US Congress approves defense budget with expanded sanctions against Nord Stream 2

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US Congress approves defense budget with expanded sanctions against Nord Stream 2

The US Congress has approved a defense budget bill with extended sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. This is stated in the explanatory note to the document.

The final version of the defense budget has been adopted by both chambers of Congress, it provides for the introduction of new, expanded sanctions against the gas pipeline under construction. In particular, the restrictions are planned to be extended to companies that "facilitate the sale, lease or provision" of pipe-laying vessels for the construction of the gas pipeline. Also, according to the bill, the American president can lift sanctions against a person, based on national interests.



In addition to Nord Stream 2, the new defense budget implies the imposition of sanctions against Turkey for the purchase of the Russian S-400 air defense system. Restrictions should be imposed on Turkish officials involved in a deal to acquire a Russian anti-aircraft system. It is planned to declare this purchase a "material transaction", which automatically entails sanctions under the US CAATSA sanctions law.

No later than 30 days after the entry into force of this law, the president must impose five or more sanctions

- the document says.

Meanwhile, the still incumbent President of the United States, Donald Trump, has announced that he will veto the new defense budget for 2021. The reason for this decision is that in the agreed version of the document there was a mention of the release of social networks from liability.

It is very sad for our country. It appears that (Republican Senate Armed Services Chairman) James Inhofe will not include the termination of Section 230 (the communications ethics law) in the draft military budget. Very bad for our national security and electoral integrity. The last chance to solve this. I will veto

- wrote Trump on Twitter.
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  1. +1
    4 December 2020 10: 09
    Bravo Trump! Even if he does not have time to replay before Biden's inauguration, but for the remaining period of time, they will be flooded with fat
    1. +9
      4 December 2020 10: 15
      Defense budget of the most democratic democracy against the economic project ... Am I confusing anything? This is not a double standard, there is worldwide schizophrenia.
      1. +5
        4 December 2020 10: 21
        The project is beneficial to the business of Germany and Russia, but not very beneficial to the business of the United States, therefore, they oppose it in any way.
        1. +2
          4 December 2020 10: 29
          Yes, there are not only Germans involved - Austrians, Dutch, French, British ...
        2. -3
          4 December 2020 10: 34
          Where is JV2 profitable for Europe? If it would be profitable, JV1 would be 100% launched, now it is 50% loaded. Adoption and amendment of laws and other papers, as we know, if necessary, change at the click of a button. It seems to me that SP2 is purely our project at the request of more money to grab 100% through two pipes is not 50% one by one. And all the propaganda speeches about SP2 as the savior of Russia are a smokescreen for internal use. I repeat, if Europe needed gas, it would easily get it by launching SP1 at full capacity.
          1. +8
            4 December 2020 11: 01
            Quote: evgen1221
            Where is JV2 profitable for Europe? If it would be profitable, JV1 would be 100% launched, now it is 50% loaded.

            by the end of 2019, 58,5 billion cubic meters of gas passed through the joint venture. m,
            according to the operational data of the unified platform of operators of the European gas transportation system ENTSOG, in 11 months supplies via Nord Stream amounted to almost 54 billion cubic meters, along the Ukrainian route - more than 50 billion, along Yamal - Europe through Poland - about 28 billion
            https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/12/01/gazprom-ne-uspeet-naverstat-upushchennoe-v-evrope
            1. -4
              4 December 2020 11: 13
              Well? So after all, this data is limited to 50% of the download. And SP2, as it were, will also work at 50. Which should have been proven - 100 at 2 is better than 50 at one. And SP2 is what I described.
              1. +5
                4 December 2020 11: 23
                SP-1 - design capacity 55 billion cubic meters in year. When SP-2 is built then and it is possible to discuss, there were options, the courts are going because of the gas directive, the last option is that the Germans create an environmental fund in which they include SP-2 ...
                1. +32
                  4 December 2020 14: 39
                  Quote: BrTurin
                  the Germans create an environmental fund, which includes SP-2 ...

