Tehran announced the identification of the organizer of the assassination of an Iranian nuclear scientist

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Tehran announced the identification of the organizer of the assassination of an Iranian nuclear scientist

Iran has managed to identify the organizer of the assassination of nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh. Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council of Iran Ali Shamkhani stated this, Tasnim agency reported.

It was a complex operation, with the use of electronic equipment, there was no one on the spot (the assassination attempt - approx.), But there are leads. At the same time, we know who planned it, we know his past.

- Shamkhani declared.



According to him, the Israeli "Mossad", as well as the "Organization of the Mujahideen of the Iranian People", which is banned in the country, played a role in the assassination attempt.

Meanwhile, the former head of the Nativ secret service, Yakov Kedmi, said that in the past Israel had already tried to eliminate the Iranian scientist, but the operation was canceled at the last moment.

Former adviser to the Minister of Internal Security of Israel, the former Israeli consul in Moscow, Alex Veksler, said on the air of the NSN that the assassination of Fakhrizadeh would greatly delay the development of the Iranian nuclear program, since many studies in this area were "tied" to it. At the same time, in his opinion, Tehran does not have an effective answer to the murder, "whether it is the Israeli Mossad or someone else."

Recall that an attempt was made on Mohsen Fakhrizadeh on November 27 in Tehran province. As a result of his injuries, he died in hospital.
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  1. +18
    30 November 2020 15: 16
    Tehran announced the identification of the organizer of the assassination of an Iranian nuclear scientist

    Even if this is 100% true, there is still a serious problem. A person important to the country is killed in the suburbs of the capital. Not in Syria, not in Libya, but in the suburbs of Tehran ... There is something to think about ...
    1. +20
      30 November 2020 15: 21
      Quote: Doccor18
      There is something to think about ...

      It seems to me that the ardor of some who are smoother than others will cool down, only a tough answer.
      1. -3
        30 November 2020 22: 33
        Quote: neri73-r
        It seems to me that the ardor of some who are smoother than others will cool down, only a tough answer.

        What do you mean by words - a tough answer?
        1. +2
          1 December 2020 09: 47
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: neri73-r
          It seems to me that the ardor of some who are smoother than others will cool down, only a tough answer.

          What do you mean by words - a tough answer?

          From the condemnation of these actions by such countries as Russia and China, up to similar actions on the territory of the country that organized this terrorist act!
      2. +4
        30 November 2020 23: 25
        Quote: neri73-r
        It seems to me that the ardor of some who are smoother than others will cool down, only a tough answer.

        The fact of the matter is that just such a response from Iran is now expected - they have put together a coalition, pulled up the AUG, transferred aviation, held meetings with a coordination agreement just the day before ...
        And Iran is not ready for such a war.
        Moreover, to the war, in which he will make the first move (they do not consider the murder of a scientist to be such a move).
        That is the dilemma of the Iranian leadership - to answer and get a war, or to treat revenge as a dish and serve it cold.
        Iran today has practically no modern air force, no highly effective anti-ship missile systems, insufficiently strengthened air defense ... And the arms embargo has just ended ... It takes several years to purchase and master the purchased weapons.
        And allies are needed.
        It is unlikely that China is ready to become such an ally for Iran as the USSR was for Vietnam.
        ... So ... they will speak decisively, but act ... carefully.
        Otherwise, Iran simply will not.
        1. +1
          1 December 2020 14: 47
          In short, the Persians will have to grind their teeth for several years, intensively preparing for war.
          1. 0
            1 December 2020 15: 16
            Exactly . And regularly inserting the US hairpins in Iraq, Saudi Arabia in Yemen (and from it), Israel from Syria and Lebanon ...
            It's just that, starting next year, Iran should start rapidly re-equipping its armed forces (the embargo has lost its force), and every year it becomes stronger. Therefore, the moment for the attack by Israel was chosen correctly. The task of Iran is not to allow itself to be provoked and to do its own thing. If the war does not happen this and next year, then in 5 years no one in the region will even dare to think about such a thing.
            1. -1
              1 December 2020 16: 49
              Quote: bayard
              Exactly . And regularly inserting the US hairpins in Iraq, Saudi Arabia in Yemen (and from it), Israel from Syria and Lebanon ...
              It's just that, starting next year, Iran should start rapidly re-equipping its armed forces (the embargo has lost its force), and every year it becomes stronger. Therefore, the moment for the attack by Israel was chosen correctly. The task of Iran is not to allow itself to be provoked and to do its own thing. If the war does not happen this and next year, then in 5 years no one in the region will even dare to think about such a thing.

