China begins construction of a new base to support space launches from an offshore platform

China has begun construction of a new facility that will allow launch vehicles into space from an offshore platform. According to local media reports, construction is underway on the east coast of the South Sea.

The Oriental Aerospace Port is being built near Haiyang City in Shandong Province, to complement the existing four launch sites on Hainan Island and in the outlying areas of Gansu, Sichuan and Shanxi provinces. China Rocket Co. Ltd. Is a subsidiary of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) and Haiyang City Council.

With the rapid development of the commercial aerospace industry, the demand for launches is increasing day by day. And sea-based missile launches are a powerful addition to traditional ground-based launches.

- said Wang Zhanyu, vice president of the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology.

It is noted that the production capacity of the base will be 20 solid-fuel missiles per year. The base will provide services such as assembling and testing missiles and launching missiles from offshore platforms for both Chinese and foreign customers. An aerospace industrial park, a port for servicing missile launches from an offshore platform and an aerospace tourism park are also planned in this area.

Recall that last June, China for the first time in its stories successfully launched the Changzheng-11 launch vehicle from an offshore platform.

Comments

[The leader of the Redskins]

Reading the news about the successes of China, I feel like a resident of some sort of Romania in the 80s, observing the successes of the USSR - there is a country nearby. With the same people, but with tremendous technological leaps!
I can't get used to the fact that as a child I lived in a Great Country, and now ...

[SaLaR]

Similarly .... ((And the further the more .......

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I can't get used to the fact that as a child I lived in a Great Country, and now ...

Well said, Kamrad! It is a pity that from that Great Country we have only memories and pride for our grandfathers.

[stalki]

Well said, Kamrad! It is a pity that from that Great Country we have only memories and pride for our grandfathers.

Our grandfathers made that country, so we are worse, shame on our heads. We lack a good belt from our grandfathers.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Reading the news about the successes of China, I feel like a resident of some sort of Romania in the 80s, observing the successes of the USSR

[Avior]

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[Finches]

We still live in a great country, which, simply, has not the easiest times - and your pessimism is in some way criminal! You need not whine - but work and think!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Finches

You need not whine - but work and think!

Here go and work! And do not sit out your pants for the people's money! And people will have enough to think without you.

[AVA77]

It was in the Soviet Union that people's money was, but now we have capitalism and to each his own.
So there is no need to lyala about eating people's money.
And who thinks what and how is not your concern at all.

[AVA77]

Should I ask your permission? not fucking? The site rules are not written for you. Go in a personal and write to Zhenya.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: AVA77

Should I ask your permission? not fucking? Site rules are not written for you.

I just said everything within the framework of the rules, but you start to be rude.
And leave this mentoring tone for the family.

[AVA77]

My tone, my concern. My family is my concern. I don't need your advice.

[hagen]

Quote: Stroporez

And then you already zadolbali advisers, they say you have to work, as if there are some mindless parasites sitting here. Advisors, damn it

Maybe not parasites. It would be a sin to call pensioners parasites, but there are enough brainless people here. Moreover, aggressive ...

[Finches]

And I, unlike some, paid my debt to the country according to the Oath in full and did not run away from the Army fearing difficulties - and now I teach and work at the university ...! I try to format the younger generation according to our Soviet requirements ... So you don't need to throw your stone into my garden - to the wrong address!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Finches

So you don't need to throw your stone into my garden - to the wrong address!

Then do not write stupid advice and slogans, there are no stupid and parasites here!
And many have given their debt to the Motherland beyond measure.

[Finches]

I don’t think that my belief that I live in a great country is stupidity! But I considered and will consider doubts about this among some citizens of our country, at least as latent selfishness, and as a maximum as a betrayal of the national interests of Russia and the Russian people! I hope I wrote it intelligibly!

[paul3390]

Betrayal of the national interests of Russia and the Russian people is capitalism and its henchmen at the head of state! This is what we see from the results of the 30 years that have passed since the death of the USSR ..

[Finches]

You write so indirectly that it tempts to ask a question - where were you in April 1985 and August 1991 ... Yes! Capitalism is not the most successful form of political and economic formation for Russia, but how to return to Socialism after 10 years of total and predatory neo-feudalism and with the first shades of 20 capitalism? So that without blood and devastation, the Era of Justice and Equality would come overnight? Do you have a prescription? Just don't be delusional that you need to replace Putin with Grudinin or Platoshkin - this recipe is good for children from the nursery group! And even then the kids will shower you with tomatoes ...

[Hypertension]

Quote: Finches

I try to format the younger generation according to our Soviet requirements ...

Is this yelling about the "damned Anglo-Saxons"? Weaving religion? You have strange "Soviet requirements" ...

By Soviet standards, it is necessary to educate the class rejection of the capitalists, and not to any nation.

[Finches]

Fans of the Anglo-Saxons pulled themselves up - what does it have to do with my personal view of the formation of ethnic groups and their culture-centric code with educational activities about the surrounding picture of the world? No! There is an approved work program and one should not step over it - carrying a gag (this is, by the way, the classical Soviet school of teaching), but I can give examples of how certain spheres of social life were built under Socialism and that they were more successful than those the same, but in a market economy! You, my friend, did not intervene in the conversation successfully - you mixed everything: blood, g ..., sand and sugar!

[Hypertension]

Quote: Finches

Fans of the Anglo-Saxons pulled themselves up - what does it have to do with my personal view of the formation of ethnic groups and their culture-centric code with educational activities about the surrounding picture of the world? No! There is an approved work program and should not be overstepped

No love for the Anglo-Saxons. There is no need to tell a fairy tale about the working program. It has long been noticed that a lot depends on the personality and charisma of the teacher: presentation of material, interpretation, etc. So I assumed that you, with your worldview, with your dislike for these very Anglo-Saxons, and at a supernatural level, as a teacher, are not very objective and not quite, frankly, adequate.

[Finches]

Yah? And say not a fan of the Angolsax! I judge by their actions through the prism of history in relation to humanity as a whole, and on what your belief in their holiness is based - I don't know! However, you do not surprise me - a lawyer should always happen - this is VO's corporate identity! Schopenhauers and Plevako in one bottle, or rather, on one site!

[Hypertension]

What nonsense, "teacher"? Well, where did you see my faith in their holiness? With every comment you make, I am convinced that as a teacher you are zero. You are biased, limited and use dirty tricks in your rhetoric, a la "whoever is not with us is against us."
Anglo-Saxons are hostile to us - here I do not argue. But to associate them with the devil or to expose them as absolute evil is a profanation.
Here you are opposing their civilization to the Russian / Russian civilization. And meanwhile, while these terrible Anglo-Saxons kept representatives of another race (not even nationality) in slavery, the Russian nobles kept Russian peasants in slavery. Well, who is "evil" and who is "good"?

