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US approves sale of reconnaissance aircraft to Kazakhstan

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US approves sale of reconnaissance aircraft to Kazakhstan

The United States approved the sale of reconnaissance aircraft to Kazakhstan. This is stated in a notification from the Defense Cooperation Agency (DSCA) of the US Department of Defense, sent to Congress.


The Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan will be armed with American intelligence systems, the US State Department has approved the possible sale of two King Air B300ER Scorpion aircraft with associated equipment to Kazakhstan. The total amount of the contract is $ 128,1 million.

According to the notification, the delivery will include: two King Air B300ER Scorpion aircraft, three sets of Raytheon AST TITAN Communications Intelligence (COMINT) sensors, of which one is a spare, 3 AESA radar systems with electronic scanning (AESA) Leonardo Osprey 30, one of them is a spare as well as other related hardware, including software. The agreement also provides logistical support for the US government and contractors.

The main contractor will be Sierra Nevada Corporation.

The notice says the eventual sale will not change the balance of power in the region and will support the US foreign and national security objectives by enhancing the security of a partner country in Central Asia.

The King Air B300ER Scorpion Aircraft is a multifunctional aircraft capable of carrying cargo, carrying out reconnaissance or guarding borders. The aircraft's modular design allows it to be quickly reconfigured for specific missions.
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  1. Eldorado
    Eldorado 24 December 2020 15: 57
    +24
    Well, well ... let's remember Kazakhstan. Without clinking glasses! drinks
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 24 December 2020 16: 05
      +14
      In Kazakhstan, the Caspian cities have long been dominated by Westerners.
      Entire American towns behind tall fences and armed guards. That's it ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 24 December 2020 16: 18
        +17
        Quote: Scary_L.
        In Kazakhstan, the Caspian cities have long been dominated by Westerners.

        A year and a half ago, when I wrote a comment against Kazakhstan, they gave me a remark with an asterisk.
        1. Terrible_L.
          Terrible_L. 24 December 2020 16: 21
          +11
          this is not for or against Kazakhstan, this is just what I saw with my own eyes hi
          1. Temples
            Temples 24 December 2020 16: 41
            +18
            Kazakhstan was invented by the communists.
            Stalin approved Kazakhstan as a republic.
            It's just a miracle that Orenburg is now a Russian city.

            The Cossack camp turned into a thousand-year-old country of camel drivers.
            This thousand-year-old people, like all the "ancient" ones, had a written language yesterday, and that one in Cyrillic.

            The agreement adopted by the communists in Belovezhskaya Pushcha must be declared illegal.
            And not to recognize the borders of the former Soviet republics.
            1. Vasiliev S.
              Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 16: 54
              -11%
              Quote: Temples
              This thousand-year-old people, like all the "ancient" ones, had a written language yesterday, and that one in Cyrillic.
              Oh, really tunnels ?!
              And nothing that inscriptions on the Turks are known from the XNUMXth century. BC e.?
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 24 December 2020 17: 34
                +10
                Quote: VasilievS
                And nothing that inscriptions on the Turks are known from the XNUMXth century. BC e.?

                And who left these inscriptions? Not really Kazakhs?
                1. Vasiliev S.
                  Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 43
                  -10%
                  The vocabulary coincides by about half with modern Kazakh
                  Draw your own conclusions
                  1. Krasnoyarsk
                    Krasnoyarsk 24 December 2020 17: 54
                    +8
                    Quote: VasilievS
                    Draw your own conclusions

                    I did it a long time ago. Before the Russians came there, there were many books in Kazakhstan, or rather in this territory, were there? Did many Kazakhs know how to read these books? How many Kazakhs could write in "Turks"?
                    But when the Russians came, they gave them a writing based on the Cyrillic alphabet, then after 2 generations everyone knew how to write.
                    Writing is when more than two dozen people use it.
                    1. Vasiliev S.
                      Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 55
                      -12%
                      Likewise, before the communists, the majority of Russians did not know how not to write or read.
                      Confusing warm with soft.
                      1. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 24 December 2020 18: 09
                        +2
                        Quote: VasilievS
                        Likewise, before the communists, the majority of Russians did not know how not to write or read.
                        Confusing warm with soft.

                        At the expense of the majority, you are exaggerating. Let's do it then - in every settlement of Russia there was always at least one person who could both write and read. On the territory that is now called RK, were there many settlements in which at least one Kazakh permanently lived who could write and read in "Turki"? The writing system used by two dozen people cannot be called writing. By the way, what alphabet was the writing you specified based on? Isn't it Arabic for an hour?
                      2. Vasiliev S.
                        Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 19
                        -4
                        Ancient inscriptions are written in Orkhon runes.
                        With the spread of Islam, they really switched to the Arabic alphabet.
                        And yes - there was a significant number of local intelligentsia, such as imams, alims, who could not only write and read.
                        To what extent there were relatively more or less of them in comparison with the literate stratum of Russians, I find it difficult to say.
                        I have not seen such statistics.
                        I will add - among the Kazakhs, many mullahs were Tatars or Uzbeks.
                      3. Krasnoyarsk
                        Krasnoyarsk 24 December 2020 18: 30
                        0
                        Quote: VasilievS

                        And yes - there was a significant number of local intelligentsia, such as imams, alims, who could not only write and read.