              And at whose expense is the banquet?
              1. 0
                1 December 2020 17: 35
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                And at whose expense is the banquet?

                Supposedly exclusively for Persian. Yes
                A "kind sponsor" from China is unlikely to be generous and unselfish.
                And Russia can only be a supplier FOR MONEY.
                Ka-pi-ta-lizm. Yes
                1. 0
                  1 December 2020 18: 22
                  Quote: bayard
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  And at whose expense is the banquet?

                  Supposedly exclusively for Persian. Yes
                  A "kind sponsor" from China is unlikely to be generous and unselfish.
                  And Russia can only be a supplier FOR MONEY.
                  Ka-pi-ta-lizm. Yes

                  However, in modern realities it is ....
                  1. 0
                    1 December 2020 19: 02
                    Iran has oil, gas, gold - this is in case of blocking transactions. Oil is a fairly liquid commodity and is not far from India.
                    In addition, I think that they were preparing for the lifting of the embargo ahead of time and they have the money to buy weapons.
    2. +8
      30 November 2020 16: 24
      And he was driving with personal security and an escort car in an armored car.
      Some of theirs probably passed.
      1. 0
        1 December 2020 08: 02
        I think there are still problems with the organization of the protection of such persons and secrecy. This is already the fifth physicist and, it is clear that there will be a sixth ...
    3. +25
      30 November 2020 17: 05
      Quote: Doccor18
      A person important to the country is killed in the suburbs of the capital. Not in Syria, not in Libya, but in the suburbs of Tehran ... There is something to think about ...

      And you can also compare the howl of the "free world" because of those who have not been poisoned by a newcomer with his today's reaction to the life of a person taken from an unwanted country. Blacks and homosexuals (from countries of the "free world", of course) deserve "equality", and citizens of certain countries can completely forget about their rights (including the right to life itself). Perfect, light world.
      1. -14
        30 November 2020 20: 31
        That's it. Can Iran change its methodology, and give Israel the right to life, and deal with the problems of its people, instead of exposing the luminaries of its science under attack. For what!? For the delusional idea of ​​destroying a country that does not have any claims to Iran. Neither material nor territorial. For some reason, no one is considering this option for solving the problem? How! Most of them have afterburner sofas: bomb, destroy, throw into the sea! For the sake of the delusional idea to destroy the country, the people, exposing the entire Middle East under attack. Communist obstinacy rules!
        Where???
        1. -3
          30 November 2020 21: 45
          It seems to me that if you turn a thread of an already narrow-minded cartoon character upside down and shake it well, then the stuffing of his head will come to an "order" similar to the "order" that reigns in your head now.
        2. +4
          30 November 2020 22: 38
          Quote: Danila46
          Can Iran change the training manual, and give Israel the right to life,

          Is Iran Killing Israelis? Occupies his land? Launching missile and bomb strikes on Israeli research centers? What is Iran doing that "takes away the right to life"?
          Please give examples of such activities of Iran.
          1. 0
            1 December 2020 11: 48
            you have at least a stake on your head ...
            The main goal of the Ayatolas is the destruction of the city of Israel. They shout about this at every opportunity. Israel believes them. Yes. They shout about the destruction of the "Zionist entity", and not as a people. But about this, at one time, Yasser Arafat spoke very eloquently (to sit on a stake until the end of centuries): We will destroy Israel, and the Jews will give the opportunity to return to their countries of origin! If there is someone to leave ...
            In Iran, military strategists are far from sitting on sofas, and understand that they cannot wage war with Israel from their territory. Not technically not in terms of logistics. The only way is to get as close to the Israeli border as possible. And Syria is a natural springboard here. Which is what they are trying to do. Do you think Israel should look at this calmly? Iran has declared war on Israel. Let not officially, but it is a fact. And in war, how ...
            Or the YaB variant. Here for sure. And let all the adjoining, beloved Palestinians, Syrians, Egyptians be martyrs. And we will sacrifice Khmeimim. What can you not sacrifice for the sake of a holy cause !? Destruction of the "Zionist entity".
            1. 0
              1 December 2020 12: 00
              what is the problem?
            2. 0
              1 December 2020 14: 58
              But tell me, my dear man, why did Israel not please the Ayatollahs? Perhaps there are good reasons for this? Well, there is no such long-term hatred without serious reasons. After all, he didn’t please them, huh?
              1. -1
                1 December 2020 20: 25
                I don’t know. Under the Shah, Iran was the only Muslim country with which Israel had diplomatic relations. But fanatics came to power there, and everything turned upside down.
                For these fanatics, there is one demand for Israel - die. And talk to kam here?
                This is what I am asking you now. Nice man ...
                1. 0
                  2 December 2020 01: 49
                  For these fanatics, there is one demand for Israel - die.