[Finches]

Are you rude? Well, after clever people and lawyers, the next category of VO regulars is hamlo ... Most often they have nothing to say but to flaunt their absolute conviction that the opponent is zero! Buddy, don't get personal, discuss the topic - if you can!

[Hypertension]

Lawyers? For the Anglo-Saxons? Do they need them? This is the Anglo-Saxons minimum wage ~ $ 160?
I see you are a fan of gluing labels. I’m a fan of the Anglo-Saxons, then I’m hamlo ... Okay, excuse me if, in your opinion, I am naughty to you, but tell me, please, why is the Russian civilization better than the Anglo-Saxon one? In what way, in fact, is the exploitation of foreign peoples worse than the exploitation of one's own?

[Finches]

She is not better, only she is on the other side of the barricade - try to understand this! And if not, then not here - it will not change anything at all! Neither for me nor for you

[Hypertension]

Quote: Finches

She is not better, only she is on the other side of the barricade - try to understand this!

Yes, I just understand that. This is Hottentot morality. We are good because this is us. I have no more questions for you, teacher.

[Finches]

I am not a teacher, I am, first of all, a career officer of the Armed Forces of Russia, who gave almost three decades to the Motherland, if anything ... So Hottentot morality has nothing to do with it!

[Hypertension]

Perhaps, as an officer, you are even more or less, but making you a teacher was not a good idea, yes ...

[Finches]

Sorry, we forgot to ask you! But don't be upset - there are much more clever people like you ... in our education ... Maybe that's why under the Anglo-Saxons, young people, and not only young people, go to bed much quicker - after all, the minimum wage there is more than $ 160 - at what here is the Motherland ... But if at least 10% of my graduates think differently than you, then I am not eating my bread in vain! And I will have more%!

[Hypertension]

Young people gravitate towards the Anglo-Saxons because they lure them with the promise of a beautiful life. And if in Soviet times ideology was opposed to this, now there is no alternative to the Anglo-Saxon way of life in Russia.

Quote: Finches

if at least 10% of my graduates think differently than you

You ask your graduates: is it normal for a country like Russia to have a minimum wage of $ 160? Or did you put the thought into their heads that they have to be patient, that "this year was difficult" (c), that, they say, everything is about to get better? Look then how many percent will turn out.

[bayard]

Quote: Hyperion

You, with your worldview, with your dislike for these very Anglo-Saxons, and on a supernatural level, as a teacher, are not very objective and not quite, frankly speaking, adequate.

Come on, come on.
Another Russian intelligence officer, Colonel of the General Staff of Van Dam, at the turn of the last and the century before last said: "Worse than a war with the Anglo-Saxons can only be friendship with them."
Since then, nothing has changed.
Well, for polyglots and connoisseurs of ancient languages, it is known that the name of the father of lies is translated as LIAR and SLAVER ... well, there is also "a murderer from the beginning, who did not resist the truth ...".
So everything is in the pocket, about the characteristics of the nation.
"devilish"

[Hypertension]

Yes Yes. Anglo-Saxons are liars, and we all live in truth. The most honest and truthful people in our country end up in the government and the CEC. To be friends with the Anglo-Saxons is certainly bad. Whether it's the case with all sorts of Honduras ... The people there are simple, ingenuous ... They are the same as we are. They are also cheerful, sympathetic, do not steal or drink. The main thing is not to forget to forgive them debts and to throw some money from time to time. Well, so that they, for example, recognize the DPR. After all, it is so important in geopolitics for the country to be recognized by the conditional Nicaragua. Without this recognition, it is a shame to enter the UN as well ...

[bayard]

It's good that you are so self-critical.
But the "rulers" of the modern Russian Federation are the subjects of the British queen.
All those who have passed the rite of passage are as such.
So with regard to them, everything is fair - one field "husbands of the scapegoat."
\ for some reason, the robot bans even such an innocent name of a useful animal ... \

[The leader of the Redskins]

I am builder! Building houses. I can create a whole photo album of objects! So I'm laying my "brick", only it does not go into greatness, but into a support, so that what is left does not collapse completely!

[hagen]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I am builder! Building houses. I can create a whole photo album of objects!

And I am the operator of this set up by the builders. I would select diplomas from a significant part of our "great" builders and send them some kind of ditch to dig manually, either the designers or the assemblers. There are so many shoals in the new building that in a couple of years half of the objects can be repaired. I am terribly disappointed in our construction industry. Nothing personal, it just boiled over time.

[The leader of the Redskins]

I am a specialist in foundations. I say right away - there is not a single Leaning Tower of Pisa among the objects of my construction. And not a single house collapsed. I sleep well.

[hagen]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And not a single house collapsed.

Well, thank God!!! In my apartment in different corners, the ceiling height differs by 5 cm. And how the roofs flow, both flat and multi-pitched, it is simply impossible to express without a mat. And to the foundations, yes, there are no questions ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Finches

We still live in a great country, which, simply, has not the easiest times - and your pessimism is in some way criminal! You need not whine - but work and think!

Your endless praise of the Yeltsin-Putin oligarchic regime, which brought the country to such a state, is criminal.

[Finches]

Personally, I live in a great country - Russia! And you live in a world of your own illusions of constant whining ... And I considered and still consider Yeltsin a criminal - he sold the USSR, being in the same positions in which you are now - "we demand change" - for American money And I like GDP - a man of action, not a balabol theorist, unlike some!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Finches

And I like GDP - a man of action, not a balabol theorist, unlike some!

But his deeds and his camarilla lead the country to collapse and degradation.

Quote: Finches

And I considered and still consider Yeltsin a criminal

How is Yeltsinism different from Putinism? How significant are the differences? Are not the same "effective managers" in power under Yeltsin and under Putin?

Quote: Finches

Personally, I live in a great country - Russia! And you live in a world of your own illusions of constant whining ..

The USSR was great, Russia - its pale shadow, mediocrely devouring the Soviet legacy. It is you who live in a world of illusions, carefully fed to you by all sorts of nightingale and brace.

[Finches]

I wrote everything to you as I think - and you have the right to reason as you please! We returned Crimea, returned to Syria, put a little order in Georgia, Ukraine - indicated its place (near the bucket), despite the 100% support of all "progressive" humanity, we do not praise the gay community, which is probably why you are sad .. We have built a cosmodrome and our satellites fly into space, we have the largest fleet of icebreakers and control the Arctic ... We sell grain in the USA ... China is far away - and why? Because such, I beg your pardon, and I repeat, penetrated the USSR - "everything was bad for you", perestroika began to please the whiners - and China has rolled its whiners into the asphalt with caterpillars and has been developing since 1978 according to the plan! And you and others like you again want a revolution - you are an Anglo-Saxon hirer, probably! They also really want the next changes to happen in Russia!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Finches

And you and your kind again want a revolution - you are an Anglo-Saxon hirer, probably! They also really want the next changes to happen in Russia!

