sea around the resort island. Therefore, on Thursday, the US Navy destroyer "John McCain" carried out an operation in the area to ensure freedom of navigation.

The press service of the 7th fleet United States Navy.

US guided missile destroyer John McCain challenged Vietnam's "excessive claims" over the South China Sea about 150 miles south of Ho Chi Minh City, where the Con Dao archipelago is located.

It consists of 16 islands, most of which are uninhabited. The main island of the Kon Son archipelago is home to several beach resorts and fishing villages.

The ship conducted routine operations in Vietnam's declared territorial waters to challenge its excessive maritime claims and maintain access and freedom of navigation in accordance with international law.

- said in the message of the press service of the 7th Fleet of the US Navy.

Vietnam claims that its maritime domain extends to Kon Dao. But a 1983 US State Department report said the islands were "not close enough to mainland Vietnam" to be considered the baseline of its territorial waters.

As you can see, in this case, too, the United States is trying to position itself in the role of the world gendarme - and even where no one asks for "assistance" at all.

Comments

[Alexey RA]

Anticipating numerous comments about the name of EM URO - these are not the McCains you are looking for.
EM is named after the senator's grandfather and father. The first fought in WWII and WWII, the second in WWII and during the Vietnam War.

[vkl.47]

McCain's father was an admiral, so he felt fine in captivity. In the photo when he was released, he was with casts and an exhausted face. The next day he was already bawling without casts. As if there was nothing.

[Tatyana]

As you can see, in this case too The United States is trying to position itself as the world's gendarme - and even where no one asks for "assistance" at all.

Familiar position of Americans from Washington / Pentagon, especially since the advent of the UNIPOLAR world after the collapse of the USSR.

[cormorant]

Mattress toppers are up to challenge until the Vietnamese themselves invite us to Cam Ranh.

[Grits]

Quote: vkl.47

and the next day he was already bawling without casseroles, as if nothing had happened.

As if painlessly pulled the watch from a safe place

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexey RA

Anticipating numerous comments

The question is not which McCain. The question is what kind of Vietnam. Cho, have you forgotten how you fled from Saigon like rats? A generation of non-combatant generals has grown up? Do you want to wave your hands? Well, try it, wave it. Are you not enough plastics from Iraq and Libya? There are already more losses in Afghanistan than we had in 10 years. Now plastics will also come from Vietnam - and this is significant for America. Let them try Vietnam - we stock up on popcorn and don't laugh until the last batch.

[Alex777]

What plastic, from what Vietnam?
Without the USSR, no one will voluntarily trample against the United States alone.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alex777

What plastic, from what Vietnam?

I'm talking about that.

.

The generals who did not fight want - they will receive ...

[Alex777]

tlauicol (Ivan) Today, 15:07

Zoldat A lied a little. Speaking of plastic, there is no one in the coffins in the photo - this is a protest in Carolina

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alex777

tlauicol (Ivan) Today, 15:07

Zoldat A lied a little. Speaking of plastic, there is no one in the coffins in the photo - this is a protest in Carolina

Will we find fault? The first thing I found was that I poured it out. For the sake of a negative comment, did I have to dig up half of the Internet? You think too highly of the importance of your person. And they saw better, they drank vodka with the governors ...

[jovanni]

Quote: Alex777

What plastic, from what Vietnam?
Without the USSR, no one will voluntarily trample against the United States alone

And Vietnam is not the same. They almost forgot about the USSR, and about help, respectively. Like everything by yourself ...

[Alex777]

Vietnam and Cuba are not the same. We missed them ourselves.
They say that one cannot enter the same water twice.
But the States can still get everyone and help us.

[Grits]

Quote: Alex777

What plastic, from what Vietnam?
Without the USSR, no one will voluntarily trample against the United States alone

Plus, China will only fuel the desire of the United States to attack and will clearly not be on the side of Vietnam.

[Alex777]

Yes. China is no longer an assistant to Vietnam.
Previously, all aid to the USSR went through him.