                  because they cannot legally do anything with US sanctions
                  1. +2
                    4 December 2020 16: 49
                    Quote: Overlock
                    can not legally do anything

                    legally, not legally ... the main thing is the result ... and then let's see how really the Germans are ready to continue and complete the project ... they give permission to courts, certifiers, etc.
              2. +1
                4 December 2020 12: 07
                not 100 per pipe
          2. 0
            4 December 2020 11: 16
            He is beneficial to Germany. They've said it a hundred times already. So everything is fine. One of these days they will begin to finish building.
            1. +28
              4 December 2020 14: 38
              Quote: Fungus
              One of these days they will begin to finish building.

              than? Who!
              1. -2
                4 December 2020 14: 53
                Chersky is already sailing to finish building the German section
                1. +30
                  4 December 2020 15: 04
                  Quote: Fungus
                  Chersky is already sailing to finish building the German section

                  ships and ships go, float ... Is there insurance? - No. Is there a certification? - No.
                  1. -1
                    4 December 2020 15: 23
                    Everything has already been deleted. Do not worry.
          3. KCA
            +4
            4 December 2020 11: 16
            What finger are you sucking such data from? The estimated load of the SP-1 is 55 billion cubic meters, in 2019 they pumped 59 billion, or are you not friends with arithmetic at all?
      2. 0
        4 December 2020 10: 31
        against an economic project ...

        Defense budget versus political project.
        1. 0
          4 December 2020 10: 39
          Free competition in American style !!! Everything is fine, like in Hollywood fairy tales. wassat wassat wassat
          1. 0
            4 December 2020 10: 46
            I think this is really only possible in fairy tales ..
            In fact, if I just have a fight with you (for example, because of a woman), I would rather pour milk into a puddle than sell it to you .. it's my right to dispose of my goods ..
            So the States are announcing to whom and under what conditions they agree to sell / buy goods.
      3. 0
        4 December 2020 10: 57
        Whether it is an economic project, or rather a political one, it is an open question, depending on who is considering it and from which side.
        As for the extended sanctions against SP-2, they were included in the defense budget for two reasons.
        1. This makes it possible to speed up their entry into force as much as possible, since a regular bill is considered much longer.
        2. The US President (and in this case Trump) has almost no chance of vetoing these sanctions, because in this case he swings at the entire draft military budget. Trump is now in no position to raise further suspicion after his presidential immunity expires.
      4. +1
        4 December 2020 13: 43
        Quote: Black
        The defense budget of the most democratic democracy against the economic project ... Am I confusing anything?

        No, everything is correct. This is a real market economy.
        And not the secondary product for underdeveloped countries that we were stuffed with in the 90s: "the market will regulate itself," "government interference in business is unacceptable," and so on.

        A true market economy ideally operates on the principle: the state works to increase the income of corporations (because taxes), corporations work in the interests of the state ("covering" them in foreign markets).
        For a bribe and an aircraft carrier looming on the horizon can achieve much more than just a bribe. smile
    2. +2
      4 December 2020 12: 17
      The dumbest branch of government on the planet is the US Congress and Senate! Total marasmatics, who totally have a place in the fool.
    3. 0
      4 December 2020 13: 21
      Quote: Egoza
      Bravo Trump!

      "Avditoria" is divided into zatumpists and zabaidens. Is it okay that this is not our "internal affair"?
  2. +5
    4 December 2020 10: 09
    An interesting situation. Sanctions against the pipeline are recorded in the military budget. And then what will be reported about what does not depend on them, maybe they will bomb the pipe?
    1. -1
      4 December 2020 10: 16
      ... while they are bombed from the pipe laughing well, it is understandable, the "chosen" is not rude. Nobody takes a lance.
      1. 0
        4 December 2020 11: 17
        Quote: Black
        Nobody takes a lance.

        "Asian countries, including China and South Korea, are awaiting the arrival of an armada of about 2020 tankers loaded with American oil in December 20." https://lenta.ru/news/2020/12/01/oil/
        1. +2
          4 December 2020 12: 27
          Quote: WIKI

          "Asian countries, including China and South Korea, are awaiting the arrival of an armada of about 2020 tankers loaded with American oil in December 20." https://lenta.ru/news/2020/12/01/oil/

          It also says that the Americans are keeping prices below the market, and the general flow rushed up. China bought cheap oil
          1. 0
            5 December 2020 00: 20
            I don't know whether he bought cheap or expensive. I was just commenting
            Quote: APASUS
            Nobody takes a lance.
            OPEC keeps the price. The people are already obsessed with these Americans.
    2. +3
      4 December 2020 10: 17
      The sanctions against the pipeline are recorded in the military budget.
      I've also thought about ... And the pipe and also social networks and everything in the military budget ??? Do they have an ordinary (not military) one? bully Or is it just rubber and so big that everything is shoved into it, including wrestling with toys made in China?
      1. +7
        4 December 2020 10: 23
        Quote: APASUS
        An interesting situation. Sanctions against the pipeline are recorded in the military budget.