                        I am trying to imagine an aul in which "a significant number of local intelligentsia" create literary creations with Orkhon runes.
                      4. Vasiliev S.
                        Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 34
                        -7
                        They wrote in Arabic, that's a fact.
                        So Pushkin was a Francophone.
                    2. bayard
                      bayard 25 December 2020 07: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: VasilievS
                      Ancient inscriptions are written in Orkhon runes.

                      Are you not talking about the Kue-Tegin's gravestone stele?
                      So there is written in three languages ​​the history of the Empire in which the majority were Russians, Turks and Chinese. And it says about the origin of the Turks.
                      And these were by no means Kazakhs.
                      Here are the Kyrgyz - yes.
                      And the Kazakhs (those who began to be called so are the Dzungars, natives of northern China and Eastern Turkestan.
                      And in general, the Turkic language was the language of the army - the border guards, which is why there was a cross-breeding of Russian daredevils with Chini girls on the border.
                      There is an ethnographic anecdote on this topic.
                      The old aksakal speaks to a young horseman:
                      - Sinok, did you Kyz gyz?
                      - Kyral.
                      - And your father is kyral gyz?
                      - Kyral!
                      - A grandfather, your grandfather Kyral gyz?
                      - Of course kyral, he was a horseman!
                      - If a kyral is a Chinii gyz, it is called KYRGYZ.
                      So "the Turks are from the Russian clan, from the redheads such strength, the descendants of the hero and the trotter are the doubled root of a reliable essence."
                      This is just from the inscription on the very stele.
                      And again: "The Turks have always been the mainstay of our throne ... And what a great army was ... and what flowed away. Like Slava. Don't agree?"
                      The real descendants of those same Turks are the COSSACKS. By the way, my grandfather spoke several Turkic dialects, and I myself am from the ancestral village of one of the descendants of Genghis Khan, the ataman of the Ural Khanzhin Army. yes
                      So the Turks are the Turks - our second cousins ​​(sometimes cousins) brothers.
                      And the Kazakhs are the Dzungars, who came from China from the massacres there, at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries.
                      They are the same refugees as the Armenians in Karabakh and the Erivan Khanate.
                      And the language is not yet a certificate of belonging. Vaughn, most of the population of India speaks English ...
                      So what ?
                      Are they English?
                      By the way, the Turks of the Great Empire had their own letter - Uyghur, from which the Arabic originated (like the Arabs themselves in half of theirs), that letter and on the weapons of Russian princes and boyars is written, for the Turkic (Uyghur, Arabic) language is the language of the Army.
                      Then our World was one.
                      That would not hurt even today.
                  2. Vasiliev S.
                    Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 25
                    -4
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    At the expense of the majority, you are exaggerating
                    According to the general census of 1897, there were 1000 literate people per 211 people.
            2. Guru
              Guru 25 December 2020 11: 10
              0
              The vocabulary coincides by about half with modern Kazakh
              Draw your own conclusions
              Yes, is it really only with Kazakh belay Not Uzbek, Tatar, Bashkir, Kyrgyz and a number of languages ​​of the Caucasus ??? And you do not tell me who before the Revolution was called the Wild Kirghiz? And also google Turkish on this topic!
              1. Vasiliev S.
                Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 11: 18
                0
                I'm not going to argue with the obvious.
                I actually objected to the absolutely idiotic statement above that Kazakhs first appeared in Cyrillic.
                Although, thousands of years before the birth of Cyril with Methodius, there was already writing.
        2. halpat
          halpat 25 December 2020 09: 05
          -1
          Quote: VasilievS
          Quote: Temples
          This thousand-year-old people, like all the "ancient" ones, had a written language yesterday, and that one in Cyrillic.
          Oh, really tunnels ?!
          And nothing that inscriptions on the Turks are known from the XNUMXth century. BC e.?

          Explain what are "Turks"? Someone invented a new chzyk?
          1. Vasiliev S.
            Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 09: 18
            0
            Why are you so stupid then?
            In Google banned?
            Or does faith prevent you from asking?
            1. halpat
              halpat 25 December 2020 09: 25
              0
              Quote: VasilievS
              Why are you so stupid then?
              In Google banned?
              Or does faith prevent you from asking?

              There were many ancient scripts :) among the Turkic-speaking peoples at least 7 different ones are known.
              no "Turki" is mentioned.
              perhaps in some special Erdogan studies, to prove the "Aryan"
              although he himself is not a Turk, he is not a Turk, but a kind of descendant of Ajarian Georgians :) he himself told uh :)
              1. Vasiliev S.
                Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 09: 31
                0
                By Türks I meant the Türkic literary language, before the Tatars spoke and wrote not it
                Perhaps it is not entirely correct to apply it to ancient inscriptions
                But the term is so well known that, as a rule, it does not need explanations.
      2. Rostislav
        Rostislav 24 December 2020 17: 45
        -1
        At least return the virgin lands, cut to the Kazakhs. And if following the example of the Crimea?
        1. Olkhovsky
          Olkhovsky 24 December 2020 19: 46
          -2
          All northern Kazakhstan must return to Russia.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 24 December 2020 21: 18
            +5
            Olkhovsky, here one activist has already called for a 100 km wide corridor to Baikonur .. What will such actions lead to, have you ever wondered? How will the indigenous, Turkic peoples of Russia react? And how will the exiled peoples react (the Vainakhs, for example, the Chechens and Ingush), who consider the Republic of Kazakhstan their second homeland? And what will the Russophobes in the east and west say? ... The Central Asian countries will turn to Beijing. I will not say anything about Islamic countries. And Russophobes will throw a hysterics - in the west they will simply be happy with the presented gift to declare Russia an aggressor. Do you need it?
            The country's policy in terms of arms procurement is to buy from far abroad only what is not produced in the CSTO. For example. UAVs in the PRC, night sights and means of communication with the Turks (a plant in the capital) and the French ... Is the Russian Federation doing something in this class about these scouts ?! For five years now, the United States has insisted that we switch to their standards. To which they were told that NATO samples are too expensive for us - that's the whole answer. After the war in NK, we took care of UAVs and reconnaissance means.
            In the meantime ... Today a new Su-30SM unit has landed in Karaganda. hi
            1. Olkhovsky
              Olkhovsky 24 December 2020 23: 47
              -4
              How will the indigenous, Turkic peoples of Russia react? And how will the exiled peoples react (the Vainakhs, for example, the Chechens and Ingush), who consider the Republic of Kazakhstan their second homeland? And what will the Russophobes in the east and west say? ..

