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The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Russia "could help Donbass in the only way"

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The representatives of the Ukrainian authorities cannot come to rest after the statement of Vladimir Putin during the press conference following the results of the year. We are talking about the words of the President of Russia that the Russian Federation will continue to provide assistance to Donbass.


After pondering for several days about how to answer, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry finally declared that "this is a gross violation of Ukrainian legislation and Ukrainian territorial integrity." A strange statement from the world of parallel reality: the provision of humanitarian aid suddenly ceased to comply with the legislation of Ukraine ...

The Ukrainian ministry says how Russia could help Donbass: "It could help the only way - to stop violating international norms."

MFA of Ukraine:

Assistance to Donbass from Russia should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

At the same time, the humanitarian aid provided by Russia to hundreds of thousands of residents of Donbass, which Kiev considers its territory, was called "so-called" by the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry.

In addition, Kiev said that Russia allegedly made every effort to "block negotiations in the Normandy format."

At the same time, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, of course, does not see any destructive steps behind them. They do not comment on the ongoing economic blockade of Donbass, do not comment on the constant proposals to change the order and content of the clauses of the Minsk agreements, do not comment on the presence of foreign mercenaries and heavy equipment in Donbas, which is clearly prohibited by the same Minsk agreements.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 23 December 2020 06: 05
    +22
    The real help to Donbass will be the partition of Ukraine with the formation of Novorossiya.
    And there - either it becomes an independent state or joining Russia.
    Well, Poland is sure to cover up and bite off a piece. They are no strangers.
    Hungary and Romania will not sleep either.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 23 December 2020 06: 37
      +13
      Russia to help Donbass: “I could help the only way -
      annex to Russia
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 23 December 2020 07: 17
        +6
        Quote: Doccor18
        annex to Russia

        Attach what?
        The piece for which the battles are going?
        The broadest must be thought! Shirshe!
        1. Profiler
          Profiler 23 December 2020 07: 49
          +4
          Quote: Victor_B
          Attach what?
          The piece for which the battles are going?
          The broadest must be thought! Shirshe!


          And obviously, people there will not accept such a half-measure as the recognition of "what is" - one third of the territory of Donbass controlled by the republics.
          And such a step itself will be perceived in the world entirely as our weakness.

          You are right - to decide so to decide! yes So that for centuries.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 23 December 2020 08: 55
            +3
            Quote: Profiler
            You are right - to decide so to decide! So that for centuries.


            The episode clearly defines that half measures are not our method :

            1. Pilot
              Pilot 23 December 2020 10: 05
              0
              Quote: Insurgent
              Quote: Profiler
              You are right - to decide so to decide! So that for centuries.


              The episode clearly defines that half measures are not our method :
              We don't need nine hundred, two hundred and five hundred! (c) I hope there is no need to translate what the Russians and Ukrainians need to do so that, for centuries,.
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 23 December 2020 10: 24
                -1
                Quote: Pilot
                We don't need nine hundred, two hundred and five hundred! (c) I hope there is no need to translate what the Russians and Ukrainians need to do so that, for centuries,.

                There have been a lot of psychotropic drugs there for a long time, and you are talking about "fire water" for skakuas ...

                A fresh newcomer from the Ukrainian Armed Forces to the LPR, don't be lazy, take a look, and everything should become clear:

                1. Pilot
                  Pilot 23 December 2020 11: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  There have been a lot of psychotropic drugs there for a long time, and you are talking about "fire water" for skakuas ...
                  So not all there are skakuas and junkies and not at all, fire water, I meant - two hundred, this is a specific marking .. wink
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 23 December 2020 11: 24
                    -1
                    Quote: Pilot
                    So not all there are skakuas and junkies and not at all, fire water, I meant - two hundred, this is a specific marking ..

                    I am aware of what this marking means (scanned plates, with 2-sided lamination of excellent quality from home archives), but you also mentioned the numbers "900" and "500" in a number of figures, which critically "blurred" the idea of ​​your comment.

                    1. Pilot
                      Pilot 23 December 2020 11: 49
                      0
                      ,, 500 ,, are already drinking together, one Mr. and ,, 900 ,, already referred to your quote and video. It seems that everything is simple .. smile
                      1. krot
                        krot 23 December 2020 15: 08
                        +1
                        The Sumerians will soon get lost out of anger.
                2. boris epstein
                  boris epstein 23 December 2020 16: 47
                  +1
                  After his testimony during interrogation, his return to Ukraine would have grave consequences for him, although he did not say anything new for the LDNR intelligence. Only confirmed the available information.
                3. iouris
                  iouris 23 December 2020 16: 48
                  +1
                  Why lay it out? It is not correct.
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 24 December 2020 07: 11
                    -2
                    Quote: iouris
                    Why lay it out? It is not correct.