                  They have no such requirement for Christian countries. If only they did not climb into Iran, did not impose anything and did not interfere with life. And for some reason there is to Israel.
                  And talk to kam here?

                  Did the Jews try to talk to someone there? Or they immediately started bombing, blowing up, killing everyone who could potentially create problems for them in the long term. Like militant feminists-pickers who call for the universal extermination of men on the basis that each of them can theoretically become a rapist.
                  1. 0
                    2 December 2020 10: 24
                    again. Until 1979, relations between Israel and Iran were more than friendly. This relationship was even better than the relationship between Israel and Russia today. Namely, joint strategic objects were built such as an oil pipeline, a naval shipyard and joint design of a fighter. Israeli exports to Iran exceeded $ 100. Moreover, Iran, with the help of Israel, began its peaceful atomic program! Yes Yes...
                    During the Yom Kippur War, the Shah donated 25 phantoms as military aid to Israel. In short, there was LOVE ...
                    But a stubborn fanatic and obscurantist came to power, and love grew into hatred.
            3. +1
              1 December 2020 19: 12
              Quote: Danila46
              you have at least a stake on your head ...

              Writing correctly - TESHI (ax)
              Quote: Danila46

              The main goal of the Ayatolas is the destruction of the city of Israel. They shout about this at every opportunity. Israel believes them. Yes.

              Ayatollah - President of Iran? Premier? The rooster crowed, - Do you think that thanks to this the sun rose? Take my word for it - not because.
              Therefore, the crowing of the Ayatollah in itself does not mean anything. The dog barks, the caravan moves on. But if Israel reacts inadequately to this barking, then there is a completely logical explanation for this response - Israel is afraid of the economic strengthening of Iran.
              Competitor, swing him there !!! This is the first thing. The second is to receive huge financial assistance for free from daddy (USA).
              So, you will settle down with the allegedly Iranian (Syrian, Lebanese, etc.) threat. Do not tell the honest people.
              1. 0
                1 December 2020 20: 39
                funny you, right. And what is Iran's rival to Israel? Were partners with the Shah!
                About American "help", generally a blizzard! It’s not help here, but business. Here you have already explained a thousand and one times that firstly, 3.8 lard per year, this is only 10% of the budget of the Israeli Defense Ministry. Don't be for this money, Israel will survive it. And second: according to the agreement, Israel must / can spend this money in the Amer. VPK. and at a higher price than NATO. Crappy deal!
                Because this actually hinders the development of the Israeli military-industrial complex. And here, it is the United States that is afraid of Israel's competition in military products and technologies. The project "LAVI" was buried for this very reason ... But 5 have already flown! experienced fighters. And they did not fly so badly. The Chinese will tell you ...
                1. 0
                  1 December 2020 21: 13
                  Quote: Danila46
                  funny you, right

                  Are you talking about yourself? And the truth is - it's funny, you don't even know how to read, and if you read it, you didn't understand anything.
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Israel is afraid of the economic strengthening of Iran.
                  Those. if this happens, then Iran will become Israel's competitor in the BV!
                  Quote: Danila46
                  About American "help", generally a blizzard!

