Polish special services tried to recruit Belarusian diplomat

Polish special services tried to recruit a Belarusian diplomat from the diplomatic mission in Warsaw. This is reported by the Belarusian media.

According to the Belarus 1 TV channel, Polish counterintelligence attempted to recruit an assistant to the military attaché of Belarus from the diplomatic mission in Warsaw. Throughout November-December, various recruitment methods were used against him, but all attempts by the Poles failed.

In November-December, the military counterintelligence officers, using blackmail, bribery and threats, tried to persuade the assistant military attache to betray, they promised full board: money, real estate, a new life in one of the EU countries. The diplomat did not flinch and received an ultimatum: to leave the diplomatic mission in Warsaw

- said on TV.

In addition to the diplomat, a recruitment attempt was made against a career officer of the Belarusian army who was taking language courses in Warsaw. He was offered a choice - to become an informant or, in case of refusal, to forget about visas to the European Union forever. The officer reported recruiting attempts to command.

(...) the secret service offered a choice - to become an informant or to forget about visits to the EU for a long time. Like, the power will collapse soon, think about the future. The officer thought and reported about the recruitment attempts in Minsk

- write the media.

It is noted that Warsaw admitted both facts, but tried to hush up the scandal, but the Belarusian Foreign Ministry took "necessary measures", no details were given.

Comments

[faiver]

People work, what can you say, I'm glad for the staunch Belarusians ...

[Sofa expert]

We would have such a government ... And so some traitors are on traitors, and they are driven by traitors ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sofa Expert

And so some traitors are on traitors, and they are driven by traitors ...

And there is nothing to argue ... Since 1985 ....

[Labrador]

Do you want to say that they (the traitors) all came there from the very day?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Labrador

Do you want to say that they (the traitors) all came there from the very day?

I will say one word in response - all over Russia this is the name of red dogs - "Chubais". Or else to remember Gaidarushka the bad guy?

[halpat]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Labrador

Do you want to say that they (the traitors) all came there from the very day?

I will say one word in response - all over Russia this is the name of red dogs - "Chubais". Or else to remember Gaidarushka the bad guy?

Not ... well, if at the present time the main face of the advertising company of the largest bank of the Russian Federation is becoming a recidivist thief Georges Miloslavsky from the famous comedy, then what else can we talk about?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Halpat

Not ... well, if the main face of the advertising company of the largest bank of the Russian Federation becomes the thief-recidivist Georges Miloslavsky from the famous comedy film, then what else can we talk about?

What kind of life - such and advertising ...... Although, in principle, I do not understand advertisers. If people watch, for example, a movie and ads are cut. Someone went for tea, someone spits, someone switches. Everyone hates ads, advertisers know about it, but, nevertheless, the billion-dollar business is exciting. Amazing ....

[Alexey Polyutkin]

No wonder. Advertising works. Something bad, some good, but it works. Apparently, you have never been involved in business and do not understand that you can sell at least the cheapest and the best product in the world, but you will not sell anything if the potential buyer does not know about you.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexey Polyutkin

Apparently, you have never done business and do not understand that you can sell at least the cheapest and the best product in the world.

I, just in case, have been in the construction business for 25 years, which was organized by my father, and I did not immediately become the general director - 25 years ago I started as a foreman, after graduating from a construction institute. Only I have a creative business, I am building, and all my almost three hundred employees will confirm this. And you are not talking about a business, but about a business, buy and resell. And this you want to teach me ???? I DO, I build, after my work, not g ***, but houses on the ground remain, and you are driving me for business huckster buy and resell ???And after the huckster, what remains? One G ***** .......

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexey Polyutkin

BARYGA !!!))))) OPERATOR 300 souls! ))))))

And you ask three hundred souls - who am I to them? And anyone, I am sure, will tell you that I am a director who lives at work 20 hours a day, who provides them all with a salary, a New Year bonus, gifts for children, and builds two churches (although he himself does not believe in God). The exploiter is the one who draws the last juice from people. And my father built his business in such a way (and I continue) that if you treat a person like a human being, he will repay you in kind. It was necessary - at my request, the men, the brigade, plowed for 46 hours without smoke breaks. And I was there. And then they fell asleep together in the editing booth. The only difference between me and them is that they think with one object, while I have a couple of dozen of them. And am I an exploiter? Come to me at any object - for such words addressed to me the men will beat your face ...