        It's simple.
        The military budget is binding, and even the US President will not veto it.
        1. +2
          4 December 2020 10: 32
          Meanwhile, the still incumbent President of the United States, Donald Trump, has announced that he will veto the new defense budget for 2021.
          Already swore, threatened, stamped his feet ... and wrote on Twitter am
        2. +2
          4 December 2020 12: 26
          Quote: Thrall
          The military budget is binding, not even the President of the United States will veto it

          Who in the United States can impose anything on a project of confrontation with the Russians? We are there for all barbarians and terrorists
      2. 0
        4 December 2020 10: 34
        And the pipe and also social networks and everything in the military budget ??? Do they have an ordinary (not military) one?


        The pipe is viewed as an element of political influence on Europe.
        Social networks are about information security ..
        Therefore, the military budget ..
        1. +1
          4 December 2020 10: 39
          The pipe is considered as an element political influence on Europe ..
          Here's something that is political !!! And what does the military have to do with it?
          1. -1
            4 December 2020 10: 43
            Where to write geopolitics ?? Not in trade .. We, after all, use this pipe to influence Europe .. tear it away from the States, etc. This is tantamount to Turkey losing influence in Azerbaijan ..
            And somewhere they have already noticed that the military budget is obligatory for execution ..
          2. +32
            4 December 2020 14: 36
            Quote: NDR-791
            And what does the military have to do with it?

            because it is almost impossible for Trump to take SP-2 out of it. Congress has gone and is going against Trump, who is considered loyal to the Kremlin.
            Quote: Thrall
            The military budget is binding, and even the US President will not veto it.

  3. +5
    4 December 2020 10: 14
    And what is the amount of sanctions costs in this budget ??)
  4. +17
    4 December 2020 10: 16
    Even the budget items show that war has been declared on us. And our management calls them all "partners" am
    1. +4
      4 December 2020 10: 37
      war has been declared on us
      Well, they don't shoot rockets .. but there will always be competition ..
      At school, one friend can be given to cheat - to help him .. and not to give to another - to substitute him .. But this is not a fight ..))
  5. -4
    4 December 2020 10: 26
    And in the budget of the American society of philatelists, are there any articles of sanctions against Russia for SP2 and other newcomers?
  6. +1
    4 December 2020 10: 32
    The insolence of the United States is already going through the roof. It remains for them to impose sanctions on the purchase of Russian serum from COVID-19.
    1. +3
      4 December 2020 10: 37
      Already! And for a long time, back in August.
      The list includes the 33rd Central Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense (Saratov Region), the 48th Central Research Institute of the Russian Ministry of Defense (Kirov), the 48th Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense (Sergiev Posad), the 48th Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense (Yekaterinburg) and the State Research Institute of Organic Chemistry and technologies (GosNIIOKhT).
    2. +2
      4 December 2020 10: 50
      They can and impose .. why not ??
      Or you work with me, receiving billions of dollars .. or you buy a vaccine from my competitor, but after that I will not work with you anymore, and you will not earn billions .. And then decide for yourself .. Will you call me arrogant after that ?? For what?? You have a choice ..
      1. +4
        4 December 2020 11: 04
        Quote: Roman070280
        Or you work with me, receiving billions of dollars .. or you buy a vaccine from my competitor, but after that I will not work with you anymore, and you will not earn billions .. And then decide for yourself .. Will you call me arrogant after that ?? For what?? You have a choice.

        But what choice is there when a Colt was put on your head and offered to choose one single option giving the right to life?
        1. +1
          4 December 2020 11: 16
          they put a colt on your head


          You are confusing something .. there are no FORCES Colt ..
          or you buy a vaccine from my competitor, but after that I won't work with you anymore, and you won't earn billions .. And then decide for yourself ..