                  Yes Yes Yes. If not for this "blizzard", then Israel would not have seen Fu-35s
                  1. 0
                    1 December 2020 21: 36
                    no. funny is you. You are chirping about crowing here. No cluck to yourself: "die!"
                    This is called a threat. Under the court case in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ...
                    So where, in what economic area is Iran competing with Israel in the BV ??? No. Well, just interesting.
                    And once again about "help". If not for this "help", Israel would have its own fu-35th or su-57th or izya-100th, but its own. And so, you have to spend money on fu ... and support amerskoy economy.
                    1. 0
                      2 December 2020 01: 29
                      Quote: Danila46
                      This is called a threat. Under the court case in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ...

                      Yeah, threat.
                      Look, there is an INTENTION (to commit a crime), there is an ATTEMPT (to commit a crime. He shot to kill, but missed), and there is a DONE (a crime).
                      So, IRAN has (possibly, but not necessarily) INTENTION, in response to this INTENTION of Iran (and perhaps there is no intention, but there is just a BLUFF) Israel COMMITS A CRIME !!!
                      As they say - feel the difference.
                      Quote: Danila46
                      So where, in what economic area is Iran a competitor to Israel

                      Do you really not understand after reading the simplest text?
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                      Israel is afraid of the economic strengthening of Iran.
                      Those. if this happens, then Iran will become Israel's competitor in the BV!

                      Once again, for the most "smart" I single out the words - IF Israel leaves Iran alone, after a while Iran MAY BECOME a competitor to Israel in the BV. Got it? No? Then I cannot help you with anything.
                      Go in peace.
                      Quote: Danila46

                      And once again about "help". If not for this "help", Israel would have its own fu-35th or su-57th or izya-100th, but its own. And so, you have to

                      If only mushrooms had grown in their mouths, then the forest would not have walked.
                      And if not for the freebie, then not only the SU-57 and IZYA-100, but also the Fu-35 would not exist. tongue
                      1. -2
                        2 December 2020 10: 38
                        Do you really consider Iran's intention to destroy Israel as a bluff, or is it convenient for you to think so. Israel's history shows that such threats always escalate into war. In 1973 Israel also viewed such threats as bluffs. No longer.
                        "COMING TO KILL YOU, KILL YOU FIRST ..." (V.Z)
                      2. -2
                        2 December 2020 10: 45
                        About an economic competitor to Israel in the BV, I don’t understand. In what economic area? What economic zones of influence of Israel in the BW (and there are such in general ???) Iran will take away from Israel?
                      3. -1
                        2 December 2020 11: 29
                        Quote: Danila46
                        I don’t understand about the economic competitor to Israel in the BV.

                        I'm sorry, but I'm not a doctor. So I can’t help.
                      4. 0
                        2 December 2020 12: 45
                        so I don't have a meelaphone to guess your crazy thoughts ...
                      5. -1
                        2 December 2020 11: 27
                        Quote: Danila46
                        Do you really consider Iran's intention to destroy Israel as a bluff, or is it convenient for you to think so.

                        Repeat the word halva at least a thousand times, but it will not make your mouth sweet.
                        If for 40 years Iran has been saying (or maybe not, and all these are your ideas) that it will destroy Israel, but has not done anything for this, then it becomes clear that all this is a BLUFF. How else?
                      6. 0
                        2 December 2020 12: 22
                        He's trying to do that. Look at atomic weapons at an accelerated pace ... and that no matter how it is, an existential threat to Israel. If you are threatened with death over and over again, I advise you to take it seriously.
                      7. -1
                        2 December 2020 14: 41
                        Quote: bobwings
                        He's trying to do that. Look at atomic weapons at an accelerated pace ... and that no matter how it is, an existential threat to Israel. If you are threatened with death over and over again, I advise you to take it seriously.

                        Does Iran have more enemies than Israel? Are the states definitely not his enemies? Having such an enemy as the United States, and not having allies from among the powerful of this world, it is very useful to have a nuclear bomb in your bosom. Eunwoo's presence recently helped a lot: Trump made some noise, growled, and merged on the sly.
                        I think that the Persians are preparing nuclear weapons so that the Americans are not borzels, and not against Israel. There is too much honor for him, especially since they will not have enough objective prerequisites for enmity.
                      8. 0
                        2 December 2020 14: 49
                        Quote: bobwings
                        He's trying to do that. Atomic weapons are creating at an accelerated pace ... and that no matter how it is, an existential threat