If you are so ignorant that by revolution you mean Gorbachev's collapse of the USSR, the Ukrainian Maidan, the Georgian "Rose Revolution", then I will remind you that revolution means a change in the socio-economic formation from a regressive to a progressive one. That is, during the bourgeois revolution, the regressive feudal socio-economic formation was replaced by a more progressive - bourgeois, during the socialist revolution, respectively, the regressive bourgeois formation, was replaced by the progressive, that is, socialist. In the 90s, for example, there was a rollback to the previous socio-economic formation. This phenomenon is called a reaction. Study at least a school history course.

Quote: Finches

We built a cosmodrome and our satellites fly into space

While they fly, if everything goes as it goes, we will only listen to Rogozin's songs.

Quote: Finches

It's far from China - why? Because, I beg your pardon, and I repeat, the USSR penetrated - "everything was bad for you", perestroika began to please the whiners - and China rolled the whiners into the asphalt with caterpillars

To put it roughly and inaccurately, the GKChP won in China. And our party and Komsomol elite carried out a criminal privatization, got their hands on Soviet assets and are now in power. So, no "infiltrated USSR" has anything to do with it. As nightingales with the company are now, they were also bred by Yakovlev with the company, if you have forgotten, of course.

Quote: Finches

we do not praise the gay community, which is probably why you are sad ...

That quite the arguments are over? Couldn't think of anything smarter?

Quote: Finches

We returned Crimea, returned to Syria, put some order in Georgia, Ukraine - indicated its place (near the parasha)

They returned Crimea, having lost Ukraine for many years. How many times have Barmaley people been defeated in Syria? In general, "so-so" successes in foreign policy.

[Finches]

You are lumping everything together, calling me ignorant, but I am not offended - what does the perestroika of 1985, the collapse of the USSR in 1991 and today's Ukraine and Putin, for example, have to do with it? How do you interconnect all this?
And as for the arguments - I have something to compare with (I wrote it 1000 times here, but for people like you I will repeat myself again) - I compare it with the 90s - and this is a very significant comparison not in favor of the 90s and not in benefit of the last years of the life of the USSR - when everyone suddenly wanted "changes"! You probably also wanted a change! Here is the result ... Therefore, I do not want any more changes and I like VVP as the leader of Russia!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Finches

I compare with the 90s

In the 90s, the salary was not paid, today there is simply no work, and if there is, then the salary is only enough for a communal apartment and a doshirak. What difference does it make to me?

Quote: Finches

calling me ignorant

Yeah, "but what about us?"

Quote: aleksejkabanets

How is Yeltsinism different from Putinism? How significant are the differences? Are not the same "effective managers" in power under Yeltsin and under Putin?

You have not answered the questions and, as I understand it, you are not going to answer.

[Fungus]

In the 90s, the salary was not paid, today there is simply no work, and if there is, then the salary is only enough for a communal apartment and a doshirak. What difference does it make to me?

An old training manual. I know a Belarusian who works in Russia for the second apartment of his second daughter. Works as a turner. There are plenty of jobs in the country. There is already nowhere to put cars in the courtyard of big traffic jams already in small towns. New housing is being bought up like hot cakes. You have very old manuals) Although you probably are not from Russia.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Fungus

already earned the second apartment for his second daughter. Works as a turner. There are plenty of jobs in the country.

I already understood that you have your own country on your TV.

[Fungus]

Come out of the house and not hang around Navalny's sites.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Fungus

Come out of the house and not hang around Navalny's sites.

The fact that you are a "great intellectual" I have already understood.

[Finches]

You are not Russian or what? I answered you everything through comparing the 90s (Yeltsin) and 2000 (Putin)! And I also compare it on my own skin through the prism of army service - what happened after the collapse of the Red Banner and Legendary and what we came to in the year of my dismissal from service in 2019 ... From total betrayal and collapse, to rearmament, social security and restoration of respect in all over the world! I have something to compare with - and this is the main answer to all your questions for me personally! This is my life - from the USSR to today's Russia - and the spirit of its Imperial greatness, Soviet power is in everyone who survived the 90s and did not give up ... But there were always enough whiners - there is Navalny, Kasparov, suffering ... Some commentators here "I quit the army, because everyone offended me there" ... You are nervous, but the caravan is going!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Finches

You are not Russian or what? I answered you everything by comparing the 90s (Yeltsin) and 2000 (Putin)!

You did not answer anything, one pathos in your comments. You can, of course, not be too lazy and find a relatively accurate number of enterprises closed under Yeltsin and Putin. Under Putin, much more has closed and sold out than under Yeltsin. Don't you know that today a clan "neo-feudal" state is being built, which will not bring anything good to ordinary people. Can't you see what medicine and education have become? Refute me if you can, of course. I would be glad to be wrong.

[Finches]

I am not familiar with education by hearsay - in the strategic plan, excesses were made in favor of general European integration with the rejection of the achievements of the Soviet school, but after the 2000s good money went to education - and today universities and teachers are not the same as in 90 -x (for example, an associate professor at the Military Academy (not a military one) gets somewhere under 100, and sometimes more, in a civil university, they are also not particularly poor today, unlike in the 90s), the equipment of universities is reaching world standards - very large money is invested in it! Medicine, this is - yes, probably, but again - I, as attached to the Military Medical Academy (as well as my family members), also have the opportunity to compare with its evolution! There are enough problems, but to say that there is no development is simply not true! I somehow flew to Krasnoyarsk for a symposium (I will not specify where), the respected director of the institute complains - they allocated 1 billion rubles, I urgently need to master it - I decided to build an educational building, but I do not have time with the project, they say, they will take the money ...

I have already cited, here as an example - it happened to me to drive a car all over Kuzbass in the summer (in August) and I was pleasantly surprised that the fields along the roads are not desolate, as it was 20 years ago, but cultivated - cabbage, potatoes , rye ... There is equipment in the field, people ...!

I travel around the country and see with my eyes what is happening and compare, but how was it 20 years ago! So to speak empirically I compare! I love trains especially - very clearly (what was in the 90s) and like now ... In 2012 I was in the Ukrainian Crimea - I traveled, I was especially impressed by the local electric trains and trains - in 2012 they still lived like we did in 1997, and in 1997 I was in Kiev - then we lived approximately, the same - Ukraine remained in 1997, and we no longer exist!

