American carrier-based fighter F / A-18E Super Hornet tested from a springboard

American carrier-based fighter F / A-18E Super Hornet was tested from a springboard. As stated in the aircraft manufacturer Boeing, the fighter is being prepared for a tender by the Indian Navy for the supply of carrier-based fighters for a new Indian aircraft carrier.

The tests are being carried out on a ground jump built at the US Naval Air Station Patuxent River in Maryland. The aircraft made its first takeoffs without a payload in the form of additional fuel tanks and weapons. The timing of the tests with a full load has not yet been reported.

Boeing noted that the F / A-18E Super Hornet carrier-based fighter was originally designed to take off from conventional ground airfields or from the deck of an aircraft carrier using a catapult. The possibility of a shortened takeoff using a springboard was not envisaged, since the US Navy is armed with aircraft carriers classified as CATOBAR. At the same time, Indian aircraft carriers belong to the STOBAR class.

CATOBAR (Catapult Assisted Take Off But Arrested Recovery) - the plane takes off with the help of a catapult, and the landing is carried out using the air arrestor. (US aircraft carriers, "Charles de Gaulle" France)

STOBAR (Short Take Off But Arrested Landing) take off is carried out with a short takeoff run using a springboard, landing takes place on an air arrestor. (aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov").

Earlier, the Indian Ministry of Defense announced the start of a tender for the supply of 57 carrier-based fighters for its Vikrant and Vishal aircraft carriers. Moreover, if the "Vikrant" was built by India in the image and likeness of the first Indian aircraft carrier "Vikramaditya", the former Soviet aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Gorshkov", then "Vishal" is built without a springboard and with catapults.

Comments

[figwam]

It is unclear from what distance he took off.

[iouris]

He took off from a magic kick.

[figwam]

Yes, the length of the run is not visible.

Our F / A-18 #SuperHornet demonstrates the ability to operate from @indiannavy aircraft carriers during its successful and safe launch from a ski-jump ramp. pic.twitter.com/92V14EXV9M

- Boeing India (@Boeing_In) December 21, 2020

Su-33 can take off from a short distance even on the brakes.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: figvam

Yes, the length of the run is not visible

probably, it is not difficult to guess that it should be no more than the one that allows the starting positions No. 1 and No. 2 of an Indian aircraft carrier (90 meters)

Quote: figvam

Su-33 can take off from a short distance even on the brakes

No plane takes off with its brakes on. The brakes are used to hold the aircraft in place until takeoff.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Gregory_45

No plane takes off with its brakes on. The brakes are used to hold the aircraft in place until takeoff.

I was surprised myself, but I watched the video from 29 seconds ... and my jaw dropped!
Braking distance, with a haze, from the screen to the end of the springboard !!! And Air Drying! Well, her dviguns on the afterburner ... Power!

[Grigory_45]

The brakes are over, thanks to the pilot) An airplane without weapons and certainly with far from full tanks - that's why it could. The thrust-to-weight ratio is noticeably more than 1.
From close positions the Su-33 leaves with a full ammo, but with half the fuel supply (max. Takeoff 28 tons) - naturally, with the brakes released.

[NEOZ]

Quote: figvam

Su-33 can take off from a short distance even on the brakes.

they just don't produce su33 ....

[Land defence]

Well it took off and took off ... There were doubts ?.
The main dispute will be about the price of the car.

[6erJIblu]

Still, sit down without problems)

[halpat]

Quote: Kara

Well it took off and took off ... There were doubts ?.
The main dispute will be about the price of the car.

As practice shows :) the main dispute they have is for "baksheesh" when buying. And the price is the tenth thing :) the scandal will still be raised by those with whom they did not share.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Halpat

As practice shows :) the main dispute they have is for "bakshish" when buying.

in reality, we are talking about the% of the American market, which will be replaced by goods from the PRC.

[iouris]

Quote: Kara

Well it took off and took off ... There were doubts ?.

Apparently there were, since the springboard was built. It is more difficult to land on the springboard. It is strange that they did not experience it. Interestingly, will the Soviet aerial officer work with enemy aircraft?

[Avior]

Do they sit on the springboard?

[Rusticolus]

When landing, as I understand it, it makes no difference whether there is a springboard or not. And here and there an aerofinisher. So I think Soviet finishers will do, of course, when fitting under the weight. Takeoff is the problem. Traction, to have time to pick up speed only at the expense of the engines + will the racks withstand, especially if you miss the finisher. There, the vertical load will be healthy.

[Avior]

When landing, there can be no problems, the f-18 was originally a deck boat for the finish, ideas from a few modern deck boats. With a springboard, the load on the racks is slightly different than when starting from a catapult - yes, but I don't know how critical it is

[Crimean partisan 1974]

With a springboard, the load on the racks is slightly different than when starting from a catapult - yes, but I don't know how critical it is ....... most likely not critical .... FA-18 initially had a chassis hydraulic system of 20 atmospheres, this is higher all existing ... maintenance is another matter. it will be Indians produced or free by merchant !!! in any case, the Canadians of the Kiev junta offered hornets for a gift. but with their own huntyar payment. the huntjars counted iiiiii, understood what a fly in the ointment ... and the Indians have to

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Avior

When jumping, the load on the posts is slightly different.

on the nose pillar it is lower than with the ejection launch. Those. The Hornet, originally designed for acceleration by a catapult shuttle, will take off and land on the Kuznetsov-type AV without questioning the strength of the chassis.