                        Yes, yes, if a neighbor sharpens a knife, it means that he wants to slaughter you, not a pig. And so for 40 years. The neighbor has killed 40 piglets already, and you are all trembling - as if not you. wassat
                      9. -2
                        2 December 2020 11: 26
                        Israel has created its own tank, air defense / missile defense, unmanned aircraft without a freebie, and sends its satellites into space. And I would create raisins-100. But you stay in your opinion. You have every right to ...
        3. +1
          1 December 2020 01: 02
          Which has no claims against Iran ...
          ----------------------
          Which country has no claims to Iran? Almost every week, there are reports of Israeli missile strikes against Iranian forces in Syria. It is you who need to correct your messages with the manual, not Iran. Well, at least a little to be friends with reality.
    4. +9
      30 November 2020 18: 38
      Quote: Doccor18
      anyway there is a serious problem on the face. A person important to the country is killed in the suburbs of the capital

      The fact that someone is being killed is of course important, but the fact that someone is doing this, and with impunity, is more important. The most interesting thing is that everyone knows perfectly well who and why, but the shabby-eyed democratic "international community" and the rest of "progressive humanity" are like water in their mouths. Which, however, is not at all surprising. Double standarts. This is not the "great" Navalny (horseradish from the hillock, besides, after the most terrible poison in the world, feeling great), through which so many tears and shit are poured out that it will be enough for a hundred years, but "some sort of" Iranian scientist ...
    5. +1
      1 December 2020 00: 33
      I want to remind you that this is not the first assassination of a major Iranian figure. And these events can make a big mess. And I just can't understand if there is a connection between this murder and the fact that Biden in the United States declared himself the winner. As far as I understand, the Trump administration prefers to act in other ways and it was the hint of a return of the Democrats that could provoke the development of events.
  2. +20
    30 November 2020 15: 17
    At the same time, in his opinion, Tehran does not have an effective answer to the murder, "whether it be the Israeli Mossad or someone else."
    Well, why, now it is possible to start "cleaning up" all sorts of "mujahideen of the Iranian people" inside the country.
    1. +9
      30 November 2020 15: 21
      Quote: svp67
      At the same time, in his opinion, Tehran does not have an effective answer to the murder, "whether it be the Israeli Mossad or someone else."
      Well, why, now it is possible to start "cleaning up" all sorts of "mujahideen of the Iranian people" inside the country.

      Yes. Better late than never.
      1. +2
        30 November 2020 15: 31
        Teana, on which the scientist rode, turned out to be armored.
        Why he got out of it and half under fire - I can't imagine.
        Did they not explain to him how to behave in the event of an attack?
        1. +1
          30 November 2020 15: 46
          Teana, on which the scientist rode, turned out to be armored.
          Why he got out of it and half under fire - I can't imagine.
          Did they not explain to him how to behave in the event of an attack?

          He mistook the hit of a bullet for a minor accident and went out to see
          1. +4
            30 November 2020 16: 41
            He mistook the hit of a bullet for a minor accident and went out to see

            It's strange and incomprehensible ...
            There was to be a person next to him, one of whose tasks was to prevent dangerous independent actions of the protected subject.
            For the life of the most guarded.
            Incompetence? Relaxation?
        2. -1
          30 November 2020 16: 36
          Quote: Alex777
          Teana, on which the scientist rode, turned out to be armored.
          Why he got out of it and half under fire - I can't imagine.
          Did they not explain to him how to behave in the event of an attack?

          But he did not go out, there is footage from the place of execution, he is sitting in the car.
          1. 0
            30 November 2020 16: 56
            A colleague to whom I replied claims that he was leaving.
            And in another article here on VO it is written:
            The Iranian special services through the media announced information that the machine gun had a remote control and was installed in the back of a pickup truck on the side of the road. At the same time, the car's armor protected Fakhrizade. But he allegedly decided to get out of the car after the first shots because he "did not understand what happened." The driver of the second car tried to close the scientist with his car, but at that moment an explosion thundered. Atomic scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh was taken to a hospital with numerous wounds, where he died a short time later.
        3. -5
          1 December 2020 04: 52
          Quote: Alex777
          Teana, on which the scientist rode, turned out to be armored.
          Why he got out of it and half under fire - I can't imagine.
          Did they not explain to him how to behave in the event of an attack?

