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The new promising Russian turboprop Il-114-300 made its first flight

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The new promising Russian turboprop Il-114-300 made its first flight

The new IL-114-300 regional passenger turboprop aircraft made its first flight. The flight took place from the Zhukovsky airfield. This was reported by the press service of Rostec.


Reportedly, during the first flight, the operation of the power plant, the stability and controllability of the aircraft, as well as the functioning of its systems were tested. The aircraft was piloted by a crew consisting of chief pilot of PJSC "IL", first class test pilot Nikolai Kuimov and first class test pilot Dmitry Komarov, first class test flight engineer Oleg Gryazev.

The Il-114-300 passenger aircraft is designed for operation on local airlines and is an upgraded version of the Il-114 turboprop aircraft. It is expected that the newest Il-114-300 will replace the aging An-24 and a number of similar foreign aircraft. It is capable of carrying up to 68 passengers over a distance of up to 1,5 thousand km. According to UAC's plans, the completion of the aircraft certification is scheduled for 2022, serial deliveries are planned from 2023.


It is noted that the new Il-114-300 is equipped with two TV7-117ST turboprop engines with low-noise propellers, as well as a new auxiliary power plant and a digital flight and navigation complex.

TV7-117ST-01 was created by UEC-Klimov, it has a takeoff power of up to 3100 hp. The power plant, together with the engine, includes a new high-thrust AV-112-114 propeller and a new automatic control system using a combined modernized engine control unit and a BARK-65SM propeller.
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  1. molyr
    molyr 16 December 2020 16: 10
    +18
    finally good
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 December 2020 16: 16
      -1
      Quote: molyr
      finally

      Well, yes, they waited 30 years.
      1. Borik
        Borik 16 December 2020 16: 28
        +4
        At least two more years will pass before the serial IL-114 will begin to replace the AN-24 ..
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 December 2020 16: 33
          +1
          Quote: Borik
          At least two more years will pass before the serial IL-114 will begin to replace the AN-24 ..

          Not less, although it was already certified in 1997.
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 16 December 2020 16: 40
            +18
            The plant did not remain in Russia, so it was necessary to re-develop it practically from scratch
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 16 December 2020 17: 07
              +17
              Wonderful lovely bird! And as many have noticed, the takeoff is unrealistically easy and beautiful, as if Il just fluttered (the takeoff was not shown to us). Successful tests and the fastest serial launch! We are waiting, sir! smile good
              1. Temples
                Temples 16 December 2020 17: 54
                +4
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                takeoff is unrealistically easy and beautiful

                good
                Really extraordinarily lightweight.
                1. Civil
                  Civil 17 December 2020 06: 51
                  -1
                  I will not hide - I was waiting, after all, the necessary regional plane, all these ATRs and L-410s need to be changed
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 17 December 2020 09: 03
                    +2
                    L-410 is also ours ..... but theater for them is only in the project
              2. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 16 December 2020 18: 23
                +6
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                takeoff is unrealistically easy and beautiful, as if Il just fluttered (the takeoff was not shown to us

                At low speed, the breakaway, and even the steering wheel was not taken over ... Obviously, empty, a little fuel ... But still impressive. Like a feather ...
              3. Crane
                Crane 16 December 2020 19: 51
                +2
                Soon, Svarog may appear with "friends" who will say that all this is bullshit and cut, and the aviation industry has long collapsed.
                About Angara were noted ...
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                  1. Crane
                    Crane 16 December 2020 20: 26
                    0
                    Cookies will be given laughing .
                    1. Vladimir Mashkov
                      Vladimir Mashkov 16 December 2020 20: 27
                      -1
                      Not yet known. Koresh was offered a golden mask. yes
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 16 December 2020 21: 13
                        -6
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Not yet known. Koresh was offered a golden mask. yes

                        Volodya, now I understand why your articles are not published .. you are delirious ..
                      2. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 16 December 2020 21: 20
                        +8
                        Namesake, and what specifically do you blame me? Well, he was joking, but he didn't lie and didn't insult? Do not be offended! Remember always what La Rochefoucauld said: "Only very stupid people do not understand jokes." Probably, they also threw dislikes ... lol
                      3. Svarog
                        Svarog 16 December 2020 21: 26
                        -1
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Namesake, and what specifically do you blame me? Well, he was joking, but he didn't lie and didn't insult? Do not be offended! Remember always what La Rochefoucauld said: "Only very stupid people do not understand jokes."

                        And I don't blame you .. where you see the accusations .. I just made a conclusion about your problem, which you reported to me on another thread ..
                        And there are no such words in my vocabulary
                        Do not be offended!

                        Remember always what La Rochefoucauld said: "Only very stupid people do not understand jokes."

                        Just joke for God's sake .. just complained about unfairness in relation to you and right there on another thread "joke" in relation to the one to whom they complained .. interesting humor .. you will go far hi
        2. 210ox
          210ox 16 December 2020 17: 13
          +13
          They released it in Tashkent. Several aircraft have been operating there for the last fifteen years.
        3. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 16 December 2020 17: 14
          +6
          The plant did not remain in Russia,

          There was an obvious solution to this issue - to join the KLA, but the Uzbek Emir was forbidden to do so by the owners from across the ocean.
          1. andrewkor
            andrewkor 16 December 2020 19: 05
            +1
            You are wrong. Russia offered an equivalent exchange of shares in UAC and TAPOiCH. But the First President insisted on buying a share of TAPOiCH for money. An international audit of the plant was carried out. The compensation amount was 130 lemons. OAK did not succeed and the deal did not take place!
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 16 December 2020 19: 13
              +1
              The first president insisted on buying a stake in TAPOiCH for money.