[Evil Booth]

the slides are of high quality, and not aka Putin knocks down a Boeing Iranian missile strike. The footage shows that several objects on the territory of the base have been destroyed.
then 60 wounded were recognized on the footage of more than visible demolished buildings with an MTO a few meters from the aircraft.

[tlauicol]

In Afghanistan and Africa, less than 2500 Americans died in the 21st century

[kot423]

Quote: Tlauicol

less than 2500 Americans in 21th century

And they started "carrying crap" at 21? You count from the moment of their 1st attempt, and it's not a fact that of. mattress statistics reflect reality.

[tlauicol]

Well, you can count from the 18th century, divide by time and find out that the losses are minimal, and Zoldat A lied a little. Speaking of plastic, there is no one in the coffins in the photo - this is a protest in Carolina

[Cyril G ...]

There were definitely no different Blackwaters.

[poquello]

Quote: Tlauicol

In Afghanistan and Africa, less than 2500 Americans died in the 21st century

what

US military casualties are estimated at more than 2400 dead and 20 wounded by mid-000. This does not take into account the losses of private military companies, among whose fighters there were also many American citizens. The IRGC of Iran announced the number of 2019 dead American soldiers, noting that the official data did not include US military personnel with foreign citizenship, which are not so few.

https://topwar.ru/170956-bolshie-poteri-i-gromkie-porazhenija-ssha-v-afganistane.html

[Evil Booth]

in a battle on a building with citizenship, but half of those campaigners did not have citizenship))) and not in a battle on the back but on a mine? and PMC?

[tlauicol]

including mine explosions and IEDs, of course. This is the main reason for losses. Are you now trying to confirm Zoldat's words that their losses are already higher than Soviet ones? Well, press with arguments, not fairy tales

[Evil Booth]

wai wai! the morning forest began with fog)) do you still have a link to quint at least and what they consider to be a loss of current with civilization and half of the warriors do not have it? zamaetes)) the whole world fiercely hates those who arranged the Maidans and bombed them, and the presidents were killed by sanctions and so on, all sorts of things there))

[Igor Kobernik]

Sometimes it's better to remain silent .... This is -You ... What does the 21st century have to do with it? The Americans have been sitting there since the 90s of the last century ... And the total losses are much higher ...

[tlauicol]

Quote: Igor Kobernik

Sometimes it's better to remain silent .... This is -You ... What does the 21st century have to do with it? The Americans have been sitting there since the 90s of the last century ... And the total losses are much higher ...

much higher than what? do you agree with ZoldatA? so he just lied on the blue eye.

[credo]

Quote: Alexey RA

Anticipating numerous comments about the name of EM URO - these are not the McCains you are looking for.
EM is named after the senator's grandfather and father. The first fought in WWII and WWII, the second in WWII and during the Vietnam War.

And what, this somehow justifies the gendarme manners of the United States?
It is common knowledge to all sane people that no one authorized the United States to intervene in the resolution of interstate disputes far from their shores.
So yankee go home.

[halpat]

Shaw ?? right in the Gulf of Tonkin ?? Again?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Alexey RA

these are not the McCains

Yes, they are all smeared with one world! Type-heads! This USS John S. McCain DDG-56 at first tried to show off with us, but quickly retreated when Vinogradov moved on to him. Then the Chinese shooed him out of their waters. Now they decided to show off in front of the Vietnamese.

[Captan78]

But apparently, these territories are very close to the states .... Fabulous ..... why were they only released from the hospital?

[Serpet]

Quote: Captan78

these territories are very close to the states

Vietnam is already close to the United States. Just like Russia to NATO ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Serpet

Vietnam is already close to the United States. Just like Russia to NATO ...

Well, if they wanted to send the 2nd American Fleet to the shores of Belarus, then Vietnam too, is next to the states.

[URAL72]

Can they build 6 more submarines of pr. 636.3? Su-30mkv already exists, it's time to sell 2-3 Su-35 regiments. The money is there. And necessarily an echeloned air defense system.