[Alexey Polyutkin]

You look like a boxer who promised to fill his face for Tereshkova))) When she was stuck for a proposal to reset the sun))))
I see you are no longer nervous? Then I apologize for the hard-hitting epitites.
And I would skate to the object to you if it is not in Magadan))))

[Military77]

the main person of the advertising company of the largest bank of the Russian Federation becomes the recidivist thief Georges Miloslavsky from the famous comedy film

Known to the 35+ generation, and this advertising of the ecosystem is designed mainly for young people who look at Kuravlev in bewilderment, absolutely "not getting into" the topic)))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Military77

young people who look at Kuravlev in bewilderment, absolutely "not getting into" the topic

I have a feeling that young people "minus 35" do not get it at all. Nightclubs, cocktails, glamor ..... They don't know who Stalingrad is, even Pearl Harbor doesn't know. America has achieved its goal - raised in Russia a generation of "Ivanov, who do not remember kinship."

I am proud that my son is in Ryazan, that at least someone will defend Russia, and I am glad that he is not the only one there. In Ryazan "by pull" does not happen. They either bring them by the hand, as I do mine, or they themselves come to their liking.

[2 Level Advisor]

Igor, well, not everything is so bad, although of course there are more ignorant people than 15 years ago ... My son at 12 knows about Stalingrad, Pearl Harbor, and Barbarossa ... and even about the Finnish war ..
And Georges, of course, is not clear how to use it in this ad - for the elders he is a thief, and the younger ones do not even know who it is .. who is it for? I am an artist, do I see that?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

who is it for? I am an artist, do I see that?

As the Great Faina Ranevskaya said: "Go ***** on the lawn is just go ****** on the lawn. And nothing else." (in brackets - bastard according to Ranevskaya and I remember her statements by heart - "I don't like little men - their heads are close to f ***, g *** interferes with thinking")

I myself studied for 4 years at an art school and we had a girl-daughter of a huckster, "by pull." She did all sorts of nonsense, but she always had an iron excuse: "I am an artist, as I see it." Any nonsense and mediocrity can be justified by this.

And mine once at 12-13 asked - "Why do they say one thing at school in history classes, but you and your grandfather say something else. Who should you listen to?" I said that me and my grandfather. Therefore, the son is now in Ryazan, and not a manager at Ashan.

[Alexey Polyutkin]

The older generation also spoke about your generation. And to protect? Whom? Putin? Rotenberg? Medvedev? Rogozin? Maybe Vasiliev? Only their relatives and friends, and for this it is not necessary to die in Syria or in the Donbas for someone's aligarchic interests or geopolitical wishes. Here in Donbas, personally, many of my colleagues died from MosVoku. Familiar acquaintances, etc. some heroes of Russia. Question: why? Now there is no social justice in Donbas. The grandmothers survive among the youth; the prospect of working at the mine for a penny for the glory of the Donbass oligarchs. All! Have ate. See how Putin rules you through patriotism. Everywhere there are patriotic events, objects, etc. Another part of the population in churches and mosques to pray for Putin. And where is social security and social justice? That's right with the Rotenbergs in offshore accounts and with Vasilyeva in a 7-room apartment. And Rogozin in the salary and Medvednva in Miratorg, etc.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexey Polyutkin

The older generation also spoke about your generation. And to protect? Whom? Putin? Rotenberg? Medvedev? Rogozin? Maybe Vasiliev? Only their relatives and friends, and for this it is not necessary to die in Syria or in the Donbas for someone's aligarchic interests or geopolitical wishes. Here in Donbas, personally, many of my colleagues died from MosVoku. Familiar acquaintances, etc. some heroes of Russia. Question: why? Now there is no social justice in Donbas. The grandmothers survive among the youth; the prospect of working at the mine for a penny for the glory of the Donbass oligarchs. All! Have ate. See how Putin rules you through patriotism. Everywhere there are patriotic events, objects, etc. Another part of the population in churches and mosques to pray for Putin. And where is social security and social justice? That's right with the Rotenbergs in offshore accounts and with Vasilyeva in a 7-room apartment. And Rogozin in the salary and Medvednva in Miratorg, etc.

