Where are you going, "Academician Chersky"?

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© Photo: Gazprom fleet

Walks, roams the seas


Floats, as you know, in the hole you know what. Our Russian pipelayer "Akademik Chersky", like any other self-respecting ship, walks. A lot, long and tedious, so we can already say - wanders.

Although the main task of the ship is completely different - to lay pipes. In all official documents, "Chersky" is listed as KMTUS, that is, a crane and assembly pipe-laying vessel. "Academician Chersky" was taken with such difficulty across the oceans and seas to the German port of Mukran that it was just right to hand out awards to the team.



And about crossing the equator. And because now she can handle any trip around the world and are not afraid of any sanctions. Up to the sanctions against insurers, which KMTUS covered with its own board.

However, recent reports from the Baltic shores are not very inspiring. The media, large and small, amicably reported that

“Academician Chersky has moved away from the completion point of Nord Stream 2.

Further only the chronicles. But with comments. Since a simple list of events is about to get into Wikipedia.

At the beginning of a long journey


January 2020 of the year. The modernization of the Russian pipe-laying vessel Akademik Chersky was completed at the Nakhodka shipyard.


Source: twitter.com

Together with the Fortuna pipe-laying barge, this is the only real contractor for the last stage of construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. That is, laying a 70-80 kilometer section along the bottom of the Baltic Sea in Denmark's economic responsibility zone.

February 9, 2020, Sunday. According to the global positioning system of sea vessels, on Sunday, February 9, KMTUS "Akademik Chersky" left the port of Nakhodka and headed for Singapore.

February 24, Monday. The pipelayer owned by Gazprom was supposed to arrive in Singapore on February 22, but changed the route. Experts assumed that the ship was being prepared for passage to the Baltic along the Northern Sea Route.

Thus, Deputy General Director of the Institute of National Energy Alexander Frolov noted that

“The Northern Sea Route is shorter, and there are fewer risks associated with possible interference of some third parties. But, on the other hand, there are problems associated with ice conditions on the route. Now it is difficult to drive Akademik Chersky along the Northern Sea Route. "


March 6, Friday. The pipelayer "Akademik Chersky", accompanied by ships of the Russian Navy, passed Sri Lanka. The vessel abandoned the northern route and headed towards the Suez Canal.


On the same day, an expanded meeting of the monitoring committee of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries OPEC in Vienna failed. The Russian delegation, which is not a member of OPEC, did not accept the proposal to reduce production quotas and left the meeting.

Oil quotes on March 6 were still at $ 45,5 per barrel for Brent and $ 49,52 for WTI. However, the exchanges were already preparing for a massive fall in prices.

The world is on the verge of a new large-scale oil crisis. At that time, few people still understood that if the crisis dragged on even for the duration of the anti-virus quarantine, its consequences would be, if not catastrophic, then unpredictable. And the well-known events of the 70s of the last century will seem like a cheap performance, albeit very well directed.

Spring without hope


March 2020 year. Saudi Arabia announces the start of an unprecedented campaign to increase oil production - by early April to 12,3 million barrels. At the same time, oil production in Russia remains at 11,3 million barrels.

Saudi Aramco, a national oil company, is plummeting. Brent crude oil for two trading sessions fell in price by 27% at once - to 35,73 dollars per barrel.

At the same time, in Russia, there was a drop in the national currency rate to 82–83 rubles per euro and 76–78 rubles. per US dollar.


US President Donald Trump says that low prices for hydrocarbons are beneficial to the global economy, as they stimulate the growth of other industries. The White House owner then instructs the Secretary of Energy to purchase, at a very good price, a large amount of crude oil for storage in the US strategic reserve.

The Fed announces the preparation of the issue of dollars - up to several trillion, which does not even require the inclusion of a printing press. But the dollar exchange rate does not change, since it is clear that the emission will have to be absorbed by the whole world.

China begins active negotiations with Russia on large-scale purchases of hydrocarbons. Oil on this news and Trump's statements first stabilize in price, and then slowly begins to rise in price.

March 11, Wednesday. The World Health Organization WHO declares the outbreak of the coronavirus Covid-19 a pandemic.


In the United States, a campaign starts with the participation of the press and a number of officials for new sanctions against the Russian Gazprom and the Nord Stream 2 project.

March 13, Friday. Akademik Chersky is changing course due to the coronavirus pandemic and fears of sanctions. The captain of the vessel refuses to move through the Suez Canal and decides to continue sailing in the direction of Madagascar.

March 23, Monday. The bankruptcy procedure has begun for one of the US shale oil companies. Oil quotes reached a new minimum - a barrel of Brent was sold at $ 23,48. At the same time, this practically did not affect the rate of the Russian ruble.

March 28, Saturday. "Academician Chersky" passed Cape Town in South Africa and continued to sail along the coast of the African continent.

Jokes aside


April 1, Wednesday. The day when all restrictions on oil production in the countries participating in the OPEC + series of deals were officially lifted. The collapse of prices on the oil market, however, did not happen - it already took place in March ahead of the curve. Brent crude is quoted at $ 25,6 / bbl.

April 2020 year. The Akademik Chersky pipelayer changes its waypoint from Puente Noir in Congo to Las Palmas in the Canary Islands in Spain. According to the navigation portal Marine Traffic, the ship plans to arrive there on April 18.

US President Donald Trump declares the danger of low oil prices for the global economy, and then readiness to participate in the reduction of oil production.

Another attempt by Saudi Arabia and Russia to agree on a reduction in oil production levels ends in failure. However, Brent crude oil futures prices, which were currently falling below $ 20 / bbl, exceeded $ 30 for the first time in three weeks.

The ruble is starting to win back losses against world currencies.

False start


3 May, Sunday. "Akademik Chersky" stood up waiting for the entrance to the Kaliningrad Bay. It was planned that he would proceed to one of the shipbuilding and ship repair plants in the Kaliningrad region.

Formerly the newest tanker of the North fleet RF "Akademik Pashin" refueling the pipelayer in the English Channel.

May 7, Thursday. From Kaliningrad, KMTUS Akademik Chersky headed for the German port of Mukran, where the Nord Stream 2 logistic terminal is located.

South of Bornholm Island, in the area where the Swiss company Allseas under threat of US sanctions stopped work in December 2019, the research vessel Stril Explorer has begun work.


Photo: Axel Schmidt, axelschmidt.net

It specializes in external inspection of offshore pipelines.

May 14, Thursday. The Danish Energy Agency (DEA) has confirmed the issuance of a permit for the construction of Nord Stream 2. At the same time, conditions were put forward for the approval of the route, as well as the vessels and conditions for the construction of the gas pipeline. Due to the change of pipelayers, the DEA permission will have to be reconciled.

2 June, Tuesday. Russia re-registered KMTUS "Akademik Chersky" to the Samara heat and power property fund STIF. This made it possible to remove not only the issue of the previous version of the US sanctions, but also to outline a solution to the problem with the insurance of project participants.