          The Germans can start building SP2 even tomorrow, and pump gas ... no one will shoot them for this ..
          But the United States will stop working with firms that will be involved in SP2 ..
          Why does the US have to work with someone it doesn't like ??

          one single option giving the right to life?

          Will the Germans live worse after that ?? Lose billions on US trade ?? Well, yes .. right .. When I come to get a job, they give me the CONDITIONS .. under which I will receive a salary ..
          I'm not yelling that they put a Colt to my head, and they don't give me a good life, forcing me to do what I don't want ...
    3. -2
      4 December 2020 11: 17
      Quote: askort154
      It remains for them to impose sanctions on the purchase of Russian serum from COVID-19.

      There is nothing to vaccinate in the country itself. The country needs about 30 million doses to fight the pandemic, at the moment no more than 500 thousand EU has blocked the sale of bioreactors to us for industrial packaging of vaccines.
  7. -4
    4 December 2020 10: 47
    We are waiting for a response from the Kremlin.
    It seems that it is time for Lavrov to express his concern ...
    1. -2
      4 December 2020 10: 52
      And what are his worries ?? The pipe burst in the apartment or something ..))
    2. -2
      4 December 2020 11: 15
      Quote: prior
      We are waiting for a response from the Kremlin.
      It seems that it is time for Lavrov to express his concern ...

      Sense?
      1. There is no company that would have completed the construction of SP-2
      2. There is no company that insured the work
      3. The United States has provided for sanctions not only against the direct participants in the construction, but also against the secondary companies - provision, support of work.
      1. 0
        4 December 2020 11: 32
        There you will also need pipe certification.
        And even in case of construction, a bunch of obstacles will remain for the direct pumping work ..
      2. 0
        5 December 2020 10: 26
        "In my opinion, friends, it was a comedy. "

        If you cut off the gas supply through Ukraine (is it really so difficult to organize force majeure?) Germany, with the help of Switzerland, will complete the construction of the SP-2 within a month and certify it even before the gas is launched.
        And now, when it's winter outside, it's time ...
        It's time, finally, for Shoigu to do something serious, except for tank biathlon and building temples.
    3. +4
      4 December 2020 11: 34
      Quote: prior
      We are waiting for a response from the Kremlin.
      It seems that it is time for Lavrov to express his concern ...

      Is it all the rage in your hobby club, like a yellow polka-dot tie? Almost every one of you scribbles about the Foreign Ministry and concerns.
      Aren't you tired of yourself? However, you can not answer. Some people know about the word "banality" only how to write it. And that's not all.
      1. 0
        5 December 2020 10: 17
        Not tired of yourself?

        Tired, as tired as it is, that neither the Foreign Ministry nor the Kremlin can answer with anything other than fucking concern.
        I'm tired of the fact that on the international arena we are being rotten and humiliated by all and sundry, ambassadors are being killed with impunity, planes are vilely shot down, and noodles are made about poisoning.
        And WADA, and the Baltic limitrophes, and enemies, and former friends, and their Russophobes - Gozmans with Sytins. And in response, only the banal expressionless hum of the Kremlin impotent.
        Even North Korea looks like a sovereign country against our background.
        Commenting on commentators is not the best way to express your opinion on the content of the article.
        Can we assume that you are satisfied with the failed projects of the Russian authorities?
        Who are you Amenpodestovich?
  8. +1
    4 December 2020 10: 54
    While Ukraine is with Poland, and of course the Baltics, Trump is rejoicing and declares that he will veto the new defense budget for 2021. And this plays into the hands of Germany and those companies that take part in the construction. Let's see if he has enough courage (although he has nothing to lose) to veto or cut the back one at the last moment.
    1. -1
      4 December 2020 11: 07
      it plays into the hands of Germany


      President Vladimir Putin called the recent rise in gasoline prices in Russia unacceptable. He stated this during a straight line. This situation has become the result of "inaccurate regulation" that was carried out in the energy sector, Putin believes.

      The government has revised some tax measures to fill the budget - the so-called maneuver, the president explained. This resulted in stimulating export abroad crude oil. Prices on the world market have risen, so it has become more profitable to export fuel than to sell it in Russia. That to compensate for lost income in the domestic market, companies began to raise gasoline prices, Putin explained.


