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Retired American general: We need to immediately admit Georgia to NATO

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Georgia's territorial differences with its neighbors should not prevent its entry into the North Atlantic Alliance. An example of this is the situation in the last century, when West Germany entered NATO, despite the fact that at that time the Soviet army was stationed in the eastern part of the country, which was then called the GDR. Thus, a precedent was created when a state with a "partially occupied territory" became a member of the alliance.


This was stated by the former commander of the American troops in Europe, General Ben Hodges, during an online conversation with Georgian analysts from the Geocase organization. A recording of the conversation was published on the website of this think tank.

We need to immediately admit Georgia to NATO.

- he said.

The retired American general also added that NATO should conduct military exercises involving the armies of Ukraine, Georgia, Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary. He believes that these maneuvers should be no less large-scale than the Caucasus-2020 exercises organized by Russia this year.

The general noted that the South Caucasus is of geostrategic importance. The joint exercises that Hodges spoke of should demonstrate to Russia that the US and NATO "care" about the region.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 2 December 2020 12: 06
    +8
    Apparently the NATO Charter - directly prohibiting the admission of Countries with unresolved territorial disputes and unsettled conflicts into the organization ... The mattress general is not at all interested.
    General is just delusional! Populist damn ...
    1. CAT BAIYUN
      CAT BAIYUN 2 December 2020 12: 14
      +14
      Maybe he's delusional. But if the NATO members are impatient, they will score on all the articles of the NATO charter and will accept the highlanders into their "friendly" embrace.
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 2 December 2020 12: 20
        +6
        Quote: CAT BAYUN
        Maybe he's delusional. But if the NATO members are impatient, they will score on all the articles of the NATO charter and will accept the highlanders into their "friendly" embrace.

        Does NATO not have the Song and Dance Ensemble and Chorus on its balance sheet? belay
        But seriously, what will NATO give and what can it give Georgia? 08.08.08 - I think it clearly showed how the potential of the Georgian army, unfortunately, not everything was "smooth" with Us, conclusions were drawn and the Army compared to that period - in a completely different Quality. hi
        1. Paul Siebert
          Paul Siebert 2 December 2020 13: 25
          +9
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Quote: CAT BAYUN
          Maybe he's delusional. But if the NATO members are impatient, they will score on all the articles of the NATO charter and will accept the highlanders into their "friendly" embrace.

          Does NATO not have the Song and Dance Ensemble and Chorus on its balance sheet? belay
          But seriously, what will NATO give and what can it give Georgia? 08.08.08 - I think it clearly showed how the potential of the Georgian army, unfortunately, not everything was "smooth" with Us, conclusions were drawn and the Army compared to that period - in a completely different Quality. hi

          Apparently not ...
          But we have magnificent poems by Frolov-Krymsky that the patience of the Russian bear is not unlimited:

          Lovely overseas neighbors,
          Well-fed, imposing, like the gods,
          Do not wake up a Russian bear.
          Let him peacefully sleep in his den.

          Do not interfere with reign and reign,
          Eat and drink as long as the heart beats.
          You can not imagine,
          Than for you all this will turn around!

          You have repeatedly kicked him,
          They humiliated, dusted,
          On the birch Russian was crucified,
          They burned fire and stoked in the pool.

          And when confidence in victory
          I drove you to a sweet tremor,
          Ryur the uterine Russian bear
          I heard you suddenly in the hallway.

          Why do not you sit at home, brothers?
          And pulls, having arrived on a smell,
          The generous Russian earth
          Take and take away from the toed!

          How old is the sly little thought
          Your are overflowing with newspapers,
          Like, "what right do we have
          One sixth of the planet !? "

          We came here by God's will,
          Honor their own did not mess.
          And do not you judge our share!
          We did not steal our wealth.

          Our indestructible foundations -
          Sails, skids and horseshoes,
          Beringi, Khabarov, Dezhnev,
          Ermaki, Poyarkov, Zaikov.

          Ladies, gentlemen, signors, ladies,
          Behind the devil inadvertently,
          Do not tease the Russian bear:
          Your pampering will come out to you sideways.

          You deceive him a hundred times,
          In the tavern, clean up the thread,
          After all, you have any mercy - paid,
          Your gods are gold bars.

          Your credo - divide and conquer,
          Your truth is the truth of the Force.
          You used to sit over the flock,
          Woe to the disreputable grave.

          But Russian in everyone sees his brother,
          Not accepting stinginess and deceit.
          For him everything is more important - True,
          And all the more expensive - Justice.

          Because from the bottom of any hell,
          Where no one else can survive,
          Russian suddenly rises from the ashes,
          From the quagmire and road litter.