I fought myself, my father fought on three continents. I will say one thing - when a soldier asks the question: "Why am I fighting?", he stops fighting. He stops being a soldier. Therefore, both me and my father, who was wandering across three continents, have the same answer, the one that the political commander voiced at political studies - "We are fulfilling our international duty." And I don't even want to think about who and what I owe. I won an order and two medals, if cho. My father's jacket is not lifting. So I am oak - Motherland said "Fas!" - I bite. Because I am a Russian Soldier. How my father taught.

[Cananecat]

Thief-recidivist Georges Miloslavsky becomes the main face of the advertising company of the largest bank of the Russian Federation

And the fact that L. Kuravlev played it is normal? Let us also blame Kuravlev ... what then shall we rest against?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Canecat

And the fact that L. Kuravlev played it is normal? Let us also blame Kuravlev ... what then shall we rest against?

The actor is great, like everyone who played in that film. And the film is a great great director. I didn’t start and I shouldn’t have any complaints about great artists.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Sofa Expert

And so some traitors are on traitors, and they are driven by traitors ...

And there is nothing to argue ... Since 1985 ....

As many as 8 dissenting ones. You, 8 people, are young people who did not live in the Soviet Union. You cannot understand when servicemen were respected, people were given apartments for free (in which, as parents, you now live). Bark, I don't care ....

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexey Polyutkin

"Ocean" (under the union it was exclusive in terms of the range of fish) and there is a saleswoman in each department, but in each department from the range only canned seaweed stands in pyramids.

And I remember fresh fish swimming in the pool. Even a sterlet. Although I drank 2 glasses of juice (wild rose and wild pear) in the "Ocean" after training and bought fish sticks for lunch in a blue cardboard box - I poured chicken eggs. And the pyramids of seaweed are from the 90s ...

I didn't know to myself that I was SO old ... Thank you, Alexey, you reminded me ...

[neri73-r]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And there is nothing to argue ... Since 1985 ...

Probably since 1953!

[LifeIsGood]

Yeah, of course, everything is straight and close ...
Everyone was sold, everyone was betrayed ... For some reason, they are not in a hurry to give Crimea away, they don’t run to Kiev to confess, don’t kiss Khodorkovsky in a soft spot and don’t race to pay 54 lard of greens in the Yukos case. Solid traitors !!! ...

[Machito]

Poland has consistently demonstrated a hostile policy towards Belarus. However, why did the Belarusian officer study Polish in Poland? Wanted to acquire an enemy accent?

[APASUS]

In November-December, the military counterintelligence officers, using blackmail, bribery and threats, tried to persuade the assistant military attaché to betray, they promised full board: money, real estate, a new life in one of the EU countries.

I wonder why they didn’t promise a European pension, euro medicine, euro democracy for him or know that these are common tricks for suckers?

[Uncle lee]

promised full board: money, real estate, new life

I wonder what was promised to Tikhanovskaya?

[Azimuth]

Have become stingy. Al everyone is offered that the budget does not pull? Counterintelligence apparently clearly explains that the tower shines for treason.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: APASUS

I wonder why they did not promise a European pension, euro medicine, euro democracy for him, or know that these are common tricks for suckers ?

One fix - for EUROloch... And then it is politically incorrect somehow ...

[Vladimir_2U]

In addition to the diplomat, a recruitment attempt was made against a career officer of the Belarusian army who was taking language courses in Warsaw.

Now I do not understand, for a career officer to take some language courses in the country, not just a potential enemy, but an outright enemy? Is this a joint program with "partners"?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Now I don't understand, should a career officer take some language courses in a country not just a potential enemy, but an outright enemy?