      And who thinks what .. if SP-2, for example, is completed .. and prices on the world market for gas rise, and export will become more profitable than selling in Russia .. how will they compensate for the lost income ??)
      1. 0
        4 December 2020 11: 25
        Quote: Roman070280

        Who else thinks ..

        There is no one to think, because instead of parrying arguments, only minus. On the site there are not sober heads, but lovers of holding meetings and shouting slogans, expressing their wishes. Im an objective reality like a sickle for babies. Irresponsibility and rallies instead of realism.
    2. +1
      4 December 2020 11: 11
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Trump says he will veto new defense budget for 2021

      Will not impose. The veto technology is such that he must first present evidence of the need for the veto, and the Congress must consider his draft at an unspecified date. The US Congress has the right to reject Trump's veto, especially since in 2 months he is nobody.
    3. +2
      4 December 2020 11: 24
      Quote: rotmistr60
      While Ukraine is with Poland, and of course the Baltics, Trump is rejoicing and declares that he will veto the new defense budget for 2021. And this plays into the hands of Germany and those companies that take part in the construction. Let's see if he has enough courage (although he has nothing to lose) to veto or cut the back one at the last moment.

      And what's the point of him turning on the back? He also remembers how Democrats, in anticipation of Trump's inauguration, passed many of Obama's decisions through the law, which made it impossible for Trump to reverse them. Here he will probably, as an "alaverdi", also try to do everything possible so that the presidential life does not seem like honey to Biden and will leave him a troublesome legacy.
  9. -2
    4 December 2020 10: 56
    "It is very sad for our people. It seems that Senator Jim Inhof will not include in the defense budget an amendment to remove Article 230. <...> Last chance missed. I will veto!" - wrote Trump on Twitter.
    fellow
  10. -2
    4 December 2020 11: 07
    SP-2 is a political project designed to eliminate gas transit through Ukraine. Economically, it would be justified if: it increased the volume of gas or reduced its cost. However, there is no increase in gas volumes, SP-1 is loaded by 50% and the introduction of SP-2 would not increase volumes either. The price of gas supplied by Gazprom is determined by the exchange, and even now, while maintaining transit through Ukraine, its price is falling. According to the results of 3 quarters of this year, Gazprom is in the red. After the sanctions were imposed, Gazprom signed a new gas transit agreement with Ukraine.
    1. 0
      4 December 2020 11: 16
      Quote: Silvestr
      JV-2 is a political project designed to eliminate gas transit through Ukraine

      Colleague, you forgot to mention one more component of this project, and these are construction contractors who calmly pumped Gaztyrprom's money into their pockets.
      1. -2
        4 December 2020 11: 20
        Quote: Stroporez
        Colleague, you forgot to mention one more component of this project, and this

        Quite right, new pipelines from Yamal have been buried in the ground to the Baltic, they are empty. Rotenbergs and Timchenkos are not at the loser
      2. -2
        4 December 2020 12: 34
        Well, and they are contractors, they did the job, they got the money, and Miller is Millerovo if he has no mind.
    2. +1
      4 December 2020 11: 27
      Quote: Silvestr
      After the imposition of the sanctions, Gazprom signed a new gas transit agreement with Ukraine.

      What's the new treaty? They already have a valid contract for a period of 5 years!
      1. 0
        4 December 2020 11: 31
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        there is a valid contract for a period of 5 years

        On December 31, 2019, a gas transit agreement was signed from January 1, 2020.
        1. +1
          4 December 2020 13: 59
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          there is a valid contract for a period of 5 years

          On December 31, 2019, a gas transit agreement was signed from January 1, 2020.

