Estonia starts fencing itself off from Russia with a barbed wire fence

Estonia began to fence itself off from Russia with a barbed wire fence. According to Egert Belichev, head of the border division of the Police and Border Guard Board, the first 1 km section of the Estonian-Russian border has been developed in southeastern Estonia.

In total, at the first stage, according to the Estonian official, 20,5 km of the border will be built. Currently, work is underway on the first 8 kilometers. As part of the border development program, all the necessary infrastructure is being built: roads for patrolling, communication systems, electricity and sewerage are being laid.

Half of the access roads and a kilometer of fencing are ready. There are elements that need to be added, but the fence itself is already standing

- the official said.

As previously reported, in order to prevent Russian penetration into Estonia, the Estonian side will install an electronic security system and plans to use Drones. Surveillance cameras and touch sensors will complement the 90 km fence with a height of 2,5 meters with barbed wire.

The total length of the Estonian-Russian border is 338 kilometers, of which 135 kilometers are by land, 126 kilometers by lakes, 176 kilometers by rivers.

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[Bolt cutter]

This is clearly to combat the smuggling of cigarettes and fuel, and not to deter hypothetical aggression.

[credo]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

This is clearly to combat the smuggling of cigarettes and fuel, and not to deter hypothetical aggression.

Russia should not assume, but proceed from the goals declared by Estonia, and when discussing any indulgences on the part of Russia, always take this fact into account as unfriendly.
By the way, this also applies to relations with Latvia and Lithuania - 0% transit and no indulgences from Russia.

[fruc]

Now let the cabinet and the state. the council will decide how to respond to the unfriendly step of estonia. Also in the shops they sell various bullshit from this country like "vana tallinn"

[Shiva83483]

An article in the Criminal Code - on illegal border crossing ... the exhaust on this forehead smear green ... in the place

[Shurik70]

"SHO, AGAIN?" (with)
Well, back in 1991, right after the collapse of the USSR, this fence was being built ... But somehow the funds "flowed away" quickly. Then they came back to the idea again and again. The Russian border guards, who were tired of catching the smugglers, even asked for funds to be thrown by neighbors for the fence.

[Civil]

Precisely, impoverished Estonians began to flee en masse to Russia.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Civil

Precisely, impoverished Estonians began to flee en masse to Russia.

In the early 90s it was. After joining the EU, they fled to the West.

Emigration from Estonia has not become as large-scale as in Latvia, thanks to a smaller number of Russian-speaking residents, a better economic situation and Finland's proximity, says Professor of the University of Tartu Tiit Tammaru.


Last week, many were shocked by the news of the Politico portal about the scale of emigration in Latvia. Compared to 2000, the country's population decreased from 2,38 million to 1,95 million.

Professor Tiit Tammaru, who deals with issues of urban geography and population geography, assures that there has not been such a large-scale decline in the number of inhabitants in Estonia. In 2000, 1 people lived in Estonia, at the beginning of this year - 370 people. It turns out that in 052 years the population has decreased by 1 inhabitants. That is, during this period the population of Estonia has decreased by only 315%, and in Latvia - by almost 635%. According to the professor, in fact, an even sharper outflow of residents in Estonia and Latvia occurred in the early 17s, when part of the Russian-speaking population emigrated from both countries. The next wave of emigration happened after joining the EU: borders were opened, and the difference in living standards was too great. People began to leave from all the countries of Eastern Europe. It was during this period that a lot of residents aged 54-417 left there.

“Basically, the poorer the region, the higher the emigration rate,” explains Tammaru.

The proximity of Finland was also a salvation for Estonia. The main destinations for the inhabitants of Latvia were Great Britain, Ireland and Germany, for the Estonians - Finland. “Many work in Finland, but have not moved to live there completely. In contrast to Latvia and Lithuania, the available transport links and the opportunity to work in Finland somewhat defused the labor market and helped to solve the problem of low wages, ”Tammaru says, the main factors that made emigration from Estonia less critical.

https://rus.ohtuleht.ee/853002/masshtabnaya-emigraciya-kto-pokidaet-estoniyu-i-pochemu

[pereselenec]

Quote: Civil

impoverished Estonians began to flee en masse to Russia.

Striving to get into Putin's middle class with a salary of 17,000 wooden ones?

