When launched, I was Leonid Brezhnev: on the day of the anniversary of the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, the date of the start of its post-repair tests was announced

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Exactly 35 years ago, the launching of the aircraft carrier “Leonid Brezhnev” took place in the USSR. Today, on the day of the anniversary, this warship bears a different name - "Admiral Kuznetsov", being the only aircraft carrier in the Russian Naval fleet... It is unlikely that in December 1985 in the Soviet Union someone could have assumed that in three and a half decades the aircraft carrier in the country would remain the only one, and even more so he could hardly have assumed that the country itself, called the USSR, would not exist on the world map.

On the day of the 35th anniversary of the launching of the future Admiral Kuznetsov at that time, it became known when the aircraft carrier, after repairs, would go for testing.



According to TASS, citing an industry source, the start of post-repair and post-modernization tests is scheduled for 2022. Earlier, speaking about a specific date, it was reported that "tests can begin in early summer 2022".

At the same time, it is argued that in the summer of 2021, "Admiral Kuznetsov" should re-dock. However, details are not disclosed: in which dock the aircraft carrier should dock. As you know, the floating dock PD-50, in which the aircraft-carrying cruiser was being repaired, sank on the night of October 30, 2018. It was not reported that it was raised, although initially the persons in charge claimed that they would raise the floating dock with a length of more than 300 m.

Source TASS said that to date, repair work on the aircraft carrier "Admiral Kuznetsov" is "in the middle of the planned period."

One of the stages of repair and modernization of an aircraft carrier is the replacement of its boilers. Also "Admiral Kuznetsov" will receive new weapons. According to some reports, hypersonic missiles can become the main armament in addition to the air wing, but this information has not been officially confirmed at the moment.
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  1. +4
    4 December 2020 06: 27
    On the day of the 35th anniversary of launching
    Yes .... The old man. hi
    1. +23
      4 December 2020 06: 41
      Well, I will also build aircraft carriers of the Nimitz type for 40 years, some, the problem of Kuznetsov is not in age, but in operation.
      1. 0
        4 December 2020 08: 40
        Quote: Pechkin
        , Kuznetsov's problem is not age but operation.

        He was born at the wrong time and fell into the wrong hands.
        1. +8
          4 December 2020 08: 51
          He came to us, so it seems to be in those hands, but the fact that at the wrong time is for sure.
          1. 0
            4 December 2020 09: 03
            Quote: Pechkin
            He came to us, so it seems to be in those hands.

            He fell into the hands of eboputinists, who can break even what does not break and steal what is not stolen.
            He was destined for the fate of serving the Great Country, and he fell into total shit and if he could, he would have drowned himself, but he cannot open the Kingstones on his own, so he has to endure all the bullying and smoke for the whole gamerope, and now slowly die at walls.
            1. +2
              4 December 2020 19: 01
              In fact, initially he fell into the hands of the Chubais and others like him.
      2. +1
        5 December 2020 01: 00
        Quote: Pechkin
        Well, I will also build aircraft carriers of the Nimitz type for 40 years, some, the problem of Kuznetsov is not in age, but in operation.

        You will see that this avik will also fly into space on its own. wink Some 70 years later ... After another modernization. laughing hi
      3. 0
        6 December 2020 01: 49
        the main problems in the power plant. I don’t understand at all how it was possible not to give the ship a nuclear installation.
    2. +13
      4 December 2020 06: 46
      The other day Nimitz went to the Persian Gulf to scare the Persians, so he is on the 75th.)
    3. +11
      4 December 2020 07: 22
      For not having a nuclear power plant, it is necessary to repair the Soviet aircraft-carrying cruiser. Save Leonid Ilyich!
      1. +4
        4 December 2020 07: 48
        Quote: Civil
        it is necessary to repair the Soviet aircraft-carrying cruiser.

        This aircraft-carrying cruiser must be repaired by the manufacturer, and so that the manufacturer would not have any opportunity to refuse. After all, the guaranteed obligations to the government of the Union for maintenance and repair have not been fulfilled, and Russia is the receiver of the Union. This is even written in the new edition of the Constitution. To do this, it is high time to send a couple of large landing ships to the Nikolaev shipbuilding shipyard to conclude a contract and take the plant and adjacent territories under protection.
        1. 0
          4 December 2020 08: 39
          Quote: Vita VKO
          To do this, it is high time to send a couple of large landing ships to the Nikolaev shipbuilding plant to conclude a contract and take the plant and adjacent territories under protection.