                    For whom? Punisher addict?
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 23 December 2020 09: 05
          +2
          Quote: Victor_B
          Quote: Doccor18
          annex to Russia

          Attach what?
          The piece for which the battles are going?
          The broadest must be thought! Shirshe!

          I am in general for the reconstruction of the USSR, but you need to start small: Crimea, Donbas ...
          1. boris epstein
            boris epstein 23 December 2020 16: 51
            +1
            But then it is impossible to allow the derban of the territory of the Ukrainian SSR from Poland, Romania, Hungary. But they are sharpening all their teeth.
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      1. krops777
        krops777 23 December 2020 08: 21
        +3
        Ancestors have been collecting the country for centuries ... have you already decided to cut?


        No need for hysterics, these ancestors planted a bomb called Ukraine, not out of malice, of course with good intentions, but what we have is what we have, and we will have to unravel this tangle of contradictions for descendants.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 08: 30
          +2
          Quote: krops777
          No need for hysterics, these ancestors planted a bomb called Ukraine, not out of malice, of course with good intentions, but what we have is what we have, and we will have to unravel this tangle of contradictions for descendants.

          There is no need to lie, "the bomb was blown up" in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, those who are now in power, both with us and with them. And their names are well known. The Yeltsin Center under Putin was built and financed from the budget. Already got enough of your "protective" lies.
          1. krops777
            krops777 23 December 2020 13: 44
            0
            Don't lie, "the bomb was blown up" in Belovezhskaya Pushcha


            Did you add the east, west and Crimea to Ukraine, too, in Belovezhskaya Pushcha?

            Understand for a start and only then draw conclusions.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 13: 49
              +2
              Quote: krops777
              Did you add the east, west and Crimea to Ukraine, too, in Belovezhskaya Pushcha?

              Who destroyed the unified state? Aren't they the ones for whom Yeltsin built the center for budget money?
              1. krops777
                krops777 23 December 2020 13: 59
                +1
                Who destroyed the unified state? Aren't they the ones for whom Yeltsin built the center for budget money?


                HM yes, probably those who were at the helm after Stalin were.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 17: 01
                  +2
                  Quote: krops777
                  HM yes, probably those who were at the helm after Stalin were.

                  You can still remember the Pechenegs and the Polovtsians.
                  1. krops777
                    krops777 23 December 2020 17: 04
                    +1
                    You can still remember the Pechenegs and the Polovtsians.


                    So I did not start about the ancestors wink
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 December 2020 08: 49
          0
          Quote: krops777
          No need for hysterics, these ancestors planted a bomb called Ukraine, not out of malice, of course, with good intentions

          "A person will not be happy with good deeds," and also "Do not do good to people, they will answer it with dirty tricks."
        3. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 29 December 2020 14: 13
          0
          The ancestors lived until 1917, and after ...
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 08: 32
        0
        Quote: Vladimir247
        Normal leaders SHOULD begin the reconstruction of the country long ago, with the unification of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.

        For this, the country must have a different socio-economic formation. Then worthy leaders will appear.
        1. Vladimir247
          Vladimir247 23 December 2020 09: 37
          0
          How will the mushrooms appear? laughing
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 10: 00
            +4
            Quote: Vladimir247
            How will the mushrooms appear?

            How did Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky appear? How many knew about them before October 1917? Who changed the socio-economic formation in RI?
            1. Vladimir247
              Vladimir247 23 December 2020 15: 59
              0
              Better to say, a revolutionary situation must mature.
              And Lenin came from the Bolshevik Party ... and now they are not there, unfortunately. Not yet.
              1. boris epstein
                boris epstein 23 December 2020 16: 56
                0
                Well, actually there is. The All-Union Communist Party of the Bolsheviks, created at the end of perestroika by the late Nina Alexandrovna Andreeva, peace be upon her. True, the party is small in number, but clean from all sorts of bouncers.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 17: 06
                  +1
                  Quote: Boris Epstein
                  Well, actually there is. The All-Union Communist Party of the Bolsheviks, created at the end of perestroika by the late Nina Alexandrovna Andreeva, peace be upon her. True, the party is small in number, but clean from all sorts of bouncers.