Intermediate finish


26 June, Friday. Germany has announced its readiness to take retaliatory measures in case the United States imposes additional sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 project.

The Ministry of Economy of the Federal Republic of Germany recalled that

“New US sanctions could affect a significant number of European companies and banks, as well as government organizations. The damage can be serious - about 670 companies from 25 countries worked on the pipeline. ”

August 2020 KMTUS "Akademik Chersky" is located in the port of Mukran.

The Security Council of the Russian Federation announced the protection of the pipe-layer for the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. The Security Council called the measure necessary because of possible provocations from other countries.

As part of the construction of Nord Stream 2, the Russian Navy ships ensured the safe passage of the Akademik Chersky pipelayer and supply vessels from Vladivostok to Kaliningrad.


The OPEC Monitoring Committee notified the participants in the OPEC + agreement about the reduction of the total quota for limiting oil production from 9,7 million barrels per day to 7,7 million. The decision had practically no effect on oil quotes.

15 September, Tuesday. The supply vessel "Ivan Sidorenko" headed to the port of Mukran. There, next to the KMTUS "Akademik Chersky" there is an auxiliary vessel "Berghaus" used for underwater rock filling during the construction of offshore facilities.

2020 October, the Almost all countries in the world are introducing tough measures to combat the second wave of coronavirus. The Russian ruble again falls at the rate against the dollar and the euro to marks, respectively, in the region of 80 and 90 rubles.

The participants in the OPEC + deal decide to roll over the August reduction in the total quota for limiting production to 7,7 million barrels per day. Oil continues to be quoted at around $ 40 per barrel.

October 1, Thursday. The Danish authorities have approved a permit to operate Nord Stream 2 on the country's continental shelf. The permit, updated in accordance with the requirements put forward on May 14, was issued by the Danish Energy Agency.

October 20, Tuesday. The United States has extended sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. These are common to companies that provide services or facilities for retrofitting and installing equipment on pipe-laying vessels.

November 14, Saturday. It was announced that various options for completing the construction of Nord Stream 2 were being worked out, as well as the completion of ground work in Germany. Pipe-laying at the bottom of the Baltic Sea is still suspended.

December 5, Saturday. In the exclusive economic zone of Germany, work has been resumed on the laying of pipes for the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. The work is being carried out by the pipe-laying barge Fortuna under the Russian flag.

Delivery of equipment from the Nord Stream 2 logistics base from the German port of Mukran is provided by Russian supply vessels - Umka and Finval.

The ruble is strengthening against the main reserve currencies. Oil is quoted consistently above $ 45 per barrel.

December 8, Tuesday. KMTUS "Akademik Chersky" returns to Kaliningrad after a three-day stay south of the island. Bornholm.

At the same time, in accordance with the decision of the German Federal Office for Shipping and Hydrography (BSH), the pipe-laying barge Fortuna may continue to lay the pipeline.

The permit was granted for the period from 5 to 31 December 2020 in the area between the shallow waters of Adlergrund and the Oder Bank, where the operator of the Nord Stream 2 AG project plans to build a section (2,6 km long) on ​​each of the two branches of Nord Stream 2.


The procrastination of life is like


How long games of sanctions and all sorts of litigation can drag on, hardly anyone now understands. But due to the second wave of coronavirus, the very market situation, which was in a hurry for Nord Stream 2, now, in fact, slows it down.

It has only now become clear to many that Gazprom's ambitious project is directed not so much against American LNG as at the global hydrogen perspective. After that, it is not surprising that the passions have almost subsided.

In addition, the passionate Trump seems to be replaced by the "impartial" Biden. And this, too, is a chance not to play around the sanctions, but simply to lead the case towards their lifting. The question of in whose favor time will now play is obviously already becoming secondary.

In general, the situation now strongly resembles the famous remark of I. Stalin at the Yalta conference in 1945. The leader of the peoples then, as you know, simply asked the leaders of the allied countries - Roosevelt and Churchill, at what distance from Berlin their troops were.

Having received the answer - 600 kilometers, he immediately recalled that the Red Army approached the capital of the Third Reich for 60 kilometers. The question of who will take Berlin has disappeared by itself.

Gazprom's American opponents, who very soon will no longer need to be viewed as competitors, have a lot of time ahead. But Russian gas workers also have it, although the Nord Stream 2 project still needs to be completed.

The United States is really capable of increasing the volume of production and processing, and after that, the volume of supplies of their LNG to Europe, after overcoming the pandemic. Build up to the scale of real competition with Nord Stream 2.

But then the demand for gas may already grow. And so much so that it will be enough for both American LNG and a couple of analogues of the long-suffering Nord Stream 2.
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  1. +1
    10 December 2020 10: 07
    I twist and twist, I want to confuse laughing I also don’t understand why Chersky swims here and there. Maybe it should.
    1. +8
      10 December 2020 10: 50
      In general, the situation now strongly resembles the famous remark of I. Stalin at the Yalta conference in 1945

      1. Comrade Stalin did not sell gas to the bourgeoisie. Nothing in common.
      2. Comrade Stalin
      SO
      did not humiliate the Soviet state so that some capitalists could sell gas from the depths of Russia to other capitalists.
      1. +14
        10 December 2020 12: 56
        Quote: Civil
        1. Comrade Stalin did not sell gas to the bourgeoisie. Nothing in common.

        Comrade Stalin did not have the volume of gas that is today and was in the second half of the 20th century. He had oil, and he exported it, for example, in 1930, oil exports from the USSR amounted to 4,71 million tons for 157 million rubles. Of these, oil products - 4,42 million tons and crude oil - 294 thousand tons. It's just that the state of development of industry and oil production was such that only this allowed, taking into account domestic consumption.
        Quote: Civil
        2. Comrade Stalin SO did not humiliate the Soviet state

        You have hardly experienced Comrade Stalin's time in terms of methods of organizing state building. But even if they just studied from history textbooks, and especially if they studied the dialectics of the historical process in the course of higher education, then they should understand that at different historical stages it is possible that certain types of personality come to the leadership of countries, at other stages - radically different types of personalities. In 1917, it is impossible to imagine the passage of people like Gorbachev to the leadership, at the same time, the passage of Stalin in the Brezhnev era would also have minimal chances. Therefore, today it is impossible to directly impose and compare the systems of leadership of different historical eras. Moreover, the history cannot be replayed in the return line. Therefore, historical eras have many differences. But there is something in common - politics as the art of the possible. That Stalin and Putin, both of them solve the tasks facing them within the limits of the opportunities that are provided to them by the current situation, the behavior of other players of geopolitics, the capabilities of their own countries as resources of influence on these outside players. It's like boxing. It seems that all meetings are the same - two players are stuffing each other's faces, but each meeting despairs with a pattern of battle, with the maximum use of all possible forces by the rivals. Bottom line: if Chersky swims here and there, then there are some compelling reasons for him to swim like that. It's just that not everyone writes to us about this in print and speaks on TV.
        1. +1
          10 December 2020 18: 00
          Quote: Hagen
          Bottom line: if Chersky swims here and there, then there are some compelling reasons for him to swim like that.