          Are you sure that this pair of UDCs will be greeted with solemn fireworks? Or do you write your nonsense, simply because you know how to write?
        2. +5
          4 December 2020 10: 53
          Quote: Vita VKO
          To do this, it is high time to send a couple of large landing ships to the Nikolaev shipbuilding plant to conclude a contract and take the plant and adjacent territories under protection.

          Well, probably it would be possible to send the BDK, if only personnel capable of carrying out repairs remained at that plant. And so at that plant, as in the song of Arkady Severny: "And stone by stone, brick by brick, they pulled away the brick factory."
        3. +6
          4 December 2020 14: 02
          Quote: Vita VKO
          To do this, it is high time to send a couple of large landing ships to the Nikolaev shipbuilding plant to conclude a contract and take the plant and adjacent territories under protection.

          Who needs empty collapsed workshops and buildings now? It is stupid to take under protection the pieces of concrete and iron.
        4. -2
          5 December 2020 17: 30
          Can jackals eating up a lion's carcass be considered his successors?
      2. -2
        4 December 2020 07: 48
        By the end of his life, Leonid Ilyich also had health problems. And, too, they tried to save at any cost.
        1. +5
          4 December 2020 08: 52
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          By the end of his life, Leonid Ilyich also had health problems.
          If after this repair he conscientiously serves at least half of Brezhnev's term in power, we will only be glad.
    4. +11
      4 December 2020 07: 49
      "Before death: bury me upside down - why Leonid Ilyich? - the time will come to kiss you in the middle."

      -return The name of Brezhnev and aircraft carriers will appear in the Russian Federation in quantity and quality comparable to the 70-80 years of the 20th century
  2. +3
    4 December 2020 06: 54
    Such a worthy name for the ship ... And such a difficult fate. Thanks even though this one stayed and surpassed it on the Northern Fleet. Otherwise, our chubby neighbors, who dug the sea, would have sold it for scrap. I hope the outskirts, too, will soon be handed over to the scrap history.
  3. +3
    4 December 2020 07: 09
    The fleet is waiting for him!
    And also his children, young and modern ...
    1. 0
      4 December 2020 08: 26
      Quote: Doccor18
      The fleet is waiting for him!
      And also his children, young and modern ...

      We have been waiting for the promised for 20 years, but here no one even promised.
      So far, only Mars by 2050.
      1. 0
        4 December 2020 08: 32
        So far, only Mars by 2050.

        By 2050, Mars will begin immediately behind Tyumen ...
        1. 0
          4 December 2020 09: 10
          Quote: Doccor18
          By 2050, Mars will begin immediately behind Tyumen ...

          Comrade, if everything continues in the same spirit, it will be right outside the Moscow Ring Road.
  4. -9
    4 December 2020 07: 12
    Then, they will put on modernization, and in 2024 the fleet will receive a "new aircraft carrier" with a new name "Vladimir Putin" ???
  5. +3
    4 December 2020 07: 13
    Exactly 35 years ago, the launching of the aircraft carrier "Leonid Brezhnev" took place in the USSR.

    Do not call warships by the names of politicians. "As you name the ship, so it will float."
    1. 0
      4 December 2020 07: 51
      Will the Bushy and Kenedy sink? Is the united states doing everything wrong?
      aFord?
    2. 0
      4 December 2020 08: 25
      Quote: askort154
      Do not call warships by the names of politicians. "As you name the ship, so it will float."

