The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Russia "could help Donbass in the only way"

The representatives of the Ukrainian authorities cannot come to rest after the statement of Vladimir Putin during the press conference following the results of the year. We are talking about the words of the President of Russia that the Russian Federation will continue to provide assistance to Donbass.

After pondering for several days about how to answer, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry finally declared that "this is a gross violation of Ukrainian legislation and Ukrainian territorial integrity." A strange statement from the world of parallel reality: the provision of humanitarian aid suddenly ceased to comply with the legislation of Ukraine ...

The Ukrainian ministry says how Russia could help Donbass: "It could help the only way - to stop violating international norms."

MFA of Ukraine:

Assistance to Donbass from Russia should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

At the same time, the humanitarian aid provided by Russia to hundreds of thousands of residents of Donbass, which Kiev considers its territory, was called "so-called" by the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry.

In addition, Kiev said that Russia allegedly made every effort to "block negotiations in the Normandy format."

At the same time, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, of course, does not see any destructive steps behind them. They do not comment on the ongoing economic blockade of Donbass, do not comment on the constant proposals to change the order and content of the clauses of the Minsk agreements, do not comment on the presence of foreign mercenaries and heavy equipment in Donbas, which is clearly prohibited by the same Minsk agreements.

Comments

[Victor_B]

The real help to Donbass will be the partition of Ukraine with the formation of Novorossiya.
And there - either it becomes an independent state or joining Russia.
Well, Poland is sure to cover up and bite off a piece. They are no strangers.
Hungary and Romania will not sleep either.

[Doccor18]

Russia to help Donbass: “I could help the only way -

annex to Russia

[Victor_B]

Quote: Doccor18

annex to Russia

Attach what?
The piece for which the battles are going?
The broadest must be thought! Shirshe!

[Profiler]

Quote: Victor_B

Attach what?
The piece for which the battles are going?
The broadest must be thought! Shirshe!

And obviously, people there will not accept such a half-measure as the recognition of "what is" - one third of the territory of Donbass controlled by the republics.
And such a step itself will be perceived in the world entirely as our weakness.

You are right - to decide so to decide! So that for centuries.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Profiler

You are right - to decide so to decide! So that for centuries.

The episode clearly defines that half measures are not our method :

[Pilot]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: Profiler

You are right - to decide so to decide! So that for centuries.

The episode clearly defines that half measures are not our method :

We don't need nine hundred, two hundred and five hundred! (c) I hope there is no need to translate what the Russians and Ukrainians need to do so that, for centuries,.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Pilot

We don't need nine hundred, two hundred and five hundred! (c) I hope there is no need to translate what the Russians and Ukrainians need to do so that, for centuries,.

There have been a lot of psychotropic drugs there for a long time, and you are talking about "fire water" for skakuas ...

A fresh newcomer from the Ukrainian Armed Forces to the LPR, don't be lazy, take a look, and everything should become clear:

[Pilot]

Quote: Insurgent

There have been a lot of psychotropic drugs there for a long time, and you are talking about "fire water" for skakuas ...

So not all there are skakuas and junkies and not at all, fire water, I meant - two hundred, this is a specific marking ..

[Insurgent]

Quote: Pilot

So not all there are skakuas and junkies and not at all, fire water, I meant - two hundred, this is a specific marking ..

I am aware of what this marking means (scanned plates, with 2-sided lamination of excellent quality from home archives), but you also mentioned the numbers "900" and "500" in a number of figures, which critically "blurred" the idea of ​​your comment.

[Pilot]

,, 500 ,, are already drinking together, one Mr. and ,, 900 ,, already referred to your quote and video. It seems that everything is simple ..

[krot]

The Sumerians will soon get lost out of anger.

[boris epstein]

After his testimony during interrogation, his return to Ukraine would have grave consequences for him, although he did not say anything new for the LDNR intelligence. Only confirmed the available information.

[iouris]

Why lay it out? It is not correct.

[Insurgent]

Quote: iouris

Why lay it out? It is not correct.

For whom? Punisher addict?

[Doccor18]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: Doccor18

annex to Russia

Attach what?
The piece for which the battles are going?
The broadest must be thought! Shirshe!

I am in general for the reconstruction of the USSR, but you need to start small: Crimea, Donbas ...

[boris epstein]

But then it is impossible to allow the derban of the territory of the Ukrainian SSR from Poland, Romania, Hungary. But they are sharpening all their teeth.

[krops777]

Ancestors have been collecting the country for centuries ... have you already decided to cut?

