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American carrier-based fighter F / A-18E Super Hornet tested from a springboard

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American carrier-based fighter F / A-18E Super Hornet tested from a springboard

American carrier-based fighter F / A-18E Super Hornet was tested from a springboard. As stated in the aircraft manufacturer Boeing, the fighter is being prepared for a tender by the Indian Navy for the supply of carrier-based fighters for a new Indian aircraft carrier.


The tests are being carried out on a ground jump built at the US Naval Air Station Patuxent River in Maryland. The aircraft made its first takeoffs without a payload in the form of additional fuel tanks and weapons. The timing of the tests with a full load has not yet been reported.

Boeing noted that the F / A-18E Super Hornet carrier-based fighter was originally designed to take off from conventional ground airfields or from the deck of an aircraft carrier using a catapult. The possibility of a shortened takeoff using a springboard was not envisaged, since the US Navy is armed with aircraft carriers classified as CATOBAR. At the same time, Indian aircraft carriers belong to the STOBAR class.

CATOBAR (Catapult Assisted Take Off But Arrested Recovery) - the plane takes off with the help of a catapult, and the landing is carried out using the air arrestor. (US aircraft carriers, "Charles de Gaulle" France)

STOBAR (Short Take Off But Arrested Landing) take off is carried out with a short takeoff run using a springboard, landing takes place on an air arrestor. (aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov").

Earlier, the Indian Ministry of Defense announced the start of a tender for the supply of 57 carrier-based fighters for its Vikrant and Vishal aircraft carriers. Moreover, if the "Vikrant" was built by India in the image and likeness of the first Indian aircraft carrier "Vikramaditya", the former Soviet aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Gorshkov", then "Vishal" is built without a springboard and with catapults.
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  1. figwam
    figwam 22 December 2020 15: 41
    -2
    It is unclear from what distance he took off.
    1. iouris
      iouris 22 December 2020 15: 44
      -7
      He took off from a magic kick.
    2. figwam
      figwam 22 December 2020 16: 14
      +2
      Yes, the length of the run is not visible.


      Su-33 can take off from a short distance even on the brakes.

      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 22 December 2020 19: 35
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        Quote: figvam
        Yes, the length of the run is not visible

        probably, it is not difficult to guess that it should be no more than the one that allows the starting positions No. 1 and No. 2 of an Indian aircraft carrier (90 meters)
        Quote: figvam
        Su-33 can take off from a short distance even on the brakes

        No plane takes off with its brakes on. The brakes are used to hold the aircraft in place until takeoff.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 22 December 2020 22: 22
          +4
          Quote: Gregory_45
          No plane takes off with its brakes on. The brakes are used to hold the aircraft in place until takeoff.

          I was surprised myself, but I watched the video from 29 seconds ... and my jaw dropped!
          Braking distance, with a haze, from the screen to the end of the springboard !!! And Air Drying! Well, her dviguns on the afterburner ... Power! good
          1. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 22 December 2020 22: 51
            +1
            The brakes are over, thanks to the pilot) An airplane without weapons and certainly with far from full tanks - that's why it could. The thrust-to-weight ratio is noticeably more than 1.
            From close positions the Su-33 leaves with a full ammo, but with half the fuel supply (max. Takeoff 28 tons) - naturally, with the brakes released.
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 23 December 2020 12: 22
        +2
        Quote: figvam
        Su-33 can take off from a short distance even on the brakes.

        they just don't produce su33 ....
  2. Kara
    Kara 22 December 2020 15: 45
    +15
    Well it took off and took off ... There were doubts ?.
    The main dispute will be about the price of the car.
    1. 6erJIblu
      6erJIblu 22 December 2020 16: 03
      -5
      Still, sit down without problems)
    2. halpat
      halpat 22 December 2020 16: 34
      +1
      Quote: Kara
      Well it took off and took off ... There were doubts ?.
      The main dispute will be about the price of the car.

      As practice shows :) the main dispute they have is for "baksheesh" when buying. And the price is the tenth thing :) the scandal will still be raised by those with whom they did not share.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 23 December 2020 12: 25
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        Quote: Halpat
        As practice shows :) the main dispute they have is for "bakshish" when buying.

        in reality, we are talking about the% of the American market, which will be replaced by goods from the PRC.
    3. iouris
      iouris 22 December 2020 16: 40
      -7
      Quote: Kara
      Well it took off and took off ... There were doubts ?.