My father spoke five languages, including German. He began to study it in high school, finished his studies in "united" Germany. So Stirlitz spoke German a little worse than my father. I am not Stirlitz, I speak English-Oxford, which is far from being spoken. But I saw how my father in Egypt spoke Arabic with churkamans - impressed. I have not been to Vietnam or Nicaragua, but I think my father spoke freely there too.Father, by the way, is not a translator. There was a combat instructor.What is done by hands.

[Vladimir_2U]

I am happy for your father and for you, but which of the listed countries, at the state level, was comparable to Poland in its hostility towards Belarus as a state?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

I am happy for your father and for you, but which of the listed countries, at the state level, was comparable to Poland in its hostility towards Belarus as a state?

Then it was not, now it is. If the father were alive, the country would have fewer problems. In Nicaragua and Honduras, he knew how to do it. In the meantime, we have what we have. Two dozen people like my father - and Europe would want to enter Russia. He killed with his bare hands in one and a half seconds.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

did not understand, a career officer to take some language courses in the country not just a potential enemy, but an outright enemy? Is this a joint program with "partners"?

I didn't understand either: the officer was sent for long-term training in the enemy's country, and the program itself says - a trap ... who in Poland can teach the language to RB officers? some kind of parallel reality

[alexmach]

who in Poland can teach the language to officers of the Republic of Belarus?

m ... Poles for example? By the way, they didn't even say what language they were talking about.

[Pete mitchell]

We can rephrase the question: who can supervise the teaching of the language to the officers of the Republic of Belarus in Poland? Who are the mentors of these groups?
Colleague

Quote: ccsr

This is apparently a "dad" so advanced ....

I seem to have painted everything quite simply

[ccsr]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Now I do not understand, for a career officer to take some language courses in the country, not just a potential enemy, but an outright enemy? Is this a joint program with "partners"?

Apparently, the "dad" wanted to appear so advanced to the West, but in fact this is sheer stupidity, because it is obvious that these officers will become targets of recruitment. The same thing happened in Ukraine, when Ukrainian officers were taken to the States for different one-year courses in order to be specially recruited. Those who refused were immediately expelled under various pretexts. This is how the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Gritsenko was recruited, who from the post of a teacher at the school suddenly made a career advancement to the highest post in the Ministry of Defense.
Moreover, some of these recruits then acted purposefully on Russian-language forums, as did a certain "Cap" from Sevastopol at the "Aviation Base" forum, which had a whole team, judging by the fact that they managed to post almost 20 posts every day on this site.
So the work of the Polish special services is understandable - everyone is doing this, and it's good that these Belarusians turned out to be persistent. But someone did not turn out to be like that, but the "father" can find out about it when it will be too late. It is not even clear why he did this, taking into account the fact that many ethnic Poles live in Belarus, and the problem of the trip of operational officers under the guise of commercial activity is not a problem.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: ccsr

in fact, this is sheer nonsense, because it is obvious that these officers will be recruited. The same thing happened in Ukraine, when Ukrainian officers were taken to the States for different one-year courses in order to specifically recruit

I would take the situation a little more broadly: the bourgeois and the Americans are the most active in organizing programs for foreign representatives, military and civilians, who are involved in something incomprehensible. "Unpromising" then accidentally change their jobs, away from government agencies

[Andryukha G]

Apparently, the respected military schools and academies did not graduate and is not aware that in every such institution (and even in the rear) they study not Old Slavonic, but the languages ​​of potential opponents, including the topic of interrogation of prisoners of war. Therefore, the fact that the Belarusian studied Polish is nothing reprehensible.

[Pete mitchell]

Forgive me in which schools this was taught? Just wondering. They certainly did not teach us, although I didn’t go to the injections either - they immediately put the exam in two years and said goodbye. My brother wasn't taught interrogation either, sailor.
The fact that the Belarusian studied Polish is nothing wrong, of course, only strange, especially if you look around carefully

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Andryukha G

Therefore, the fact that the Belarusian studied Polish is nothing reprehensible.

It is wonderful that he studied, it is not clear why he studied on courses with a potential enemy, on the territory of a potential enemy, being in a LEGAL position.