That's the trick - if you don't be too unfounded - everything is learned in comparison! And my pathos is pride that we were able to come to our senses after Gorbachek-Yeltsin Judaism (in the sense of betrayal) and again became the State!

[alekseykabanets]

Well, here's how to talk is much better than this:

Quote: Finches

You are an Anglo-Saxon hirer

Or so:

Quote: aleksejkabanets

You are so ignorant

The whole problem is that we are in different social strata, and we have different views on the same things. You write:

Quote: Finches

and I was pleasantly surprised that the fields along the roads are not desolate, as it was 20 years ago, but cultivated - cabbage, potatoes, rye ... There is machinery in the field, people ...!

I can see the other side, 8 years ago there were about 100 cattle in my village, today there are less than 20. One of the reasons, nowhere to graze, plowed under the very gardens, nowhere to put the goat. When there was a collective farm, there were several kindergartens and 2 schools. The settlement consists of several villages. Today there are no kindergartens at all, but the school is left alone. 90% of the land belongs to two private owners, they grow grain and sell it to Turkey, as far as I know. They don't give a damn about the roads, the FAP, the school, the problems of the people, there is no money in the budget of the settlement, and where do they come from there.

Quote: Finches

but after the 2000s good money went into education - and today universities and teachers ...

The head teacher was taken to the village school, I know her well, she had not worked at school for a minute before, "teacher of mathematics and computer science", his wife explained to her daughter addition to the column, she herself could not explain. Her friend got a job in the same school as an English teacher, studied in the same specialty, "teacher of mathematics and computer science", did not finish English courses, dropped out. They settled down not "by pull", but through the employment center.

Quote: Finches

Medicine, this is - yes, probably, but again - I, as attached to the Military Medical Academy ...

You definitely noticed this. We have glasses for the child to pick up to go to Krasnodar, or paid.
Since that. Do you think I can be happy with this state of affairs? Society is becoming more and more stratified, and social inequality is growing. All of this can lead to a social explosion. I do not like this. I am in favor of the revolution, it is not necessarily bloody. But I am categorically against different "Maidans".

[Finches]

I apologize if I touched you with something! But the fact of the matter is that Putin has nothing to do with it - he plays by the rules of capitalism, but tries to comply with the national interests of Russia, and the rest of the market - and it is inherently anti-human, since it is not the person who is put at the head, but the dollar (income , surplus value) is the essence of a market economy and it does not care about people! If your neighbor is a farmer - he doesn't care about you, he doesn't care only about himself! Hence the stratification, which is also the natural state of capitalism!

[Vadim237]

Revolution is understood as the change of the socio-economic formation from regressive to progressive. It doesn't matter now any revolution or coups - these are the interests of specific groups of people and those who finance them, and they all did not lead to anything good, and will not lead only to regression.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Vadim237

Revolution is understood as the change of the socio-economic formation from regressive to progressive. It doesn't matter now any revolution or coups - these are the interests of specific groups of people and those who finance them, and they all did not lead to anything good, and will not lead only to regression.

You write nonsense. A revolution and a coup are completely different things, do not confuse the concepts. The revolution is not carried out in the interests of some persons, the revolution is carried out in the interests of the classes of society. Name me at least one revolution that led to regression. Do not confuse it with Maidans and other "color revolutions".

[VORON538]

And who should the people choose? Zhirinovsky? Yavlinsky? Navalny? Zyuganov? Ah, he was a revolutor-Maltsev, he did not reach the elections with his slogans about the pogroms. Do these comrades do not understand that it is time for them to retire? And, although I always voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation , their candidates began to embarrass Zyuganov for a long time now on vacation, his grandchildren were already attached to bread places (not by teachers, carpenters, plumbers), Grudinin turned out to be overseas accounts in banks, Zhirinovsky was well attached to his son, Yavlinsky was a complete pro-American fiasco (also on O), Navalny-and the children and property behind the cordon, like himself ... And where is their closeness to the common people ??? family in a row. a shack even in Belarus, go out! Because the candidate for whom I can vote, no, although ... there is one ... AGAINST ALL I draw and put a tick!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: VORON538

And who should people choose?

I will not write here about bourgeois elections. We both know that the conventional "milling machine operator Vasily Petrovich", whether he is even three times honest and decent person, has no chance.
It's time to organize from the bottom.

[Fungus]

You two percent will suffer for another 12 years. That is how long Putin will rule. So whine and pour more)

[Vadim237]

Putin will leave in 2024 and put Mishustin or someone else in his place - and these disgruntled whiners, loafers, who are always dissatisfied with everything, will whine and moan until the end of their days.

[hagen]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

But his deeds and his camarilla lead the country to collapse and degradation.

For Putin, they may lead to collapse, but for the Soviet leaders, about whom here through one good memories, with Soviet education, power and space and many others, the country really collapsed.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

How is Yeltsinism different from Putinism? How significant are the differences? Are not the same "effective managers" in power under Yeltsin and under Putin?

Obviously, your education and life experience does not allow you to distinguish between different economic directions of life. Should you ask questions that you cannot understand the answers to? Indeed, they say that in our country the best experts on all problems of geopolitics and macroeconomics are waiters and taxi drivers. You should talk about your professional issues, why climb into the unknown jungle?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Hagen

Obviously, your education and life experience does not allow you to distinguish between different economic directions of life.

Explain to me, please, these very "different economic directions of life."

Quote: Hagen

Should you ask questions that you cannot understand the answers to?

Well, do me a favor, explain it so that I would understand. Especially about "different economic directions of life."

Quote: Hagen

Indeed, they say that in our country the best experts on all problems of geopolitics and macroeconomics are waiters and taxi drivers.

Is that you about yourself?

Quote: Hagen

You should talk about your professional issues, why climb into the unknown jungle?

What can you, my young friend, know about my "professional questions"? Are you not a psychic for an hour? Or are you guessing at coffee?

[hagen]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Explain to me, please, these very "different economic directions of life."

Do you want about different directions? Excuse me ... Remember who held loans-for-shares auctions? In whose hands the controlling stakes in oil companies have gathered (YUKOS, for example, and its burdensome business). See who controls the oil and gas industry today. Remember where the state-owned concerns came from in the main strategic industries. Remember? And the difference will be somewhat clearer.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What can you, my young friend, know about my "professional questions"?

Do you want to say that you are older than me? Found something to be proud of ... You will die faster ... and it makes all the difference. I do not know about your professional issues and I am not interested in knowing. But the fact that you are a layman in matters of macroeconomics can be seen with the naked eye. And it is clear that you will not earn a living with this category of knowledge, i.e. this is not your profession. Did I make myself clear? I have nothing against you personally, just accept it as fact.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Hagen

Remember who held the loans-for-shares auctions?