                  There are other small parties, but they will never become parliamentary.
                  1. boris epstein
                    boris epstein 23 December 2020 17: 11
                    0
                    But this is not necessary. Lenin said that the RSDLP (b) can have a minimum fraction in the elected government bodies only to declare its position, but not take part in the voting. And at first there was such a faction in the State Duma of the Russian Empire. But she was sent to hard labor in FULL composition.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 17: 19
                      +2
                      Quote: Boris Epstein
                      But this is not necessary. Lenin said ...

                      Yes it is, but the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (although they are rather Mensheviks) needs the same, if only because you can use their parliamentary requests, etc. Grassroots organizations are open to cooperation. I like the position of their deputy Bondarenko.
                      1. boris epstein
                        boris epstein 23 December 2020 17: 25
                        0
                        You see, those in power use everything to disavow the faction of the AUCPB or any similar party. Doesn't Grudinin's example tell you anything? But he is far from a Bolshevik. Or Platoshkin? After all, Platoshkin is many times more literate than Grudinin. Therefore, he got it more seriously. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation completely agrees with your assessment.
                      2. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 17: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris Epstein
                        You see, those in power ...

                        There will be no unification from the bottom, it will be like in Ukraine. Platoshkin's example is very indicative in terms of what happens if a party (movement) "closes in" on only one person.
                      3. boris epstein
                        boris epstein 23 December 2020 17: 47
                        0
                        Unification from below ... Yes, it would be nice ... But remember the story of how the RSDLP, which was united at that time, was divided into Bolsheviks and Mensheviks .. Respectively, the lower classes were also divided.
                2. Vladimir247
                  Vladimir247 23 December 2020 17: 24
                  +1
                  We remember the whole story. No, there is certainly a ton of useful and useful things out there by now. But reality must also be taken into account. The communist idea is now in the fold. But the idea of ​​the responsibility of the authorities is like for everyone. And the idea of ​​restoring the Union is also acceptable to the majority. I don't know what about the idea of ​​fulfilling the oath given to the Soviet people, but also, I think, very many will not reject this idea. Somehow it would be necessary to unite around this. Even Strelkov, on the basis of the Soviet oath, tried to organize something in the Donbass. But what a terry monarchist.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 17: 32
                    +1
                    We will not have unification from the bottom, it will be like in Ukraine. Because the position at the top is becoming more and more precarious.
                  2. boris epstein
                    boris epstein 23 December 2020 17: 39
                    0
                    The Soviet oath ... Yes, I also took it. And he did not refuse it. But I, a private stock guard for 1991, and millions like me WITHOUT an organizing center, what could they do? Remind you of the incompetent GKChP? In addition, think about how old are now taking the Soviet oath? At least fifty each.
                    "The communist idea is now in the pen." But this is to be corrected by the current generation, and we will help as much as we can.
                  3. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 17: 47
                    +1
                    Quote: Boris Epstein
                    "The communist idea is now in the pen." But this is to be corrected by the current generation, and we will help as much as we can.

                    You are wrong, leftist ideas are more popular today than they were 5 years ago. With the impoverishment of the population, they only become more popular.
                  4. boris epstein
                    boris epstein 23 December 2020 18: 08
                    -1
                    About the quote "The communist idea is now in the pen." Its author is not me, but the user Vladimir247, and I have already answered that. Claim to the wrong address. There are many leftists. And it's very bad. Sainkov's left Socialist-Revolutionaries, anarchists, social democrats of the outskirts of the Russian Empire were also leftists. But the Savinkaites, the Right Socialist-Revolutionaries, the Mensheviks, went with the whites, the social democrats of the outskirts became nationalists, the anarchists also rushed to extremes. After all, now the picture is the same, only Lenin and Stalin are gone. But how many jerks ?! There is such a Elena Pozdnyakova. She betrayed the theory that the peasantry, WITHOUT the Bolsheviks and Lenin, carried out the Great October Revolution and won the civil war. What is demagogy? Before the October Revolution, the influence of the Right Socialist-Revolutionaries was very strong in the peasantry.
                  5. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 23 December 2020 18: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: Boris Epstein
                    About the quote "The communist idea is now in the pen." Its author is not me ...