Quote: Andryukha G

Apparently respected military schools and academies did not graduate

And which school / academy did you graduate from? Where is logic so sucks taught?

[u-345]

Poles itch to do everything

[rocket757]

"normal" spy games .... nothing new.

[cniza]

But why shout about it? ...

[rocket757]

Again, anti spy games ....
Now so, the times of complete fog, cloak and dagger have sunk into oblivion !!! Now a show that goes on without end.

[cniza]

Usually, the services agree without taking them out to large circles, and then they decided to shine ...

[rocket757]

Yes, someone sold the Old to journalists and all businesses.
Then, daddy has a special friendship from the neighbors, now, he can't wait ... he could trumpet himself, business then.

[cniza]

Yes, what kind of friendship is there, no matter how they grabbed the throat, and the investigation is probably underway, as infa left.

[rocket757]

Once they swear, then they will send a couple of objects back and forth.
Standard.

[gridasov]

This is wonderful! I should have taken the opportunity

[Cron]

The secret service offered a choice - to become an informant or to forget about visits to the EU for a long time. Like, the power will collapse soon, think about the future. Oval thought and asked for additional sanctions against Russia

[cniza]

It is noted that Warsaw admitted both facts, but tried to hush up the scandal, but the Belarusian Foreign Ministry took "necessary measures", no details were given.

Usually such things are not brought up for wide discussion, which means that something went wrong ...

[rocket757]

Journalists will find out everything, because everything is for sale.
Business, nothing more.

[cniza]

So there was a puncture in the special. service, once sold to journalists ...

[rocket757]

"Big brother" generally suits the universal show for any reason, so the little ones decided to keep up.
A bad thing is contagious.

[cniza]

Anything can be, if it is not just a special stuffing, to suppress Polish active actions ...

[rocket757]

Well, they are so varied spy games.

[Lord of the Sith]

The Pszhepospolites were stunned with happiness. Do you think you are James Bond?

[dedBoroded]

I wonder if they really think that the opportunity to come to Europe and be their guest is a great happiness and mercy? The gentlemen played a lot in their uniqueness. For a decent person, this proposal is at the level of Glass beads with mirrors

[Asad]

That's why they are special services!

[Old26]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I have a feeling that young people "minus 35" do not get it at all. Nightclubs, cocktails, glamor ..... They don't know who Stalingrad is, even Pearl Harbor doesn't know. America has achieved its goal - raised in Russia a generation of "Ivanov, who do not remember kinship."

I am proud that my son is in Ryazan, that at least someone will defend Russia, and I am glad that he is not the only one there. In Ryazan "by pull" does not happen. They either bring them by the hand, as I do mine, or they themselves come to their liking.

So you, Igor, have double standards? Your worthy son, he will defend his homeland, and all the other victims of the exam do not know anything and their main occupation is glamor, nightclubs and cocktails .. You should not measure everyone with one yardstick. In 95% of the population, children do not go to nightclubs, do not try on "glamor". And honestly, like their parents work. True, who is lucky where, but this is the third case

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Igor, well, not everything is so bad, although of course there are more ignorant people than 15 years ago ... My son at 12 knows about Stalingrad, Pearl Harbor, and Barbarossa ... and even about the Finnish war ..

My daughter, twice your son's age, may not know what the boys know about the war, but he knows the history of his country and the key events of the war. Moreover, her grandfather is a war veteran. Together with him this year was at the Victory Parade on Lenin Square (as an accompanying person)

Quote: Zoldat_A

people were given apartments for free

Uh-huh. However, do not forget to say that sometimes you had to stand in line for an apartment for 10-15 years. It all depended on where you worked. The military, yes, they received service housing immediately. Civilians - as luck would have it. Some lived in hostels for 10-12 years to get an apartment ...

Quote: Zoldat_A

And I remember fresh fish swimming in the pool. Even a sterlet. Although I drank 2 glasses of juice (wild rose and wild pear) in the "Ocean" after training and bought fish sticks for lunch in a blue cardboard box - I poured chicken eggs. And the pyramids of seaweed are from the 90s ...