          I also had this in mind. It's just that from your commentary, I understand that in the wilds of gas relations between Ukraine and Russia, a new treaty has emerged.
      2. 0
        4 December 2020 11: 36
        So about him and speech ..
        Before that, they shouted that everything - we will not download any more under any circumstances .. and last winter they signed a new one, they also paid a fine to ykras ..
        1. +1
          4 December 2020 13: 56
          Quote: Roman070280
          Before that, they shouted that everything - we will not download any more under any circumstances ... and last winter we signed a new one,

          They didn't shout. The agreement was expiring, and it was proposed to extend it for a period of one year, which did not suit Ukraine, which wanted to freeze transit for 10 years. As a result, we agreed on five, with pumping, if I am not mistaken, 60 billion cubic meters in the first year, and 40 billion cubic meters in the next four years. There was no talk of a complete stop of transit at all, because all the same, they were going to pump 15 billion to keep the Ukrainian GTS in working order. In principle, even with the launch of SP-2, these 15 billion will remain in the pipe to support the trousers of those who service this pipe. Lost income from the loss of transit, ukrohuntiki will collect from their population through the rise in tariffs. So the political "hopak with a pipe" is coming to its logical conclusion and Ukraine as a transit country will be of no interest to either Europe or Russia.
          1. 0
            4 December 2020 14: 19
            They didn't shout.

            Since I write that they were shouting, it means they were shouting ..))

            Gazprom has reaffirmed plans to stop gas transit through Ukraine to Europe after 2019, Interfax reports. At a press conference in Moscow, Deputy Chairman of the Board of the company Alexander Medvedev said, “after the end of the transit contract with Ukraine, neither an extension nor a new will not under any circumstances". Earlier, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak has repeatedly said that Russia does not plan to renew the contract for gas transit through Ukraine after 2019. Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller also announced Russia's firm intention to abandon Ukraine's services as a transit country for gas to Europe after 2019. , reminds "Prime".




            Well, a little more chatter:

            "Gazprom" forced to immediately start the termination procedure contracts with "Naftogaz" for the supply and transit of gas in the Stockholm Arbitration, said on Friday, March 2, the company's CEO Alexey Miller. We are talking about two contracts for the supply of gas to Ukrainian consumers and the transit of gas to Europe through Ukraine, which expire at the end of 2019.

            Miller explained such a sudden step by the "asymmetric decision" of the same Stockholm Arbitration, which ruled on February 28 that Gazprom must pay Naftogaz $ 4,63 billion for undersupply of gas under a transit agreement (provides for the annual transit of at least 110 billion cubic meters of gas; in 2009–2014, the company supplied an average of 94 billion cubic meters per year). But in December 2017, considering the first dispute between Naftogaz and Gazprom regarding the purchase of Russian gas, the arbitrators did not fine Kiev for gas shortages (Gazprom demanded $ 56 billion for violating the take-or-pay principle) due to a sharp deterioration of its economy, deciding that it should pay Gazprom only for the already supplied gas $ 2 billion. Thus, following the results of two decisions the Russian company should transfer about $ 2,6 billion to the Ukrainian one.

            Thus, according to Miller, the arbitration decision significantly upset the balance of interests of the parties under the two contracts. In such situation the continuation of the contracts for Gazprom is economically impractical and unprofitablehe concluded.



            As a result, the fine was paid and a new contract was signed.
          2. +1
            4 December 2020 17: 46
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            So the political "hopak with a pipe" is coming to its logical conclusion and Ukraine as a transit country will be of no interest to either Europe or Russia.

            That is why the US has blocked SP-2.
            But ... To conclude a new transit agreement, Gazprom and Naftogaz had to sign an amicable agreement on litigation over the previous contract, which expired on December 31, 2019.
            1. One of the conditions of the world - payment of $ 2,9 billion to Naftogaz by the decision of the Stockholm Arbitration for the shortage of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transmission system to Europe. These funds were paid by Gazprom, which had not previously recognized the arbitration award, on December 27.
            2. Kiev, in turn, refused to collect from Gazprom about $ 7 billion, which, according to the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine, the Russian company had to pay for violating the contract with Naftogaz due to the reduction in gas transit. Naftogaz should also withdraw a new $ 12 billion lawsuit against Gazprom, filed in the Stockholm Arbitration Court in November 2019 alone.
            According to the settlement agreement, Naftogaz must also apply for the lifting of the arrests on property, assets and
            the funds of Gazprom, which he sought because of the refusal of the Russian company to enforce the decision of the Stockholm Arbitration for $ 2,9 billion.
            It turns out that Kiev also regretted Gazprom's money
  11. -2
    4 December 2020 12: 31
    An open day in a madhouse called the US Congress, they all piled up. And after that, someone will talk to me about American democracy, by God I will spit in the face. A bunch of idiots and idiots, behave like that pigeon while playing chess.