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Peacekeepers in Africa complained about Chinese armored personnel carriers VN-1

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Peacekeepers in Africa complained about Chinese armored personnel carriers VN-1

The UN peacekeeping mission, carrying out tasks in the Central African Republic (CAR), complained about the low technical reliability of the VN-1 armored personnel carriers manufactured in China.


Last year, Gabon purchased from China a batch of VN-1 armored personnel carriers in the amount of five units, which were subsequently transferred to the UN peacekeeping mission in the CAR. However, as it turned out, Chinese armored personnel carriers are experiencing constant engine problems. Now, in order to restore their combat effectiveness, an expensive and time-consuming process of replacing the power plants, which must be supplied from China, lies ahead.

The VN1 wheeled armored personnel carrier is produced by the Chinese corporation NORINCO and is an export version of the PLA ZBL2009 wheeled armored personnel carrier, which has been mass-produced since 09.

VN-1 is a modular armored vehicle with an 8x8 wheel arrangement. The armored personnel carrier is equipped with a Deutz BF6M1015C diesel engine with a capacity of 440 hp, manufactured in China under license. The armament can be changed, in the basic version the armored personnel carrier is equipped with a turret with a 30-mm automatic cannon, a coaxial 7,62-mm machine gun and an HJ-73 ATGM launcher.

Combat weight - 21 tons, crew - 3 people (driver, commander, gunner) + 7 troops. The body of the vehicle has bulletproof protection, the frontal armor protects against armor-piercing bullets of 12,7 mm caliber. There is a possibility of installing additional weapons. On the highway, VN1 develops a speed of up to 100 km / h (the cruising range is 800 km) and is able to force water obstacles afloat at a speed of up to 8 km / h.
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  1. Revolver
    Revolver 2 December 2020 09: 07
    +20
    Another example of the world famous highest No. negative Chinese quality. lol
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 2 December 2020 09: 17
      +17
      They haven't ridden Ukrainian Bucephals yet. )))
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 2 December 2020 10: 06
        +11
        They ride 600 km there. Moreover, they participate in battles with varying degrees of success. As on Bucephalus.



        So it is on the Ukrainian 80 and 3. In general, in Nigeria there is a carriage of everyone from Ukroboronprom. The same UAG-40s are very often found in photos, they are put on pickups, and on all sorts of armored personnel carriers, and in positions. They also seem to have bought up to 60 Shilok gun assemblies even under Fedorych. And folk fun, sawing them and putting them on pickups / gantrucks singly or in pairs.
        1. Cananecat
          Cananecat 2 December 2020 19: 46
          +3
          Oh thanks. Satisfied faces ... apparently do not fall apart ... but DShK "on the forehead" is sur ...
      2. Evil Booth
        Evil Booth 5 December 2020 09: 24
        0
        the fourth carrot has changed valves every 100 km for years. Jewish quality of design based on German engines.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 2 December 2020 09: 29
      +7
      Rather, the hot climate section is ignored wink ... Well, you can also fill in anything from the nearest market. wassat .
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 December 2020 09: 58
        +6
        Quote: donavi49
        Rather, the hot climate section is ignored. Well, you can also fill in anything from the nearest market.

        But THIS is relevant. China makes equipment for the price at which they buy it !!!
        However, you can drive ANY equipment, how to operate it, you know ...
        1. Kart
          Kart 3 December 2020 08: 43
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          China makes equipment at the price at which they buy it !!!
          However, you can drive ANY equipment, how to operate it, you know ...

          The main thing to remember here is when it comes to Russian technology.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 3 December 2020 09: 48
            +1
            Quote: Carte
            The main thing to remember here is when it comes to Russian technology.