              Least of all we should be interested in these questions. There are lands that have nothing to do with Kazakhstan. This is Russian land. Sooner or later we will return everything back.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 25 December 2020 01: 54
                +4
                I am not going to polemicize on this topic. Good luck.
              2. Vasiliev S.
                Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 09: 19
                0
                Rather, China will take the Far East.
                There are no prerequisites for returns and there are no close ones.
                We push ourselves away from Donbass with both hands.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 25 December 2020 00: 07
              +2
              A flight of the new Su-30SM has landed in Karaganda today.

              good
            3. Pamir
              Pamir 25 December 2020 01: 04
              +4
              Dauren, you, the Kazakhs, have a lot of smart sayings in life, here is one;
              Dosiң dos bolғanғa shattan, Dұshpanmen dos boludan satan.
              Into Russian; Be proud of a true friend, beware of becoming a friend of the enemy.
              No one from the Russian Federation will ever cut through some worthless corridors to Kazakhstan. But there is, BUT, there is no need to buy weapons and flirt with the existential opponents of the Russian Federation. The CSTO obliges to some obligations that no one from Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia shot. There is such a term for the Turks "Mankurt", remember. It should be remembered, first the bucks, then the air reconnaissance men, who are they against Kazakhstan? Then the Maidans-revolutions. You probably know when a Kazakh child's legs get confused? So, at a certain moment, you don't have to unravel. We seem to have everyone in the CSTO, we are for each other, the weapons are unified with the CSTO countries. Why purchases from the Anglo-Saxons. Tomorrow you will switch to 5,56 caliber, against whom ? There is a saying, "You will set a trap for your neighbor, sooner or later you will find yourself, do not call for help, bite off your own limb." In Kazakh; "Siz kurshіңizge tұzak koyasyz, erte me, kesh pe, kөmekke shaқyrmaңyz, ayyz-қsteez .And do not forget, the northern, middle "Juz", n Not only the language, he does not know the customs of the Kazakhs. Probably you know about "Kokpar", "Zharzhar" Earlier, for such disrespect for Kazakh customs and games, you could pay with your head. at the entrance to someone else's house and lightly wipe your feet, bow your head, greet the aksakals with both hands, as a sign of respect for the owner's family, they are not used to such, in their opinion, little things that are significant for the Kazakhs. Russians who lived recognize respect, They also know how on the table, and what parts of meat are on the body, from which animal in color, according to what age group, as a sign of respect, Kazakhs are divided. And such customs in the house of Kazakhs, we appreciate. He himself lived in the southern, senior Zhuz V Lugovoy-Ryskulov, I know, and about Amangeldy, Abay Kunanbayev, Ibraya Yltynsarin, Zhambyl Zhabayev, Al-Farabi, Aisha Bibi, Bauyrzhan Momysh-Uly. These people, a lot of good things in Kazakh-Russian relations did not come to us. transform.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 25 December 2020 02: 22
                +4
                Pavel, actually I am a supporter of the EAEU. And I'm not going to raise the topic of land ownership. Stupid calls that sometimes appear here, to comment ... I ignore, in short.
                Glad to see my fellow countryman. Many, judging by the comments, have not even been here. Pavel, do you really think that Kazakhstan will exchange the CSTO for some other union - Turan and all that ??? ... Fairy tales are ... An alliance with the main nuclear power on the mythical promises of NATO countries or even China ??? belay Here they are friends with their heads.
                I know from people in uniform that ours are interested in UAVs and everything connected with it. Hence the interest in such devices. Unfortunately, in the CSTO countries, this class of machines is not produced. And the development will come out much more expensive than the cost of these scouts ... Transport S-295 appeared in the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan for this very reason ... Chinese UAVs were purchased several years ago, but there was no air reconnaissance at all ... No one in Kazakhstan is going to switch to NATO standards. hi
                PS If only there were no "bookmarks" on this technique.
                1. Pamir
                  Pamir 25 December 2020 22: 22
                  0
                  Kazakhstan is an established independent state, someone, and the Russian Federation will definitely not encroach on Kazakhstan. Too much in common in history. The main thing is not to draw parallels with Ukraine. There nationalists have achieved what they have achieved. This is where all the "mankurt", "mankurt" , "Ivans, not remembering kinship", not all of course, but many. Well, okay, they are not the first to have such a disease. and didn't try to drive a wedge between neighbors.
              2. Alex Justice
                Alex Justice 25 December 2020 09: 10
                -3
                But there is, BUT, there is no need to buy weapons and flirt with the existential opponents of the Russian Federation. The CSTO obliges to some obligations

                Kazakhstan is a corrupt state. Probably the Americans paid well to the right people.
            4. bayard
              bayard 25 December 2020 07: 46
              -1
              Quote: Kasym
              What will such actions lead to, have you ever wondered? How will the indigenous, Turkic peoples of Russia react? And how will the exiled peoples react (Vainakhs, for example, the Chechens and Ingush), who consider the Republic of Kazakhstan their second homeland? And what will the Russophobes in the east and west say? ... The Central Asian countries will turn to Beijing. I will not say anything about Islamic countries.