      What can you say about the fate of the ships named after "Nakhimov"?
  6. -5
    4 December 2020 07: 19
    they promise .. but really it is not known whether it will ever go out to sea, it would be better sold to China to India. there is no dock and will not be so fast, and there is no escort group for him at sea, that is, he has become useless
    1. +2
      4 December 2020 12: 35
      Quote: vladimir1155
      and there is no escort group for him at sea, that is, he has become useless

      At one time, KIEV went to military service in Mediterranean as a part of 2 BOD pr 1134A and 1 RKB. And nothing, he was even very useful in 5 OPESK. And the squadron headquarters at FKP worked very well and was glad that each operator had an AWP, and not "on his knee", as before, he had to lay out documents and maps.
      AHA.
      1. -4
        4 December 2020 18: 28
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        The squadron headquarters at FKP worked very well and was glad that each operator had an automated workstation, and not "on his knee", as before, he had to lay out documents and maps.
        Super! just wonderful! contain a vessel of 61 thousand tons and 5000 hp for the sake of the convenience of unfolding the operational card to the staff rats ... ... a couple of bpk and one cr ... in a combat situation this is not an order, they will drown all of them in 10 minutes, and in peacetime, a tug is enough with a tanker ... but where to get the money from the tanker, then fill it up and throw the black smoke of a useless ship into the wind?
  7. +3
    4 December 2020 07: 31
    Yes .... old man
    An old man and criticized by the West, but on hearing, since and in this "old man" the West saw a threat. The "old man" will also serve for the good of the Motherland.
    1. -8
      4 December 2020 07: 58
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The "old man" will also serve for the good of the Motherland.

      Nobody needs this "old man" ...
      But no one wants to raise this issue.
      1. +3
        4 December 2020 12: 49
        Quote: Bez 310
        Nobody needs this "old man" ...

        Anyone - in the sense of the infantry? They definitely don't need it. At one time on KUMZH one regiment asked, looking at the KIEV standing on the roadstead, what was the displacement of the TAKR. And then, dreamily rolling his eyes, he said: "This is how many tanks from 40 thousand tons of metal could be made!" fellow
        For the FLEET, it is needed. And above all, so as not to lose school, aircraft carrier, naval aviation. To have a place to test new samples of aviation technology. And in the event of an increase in tension, he will be able to cover our units in the area of ​​the "bear" corner. And this is not enough.
        So, do not rush to rip off the horseshoes from the savraska - it will still serve until a replacement comes. Yes
        IMHO.
        1. -5
          4 December 2020 14: 09
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          And above all, so as not to lose school, aircraft carrier, naval aviation. ... And in the event of an increase in tension, he will be able to cover our units in the area of ​​the "bear" corner.

          Stop repeating nonsense.
          Who needs this "school"?
          What kind of "ones" are you going to cover?
          Soon the ship will crumble from old age, and he
          have not yet figured out the destination.
          1. +2
            4 December 2020 14: 38
            Quote: Bez 310
            Stop repeating nonsense.

            Colleague, I understand that not everyone is given ... But why so ... vulgarly express yourself !?
            Quote: Bez 310
            Who needs this "school"?

            You definitely do not need it - the scale of understanding the problems of the fleet is not the same. The future FLEET is even really needed.
            Quote: Bez 310
            What kind of "ones" are you going to cover?

            The ones that the BPA is looking for. I suppose you will not argue that a pair of Su-33s will be able to overwhelm the P-8 from a base in B / Britain or Norway.
            Quote: Bez 310
            Soon the ship will crumble from old age

            Therefore, they modernize and repair so as not to crumble. laughing
            Quote: Bez 310
            he has not yet come up with a purpose.

            Apparently laziness was born before you! Do not count it for work, well, at least take a look at the wiki! Maybe then there will still be a clearing in the mind ... Yes
            1. -1
              4 December 2020 15: 02
              It's sad somehow ... Nothing new, just old spells.
              The Russian Navy will never (NEVER) have an aircraft carrier, no
              no money, no need for it. Hence the uselessness of "school"
              pilots of carrier-based aircraft. Yes, she has been gone for a long time.
              Why do we need to bring down Poseidon? I don’t understand ...
            2. -4
              4 December 2020 19: 12
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              a pair of Su-33s will be able to overwhelm P-8s from bases in B / Britain or Norway.

              at first, a couple with an incomplete combat load will have to overwhelm three coast-based Norwegian F16 squadrons, that is, with a full combat load, who will win? what do you think? or will your pair of SU 33s fight 174 British fighters?
              1. +1
                4 December 2020 20: 35
                Quote: vladimir1155
                who will win? what do you think?