          Weather will burn the bloody battle,
          In a clean spring, he will wash his eyes,
          Before the icon reads the prayers ...
          And he will come to your house one night.

          All smelling of gunpowder and blood,
          Having lead around a weary look,
          He will be frozen above your head
          And in the eyes he will reproach you with reproach.

          And while you have not extinguished the light,
          He asks, having summed up the past:
          -Why did you come to Russia to me?
          Or do I owe you something?

          You will understand that the payoff has come.
          But there was nothing to pay, as it turned out.
          The Russian would have forgiven, perhaps, a brother.
          Only you are not his brother, but evil spirits.

          And the little soul, cowering in the flesh,
          Tying under the scowl of the guest,
          You cursed a thousand times
          The stupid idea of ​​Drang Nach Osten.

          Hungry for new territories
          For baseball, rugby or golf,
          Read a couple of stories
          About Napoleon and Adolf.

          Dull the heat of the front copper!
          Responsible for stupidity - have to!
          Do not wake up a Russian bear.
          Maybe, then it will do.
        2. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 2 December 2020 13: 32
          +6
          But seriously, what will NATO give and what can it give Georgia?

          This will give NATO territory for the potential deployment of supposedly missile defense systems, they will feel more at ease in the Black Sea (although it is doubtful - Russia will not just let it behave like that), and Georgia ... Well, maybe they will give money ... But only for infrastructure and then after you will still have to pay out of your own pocket like the Poles.
          And ... There is also a bonus for the highlanders ... From the RF Ministry of Defense. Mark with a bold red cross on the map of Georgia the point for sending a "gift" in the event of a grandiose kipesh.
          1. VORON538
            VORON538 2 December 2020 15: 26
            +4
            In addition to the cross, it would be necessary to deport to their historical homeland all those who settled in Moscow, and all of Russia.
            Let them trade in apricots and be called "thieves in law"!
            They want to be in nature, so let them blow collectively with the whole composition!
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 2 December 2020 12: 55
        +3
        Quote: Hunter 2
        NATO Charter - directly prohibiting admitting Countries with ...

        Quote: CAT BAYUN
        if the NATO members feel it, they will score on all articles of the NATO charter and.

        We are looking for dark examples of that in history - Latvia: considers Pytalovsky district its Abrene and from time to time splashes it out.
        Nothing changes - like a drawbar, where ...
        1. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 2 December 2020 13: 34
          +1
          like a drawbar, where ...

          Yes, yes, yes ... Now this very tongue will be thrust into Georgia, right up to the tonsils laughing
          1. Pete mitchell
            Pete mitchell 2 December 2020 14: 42
            +3
            Quote: CAT BAYUN
            stick this very tongue up to the tonsils laughing

            Do you know that they are accustomed to accusing the RI / Union / RF of imposing ..., with comrades bourgeois it is much more difficult and they do everything according to the Russian proverb: lay softly, sleep hard
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 2 December 2020 20: 09
              +1
              Everything is quite simple: a "new" president is approaching - a big "lover" of Russia and the Russians. Here are all the "friends" -Rusophobes and rushed with their "wonderful" (one more miraculous than the other) proposals, give them out in a race: maybe he will notice and appoint somewhere.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 2 December 2020 23: 16
        +2
        Quote: CAT BAYUN
        Maybe he's delusional. But if the NATO members are impatient, they will score on all the articles of the NATO charter and will accept the highlanders into their "friendly" embrace.

        Change NATO Charter for Georgia? Let this Hodges Purgen drink. This scenario may be opposed by the same Turkey, which does not need another mattress base at hand and for nothing, given that they wanted to stick another base in Greece. And the Turks have something to show for the Kurds. So it is unlikely that NATO members will come to a consensus.
    2. credo
      credo 2 December 2020 12: 22
      +3
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The general noted that the South Caucasus is of geostrategic importance. The joint exercises that Hodges spoke of should demonstrate to Russia that the US and NATO "care" about the region.