              So the question is not about war. It is necessary to restore a single state, then it will be safer and more reliable, and the internal market is large - without customs and duties.
              Or was life bad in a single state?
              Or will there be no place for local elites in a single space?
              Were self-righteous to the point that instead of Baikonur they had to build Vostochny, and what is it like for Kazakhstan to lose Baikonur as a cosmodrome (after the termination of launches)? So the notions of launching Soyuz-5 from it begin ... It turns out for one such rocket to build launches at three cosmodromes ... plus Sea Launch ...
              It's time to end this mess.
              Moreover, the Central Asian republics were categorically against the dissolution of the Union.
              ... And the landing Su-30 is good.
    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 December 2020 16: 52
      -2
      Quote: Scary_L.
      it's not for or against

      It's not the same for everybody
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 December 2020 16: 58
      +1
      Quote: Scary_L.
      this is not for or against Kazakhstan, this is just what I saw with my own eyes

      It is clear that they were not invented. I saw it too.
  • Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 24 December 2020 16: 26
    +4
    There is a clearer marker than western towns - the transition to the Latin alphabet. Moldova, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, now Kazakhs.
  • silverura
    silverura 24 December 2020 18: 50
    -2
    In Kazakhstan, the Caspian cities have long been dominated by Westerners.
    As for me, the fact that in the Siberian regions there are already more Chinese than Russians. Somehow, my splinter in my eye hurts. If you look closely, Moscow itself is not inferior to the "dominance of Westerners". IMHO
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 24 December 2020 16: 12
    0
    Quote: El Dorado
    Well, well ... let's remember Kazakhstan. Without clinking glasses!

    They waited, and they went there too.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 24 December 2020 18: 43
      -2
      So nobody canceled the tax on the right to sell oil.
      Arabs buy all weapons in the United States. Coincidence?
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 24 December 2020 23: 01
        0
        Quote: Alex777
        So nobody canceled the tax on the right to sell oil.

        What does Russia have in stock, in this niche, what could it offer Kazakhstan? This time ...
        Don't you think that this is a kind of "import substitution" ..? wink This two.
        Agent Donald, works until the end of the term and at the maximum ... laughing
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 24 December 2020 23: 07
          0
          Under Agent Donald, the NWF of Kazakhstan was frozen. Elbasy went to solve the issue.
          https://topwar.ru/132826-v-ssha-zamorozheny-milliardy-dollarov-nacfonda-kazahstana.html
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 24 December 2020 23: 14
            0
            Quote: Alex777
            Under Agent Donald, the NWF of Kazakhstan was frozen. Elbasy went to solve the issue.

            Do you know what a "Cover Action" is?
            wink
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 24 December 2020 23: 15
              0
              I also know. that Dariga did not become a recipient. wink
              1. LiSiCyn
                LiSiCyn 24 December 2020 23: 24
                -1
                It wouldn't work ...
                Quote: Alex777
                I also know. that Dariga did not become a recipient.

                Apart from all the "zhuz" troubles, Kazakhs are too patriarchy.
                Kazakhstan is now very developing its military-industrial complex, at the expense of other people's technologies. What have those countries that we will not be allowed to cooperate with, not for any price.
                What do you think falls to us? wink
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 24 December 2020 23: 26
                  0
                  Some of the oligarchs who have moved out are buying up technology companies.
                  What do you think falls to us? wink

                  Apart from all the "zhuz" troubles, Kazakhs are too patriarchy.

                  She had no problems with zhuzes. She is from the same as dad. wink
                  1. LiSiCyn
                    LiSiCyn 24 December 2020 23: 30
                    -1
                    Quote: Alex777
                    Some of the oligarchs who have moved out are buying up technology companies.
                    What do you think falls to us?

                    Why not?
                    Whatever they met, on a dark night, unknown people in Monaco did not poke a knife, or an alpenstock on the head ... laughing
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 24 December 2020 23: 47
                      0
                      Whatever a newbie meets and asks to return everything ... bully
  • Anar
    Anar 24 December 2020 20: 48
    -3
    Not good, Russians can't sell to Turks, but can Americans sell to Cossacks?
  • zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 24 December 2020 15: 59
    +7
    As it gets weirder and weirder, here we and the Chinese. Apparently the grenades of the wrong system))))))
    1. Artavazdych
      Artavazdych 24 December 2020 16: 22
      -1
      No, it's even more interesting - there are both Turks and Chinese here. We are somewhere on the sidelines
      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 24 December 2020 16: 34
        +1
        Not on the sidelines, fortunately. But no one kisses us hickly either
        1. Artavazdych
          Artavazdych 24 December 2020 16: 49
          -5
          Well, yes, and we are waiting while they kiss.
          And you have to beat in the teeth already. At least demand Petropavlovsk back. To start.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 24 December 2020 17: 00
            -8
            Quote: Artavazdych
            At least demand Petropavlovsk back. To start.

