Ukrainian Minister: With Turkey, Ukraine will dramatically strengthen the combat capabilities of its Navy in the Azov-Black Sea region

The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine signed an agreement on deepening military-technical cooperation with Turkey. The signing was carried out with representatives of the delegation of the Turkish Directorate of Defense Industry, which (the delegation) visited Kiev on a visit.

The head of the military department of Ukraine Andriy Taran thanked the head of the aforementioned directorate Ismail Demir for "assistance in the development of the defense potential of Ukraine."

The agreement between Kyiv and Ankara provides for the transfer of certain technologies of the military-industrial format, as well as the production of corvettes and shock drones. According to Mr. Taran, thanks to cooperation with Turkey, Ukraine "will radically strengthen the combat capabilities of its Navy in the Azov-Black Sea region."

Andrey Taran:

Our cooperation with our Turkish colleagues is strategic. These are the first in stories Ministry of Defense of Ukraine foreign economic transactions for military goods.

Earlier it was reported that in addition to corvettes and UAVs, Ukraine and Turkey will be engaged in the joint production of all types of turbine engines. When the agreement was signed, there was no talk about it (at least in an open format).

Earlier in the European press, commenting on the deepening of contacts between Kiev and Ankara in military and military-technical plans, they noted that Ukraine is trying to enlist support from Turkey against the background of a decrease in the level of support from the EU. At the same time, Kiev clearly keeps the Karabakh scenario in mind, considering the possibility of its implementation in the Donbas. The European press warns Ukraine against attempts to implement such a scenario, pointing out that otherwise Ukraine may finally lose its statehood.

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[Victor_B]

Multi-vector Luke... Erdogan in his repertoire!
A 404 with an outstretched hand will sell anything cheaply.
This is a great business for Turkey!

[Finches]

Another Ukrainian friends - now from Turecheny!

But it looks like this - "... but before I have time to go out to your Little Tangent Street, you will run after me crying and lick my janissary heels, begging me to return."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Victor_B

A 404 with an outstretched hand will sell anything cheaply.

So they have been selling everything to Turkey for a long time. The Turks themselves say "Thanks to Ukraine, we have built on the eastern coast of the Bosphorus" New Istanbul. "

[Boris Chernikov]

at the same time, they have a semi-assembled corvette, as it were ..

[rotmistr60]

cooperation with Turkish colleagues is strategic

The new Ukrainian panacea for Russia is an alliance with Turkey. Foreign countries represented by the EU have lost interest, so we will be on friendly terms with Turkey, which has its own views on Russian territory. Like blind kittens poke around looking for a boob that will feed and save.

[NDR-791]

These are the first foreign economic transactions for military goods in the history of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
Strange statement ??? It seems that half of the Soviet warehouses have already been sold. Yes, and they use junk of their manufacture. The same kulemets yesterday ...

[Boris Chernikov]

so before that they were supplied with old stuff ... but here they will, as it were, put new ships ..

[Prisoner]

Scary to say what they bump into instead of boobs.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: rotmistr60

Like blind kittens poke around looking for a boob that will feed and save.

Blind kittens have a scent several times better than humans. That's why they find a boob. And in this case, no matter how they miss!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

Like blind kittens poke around looking for a boob that will feed and save.

Rather not like kittens, but greedy Sumerians.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

ooooo .. and the Turk wants to get under the kidok .... the dust from the tea house hasn't settled yet .... well, it's worth admitting .. the Kiev junta are wonderful cheats ... suckers from all over in science and they climb so that they would be cheated ... here it is worth betting gentlemen, comrades ... how many Kiev burglars will throw the Janissaries !!!!

[210ox]

I don't care how much. Another thing is interesting. Has it really dawned on our Kremlin leaders six years later that we should not partner with enemies, but fight. The court seized the assets of a Ukrainian fishing firm.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

we must not partner with enemies, fight .... nothing can be done ... the bourgeois world is so ... how it grit ... nothing but business ... but in general this shnyaga ... the court arrested ... all the norms of the legislation of the Russian Federation provide for deportation ... this is what should have been dealt with from the beginning ... about 10 million gaster from vnau take billions of money home ... and you mean a fish company

[Insurgent]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

.about 10 million gaster from the wnau take billions of money home ... and you mean a fish company

Not all 10 "migrant workers" in Russia, and the figure itself is perhaps somewhat overestimated.