No need for hysterics, these ancestors planted a bomb called Ukraine, not out of malice, of course with good intentions, but what we have is what we have, and we will have to unravel this tangle of contradictions for descendants.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: krops777

No need for hysterics, these ancestors planted a bomb called Ukraine, not out of malice, of course with good intentions, but what we have is what we have, and we will have to unravel this tangle of contradictions for descendants.

There is no need to lie, "the bomb was blown up" in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, those who are now in power, both with us and with them. And their names are well known. The Yeltsin Center under Putin was built and financed from the budget. Already got enough of your "protective" lies.

[krops777]

Don't lie, "the bomb was blown up" in Belovezhskaya Pushcha

Did you add the east, west and Crimea to Ukraine, too, in Belovezhskaya Pushcha?

Understand for a start and only then draw conclusions.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: krops777

Did you add the east, west and Crimea to Ukraine, too, in Belovezhskaya Pushcha?

Who destroyed the unified state? Aren't they the ones for whom Yeltsin built the center for budget money?

[krops777]

Who destroyed the unified state? Aren't they the ones for whom Yeltsin built the center for budget money?

HM yes, probably those who were at the helm after Stalin were.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: krops777

HM yes, probably those who were at the helm after Stalin were.

You can still remember the Pechenegs and the Polovtsians.

[krops777]

You can still remember the Pechenegs and the Polovtsians.

So I did not start about the ancestors

[tihonmarine]

Quote: krops777

No need for hysterics, these ancestors planted a bomb called Ukraine, not out of malice, of course, with good intentions

"A person will not be happy with good deeds," and also "Do not do good to people, they will answer it with dirty tricks."

[serezhasoldatow]

The ancestors lived until 1917, and after ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Vladimir247

Normal leaders SHOULD begin the reconstruction of the country long ago, with the unification of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.

For this, the country must have a different socio-economic formation. Then worthy leaders will appear.

[Vladimir247]

How will the mushrooms appear?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Vladimir247

How will the mushrooms appear?

How did Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky appear? How many knew about them before October 1917? Who changed the socio-economic formation in RI?

[Vladimir247]

Better to say, a revolutionary situation must mature.
And Lenin came from the Bolshevik Party ... and now they are not there, unfortunately. Not yet.

[boris epstein]

Well, actually there is. The All-Union Communist Party of the Bolsheviks, created at the end of perestroika by the late Nina Alexandrovna Andreeva, peace be upon her. True, the party is small in number, but clean from all sorts of bouncers.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Boris Epstein

Well, actually there is. The All-Union Communist Party of the Bolsheviks, created at the end of perestroika by the late Nina Alexandrovna Andreeva, peace be upon her. True, the party is small in number, but clean from all sorts of bouncers.

There are other small parties, but they will never become parliamentary.

[boris epstein]

But this is not necessary. Lenin said that the RSDLP (b) can have a minimum fraction in the elected government bodies only to declare its position, but not take part in the voting. And at first there was such a faction in the State Duma of the Russian Empire. But she was sent to hard labor in FULL composition.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Boris Epstein

But this is not necessary. Lenin said ...

Yes it is, but the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (although they are rather Mensheviks) needs the same, if only because you can use their parliamentary requests, etc. Grassroots organizations are open to cooperation. I like the position of their deputy Bondarenko.

[boris epstein]

You see, those in power use everything to disavow the faction of the AUCPB or any similar party. Doesn't Grudinin's example tell you anything? But he is far from a Bolshevik. Or Platoshkin? After all, Platoshkin is many times more literate than Grudinin. Therefore, he got it more seriously. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation completely agrees with your assessment.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Boris Epstein

You see, those in power ...

There will be no unification from the bottom, it will be like in Ukraine. Platoshkin's example is very indicative in terms of what happens if a party (movement) "closes in" on only one person.

[boris epstein]

Unification from below ... Yes, it would be nice ... But remember the story of how the RSDLP, which was united at that time, was divided into Bolsheviks and Mensheviks .. Respectively, the lower classes were also divided.

[Vladimir247]

We remember the whole story. No, there is certainly a ton of useful and useful things out there by now. But reality must also be taken into account. The communist idea is now in the fold. But the idea of ​​the responsibility of the authorities is like for everyone. And the idea of ​​restoring the Union is also acceptable to the majority. I don't know what about the idea of ​​fulfilling the oath given to the Soviet people, but also, I think, very many will not reject this idea. Somehow it would be necessary to unite around this. Even Strelkov, on the basis of the Soviet oath, tried to organize something in the Donbass. But what a terry monarchist.

[alekseykabanets]

We will not have unification from the bottom, it will be like in Ukraine. Because the position at the top is becoming more and more precarious.