            Yes, not only Petropavlovsk, but half of Kazakhstan.
            1. Artavazdych
              Artavazdych 24 December 2020 17: 03
              -10%
              Well, specifically for the planes Petropavlovsk. And further down the list
            2. Vasiliev S.
              Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 03
              -12%
              There will be nothing like that - Russian bosses remember Afghanistan well.
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 24 December 2020 17: 06
                -3
                Quote: VasilievS
                There will be nothing like that - Russian bosses remember Afghanistan well.

                Who knows these bonzes. But here is the Great Dzhangarsky Passage on the territory of Kazakhstan, this is already a toothache.
              2. Artavazdych
                Artavazdych 24 December 2020 17: 42
                -1
                No, it is the Mujahideen who remember the Shuravi well. By the way, they remember them well.
                Power is loved everywhere. That is, they respect, I wanted to say.
                Pysy. Usually, such a contingent as you is sharply activated during significant events. Maybe you just have a personal - seasonal aggravation?
                1. Vasiliev S.
                  Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 46
                  -6
                  So why are you so horny?
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 24 December 2020 19: 32
                  -1
                  Quote: Artavazdych
                  Maybe you just have a personal - seasonal aggravation?

                  Probably allergic after Christmas, to you.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 December 2020 16: 05
    +5
    It is a pity that we do not make such devices. A-50, A-100 are still too large, powerful and expensive for most countries.
    1. kit88
      kit88 24 December 2020 16: 13
      +7
      This is more of an IL-20 than an A-50
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 24 December 2020 16: 13
      +7
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      It is a pity that we do not make such devices.

      And even if they did it, and sold it cheaper, they would still buy American ones.
      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 24 December 2020 16: 25
        +2
        RK maneuvers. Along with the mattress arms, ours, both Chinese and Turkish are purchased. Multi-vector, etit pounding.
        1. Terrible_L.
          Terrible_L. 24 December 2020 16: 27
          -1
          If only it was not like in that saying about maneuvering ships
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 24 December 2020 16: 26
        0
        I agree Vlad. We would be asked to forgive brotherly.
      3. Vasiliev S.
        Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 16: 32
        -7
        Because they have AFAR!
      4. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 24 December 2020 16: 35
        -3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And even if they did it, and sold it cheaper, they would still buy American ones.

        You are wrong. They received Mi-35 and Su-30 this year and plan to purchase more. The issue of competitive products. Except for the Mi-17/35, Su-30, S-400, there is really nothing to offer.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 December 2020 17: 01
          -2
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          In addition to the Mi-17/35, Su-30, S-400, there is really nothing to offer.

          T-90, shells, tori
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 24 December 2020 21: 24
            -5
            There is no point in buying the T-90 for those who have the T-72, it is enough to upgrade them. Carapace, Thor is an interesting proposal, but after this year the reputation cannot be restored.
            Specifically regarding Kazakhstan, they have a lot of air defense systems and T-72s from the USSR, it is enough to modernize them.
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 December 2020 22: 06
              0
              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              there is a T-72

              300 pieces? Even the Armenians had more.
              Given the nature of the terrain and area of ​​Kazakhstan, there is room to grow, to put it mildly.

              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              Carapace, Thor <...> after this year the reputation cannot be restored

              Not everyone is so impressionable. Do you think there are no people in Kazakhstan with shoulder straps who have studied military affairs not according to articles in the media and who know how to think with their heads?

              Quote: OgnennyiKotik
              Specifically, regarding Kazakhstan, they have a lot of air defense systems and T-72 from the USSR

              On a "lot" of T-72: I spoke above.
              Air defense: 50 wasps and 70 shilok, in your opinion, this is a lot?
  • Cron
    Cron 24 December 2020 16: 11
    +3
    Will there be sanctions from the Russian Federation following the Turkish example?)
    1. ximkim
      ximkim 24 December 2020 16: 30
      +1
      Rather, there will be financial assistance for the purchase of these aircraft.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 December 2020 16: 23
    +2
    But this is not good, the striped ones just do nothing. From me to the border with Kazakhs about twenty kilometers.
  • Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 24 December 2020 16: 28
    +5
    Why are you angry? The country is independent, he buys from whoever he wants. Your grievances are reminiscent of the grievances of your wife, whom your husband left. Offer the Kazakhs a better and cheaper product, you can't, well then don't worry.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 24 December 2020 17: 01
      +5
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Offer Kazakhs a better and cheaper product, you can't, well then don't worry.

      In this case, it's not about the price and quality .. here the policy and vector of Kazakhstan is clear .. unfortunately.
      The previous article by Vladimir Karasev, heading "opinion" very accurately describes the future development of both the post-Soviet countries and the Russian Federation.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 24 December 2020 17: 04
        +5
        Why, then, does no one seek to embrace Russia? Is there at least one country - our loyal ally?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 24 December 2020 19: 36
          +6
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          Why, then, does no one seek to embrace Russia? Is there at least one country - our loyal ally?

          There is and will not be .. until we have an idea, as long as there is no positive experience and social justice .. no one will follow us, there is simply nowhere to go ..
      2. Quper
        Quper 24 December 2020 17: 16
        +1
        And neither of which Kazakhstan and Russia have a single air defense system and 99% of Kazakhstan's weapons are Russian Soviet.
      3. anjey
        anjey 24 December 2020 17: 59
        -4
        It seems that soon you will have to show the Force, real or imaginary, everything is heading for a big war, the United States is knocking down a flock around Russia with a "jackal" ...
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 24 December 2020 19: 37
          +2
          Quote: anjey
          It seems that soon you will have to show the Force, real or imaginary, everything is heading for a big war, the United States is knocking down a flock around Russia with a "jackal" ...