              I have a suspicion that the Washington Regional Committee strongly recommended it to him.
              1. barium
                barium 16 December 2020 21: 09
                +3
                in the 90s, 84 aircraft plants were offered to all foreigners. did not buy !! but now, we produce door locks at this plant, envy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 16 December 2020 21: 23
                  +1
                  in the 90s, 84 aircraft plants were offered to all foreigners. did not buy !! but now, we produce door locks at this plant, envy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  Well, foreigners don't need a competitor and nafig, and EBNovskaya Russia in general did not need aviation even the Orenburg Flight School was closed.
                  I remembered a line from the song of the film "A Romance of Lovers", where Gradsky sang: "This song will be sad ..."
          2. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 17 December 2020 09: 04
            0
            There was no ... IL76 and 114 were not needed then. neither the Uzbeks nor the Russian Federation. And when they were needed, the plant was no longer there.
      2. bk316
        bk316 16 December 2020 17: 10
        +9
        Not less, although it was already certified in 1997.

        Uh .... And the author writes.
        According to UAC's plans, the completion of the aircraft certification is scheduled for 2022


        Or maybe you are just confusing 114 and 114-300?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 December 2020 17: 20
          +1
          Quote: bk316
          Or maybe you are just confusing 114 and 114-300?

          You are probably right, but the fact that the 114 car was certified in the late 90s is 100 poods. hi
          1. bk316
            bk316 16 December 2020 17: 22
            +10
            at the end of the 90s, it was 100 pounds.

            They were even released a little. But the 114-300 is practically a new aircraft, the fuselage is only common. Well, that's what the designers say. Development started in 2014.
            Generally speaking, things are still bad here. AN 24 are just dinosaurs. And nothing else shines yet.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 16 December 2020 17: 36
              +2
              Quote: bk316
              Generally speaking, things are still bad here. AN 24 are just dinosaurs. And nothing else shines yet.

              You just noticed that, there is nothing else on the horizon. I just glanced at the air site with a specialist and there people write that the motors will be installed on the 127H produced by Pratt & Whitney, but it seems as if the customer wishes.
              1. Genry
                Genry 16 December 2020 17: 41
                +6
                New regional Il 114 300 made its first flight
              2. Errr
                Errr 16 December 2020 18: 46
                +8
                Quote: Stroporez
                ... people write that the motors will be installed on the 127H produced by Pratt & Whitney, but it seems like at the request of the customer.
                Don't read nonsense. smile
                Among the 127s, Pratt & Whitney Canada is the most powerful with 3058 hp. the maximum continuous power is the PW127G variant, but it also does not reach 3100 hp. in the maximum takeoff mode of the Klimovsk TV7-117ST-01. In PW127H, this parameter is generally equal to 2880 hp, which is lower than that of TV7-117ST-01 even in normal takeoff mode (2900 hp).
                Canadian motors are rather weak. And the Klimovites also decided to supply their new motors for export. smile
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 16 December 2020 19: 19
                  +6
                  Quote: Herrr
                  And the Klimovites also decided to supply their new motors for export.

                  But this is already good. Thanks for the info. hi
                2. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 17 December 2020 09: 14
                  0
                  In general, it is logical to certify 2 units of the engine per car. As well as avionics.
                  1. Errr
                    Errr 17 December 2020 09: 18
                    0
                    By 2 type of both?
                  2. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 17 December 2020 09: 34
                    0
                    Yes, that's the way it is on the market. If the buyer is in Latin America and he has a fleet of other aircraft with these theaters, why does he need another type of theater?
                  3. Errr
                    Errr 17 December 2020 09: 45
                    +1
                    Well, if the customer wants to equip the bird with his own components, would the purkua, as they say, not be? The one who pays calls the tune. smile Only so far, no one is in line for the Il-114-300 because of the hillock, and we are now looking forward to this car only on domestic Russian lines, and therefore there is no need for urgent certification with other types of engines and avionics. We will hurry slowly. Everything has its time. smile
                  4. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 17 December 2020 10: 02
                    0
                    There should be an initial version of the IL design bureau ...... as in the case of the MS-21 - P&W or PD-14.
                  5. Errr
                    Errr 17 December 2020 10: 26
                    +2
                    With the MC-21, the situation, to put it mildly, is somewhat different. They initially aimed at a piece of the world air transportation market with all the ensuing consequences. We can say that MC-21 and Il-114-300 have been playing in different leagues from their very birth. smile They are very different not only in terms of performance characteristics. The MS-21 is now, at the very beginning of its journey, a real competitor even to the Airbus A320 and Boeing 737, not to mention the Chinese Comac C919.
                  6. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 17 December 2020 11: 06
                    0
                    And Il has competitors ... and has the world's most popular theaters of this class. Why limit yourself initially?
                  7. Errr
                    Errr 17 December 2020 11: 41
                    +3
                    Russia really needs 100% of its own (absolutely without imported components) aircraft of this class also for defense needs. There were already projects of modifications of the Il-114 to Il-114MP (a naval patrol aircraft capable of fighting surface ships and submarines), Il-114PR (an aircraft for electronic reconnaissance and electronic warfare), Il-114FK (a military version for reconnaissance and mapping) ... The projects, I must say, are terribly bearded, but are still very relevant. Almost three past post-Soviet decades have not changed anything in this regard. We can say that we needed such a machine as the Il-114-300 yesterday. Therefore, as they say, it's better late than never. smile
                  8. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 17 December 2020 12: 08
                    +1
                    So no one limits ..... just whether third-party customers need 100% Russian aircraft?
                  9. Errr
                    Errr 17 December 2020 12: 18
                    +3
                    There is grass in the yard, firewood on the grass, it was wet on the wood, start over. laughing
                    I just have to close this circle of our conversation with you by quoting myself (just horror, but otherwise there is no way laughing ):
                    Well, if the [third-party] customer wants to equip the bird with its own components, would it be, as they say, not a ptah? Whoever pays calls the tune. smile
                    And Russian customers already like it. smile
                  10. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 17 December 2020 14: 56
                    +1
                    Unlike MC21, this is the lowest-income segment and is often dated by the state. Especially beyond the Urals. And then yes, we need a new plane. Any size you want.
                  11. Errr
                    Errr 17 December 2020 19: 05
                    +2
                    And I am of the same opinion. We will assume that we already almost have one of these aircraft, and from now on we will only remember the An-24 in all its modifications with a kind word. smile He certainly deserves it. A successful device, but its time has already run out, tk. the last of them was released back in 1986, but only in the modification of the military transport An-26. Although the Chinese are still releasing its highly modernized version of the Xian MA60, well, then the Chinese, they have their own vision of the prospects ... smile
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 17 December 2020 12: 10
          +5
          Quote: Herrr
          With the MC-21, the situation, to put it mildly, is somewhat different. They initially aimed at a piece of the global air transportation market ...