[Evil Booth]

or one hundred zirconia at half price

[Eldorado]

Never mind, Vietnamese corvettes of our construction and "Varshavyanka" will heal every McCain's head!

[DIM (a)]

Aha! California's borders stretch to the coast of Vietnam! )

[falx]

they care about everything. recently in the Gulf of Peter the Great something was disputed ...

[Sergey-8848]

EM "McCain" is not the first time acting in the old cavalry traditions - galloped, shit and galloped away. The task of the press services is to clothe the atrocities of the US Navy in a fine form so that many are led to songs about democracy, freedom of navigation and other blizzards thousands of miles from the Americas

[Wedmak]

The impression is that this ship is specially sent to run up and arrange provocations.
Additional operations .. one day you can accidentally stumble upon a World War II mine ...

[Orange bigg]

Possibly. By the way, in Vietnam, our X-35 anti-ship missiles are produced under license, but there is some other Vietnamese name. I don't remember now. But I don’t think it will come to application. The Americans will bother a little and calm down. They act like street gopniks. And in fact, already with everyone who comes to hand. Uncle Sam's roof has gone completely.

[Grits]

Quote: Wedmak

It seems that this ship is specially sent to run up and arrange provocations

However, no matter how offensive it may be, one must admit that this ship really manages to go everywhere. And in the Sea of ​​Japan and in the South China and in the Mediterranean and in the Black. Our ships never dreamed of such agility.

[Gennady Fomkin]

operation to ensure freedom of navigation Somali pirates showed up?

[rocket757]

What is that?
No Vasya with anyone except subordinates?

[cniza]

This is ostentatious bravado and it will not bring to good ...

[rocket757]

They walk back and forth, exchanging notes-concerns.
Business then.

[cniza]

No, the United States arranges provocations ... they need tension in this region ...

[rocket757]

Yes there and so there is no peace for a long time and thoroughly.
Everyone is trying to hold back, not to go over the edge.

[cniza]

So the United States is stirring up there, then against China, then Vietnam ...

[rocket757]

For minke whales, this is "normal" ... and the locals are not very friendly anyway, they cannot divide the islands.

[cniza]

Yes, there, in my opinion, Japan and Taiwan are still claiming, the knot is still the same ...

[rocket757]

Well, yes, warm lands are in a hurry to turn into hot ones ...

[cniza]

This is exactly what the United States is trying to achieve, they need local conflicts ...

[rocket757]

Striped arsonists are famous, worthy disciples of the arrogant from the islands.

[cniza]

This is their business, they make good money on it ...

[rocket757]

"firemen" are much, much harder.

[Orkraider]

Interesting))
And I don’t remember that the Con Dao archipelago was disputed in Vietnam, it seems that it is not included in the disputed zone:

disputed territories in the East China and South China Seas. Several states claim to separate groups of islands. Thus, China and Vietnam dispute the ownership of the Paracel Islands; the Spratly archipelago - Vietnam, China, Malaysia, the Philippines and Brunei; Scarborough Reef - Philippines and China.

Maybe that's why the Americans intervene because they liked the island from a historical point of view:

The main (and only inhabited) island of Konson was once a French prison for Vietnamese members of the independence movement.

[Evil 55]

"Daddy" carried out another "operation to ensure freedom of navigation" .. I am sure that during this action the Moremans are serving in diapers, life jackets and with rations in the bite with a whistle in the mouth ... Just in case ... For they are still alive among the people, the circumstances of the "Tonkin incident".

[cniza]

The US military disputes Vietnam's rights to a part of the South China Sea around the resort island. Therefore, on Thursday, the US Navy destroyer "John McCain" carried out an operation in the area to ensure freedom of navigation.

Here it is, everyone begs ...

[Guru]

Slap Vietnam, I wonder what this is?

[the most important]

Quote: Guru

Slap Vietnam, I wonder what this is?

This is Trump's hi to Biden. Biden doesn’t run across countries solving conflicts. It's good for us too. Vietnam's memory was refreshed.