What is this character doing now, can you remind me?

Quote: Hagen

In whose hands the controlling stakes in oil companies have gathered (Yukos, for example, and its burdensome business). See who controls the oil and gas industry today.

If you are implying that oil and gas companies have become state-owned, then you are wrong. Learn the difference between a joint stock company and a state enterprise.

Quote: Hagen

But the fact that you are a layman in matters of macroeconomics can be seen with the naked eye.

You probably graduated from HSE, an expert in macroeconomics?

[hagen]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Learn the difference between a joint stock company and a state enterprise.

Are you like ... on Saturdays or what? I have formulated a question for you Russians on white about owning a controlling stake. Where did I indicate that Gazprom and Rosneft are state-owned? I hint that these companies are controlled by the state, and Putin began to collect them under state control, for which he put Miller over him. You obviously do not know how the EBN tried with all its might to bankrupt Gazprom so that it would privatize its assets at an accelerated pace, including to foreign buyers ... In the same way, the state controls the main strategic enterprises, uniting them into corporations. There are also state corporations, and they appeared under Putin.

Quote: aleksejkabanets

What is this character doing now, can you remind me?

The main inventor in the coffin in white slippers, already 13 years old. Or do you consider the red-haired demon an independent political figure?

[Vadim237]

"And by space" In the space sphere, the USSR began to hand over to the United States in the late 60s.

[paul3390]

GDP is the enemy of the people. Like all his nukers. For - bourgeois. It is simply amazing that for 20 years of his reign there are characters who have not realized this simple truth.

[dima314]

just in such a system of power the next prezik will be the same or worse. Alas, the election system does not change

[VORON538]

Now think about how many of the population that have become "bourgeois" (as you say) has property, and how it will meet your cries about "take and divide"
There will be a civil war, and your supporters will clearly be less
Why do you need trouble? Again ask your homies to bring in the invaders?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: VORON538

Now think about how many of the population that have become "bourgeois" (as you say) has property, and how it will meet your cries about "take and divide"

Someone was talking about "take from the population and divide"? Your "barbershop" is of no interest to anyone. Or are you leading something bad in the nationalization of the extractive industry, strategic industries and the banking sector?

Quote: VORON538

There will be a civil war, and your supporters will clearly be less
Why do you need trouble? Again ask your homies to bring in the invaders?

Remind me who started the civil war, how did it start? Remember the school history course. It was your "sidekicks", Kolchak, Semenov and others who invited the invaders. The Bolsheviks did not cooperate with the interventionists.

[Vadim237]

Are you leading something bad in the nationalization of the extractive industries, strategic industries and the banking sector? Privatization does not make any sense in any way, it will not affect the welfare of the country and the people, to the maximum that it will give it five trillion a year for the budget, and this is on the scale of the restoration of all fixed assets, which are estimated at 90 trillion rubles - a tiny amount. The only way out is a sharp growth of the entire economy - but in the current conditions of the global economic crisis associated with the pandemic, as well as numerous sanctions against us, such an increase is impossible.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Vadim237

Are you leading something bad in the nationalization of the extractive industries, strategic industries and the banking sector?

No, I don’t see, on the contrary, the nationalization of these sectors will have a positive effect on the economy as a whole, will allow, for example, to conduct long-term planning, will allow funds to be invested in the development of industry, and not in the pockets of oligarchs, etc. As for the banks, only nationalization will make it possible to put an end to their usurious policy.

Quote: Vadim237

Privatization does not make any sense in any way, it will not affect the welfare of the country and the people, to the maximum that it will give it five trillion a year for the budget, and this is on the scale of the restoration of all fixed assets, which are estimated at 90 trillion rubles - a minuscule.

I have not said a word about privatization and have never campaigned for it.

Quote: Vadim237

The only way out is a sharp growth of the entire economy - but in the current conditions of the global economic crisis associated with the pandemic, as well as numerous sanctions against us, such growth is impossible.

What makes you think that growth is not possible? Look what was the growth of the USSR economy during the "Great Depression" and the sanctions were the same then.

[Vadim237]

"VVP is the enemy of the people. Like all its nukers." Enemies of the people and the country as a whole are like you whiners and mediocrities with your information trash on the Internet. And everyone already knows about all the problems and solves them as best they can.

[strelokmira]

Personally, I live in a great country - Russia!

Based on your comment, you live in a yellow house with soft walls.

[military_cat]

Quote: Finches

You need not whine - but work and think!

To spend the results of labor "effective manager" on a yacht? It is not very clear who will get better from this, except for the mentioned manager.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I can't get used to the fact that as a child I lived in a Great Country, and now ...

That changed the country ... for "changes" ... And the Chinese brought tanks to the square, and "rolled out" the thirsty ... IMHO, that is why we are now looking at them from the bottom up ... Although compared to the bends of the "Cultural Revolution "Stalin's repressions are children's games in the sandbox ... Ideology, even if it is" not democratic, "is much more productive than its absence, and replacing it with the slogan" contact "... beloved ... poured. conservation law, however. Well, there, more rationally, there are fewer stupid losses - but this is secondary ...

[Observer2014]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I can't get used to the fact that as a child I lived in a Great Country, and now ...

That changed the country ... for "changes" ... And the Chinese brought tanks to the square, and "rolled out" the thirsty ... IMHO, that is why we are now looking at them from the bottom up ... Although compared to the bends of the "Cultural Revolution "Stalin's repressions are children's games in the sandbox ... Ideology, even if it is" not democratic, "is much more productive than its absence, and replacing it with the slogan" contact "... beloved ... poured. conservation law, however. Well, there, more rationally, there are fewer stupid losses - but this is secondary ...

you have such a desire to kill someone. How can the concept of guts be released to unarmed demonstrators. Do you really think that the killing of unarmed disgruntled people is the starting point for the country's prosperity?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Observer2014

you have such a desire to kill someone. How can the concept of guts be released to unarmed demonstrators. Do you really think that the killing of unarmed disgruntled people is the starting point for the country's prosperity?

How many people died on the territory of the former USSR as a result of its collapse? Millions. (The pogroms of Baku and Sumgait, the wars in Tajikistan and Fergana, Chechnya, Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Ukraine, finally ...) ... It would be worth the arrest and execution of Gorbachev, Yeltsin and his neighbors as traitors to the Motherland. ..?
So, hypothetically. It just had to be done in 86, and not later ... Before Malta. Surgeons save the patient's life, but blood is being poured!