          Who will show her strength .. yes, and what is our strength? In the biggest yachts or houses in the england?
          1. anjey
            anjey 24 December 2020 19: 59
            -3
            Well, quite so hopeless, maybe then give up and not fool everyone laughing
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 24 December 2020 20: 03
              +5
              Quote: anjey
              Well, quite so hopeless, maybe then give up and not fool everyone laughing

              Do you think they didn't give up? If they allow the "enemy" to do whatever they want in the post-Soviet space? In my opinion, everything was passed a long time ago, there are attempts to defend the business of the oligarchs ... but that one is not successful either.
              1. anjey
                anjey 24 December 2020 20: 06
                -2
                Let's wait and see what else can be said, we cannot penetrate into their brains and put them under control, rather, on the contrary, the trend is traced laughing
    2. Victorio
      Victorio 24 December 2020 17: 04
      -1
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Why are you angry? Independent country, buys from whoever he wants. Your grievances are reminiscent of the grievances of your wife, whom your husband abandoned. Offer Kazakhs a better and cheaper product, you can't, well then don't worry.

      ===
      elite plays independence
    3. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 24 December 2020 18: 01
      +1
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Independent country

      In order to preserve the meaning of the word "independent", it must stop applying it to all countries indiscriminately, just because it is written somewhere in some papers. Our world is arranged in such a way that only a few countries on the entire planet are relatively independent. In all other cases, if any country does not depend on us, then we can confidently say that it depends on some of our "partners". Nature abhors a vacuum.
  • anjey
    anjey 24 December 2020 16: 40
    +2
    The "khanate" of Central Asia loves wealth and strength and is always ready to betray, I will not talk about the whole people, but strengthening the border and military bases along the Kazakh border will not be superfluous laughing Moreover, the Kazakhs were drawn to the Latin alphabet, the Europeans, damn it, found one more laughingIt's not casual if the Yankees got in there ...
    1. Vasiliev S.
      Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 16: 58
      -6
      This is true for everyone.
      Turkmenistan passed.
      Uzbekistan is being transferred.
      The Kyrgyz haven't decided yet.
      In Latin.
      1. anjey
        anjey 24 December 2020 17: 03
        +4
        There is an elementary flirtation with the West, in order to obtain preferences from them in trade, finance, industry, since Russia does not go well to their markets, the void is filled by "partners", we are soon expecting a surge of Russophobia in Kazakhstan.
        1. Vasiliev S.
          Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 52
          -5
          Quote: anjey
          Soon we are waiting for a surge of Russophobia in Kazakhstan
          About the official pitchfork on the water ...
          And at the household level, I suppose it will not.
          Kazakhs love Russians.
          I'm serious.
        2. Mikhail m
          Mikhail m 24 December 2020 17: 57
          +7
          Quote: anjey
          we are expecting a surge of Russophobia in Kazakhstan soon.

          There is no need to wait. It is enough to compare the percentage of the Russian population in Kazakhstan by year. How many Russians fled, abandoning everything, from the "fraternal" republic.
          1. Vasiliev S.
            Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 10
            -5
            I was offered a vacancy in Astana.
            The personnel officer spoke Russian better than most Russians.
            1. Mikhail m
              Mikhail m 24 December 2020 18: 17
              +3
              Without Russian specialists and hard workers, the industry withered. But nobody canceled nationalism.
              1. Vasiliev S.
                Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 22
                -2
                I'm not Russian if anything
                Of the northern peoples
                Perhaps I'll go to the Uzbeks, to fish ...
                1. Mikhail m
                  Mikhail m 24 December 2020 18: 25
                  0
                  It's not a trend to leave Russia for work, but still a fair wind.
                  1. Vasiliev S.
                    Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 26
                    -1
                    It's hard in Russia now ...
                    We are getting poorer every year.
          2. Victorio
            Victorio 24 December 2020 20: 46
            -6
            Quote: Mikhail M
            How many Russians ran away, leaving everything from the "fraternal" republic.

            ===
            possible isolated cases, but, in general, this was not the case in Kazakhstan
            1. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 25 December 2020 09: 47
              +1
              possible isolated cases, but, in general, this was not the case in Kazakhstan

              Lying is bad. I lived in the industrial city of Shevchenko. Recently visited there. Industry no longer exists, everything is ruined. Even the name of the city was changed to Aktau. Only oil remained. All Russians who could have left. And these are thousands of specialists. There were only those who could not get housing in Russia. The oil will run out and fill the city with sand. And what will the scouts do there, count the sheep?
              1. Vasiliev S.
                Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 10: 34
                -1
                Quote: Alex Justice
                The oil runs out and falls asleep
                And everything, everything will fall asleep!
                You need to work as a humorist.
                When I was young I came to Surgut to work
                And I also heard similar conversations ...
                To which my then boss said - “I came in my youth, in the 60s, and I heard the same thing.
                And now I have grown old and I hear the same thing again "
                And now I have grown old and again the same song ...
                Wax - even when you get old and die - it will not end, it will not fall asleep.
              2. Victorio
                Victorio 26 December 2020 16: 05
                0
                Quote: Alex Justice
                possible isolated cases, but, in general, this was not the case in Kazakhstan

                Lying is bad. I lived in the industrial city of Shevchenko. Recently visited there. Industry no longer exists, everything is ruined. Even the name of the city was changed to Aktau. Only oil remained. All Russians who could have left. And these are thousands of specialists. There were only those who could not get housing in Russia. The oil will run out and fill the city with sand. And what will the scouts do there, count the sheep?