          Oh, not a fact. Taking into account my knowledge of how large companies (especially state ones) are able to engage in taftology and eyewash, depicting vigorous activity - Chersky's tossing and crying can easily be aimless throwing.
        2. Aag
          0
          11 December 2020 19: 22
          Often I build my conclusions (sorry for the pathos)) based on such estimates.
          And I catch myself thinking (again self-promotion) that in this way you can justify EVERYTHING! Become awkward, ashamed in front of yourself.
          If closer to the topic of the article, then when the question arose about the additional laying "a little more than a hundred kilometers"? Then it turned out-190 km, -not the point. The main thing is nothing, then it was found (just finalized, distilled, guarded, -try to convince me that it was not for people's penny ...) That is, it turns out that V.V. Ptin has fewer opportunities? Than J.V. Stalin? Maybe there was less time? Ah-ah, the people went lazy ...
          I’m not mocking at you, your theses, I’m thinking, who’s to blame, and what to do ... hi
          1. 0
            11 December 2020 19: 40
            Quote: AAG
            try to convince me that it's not for the people's penny ...)

            What for? How can I benefit from trying to convince you of something? If you do not know how the investment programs of a separate legal entity are built, but want to know this, then there are corresponding textbooks for this. If you don’t want to know, then I don’t need to explain. Are you proposing to compare the capabilities of Putin and Stalin? I do not think that this is generally possible in any more or less correct form. Different starting conditions, different peoples in their perception of the world, governed by them. Everything is different except geography. Times are different. For example, if you were placed at the end of the 19th century, would you be more successful today?
            Quote: AAG
            A-a-a, lazy people went ...

            Not at all. But on a narrow-gauge railway in a rainy late autumn in ragged bots, under the exclamation "there will be no change", you are unlikely to assemble a construction team ... Yes, rather, you will not go yourself. I'm wrong?
            Quote: AAG
            I’m not mocking at you, your theses, I’m thinking, who’s to blame, and what to do ...

            You try not to mock, but to refute.
            1. Aag
              0
              13 December 2020 14: 34
              Greetings!
              I'll start from the end.
              Quote: AAG
              I’m not mocking at you, your theses, I’m thinking, who’s to blame, and what to do ...
              I'm sorry, I was too lazy to put the word scoffing in quotes, which, probably, caused your rejection to your comment. hi
              "... If you do not know how the investment programs of a separate legal entity are built ..."
              Very distantly. And I do not pretend to deep knowledge. It's just that this "separate legal entity" extracts, pumps, sells wealth that once belonged to the people. And it is "separate" in terms of profit (about taxes to the budget in the course ...) only arise, difficulties (objective, subjective), (geopolitics, competition, planning and management errors), they, difficulties, become state, again nationwide. Or did Gazprom "chartered" the Navy ships at its own expense?
              "... You propose to compare the capabilities of Putin and Stalin? ..."
              No. I propose to compare the achieved result. And take into account that Stalin's "starting conditions" were incomparably more difficult, more difficult. Isn't that so?
              Quote: AAG
              A-a-a, lazy people went ...

              "Not at all. But on a narrow-gauge railway in a rainy late autumn in ragged bots, under the exclamation of" there will be no change ", you are unlikely to assemble a construction team ... Yes, rather, you will not go yourself. Am I wrong?"
              The people ... became "softer")). Well, so far, no one has canceled the course of history, the development of civilization, on which you are pushing. In more acceptable conditions, sometimes for good money, both pipes and power lines are pulled (there are acquaintances ...). Only the motivation is different!
              Whether this is good or bad is a question of another discussion, and the fact that a mistake, miscalculation, betrayal of a manager, a leader will devalue the work of a large number of hard workers, leave them without salary, and (or) jobs, and will not lead to the responsibility of the culprit -unambiguous evil. In any case.

              The exclamation "there will be no change" was very popular with us in the 90s, when they put a regiment on the base, in the 00s, when there was a wildly incomplete staff. Two or three weeks on the base, almost the norm. Slept off, outfit, - They didn't live in dugouts, of course - in 2-room apartments for 25-28 people, in shifts, in an unfinished house. And this was. It greatly contributes to the development of disability (N. Ostrovsky, by the way, had the same sore )). So yes, myself, I probably won't go ...
              And I do not see an urgent need to send others, "in equal bots". IMHO, there is enough DESIRE and competence, leadership to develop the Country. Not at the expense of the people, but relying on, thanks to ... And the planned economy, even under capitalism, was theoretically substantiated long ago, and in some places practically confirmed ... hi
              1. 0
                13 December 2020 17: 49
                Quote: AAG
                Or did Gazprom "chartered" the Navy ships at its own expense?

                Why are you asking me this question? Can't you find out yourself? Everything is in the public domain, including the accounting reports of the JSC.
                Quote: AAG
                Simply, this "separate legal entity" extracts, pumps, sells wealth that once belonged to the people.

                You forgot to add that this legal entity fully pays those taxes to the budget that are established by the state. Ie the people of this state receive that part of the money from the sale of resources that is established by law. So do not worry, you, I and all other citizens of Russia get yours from natural resources.
                Quote: AAG
                Stalin's "starting conditions" were incomparably more difficult, more difficult. Isn't that so?

                I do not argue. But the methods of achieving success were, to put it mildly, different from those used by the authorities today. By those methods, we would have met with you and all the commentators at VO at a face-to-face "conference" somewhere near Magadan. And those who were not taken into the first party would glorify the CPSU (b) loudly. Or are you in doubt?
                Quote: AAG
                I propose to compare the achieved result.