[Pechkin]

Do not think that I am for the collapse of the USSR, it is a pity that there was no leader who could keep the country from creeping (this would save the lives of a huge number of people from many wars and national cleansing in the territory of the former USSR). Also start economic reforms, but not all to dust but gradually. For example, in the Rostov region, introduce a capitalist economy and if you want to do business go there. If you want a stable job and a salary (but small) without risks, sit in the Pskov region and sharpen pedals for three types of bicycles. Also controlling the trade between the regions where you are already introduced a capital system and areas with social economy (because the social areas will not withstand competition and let capital regions work partly for export). And so gradually modernize the country, while maintaining political stability. But now we have what we have, but it would be huge a strong country with a powerful internal market (the size of the population would allow) and an economy, but everyone fled to the corners and formed a bunchSatrapies and satellite countries.

[Vadim237]

It just had to be done in 86, and not later ... Before Malta. This would not have saved the USSR from the economic crisis and subsequent events in any way, and where economic and food problems wait for new politicians and the USSR would not have had a choice to switch to a market economy with all the ensuing reduction in the bloated army, the elimination of some of the military-industrial complex enterprises, the closure of unprofitable factories and factories across the country and stratification of the population.

[Pechkin]

(Individual enrichment is just a REDISTRIBUTION, I took it from many, to myself, to my beloved ... I poured the law of conservation, however.) What nonsense are you talking about, you are not a teenager living in the world of pink ponies, people are not ants and money is one thing China began to develop when Deng Xiaoping began to build "socialism with Chinese characteristics" carried out economic reforms, left the planned economy, merged into the world economy. Allowed foreign companies to work on very good conditions (cheap, disenfranchised labor force) no ecology and greenpeace. In general, China began to work, and not to deal with slogans about a bright future. China has private property and good economic freedoms. But politically everything is tough, only one party. But maybe this is important for their stability and local specifics (without the difference is the dictatorship in Singapore or democracy in South Korea, the main thing is that it works) In general, if China did not engage in capitalization of the economy, we would have another North Korea, only more more.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Pechkin

What the hell are you talking about, you are not a teenager living in the world of pink ponies, people are not ants and money is one of the motivations

Apparently you have not read Marx ... It happens, but I had to ... Redistribution of the added value created by human labor ... Unjust, in favor of the owners of the means of production ... this is about capital accumulation. This is the answer about the redistribution of public wealth.
And who sent the tanks to Tiananmen Square? Not Deng Xiaoping? Defending these very "market reforms"?

[mat-vey]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Apparently you have not read Marx ...

And I liked it more about "(cheap, disenfranchised labor force)" ... the Chinese also have labor legislation, and wages grow in accordance with the growth of production, and pensions are the same - everything is in dynamics in accordance with the growth of the economy.

[Pechkin]

Now, more or less, but when everything became there, the rights and conditions were like the workers of the 19th century. That is why cheap goods. Do you think that American and European companies would start building factories (transfer production) in China if there were high wages and social .payments. Meaning of lower production costs.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Pechkin

Now, more or less, but when everything became there, the rights and conditions were like the workers of the 19th century had. That's why cheap goods. Do you think that American and European companies would start building factories in China if there were high wages and social benefits.

In addition to the salary, there are a lot of other expenses, which are very significant in Europe, but in China then there was no need to pay.

[Pechkin]

I also wrote about ecology and it is clear that there is less tax nugruzka. But you really think that John at the Ford plant in America receives the same as Weimin at the Ford plant in China.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Pechkin

But do you really think that John at the Ford plant in America receives the same as Weimin at the Ford plant in China.

And why such a conclusion?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: mat-vey

, and wages grow in accordance with the growth of production, and pensions are the same - everything is in dynamics in accordance with the growth of the economy

You ... Read it first. Who has pensions and salaries there ... And how does the peasantry live, which is more than half of the population ... And there is no Internet. In our understanding. And recognition by the mass of signs is already working. You can go to the store and take what you need without showing anything. The purchase will be debited from your account automatically ... And in some places, even across the street to the red one, they will be identified, and they will send a fine, and the points will be removed. Social ... THEM's digital concentration camp is already much more advanced than anywhere else in the world ...

[mat-vey]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

You ... Read it first. Who has what pensions and salaries there ...

And that everything is done overnight?

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Their digital concentration camp is already much more advanced than anywhere else in the world ...

Well, we would have wanted something worse, but only - God did not give horns to a whipping cow. You have to pay for a concentration camp, but for a digital one even more.

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And in some places, already across the street to the red one, they will be identified, and a fine will be sent,

And we have cameras on the roads just hanging ...

[VORON538]

Does everyone have pensions or only a certain part of the population? Enlighten, preferably not with links, but with your own text! A long time ago, on the train, a Chinese man asked me how much I gave to go to the army on a contract. I was naturally surprised, and he said that it is honorable for them and not everyone gets there, so you have to give a bribe (about corruption in China)

[mat-vey]

Quote: VORON538

Does everyone have pensions or only a certain part of the population?

"and pensions are the same - everything is in dynamics in accordance with economic growth." Well, when there was no one, then only civil servants, and now the majority (this part is larger than the population of Russia).

Quote: VORON538

I was naturally surprised, but he said that it was an honor for them and not all

"In Chapter 10, Articles 53-65 of the" Law on the Military Service of the PRC "specifically define various material benefits that the officers and soldiers of the PLA should have. In particular, according to Article 53, the state provides the conditions of active service corresponding to the duties of military personnel, including monetary allowances , allowances, cash incentives, etc. Active servicemen also enjoy vacations, sanatorium treatment, medical care, living quarters and other types of material benefits in accordance with the rules. In accordance with the level of socio-economic development, the state increases the level of social security for military personnel. An insurance regime has been established for military personnel, which is combined with the social insurance system.According to article 54, the state has established and is improving the employment regime for demobilized soldiers, offering various specific employment options. they choose a job, retire, receive a salary, have the opportunity to continue their studies, etc. According to article 60, conscripts after demobilization can enter secondary vocational school without entrance examinations, and those who pass exams for admission to a university receive additional points and other benefits. Those who enter a university or secondary vocational school receive a scholarship from the state during the year. According to article 61, retired sergeants who have given 12 years of service or more can get a job with the assistance of the people's government at the county level and above in the area where they are located. While waiting for employment, the people's government of the area, according to the relevant state regulations, provides them with an allowance; sergeants who have served 30 years or more or who have reached the age of 55 receive pensioner status. According to article 64, administrative bodies, public organizations, enterprises and budgetary institutions are obliged to accept and accommodate retired military personnel, during recruitment and recruitment of employees and under equal conditions, they must accept demobilized military personnel in the first place. "

[VORON538]

That is, they seem to have pensions, but not all
I already know about the PLA, the question is about employment in the civil service and bribes for it!
At the same time, describe about "social credit" and total surveillance in China, which ensures the high discipline of the population
Many people here will not like this! By the way, in China you would already be sitting for your comments.