          Understand correctly - I am deeply sympathetic to the MC and I am sure that the Russian Federation should fly on its planes, but let's be realistic: with the planned rate of 70 cars a year in 7 years, it is simply not realistic to move the A320 / B737 bundle. To gain a foothold on its territory - and there will be considerable luck
        3. Errr
          Errr 17 December 2020 12: 44
          +3
          Well, what can I say? Our production rates, of course, are still the same ... Everything in our country is available except, perhaps, the only, but extremely important thing. We still have not learned how to properly organize conveyor production. There is no German precision of the clockwork in our conveyors. Apparently this very clarity in work for us is inevitable death. laughing I'm joking, of course, but every joke, as you know, has some joke ... smile But seriously, the bird is pecking by the grain. Rapid changes in the body can be observed only as a result of the arrest of the heartbeat, and its daily growth is not striking at all. Only other people's children grow quickly. We can only hope and work for the result. Let's start slowly by replacing the old "Bobiks" and "Arbuzov" at home, and we'll see. I think so. In any case, it is already good that at least something has again begun to do with your hands.
        4. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 17 December 2020 12: 48
          +2
          Quote: Herrr
          Let's start slowly by replacing the old "Bobiks" and "Arbuzov" at home, and we'll see. I think so.
          And it is impossible not to agree with you: once again fall out of the cage of aircraft manufacturers and I think it will be forever
          Quote: Herrr
          In any case, it is already good that at least something has again begun to do with your hands.
        5. Errr
          Errr 17 December 2020 13: 06
          +2
          As the Maestro said before overturning a dose of ethanol into the body and exactly after the "warm" reception by his infantry on their native land as a result of knocking out his trophy "Messer":
          Will live! smile
          drinks
        6. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 17 December 2020 13: 14
          +2
          Quote: Herrr
          As the Maestro said before overturning the dose of ethanol into the body ...
          No, no excuse me, as you are historically incorrectly expressed this Ethanol, sorry - alcohol. drinks We will definitely good
  • Svarog
    Svarog 16 December 2020 21: 14
    -3
    Quote: Stroporez
    Pratt & Whitney, but kind of like at the request of the customer.

    Import substitution?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 17 December 2020 01: 44
      +1
      This is the desire of foreign customers in view of the availability of a service base for these engines.
    2. Alexander K_2
      Alexander K_2 17 December 2020 21: 18
      0
      Who is that Pratt to Whitney to sell, or have the sanctions against Russia been lifted? If so, then this is great news, if not, then you will have to wait a little, a year until 2050 drinks
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  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 16 December 2020 17: 11
    +9
    Not with these dviguns it was certified, again, production in Tashkent was established. And then the Uzbeks handed over the aircraft factory to their railway workers.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 December 2020 17: 18
      +4
      Quote: Aviator_
      again, production in Tashkent was established.

      And it seems like they wanted to be back in Moscow at MAPO them. Dementieva to produce?
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 16 December 2020 17: 20
        +12
        In Moscow, it looks like, apart from banks and offices, there will soon be nothing at all
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 December 2020 17: 25
          +12
          Quote: Aviator_
          In Moscow, it looks like, apart from banks and offices, there will soon be nothing at all

          I agree, there are also markets-bazaars, restaurants-casinos and brothels-brothels for the new "nobility".
    2. andrewkor
      andrewkor 16 December 2020 19: 10
      +1
      After the bankruptcy of TAPOiCh in 2011, in 2019, 90% of the plant's area was transferred to the Technopark of the Akfa company (Uzbek Samsung).
    3. barium
      barium 16 December 2020 21: 13
      +1
      Railway-shniki destroyed workshops, and now they have built high-rise residential buildings !!!!
  • svp67
    svp67 16 December 2020 17: 57
    +6
    Quote: Borik
    At least two more years will pass before the serial IL-114 will begin to replace the AN-24 ..

    And yet there is already a chance. And this plane now with its flights gives a chance to the second project of Ilyushen - Il-112, since they use the same engine and must be "tested" in the air
  • keeper03
    keeper03 18 December 2020 12: 58
    0
    What kind of replacement can we talk about, with a flight range of 1500 km. ?! request
    It is necessary to increase the range, at least from 2000 km., Preferably 2500-3000 km.! soldier
  • Fungus
    Fungus 16 December 2020 16: 28
    +16
    Well, the collapse of the Soviet Union. Then the Yeltsin years of devastation. We are slowly rebuilding the aviation industry. And it's great!
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 16 December 2020 16: 51
      +4
      Quote: Fungus
      We are slowly rebuilding the aviation industry. And it's great!

      Slowly ... yes. How else? After such a defeat ... the factories are simply recreated from nothing. These are long-term costs, which will pay off when they will pay off ... And without this, in the regime of sanctions, we'll just sit on carts ... laughing
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 December 2020 17: 06
      +7
      Quote: Fungus
      Well, the collapse of the Soviet Union. Then the Yeltsin years of devastation.