                Could be so. Only for this we need not emotions, but full-fledged statistics on this and this time, which neither you nor I have. Therefore, I will shy away from such a comparison. On the other hand, what does this comparison give? Resurrect Stalin? Will push the economy today? The most that this comparison is capable of, it will give energy in the study of the personalities of candidates for elected positions. Which, in principle, is not bad. In any case, I have already expressed my opinion about these comparisons. Do you disagree? Your right.
                1. Aag
                  0
                  13 December 2020 21: 46
                  "... Why are you asking me this question? .."
                  Then, that you, sort of like, advocate, justify that "a separate legal entity", - I do not cling to words, - I try to stay within the framework of the article under discussion (unfortunately, there are such things in abundance, IMHO), fattens when country ... hard ...
                  "... Everything is in the public domain, including the accounting reports of the OJSC."
                  The weather forecast is openly available!
                  You look at the thermometer, - you start to think, well, who needs these "falsifications"? They recently threw off the information on the income of the top manager of VTB Bank .... Comparable with the income of the bank itself per unit of time. How do you treat such information? I am disbelieving. Moreover, from both sides. The only thing that becomes unambiguous is that the truth is not given to us. Maybe not really, and we need it (the example of the USSR), - there would be a result! Not without drawbacks, excesses. world estimates of that time. Yes, and according to the present, it was incomparably better. (I'm sure you will not start comparing the number of cars, smartphones in the Union and the Russian Federation).
                  "..You forgot to add that this legal entity pays in full those taxes to the budget that are established by the state ..."
                  I have not forgotten, please read more carefully: "about taxes to the budget in the course ..."
                  But as to who, how, on the basis of what, in what amounts, etc., establishes the order and amount of taxes, there are questions. Please do not refer to my ignorance in these matters. Everything that cannot be explained in general terms , popular, -profonatsiya. Excuses ... "ours" look unconvincing.
                  "... the methods of achieving success were, to put it mildly, different from those used by the authorities today ..."
                  Undoubtedly ... How much time has passed, another century ... Only ... Only no methods, methods, mechanisms for ACHIEVING SUCCESS. I did not identify (though, I tried). ICD-imitation of seething activity. It's scary to think about motivation. Self-interest, -the lesser of the evils that come to mind. It scares me that I'm not the only one like that, -two is the fact that there are more and more of them, and by no means everyone is trying to understand, to compare in a historical format ... in short, it falls into Tikhanovism, bulk.
                  "... By those methods, we would have met with you and all the commentators on VO at a full-time" conference "somewhere near Magadan. And those who were not included in the first party would glorify the CPSU (b) with all their voices. Or are you in doubt? ... "
                  Well, not all the commentators would have ended up with us ... Nearby, -maybe, twists, and not always by malice, -part, by delusion ...
                  Methods are also evolving. Sometimes you wonder that people are sprinkling in the nets!? Provocateurs? (Neither of them are attractive to me).
                  Regarding the glorification of the "VKP (b)" - probably, there are ideological (leaving the Moscow Ring Road on separate invitations), there are, apparently, those who, as you put it, were not included in the first batch. a basket of cookies, a barrel of jam "...
                  '... Only for this we need not emotions, but full-fledged statistics on this and this time, which neither you nor I have ... "
                  I have already expressed my attitude to statistics. During the time of Roskomstat, this is a separate song. Therefore, we may not recognize the numbers. Not the essence. Under Stalin (just as a time interval, from the stories of relatives), Brezhnev (personal experience) living conditions became better, the importance of the country in the world arena increased. And, most importantly, there was confidence that it would continue to be so! Of course, few people believed in communism in a single country and throughout the world. But few doubted progress.
                  "... what will this comparison give? Will it resurrect Stalin? ..."
                  No, of course. It's good if it encourages some to study the issue. Yes, at least to talk with their relatives, and not read, watch the interested Internet ...
                  "... The maximum that this comparison is capable of, it will give energy in the study of the personalities of candidates for elected positions. Which, in principle, is not bad ...."
                  I agree! About what I wrote a little higher ... There are, however, some doubts about the "selectivity".
                  Thanks for the "dialogue". hi
                  1. +2
                    14 December 2020 07: 33
                    Quote: AAG
                    Then, that you, kind of like, advocate, justify that "a separate legal entity"

                    In fact, the largest amount that Gazprom pays to the budget is the tax on natural resources extraction (MET). Accordingly, everything that contributes to the expansion of gas sales automatically contributes to an increase in the volume of these payments. In addition, the state profits from the work of the company as a shareholder. Here the income is less. But it is here that losses arise when some of the enterprise's projects collapse. All invest. programs (including the freight of ships, and the purchase of pipe products, and the payment of fines, and all operating activities are built at the expense of the enterprise's own funds or borrowed funds for long-term loans. This is the alphabet of the modern economy. Therefore, when they talk about some additional costs Gazprom, this applies only to him and the state, but only in terms of the lost dividends (not a large amount). However, when submitting materials by journalists, there is always a sort of modern feature, taken over from Western media - any news is presented necessarily in a "twisted" state, as scandal or sensation. This is a tactic of journalistic work on delivering news. Therefore, "fanning out of an elephant fly" is the media's method of attracting attention to itself and increasing readability. Healthy skepticism when reading headlines, and even the articles themselves, is a mandatory attribute of a modern media reader.
                    Quote: AAG
                    They recently threw off the information on the income of the top manager of VTB Bank .... It is comparable to the income of the bank itself per unit of time.

                    Well, what did you want when you switched to capitalism in the 90s? Personally, I am not happy with this. Already a long time ago I made a paradoxical conclusion for myself - it is the little money that is earned the hardest. On the other hand, we live in an open society, no matter how disgusting it is. And if the director of the bank, by the way, brought up in the USSR, considers it possible to receive a large salary, in the presence of general poverty, then this is an indicator of his education. Despite the fact that he receives salary from the funds of the institution, formed, as a rule, from his profits. How do you limit it, despite the fact that it is commercial and independent in its economic activities? In addition, directors of this level, as a rule, combine more than one position, and we see his total income. We do not like? Yes. On the other hand, no one bothers us to study and crawl to sky-high heights, among other things, and for salary. Once I was the head of the transport department of an oil enterprise, I was the head of the deputy general for transport, so he grew up from the drivers ... Yes, the whole oil industry is on the ground (I don't take Moscow, because I don't have information on average and senior level) is run by not hereditary "oil and gas pumps". Many of them started their careers with pomboos and grew up through correspondence at specialized universities. Ie it is possible ...
                    Quote: AAG
                    Well, not all the commentators would have ended up with us ... Nearby, -maybe, twists, and not always by malice, -part, by delusion ...

                    I agree. But the convoy service near Magadan is not sugar.
                    Quote: AAG
                    Two is something that there are more and more of them, and by no means everyone is trying to understand, compare in a historical format ... in short, it falls into Tikhanovism, bulk.

                    Not a fact at all. Society is conservative and is not drifting so rapidly into radicalism. But what cannot be taken away is that our skills to process the incoming information with high quality lags far behind the growth of its volume, and we sometimes simply drown in it, making hasty conclusions.
                    But there is a way to combat this ailment - to read the press less, and more - serious literature, choosing really worthy authors (applies to any topic).
                    Good luck to you. hi
      2. +2
        10 December 2020 17: 37
        Quote: Civil
        did not humiliate the Soviet state so that some capitalists could sell gas from the depths of Russia to other capitalists.