[Avior]

At the time of takeoff from the springboard, another load on the stands - the springboard changes its trajectory
In principle, the F-18, like a deck boat, has a large margin, designed for landing with a relatively high vertical speed - there are similar loads, so I don't think that the springboard will create problems

[Grigory_45]

Quote: iouris

Getting on the trampoline is more difficult

how is it - to sit on the springboard?

Quote: iouris

and the Soviet aerial officer will work with enemy aircraft

what can stop him? All ship's cable finishers are made according to the same principle, different settings for each specific aircraft, and that's it. How does that work with Rafals

[hydrox]

Indians here generally just ran around.
There were rumors that the Yankees were staring at light aircraft carriers (such as Kuzi), and that Putin was to blame!
Why did you send the MiG-31K detachment into exile in Chukotka? Right now, the sworn friends are washing their pants, but there is nowhere to rinse them - they have little fresh water in Alaska, and it is difficult to access in winter ...

[Grigory_45]

Quote: hydrox

Indians here generally just ran alongside

Super Hornet participated in an Indian tender for the supply of fighters for their aircraft carrier. Since Vikramaditya is identical in architecture to Kuznetsov, it has a springboard instead of catapults, and therefore all participating aircraft must provide takeoff from the springboard.

Quote: hydrox

Yankes are staring at light aircraft carriers

Hornet's run and run are too big for a small aircraft carrier (when using a finisher and a catapult - 90 meters each). And why arrange dances with him, if there is an F-35B

Quote: hydrox

light aircraft carriers (Kuzi type)

Is Kuznetsov a light aircraft carrier?)) 55 thousand tons - more than that of the French "Charles de Gaulle". Light AB is 20-35 thousand tons

[hydrox]

Fir-trees!
It turns out that our liberda sits in those pants, like those that bite - and minus!

[ZEMCH]

Quote: Gregory_45

All ship's cable finishers are made according to the same principle, different settings for each specific aircraft, and that's it. How does that work with Rafals

Here you are right! Adjustment only for the weight of the landing aircraft, there is a difficulty in the landing control system, without it it is difficult for pilots to land, usually they fight against the stern or on the second or more approaches)))

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Kara

Well it took off and took off ... Any doubts?

here it is important to show in practice, with your own eyes - yes, it takes off! Although, no one doubted the abilities of "Super". If his ancestor, "Hornet", flew from the springboard without problems.

[Note]

This is a test within the concept of building small aircraft carriers, and indium is so for the background.

[Note]

Information background.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Note

small aircraft carrier concepts

why not use the catapult on small aircraft carriers?

[Note]

Well, of course you can, only then the small will turn into an ordinary large

[NEOZ]

Quote: Note

only then small

and what is this small? give an example.

[Note]

Well, what are you? See for yourself the projects in the USA. Well, or Japan has helicopter carriers, landing ships that can be used as aircraft carriers, if necessary, with aircraft with a short range.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Note

helicopter carriers landing ships that can be used as aircraft carriers, if necessary, with aircraft with a short range.

only they cannot be used to operate a superhornet ...

Quote: Note

See for yourself the projects in the USA.

looked ... found nothing ...
but the Avik "Forrestal" had a displacement of 60 tons and there were catapults ... in the 1950s ...

[Note]

They are going to build up to 45-50 thousand tons. At the same time, it is necessary to place an aircraft fleet of at least 30 units. The helicopter fleet is about 15 units. Well, there is nowhere to put the catapult, and it is very expensive. In addition, the calculation was for f 35, and f 18 as an addition, so they can check whether or not.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Note

They are going to build up to 45-50 thousand tons.

Avik without an AWACS aircraft?
By the way, ShdeG is just 40mm !!!! quite suitable !!!
it's really atomic ... and with a catapult ...

[Note]

I don't know how they are going to solve the problem with the drlo plane. Ask?

[Note]

They want something not atomic. And Charles de Gaulle is not a good example at all.

[Note]

And in general, they seemed to be going to give up steam catapults, but they are not very good with electromagnetic ones yet.

[Note]

And there are not many planes on de Gaulle

[NEOZ]

Quote: Note

And there are not many planes on de Gaulle

well from not very old:
French "foch" ..... and he is with catapults ....

[Note]

In general, this is a whim of American customers and consumers. Probably it would be better with a catapult, although how it will be in fact does not matter

[Note]

They are working on the concepts of various ships, including those with a springboard, so what for us

[NEOZ]

Quote: Note

what does it matter to us

they say that catapults do not work well in northern latitudes ...

[Note]

Ahhh ... That's what you mean. They say all the equipment is not so hot as it works in the northern latitudes. And especially American ;-)

[SovAr238A]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Note

what does it matter to us

they say that catapults do not work well in northern latitudes ...

They lie.
The planes flew in the Barents Sea in training at maximum pace.
If I am not mistaken, this is 250 flights a day.

[EnGenius]

Meanwhile, Rafal is not excluded from this tender. I believe that the F-18 will have to compete with the Rafale. If there is not enough money, they can always buy a MiG-29KUB.

[Old26]

Quote: iouris

It is more difficult to land on the springboard.

And someone sits on the springboard?

[Grigory_45]

American carrier-based fighter F / A-18E Super Hornet tested from a springboard

Hornets flew from the springboard 20 years before the Indian tender.

Aircraft can be operated from short runways, provided they have a springboard and a mobile air guard (the Americans have such, but on Hornets, even purely land ones, the landing hook was not removed

[silverwolf88]

understandable as soon as they experience takeoff from the springboard))) ... this is a tender in India ... and even now I won't be surprised if he wins the deck fighter competition ... dancing and dancing again ...

[Bersaglieri]

With an "eye" on India, of course.