          When on the street, on the way to the store, they cut out your whole family, I hope you will also be outraged why they did not stay at home, it is SO safer there.
    2. -10
      30 November 2020 15: 34
      Quote: svp67
      Well, why, now it is possible to start "cleaning up" all sorts of "mujahideen of the Iranian people" inside the country.

      Otherwise they were not cleaned. It's just that under any dictatorship in the country there are a lot of people who see their struggle against the regime only with weapons in their hands. Look at the rebel movement in LA or Africa. Everywhere the regimes were extremely tough and everywhere there was armed resistance. Even in Chile, where the screws were tightened harder than in Iran and there were armed opponents of the regime.
      1. +30
        30 November 2020 15: 49
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        and there were armed opponents of the regime.

        They acted against representatives of power structures, and not against the scientific organizers of science. The nuclear scientist is the goal for the Mossad, because it was he who, with his developments and activities to create "Islamic nuclear weapons", threatened the national. security of the Jewish state.
        And then, the handwriting is purely Jewish.
        1. +25
          30 November 2020 16: 05
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          It's just that under any dictatorship in the country there are a lot ...

          There are a lot of people in the world who consider themselves "chosen by God."
          Previously, Nazi Germans considered themselves better than others.
          Now the Jews and Anglo-Saxons decided to kill others because they decided to do so.
          No difference.
        2. -10
          30 November 2020 16: 11
          Quote: BoA KAA

          They acted against representatives of power structures, and not against the scientific organizers of science. The nuclear scientist is the goal for the Mossad, because it was he who, with his developments and activities to create "Islamic nuclear weapons", threatened the national. security of the Jewish state.
          And then, the handwriting is purely Jewish.

          Actually, he is a brigadier general of the IRGC. But I don't mean priority, but performers. There are a lot of people in Iran who hate the Ayatol regime.
          1. -3
            1 December 2020 04: 56
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Actually, he is a brigadier general of the IRGC. But I don't mean priority, but performers. There are a lot of people in Iran who hate the Ayatol regime.

            We are pretty sure that the Israeli media wrote that he simply committed suicide.
            1. 0
              1 December 2020 10: 02
              We are pretty sure that the Israeli media wrote that he simply committed suicide.
              laughing laughing laughing
        3. -7
          30 November 2020 16: 21
          Blow up a car nearby, then shoot? Not Jewish. I do not deny the participation of the Mossad in this, NG Jewish operatives work differently. Or they just shoot somewhere in the entrance, or they just blow up - with their own car, phone, hotel room, etc.
          1. +11
            30 November 2020 16: 27
            Blow up a car nearby, then shoot? Not Jewish. I do not deny the participation of the Mossad in this, NG Jewish operatives work differently. Or they just shoot somewhere in the entrance, or they just blow up - with their own car, phone, hotel room, etc.

            And who told you that everything was so? There are many versions on the net, right up to a remotely controlled turret in one of the cars.
            1. +3
              30 November 2020 16: 52
              Yes, I read it in the article)). I have no other sources of information request
        4. +3
          30 November 2020 16: 27
          He is an honorary professor at the University of Tehran. He is not a scientist, but an organizer
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          1. +25
            30 November 2020 17: 49
            Quote: atalef
            this is not a scientist botanist - an absolutely legitimate target

            Whatever you say, but in fact it is a terrorist act. And why are you better than ISIS fighters then?
            1. -12
              30 November 2020 17: 51
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Whatever you say, but in fact it is a terrorist act.

              yes call it what you want.
              For us, Hezbollah and Hamas terrorists in their pure form are partners for you.
              Do you get my point?
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              And why are you better than ISIS fighters then?

              Read the previous post and ask yourself.
              1. +12
                30 November 2020 17: 57
                Quote: atalef
                absolutely legitimate aim

                Who gave you, a Jew, the right to kill?
                How are you different from the German Nazis?
                1. -14
                  30 November 2020 17: 58
                  Quote: Temples
                  Who gave you, a Jew, the right to kill?

                  the right is not given, the right is taken.