      Apparently there were, since the springboard was built. It is more difficult to land on the springboard. It is strange that they did not experience it. Interestingly, will the Soviet aerial officer work with enemy aircraft?
      1. Avior
        Avior 22 December 2020 16: 46
        +4
        Do they sit on the springboard?
        1. Rusticolus
          Rusticolus 22 December 2020 19: 48
          +1
          When landing, as I understand it, it makes no difference whether there is a springboard or not. And here and there an aerofinisher. So I think Soviet finishers will do, of course, when fitting under the weight. Takeoff is the problem. Traction, to have time to pick up speed only at the expense of the engines + will the racks withstand, especially if you miss the finisher. There, the vertical load will be healthy.
          1. Avior
            Avior 22 December 2020 20: 06
            +5
            When landing, there can be no problems, the f-18 was originally a deck boat for the finish, ideas from a few modern deck boats. With a springboard, the load on the racks is slightly different than when starting from a catapult - yes, but I don't know how critical it is
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 22 December 2020 20: 36
              -2
              With a springboard, the load on the racks is slightly different than when starting from a catapult - yes, but I don't know how critical it is ....... most likely not critical .... FA-18 initially had a chassis hydraulic system of 20 atmospheres, this is higher all existing ... maintenance is another matter. it will be Indians produced or free by merchant !!! in any case, the Canadians of the Kiev junta offered hornets for a gift. but with their own huntyar payment. the huntjars counted iiiiii, understood what a fly in the ointment ... and the Indians have to
            2. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 22 December 2020 21: 02
              +2
              Quote: Avior
              When jumping, the load on the posts is slightly different.

              on the nose pillar it is lower than with the ejection launch. Those. The Hornet, originally designed for acceleration by a catapult shuttle, will take off and land on the Kuznetsov-type AV without questioning the strength of the chassis.
              1. Avior
                Avior 22 December 2020 21: 16
                +1
                At the time of takeoff from the springboard, another load on the stands - the springboard changes its trajectory
                In principle, the F-18, like a deck boat, has a large margin, designed for landing with a relatively high vertical speed - there are similar loads, so I don't think that the springboard will create problems
      2. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 22 December 2020 19: 27
        0
        Quote: iouris
        Getting on the trampoline is more difficult

        how is it - to sit on the springboard?
        Quote: iouris
        and the Soviet aerial officer will work with enemy aircraft

        what can stop him? All ship's cable finishers are made according to the same principle, different settings for each specific aircraft, and that's it. How does that work with Rafals
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 22 December 2020 20: 32
          -7
          Indians here generally just ran around.
          There were rumors that the Yankees were staring at light aircraft carriers (such as Kuzi), and that Putin was to blame!
          Why did you send the MiG-31K detachment into exile in Chukotka? Right now, the sworn friends are washing their pants, but there is nowhere to rinse them - they have little fresh water in Alaska, and it is difficult to access in winter ... laughing
          1. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 22 December 2020 20: 57
            +1
            Quote: hydrox
            Indians here generally just ran alongside

            Super Hornet participated in an Indian tender for the supply of fighters for their aircraft carrier. Since Vikramaditya is identical in architecture to Kuznetsov, it has a springboard instead of catapults, and therefore all participating aircraft must provide takeoff from the springboard.
            Quote: hydrox
            Yankes are staring at light aircraft carriers

            Hornet's run and run are too big for a small aircraft carrier (when using a finisher and a catapult - 90 meters each). And why arrange dances with him, if there is an F-35B
            Quote: hydrox
            light aircraft carriers (Kuzi type)

            Is Kuznetsov a light aircraft carrier?)) 55 thousand tons - more than that of the French "Charles de Gaulle". Light AB is 20-35 thousand tons
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 23 December 2020 21: 56
            0
            Fir-trees!
            It turns out that our liberda sits in those pants, like those that bite - and minus! laughing
        2. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 23 December 2020 03: 15
          -1
          Quote: Gregory_45
          All ship's cable finishers are made according to the same principle, different settings for each specific aircraft, and that's it. How does that work with Rafals

          Here you are right! Adjustment only for the weight of the landing aircraft, there is a difficulty in the landing control system, without it it is difficult for pilots to land, usually they fight against the stern or on the second or more approaches)))
    4. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 22 December 2020 19: 29
      +1
      Quote: Kara
      Well it took off and took off ... Any doubts?