        I really want this venture to be covered with a "copper basin", it's enough to be a raw material appendage, and maybe then all Putin's ghouls will get away, ie. to the west, because they are so effective and there is no one to replace them, let them use their talents, in the world of decaying cash.
        1. 0
          10 December 2020 18: 06
          Quote: lis-ik
          and maybe then all Putin's ghouls will be removed, i.e. to the west

          They themselves will not clean up. We must clean up. Naturally, by legal means. Start with mandatory attendance at elections, then at meetings (agreed). And then maybe it will move. The authorities are absolutely satisfied with the inertia of citizens in the elections. The less comes, the easier it is to manipulate. hi
          1. +3
            10 December 2020 18: 27
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: lis-ik
            and maybe then all Putin's ghouls will be removed, i.e. to the west

            They themselves will not clean up. We must clean up. Naturally, by legal means. Start with mandatory attendance at elections, then at meetings (agreed). And then maybe it will move. The authorities are absolutely satisfied with the inertia of citizens in the elections. The less comes, the easier it is to manipulate. hi

            I agree, but our indifference and servility, before the authorities (in the bulk), are unlikely to allow this to be done. Recently, I admire the French (with their massive protests), although, as a nation, I don't particularly like it.
            1. -2
              10 December 2020 20: 32
              Quote: lis-ik
              servility, before the authorities

              Hurry, the belief that you will not achieve the truth. This is facilitated by the "most honest" elections, the "most impartial" courts, and many other state organizations.
        2. +3
          10 December 2020 18: 35
          Quote: lis-ik
          I really want this idea to be covered with a "copper basin"

          Vadik 237, a shareholder of Gazprom, wrote a year ago that the pipe would be connected in February, the month of this year ...
          1. +1
            10 December 2020 20: 32
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            a year ago he wrote that the pipe will be connected in February, the month of this year ...

            I really forgot to mention which ... wassat
            1. 0
              10 December 2020 20: 39
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              a year ago he wrote that the pipe will be connected in February, the month of this year ...

              I really forgot to mention which ... wassat

              Most likely the one that is called that our business is a "pipe".
            2. +4
              11 December 2020 18: 05
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              I really forgot to mention which ...

              I drew him a perspective ... Chopiki will be hammered into the pipes and that's it. And so it happened.
        3. +4
          10 December 2020 21: 47
          Quote: lis-ik
          I really want this idea to be covered with a "copper basin", it's enough to be a raw material appendage

          And the fact that the budget will go down by a third is nothing? The budget is pensions, the army with the police, schools, hospitals ... Do you have any idea how to replace the lost part of the budget?
          1. 0
            11 December 2020 18: 01
            Well, it is also stated that we got off the gas oil needle? Or are they blowing in your ears again? what request
            1. +1
              11 December 2020 18: 47
              Quote: 210ox
              Well, it is also stated that we got off the gas oil needle? Or are they blowing in your ears again?

              The question of "sitting on a needle" is a journalistic cliché. "Although not a single country in the world hesitates to use its natural resource for profit. Take the USA. They are ready to unleash a normal full-fledged military conflict, just to promote their LNG to Europe , that is, sit on the same needle, and no one in this case shouts to them - what are you? How can you? You sit on the needle! At the same time, I watched with pleasure how Putin "strained" gas workers in Tobolsk. that the West has taken a course to reduce the consumption of hydrocarbons, the best option for proactive action is the internal processing of the maximum volume of produced and the sale of goods with higher added value.
      3. +2
        11 December 2020 08: 40
        Quote: Civil
        Comrade Stalin did not sell gas to the bourgeoisie.

        Comrade Stalin was selling timber instead of gas ... in huge quantities.
        Quote: Civil
        Comrade Stalin
        SO
        did not humiliate the Soviet state so that some capitalists could sell gas from the depths of Russia to other capitalists.

        Do you know anything about foreign concessions on the territory of the USSR?
        1. +3
          11 December 2020 18: 08
          Quote: Serg65
          Comrade Stalin was selling timber instead of gas ... in huge quantities.

          Comrade Stalin built factories.
          1. +2
            14 December 2020 07: 40
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Comrade Stalin built factories.

            The factories were built only by Comrade Stalin?
            1. +2
              14 December 2020 07: 44
              Quote: Serg65
              The factories were built only by Comrade Stalin?

              Not only. But it was under him that the construction was most active. Two and a half five years, until Germany attacked. And even then, the sites in the depths of the country have been prepared.
      4. 0
        14 December 2020 00: 01
        Quote: Civil
        1. Comrade Stalin did not sell gas to the bourgeoisie. Nothing in common.

        but not that oil and grain were sold to the bourgeoisie and the fascists until 1941 Yes
        by so grossly distorting history you are likening Western propagandists.
        1. +1
          14 December 2020 00: 10
          Quote: SanichSan
          but not that oil and grain were sold to the bourgeoisie and the fascists until 1941

          And they built factories.
          1. -1
            14 December 2020 00: 16
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            And they built factories.

            quite right! soldier and collective farms having solved the problem of regular hunger. and science developed. and from the ruins raised the economy that withstood the hardest war.
            But with all this, why lie about the fact that they did not trade with the West? this is a direct gift for anti-Stalinist propagandists. obvious and easily exposed lie.
            By the way, are these guys accidentally not in the same team with the anti-Soviet?
            ps
            plus from me hi
            1. +1
              14 December 2020 00: 21
              Quote: SanichSan
              and collective farms solving the problem of regular hunger

              My grandfather and grandmother were collective farmers. Something they were not particularly hungry.
              1. -1
                14 December 2020 00: 29
                my great-grandfather died of hunger in 1932 on a collective farm. with the collective farms, it did not work out all right, but in the end they organized it.
                and the grandfather from the collective farm was sent to the flight school. I learned to be a pilot, fought the whole war on a fighter. without the Soviet system one could not even dream of such a thing.
                1. +1
                  14 December 2020 00: 35
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  and the grandfather from the collective farm was sent to the flight school.

                  And grandmother and grandfather taught to read and write. Moreover, they also learned how to use mehan. The grandfather was from a shepherd to a mechanic instructor. And after the penal battalion they were sent to the mine. Where he got three hundred rubles with something.
            2. +1
              14 December 2020 00: 30
              Quote: SanichSan
              Why lie about the fact that they did not trade with the West?

              Who's lying then? And specialists were discharged from the states. When they were depressed.
              1. 0
                14 December 2020 00: 41
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Who's lying then?

                read the second comment from above. I answered him. guy lies like Trotsky wink
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And specialists were discharged from the states. When they were depressed.

                right. not only discharged. many studied there. cooperation was mutually beneficial, but destructive for Western civilization. there was no depression in the USSR wink as a result, the iron curtain. put it on the USSR, and the West.
                1. +1
                  14 December 2020 00: 46
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  many studied there.

                  That's it. Perestroika Yakovlev, together with the traitor Kalugin, studied in the same group at Columbia University.
                  1. +2
                    14 December 2020 00: 51
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Perestroika Yakovlev, together with the traitor Kalugin, studied in the same group at Columbia University.

                    and that's it? only these? about how many Soviet engineers and workers of high qualifications were trained, we will not remember wink a couple of freaks and that means they were all like that?
                    1. -1
                      14 December 2020 00: 52
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      and that's it? only these?

                      Not only. Name Chubais? Putin?
                      1. +1
                        14 December 2020 00: 55
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Name Chubais? Putin?