                The DA or the Strategic Missile Forces will win, having struck a preliminary blow at enemy airfields. And you can write down all your "coastal" aircraft as dead. Immediately, even before the start of a serious showdown ... over the sea. They do not fly there, BO is "coastal" aviation.
                AHA.
                1. 0
                  4 December 2020 21: 59
                  Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
                  The DA or the Strategic Missile Forces will win, having struck a preliminary blow at enemy airfields. And you can write down all your "coastal" aircraft as dead. Immediately, even before the start of a serious showdown ... over the sea. They do not fly there, BO is "coastal" aviation.
                  AHA.

                  I completely agree that the Strategic Missile Forces, nuclear submarines and YES are needed as part of it .... then AB is not needed it is better to make a dozen TU 160, a couple of nuclear submarines, and a dozen Yars, instead of one unnecessary old incapacitated vessel, with its displacement exceeding the entire remaining Russian Navy
                  1. 0
                    4 December 2020 22: 57
                    Quote: vladimir1155
                    it is better to make a dozen TU 160, a couple of nuclear submarines, and a dozen Yars, instead of one unnecessary old unfit for battle
                    Vladimir, unfortunately we have different views on this issue. Probably because I am Alexander 1143.1, and you are Vladimir 1155.
                    Best regards, drinks
                    1. -1
                      5 December 2020 00: 37
                      I agree, all 1143 1164 1144 and other mindless monsters were a mistake, only series 1135, 1155 11356 22350 is really in demand ... 1155 is the maximum size of a surface ship that makes sense
          2. 0
            4 December 2020 19: 07
            invented a long time ago, just do not speak out loud, empty show-offs, this is its purpose
          3. 0
            4 December 2020 20: 24
            His case is excellent. saturate only
        2. -2
          4 December 2020 18: 38
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          Anyone - in the sense of the infantry? They definitely don't need it.

          Russia is a land power. We all sailors live on the shore .... figuratively, if this or that weapon is not needed by the "infantry", then no one needs it at all.
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          For the FLEET, it is needed. And above all, so as not to lose school, aircraft carrier, naval aviation. To have a place to test new samples of aviation technology. And in the event of an increase in tension, he will be able to cover our units in the area of ​​the "bear" corner. And this is not enough.

          all lies, the concept of "fleet" is very conditional, what is it? a feeder for the admiral? The fleet has tasks to defend the land, and only in this vein is this or that ship valuable or useless. And AV is useless in this respect, unlike nuclear submarines, and the means of their support (frigates of coastal aviation minesweepers, etc.) As for the "school" ... there is no need to contain something unnecessary in order not to lose this unnecessary .... there is already in Crimea THREAD, and that's enough. .... Well, by what means will he cover someone? he himself is vulnerable and needs cover.
  8. +3
    4 December 2020 07: 45
    In general, we are waiting in the fleet not earlier than 2024-2025. Better than nothing
  9. -8
    4 December 2020 08: 19
    Unlucky ship.
    Even if the repairs are brought to mind, it is not clear why the current fleet needs it.
    Maximum as training for the crew and pilots. Well, and a demonstrator of technologies to maintain the competencies of the industry (and that's not a fact).
    1. +5
      4 December 2020 08: 46
      Maximum as training for the crew and pilots. Well, and a demonstrator of technologies to maintain the competencies of the industry (and that's not a fact).


      Well, this is the most important thing so far.
    2. +7
      4 December 2020 09: 02
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      it is not clear why he is in the current fleet

      Dear Jacket in stock, in your aforementioned phrase, the misunderstandings belong entirely to you. The Navy understands very well why it needs an aircraft carrier - at least some. As a surface sailor, I can add that I would feel unparalleled at sea knowing that our steamer has an umbrella from AWACS and fighter-attack aircraft than our usual solo unsupported campaigns.
      1. -2
        4 December 2020 13: 31
        As a surface sailor, I can add that I would feel unparalleled at sea knowing that our steamer has an umbrella from AWACS and fighter-attack aircraft than our usual solo unsupported campaigns.