                  Quote: Temples
                  How are you different from the German Nazis?

                  the same as you.
                  1. +9
                    30 November 2020 18: 29
                    Well then, Iran has a free hand in delivering a missile strike against Israel in a year!
                    1. +6
                      30 November 2020 19: 31
                      Quote: hydroy
                      Well then, Iran has a free hand in delivering a missile strike against Israel in a year!

                      Though untied, but short, Israel will not be reached. But they are quite capable of blowing up a Jewish cultural center in a neutral country, and in character.
                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Теракт_в_Буэнос-Айресе_(1994)
                  2. +9
                    30 November 2020 20: 00
                    Quote: atalef
                    the right is not given, the right is taken.

                    Atalef - a sane idea!
                    The Nazis did the same: they took, and then they took more, and more. We started with the Jews, then the Gypsies, then the Slavs. For the time being, they got away with it. If they continued, it is not known what they could reach.
                    I had a better opinion of you!
                    But for the Nazis it is known how such a "pumping" ended.
                    But really, one "general" was smarter than the whole Mossad? You didn't keep up with him?
                    1. +2
                      1 December 2020 01: 35

                      +7
                      Quote: atalef
                      the right is not given, the right is taken.

                      Atalef - a sane idea!
                      The Nazis did the same: they took, and then they took more, and more. We started with the Jews, then the Gypsies, then the Slavs. For the time being, they got away with it. If they continued, it is not known what they could reach.
                      I had a better opinion of you!
                      But for the Nazis it is known how such a "pumping" ended.
                      But really, one "general" was smarter than the whole Mossad? You didn't keep up with him?
                      Extreme frostbite on the site, this "Atalef". angry
                  3. +2
                    30 November 2020 21: 53
                    remember these words when Iran gives you something solid ...
                    1. +2
                      1 December 2020 01: 31

                      Dart (Vadim)
                      Yesterday, 21: 53
                      NEW

                      +1
                      remember these words when Iran gives you something solid ...
                      It "atalef (alexander)" will be filled with snot and yell: What are we for ?!
                  4. +3
                    1 December 2020 01: 10
                    ... the rights are taken ...
                    -------------------------
                    So after all they still need to be carried away, not to overstrain ... laughing .... and this can be a problem. The world is changing.
                    1. +2
                      1 December 2020 01: 29
                      Vladimir247 (Vladimir)
                      Today, 01: 10
                      NEW

                      +1
                      ... the rights are taken ...
                      -------------------------
                      So after all, they still need to be carried away, not to overstrain ... laughing .... but with this there may be problems. The world is changing.
                      it, this self-confident
                      atalef (alexander)
                      thinks to sit on a horse forever. This does not happen in Nature - either the horse dies, or the rider will be sentenced. wink
                  5. +1
                    1 December 2020 01: 26

                    atalef (alexander)
                    Yesterday, 17: 58
                    NEW

                    -10
                    Quote: Temples
                    Who gave you, a Jew, the right to kill?

                    the right is not given, the right is taken.
                    have you taken on a lot? look don't overstrain angry and do not cry later: but for us!
                  6. +1
                    1 December 2020 10: 09
                    the right is not given, the right is taken.
                2. +2
                  30 November 2020 22: 48
                  Quote: Temples
                  How are you different from the German Nazis?

                  Nothing. Zionism and Nazism are twin brothers.
                  1. -3
                    30 November 2020 23: 59
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Nazism - twin brothers.

                    in general it is called - national socialism.
                    about the twins - brothers.
                    1. +1
                      1 December 2020 08: 19
                      Quote: atalef
                      in general it is called - national socialism.

                      So what? Ah-ah-ah, I understood - National Socialism is not a twin, it is the younger brother of Zionism.
                  2. 0
                    7 December 2020 00: 54
                    Branches of capitalism.
              2. 0
                1 December 2020 10: 07
                For us, Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorists in their purest form
                Ishil and other rubbish believes that Jews have no right to life, and the IRGC and Hezbollah fight them without compromise to death. Maybe you think again who are terrorists in their purest form?
                1. 0
                  2 December 2020 13: 05
                  We do not care, and those bandits are terrorists. They beat each other, the flag in their hands. They will threaten us, get us in the teeth over and over again. The concept of an enemy of my enemy, my friend, does not work in the Middle East.
          2. +11
            30 November 2020 18: 28
            well then Iran can also use its Hezbollah for "legitimate purposes"
            1. 0
              1 December 2020 08: 41
              Quote: hydroy
              well then Iran can also use its Hezbollah for "legitimate purposes"

              Of course, it may seem that someone or something in this limits him.
          3. 0
            30 November 2020 20: 28
            - absolutely legitimate target

            war will be when you think about spring and flowers
            each about his
      2. +7
        30 November 2020 15: 59
        Is there a dictatorship in France and Germany? You made my evening!
        1. +4
          30 November 2020 17: 14
          Quote: Horon
          Is there a dictatorship in France and Germany? You made my evening!