            If you try, you can make the Kalash not shoot !!!
            When I thought that the sledgehammer was nothing and nothing !!! Showed, showed me how!
    3. Nasrat
      Nasrat 2 December 2020 09: 47
      +4
      The Gabonese shook Deutz BF6M1015C .... In general, the engine for construction equipment was conceived ... Deutz BF6M1015C engines are widely used in various equipment: wheeled and tracked excavators, loaders, drilling rigs, combines, compressors, diesel generators, etc. On the highway VN1 develops speed up to 100 km / h - hehe ... maybe that's the reason for the breakdown?
    4. Graz
      Graz 2 December 2020 09: 49
      +4
      As I understand it, they fell for the price, although in the mind for Africa it seems better to have bought an armored personnel carrier from South Africa. they know what is needed in this climate. and I don't think the price there is much higher than the Chinese one
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 2 December 2020 09: 10
    +19
    Maybe the service is club-handed? The engines are German, although they are produced under license. And the Chinese workers are by no means gouging. And then all the engines were brought to the need for replacement. Maybe they just didn't show the mechanics where the dipstick for controlling the oil level is, or didn't they explain that it sometimes requires replacement?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 2 December 2020 09: 30
      +9
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Maybe the service is club-handed?

      The Soviets withstood all kinds of mechanics, and African Americans, and Arabs, and Afghans, and whoever they were not supplied for promising to build socialism, on credit, which was later written off.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 2 December 2020 09: 43
        +12
        Quote: Nagan
        The Soviets withstood all kinds of mechanics,

        Yes, there are unique people who put the Soviets quickly and in the trash. But on the whole I agree. But do not forget that Soviet military equipment in general and engines in particular were made as simple to maintain as possible and resistant to a low level of technical literacy - this was equipment for a big war. It is unlikely that the same can be said about the Chinese "German". The engine is probably good, but it requires attention according to the regulations and terms, not forgiving indifference and rape.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 2 December 2020 09: 55
          +3
          German tanks with Maybach engines were often capable of crawling from the front line to the rear with a punctured crankcase without oil at all. Well, the truth is they did not skimp on molybdenum oil additives, which provided short-term lubrication when oil leaked.
        2. Alf
          Alf 2 December 2020 18: 16
          +6
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          Yes, there are unique people who put the Soviets quickly and in the trash. But on the whole I agree. But do not forget that Soviet military equipment in general and engines in particular were made as easy to maintain as possible and resistant to a low level of technical literacy - this was a technique for a big war


          I don't think anyone needs to tell anyone who Bob Denard is.
      2. donavi49
        donavi49 2 December 2020 09: 58
        -2
        In general, Soviet wheel-drivers in Africa do not live entirely from the word. Angola is one of the most saturated with armored personnel carriers - it has long been written off.


        Now rolls on Brazilians and Chinese


        If you open the current coverage, then there are APCs in:
        Sudan - and then fresh MB1 from Batka, about 30 cars in Yemen, some of them lost forever.


        Algeria is very well trained.


        In the rest of Africa, there are hardly a hundred BTR-60-70-80 of all types and modifications.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 2 December 2020 11: 01
          +7
          Quote: donavi49
          Angola is one of the most saturated with armored personnel carriers - it has long been written off.

          Don't know how much they left before writing off?
    2. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 2 December 2020 09: 59
      +9
      Good time, Victor. On account of the club-handedness of the Chinese workers, I disagree with you. There is such a wonderful mattress diesel engine Kamins. So these comrades finished it with their licensed assembly. That on Gazelles, that on Kamaz they work on the principle of a casino. and 300 kilometers, maybe 300. And no one does not undertake repairs (instead of liners there is a tape, rings constantly lie, at the expense of fuel equipment just one tear). In Chalny, new dandies were received from the customs site, so they even manage to tighten the clamps on the branch pipes obliquely.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 2 December 2020 10: 01
        +3
        Quote: zadorin1974
        . on account of the club-handedness of the Chinese workers, I do not agree with you