      here it is important to show in practice, with your own eyes - yes, it takes off! Although, no one doubted the abilities of "Super". If his ancestor, "Hornet", flew from the springboard without problems.
  3. Note
    Note 22 December 2020 16: 12
    -2
    This is a test within the concept of building small aircraft carriers, and indium is so for the background.
    1. Note
      Note 22 December 2020 16: 12
      -1
      Information background.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 23 December 2020 12: 33
      0
      Quote: Note
      small aircraft carrier concepts

      why not use the catapult on small aircraft carriers?
      1. Note
        Note 23 December 2020 12: 40
        0
        Well, of course you can, only then the small will turn into an ordinary large
        1. NEOZ
          NEOZ 23 December 2020 12: 41
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          Quote: Note
          only then small

          and what is this small? give an example.
          1. Note
            Note 23 December 2020 12: 45
            0
            Well, what are you? See for yourself the projects in the USA. Well, or Japan has helicopter carriers, landing ships that can be used as aircraft carriers, if necessary, with aircraft with a short range.
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 23 December 2020 12: 51
              0
              Quote: Note
              helicopter carriers landing ships that can be used as aircraft carriers, if necessary, with aircraft with a short range.

              only they cannot be used to operate a superhornet ...
              Quote: Note
              See for yourself the projects in the USA.

              looked ... found nothing ...
              but the Avik "Forrestal" had a displacement of 60 tons and there were catapults ... in the 1950s ...
              1. Note
                Note 23 December 2020 12: 56
                0
                They are going to build up to 45-50 thousand tons. At the same time, it is necessary to place an aircraft fleet of at least 30 units. The helicopter fleet is about 15 units. Well, there is nowhere to put the catapult, and it is very expensive. In addition, the calculation was for f 35, and f 18 as an addition, so they can check whether or not.
                1. NEOZ
                  NEOZ 23 December 2020 12: 59
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                  Quote: Note
                  They are going to build up to 45-50 thousand tons.

                  Avik without an AWACS aircraft?
                  By the way, ShdeG is just 40mm !!!! quite suitable !!!
                  it's really atomic ... and with a catapult ...
                  1. Note
                    Note 23 December 2020 13: 00
                    0
                    I don't know how they are going to solve the problem with the drlo plane. Ask?
                  2. Note
                    Note 23 December 2020 13: 03
                    0
                    They want something not atomic. And Charles de Gaulle is not a good example at all.
                  3. Note
                    Note 23 December 2020 13: 09
                    0
                    And in general, they seemed to be going to give up steam catapults, but they are not very good with electromagnetic ones yet.
                2. Note
                  Note 23 December 2020 13: 04
                  0
                  And there are not many planes on de Gaulle
                  1. NEOZ
                    NEOZ 23 December 2020 13: 20
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                    Quote: Note
                    And there are not many planes on de Gaulle

                    well from not very old:
                    French "foch" ..... and he is with catapults ....
                    1. Note
                      Note 23 December 2020 13: 39
                      0
                      In general, this is a whim of American customers and consumers. Probably it would be better with a catapult, although how it will be in fact does not matter
                    2. Note
                      Note 23 December 2020 13: 45
                      0
                      They are working on the concepts of various ships, including those with a springboard, so what for us
                      1. NEOZ
                        NEOZ 23 December 2020 14: 08
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                        Quote: Note
                        what does it matter to us

                        they say that catapults do not work well in northern latitudes ...
                      2. Note
                        Note 23 December 2020 14: 50
                        0
                        Ahhh ... That's what you mean. They say all the equipment is not so hot as it works in the northern latitudes. And especially American ;-)
                      3. SovAr238A
                        SovAr238A 23 December 2020 19: 09
                        -1
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        Quote: Note
                        what does it matter to us

                        they say that catapults do not work well in northern latitudes ...

                        They lie.
                        The planes flew in the Barents Sea in training at maximum pace.
                        If I am not mistaken, this is 250 flights a day.
  • EnGenius
    EnGenius 22 December 2020 16: 48
    +2
    Meanwhile, Rafal is not excluded from this tender. I believe that the F-18 will have to compete with the Rafale. If there is not enough money, they can always buy a MiG-29KUB.
  • Old26
    Old26 22 December 2020 17: 15
    +1
    Quote: iouris
    It is more difficult to land on the springboard.

    And someone sits on the springboard?
  • Grigory_45
    Grigory_45 22 December 2020 19: 25
    +5
    American carrier-based fighter F / A-18E Super Hornet tested from a springboard
    Hornets flew from the springboard 20 years before the Indian tender.


    Aircraft can be operated from short runways, provided they have a springboard and a mobile air guard (the Americans have such, but on Hornets, even purely land ones, the landing hook was not removed
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 22 December 2020 20: 28
    0
    understandable as soon as they experience takeoff from the springboard))) ... this is a tender in India ... and even now I won't be surprised if he wins the deck fighter competition ... dancing and dancing again ...
  • Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 23 December 2020 12: 09
    0
    With an "eye" on India, of course.