[boris epstein]

The Soviet oath ... Yes, I also took it. And he did not refuse it. But I, a private stock guard for 1991, and millions like me WITHOUT an organizing center, what could they do? Remind you of the incompetent GKChP? In addition, think about how old are now taking the Soviet oath? At least fifty each.
"The communist idea is now in the pen." But this is to be corrected by the current generation, and we will help as much as we can.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Boris Epstein

"The communist idea is now in the pen." But this is to be corrected by the current generation, and we will help as much as we can.

You are wrong, leftist ideas are more popular today than they were 5 years ago. With the impoverishment of the population, they only become more popular.

[boris epstein]

About the quote "The communist idea is now in the pen." Its author is not me, but the user Vladimir247, and I have already answered that. Claim to the wrong address. There are many leftists. And it's very bad. Sainkov's left Socialist-Revolutionaries, anarchists, social democrats of the outskirts of the Russian Empire were also leftists. But the Savinkaites, the Right Socialist-Revolutionaries, the Mensheviks, went with the whites, the social democrats of the outskirts became nationalists, the anarchists also rushed to extremes. After all, now the picture is the same, only Lenin and Stalin are gone. But how many jerks ?! There is such a Elena Pozdnyakova. She betrayed the theory that the peasantry, WITHOUT the Bolsheviks and Lenin, carried out the Great October Revolution and won the civil war. What is demagogy? Before the October Revolution, the influence of the Right Socialist-Revolutionaries was very strong in the peasantry.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Boris Epstein

About the quote "The communist idea is now in the pen." Its author is not me ...

In many ways, I agree with you. But we will receive a warning for a flood. Therefore, write in a personal, if that.

[boris epstein]

I understood you. Good. Although our conversation is quite informative and civilized.

[Land defence]

The Ukrainian ministry says how Russia could help Donbass: "It could help the only way - to stop violating international norms"

And it sounds like: "Well, give up, eh?"

[NDR-791]

Assistance to Donbass from Russia should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: NDR-791

should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

In other words, give up to be torn apart
Shchazzzzz, you can't wait!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

In other words, give up to be torn apart
Shchazzzzz, you can't wait!

They are bloodthirsty, these Sumerian.

[Lipchanin]

At the same time, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, of course, does not see any destructive steps behind them. They do not comment on the ongoing economic blockade of Donbass, do not comment on the constant proposals to change the order and content of the clauses of the Minsk agreements, do not comment on the presence of foreign mercenaries and heavy equipment in Donbas, which is clearly prohibited by the same Minsk agreements.

In a word, they violate everything that can be violated with the connivance of the signatories of the Minsk agreements, Germany and France

[Mykhalych]

All these so-called "representatives of the Ukrainian authorities" personally remind me of Harry Kasparov, Perelman, Kara-Murza with their movement called "Other Russia" - except for the stench nothing.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mykhalych

Personally, they remind me of Harry Kasparov, Perelman, Kara-Murza with their movement called "Other Russia" - except for the stench nothing.

"Dozhd", "Echo Moskva" Venedtktovs, sobchaks, sables.

[sgr291158]

The real help will be when the dill is puffed on snot.

[rotmistr60]

Pondering for days on how to respond ...

So I wanted to answer, as usual with a tub of slops, with the next accusations, and of course it would be nice to scare off the "aggressor". So they tried to come up with something new, but the supplies of new bile ran out so it turned out boring, usually without "enthusiasm".

[Comrade]

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Russia "could help Donbass in the only way"

Ukraine could help Donbass in the only way - to fulfill the Minsk agreements.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Comrade

Ukraine could help Donbass in the only way - to fulfill the Minsk agreements.

With the help of signatories, Germany and France

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Comrade

Ukraine could help Donbass in the only way - to fulfill the Minsk agreements.

Recognize the republics of the Lao PDR and withdraw the punitive troops from the republics.

[Pilot]

Leave alone already, not up to you. There in the Central African Republic they want to scold the local king, they need to help the brother, the autocrat ..))

[Vladimir247]

The war has been going on for 7 years. In our homeland, in the Soviet Union. Many of those sticking out here took the oath, by the way. Now ask - every hamster will refuse.
And what good can we expect from an education with the name of the Russian Federation, if all the perjurers are alone?
Is there a war in the country and nobody cares? The future is dark and scary.
With such concepts.
And after all, wherever you spit, you will get into a nickname with Soviet symbols. Here is a peled ... (such a fish).