      It seems that he is not yet in senile marasmus, so this does not sound like delirium.
      Here, most likely, the question of constant psychological treatment of the aborigines and loyal sycophants from among them, who should convey to the local population another portion of good news that the "kind and generous" owner remembers and cares about them and will not give anyone offense, especially such an aggressive neighbor as Russia.
      While this scheme is working and grant-eaters are working, Georgia will be in the orbit of the United States and NATO, as well as other countries of a similar level.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 2 December 2020 12: 37
        +3
        Comparison of Georgia, which actually lost its territory (thanks to the insane, but honestly chosen Gamsakhudia) and the FRG, which never had the GDR in its composition, is of course nonsense.
        But this is not the biggest nonsense the States are capable of. Psaki knows for sure. laughing
      2. NDR-791
        NDR-791 2 December 2020 12: 40
        +1
        Georgia's territorial disagreements with its neighbors should not prevent it from joining the North Atlantic Alliance.
        LTD!!! Already with neighbors !!! Not with their territories, as it were, breakaway !!! Is this already progress, will independence be recognized soon? And so while the general acting was something in no hurry to throw such words. Otherwise, we, too, in this situation, contracts on the side can become.
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 2 December 2020 12: 45
        +4
        This is not nonsense, this is the normal state of the patient, you know which ward.
        And if 080808 "brave Georgians fled" from a weak, poorly armed, poorly controlled Russian army, then today the Zhorzhiks are facing excellent Russian Armed Forces, which have combat experience, and most importantly, they are sharpened to the fact that they are the best in the world, and therefore lulli ANYONE who wishes it will receive from them - because of the inescapable melancholy in the eyes of Stoltenberg, because he understands that ALL NATO forces assembled in Europe will finish off the greatest within 5 days, if there is some kind of mess, while NATO members categorically do not want to fight (especially not for their own territory !!), and how much desertion there will be ...
        And ANY weapon will not help them survive.
    3. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 2 December 2020 12: 52
      +2
      Apparently the NATO Charter is directly prohibiting the admission of Countries with unresolved territorial disputes and unsettled conflicts into the organization ...
      The NATO charter did not prevent them from accepting Estonia, which has claims to Russian territory. So the general is just probing the ground and Russia's reaction to such a statement. This NATO operation has a multi-step combination.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 2 December 2020 15: 32
        0
        To Russia, in general, someone always has territorial claims
        especially fast come to Russia to present
        And then they cry for such and like Kolisurengoy and "the Russian non-continuing anti-telikhentsy"negative
        Like, they misunderstood the foreigners, they gave them to death in the neck! wink
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 2 December 2020 13: 13
      +1
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Apparently the NATO Charter - directly prohibiting the admission of Countries with unresolved territorial disputes and unsettled conflicts into the organization ... The mattress general is not at all interested.

      Why not interested, just all the other way around. You can consider the version with the fact that the mattress general is just interested in the military conflict, where the Georgians will work out on the battlefield, their entry into NATO and for one Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary. It was not for nothing that they were called to the exercises, they are working out a set of measures to harmonize the troops.
    5. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 2 December 2020 13: 15
      +1
      Since when did the media begin to pay attention to the clients of ward No. 6? "ex" - this is a former senile, who in FIG nobody needs. Better to shout: "The Russians are coming!" and thrown out of the window. The media on such clients only raises the circulation, and ordinary people take all this nonsense at face value.
      "
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 2 December 2020 12: 08
    +2
    We need to immediately admit Georgia to NATO ..
    Otherwise, NATO will fall apart without it! recourse
    military exercises in which the armies of Ukraine, Georgia, Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary would participate
    And the Hungarians won't fight the Ukrainians? angry
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 2 December 2020 12: 55
      +2
      So far, there are no signs of a military conflict, but I do not think that the skakuasses admitted to NATO will spring their tails in front of the EU old-timers. They will swallow the splashes from the Hungarians calmly, especially since there is still some kind of memory of the Second World War, which characterizes the Hungarians in terms of looting the civilian population much more negatively than the SS.
    2. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 2 December 2020 13: 18
      +1
      Do you doubt it? And how!
  3. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 2 December 2020 12: 11
    +4
    We need to immediately admit Georgia to NATO