With the same ones that in the Russian Federation, they began to carry out certain work:

At Russian construction sites, where the state acts as the customer, there is a dismissal of "Svidomo" Ukrainian guest workers.
This was announced on the air of the Internet channel PolitWera by former Kiev journalist Andrei Vajra, who moved to St. Petersburg after the coup.

According to Vajra, "from above" the management of the facilities was instructed to identify the most pro-Ukrainian workers who support what happened on the Maidan, and to fire them.

Quote: A. Vajra

“Just a couple of weeks ago, an order came from Moscow to get rid of the workers. Moreover, how to get rid of - not all at once, but from the general mass to single out only those who do not like Russia, who show love for Ukraine. You know, when people live, they have Ukrainian flags instead of curtains. And there are some plastics on the walls. That is, they emphasize that they are "Svidomo".

http://ruspravda.info/V-RF-nachali-uvolnyat-ukrainskih-zarobitchan-maydanshchikov-40675.html

[Crimean partisan 1974]

and the figure itself is perhaps somewhat overestimated ....... rather underestimated, .. because from the text ... "At Russian construction sites, where the customer is the state" ..... these are official gasterses. but who builds summer cottages for a private trader around Russian megacities. and so in cities and towns ..... gaster with wnau .... so I don't confuse anything .... Russian moneybags are satisfied with the cheap labor of gaster .... because there is no political motive. and during the calculation, instead of payment and a kick in the ass, you can give indicating poor-quality work, but this is a rarity

[Insurgent]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

and the figure itself is perhaps somewhat overestimated ....... rather underestimated

From 7 to 9 million (the figure is not constant), this is the estimate of the dill themselves.
Plus from 2,3 to 3 million who have a permanent job abroad (and permanently residing there, and in fact, have little in common with the outskirts), and therefore not included in the definition of "guest worker".

[Crimean partisan 1974]

such is the assessment of the dill themselves .... but you should not rely on the statistics of the wnau-junta .. because they themselves do not know how many there are in general ... so an estimate of 10 miles is the closest to the truth .. therefore it would be extremely necessary it is the Gasterses and deport to their homeland ... let them jump there

[Insurgent]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

one should not rely on the statistics of the vnau-junta .. because they themselves do not know how many there are at all ... so an estimate of 10 miles is the closest to the truth .. therefore it would be extremely necessary to deport the gaster to their homeland .. let it to jump

Am I against the expulsion of the horses to the hut? Not at all. Let them seethe there
But you need to be careful about the numbers. Just the interval of 7-9 million is an estimate quite accurate, based on an assessment of the various parameters possible for such a calculation.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

based on an assessment of the various parameters possible for such a calculation ... it's still a lot ... all the more, if this horde were deported to the wnau, then everyone would be fine .... the victorious slogans to wnau were turned patryёty .. glory goro "and all that ... and in the Russian Federation, jobs will be free and billions of money will remain at home .... but bourgeois is bourgeois ... there is nothing you can do about it, except for the fish artel, what kind of thread Ukrainian food store will be closed to report ... that's a pier. we kill Ukrainian business ... well, it's on the conscience of the bourgeoisie

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

According to Vajra, "from above" the management of the facilities was instructed to identify the most pro-Ukrainian workers who support what happened on the Maidan, and to fire them.

And Andrey Vajra can be trusted, just like Oles Buzina.

[My doctor]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

about 10 million gaster from wnau take billions of money home ...

10 million Ukrainians working in Russia? Hardly, if people are already trying to leave Belarus to work in Europe, then there is nothing to say about the Ukrainians.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

It is unlikely that if people from Belarus are already trying to go to work in Europe, then there is nothing to say about Ukrainians ........ this is debatable ... the hero is not rubber. from the words of my kent. who drove to the hero to earn money, gave up this venture. because the payment has decreased several times, that is, if he earned a little more than 14 euros before the age of 1000, plus side dividends from sending any freebies home. but now the payment has dropped to the level of benefits and strained with the parcels .... and in the Russian Federation, gasterses themselves stink like a fish in water. nothing has changed

[My doctor]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

it's debatable ... the hero is not rubber.

AND? Is Russia rubber? In the Russian Federation, employers are very good at getting used to pay off.