        Dear Galleon, can you please tell me about the composition of the ship group "Admiral Kuznetsov"?
        If I am not mistaken, the Russian Federation does not have a carrier-based AWACS aircraft ... therefore, there is no situation and target designations from a specific water area either, and therefore it turns out that the naval group is blind and deaf.
        1. +3
          4 December 2020 14: 12
          Quote: Merry_Militarist
          If I am not mistaken, the Russian Federation does not have a carrier-based AWACS aircraft ... therefore, there is no situation and target designations from a specific water area either, and therefore it turns out that the naval group is blind and deaf.

          There is a palliative - an AWACS helicopter. Not "Hawkeye", of course (especially in terms of lines and duty time) - but at least something.
          1. -2
            4 December 2020 14: 22
            There is a palliative - an AWACS helicopter. Not "Hawkeye", of course (especially in terms of lines and duty time) - but at least something.

            Well, I, in fact, just about the "Hawkeye" or something similar meant, about the helicopter group, I know.
        2. +3
          4 December 2020 14: 13
          Quote: Merry_Militarist
          Dear Galleon, can you please tell me about the composition of the ship group "Admiral Kuznetsov"?
          If I am not mistaken, the Russian Federation does not have a carrier-based AWACS aircraft ... therefore, there is no situation and target designations from a specific water area either, and therefore it turns out that the naval group is blind and deaf.

          The ship group of any AUG is a variable matter, it depends on different nuances, who can be assembled)). You are not mistaken, there is no AWACS aircraft yet, which is needed for the last 40 years. In practice, helicopters were used as AWACS. This task can be performed by ships of the far zone of protection. But if there is no aircraft carrier, then the AWACS aircraft will never appear.
          1. -3
            4 December 2020 14: 28
            But if there is no aircraft carrier, then the AWACS aircraft will never appear.

            And the ocean fleet and auxiliary forces oh, how Russia needs it, otherwise they will lock us on the continent and in coastal waters while we are underway.
            So far, however, I cherish the hope of resurrection, at least three of the four TARKr pr. 1144. A full-blooded aircraft carrier, like the unfulfilled Ulyanovsk, only in models and dreams so far ...
            1. 0
              4 December 2020 22: 03
              Quote: Merry_Militarist
              So far, however, I cherish the hope of resurrection, at least three of the four TARKr pr. 1144.

              a vain hope, there are already only two of them physically, the repair of Nakhimov resulted in such astronomical sums that Petya will most likely have a light HTG or just write off ... so in fact there is a couple, but soon one will remain. Petya is 22 years old, Nakhimov will be done for another 4-5 years. then they will think for a couple of years and decide that the renovation of Petya, 29, is inexpedient. By that time, Ustinov, Moscow and Varyag would finally become obsolete morally and physically .... yes, Nakhimov would turn out to be an old man. Most likely, 1155 will not last forever, so in 10 years 8-12 frigates will represent the entire surface fleet of the second rank and they will be very busy around the bases of the nuclear submarine ... Kuzi has no escort and will not
        3. +2
          4 December 2020 15: 42
          The "Admiral Kuznetsov" has helicopters AWACS Ka-31. It's certainly not Hawkeye, but it's still much better than nothing. So at the turn of 250 - 300 km. from KUG \ AUG to control carrier-based fighters will be someone and what.
          But this is the main task of the aircraft carrier - to provide air defense / air cover for the ship group. Along with PLO and shock functions using heavy anti-ship missiles.
          1. 0
            4 December 2020 22: 14
            Quote: bayard
            But this is the main task of the aircraft carrier - providing air defense / air cover for the ship group

            List the ephemeral group that you are going to protect, its goals and objectives ... how to protect what is not, and why, if there are no tasks. ..... 200 km drlo is not for aviation, but for missiles. A helicopter does not need AB, a corvette is enough
            1. -1
              4 December 2020 22: 44
              Quote: vladimir1155
              A helicopter does not need AB, a corvette is enough

              For a corvette, the Ka-31 will be heavy, because even the Ka-29 is a field of several experiments, in the USSR it was forbidden to base it on light and middle class ships. Although they seem to have been trying to establish them in India, I have no data on how successful they are.
              Quote: vladimir1155
              A 200 km drill is not for aviation, but for missiles.