Everywhere it was different. Everything depended on the city. In one city in the 80s in the "Ocean" there was only pollock roe, seaweed and canned scallop "I even remember what these canned food was called -" Cucumaria ", which we called" Kuku Maria ", and in others - sandwiches with red fish, black and red caviar. What are crab sticks - they did not even hear. And in the 60s in our city yes, in the store (though it was then not called "Ocean", but just a fish was in the center of the hall with a large In the "ocean" this was not the case, not in the 70s, not in the 80s, not in the 90s.

Quote: Bearded

Poland has consistently demonstrated a hostile policy towards Belarus. However, why did the Belarusian officer study Polish in Poland? Wanted to acquire an enemy accent?

And the language is best learned among native speakers. And an employee of the military attache is always a legal intelligence officer. So you need a language, so that maybe later, somewhere to pass for a Pole

Quote: Pete Mitchell

I didn't understand either: the officer was sent for long-term training in the enemy's country, and the program itself says - a trap ... who in Poland can teach the language to officers of the Republic of Belarus? some kind of parallel reality

Why parallel reality. He was also an assistant military attaché in the same Poland. Learning the language of the host country rather than in your own courses can be a far-reaching topic. And I think that he learned this language from the Poles with the permission of the respective leaders.

By the way, in the 70s, Komsomolskaya Pravda published chapters from a book about our intelligence officer, Konon Molodoy. So there, there is such a "plot". He is offered under the guise of a Canadian businessman to enroll in Chinese language courses (the event takes place in London). Moreover, the leadership implies that the majority there are employees of the special services of various countries. And I had to go to such courses. There is another interesting phrase there:
“Once H.H. came up to me, my 'colleague-businessman' on these courses from Texas and said in a whisper:“ You know, Gordon, that apart from you and me there are all scouts from different countries. ”But I could not say then, what he was wrong about. "

So it is here. The root cause of why he took these language courses is unknown.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Old26

he was also an assistant military attaché in the same Poland. Learn the language of the host country, not in your courses -

You cannot deny logic, but we are talking about RB and RP: I think a lot of native speakers in western Belarus.

Quote: Old26

he studied this language from the Poles with the permission of the respective leaders

, I once took part in international exercises with representatives of the Republic of Belarus - with foreign ones they were very sad. Of course, with permission, he ended up there.

Quote: Old26

The root cause of why he went to these language courses is unknown.

Again, colleague

Quote: ccsr

Apparently, the "dad" wanted to appear so advanced to the West ...

just painted everything

[Old26]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

You cannot deny logic, but we are talking about RB and RP: I think a lot of native speakers in western Belarus.

A lot, but as always and everywhere, in some ways, in some details, the language will be different. This is the same as ours. Take, for example, the Rostov region, the Stavropol and Krasnodar regions. It seems that the dialect is close, and sometimes the words are different. For example: I lived in the Rostov region. I am telling at home (my father was then serving in the Poltava region) about student life. I say that during the break between classes you will take a bottle of milk and a bun from your throat and drink it ...
People have eyes for 7 kopecks and a question, what does "out of the throat" mean. So it is here. Something different, probably in the language.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Old26

A lot, but as always and everywhere, in some ways, in some details, the language will be different

And again I agree, but we are not talking about deep penetration into an alien language group, but into the Polish environment, which is a Slavic group, a Western one. I bet he took English courses, and whoever taught them, the Anglo-Saxon children were mentors. We can discuss the differences in annunciation separately.
PS Linguistic anecdote: - Darling, why do you have a black eye?
- I was waiting for the bus, and the military was talking there. One says: we had one x..myr in our company.
- And I say: speaks correctly out of company, in the mouth...
Again, my colleague painted everything beautifully

Quote: ccsr

Apparently, the "dad" wanted to appear so advanced to the West ..

[TermNachTer]

Orelik on the emblem looks more like a plucked chicken))))

[Graduate student]

Warsaw admitted both facts, but tried to hush up the scandal

Amazing. Why are they so suddenly? Not like them. The West usually begins to blame in response on the principle of "he is."
It's good that they didn't succeed in hushing up.