                        hmm .. and Putin then with a drink? when he studied in the west?
                      2. +1
                        14 December 2020 01: 00
                        And in the 90s.
                        So, in the mid-1990s, Vladimir Putin was one of three thousand "reformist political activists" sent to the United States for training under the NDI (National Democratic Institute) and IRI (International Republican Institute) programs. These trips were sponsored by the American budget, with more than $ 17 million spent in total. Interestingly, Putin received training through the NDI, one of whose consultants at the time was the current US Ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul.

                        https://newsland.com/community/129/content/v-seredine-90-ykh-kandidat-putin-prokhodil-spetsialnuiu-podgotovku-v-ssha/6239932
                      3. +2
                        14 December 2020 01: 10
                        fun laughing the primary source mentions that Putin's candidacy for the presidency was considered by his "instructors" as not beneficial for the United States wink as by the way it happened.
                        "Ironically, among the roughly 1992 'reformist political activists' who took part in 1996-XNUMX. `` training '' along the aforementioned American programs, there was also Vladimir Putin (with representatives of the National Democratic Institute worked with him), now characterized by Michael McFaul, who for many years was a consultant to the NDI in Moscow, as a potential `` Russian Milosevic '', whose election President of Russia is not a "positive step" for US interests."
                        if anything, article 2001.
                        so this is more Putin propaganda than dirt on Putin wink
                      4. 0
                        14 December 2020 01: 13
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Putin's candidacy for the presidency was viewed by his "instructors" as not beneficial for the United States, which, incidentally, happened.

                        What, what? Borya the drunk called Clinton and said that Billy would make friends with Putin.
                      5. 0
                        14 December 2020 01: 17
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Borya the drunk called Clinton and said that Billy would make friends with Putin.

                        borya drunk said a lot and even pissed on the chassis! So what? wassat
                        check out the source. there is a link in the article. wink
                      6. 0
                        14 December 2020 01: 24
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        check out the source. there is a link in the article.

                        Why should I meet, I already remember.
                      7. 0
                        14 December 2020 01: 59
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I already remember

                        Danubyn.

                        In the article you linked to, there is a link to another article, to this one here:


                        And in this article there is a phrase:

                        Ironically, among the roughly 1992 'reformist political activists' who took part in 1996-XNUMX. 'training' under the aforementioned American programs was and Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin..., currently characterized by Michael McFaul ... as a potential 'Russian Milosevic' whose election as president of Russia is not a 'positive step' for US interests

                        Currently - this is in June 2001, if ...
                      8. 0
                        14 December 2020 02: 04
                        Quote: SaltY
                        Currently - this is in June 2001, if ...

                        What's the difference? I'm not particularly young, I remember how Yolkin praised Putin on NTV.
                      9. +1
                        14 December 2020 02: 29
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I ... remember how Yolkin Putin praised on NTV

                        Well, to say it ... the flyworm was wrong. But McFaul was not mistaken. Vrazhin, but literate good

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Who cares?

                        Yes, no, practical ... One, ahem ... loves, the other is teasing laughing

                        And the head is given to a person not only to wear a hat (s) not me.
                      10. +1
                        14 December 2020 02: 31
                        Quote: SaltY
                        And the head is given to a person not only to wear a hat (s) not me.

                        By itself. I still eat her.
                      11. 0
                        14 December 2020 02: 39
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: SaltY
                        And the head is given to a person not only to wear a hat (s) not me.

                        By itself. I still eat her.

                        The original is a little different:

                        Interview with a famous boxer:
                        - Why do you need such strong legs?
                        - Well ...
                        - This is probably to be dexterous and leave the line of attack in time?
                        - Oh, yes ...
                        - Why do you need such strong hands?
                        - Well ...
                        - This is probably to inflict strong blows on the opponent?
                        - Yeah ...
                        - Why do you need a head? Probably in order to calculate the battle strategy and tactical combinations?
                        - Yeah ... And I also eat in it...
                    2. +1
                      14 December 2020 00: 56
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      a couple of freaks

                      Marine platoon Yakovlev and KGB general Kalugin - a couple of freaks? laughing
                      1. -1
                        14 December 2020 01: 14
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Marine platoon Yakovlev

                        which marine? I'm talking about Aleksandr Nikolaevich Yakovlev.
                      2. +1
                        14 December 2020 01: 20
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Marine platoon Yakovlev

                        which marine? I'm talking about Aleksandr Nikolaevich Yakovlev.

                        Exactly. About him. He was wounded on the Volkhov front. Marine machine gunner. After Gorby, the chief rebuilder. Read his memoirs.
                      3. 0
                        14 December 2020 01: 26
                        and how does this affect the outcome?
                        Let me remind you that Vlasov was also quite a respected general of the Red Army until a certain moment ...
                        by the way there are opposite examples. Vladimir Gil-Rodionov received a hero of the Soviet Union for a reason.
                      4. -1
                        14 December 2020 01: 32
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Vlasov was also quite a respected general of the Red Army until a certain moment ...

                        Do not drive. Vlasov was lying with a cold, and the battle was led by Ensha. They made a hero out of Vlasov. The country needed heroes, but they made them out of bastards. Also to me, "dear". This "respected" cow dragged behind him and drank milk every day, when the soldiers ate belts from dead horses.
                      5. 0
                        16 December 2020 01: 19
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Do not drive.

                        Yes Yes. probably due to the fact that I'm chasing Vlasov, a special group was planted to withdraw him from the environment. for Vlasov, and not for Stalin's son, who was also surrounded and captured.
    2. +2
      10 December 2020 10: 51
      Quote: Fungus
      I twist and twist, I want to confuse

      Our Russian pipelayer "Akademik Chersky", like any other self-respecting ship, walks. A lot, long and tedious, so we can already say - wanders.

      Like a connecting rod bear, like a restless man "Flying Dutchman"...
    3. +7
      10 December 2020 12: 48

      In general, the situation now strongly resembles the famous remark of I. Stalin at the Yalta conference in 1945. The leader of the peoples then, as you know, simply asked the leaders of the allied countries - Roosevelt and Churchill, at what distance from Berlin their troops were.

      I would not compare the situation in Europe in 1945 with the current reality.
      And even more so the construction of Nord Stream 2 with the storming of Berlin.
      Much credit to Miller.
      All the talking heads from the boxes call on our people to unite around the "battle of the century".
      Oligarch sponsoring Echo of Moscow against the United States.
      Epic battle.
      The battle of the donkey with the goat.
      I would rather be engaged in gasification of Russia. Construction of gas processing plants in it.
      But no - the battle will continue ...
      Until the bitter end. It is not clear, however, whose ...
      And if Miller wins, whose victory will it be?
      Effective management ... or people?
      And "Academician Chersky" - let it float for now.
      How is it in the hole ... wink
      1. Fat
        0
        10 December 2020 14: 59
        Quote: Paul Siebert
        And if Miller wins, whose victory will it be?
        Effective management ... or people?