[sergey32]

Estonians, of course, are great. Perhaps the most successful post-Soviet country in terms of economy and development. But it is necessary to subtract personal income tax from the average salary and make an adjustment for the price ratio. And 17000 is not a middle class, but deep poverty. It's a shame for our country that there are still such salaries. But now incomes are very different. For example, I have an official at the level of an average Estonian (not a manager) plus side jobs.

[zadorin1974]

Well, Ivan, let's try to decompose 1496 euros into the cost of energy and heat carriers, income tax, medical insurance and other related items. Here is the maintenance of MY house (not to be confused with a removable one) costs 600-720 rubles in summer electricity (in winter up to 1200r), pumping out the drive once every 3-4 months 800r 6 cubic meters, firewood for the house and a bath with a stock of about 15 cubic meters of chopped (lazy became) 14 thousand. Water is my own. I do not connect gas and central water supply yet, I think economically not profitable Well, there’s also a tax, once a year 1800r together with the land. Now my salary is 21-23 thousand (three days later). I don’t know my wife’s salary (I didn’t ask once, in principle). I can do the same for my son’s two-room apartment. schedule (except salary)
Here, roughly make the alignment in the Baltic States, then I will believe that we are being deceived by propaganda ..

[pereselenec]

Quote: zadorin1974

Well, Ivan, let's try to decompose 1496 euros into the cost of energy and heat carriers, income tax, medical insurance and other related items.

Let's!

https://lenta.ru/news/2019/03/07/vot_eto_povorot/

[zadorin1974]

I don’t need to push this nonsense Ivan What does Germany have to do with it (my friends live there, so I saw the valuables) and the Tribaltika ... You will lay out yours. I buy steamed pork in a farm store for 300 rubles. Potatoes for 15 rubles and bananas for my wife with a child for 70 rubles. Also give the cost of communication - I have Megafon-1500 minutes for any connection, 25 gigs during the day, unlimited at night - for all 480 rubles (20% discount for 14 years of friendship).

[pereselenec]

Likewise, I don’t need to push in rotten Olga manuals with a twisting on the navel and attempts to explain to the layman how he lives well. In countries where life is good, people do not have to PROVE this.
The question is why in the world's largest country with oil, gas, diamonds and all the periodic table, the average salary is several times less than in some kind of Estonia. This question, in the near future, will be more and more categorical. And no "Yyyyy, I have bought a sack of potatoes on the side of my grandmother for 15 rubles, we will fry it with lard, we will not die alive" this question cannot be raised.
Already in the poor and suffering 404, which has been freezing for the sixth consecutive winter without our gas, the minimum wage is higher than ours (https://lenta.ru/news/2020/08/25/minimum/) - a shame.
Yes, in fact, everyone can see everything, especially those who are not from Moscow and St. Petersburg.

[zadorin1974]

And YOU, my friend, is just a HAM)))) Do you lack the talent to answer motivated? Then scratch under the plinth, Perm Territory. So that I really see everything as it really is.

[pereselenec]

Quote: zadorin1974

And YOU, my friend, is just a HAM)))) Do you lack the talent to answer motivated? Then scratch under the plinth, Perm Territory. So that I really see everything as it really is.

3 comments for 15 rubles - already earned half a bucket of potatoes, congratulations :)

[zadorin1974]

I have been on VO for a very long time. For three or four years, there have been strong opponents with good education and weighty arguments on the site, at least a Professor (God bless him) And meteriisms, like YOU Ivan, are just childish babble. Weak)))) )

[builder]

Why did you burn so frankly about your earnings, without thinking, reprinted it from the manual?

[stas Sv]

You are probably very smart And the fact that this minimum wage is paid for MPE 18% and the tax on the military 1,5% you probably did not know ??? On the exhaust, a completely different amount is obtained, which is equal to 4025 hryvnia or 10460 rubles, or 142 dollars. Like this

[fa2998]

1496 euros is certainly good! But, I think the Estonian storytellers thought, they counted everyone in a bunch. Ours also count, it turns out under 50000 rubles / month! In Moscow, under 90000 rubles.

[Cutter]

I remember the ukrovoiny, led by "Rabbit", also built a ditch-wall ... Then he became a few bucks richer ... Maybe that's the same here ???

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

This is clearly to combat the smuggling of cigarettes and fuel, and not to deter hypothetical aggression.