[mat-vey]

Quote: VORON538

the question is about employment in the civil service and bribes for it!

Do you believe in elves, especially since there are many centuries-old, if not millennial traditions with gifts for officials in China.

Quote: VORON538

At the same time, describe about "social credit" in China
Many people here will not like this!

Once again - "And that everything is done overnight?"

Quote: VORON538

That is, they seem to have pensions, but not all

That is - "everything is in dynamics in accordance with the growth of the economy."

[VORON538]

In general, "oil oil" you get
Your agitation did not work!

[mat-vey]

Quote: VORON538

In general, "oil oil"

In general, that China is not the same as it was 30 years ago, and why don't you understand this?

[mat-vey]

Quote: VORON538

By the way, in China you would already be sitting for your comments.

“Everyone is well aware of the role the Internet plays in the life of modern man and humanity. There are also risks there ... We must bear in mind these risks and, having thought in advance, stop” - not all is lost ... and we have prospects.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Pechkin

By the way, there is a lot of evidence that some of the protesters were against the capitalist and liberal reforms of the government, that is, against the market economy.

Right. Some were in favor of accelerating reforms, while the workers were against. But most importantly, against the CCP's dictate.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Right. Some were in favor of accelerating reforms, while the workers were against. But most importantly, against the CCP's dictate.

Some were against accelerated industrialization, and then there was a war - a war of motors.

[Pechkin]

(True. Some went for the acceleration of reforms, and the workers - against. But most importantly, against the dictatorship of the CCP) Even though we agree on this)

[Pechkin]

I wrote that one party, the CPC has a complete monopoly on power. But there were political demands on Tiananmen Square. By the way, there is a lot of evidence that some of the protesters opposed precisely the capitalist and liberal reforms of the government, that is, against the market economy.

[Observer2014]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Reading the news about the successes of China, I feel like a resident of some sort of Romania in the 80s, observing the successes of the USSR - there is a country nearby. With the same people, but with tremendous technological leaps!
I can't get used to the fact that as a child I lived in a Great Country, and now ...

We are like that laboratory for changing the order. We do not finish anything to the end. We built communism. We didn’t finish it. Well, admire China. I’m not talking about tsarism.

[VORON538]

I will say more, you are experimenting with how many Maidans the country will survive (you came to us from Ukraine, you served a term there ...).
The latter ended in territorial losses, but there is still a lot of interesting things ahead!

[Observer2014]

Quote: VORON538

I will say more, you are experimenting with how many Maidans the country will survive (you came to us from Ukraine, you served a term there ...).
The latter ended in territorial losses, but there is still a lot of interesting things ahead!

I'm actually from Russia. I'm afraid to be rude in the context of your comment and my own case. May I not answer you?

[VORON538]

Yes, for God's sake, you don't have to answer
Will you deny your military service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the 90s?

Observer2014
22 May 2014 19: 06
+4
IN 1993- 94 OF THE ARMY SERVED IN UKRAINE YOU BETTER NOT DESCRIBING WHAT WE DONBASS GUYS DID WITH THEM THERE

[Observer2014]

Quote: VORON538

Yes, for God's sake, you don't have to answer
Will you deny your military service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the 90s?

Observer2014
22 May 2014 19: 06
+4
IN 1993- 94 OF THE ARMY SERVED IN UKRAINE YOU BETTER NOT DESCRIBING WHAT WE DONBASS GUYS DID WITH THEM THERE

And what did we do with them? For example, I gave Igor from Lvov a knife. "Bunny, this is a complete paragraph! I will put fact on any of your arguments. And the whole joke that I never lied!

[Alien From]

I agree with you 100 percent. Full deja vu!

[antivirus]

observing the successes of the USSR - there is a country nearby.

- and above all it was the Ukrainian SSR-MSSR and the BSSR

[Civil]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Reading the news about the successes of China, I feel like a resident of some sort of Romania in the 80s, observing the successes of the USSR - there is a country nearby. With the same people, but with tremendous technological leaps!
I can't get used to the fact that as a child I lived in a Great Country, and now ...

I will subscribe under every word! It couldn't be better.

[Machito]

And here the Chinese are overtaking us. Glory to Rogozmos !!!

[220976]

Quote: Bearded

And here the Chinese are overtaking us

Maybe we just stopped striving forward because of the consumer society being introduced by the authorities?

[Machito]

Quote: 220976

Quote: Bearded

And here the Chinese are overtaking us

Maybe we just stopped striving forward because of the consumer society being introduced by the authorities?

We simply do not go forward, our government does not need it. And the people are dying out and dying out. Women do not want to breed poverty. Let's drink to mammoths. Without clinking glasses Were also Russians

[Svarog]

Maybe we just do not have the ability to move forward in space programs?

[svp67]

When you read similar news about the successes of China, you just want to exclaim: "The guys in his place should have been us ..."

[Sling cutter]

Quote: svp67

When you read similar news about the successes of China, you just want to exclaim: "The guys in his place should have been us ..."

I wanted to joke and upload a fragment from the Diamond Hand ... but something is not joking.
Sadness.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: svp67

When you read similar news about the successes of China, you just want to exclaim: "The guys in his place should have been us ..."

https://youtu.be/zUZLipVxXy8
Here, try to open it. And listen to the end of the song ".... coachman", Kabzon sang at 96. Answers to the "why" questions ...

[SaLaR]

And let's sell them Sea Launch ... until it gets rusty ..)) Or at least we'll change it for a trampoline ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: SaLaR

And let's sell them Sea Launch ... until it gets rusty ..))

They will only buy it for pins and needles, and those who sell the money will steal.

[SaLaR]

But there will be an excuse ..why we CAN'T like China...

[acetophenone]

Okay, "who is to blame" - found out. Now - "what to do"?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: acetophenon

Okay, "who is to blame" - found out. Now - "what to do"?

To remove those who are to blame, only to remove it hard.

[faiver]

To remove those who are to blame, only to remove it hard.

- who will clean up?

[paul3390]

I started the revolution with 82 people behind me. If I had to repeat this, fifteen or even ten would be enough for me. Ten people and absolute faith. It doesn't matter how many you are. It is important to believe and it is important to have a clear plan. What we did was to teach us that there is nothing impossible. After all, what seemed impossible yesterday has become possible today. And therefore nothing will seem impossible to us tomorrow.

Fidel Castro


So the answer is simple - we will clean up. People. Who else is the Jupiter trooper?