        That's interesting. More than 50% of the shares are owned by the state. 27% are "other persons". You may also be among them, if at one time you were concerned about buying shares of PJSC Gazprom. If not, you can buy a share for yourself in Gazprombank (of course, not at par, shares are an object of speculation)
        It is easy to get into the list of co-owners of Gazprom. All you need to do is buy one share of the company. This year, the dividend per one such security will be 14,44 rubles after deducting 13% of tax. So your share in the company will be 0,0000000042%.
        Source: https://greedisgood.one/spisok-aktsionerov-gazproma
        1. +1
          10 December 2020 17: 09
          Quote: Thick
          This year, the dividend per one such security will amount to 14,44 rubles after deducting 13% tax


          You are mistaken, it is assumed that 8,29 rubles will not be known as much or less. They will be determined closer to the summer.
    4. -4
      10 December 2020 14: 23
      It was just that the officials had to report that the stream would be completed and the first ship they came across was appointed. And the sailors do not know, there will be a surprise when they come ashore laughing
  2. +2
    10 December 2020 10: 12
    Chersky has probably made more than one round-the-world trip. laughing
  3. +13
    10 December 2020 10: 12
    that it is just right to hand out awards to the team.
    I don’t know, as a team, but Miller and top managers will be given away anyway! They will also write out fabulous awards!
    1. +10
      10 December 2020 10: 16
      Awards from the USA, awards from Gazprom.
  4. +5
    10 December 2020 10: 15
    In general, the situation now strongly resembles the famous remark of I. Stalin at the Yalta conference in 1945. The leader of the peoples then, as you know, simply asked the leaders of the allied countries - Roosevelt and Churchill, at what distance from Berlin their troops were.

    Having received the answer - 600 kilometers, he immediately recalled that the Red Army approached the capital of the Third Reich for 60 kilometers. The question of who will take Berlin has disappeared by itself.

    The Red Army was advancing on its tanks, with its own gasoline and ammunition. This is the fundamental difference
    1. +4
      10 December 2020 11: 23
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      This is the fundamental difference

      to be quite boring, then a lot of things American and British "attacked" in the ranks of the spacecraft and in gasoline with ammunition.
      But that's the details. But it did not attack at all for the sake of selling gas at any price.
  5. +1
    10 December 2020 10: 16
    December 8, Tuesday. KMTUS "Akademik Chersky" returns to Kaliningrad after a three-day stay south of the island. Bornholm.

    sucks and shirks from work smile
    But seriously, the barge is working on the very German coast.
    But what about the site in the area of ​​Denmark, over which there were disputes?
  6. +15
    10 December 2020 10: 18
    Explain to me why the article gives exchange rates and the cost of oil, given that it is about Chersky's wanderings? I probably do not understand because it is not an associate professor of E.N. Or is it stupid for the number of characters here to digest the price jumps?
    1. +8
      10 December 2020 10: 22
      convinced that there is no sense in rushing to finish the work, the situation has changed ...
      1. -1
        10 December 2020 10: 47
        Quote: Avior
        the situation has changed ...

        Competition in the market forces Gazprom to look for the cause of its problems not only outside, but also inside the country. "NOVATEK Yamal LNG is exempted - unlike Gazprom's fields - from paying severance tax and export duties, because of this, the budget did not receive 30 billion rubles At the same time, 7,6 million tons of LNG produced by the project in 2018 were sent to the European market.As a result, Russian pipeline gas, from which an export duty of 4,9% is paid, was squeezed out of the market, according to Gazprom. Vitaly Markelov proposes “to organize constant monitoring of LNG supplies from the Yamal LNG project with the involvement of the Russian Ministry of Finance in order to analyze the falling federal budget revenues from sending Russian LNG to the foreign markets of the presence of Russian pipeline gas.” He also believes that the existing benefits for LNG exports, namely the absence of export duties, should be revised. " We are waiting for NOVATEK's problems.
      2. +7
        10 December 2020 10: 53
        Quote: Avior
        convinced that there is no sense in rushing to finish the work, the situation has changed ...

        Like - " You (the people) misunderstood everything, the situation is not so clear "?
    2. +5
      10 December 2020 13: 17
      Quote: Choi
      Explain to me why the article gives exchange rates and the cost of oil, given that it is about Chersky's wanderings?

      The fee depends on the number of characters ...
  7. +1
    10 December 2020 10: 21
    The author for the lifting of sanctions will demand Crimea back and Donbass, Russia will go to this or the author of another dreamer about our capitalist Biden- = Trump? Well, the theses that then Russia will not have competitors is funny.
  8. +13
    10 December 2020 10: 32
    "Akademik Chersky", like any other self-respecting ship

    He is a ship
    1. +4
      10 December 2020 10: 59
      It's a steamer! hi
      1. +2
        10 December 2020 11: 21
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        It's a steamer!

        The man and the ship! hi
    2. +1
      10 December 2020 11: 26
      Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
      He is a ship

      judging by the fact that this is a serious economic war, then this is at least a "combat" ship laughing
      although he got excited .. to a serious economy. wars are far away. So far, only local sanctions.
      1. +2
        10 December 2020 11: 48
        Quote: Niel-le-Calais
        serious economic war

        To successfully conduct economic wars, for a start, you need to create something like economic troops. With its own "collective brain" - the General Staff. In our country, it is more like the wars of antiquity, when the result depended on the intuitive decisions of one or two separate characters, and on the talent (or lack thereof) of these "commanders". Analytical work is in its infancy, there is no one to work out operational plans (we are always looking "into the mouths" of world financial institutions, begging them for "recommendations" and, contrary to even common sense, putting those "recommendations" into practice), training of "fighters" is underway By pro-Western teachers on Western programs, the mechanisms of management are poorly developed, there is practically no proper communication between the subjects of economic activity, etc., etc. The existing ministries and departments perform in essence the role of an office, which merely formalizes decisions made by someone. They are not the brain, but the maximum is the spinal cord, which is badly damaged and not functioning properly.
    3. +2
      10 December 2020 19: 41
      He is a ship


      And the author is an associate professor.
      1. +3
        10 December 2020 19: 48
        Quote: Choi
        And the author is an associate professor

        This one, or what?
        1. +3
          10 December 2020 21: 17
          This one, or what?