      And it turned out that I had to restore everything, as after the Second World War.
      1. Pravodel
        Pravodel 16 December 2020 17: 23
        +5
        And it turned out that I had to restore everything, as after the Second World War.

        Worse. After the Second World War, as many industries, design bureaus, production teams were not lost, design documentation was lost, etc., etc., as was lost in the 90s because of the crap = liberast ... s. Now a lot has to be rebuilt and redesigned. It's good that not all of our bright heads were stolen or fled to the west, otherwise there would have been a skiff ... Otherwise, we will slowly cope with all the problems. The restoration would go faster if Russia were cleaned out of the liberals ... And so, the restoration takes 10, 20, 30 years ...
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 December 2020 17: 47
          +5
          Quote: The Truth
          The restoration would go faster if Russia were cleaned out of the liberals ... And so, the restoration takes 10, 20, 30 years ...

          they are all in the Kremlin.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 16 December 2020 18: 28
            +6
            Quote: Stroporez
            they are all in the Kremlin.

            And investing crazy money in the restoration of aircraft and engine factories?
            Is this not a contradiction? They would steal and steal ...
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 16 December 2020 21: 17
              -4
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              And investing crazy money in the restoration of aircraft and engine factories?

              They invest quite a bit and can afford it .. and considering how long it takes to restore .. mind you, restore what was created before them .. and the pace of restoration is such that you can hardly wait.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 17 December 2020 01: 49
                +1
                Everything that was before has long been outdated physically and morally - now there is only one direction to create everything anew, focusing on the trends of today and tomorrow without which modern and competitive products cannot be created.
              2. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 17 December 2020 09: 35
                0
                Quote: Svarog
                They invest quite a lot in their pockets .. and considering how long they restore .. note, restore what was created before them

                I never looked into my pockets, but I visit factories.
                What was there 30 years ago is long and hopelessly outdated. From the workshops - perhaps the walls are old, and even those are renovated. The entire machine park is being renewed. Well, DO NOT ASSEMBLE a new engine "on your knees" ... And you can't make parts for it. What can I say. This is a must see. Stop reading on the Internet, how we lost everything ...
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    1. ioan-e
      ioan-e 16 December 2020 16: 38
      +7
      Quote: bondrostov
      To replace Ruslan! ?? And nothing is there wassat fool

      Ruslan is An-124
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 16 December 2020 16: 47
        +2
        I hope that this year the Elephant with a TD of 2029 will fly in 35.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 16 December 2020 16: 56
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          I hope that this year the Elephant with a TD of 2029 will fly in 35.

          So it seems like the Il-96-400 will have to take off on two PD-35 engines. The elephant is unlikely to be created in the metal by that time. By the way, a good question is which plane will be the first to take off on the PD-35?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 16 December 2020 17: 14
            +2
            On IL 96 400 will receive PD 18 with a thrust of 20 tons at PS 90A3 - 17 tons - PD 35 under the wing of IL 96 will not fit a hood with a fan too large over 3 meters.
            1. Orange bigg
              Orange bigg 16 December 2020 17: 20
              -1
              What plane will the PD-35 engines lift? For example, the MS-21-310 took off on two PD-14s. Your option? I think only the Il-96-400. There are no other aircraft under the PD-35 on the horizon. of a Russian-Chinese wide-body aircraft, if they have time, of course. And under the PD-35, the wings can be converted into an IL-96-400, for example, creating a modification of this machine.
              1. El Chuvachino
                El Chuvachino 16 December 2020 18: 23
                -1
                PAK TA, CR929
              2. Hagen
                Hagen 16 December 2020 19: 49
                +1
                Quote: OrangeBigg
                There are no other vehicles under the PD-35 on the horizon yet.

                So far, there is no PD-35 either. And given that the glider is developed faster than the engine, then there is no point in rushing the Elephant. In theory, both of them as products, both the engine and the glider, should be born at about the same time.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 16 December 2020 16: 34
    -1
    . New russian promising turboprop Il-114-300 made its first flight

    Good news.
    The old Soviet modernized Il-114 turned out to be more successful than the really new Russian Il-112. The second flight of the Il-112 is planned only two years after the first ...
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 December 2020 16: 40
      -12%
      Quote: Stas157
      The old Soviet modernized Il-114 turned out to be more successful than the really new Russian Il-112.

      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 December 2020 16: 52
        +3
        Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
        Quote: Stas157
        The old Soviet modernized Il-114 turned out to be more successful than the really new Russian Il-112.


        I'm embarrassed to ask who is depicted in the photo? Shamanic ritual, nirvana?
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 December 2020 16: 54
          -4
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          I'm embarrassed to ask who is depicted in the photo?

          Vladimir Brest.
        2. loki565
          loki565 16 December 2020 17: 31
          +4
          Yes, this is an old meme, like zakos under Tarkovsky)))
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 16 December 2020 16: 54
        0
        Why did you expose your photo? Do you want to meet? Excuse me, please, I'm not interested in men. But, the pose is beautiful!))

        P.S. Here Sergeant Petrov also harassed the men - in an obsessive form, some forum users in Skype offered to leave))) Like, I want to have a look!

        Contact Petrov. Surely you will find common interest!))
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 16 December 2020 16: 58
          +2
          It looks like Saakashvili in his youth. The ritual of eating the first tie while on drugs. Seem figured out. what
        2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 December 2020 17: 00
          -4
          Why did you expose your photo? Do you want to meet? Excuse me, please, I'm not interested in men.

          Quote from the internet:
          “The hero of this photo is a man from Samara, his name is Vladimir Brest.
          An Internet meme that personifies hypertrophied despair, the collapse of all hopes, utter hopelessness, and so on. Usually used in an ironic sense.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 16 December 2020 17: 06
            +2
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            a man from Samara, his name is Vladimir Brest

            Sorry, I'm not interested in him either.
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 December 2020 17: 09
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              Sorry

              Why are you apologizing? Do they persuade you obsessively?
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 16 December 2020 17: 18
                0
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Why are you apologizing?