              This is the detection range of fighter / KR targets against the background of the underlying surface. The helicopter does not have to hang / hover over the carrier ship, it can be moved 50-100 km towards the expected threat. And there may be more than one such helicopter, so it was planned to have 4 of them on Kuznetsov, but in reality we have 2. ... the rest were supplied in commercial quantities to China and India.
              And, by the way, it is aviation (fighters) under the control of an airplane / helicopter AWACS that are the most effective means of air defense against CD - the interception line can be moved away from the KUG / AUG by several hundred km.
              Quote: vladimir1155
              List that ephemeral group that you are going to protect, its goals and objectives ... how to protect something that does not exist,

              "Admiral Kuznetsov" is based on the Northern Fleet, therefore it is necessary to consider the presence of surface forces of this particular fleet. And at the same time, it must be borne in mind that this venerable ship will not return to service before 2023.
              Will we try?
              - Nuclear missile cruiser "Peter the Great". \ by 2022 will most likely already be under repair, but this is not a big deal, because \.
              - From 2022 to 2023, the upgraded cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" should already be in service, with a completely updated composition of weapons.
              - Missile cruiser "Ustinov" pr. 1164. After modernization.
              - Two BODs pr. 1155 (+ one more in modernization), and one of them by 2023 may already be in a modernized form.
              - Two newest frigates of project 22350.
              - By 2023, it is possible that they will be overhauled (with replacement of boilers), the destroyer pr. "Sarych".

              ... Well, there are already at least one KUG / AUG pennants. Moreover, they are available (except for "Sarych") today. I did not list the large landing craft, tugs, tankers and supply ships, but they are definitely there for one KUG / AUG.

              And the tasks of the Northern Fleet have been and remain unchanged - to ensure the safety of the deployment of our SSBNs, to isolate the area from the enemy submarines and its submarines - the air defense and anti-aircraft missile defense of the area.
              Well, and as an option - the provision of a landing operation in the area of ​​the "Norwegian corner". In any case, such tasks have always been the responsibility of the Federation Council in the war / threatened period.
              1. 0
                5 December 2020 00: 47
                you listed accurately and optimistically the entire list of nc 1-2 ranks of the largest fleet, ... firstly, forget the sarych at once, the bpk one by one and the further the more often they are taken out for repairs, subtract a couple, Ustinov is forever assigned to the Mediterranean, the total is one or two bpk , one cr, one or two frigates ..., three units go far? .... and who will guard the water area around the base of the nuclear submarine? .... there are three pennants just barely enough and the CD in the role of a BOD will remain there too ... there is no one to go far, the residents of Murmansk and Arkhangelsk are more expensive there ...
                An old Jew dies. there is a wife and children.
                - Is Monya here? The Jew asks barely.
                - Here.
                “Has Aunt Branagh come?
                - I came.
                - Where is grandmother? I do not see her.
                - Here she stands.
                - And Isak?
                - Isak is here.
                - What about children?
                - These are all the children.
                - Who stayed in the shop?! .....
                and why don't goalkeepers in football run far? because the field is large, and the goalkeeper is small, you can bypass it and score a goal .. here is your favorite "AUG", etc. .... they will just bypass. understandably? that's the same!
                1. 0
                  5 December 2020 01: 26
                  Quote: vladimir1155
                  you have listed accurately and optimistically the entire list of nc 1-2 ranks of the largest fleet, ... firstly, forget the sarych right away,

                  I wouldn’t count him, but then a very interesting message came that he was still being overhauled (namely, in a major overhaul, with the replacement of boilers and repair of the power plant), and all because the need to replace boilers "Kuznetsova" forced to resume their production and they are of the same type for "Kuzi" and "Sarychi". So they will otkapitalat "Sarych", at least for me - it would be better to upgrade another BOD in parallel. But it is as it is. So in 3 years "Sarych" will be out of repair and run for another 10 years. Maybe the weapons and avionics will be updated.
                  Quote: vladimir1155
                  bpc alternately and the further the more often they are taken out for repair, we subtract a couple,

                  One of the four that was available has just been scrapped, one went this fall for modernization like "Shaposhnikov", two are in service. I counted them.
                  Quote: vladimir1155
                  you forgot a couple of modern frigates

                  Not at all.
                  Quote: bayard
                  - Two newest frigates of project 22350.

                  as you can see, indicated.
                  Quote: vladimir1155
                  ... and who will guard the water area around the nuclear submarine base ?.