[Grits]

Quote: the most important

It's good for us too. Vietnam's memory was refreshed.

well yes. And then something that recently he too zealously began to flirt with his former enemies and occupiers

[Boa kaa]

It seems to me that the Yankees got very excited. For there is a regime of free passage for ANY ships and peaceful passage of warships. And all this is from the 1982 Geneva Conference.

During the straight archipelagic lines additional geographic conditions must be met:
- the baselines should include major islands and an area in which the ratio of water surface area to land area, including atolls, is between 1: 1 and 9: 1;
- the length of the baselines must not exceed 100 nautical miles, except that up to 3% of the total number of baselines enclosing any archipelago, can be up to 125 nautical miles long.
Waters within straight archipelagic baselines are considered archipelagic waters. Ships of all countries enjoy the right of innocent passage through these waters. However, archipelagic states may establish sea and air lanes with a special archipelagic passage regime provided for in Article 53 of the 1982 Convention.

[Wedmak]

They didn't get excited rather, but showed their "coolness" and once again showed off their "operation". In my opinion, they no longer know where to put their hundreds of ships, where to attach them. For their direct use, there is not much where to use them without big problems and a little shame, so they roam the oceans, "operations" are carried out ...

[Crimean partisan 1974]

The US military disputes the rights of Vietnam to a part of the South China Sea around the resort island. .... great ... why did not (McCain) look into the Spratly archipelago ... see glasses

[Alien From]

Ponty next from the mattresses, not interesting.

[faterdom]

Are there not many Pedrov in Brazil? Are there few McCains in Vietnam?

[Dmitry Makarov]

The Vietnamese had already shot down one McCain with a Soviet missile, now another one has appeared.

[APASUS]

In Vietnam, gritting their teeth, they do business with the United States, they just understand that it is impossible without them! And then there is such an incident, with a violation of the border. Why is it to the Americans? Check for answer

[outsider]

Quote: kot423

Quote: Tlauicol

less than 2500 Americans in 21th century

And they started "carrying crap" at 21? You count from the moment of their 1st attempt, and it's not a fact that of. mattress statistics reflect reality.

- Democracy was carried to Afghanistan by Soviet servicemen at the behest of Lenka Brezhnev ...

[Cyril G ...]

Michael, you are in a puddle as usual. Democracy in our country is carried by the Omerigans, with bombs, napalm and chemistry. And in terms of civilian little people tortured, beaten and crippled after the Second World War, we definitely cannot compare with them. They are ahead of the rest of the world in killing a peaceful man.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Wedmak

showed their "coolness" and once again showed off their "operation".

Probably just showing their "determination" to defend the "freedom" of navigation, on which no one encroached. It could be a hint to whales, as well as training around the Paracel Islands. But there are whales ... and they will not be silent ... Besides, they have something to oppose to "lonely McCain" ...
The "wild carousel" might be spinning soon.
IMHO.

[Cat]

Yeah, now, according to the laws of the genre and the cyclical nature of history, Vietnamese torpedo boats should appear somewhere nearby. Or missile. Who will cynically humiliate the American destroyer. About the Tonkin incident - no, not heard.

[Ryaruav]

Sergei they don't have enough money for the next Tonkin incident

[tralflot1832]

You can run into "your" mine, they once seeded the sea around Vietnam very densely in order to annoy our steamers.

[tralflot1832]

How strange the United States behaves. Yes, we and I. For freedom of navigation. Yes, you go with your freedom of navigation! Who has not sent them already. Masochists. Maybe they like it?

[Pereira]

Has he filed a lawsuit?

[Ryaruav]

it's easy for the Americans, it's not about butting with the Chinese Navy

[Ros 56]

Do the striped ones want to go in the second circle, did they really not have enough luli in the sixties?

[Yaro Polk]

Do these star-striped Amerzes, in general, have such a human feeling, like CONSCIENCE, or is it completely absent from their birth?