                Just out of politeness. I don't want to offend you!
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 December 2020 17: 32
                  0
                  Just out of politeness. I don't want to offend you!

                  Well, what are you, right! There is no way you can offend me. Don't even try!
        3. Grits
          Grits 16 December 2020 17: 43
          +2
          Quote: Stas157
          P.S. Here Sergeant Petrov also harassed the men - in an obsessive form, some forum users in Skype offered to leave))) Like, I want to have a look!

          Contact Petrov. Surely you will find common interest!)

          Is this not the one that is Boshirov's friend? Then maybe he just offers to look at the spiers of English cathedrals?
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 16 December 2020 17: 52
            +1
            Quote: Gritsa
            he can just invites you to look at the spiers English cathedrals?

            I fully admit this option!))
        4. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 16 December 2020 19: 03
          0
          Banned Petrov ...
          And there were no people like him, and there is no need!)))
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 16 December 2020 20: 18
            +2
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Banned Petrov...

            Exactly. Only now I found out about it. He is already furious in PM knocking on me ... and something so evil!))) Apparently he was offended by the mention of him on the forum. No one would be happy with free advertising!)))

            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            And people like him was not, no, and it is not necessary!)))

            I absolutely agree!)) hi
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 16 December 2020 20: 20
              0
              Give him something from me too ... But just so that they don't ban it)))
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 16 December 2020 16: 49
      +9
      Old Soviet modernized Il-114

      Well yes. Old Soviet modernized Il-114. True, released 29 years after the collapse of the USSR from new materials, with new engines, new electronics. Nestykovochka. Soviet, but released almost 30 years after the collapse of the Union. Interestingly, is the Su-35 also a Soviet aircraft in your opinion? Also a modernized machine, based on the design of the Su-27.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 16 December 2020 17: 13
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        and the Su-35 is also a Soviet aircraft in your opinion?

        Su-35 is Su-27M. So it is, a modernized Soviet aircraft. This is completely Russian Su-57.
        1. El Chuvachino
          El Chuvachino 16 December 2020 18: 47
          +1
          If I understand correctly, then Alexander meant those Su-35s that are now in service. So you confused the T-10S modernization project (aka "Su-35BM" and it is a modern Su-35S) with the modernization of the T-10M, which were also called the Su-35, but this is a development of the 80-90s. The current Su-35S is a development of the 00s and differs radically from everything that was previously offered on the T-10 platform. A practically redesigned aircraft from completely different and newest components, the similarity is only superficial.

          Of the visual differences, the old Su-35s were distinguished by the PGO and the presence of an air brake.

          The new Su-35 lost these features, but received a modified and reinforced airframe.
          The internal differences between them are colossal.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 16 December 2020 19: 44
        0
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Inconsistency.

        Damn, and so it seems to me! We read the article:
        It is capable of carrying up to 68 passengers over a distance of up to 1,5 thousand km.
        It seems like nothing the range ... However, in another source, other data:
        Flight technical characteristics of IL-114:

        Crew: two people
        Length: 26,877 m
        Wingspan: 30,00 m
        Passenger: 64 person
        Carrying capacity: 6500 kg
        Weight empty: 13 700 kg
        Maximum takeoff weight: 23 500 kg
        Powerplant: two gas turbine engines TV7-117
        Maximum speed: 685 km / h
        Cruising speed: 625 km / h
        Practical range: 6500 km
        So it turns out at one gas station 4 ends can you do? Or do you want to fly 3000 km once !? Or are our tracks so short that you can't find more than 1500 km? Then what about the song "My native land is wide" !? laughing
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 16 December 2020 21: 00
          +3
          Practical range: 6500 km

          An obvious mistake, it flies for one and a half thousand, like the AN-24
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 16 December 2020 21: 49
            0
            Just with different loads and plus the fuel supply, which is irreducible before landing ...
            Flight range with maximum number of passengers is 1 900 km, range with maximum fuel reserve (load 1 kg) - 300 thousand km.
            https://tass.ru/info/10273859#:~
            It turns out that Ilyusha will be stronger than Annushka ...
            AHA.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 16 December 2020 22: 17
              +2
              Well, let the state tests pass, we'll see. While it's all on paper. It's good if it works out.
      3. An64
        An64 17 December 2020 11: 08
        +3
        Of course, the plane is completely new. Or just new engines?
  • Reviews
    Reviews 16 December 2020 17: 07
    +8
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: molyr
    finally

    Well, yes, they waited 30 years.

    30 years ago, a modification of the IL-114-300 was already developed ??! belay
  • loki565
    loki565 16 December 2020 16: 11
    +7
    Some kind of vertical takeoff, immediately from 3 points)))
    1. Hog
      Hog 16 December 2020 16: 15
      +6
      Well, the first flight, they do everything as carefully as possible.
    2. Kamchatsky
      Kamchatsky 16 December 2020 16: 17
      +4
      Also drew attention to the separation from three points. Probably, I gained more speed during the takeoff run.
    3. Vovk
      Vovk 16 December 2020 16: 22
      +1
      Interestingly, he will be able to land and take off from unpaved airfields ... after all, replacing the An-24 should successfully solve this problem.
      Is the low-wing Il-114-300 more convenient than the high-wing old An-24 for "wild" airfields in Siberia?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 16 December 2020 16: 47
        +6
        Do you know many wild airfields where you can sell 60 tickets for one flight?
        And a competitor, by the way, flew from different aero in Russia.

        1. Stas Sv
          Stas Sv 16 December 2020 17: 03
          +1
          Bodaibo as an example winked
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 16 December 2020 17: 09
            +6
            Repairing the airfield is not an option? Well, that is, there are very few cities where an airplane to the center is in demand and at the same time traffic is generated not for An-2 / L410, but for 40-50 seats. It may be easier and cheaper there to bring the airport to the minimum on the reception of the necessary aircraft, and not to develop a knowingly ineffective aircraft for everyone.