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

and in the Russian Federation, gasterses themselves chuhayutsya like a fish in water. nothing has changed

Working as a gaster is life-threatening in terms of TB compliance.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

In the Russian Federation, employers are very good at getting used to pay ...
on the cobblers' coves they earn without any sorting ... an example is this ... the cost of laying one brick during construction on a cobble is equal to the cost of the brick itself, that is, putting 2000 bricks in 10 hours is not a problem. that is, the earnings should be 20000 sput rubles, the gaster take half, or even a third, for this work, by their own consent ... well, here's the real savings ... everyone is good ... for what else to burn
Working as a Gaster is life-threatening in terms of compliance with TB ........ well, it's like life ..... it is also a dangerous type of event to ferry refugees across the Mediterranean to the heroopa ... satisfaction and other illegal pleasures ... well, what is not a dream

[My doctor]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

on the cobblers' covens they earn without any sorting ... an example is this ... the cost of laying one brick during construction on a cobble is equal to the cost of the brick itself, that is, putting 2000 bricks in 10 hours is not a problem.

No. I'm talking about official work on a rotational basis. When an employee enters into a contract with a recruiting agency and it is with a plant. This often leads to murky stories. And these are not bricklayers, but operators and adjusters of CNC machines.

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

Working as a Gaster is life-threatening in terms of compliance with TB ........ well, it's like life ..... it is also a dangerous type of event to cross the Mediterranean to the gaster

Installation or dismantling of structures when the crane operator sits in the cab for a day. Cutting pipes at operating units of a petrochemical enterprise or working in insufficiently cleaned containers in the same place, not to mention the condition of the scaffolds, scaffolding when working at height.
So what do you think is more dangerous?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

No. I'm talking about official work on a rotational basis. When an employee enters into an agreement with a recruiting agency and it is with a plant ....... well, Duc if there is a contract. then who is talking over whom it is by mutual agreement
So what do you think is more dangerous? ... more dangerous to be outside the labor law

[tihonmarine]

Quote: MyVrach

Hardly, if people are already trying to leave Belarus to work in Europe, then there is nothing to say about the Ukrainians.

Here I doubt it, I myself live in Europe. Europe is not rubber, and specialists from other regions of the former USSR are much higher (judging by those who worked for me. No offense.)

[Crimean partisan 1974]

, and experts from other regions of the former USSR, are much higher .... specialists are not for nothing fed .... but the specialists in the mass of all migrant workers cried a cat. mostly low qualifications and no one at all

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

but the cat cried out for specialists in the mass of all migrant workers. mostly low qualifications and no one at all

There is no qualification, and even more "fake". According to the documents, the "specialist" in conversations is "superchpets", but in fact all the certificates have been bought. Everyone has 5-6 documents in stock for all occasions, and when they come to a construction site, two think, and eight walk from corner to corner. Here on the road with a shovel and trenches for pipes to dig, here they are suitable.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

with a shovel and trenches for pipes to dig, here they are suitable ....... Duc otozh ... for 15-20 sput a month, the local people of FIG will go to do this, and the gaster is already at the time ... that's why I'm setting out thought ... Delone comes to deportation only because the Russian bourgeoisie is very profitable ... well, this is the bourgeois world he is

[210ox]

Well, the court is not ours. And in the Virgin Islands. And about the fact that it is necessary to deport, I agree. It is necessary to clean up all this rag-tag.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

It is necessary to clean up all this riffraff .... but there is nothing to count ... stop by any suburban area and work on catching ... although no one will run away especially ... but there is no less route for the relevant authorities. .. all that was left was to put the driver behind the wheel ...

[Rubi0]

Empires are built on slaves, Western countries imported them and you, on the contrary, will be scattered with cheap resources. But all money transfers in foreign currency must be made as complicated as possible, leaving only the possibility of transferring in rubles.

[Comrade]

The European press warns Ukraine against attempts to implement such a scenario, pointing out that otherwise Ukraine could finally lose its statehood.

Yes, let it be.
Today for them the worse the better.

[Cutter]

provides for the transfer of certain technologies of a military-industrial format, as well as the production of corvettes and attack drones

Oh, Turks, are you not afraid that after the transfer of technology you will get BANDEROPLOT? Oh yes ... you don't care ...

These are the first foreign economic transactions for military goods in the history of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

What, Ukraine did not trade in weapons before ??? Didn't sell anything ??????

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Cutter

What, Ukraine did not trade in weapons before ??? Didn't sell anything ??????

I took out what I can.

[nnm]

I wonder if the EU imposes sanctions on Turkey and demands the same from Ukraine, on which of the two chairs will it squeeze its butt and sit for a long time in such a twine? After all, in the end, either the EU will have to quarrel, or the Turks ..
From a certain moment, modern Ukraine decided that their cunning of a farm style was not noticed by anyone and that they were the most intelligent and far-sighted. And in the end, they quarreled with anyone possible.