                ===
                Lying is bad
                ? don't lie, what is the problem. I also lived in the once industrial city of Shevchenko, and now it is not known why Aktau, already since 1972. left to study before the collapse of the USSR. however, some of my classmates are there to this day, while others have left. Shevchenko was a city of young people, they came to build and earn money, and when enterprises began to close, people began to leave. so, in fact, it was in all the republics, somewhere else local nationalism was added. Kazakhstan did not stand out in this respect. Having spent a long time in Kaliningrad, I met and worked with Kazakh Germans who were leaving / leaving northern Kazakhstan under the program of returning to Germany, and they have no complaints about their small homeland.
          3. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 25 December 2020 09: 34
            -1
            How many Russians fled, abandoning everything, from the "fraternal" republic.

            The Kazakhs do not need industry, so specialists left, whoever they could. They pump oil and fatten on it. The oil will run out, we will have to breed camels and sheep again.
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 24 December 2020 17: 14
        -8
        Quote: VasilievS
        Kyrgyz like

        No desire to go to a speech therapist?
        1. Vasiliev S.
          Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 15
          +1
          Do not understand why you are?
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 24 December 2020 17: 21
            -5
            Quote: VasilievS
            Do not understand why you are?

            Besides, they write in Russian here. Not necessarily quite literate, but deliberately replacing some letters with others is strange.
            1. Vasiliev S.
              Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 23
              0
              Aaaa - you are just not in the subject.
              The correct pronunciation is Kyrgyz, Kyrgyzzdar.
              It's like Bashkirs - Bashkortar ...
              1. Humpty
                Humpty 24 December 2020 17: 30
                -5
                Quote: VasilievS
                Aaaa - you are just not in the subject.

                There it is what It's not my topic to distort my language.
                On sput-byr-hole what and how it is spelled I do not follow.
                1. Vasiliev S.
                  Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 32
                  -2
                  Yah?
                  Not true, I guess ...
                  Top manager or merchandiser don't say either?
                  It is not necessary to pass off the lack of education for some imaginary merit.
                  1. Humpty
                    Humpty 24 December 2020 17: 44
                    -9
                    Quote: VasilievS
                    Yah?

                    Better about a plane ...
                    And do not touch the Russian language, it seems not for you.
                    1. Vasiliev S.
                      Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 17: 44
                      0
                      And this is for me to decide
                  2. Victorio
                    Victorio 24 December 2020 20: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: VasilievS
                    Top manager or merchandiser don't say either?

                    ===
                    ... I don't consider myself a connoisseur of the Russian language, just a native one, but I can't even hear such words, let alone use them, with their ever-increasing number, without cursing)
              2. Dkuznecov
                Dkuznecov 24 December 2020 20: 23
                0
                Shymkent also mention.
  • d1975
    d1975 24 December 2020 16: 50
    -1
    All the same, the president was right when he said that they had taken too much. The yurt had to be left and that's it! But EBN loved С2Н5ОН very much, he had no time for this, nothing better than Humpbacked. Yes, and the darkest honors EBN, which center otrohali. The anaconda ring is narrowing around Russia. In the meantime, our rich people are trying to cope with their homeland, trying their best, and the internal enemy is trying in earnest. The Foreign Ministry, as always, will take care of something, the people will be given the buns of patriotism, Solovyov will tell a lullaby in the evening. Ostensibly life in the country was a success. What do we have? They are being squeezed on all fronts. Kazakhs really climb into the second chair. If only they looked at Ukraine, what and how. Well, it means so. am
  • Victorio
    Victorio 24 December 2020 16: 52
    -1
    the next new vector friends of russia
  • Alien From
    Alien From 24 December 2020 16: 56
    -2
    So the tentacles reached out to the Kazakhs am , although they also do not mind ...
  • Nikon OConor
    Nikon OConor 24 December 2020 17: 21
    -1
    Suddenly, an interesting thought arose:
    He flies, scouts there for himself something, Kazakhs sit at the checkpoint, analyze the data, and the plane simultaneously transmits the second data packet to the USA.
    maybe or not?
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 24 December 2020 17: 26
      -5
      Quote: Nikon OConor
      Kazakhs are sitting at the checkpoint, analyzing the data, and the plane simultaneously transmits the second data packet to the United States.