            And this is exactly what the ksati do:
            BODAYBO AIRPORT IN IRKUTSK REGION IS UPGRADED
            During spring and autumn floods, when the unpaved runway is washed away, air traffic with the city is cut off.

            According to the administration of Bodaibo, in 2021-2022 it is planned to modernize the airport complex by investing in the project ₽1,8 billion, reports TASS. It is assumed that 78% of the total amount will be allocated from the federal treasury. The rest of the appropriations will be added by the owner of the airport - the gold mining company Polyus.

            They'll build a terminal + make a normal runway with taxiing.
            1. Stas Sv
              Stas Sv 16 December 2020 19: 02
              0
              So speak bluntly - to build an airfield with a concrete surface. Which is very problematic in the north.
          2. Grits
            Grits 16 December 2020 17: 47
            +2
            Quote: Stas Sv
            Bodaibo as an example

            Yes, funny videos about it flashed on the Internet ...
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        4. Vovk
          Vovk 16 December 2020 18: 11
          +1
          Do you know many wild airfields where you can sell 60 tickets for one flight?
          Rotational workers in Siberia are the main customers for such a flight. Just for the entire flight with 60 seats, only the airfields are "wild".
      2. Laksamana besar
        Laksamana besar 17 December 2020 03: 14
        0
        The Il-114-300 is designed for autonomous operation in low-equipped airports, has a built-in gangway for entering and exiting passengers, and its chassis provides landing on unequipped airfields with both concrete and unpaved surfaces.
        Adapted for operation in the Arctic, Siberia and the Far East.
    4. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 16 December 2020 16: 47
      +4
      So it is empty, light. Without deflection of the stabilizer, go and took off
    5. Grits
      Grits 16 December 2020 17: 45
      +3
      Quote: loki565
      Some kind of vertical takeoff, immediately from 3 points)))

      And virtually no trim
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 16 December 2020 21: 10
        +3
        Quote: Gritsa
        Quote: loki565
        Some kind of vertical takeoff, immediately from 3 points)))

        And virtually no trim

        However, without TANGAZH ... Differentiation is in the fleet, at ships and submarines.
        AHA.
        1. Grits
          Grits 17 December 2020 11: 29
          0
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          However, without TANGAZH ... Differentiation is in the fleet, at ships and submarines.
          AHA.

          Oh yes ... I couldn't remember how it was with the pilots. But the control of the rudders of the nuclear submarine immediately surfaced in my memory
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 December 2020 16: 24
    +3
    An 24, 26 is already yok. Here is the replacement for Eli, 112, 114.
    1. iouris
      iouris 16 December 2020 16: 49
      0
      If the An-24 has long been "yok", then this is no longer a replacement, a new class.
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 16 December 2020 17: 08
        +3
        Quote: iouris
        If the An-24 has long been "yok", then this is no longer a replacement, a new class.

        The class is the same: an MVL aircraft for 40-70 passengers.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 December 2020 17: 09
        +1
        Quote: iouris
        If the An-24 has long been "yok", then this is no longer a replacement, a new class.

        The main thing is that yours, not someone else's.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 16 December 2020 21: 13
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The main thing is that yours, not someone else's.

          This is the Yankees like a sickle for Faberge!
          Damn, you can't impose sanctions ... Sadness, however!
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 16 December 2020 16: 30
    +9
    Another good news for the New Year.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 16 December 2020 16: 32
    +4
    The event is interesting, but it will take more than one year to wait for the start of operation.
    Otherwise, in aviation, it is not done.
    1. cniza
      cniza 16 December 2020 17: 54
      +4
      So the main thing flew, we waited a long time, we will wait for serial releases ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 December 2020 18: 03
        +4
        I flew, it's good, BUT, after that it will be necessary to fully provide the service, Schaub does not ruin a sensible matter !!!
        It is also very interesting how the plane will show itself in operation .... it is done for people, passengers, and not for the sake of some kind of prestige!
        1. cniza
          cniza 16 December 2020 18: 21
          +3
          That's just the point, our country really needs such an aircraft ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 16 December 2020 18: 49
            +1
            As they said earlier, it is needed for the national economy of the country.
            1. cniza
              cniza 16 December 2020 20: 57
              +4
              He is not only needed, he is the link that holds Russia together ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 17 December 2020 07: 27
                +2
                Quote: cniza
                ..... he is the link that holds Russia together ...

                We are a country that has wings! It's good that the restoration of glorious traditions has begun!
                1. cniza
                  cniza 17 December 2020 08: 52
                  +3
                  God grant that they would bring everything to the end, so that hundreds of new airports appear, etc.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 17 December 2020 09: 06
                    +2
                    Without a convenient, affordable way to move, incl. distant regions are emptying ... this is a problem for many years to come.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 17 December 2020 11: 25
                      +3
                      In our youth, there were more than 2000 airports in the country, now only a little more than 200, if I'm not mistaken ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 December 2020 12: 59
                        +2
                        It is it! Given our size, climatic conditions and road problems, there are many places. Affordable regional aviation is just that.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 17 December 2020 13: 11
                        +3
                        I remember how I still flew on maize, it was very convenient ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 17 December 2020 13: 24
                        +2
                        Come on ... and we took our girls, wards, out of the cornfield ... they were green yak frogs!
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 17 December 2020 13: 33
                        +3
                        There have been such things, though it's not warm there at all ... yes
  • zenion
    zenion 16 December 2020 16: 39
    -5
    The new Russian is the well-forgotten Soviet.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 December 2020 16: 48
      +3
      In this plane, nothing remained of the Soviet Il 114 except for a similar appearance.
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 16 December 2020 17: 09
        +5
        Quote: Vadim237
        In this plane, nothing remained of the Soviet Il 114 except for a similar appearance.