Estonia starts fencing itself off from Russia with a barbed wire fence

This is most likely so that the Estonians still in Estonia, who did not have time to escape to the West, do not run away to Russia. Such a mini-concentration camp according to the behests of the forest brothers and Hitler's grandfather, only for their own Estonians.

[Bolt cutter]

Estonians who did not have time to escape to the West did not escape to Russia

No hectares to save Far East non-rubber

[VORON538]

And why is there a little something in the Far East?
We do not need them here in any form!

[Bolt cutter]

So where else can they flee through the forests and swamps from Estonia?

[VORON538]

We are far away, and they are not needed here!
And let them tear to CANADA!
There they will be adequately received by their former neighbors and comrades in misfortune! From the 404th!

[Bolt cutter]

Those who wish are already there, since they do not need a visa there either (online application). Those who remain over the fence to the east will not climb.

[pmkemcity]

In a country where everyone is sneaking along the fence, it's easy to ask for directions. They will tell you so - drive along the fence to the intersection with another fence, ask there. (Zhvanetsky)

[Volder]

I think this is so that the Estonians themselves do not run across the border to Russia.

[Orange bigg]

By the way, as in the case of Ukraine, where they also built a wall at first, and then got a mess from the West to send everyone to Europe and forbid their citizens to go to Russia. They even stopped allowing transport to the East. Here is the same topic. In any case, it looks like.

[Bolt cutter]

In Estonia, transport to the East works well and you can go there with an online visa, so no one will run there (except for smugglers) through the forest.

By the way, as in the case of Ukraine

It's incomparably fatter in Estonia.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

It's incomparably fatter in Estonia.

You cannot compare with Ukraine.

[Bolt cutter]

It is possible to compare, but not in favor of Ukraine. They have almost parity with Paraguay. Shl. The wall does not press you

[avg]

Today, contraband is not delivered through forests and swamps. So the expediency of this structure raises questions. There is an assumption that they were going to build back in the 90s, but for now they thought, while they collected money, then they thought a little more ...

[Bolt cutter]

contraband through forests and swamps are not delivered

All borderlands live on cigarettes. Two bags (they are light) and went. Euros from a bundle of earnings, and how much you can carry. With fuel, yes, it's more difficult.

[Dobrenko]

I won't say anything for cigarettes, but sanctioned products are only carried on the way (1 euro per kg);)

[Volder]

Quote: avg

So the expediency of this structure raises questions.

Banal cutting of the budget to warm your hands and fill your personal pockets - is this an option not considered? :)

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

This is clearly to combat the smuggling of cigarettes and fuel, and not to deter hypothetical aggression.

Oh, whether ...
I remember Yatsenyuk making a garden ... We have less trouble ... No passage - no problem.

[ccsr]

Quote: ROSS 42

I remember Yatsenyuk making a garden ...

Estonians had to invite Yatsenyuk for consultations, or appoint a foreman - he would have new real estate in America ...

[Kerensky]

The trouble. For a long time there was information that the contractor is Belarusian, and he buys the material from Russia - this is how the fence costs Estonians cheaper. So who builds it ?!

[dzvero]

Estonia uses European money to create jobs in Belarus and Russia ...

[Ru_Na]

Yatsenyuk's case lives on, the ukrozabor failed, so maybe the Estonian wattle fence can be overpowered)))

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Ru_Na

Yatsenyuk's case lives on, the ukrozabor failed, so maybe the Estonian wattle fence can be overpowered)))

Hello namesake!
The main difference from ukrozabor is that the Estonian wattle fence initially provides for sewage!

[Andre___86]

Well, let it go. What for us ..

[Sayan]

Why did he change his surname and citizenship to yayetsenyukhovichus and became a proud Estonian? )))

[HAM]

It looks like the Estonians are seriously planning to blow into Russia, as much as the authorities are concerned about such a disaster ...

[fruc]

According to the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation, in 2018 the foreign trade turnover between Russia and Estonia amounted to $ 3,07 billion (in 2017 - $ 2,62 billion), including Russian exports - $ 2,45 billion and imports - $ 616,9 million ...
The bulk of Russian exports are mineral products, chemical products, timber and pulp and paper products, metals and products from them, etc. Imports are represented by machines, equipment and vehicles, chemical products, metals and products from them, food products and agricultural raw materials and etc.
There is something to think about about export and import.