        So I disagree. Cite where you saw it.
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 2 December 2020 10: 09
          +2
          The quality of the assembly. The quality of the metals used. Have you noticed how long it takes Chinese cars to rot?
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 2 December 2020 10: 14
            +1
            A friend has had a Chinese SUV for three years already - he is quite satisfied, although not ideal, of course. Last year I gave my daughter Ogryzok, and I use a Chinese smartphone. In a practical sense, I don’t feel the difference - everything works as normal. Although I agree - sometimes you can get into a mess with Chinese, but now it is an increasingly rare occurrence.
    3. evgen1221
      evgen1221 2 December 2020 10: 29
      -1
      And also where and how many filters should be changed.
    4. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 3 December 2020 13: 02
      +1
      Probably. Deutz is a good engine. Not whimsical. If everything is according to the instructions, then it's hard to kill.
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 December 2020 09: 10
    +2
    And who in Africa is for the peacekeepers, does not have their own equipment?
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  4. Nazar
    Nazar 2 December 2020 09: 16
    +3
    I had to work with civilian equipment from China with engines manufactured under a German license - quite high-quality products. Most likely it's a gasket ... between the steering wheel and the seat. hi
  5. Doccor18
    Doccor18 2 December 2020 09: 19
    0
    What are they complaining about? The engine is something of the German company Deutz, which the American Caterpillar bought out 10 years ago. Let in the den of democracy write a claim that unreliable engines design ...
  6. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 2 December 2020 09: 37
    +5
    African horsemen, I think, can shatter absolutely any technique. Culture-cultures like that.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 2 December 2020 09: 40
      +4
      Only the old Toyota survives there for the future.
      1. faiver
        faiver 2 December 2020 10: 00
        +2
        Toyota old survives
        - unlikely, rather often change ...
  7. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 December 2020 09: 40
    0
    Again, they saved on alloying additives.
  8. Moore
    Moore 2 December 2020 09: 44
    +1
    It is not reported whether this is a warranty case, or whether it is a local handshake.
    1. Kart
      Kart 3 December 2020 08: 47
      -1
      Reported. They will change engines at a high price. That is, the case is not guaranteed.
  9. Sibguest
    Sibguest 2 December 2020 09: 53
    +1
    Let Chinese smartphones buy for peacekeepers (only good ones, such as Huawei, or Xiaomi) - this will not fight off African barmaley, but you can call ... relatives.
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 2 December 2020 10: 22
    +2
    Why complain about Chinese technology, buy German or French
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 2 December 2020 10: 31
      0
      That's right, you need to complain about your gouges, to the local sports lot.
  11. Gueuze Ulenspiegel
    Gueuze Ulenspiegel 2 December 2020 11: 14
    -1
    And I also remember that Argentina recently bought Chinese fighters .......
  12. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 2 December 2020 17: 36
    -2
    It's like with Hovers H3
    2006 - math rewind at the forum.
    2007 - checkmate.
    2008 - fi da fu.
    2009 - bububu
    2010 - silence. (I bought, until 2020 oil and gasoline. I sold.)
    and then silence.
    They will roll it in and do it normally.
  13. iouris
    iouris 2 December 2020 17: 36
    0
    The law of elevation of needs, formulated by Karl Marx, is absolute. Keep this in mind. This can be seen even in the example of Gabon. That is why growth of 1-2% per year may not be enough to stabilize.
  14. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 3 December 2020 11: 08
    +1
    It seems that the hot African guys just "rocked" the engines. These engines are not bad.
    I bought Gabon, poyuzali, their deputy at the maintenance decided that the engines did not have long to live, they decided to transfer them to the UN mission. There are probably the same guys (African) only in blue helmets.

    It was necessary to support a local, African manufacturer. wink
    Why doesn't Gabon buy from Ghana an armored personnel carrier developed by a local "Tony Stark" named Asapho Cristo?
    Large, comfortable, with air conditioning and leather seats:


    Adapted to the African mentality.
  15. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 3 December 2020 13: 37
    0
    Expensively cute, cheaply rotten
  16. Pal Palych_2
    Pal Palych_2 4 December 2020 01: 12
    0
    The warranty slipped, however! Buy new!