        The whole glider, actually. Most likely the screws.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 December 2020 18: 06
          +1
          Soviet scientific and design school. New designers do not appear on their own, someone had to teach them.
          The Soviet legacy will help us out for a long time, that is a fact.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 17 December 2020 01: 38
            +1
            The Soviet legacy ended back in the 90s - now only everything new can help us out.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 17 December 2020 07: 36
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              The Soviet legacy ended back in the 90s

              Really? Did it end right away? And where did this, that, that, that, and the next come from? Has grown out of the blue?
              Quote: Vadim237
              now only everything new can help us out.

              There are also absolutely new ones, but a significant part grew on the good old, OLD !!!
              We must continue, develop, create ... move forward!
  • zwlad
    zwlad 16 December 2020 16: 40
    +7
    Fly, bird! Fly !!!
  • donavi49
    donavi49 16 December 2020 16: 46
    +12
    It's not entirely new. The wing and most of the fuselage are out of stock. Here it is assembled in 2018.


    The first one to be created from scratch is now in the shop - the fuselage has been formed. In early 2021, they will marry with a wing and a tail.
    1. Genry
      Genry 16 December 2020 17: 19
      0
      Quote: donavi49
      It's not entirely new. The wing and most of the fuselage are out of stock.

      These are just the details of the airframe - essentially a shell. Most of the plane is inside this shell and everything is new there.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 December 2020 18: 08
        +1
        EVERYTHING IS IMPORTANT on the plane. Do not dress up, it's ours, YOURSELF! This is the main thing.
        Although, the operation will show everything and everyone!
  • senima56
    senima56 16 December 2020 16: 46
    +4
    Hooray! drinks Wait! good yes Would rather be in the series now! drinks
    Have you noticed how he came off about the runway? Almost vertical !!! Miracle! good
    1. iouris
      iouris 16 December 2020 16: 50
      +2
      Quote: senima56
      Hooray!

      Chickens are counted in autumn (Folk wisdom. Russian by the way).
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 December 2020 16: 50
    +2
    Do you have orders for them? Otherwise, competing with foreigners even in your own country is not just difficult, in fact impossible. Due to the fact that they have been in our sky for a long time, there is both service and demand, to recapture their sky from scratch, even part of it is high time!
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 December 2020 17: 06
      +3
      They go well with the state support:
      The authorities of Yakutia count on state support in financing the contract for the IL-114
      As a reminder, in 2019, Polar Airlines and PJSC Aviation Complex im. SV Ilyushin ”signed an agreement of intent, according to which the air carrier from Yakutia will receive 3 Il-114-300 aircraft. The total need of the republic from 2022 to 2029 for the supply of aircraft of this series (they must replace the outdated An-24 and An-26) is 23 units.

      It is expensive without it (this is news in 2018 - now the plan is to keep the price up to 1,4 billion):
      "Now it is somewhat premature to talk about the final cost of a production vehicle, when the cost of a prototype vehicle has not been fully formed. But there is a goal announced by the RF Ministry of Industry and Trade: somewhere in the region of 1 billion rubles," Kabatov said.

      The general director of the Yakutia airline, Vladimir Gorbunov, in turn, noted that the price factor is key and the figure of a billion rubles is large.

      "Each operation of an aircraft results in a history of lease payments. Roughly speaking, 1 billion rubles is a lease rate of $ 150 thousand per month. Our Bombardier Dash-8 Q300 / 400 aircraft are at half the rates. We are for the renewal of the fleet, for our Russian equipment. But all this translates into a serious cost, comparable to long-haul aircraft.", - he said.
      1. Genry
        Genry 16 December 2020 17: 31
        -2
        You inserted a quote linked to the Superjet and not related to the IL-114.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 16 December 2020 17: 58
          +3
          Where is there even one word Superjet ???

          https://www.interfax.ru/russia/637836

          And here is the real contract for tenders from the "State Transport Leasing Company"
          GTLK will order three IL-114-300 aircraft at the price 1,44 billion rubles per plane... Total contract value will be 4,3 billion rubles, follows from the tender documents. The state transport leasing company expects to receive the aircraft in 2023.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 December 2020 17: 16
      +4
      Quote: Thrifty
      Do you have orders for them? Otherwise, competing with foreigners even in your own country is not just difficult, in fact impossible.

      And how do you remember the USSR, when all the "birds", from the smallest Yak-12 to the "Mriya", were all their own, relatives, and traveled all over the Union and around the world. And we didn't need foreign ones, we were "Yourself with a mustache." I would like it to be the same in Russia.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 16 December 2020 17: 24
        +1
        Well, there are two options:
        - Plan and government funding. That is, you will pay taxes to your neighbors. True, they will also fly not where they want, but where the officials will approve the route. And they will eat whatever they add to the list. Ah, for this system to somehow work, all S7 and other other AKs must be nationalized and brought to a single standard.

        - Individual financing. That is, the ticket will include:
        - the worst fuel efficiency -% rise in price.
        - the worst planned and actual technical readiness -% rise in price.
        - significantly longer downtime for checks and repairs -% rise in price.
        - often an even larger flight crew with salaries -% rise in price.

        As a result, you will pay twice as much for a ticket on your own as on a 737 / A320 / Bombardier / Embraer. How long will such a patriotic company live on the open market? When can anyone fly on the same S7 or Aeroflot?
  • sgr291158
    sgr291158 16 December 2020 17: 03
    +3
    Well, all the first-borns flew, MS-21 310, Il 114 300. We must also remember that we still have Tupolev and Yakovlev design bureaus.
    1. Garris199
      Garris199 16 December 2020 17: 11
      +5
      The MS-21 is essentially the YAK.
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 16 December 2020 17: 18
      +5
      MS-21 is the Yakovlev Design Bureau
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 16 December 2020 17: 21
      +1
      We are waiting for the "Messenger" from Tupolev in 2025 with a deeply modernized 56-ton NK 24 engines.
  • 113262a
    113262a 16 December 2020 17: 14
    +1
    And it will work out of it? If you cram electronics Or the same AWACS? Vaughn, amers-twin-engine deck with a plate.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 16 December 2020 17: 23
    0
    The latest IL-114-300 is expected to replace the outdated An-24 ...