[VORON538]

Probably a sling cutter with a.kabanets, baby, lexus, sylvester and svarog
Personally

[Maxamud]

Well done Chinese! Rather than investing in US treasury bills, they are pumping huge investments into their economy and, most importantly, in the social sphere and evenly according to plan ..!
Russia-USSR one can only envy this We have been serving our oligarchs for now (some were expelled, the seven-bankers, others immediately appeared) And the most important thing is no plan for the future .. So planning meetings, like let's build a bridge .. Or in Roskosmos the same boltology .. They steal shamelessly!
The State Planning Committee of Russia is needed, then everything will be clear! In the meantime, some kind of throwing power.

[faiver]

Rather than invest in US Treasury bills, they pump huge investments into their economy

- first you would ask who is the largest holder of American government bonds, this is China ...

[Maxamud]

Quote: faiver

Rather than invest in US Treasury bills, they pump huge investments into their economy

- first you would ask who is the largest holder of American government bonds, this is China ...

And Japan and Korea !!!!, They won't give them back money There are trillions !!! And the US debts are already under $ 30 trillion. How will they write off?
The West needs a war and it is desirable where there are many different resources to pay off and write off ..)))
And who do you think this country will be?

[Fungus]

Wow Vlasov came running. If you notice they always lick the Americans and the Chinese. That's why the Vlasovites) By the way, we have a sea launch too.

[faiver]

Are you the owner of S7?

[Maxamud]

Quote: Fungus

Wow Vlasov came running. If you notice they always lick the Americans and the Chinese. That's why the Vlasovites) By the way, we have a sea launch too.

They are already here as the owners Victor! Their time has come and some of them are "educating" them here and harassing everything and everyone that is connected with Russia-USSR, etc.
Be careful, they will stumble and cover with complaints

[GRIGORIY76]

Thanks to China for regularly showing us our site. You look before people start to realize that all 30 years we have been going in the wrong direction. Despite the loud statements.

[220976]

Quote: GRIGORIY76

You look, people will begin to understand that for all 30 years we have been going in the wrong direction

People know this. There is no one that people will believe and follow him.

[Senka naughty]

Typical comments of oligophrenics all the propellers, China is building, and the authorities of the Russian Federation are to blame, the news is needed only to give a shit to Putena in his slippers. The fact that Russia over the past 120 years has lost 1/3 of its territories and 300 million population, having survived 2 bloody revolutions and WWII, this is all bullshit, this is also Puten's fault. Those who need to work and go forward, and mediocrities and trolls snot in the social. networks.

[From Tomsk]

But Russia has a colony on the moon since 2015 - Tajiks have been digging helium.

[donavi49]

In this case, you have to run very fast to stay in place.

Reuse is at least 20s if the PH is planned to be sold. Even in ArianSpace, they are already at a firefighting pace that Arian is nailed to a return like Musk's. And the new Ariane6 is already experiencing a strong churn of potential customers. For what was profitable 5-7 years ago, today it hardly interferes with the market spread of prices in futures.

The Chinese are actively reusing. The first reusable state missile will fly very soon.

Private traders again present several variations at once. Among the leaders is the methane LandSpace, which burned through the first stage at FT, and burns through 2 now.

Also on the way is the 2-ton Hyperbola-2 with return.

ExSpace (the most successful Chinese private trader in real launches thanks to the Kuaizhou launch vehicle) lit a presentation for investors of a new generation of missiles - Kuaizhou 2 - 5xMetanks at 1 stage of 5/3 tons of output and return to the site.

GalaktiEnergy (which launched Ceres1 recently successfully) is now making Pallas-1 with a vertical landing and the first launch at the end of 21st and beginning of 22 years. - 4 / 2t depending on the orbit.

Americans are also churning out a bunch of projects. Spaceplane for garbage cans in a couple of days gained 1 billion investments and contracts, after the presentation .

The guys from Relavity have now attracted even more investments than necessary. And they work hard. These are the ones that offer an innovative approach to rocket production. People are not needed, robots, printers and automated assembly lines will do everything. Cheaper in the long term, faster and almost zero probability of error.

[Smirnoff]

The Chinese spaceport will also have an advantage due to its proximity to the equator.

[GRIGORIY76]

And we have kids of effective managers.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: GRIGORIY76

And we have kids of effective managers.

And also, she graduated from Moscow State University and worked for 20 years in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, defended her thesis. She gave birth to 2 children. Instead of driving foreign cars around Moscow .. Talented parents have similar offspring. So envy in silence, bilious people.

[GRIGORIY76]

Quote: Senka Naughty

Quote: GRIGORIY76

And we have kids of effective managers.

And also, she graduated from Moscow State University and worked for 20 years in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, defended her thesis. She gave birth to 2 children. Instead of driving foreign cars around Moscow .. Talented parents have similar offspring. So envy in silence, bilious people.

Yeah, cool track record for a 29 year old woman. Especially 20 years in the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

[Clear]

Quote: GRIGORIY76

Quote: Senka Naughty

Quote: GRIGORIY76

And we have kids of effective managers.

And also, she graduated from Moscow State University and worked for 20 years in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, defended her thesis. She gave birth to 2 children. Instead of driving foreign cars around Moscow .. Talented parents have similar offspring. So envy in silence, bilious people.

Yeah, cool track record for a 29 year old woman. Especially 20 years in the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

I don’t know about the Emergencies Ministry, but the fact that Ksenia is engaged in sports projects is for sure. Mostly the topic of her interest is running activities. What's wrong with that?
In 2017, she initiated the ZaBeg half marathon, the first with a synchronized start. The runners were simultaneously started in 10 cities of Russia. She does not throw "mud" on anyone, unlike some Xenias. Well, and then - life will show ...

[Senka naughty]

I agree, I'm talking about the older, younger athlete. I'm sorry.

[Dikson]

Eh .. we didn’t have time to sell Sea Launch to them on the sly ... Now it is unnecessary for them, ... but we will rot for nothing ...))

[Vadim237]

The sea launch will wait for the Irtysh rocket for another three years.

[Dikson]

Here's more news from China - they announced that they had created a quantum computer 10 million times faster than Google's ... here are children's cheap radio-controlled toys and iPhone assemblers ... by the way - in November 2019 Rosatom announced the launch a project to create a domestic quantum computer, 24 billion rubles were allocated for the project until 2024 ... We live in historical times ... - some superpowers are replaced by others ...

[Vadim237]

What they have created is very far from the current computers - since it has neither software nor an input system, in fact, a bare laboratory system.

[Dikson]

Well, you understand - any discovery or innovation is almost always a bare laboratory system in fact? And then the serious work begins .. So there is nothing wrong with that ..

[NF68]

These will quickly fizzle out.