[aszzz888]

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I wonder if the EU imposes sanctions on Turkey and demands the same from Ukraine, on which of the two chairs will Nenka press her fifth point and how long will a lemon sit in such a string? After all, in the end, either the EU will have to quarrel, or the Turks ..

Will squeeze between the chairs!

[nnm]

The problem is that there real diplomats and cunning Ukraine see through and through. For now, they just need it as an anti-Russia. But it will not be able to continue indefinitely, and sooner or later, trying to sit between the chairs, he will feel the "love" of his friends. As with China or Hungary, for example.

[aszzz888]

In this case, Kiev clearly keeps in mind the Karabakh scenario, considering the possibility of its implementation in the Donbass.

This "mind" will not be kicked out for long.

[Thrifty]

I wonder who will give money for joint projects? The Vuk Roin residents do not have their own sAros, that is, besides cookies, they probably only have a promise that the sponsors of the Maidan, tired of them, will promise them to promise to consider the issue of promising the allocation of allocations, ugh, that is, some money. ...then...

[evgen1221]

As I understand it, the Turks have successfully sold ukram what the Ukrainians cannot do.

[askort154]

While there is an electoral mess in the United States, England has stepped up against Russia.
She summoned Zelensky, explained to him that it was no longer possible to count on the help of the EU in the confrontation with Russia, in the same way, NATO is a long road. Therefore, it is necessary to enter into a military alliance with Turkey. Therefore, when Zelensky arrived in Kiev, the next day he rushed to Erdogan. Immediately, Turkey allocated 36 million dollars to Ukraine for armaments. This is how the "great friendship" between Ukraine and Turkey began. And Erdogan climbed into the post-Soviet space - Azerbaijan and Ukraine.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: askort154

While there is an electoral mess in the United States, England has stepped up against Russia.

England all the time held Turkey like a club against Russia.

[Ros 56]

Uh-huh, the Turks will cooperate, take everything they need from the galloping animals and to their shore.

[tihonmarine]

These are the first foreign economic transactions for military goods in the history of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

And what, Taran has already forgotten the deal with Turkey, on the supply of defective KUM "kulemets" without barrels?

[K-50]

Ukrainian Minister: With Turkey, Ukraine will dramatically strengthen the combat capabilities of its Navy in the Azov-Black Sea region

Ukr politicians live by the principle "just to blurt out something!"
Who will let the Turks into the Sea of ​​Azov?
As, however, and everyone else. The Sea of ​​Azov is the Russian sea, and there is no need for others to trample the shores there.
And it will hurt!

[Normal ok]

Quote: K-50

Ukrainian Minister: With Turkey, Ukraine will dramatically strengthen the combat capabilities of its Navy in the Azov-Black Sea region

Ukr politicians live by the principle "just to blurt out something!"
Who will let the Turks into the Sea of ​​Azov?
As, however, and everyone else. The Sea of ​​Azov is the Russian sea, and there is no need for others to trample the shores there.
And it will hurt!

In the original, the news sounds like this: Ukraine bought technology and the rights to produce corvettes and drones from Turkey. This does not mean that the Turks will climb into the Sea of ​​Azov.

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

Turkey has decided to bypass the sanctions on the supply of equipment for UAVs with the help of intermediaries in an independent, quite working scheme, beneficial to suppliers of components for UAVs. What a clever move, just the height of genius, YUZHMASH will dramatically master the production of engines and avionics for byterakers :)

[iouris]

And in the Dnieper-Don.

[demo]

Ukraine is once again looking for someone who can be dragged into its adventures, and on whom later, in case of failure, to shift the responsibility.
But from the history of this pseudo state it is known that "the forelocks of the slaves are cracking."
So the result is known ahead of schedule.

[gurzuf]

These are the first foreign economic transactions for military goods in the history of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. But what about the new Ukrainian machine guns that Ukraine should be delivered to the Turks?

[Catholic]

With Turkey, Ukraine will drastically strengthen the combat capabilities of its Navy

It's time for Ukraine to finally decide who it is. Either with the United States, or with the European Union, or with Turkey ... They behave as if they were "multi-vector."

[Catholic]

Kiev clearly keeps the Karabakh scenario in mind, considering the possibility of its implementation in the Donbas

Donbass is not Karabakh. Kiev may not even count on the Karabakh option.

[Catholic]

Ukraine may finally lose its statehood.

Is there statehood in Ukraine now? Apparently what is happening in Ukraine, there is no statehood there.