          Judging by the graphomania in the articles of these authors, they cannot even steal a helmet.
  9. +2
    10 December 2020 10: 44
    recourse Still I didn’t understand ... We started with "Academician Chersky", ended up with jaws between the trump and the bayonet ... And even remembering Stalin and Yalta ...
  10. +6
    10 December 2020 10: 47
    The author wrote with three boxes and everything about nothing.
    The points!
    Biden is not Trump to whom the world order was in one place. Trump was a mountain for internal problems, Biden Globalist and it will not be possible to negotiate with him on the SP-2. At least on the conditions for which Russia is ready!
    Second! The defense budget has been adopted and not a single insurer and certifier in the world, from the conclusions and guarantees of which Denmark will accept, will contact SP-2.
    Third! What era of hydrogen do the authors write about if there is no infrastructure for production and consumption? What is this, so that would blur eyes and say yes we were preparing not to drive gas but hydrogen, so not in a hurry?
    And finally. Somehow, everyone passed by the fact that someone from the White House, a little more than a week ago, rolled to the Middle East. And somehow sharply the Qatartsi and the Saudis announced that they now have a peace of friendship with gum. And all these things.
    If on fingers, then the labor guys have already divided the European market for gas and oil. Moreover, at the expense of Russian oil and gas!
    1. +1
      10 December 2020 10: 58
      One of the few adequate comments!
    2. -1
      10 December 2020 11: 29
      Quote: dgonni
      If on fingers, then the labor guys have already divided the European market for gas and oil. Moreover, at the expense of Russian oil and gas!

      that is, the share of the Russian will fall. And when it was a third. And stable. The source of euro and dollars. filling.
      In general, the principle of uniting the market against one supplier? After Munich?
      1. -1
        10 December 2020 11: 35
        In fact, yes. Qatar shares the gas market with the mattresses, and the Saudis share the oil market with the mattresses. Well, amicably so to speak. Russian interests sideways and at the expense of Russia.
        1. -1
          11 December 2020 00: 51
          Quote: dgonni
          Well, amicably so to speak. Russian interests sideways and at the expense of Russia.

          the cake (market) dries up due to quantity. (price falls)
          to throw someone out of the market under the pretext of perfect.
          The least protected part is the Russian part.
          The rest can work together.
          Prize-share of the Russian Federation. Proportionally.
          You need to fight for your market, look for allies, not sell them. In general, what the competitors are doing.
  11. 0
    10 December 2020 10: 48
    "Academician Chersky" does not walk, but fornicates.
    1. +6
      10 December 2020 10: 56
      Quote: mag nit
      "Academician Chersky" does not walk, but fornicates.


      It turns out that our National treasure - Gazprom falls into sin?
  12. +1
    10 December 2020 10: 55
    Quote: dgonni
    Third! What era of hydrogen do the authors write about if there is no infrastructure for production and consumption? What is this, so that would blur eyes and say yes we were preparing not to drive gas but hydrogen, so not in a hurry?

    Indeed, they are going to switch to hydrogen, but the Europeans, not Russia.
    1. bar
      +4
      10 December 2020 11: 16
      Indeed, they are going to switch to hydrogen, but the Europeans, not Russia.

      Did I miss something? After the deposits of electricity, the Europeans also discovered deposits of hydrogen somewhere? recourse
      1. +1
        11 December 2020 00: 40
        Quote: bar
        After the deposits of electricity, the Europeans also found deposits of hydrogen somewhere?

        good drinks
        Deuterium and tritium deposits have also been explored.
      2. 0
        11 December 2020 01: 09
        Quote: bar
        hydrogen deposits

        Seriously: I recently read in the book "Interestingly about energy" (Chirkov Yu. G., 1981) about futuristic projects to produce hydrogen using "green" energy (well, in Vyborg, chickens don't peck it!), Transport it through pipelines and "burn" in fuel cells. True, with the latter, it's not very ...
  13. -1
    10 December 2020 11: 04
    December 2020 is already ending.
  14. bar
    -2
    10 December 2020 11: 13
    The capital is already shining for this "pipelayer". It has exhausted its resource without laying a single pipe.
    1. 0
      12 December 2020 12: 00
      "What are you dreaming about, cruiser Aurora"?
      "Chersky" will be repaired and put into an eternal parking lot next to "Aurora".
  15. +7
    10 December 2020 11: 27
    I wonder what part of the article the doctor of economic sciences wrote? About the "global hydrogen perspective"?
  16. -1
    10 December 2020 11: 34
    Of course, there are people smarter than me at GAZPROM. I do not argue. But why then can't they build a gas pipeline? What's stopping them? What do I think? ..
  17. -1
    10 December 2020 11: 59
    The Germans gave the go-ahead, what's the problem again? fool We are building! drinks
    1. bar
      0
      12 December 2020 13: 48
      The Germans gave the go-ahead, what's the problem again? fool Building!

      It's early to rejoice. The Germans have only a dozen kilometers of shallow water near the coast, where an anchored barge can work. The rest is with the Danes, who do not like the barge, and with whom everything is ambiguous. recourse
  18. +1
    10 December 2020 12: 53
    Where are we going with Piglet?
    Big, big secret!
    Seriously, a visual on The Flying Dutchman.
  19. +2
    10 December 2020 13: 11
    ".... It has become clear to many just now that Gazprom's ambitious project is directed not so much against American LNG as at the global hydrogen perspective. After that, it is not surprising that passions have almost subsided ...."
    Experts say that the pipe laid along the SP-2 can pass a gas mixture with a hydrogen content of no more than 50% through itself. Pure technical hydrogen cannot be driven through it, it is too aggressive. The pipe through which gas is supplied to Ust-Luga can pass a mixture with a hydrogen content of no more than 30%. How this fits into the global hydrogen policy, I cannot say. But I understand that not everything is so simple. After all, there are also other pipes, with other owners, that are connected to SP-2 on the other side.
  20. -5
    10 December 2020 13: 21
    According to the resource marinetraffic.com Chersky left, and Fortuna arrived at the construction site. In theory, work should resume soon ...

    Although there is not much to be happy about. If the SP-2 is completed, the Americans will immediately respond in the Middle East. Our military contingent in Syria may be under attack ...
    1. -2
      10 December 2020 14: 44
      Although there is not much to be happy about. If you finish building SP-2

      There we are talking about several kilometers off the coast of Germany ..
      At this depth, sanctions do not prohibit work.
      So even "if they finish building" - then only this section ..

      The German Federal Office for Shipping and Hydrography (BSH) previously noted that Fortuna will carry out work from 5 to 31 December.

      The barge is planned to be used for a 2,6-kilometer section between the shallow waters of Adlergrund and the Oder Bank, that is, in German waters.


      The military contingent has nothing to do with it .. Under attack are German (and world) companies that risk being involved in this pipe ..
      1. -3
        10 December 2020 16: 46
        Relax, seriously ...
  21. +2
    10 December 2020 18: 06
    In short, instead of working, "Chersky" does what is written in the first lines of the article. Dangling across the Baltic, "like a violet in an ice hole!"
  22. bad
    +14
    11 December 2020 12: 02
    The conclusion is that it is risky to enter the international arena without a strong Navy.
  23. 0
    14 December 2020 11: 39
    They have been writing about Chersky for a whole year! And the author decided not to stand aside and, what had already set the teeth on edge, decided to combine in one article. When it starts to work, then please people, and this is from empty, yes to empty ... For what?
  24. 0
    17 December 2020 10: 34
    I do not understand the maneuvers of the "Academician Chersky", it dangles back and forth, burns fuel and money, as if we have a lot of them !!!