                  For this there is an IPC and patrolmen, and why should our KUG / AUG climb far from the north?
                  There she belongs!
                  After all, its main task is to cover the area of ​​combat deployment of our submarine missile carriers, primarily from the enemy's anti-submarine aircraft and its submarines. For this, a regiment of fighters on the deck and a squadron of submarine helicopters. Plus, all escort ships have anti-submarine sharpening.
                  I spoke specifically about service in the "Northern Bastion", and not about campaigns to distant shores. You can, of course, go to Middle-earth - in winter, warm the bones, train the pilots.
                  But!
                  Only in calm - peacetime.
                  During the threatened period, Kuznetsov’s place is in the “bastion”.


                  And be eager to drive the "Kuzya" to Mediterranean again, so he has a large escort for the transition and there is nothing - 2 - 3 pennants with his head will be enough. And in its place all of it ... no, ALL fellow The 5th operational squadron will meet!
                  Black Sea frigates. Yes
                  MRK of different types. bully
                  And even ... EVEN "Moskva" can prop up "Kuzya" with its side - it won't sink! soldier
                  Moreover, after 2022, 1 - 2 new frigates 22350 should enter service every year. BOD modernization will pass and will become ... UH what will be.
                  And of course - "Nakhimov". Yes
                  Will come out of the repair and modernization and all at once ... no ...
                  ALL will be plunged into shock and awe.
                  And when "Petra" will be discharged (even without modernity), then even more - in two.
                  Finland will urgently return to Russia, and Norway will be asked to join the Eurasian Union.
                  England will drink poison. Yes
                  And Germany will be renamed to the GDR.
                  I will simply keep silent about France, because the French Soviet Socialist Republic will ask to return to the USSR. bully And we will take, because their wine is good.
                  You just need to return the ship to its correct historical NAME - "Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev".
                  And everyone, EVERYTHING, will immediately understand.
                  They will understand that ... TIME.
                  1. 0
                    5 December 2020 13: 54
                    Quote: bayard
                    During the threatened period, the place of "Kuznetsov" is in the "bastion"

                    I agree with this, but its effectiveness is still low, in practice it is an attempt to use at least something in general, a useless ship, extremely expensive to maintain. It is more efficient to have five TU22 ready to take off from a coastal base. as well as a real drlo A100, and a pair of BE200 PLOs, this group will be an order of magnitude more efficient than Kuzi, with its 5000 crew and astronomical expenses for its repairs and supplies
                    1. +1
                      5 December 2020 16: 10
                      Quote: vladimir1155
                      in practice, this is an attempt to use at least some generally useless ship,

                      Well, how can a ship be useless with a squadron (!) Of helicopter submarines and a whole regiment of carrier-based fighters on board?
                      After all, the task is to provide for the air defense and anti-aircraft weapons of the "bastion".
                      Who else in that place and in those conditions is able to provide this.
                      Quote: vladimir1155
                      It is more efficient to have five TU22s ready for departure from the coastal base.

                      This is ONLY for strikes against enemy surface ships, and with the condition of accurate and high-quality target designation.
                      Quote: vladimir1155
                      as well as a real drill A100

                      It would be nice if there were such. Yes
                      So, however, still no. request
                      And how many of them should we have in the theater of operations in order to ensure continuous radar control of the air and surface situation?
                      Not less than 3 - 4 pcs.
                      Now we multiply by the number of fleets and directions, and ... we understand that during our lifetime we will not have this.
                      Quote: vladimir1155
                      and a pair of BE200 PLO

                      These do not exist in nature, their usefulness is EXTREMELY questionable due to their short range and insufficient payload.
                      How many hours can this aircraft be able to patrol in the "bastion"?
                      Yes, not at all - if he gets there, it is not a fact that he will return.
                      But PLO helicopters from the deck of "Kuznetsov" and escort ships will tax the entire area of ​​responsibility. And they will be able to control it for a long time in a continuous mode.
                      And the fighters of the air wing will disperse all anti-submarine aircraft in the district and will be able to provide reliable air defense KUG / AUG from enemy strike aircraft.
                      Will five medium bombers, an AWACS aircraft and a pair of patrol and rescue aircraft (they are not capable of a larger Be-200) be able to make such a thing?