      They say that irons and refrigerators, in principle, can do this, not to mention an airplane built in an unfriendly state.
      1. Vasiliev S.
        Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 05
        -5
        Oh, damn it - everyone has already forgotten the story with the telegram?
        When they tried to ban it with locks ...
        X-ray apparatus, etc. suddenly stopped working - they turn to foreign servers for a license, etc.
        This aircraft definitely has engineering access, perhaps even official and described in the documentation.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 24 December 2020 17: 26
    -3
    Marketing is great power! It is strange that the guys in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan and in general ... in the leadership behave like in a supermarket, grabbing everything bright and colorful. And who will now let your "flying eyes" go to the borders of the Russian Federation or to the CSTO exercises? Or will you stop driving? To your health ...
    In general, cool! We are here about the brotherhood of peoples, and they are on the sly with the elites ... And it works the same, and is cheaper than ours. I'm not sure that the preferences to Kazakhstan and assistance are comparable to the "costs" of our "sworn friends" and striped and yellow (sorry "red"). And after all business is: "Kazakhstan is a great independent power with its role in world politics" And do not care about geography, economics, etc.
  • RoTTor
    RoTTor 24 December 2020 17: 29
    -4
    And here the zrada is stolen ...
    Let's remember everything ..
  • Dzerjinskiy56
    Dzerjinskiy56 24 December 2020 17: 43
    -2
    This is called "cunning". Kazakhs realized that the main enemies for the United States, China and Russia. We decided to make money on this, since the border allows blackmailing both countries. I am interested in the equipment of these birds and how far their eyes and ears will hear. In general, it's time for Elbasy to explain where the "Red Lines" pass !!!
    1. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 24 December 2020 20: 20
      -4
      There is no need to explain anything to Kazakhstan.
      They left orbit, and now they think what is the center of power
      choose - China or Turkey.
  • seacap
    seacap 24 December 2020 17: 55
    +2
    2nd nenka, has been going for a long time and in full swing towards the fact that we will get one more samostiiniks, they began to ride with the slogans of the Maidan even earlier than on the nezalezhnaya, even during the elbasy they expelled Russian-speakers from all leading positions. Again, because of inactivity and mediocrity, hiding behind speeches about non-interference and sovereignty, etc., about anything overseas, nowhere in the world except us, they do not even suspect and do not know such a concept, they themselves, almost purposefully, or maybe not almost, We "cultivate" one more hostile link. What kind of statehood or mythical sovereignty can we talk about in territories and with peoples who have never in the history of civilization had a state as such, without traditions and generations of elites of state education and government, as today it is no longer an artificial formation that is not viable? Such a persistent and stubborn unwillingness to defend and defend their vital interests, their territories, on their fiefdoms, by some misunderstanding and by a drunken whim, rejected from the state, in my opinion of the layman, is more like direct and undisguised sabotage or extreme shortsightedness, which is very doubtful. The whole world, any adventurer, criminals can directly, brazenly by force and blackmail interfere in government and politics on Russian lands, creating strongholds and hotbeds of tension, creating their own spheres of influence and their local elites controlled by them, plundering and ruining. We can only smear snot on our cheeks and, spat upon, whipped, stalk about some concern, sovereignty and carry other nonsense, while not lifting a finger to avoid such a shame. What other attitude towards oneself can be expected after this, who else will agree with us to do business? If we betrayed all our friends and allies, giving them to be torn apart and plundered by the enemies, we destroyed our great power created by our great ancestors, hiding behind their portraits and their victories, destroyed the fruits of their accomplishments, under the control of the colonial administration, without war and struggle gave the country and people to plunder, bringing them to their knees. For cowardice, ambition, for the philistine desire to monetize power, in attempts to please and become the same as they are among the overseas "Golgotha", because of the complete moral and intellectual degradation of our so-called. elites, instead of great deeds received war and shame
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 December 2020 18: 07
    -5
    Where are the screams how are we selling equipment to a member of the CSTO, a potential enemy! The Russians will dig in there anyway. In the State Department, the enemy has dug in?
    1. Vasiliev S.
      Vasiliev S. 24 December 2020 18: 59
      +1
      And what is there to dig into?
      The plane is propeller-driven, the radar is Italian, it looks like you can just buy it ...
  • silverura
    silverura 24 December 2020 18: 41
    -5
    Why are you - Mother Russia is so bad that all "brothers and sisters" turn away from you? The Masons are to blame for everything. Everywhere enemies are lurking! Well, nothing, you will all crawl on your knees.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 24 December 2020 21: 31
      0
      UAV from China; infrared sights. and thermal imagers with the Turks organized a plant; we collect airfield radars with the French; APC from South Africa; equipment to a factory where cartridges from Canada are produced; Now these scouts from the United States - is Russia producing anything in this regard ?!
      The government has already stated more than once: from abroad to buy from weapons only what is not produced in the CSTO. hi
      A unit of new Su-30SM has arrived in Karaganda today.
  • Pavel Patrashov
    Pavel Patrashov 24 December 2020 18: 53
    -3
    Why do local aborigines need this technique?
  • Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 24 December 2020 20: 08
    +2
    I am for strong neighbors.
    And then they write here - gas has been burning in Turkmenistan for 50 years
    like they can't put out.
    In general, a question for our Foreign Ministry,
    dancing Kalinka-Lezginka and rotating in orbits,
    Heavenly punishment promising to the whole honest world.

    Friends acquired - 0.

    Reconciled enemies - 0.

    Hesitant
    attracted to their side - 0.

    Complete, complete zero for 20 years of work of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.


  • Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 24 December 2020 22: 08
    -1
    Our over 90% of this country belongs to 100 families. The rest of 146 million remained in the region of 10%. And now experts from this dozen are discussing why the Kazakhs did not buy aircraft from US. Who? They are also very worried about Nord Streams. Don't you think this is funny?
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 25 December 2020 12: 20
    -1
    Quote: VasilievS
    The vocabulary coincides by about half with modern Kazakh
    Draw your own conclusions



    The north of Kazakhstan is the former South Siberia. And that's a fact. As well as the fact that Stalin first formed a region, and then a republic. And Kazakhs have never lived in the north. This is now a wild renaming of cities ...
    1. Vasiliev S.
      Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 15: 31
      0
      It depends on which north.
      To the north of the Kazakhs lived other, but also Turkic-speaking peoples.