                    In many ways, I agree with you. But we will receive a warning for a flood. Therefore, write in a personal, if that. hi
                  6. boris epstein
                    boris epstein 23 December 2020 18: 43
                    0
                    I understood you. Good. Although our conversation is quite informative and civilized.
  • Kara
    Kara 23 December 2020 06: 55
    +17
    The Ukrainian ministry says how Russia could help Donbass: "It could help the only way - to stop violating international norms"

    And it sounds like: "Well, give up, eh?"
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 December 2020 06: 13
    +9
    Assistance to Donbass from Russia should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 28
      +4
      Quote: NDR-791
      should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

      In other words, give up to be torn apart
      Shchazzzzz, you can't wait!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 December 2020 09: 01
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        In other words, give up to be torn apart
        Shchazzzzz, you can't wait!

        They are bloodthirsty, these Sumerian.
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 15
    +1
    At the same time, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, of course, does not see any destructive steps behind them. They do not comment on the ongoing economic blockade of Donbass, do not comment on the constant proposals to change the order and content of the clauses of the Minsk agreements, do not comment on the presence of foreign mercenaries and heavy equipment in Donbas, which is clearly prohibited by the same Minsk agreements.

    In a word, they violate everything that can be violated with the connivance of the signatories of the Minsk agreements, Germany and France
  • Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 23 December 2020 06: 16
    +7
    All these so-called "representatives of the Ukrainian authorities" personally remind me of Harry Kasparov, Perelman, Kara-Murza with their movement called "Other Russia" - except for the stench nothing.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 December 2020 09: 03
      +3
      Quote: Mykhalych
      Personally, they remind me of Harry Kasparov, Perelman, Kara-Murza with their movement called "Other Russia" - except for the stench nothing.

      "Dozhd", "Echo Moskva" Venedtktovs, sobchaks, sables.
  • sgr291158
    sgr291158 23 December 2020 06: 16
    +8
    The real help will be when the dill is puffed on snot.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 December 2020 06: 18
    +5
    Pondering for days on how to respond ...
    So I wanted to answer, as usual with a tub of slops, with the next accusations, and of course it would be nice to scare off the "aggressor". So they tried to come up with something new, but the supplies of new bile ran out so it turned out boring, usually without "enthusiasm".
  • Comrade
    Comrade 23 December 2020 06: 19
    +4
    The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Russia "could help Donbass in the only way"

    Ukraine could help Donbass in the only way - to fulfill the Minsk agreements.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 37
      0
      Quote: Comrade
      Ukraine could help Donbass in the only way - to fulfill the Minsk agreements.

      With the help of signatories, Germany and France
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 December 2020 09: 05
      +1
      Quote: Comrade
      Ukraine could help Donbass in the only way - to fulfill the Minsk agreements.