[Jacket in stock]

And Vietnam is for sho?
They are friends now, the Americans even give them their ships, which they fired at them not so long ago.
And the Vietnamese themselves remember with greater pleasure about all kinds of Rimbaud than about the pilot "Li-si-tsyn".
And here such a slap in the face ?!
Why, what did they want?

[eklmn]

“As you can see, in this case, too, the United States is trying to position itself in the role of the world gendarme - and even where no one asks for“ assistance ”at all.”
Now what's in the press release:
https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/Article/2454462/uss-john-s-mccain-conducts-freedom-of-navigation-operation-in-south-china-sea/
“The United States disputes excessive maritime claims worldwide, regardless of the identity of the claimant. International maritime law, reflected in the 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea, provides certain rights and freedoms, as well as other legal uses of the sea, for all countries. No member of the international community should be intimidated or coerced into giving up their rights and freedoms. ”
“China, Vietnam, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines all claim sovereignty over some or all of the Spratly Islands. China, Vietnam and Taiwan require either a permit or prior notification before a foreign warship makes "innocent passage" through the territorial sea. According to international law, as reflected in the Convention on the Law of the Sea, ships of all states, including their warships, enjoy the right of innocent passage through the territorial sea. The unilateral imposition of any permission or prior notification requirements for innocent passage is not permitted under international law, therefore, the United States contested these claims. ”

In general, the Editorial Board should remember Lenin's behest, who said:
"Learn English - the source of knowledge." And after a pause, he added: "And money too." In the context of the press release, it is clearly stated, why the Americans entered these waters - to prove the freedom of navigation.
Russia does not have the funds for the passage of the fleet in permitted waters, not to mention the passage in the disputed seas. Besides, butting with China, Vietnam, the Philippines - for what? Here Russia does not pry there - it is great, but it is not going to tease its druzhbanov, tk. itself declares part of the neutral waters its territory. Spit, so to speak, on the rules when it is profitable ...

[d4rkmesa]

"According to international law, reflected in the Convention on the Law of the Sea" - the one that they don't sign? No, their position, as in every barrel of the plug, is understandable. But this does not mean that everyone should approve of such missions, on the contrary. The more states suppress such American idiot missions, the sooner the Americans themselves will eventually abandon them.

[Arthur 85]

Was he caught from the lake and put in a hole? Otherwise, do not rub ... But seriously: you Americans will overstrain the whole world to control. You have neither mind nor imagination for that. There may have been a hundred years ago, but those days are over.

[Arthur 85]

By the way, did these ukakalschikov adopt the name Ho Chi Minh on their maps? Ltd...

[Arctic]

They haven't driven out mattresses yet :)

[Anachoret]

Anything called "McCain" is always aiming for Vietnamese cesspools.

After all, the story about his father's gold watch from "Pulp Fiction" is clearly from there)

[d4rkmesa]

Another mission of "American idiot".

[outsider]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Michael, you are in a puddle as usual. Democracy in our country is carried by the Omerigans, with bombs, napalm and chemistry. And in terms of civilian little people tortured, beaten and crippled after the Second World War, we definitely cannot compare with them. They are ahead of the rest of the world in killing a peaceful man.

- In Afghanistan, out of 20 million inhabitants of that time, Soviet soldiers killed ~ 1 million people, crippled ~ 3.5 million. And for about the same time, the Americans in Vietnam have very similar numbers of civilians killed and wounded! You just don't know.
You can also clarify how many humane Russian troops killed people in Chechnya (just don't think that I "love" Chechens very much ...) - according to various sources, from 60 thousand (minimum) to 120 thousand (maximum).

[outsider]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Michael, you are in a puddle as usual. Democracy in our country is carried by the Omerigans, with bombs, napalm and chemistry. And in terms of civilian little people tortured, beaten and crippled after the Second World War, we definitely cannot compare with them. They are ahead of the rest of the world in killing a peaceful man.

Here is just an approximate parity: the Americans killed about 1 million people in Vietnam - and Soviet soldiers killed ~ 1 million people in Afghanistan, and made 3.5 crippled - out of 20 million who lived there at the beginning of 1980 ...