[mark2]

Dear, you are probably a new person here and it is not decent to start pouring in a team with trolling. To shame the locals for the fact that the USSR fell stupid. They could not do anything then, and they cannot do anything now. And yes, they did not keep their vows to that country. And today they are already either pensioners, or they are preparing to become them and they have other concerns.
Those who took the oath to Russia gave it to a country where there was no longer Donbas, Ukraine itself, or the other 13 republics. To be ashamed of an alleged war in a neighboring country is doubly stupid. Russia did not start it. Perhaps she could have finished it, but with what reputational, economic and political losses? Personally, I would not like my country now to harness itself on the topic of Ukraine as an adult. A smoldering conflict, a little help for the rebels - these are the norms in the modern World. It's cynical, yes. But that's life. And ordinary people cannot change anything. It is not the people who decide, the authorities decide. It has always been and always will be.

[Vladimir247]

Well, yes, I get it. I am a new person, or not new, no difference. The main thing here is that no one even has THOUGHTS how to fulfill this oath! Otozh ... on our skins and rattled off.
Pensioners ... wow, as an excuse! Or retirees cannot hold weapons in their hands? And you don't need weapons. It is necessary to get together, a sufficient number of decisive people, and go and ask the inmates who they are and what they are doing there.
Your slogan "it was so .." reminds me of all power from God.
Even you are scared to think about it, right?
There is no neighboring country. There is an occupied Soviet Union. And no one can cancel the results of the 1991 referendum. There is no such body. There is nothing above the opinion of the people. Is that understandable?

[tralflot1832]

Victory banner

[north 2]

the concept of Deprivation of Independence should appear in Russian legislation. Prior to that, Russia should officially inform that all those whom Russia rolled on its neck in the USSR, and then threw them off its neck nobly granted them independence in 1991, all these thrown off will be prosecuted under the articles of the new Russian legislation for the fact that, in the place of construction of their independent states, they only become nests of Russophobia and fascism, with the transformation of the independence they had received from Russia into training grounds and bridgeheads for the West's aggression against Russia. Russia must declare that this new Russian legislation has the status of international law, because Russia will judge and punish those who have not taken advantage of the nobility of Russia and in the place of plowing the land and sowing, along with growing potatoes and watermelons. Yes, graze cows in your own place, in the place where you would dance your hopak or polka (which these thrown off only learned over the centuries), these not grateful in place of this build nests for the enemies of Russia, like jumping-off points for aggression against Russia, Therefore, in the new international criminal Russian code, appropriate articles should appear defining these crimes against Russia and there should be paragraphs that the punishment for these crimes against Russia, who did not use the generosity of Russia for the granted independence, is deprivation of independence. Perhaps, from the beginning, a partial deprivation of independence, and then complete. And then let the Ukrainians and the Balts think, and Lukashenka and the Moldovans, and all sorts of Poles with the rest of the Warsaw Pact countries. You do not know how, are not capable, you do not want to build your independence
otherwise, as soon as on Russophobia and hostility to Russia, so know that you will be punished for it.

[tralflot1832]

We are looking at Baderstadt across the border into the Rostov region, the combat capability of the receiver 150 SD was fully restored last year, we turn on the brains. What is the whole world with us? Today you have joyful joy, Fortune will continue laying Nord Stream 2 from January 15 in Danish waters. Gazprom shares!

[tihonmarine]

Assistance to Donbass from Russia should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

It sounds like this - the USSR could have helped Nazi Germany if it had withdrawn its troops and partisans from the territory of the USSR.

[APASUS]

And how much Zelensky could do for the country as a whole, be he a man .................

[alex-sherbakov48]

The most real help to the people of Ukraine is to keep it within the borders of 1654, which is only 4 regions in modern Ukraine. Everything else, and these are gifts from the tsars and Lenin and Stalin, must be returned to their former owners. Then all of New Russia, without the Nazis, will again return to the Russian Federation.

[Suslin]

Stop grinding water in a mortar. Dill all get impudent and impudent seeing that for all their freaks they have nothing but "Ay-ya - yay, how bad it is!" It is time to either beat the insolent face, or continue to endure and be silent.

[tarakanovaleksei]

Ukrainian authorities are like rats on a sinking ship. Ship - Ukraine is sinking, but nowhere to run.

[Vladimir247]

Dill, ... Ukrainians ... rats ... well, the Zionists work just fine ... but what, on the site, the entire team of authors is not aware that this is inciting nat. is it called discord? That this is a criminal offense, and these nicknames must be banned forever and ever? Or does the administrator get money for this, eh?
From impunity completely the roof flew away into distant distances? There is no statute of limitations for these cases ...
Your surnames are all known, fearless ...