      Recognize the republics of the Lao PDR and withdraw the punitive troops from the republics.
  • Pilot
    Pilot 23 December 2020 06: 20
    -18%
    Leave alone already, not up to you. There in the Central African Republic they want to scold the local king, they need to help the brother, the autocrat ..))
  • Vladimir247
    Vladimir247 23 December 2020 06: 51
    -11%
    The war has been going on for 7 years. In our homeland, in the Soviet Union. Many of those sticking out here took the oath, by the way. Now ask - every hamster will refuse.
    And what good can we expect from an education with the name of the Russian Federation, if all the perjurers are alone?
    Is there a war in the country and nobody cares? The future is dark and scary.
    With such concepts.
    And after all, wherever you spit, you will get into a nickname with Soviet symbols. Here is a peled ... (such a fish). wassat
    1. mark2
      mark2 23 December 2020 08: 05
      +3
      Dear, you are probably a new person here and it is not decent to start pouring in a team with trolling. To shame the locals for the fact that the USSR fell stupid. They could not do anything then, and they cannot do anything now. And yes, they did not keep their vows to that country. And today they are already either pensioners, or they are preparing to become them and they have other concerns.
      Those who took the oath to Russia gave it to a country where there was no longer Donbas, Ukraine itself, or the other 13 republics. To be ashamed of an alleged war in a neighboring country is doubly stupid. Russia did not start it. Perhaps she could have finished it, but with what reputational, economic and political losses? Personally, I would not like my country now to harness itself on the topic of Ukraine as an adult. A smoldering conflict, a little help for the rebels - these are the norms in the modern World. It's cynical, yes. But that's life. And ordinary people cannot change anything. It is not the people who decide, the authorities decide. It has always been and always will be.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 23 December 2020 09: 26
        +2
        Well, yes, I get it. I am a new person, or not new, no difference. The main thing here is that no one even has THOUGHTS how to fulfill this oath! Otozh ... on our skins and rattled off.
        Pensioners ... wow, as an excuse! Or retirees cannot hold weapons in their hands? And you don't need weapons. It is necessary to get together, a sufficient number of decisive people, and go and ask the inmates who they are and what they are doing there.
        Your slogan "it was so .." reminds me of all power from God. laughing
        Even you are scared to think about it, right? laughing
        There is no neighboring country. There is an occupied Soviet Union. And no one can cancel the results of the 1991 referendum. There is no such body. There is nothing above the opinion of the people. Is that understandable?
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 December 2020 07: 16
    +1
    Victory banner
  • north 2
    north 2 23 December 2020 07: 36
    -1
    the concept of Deprivation of Independence should appear in Russian legislation. Prior to that, Russia should officially inform that all those whom Russia rolled on its neck in the USSR, and then threw them off its neck nobly granted them independence in 1991, all these thrown off will be prosecuted under the articles of the new Russian legislation for the fact that, in the place of construction of their independent states, they only become nests of Russophobia and fascism, with the transformation of the independence they had received from Russia into training grounds and bridgeheads for the West's aggression against Russia. Russia must declare that this new Russian legislation has the status of international law, because Russia will judge and punish those who have not taken advantage of the nobility of Russia and in the place of plowing the land and sowing, along with growing potatoes and watermelons. Yes, graze cows in your own place, in the place where you would dance your hopak or polka (which these thrown off only learned over the centuries), these not grateful in place of this build nests for the enemies of Russia, like jumping-off points for aggression against Russia, Therefore, in the new international criminal Russian code, appropriate articles should appear defining these crimes against Russia and there should be paragraphs that the punishment for these crimes against Russia, who did not use the generosity of Russia for the granted independence, is deprivation of independence. Perhaps, from the beginning, a partial deprivation of independence, and then complete. And then let the Ukrainians and the Balts think, and Lukashenka and the Moldovans, and all sorts of Poles with the rest of the Warsaw Pact countries. You do not know how, are not capable, you do not want to build your independence
    otherwise, as soon as on Russophobia and hostility to Russia, so know that you will be punished for it.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 December 2020 07: 45
    -3
    We are looking at Baderstadt across the border into the Rostov region, the combat capability of the receiver 150 SD was fully restored last year, we turn on the brains. What is the whole world with us? Today you have joyful joy, Fortune will continue laying Nord Stream 2 from January 15 in Danish waters. Gazprom shares! wassat
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 23 December 2020 08: 45
    +2
    Assistance to Donbass from Russia should consist in the withdrawal of troops and mercenaries from the temporarily occupied territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.

    It sounds like this - the USSR could have helped Nazi Germany if it had withdrawn its troops and partisans from the territory of the USSR.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 23 December 2020 09: 19
    +1
    And how much Zelensky could do for the country as a whole, be he a man .................
  • alex-sherbakov48
    alex-sherbakov48 23 December 2020 15: 25
    +1
    The most real help to the people of Ukraine is to keep it within the borders of 1654, which is only 4 regions in modern Ukraine. Everything else, and these are gifts from the tsars and Lenin and Stalin, must be returned to their former owners. Then all of New Russia, without the Nazis, will again return to the Russian Federation.
  • Suslin
    Suslin 23 December 2020 16: 59
    +1
    Stop grinding water in a mortar. Dill all get impudent and impudent seeing that for all their freaks they have nothing but "Ay-ya - yay, how bad it is!" It is time to either beat the insolent face, or continue to endure and be silent.
  • tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 23 December 2020 18: 46
    -1
    Ukrainian authorities are like rats on a sinking ship. Ship - Ukraine is sinking, but nowhere to run.
    1. Vladimir247
      Vladimir247 24 December 2020 04: 40
      -1
      Dill, ... Ukrainians ... rats ... well, the Zionists work just fine ... but what, on the site, the entire team of authors is not aware that this is inciting nat. is it called discord? That this is a criminal offense, and these nicknames must be banned forever and ever? Or does the administrator get money for this, eh?
      From impunity completely the roof flew away into distant distances? There is no statute of limitations for these cases ... laughing
      Your surnames are all known, fearless ... laughing