                      If the ship (Kuznetsov) is serviceable, then everything else will depend only on the skill of the l / s and logistics.
                      And of course - from the competence of the command staff of the Federation Council.
      2. 0
        4 December 2020 18: 40
        Quote: Galleon
        umbrella from AWACS

        What is it like ? Where What? you have a fantasy ..... Kuzi doesn't have it
  10. +2
    4 December 2020 09: 10
    Happy birthday, the only one!
  11. -5
    4 December 2020 09: 35
    "One of the stages of repair and modernization of an aircraft carrier is the replacement of its boilers." "Post-refurbishment and post-modernization tests are slated to begin in 2022."
    If they talk about the timing, then they know where to get the boilers .. I wonder where? taking into account that there is no one to make them in the Russian Federation .. And at the same time they promise that in 2 years the tests will come out .. it looks like a lie ..
    1. +3
      4 December 2020 13: 10
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      so they know where to get the boilers .. I wonder where? considering that there is no one to make them in the Russian Federation.... And at the same time they promise that in 2 years it will be tested. seems like a lie..

      1. The first boilers were shipped to him back in August 2017.
      2. In the photo - One of the new steam boilers produced by OJSC “Special Design Bureau of Boiler Building”, intended for the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser “Admiral Kuznetsov”.

      3. About the "untruth". Anything can happen with the timing. But under Mishustin, this is unlikely to pass. Mikhmish is a very corrosive and digitized Premier. Unlike Plush-slicker. If he took Anatoly Borisovich for a Faberge, then he obviously will not get off from some Rakhmanov, from the living!
      4. And they will rest Kuzya in the North, in the dry dock in Rost, which is now being built at an accelerated pace from 2 small ones.
      So, keep the gloating and doubts to yourself for now. Use it later, on occasion, if a bummer happens. bully
      1. +2
        4 December 2020 15: 15
        Where did you see my gloating, Alexander? What word? I really didn’t know that they are doing them here, it’s still a serious unit .. You could just enlighten me, and not accuse me of gloating .. and doubts .. are they unfounded? yes, I will be very glad if he goes to sea in 2 years .. but I think that in your heart you also understand that this is unlikely, but just like me - you hope for the best .. I just speak openly about doubts. ...
        1. +2
          4 December 2020 20: 40
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          You also understand in your heart that this is unlikely,

          In my heart I really hope that the TAVKR will be operational and for another 10-15 years it will honestly serve its country. Fair.
    2. -1
      4 December 2020 20: 30
      Don't whistle! everything is already done. established
  12. +1
    4 December 2020 12: 56
    AEU would be for him instead of KTU.
    1. +2
      4 December 2020 14: 41
      Quote: Bersaglieri
      AEU would be for him instead of KTU.

      This whole project needs to be redone. Easier and easier to build a new one. Which, probably, will be done after 2025.
  13. +1
    4 December 2020 12: 58
    We must start the reverse process. For a start, I propose to rename it to "Leonid Brezhnev", to punish the head for a drowned floating dock, ...
  14. +2
    4 December 2020 13: 25
    What we have, we have, as they say. Kuznetsov's problem, in my opinion, is his incomprehensible concept - neither a full-fledged nuclear aircraft carrier with a wide deck nor a missile cruiser in the full sense. In addition, an outdated boiler and turbine installation, which has already given out many surprises on long trips. But for not having the best, it is worth keeping at least this little in working order.
    1. -1
      4 December 2020 21: 13
      Refresh. Ponder
  15. -1
    4 December 2020 19: 23
    On the way to the scrap will go! It's a pity of course there is no replacement. Eh, forgive us the USSR, they did not save. Go gram
    1. -1
      4 December 2020 20: 53
      Renovation in progress. what junk?)))
      1. +1
        4 December 2020 21: 55
        Will you personally repair there with a cutter? You are our repairman. Where is Lazirev? Nothing, he is still swimming at World of Ships.
        1. -2
          4 December 2020 22: 05
          Abomination? As you wish. Repair is in progress
          1. +1
            4 December 2020 22: 11
            Abomination?
            Yes. For the USSR, not these "reformers" - multipliers. Eh, once did things in Nikolaev.