[akarfoxhound]

Does a rabbit from xoxlandia not work as an advisor for the Chukhons? Or does the State Department have a manual that does not change for an upgrade of pot thoughts?

[Reserve buildbat]

Now Estonian geese will not be able to treacherously emigrate to Russia!

[APASUS]

Democracy flooded, the more democracy there is, the higher the fences!
Where is the shark moat?

[Ros 56]

And how are we doing with the demarcation of this border?

[yfast]

power supply and sewerage are being laid.

Here is the second did not understand.

[7,62x54]

Sewerage along the border?
It is in the spirit of the Baltic states, to smile and shit at a neighbor under the fence.
Nothing, chopik forget it, it will flow into the return line.

[Alexander Kopychev]

Is it instead of a "battalion" or what? Well, the game is complete! And if the GDP goes on tanks? They know very well that he will not go! That's why they make faces ... Money down the drain - for health!

[Rusticolus]

Why is this money down the drain？ They will call it all a bug zoo and show it to tourists for money. Don't mind the percentage for the idea.

[Scharnhorst]

We will build our own fence when we return the Russian Narva and Yuryev. And all ethnically pure "citizens" - the white-eyed freak - will be deported without a trace. And then the liberals still offer Estonian autonomy in the Russian Federation!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

To prevent Estonians from escaping to Russia.

[rotmistr60]

Half of the access roads and a kilometer of fence are ready ... but the fence itself is already in place

The main fence for 1 km is already standing, and this costs a lot in the literal and figurative sense. Barbed wire and even a laid sewage system will naturally not help against a real Russian threat. But since there is no real threat, it means that you just need to show the "allies" that they are ready for repulsion with roads, communications and sewerage systems. Means what? That's right, the EU needs to fork out because Estonia protects its eastern borders.

[Slipper 2]

Yes, so that the tribals do not run away from the zone of pederasty

[Lord of the Sith]

As part of the border development program, all the necessary infrastructure is being built: roads for patrolling, communication systems, electricity and sewerage.

To shit in the wind along the border))

This campaign will be like the wall of Yaytsenyukh, big statements, they built 30 meters from a chain-link mesh in an open field, and the budget was thoroughly sawed))

[Maikcg]

To prevent Russia from entering Estonia ..

..a 2,5 meter high fence with barbed wire

[Cowbra]

Uzas, what's going on! From the south-west - Rabbit Tyn overhangs, as much as one and a half meters of an impassable fence made of poles with pots on top, from the west, combat sprats dug a ditch of increased obstruction so that the Russian biathlon team would not conquer them in a rage ... The Kaliningrad group in horror shot Iskander in the head.
Is this, excuse me, what kind of Estonia? Who came to Moscow in the person of the president to beg from Russia to resume transit? Well, now they will definitely resume, yes ...

[Kerensky]

The total length of the Estonian-Russian border is 338 kilometers, of which 135 kilometers are by land, 126 kilometers - along lakes, 176 kilometers - along rivers

That's where you had to start! Yaytsenyuk would have been tortured with envy. Hop! And he mastered the funds for the fence along the bottom of the lake ...

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

It is more convenient to dig anti-tank ditches on lakes, the budget is larger.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Civil

Precisely, impoverished Estonians began to flee en masse to Russia.

The Eurogeans regard the Tribals as second-class people; the Tribals are trying to compensate for this by the appropriate attitude towards Russian natives.

It is surprising that in Russia there are still light elves who believe in European values.

However, 2014 is just the beginning of the exodus of sanitizers to their climatic homeland. 

[samarin1969]

Yes, even minefields! Let the Trump-Light border be built at their own expense.

[Vladimir61]

Oh, how the West accused the USSR of the "iron curtain", relying not only on political issues, but also on the presence of engineering barriers along the borders, and now all over the world, including the USA, Israel, Turkey and the EU countries, are building real migration, prickly, concrete and other curtains.

[NF68]

Well done. Don't blow out another ditch. If you don't master the moat yourself, then you know who can help you.

[iouris]

What does it matter to us if these events are not funded by the federal budget?

[what's up]

Less of our gasoline, bypassing customs, will flow there!

[zwlad]

What fast Estonians!
Okraintsy long ago sawed the loot on a thorn, and it came to these currents that this was possible.