    Yes. Need. Accept urgently.
    You have gays in the army, there are transgender people. Only the singing highlanders were not enough. And you will be great ... laughing I don't know about the growth of combat effectiveness, but it will be funnier - that's for sure ...
    And until the purple star, territorial disputes in Georgia - they will come up with an excuse ... The paper will endure everything.
    And if in fact, they are laying around Russia around the perimeter. And this does not bode well.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 2 December 2020 12: 58
      0
      Yes, you don't have to expect anything bad from Zhorzhiks: all the time they will be busy confirming the high quality of their male gender
    2. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 2 December 2020 14: 20
      +1
      And sho this: let the mattress makers watch the Georgians on their knees in front of them perform "Dance with sabers" and sing "Suliko"! This is a proud people who are ready to go under the same blanket with them. Ugh!
  4. KCA
    KCA 2 December 2020 12: 19
    +2
    The general is delusional, what exception was made for the FRG? The Federal Republic of Germany and the German Democratic Republic were two different states with clear borders, no one claimed anything else
  5. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 2 December 2020 12: 23
    0
    Interestingly, this bin is aware that at the time the FRG entered NATO, Germany was a country with a COMPLETELY occupied territory, and after the unification of Germany, only the composition and number of the occupying troops changed?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 2 December 2020 13: 01
      0
      And what does Ben need NOW?
      He's a REDACTED general, and the American and Scandinauan retirees are all so belligerent!
  6. Alexfly
    Alexfly 2 December 2020 12: 24
    0
    Probably Uncle Sam wants to fight ... I hope he understands that it will not work on the sly, as in the banana republics ...
  7. Kuz
    Kuz 2 December 2020 12: 24
    +19
    We must return to Central America ...
  8. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 2 December 2020 12: 33
    0
    it's time to return to Latin America ... a channel to Nicaragua with China ... negotiations with Cuba and Venezuela on permanent basing ... and there are plenty of other countries where you can go ... play a long game with Brazil and Argentina (you can offer weapons that will definitely help to return and consolidate the Falklands) ... but you never know what counter projects can be implemented ... to go on the defensive ... but while the Anglo-Saxons are advancing ...
  9. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 2 December 2020 12: 37
    0
    Was he kicked out of the army because he lost his mind?
  10. Machnamh
    Machnamh 2 December 2020 12: 39
    0
    Some retired general was banging. That is, a pensioner. Everyone can compose in retirement. He still needs Georgia ... Mexico and El Salvador are not fed up to the tonsils of the most democratic? A penny broken price and Hodges and his statement.
  11. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 2 December 2020 12: 46
    0
    no one in NATU will accept them - they are in the status of suffering, ready for anything - it is more useful for them than as a member ..
  12. antivirus
    antivirus 2 December 2020 12: 52
    0
    that the South Caucasus is of geostrategic importance.

    -Yucatan is also strategic
  13. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 2 December 2020 13: 03
    0
    A favorite pastime of American generals called: "Lure the Russian bear by poking it into its den with a stick." True, such a game can go far and then it will not be good for everyone, neither the states themselves nor their satellites.
  14. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 2 December 2020 13: 22
    0
    The retired American general needs to be urgently admitted to a psychiatric clinic.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 December 2020 13: 25
    -1
    Retired goat drummer, how many other goats or goats are there in the world?
  16. Merry_Militarist
    Merry_Militarist 2 December 2020 13: 27
    -1
    For God's sake, let Georgia be admitted to NATO, someone has to do dirty household work, well, sing and dance, and entertain there. laughing
  17. HMR333
    HMR333 2 December 2020 16: 53
    0
    Maybe, but then they will have to recognize Obkhazia and South Ossetia, because otherwise the regulations do not allow! They won't do that.
  18. Kara
    Kara 2 December 2020 22: 42
    +17
    Retired American General

    After resignation, you can already splash saliva
  19. sanches-nk
    sanches-nk 3 December 2020 08: 11
    0
    Sooner or later, it will simply be necessary to inflict a crushing blow on the United States, this will be due to the very survival of the Russian state. All their actions are direct aggression against our country and turn a blind eye to it and say - Well, what are you ... this is not a real, not a hot conflict, this is not possible - this is not just stupidity, but treason. All their actions are systemic and aimed at weakening and destroying our state. It is quite possible to compare this with the medieval blockade, only the scale and possibilities are much more extensive and sad.
    Or, at least, putting them in the position of a step away from disaster will allow them to be squeezed out of our underbelly at least. I work with all contracts only when a threat to their existence looms in front of their noses or overhead.
    Therefore, all the talk about the fact that it is dangerous to take out weapons into space, in my opinion, is just nonsense! A positive decision on this issue has long been made in the USA. And their entire space program is now sharpened precisely for this, for this superheavy is being created, for the launch of armed platforms into space. By the way, about this, 5-6 years ago, understanding people spoke. Actually, Russia also took care of missiles of this class in order to keep up.
    After the given weapons are launched into space and if someone has a serious advantage both in the defense of their own territory and in striking the enemy's territory.
    For the United States, this is the simple solution to all problems. A combat platform hanging 300-500 km above the enemy's head will allow anyone to kneel. There will simply not be time to make a decision. Taking into account hypersonic speeds, the response time is reduced to 1 minute. And if the enemy does not have such systems over their heads, then they will shoot down all the missiles that have taken off in response over their own territory.
    Well, nuclear submarines can make some kind of a smut, but with serious missile defense cover from land, water and space, it is unlikely that something serious will break through there. everything is IMHO.