    And will he be able to work from unpaved strips?
    1. senima56
      senima56 16 December 2020 17: 26
      +3
      Maybe from the ground. That is the idea - ".... and for poorly adapted, unpaved GDP"! hi
  • sifgame
    sifgame 16 December 2020 17: 26
    +1
    It is interesting to read the comments, someone yells about 30 years, as if it has been developed and produced in Russia for 30 years, only in the USSR the plane flew 8 years after the start of development. Someone is very worried that the airplane will not fly anywhere (an expert is most likely in this area), why the ATPs are buying and where they are flying he does not know. Here I would be happy, if I flew, then it’s going on, there will be an airplane, but no, everything is not so, the cut probably still forgot to mention.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 16 December 2020 17: 27
    +4
    Quote: Garris199
    The MS-21 is essentially the YAK.


    There are differences from the original project of the 90s, but in general, yes. And it was originally called not MS-21, but Yak-242.
    1. Grits
      Grits 16 December 2020 17: 52
      +3
      Quote: Pavel57
      And it was originally called not MS-21, but Yak-242.

      And that would be more honest.
      1. sifgame
        sifgame 16 December 2020 20: 51
        +1
        Well, after all, this is already a different plane, so it cannot be called Yak-242, but why cannot it be called Yak -...? This is a question developed by the Yakovlev Design Bureau, made on the basis of the Yakovlev Design Bureau.What is the problem with naming him after the great Soviet aircraft designer, I think there are no problems, and as soon as the plane passes all the tests and starts mass production it will become Yak, I hope so.
  • Guru
    Guru 16 December 2020 17: 52
    -1
    I have only one question left. I'll clarify the situation. In the history of the IL 112 there was a message about an error in the software intended for the design and calculation of aircraft. Problems were reported at Boeing, we remember well the error encountered by the aircraft builders of Dill (everyone clapped their hands) with the An-178, then similar problems occurred with the IL 112. After its first flight, they began to frantically refine it.
    My question sounds like this: Are there NO such problems with IL 114-300?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 December 2020 18: 01
      +3
      Il-114 in general, the old board is still Soviet. Let's just say that this is a major modernization with a new start of the series, at a new technical level, akin to the Il-76MD in the Il-76MD-90A (476). Therefore, critical design errors will not pass. Everything was calculated back in the USSR.
    2. Vovk
      Vovk 16 December 2020 18: 20
      +1
      Quote: Guru
      My question sounds like this - and with IL 114-300 there are NO such problems

      From the Soviet project there is only a fuselage, but about the hydraulics and engines ... they will put something new and I doubt that they will be specially adjusted for the IL-114-M300, therefore, problems are very possible, because it will already be a new plane.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 16 December 2020 18: 27
        +3
        Well, that's exactly the fact that there is a Soviet - wing, fuselage, on the Il-112 screwed up and on the An-178 also screwed up.

        There are no problems with the engines just. Various problems with hydraulic systems, brakes, electronics and other things that were usually imported (Zodiac, Rockwell, Goodrich, Hamilton Standard, Parker, etc.) can come out. Well, they will either put something from the old, or something from the new. The operational ones will sag, so this is the norm. Well, he will stay on the check twice as often and twice as long. SSZ can get up for a month because of scarce parts and their norms under subsidies. IL-114 will be similar.
        1. Vovk
          Vovk 16 December 2020 19: 25
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          There are no problems with engines just.

          To be clear, it's like putting an engine from one brand of car on another. So there will be problems, there will be bumps ... there will be modernizations of the aircraft ... moving forward ... this is the way.
  • Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 16 December 2020 18: 10
    +1
    ***
    Our mind gave us steel arms, wings,
    And instead of a heart - a fiery motor ...
    ***
  • O. Bender
    O. Bender 16 December 2020 19: 58
    0
    Painted creatively, or is it a play of shadows?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 16 December 2020 20: 23
    0
    Quote: Gritsa

    And that would be more honest.

    If you support the Yak brand, it is not more honest, but justified. And if you create a new brand, then it is not necessary.
  • 123456789
    123456789 16 December 2020 23: 25
    +1

    Il-114 Khabarovsk Airport (RA-91002) 1998
    Deja vu!
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 17 December 2020 00: 11
    -1
    1400m lane required .... however. For the North, nothing, and with a full load of 1500 km, it is somehow too weak. This means that 50% of the cargo will fly, but this is not quite
    effectively
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 December 2020 14: 56
      0
      To increase efficiency means to cut, to cut back (I really can't).
  • faiver
    faiver 17 December 2020 01: 39
    +2
    Great news, we are waiting on the lines ....
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 17 December 2020 08: 44
    +1
    good luck guys))) well done!
  • Eug
    Eug 17 December 2020 20: 21
    0
    Well done, that did not bother with a single aerodynamic configuration with 112 (like An-24, 26), limiting ourselves to unification according to the VMG and, most likely, some systems. High sky!
  • Alexander K_2
    Alexander K_2 17 December 2020 20: 22
    -1
    Congratulations! fellow Well, now there is already quite a Slightly-Slightly left (In 1997 the TV7-117S engine was certified in the CIS countries). By 2050, just in time for the return of another Chinese transport ship from the Moon, and the Mask from Mars, they will start selling tickets for the most advanced aircraft of the 21st century.
    IL - 114 <BIS / 2060>, by flight Vnukovo-MKAD