          And what a dictatorship in Britain ... and you shouldn't forget about Spain. smile
          1. +1
            30 November 2020 18: 37
            Yes, I forgot to mention them. laughing
      3. 0
        30 November 2020 16: 36
        Otherwise they were not cleaned. It's just that under any dictatorship in the country there are a lot of people who see their struggle against the regime only with weapons in their hands.

        +1, which is why Hezbollah and others are fighting arms in hand against the dictatorship of Zionism.
    3. 0
      30 November 2020 16: 34
      Quote: svp67
      Well, why, now it is possible to start "cleaning up" all sorts of "mujahideen of the Iranian people" inside the country.

      And what prevented you from defending before?
      Is an organization banned in Iran?
    4. +2
      30 November 2020 22: 42
      Quote: svp67
      Well, why, now it is possible to start "cleaning up" all sorts of "mujahideen of the Iranian people" inside the country.

      Yes Yes Yes. Walking down the street, lo and behold, a man with a sign on his chest is coming towards you - I am "a Mujahid of the Iranian people." Grab him quickly and into the jail.
      1. 0
        1 December 2020 10: 13
        man with a sign on his chest
        The tablets are not needed, the killed will be automatically enlisted in the ranks of the enemies of the Jewish people, posthumously.
  3. -14
    30 November 2020 15: 41
    One of the factors leading to the defeat of Germany was the overwhelming superiority of the allies in manpower. Iran could take advantage of this advantage (80 million vs 8 million), against which any technical superiority is powerless.























    1. +4
      30 November 2020 16: 03
      Quote: Seeker
      Iran could take advantage of this advantage (80 million vs 8 million), against which any technical superiority is powerless.

      That's right.
      From Tehran to Haifa, less than a day's drive in a wheelbarrow. On foot, however, will be longer.

      80 million Israel will simply be trampled. It will be 4000 people per sq. km. "against which any technical superiority is powerless"! wassat
      1. 0
        30 November 2020 16: 57
        From Tehran to Haifa, less than a day's drive in a wheelbarrow. On foot, however, will take longer. ©
        On foot - 17 days. I was surprised: Google on the phone seriously began to conduct a path through the streets of Tehran, and did not look further.
        1. 0
          30 November 2020 21: 46
          Quote: paco.soto
          On foot - 17 days.

          To be fair, it should be noted that this is not 17 days, but 17 days. Nearly. hi
          1. 0
            30 November 2020 22: 55
            I do not argue with you. My comment was funny because of the "discovery" that Google is starting to serve my absurd requests for relocation (maybe he will write it down in Basmachi)) because we have here, where you won't even go to even have coffee, Google sends an offer to evaluate the place of visit to the phone))
            1. +1
              1 December 2020 00: 15
              Quote: paco.soto
              because we have here, where you won't even go to drink coffee. Google sends an offer to evaluate the place of visit on the phone))

              This is not only for you, but also for us. I'll tell you a more interesting thing. These suggestions are very intrusive. Moreover, if you answered once, Google will contact you constantly. So, I discovered an interesting phenomenon. Let's say you went to a pharmacy, and above it there is a fun place - a "massage parlor", you will be asked to rate it. And there will be several appeals.
              If you even stop somewhere on the street for a minute, Google will think that you have visited something at this address.
              I was suddenly asked to rate a lingerie store. It turned out that this place really once was such a shop, but now there is something else. By the way, it's not so easy to get away with it. The "I was not there" button exists but is not always available. In a word, these gadgets are quite stupid, but sometimes they just get on the nerves.
              1. 0
                1 December 2020 00: 37
                This is not only for you, but also for us. ©
                With a smile: a nightmare !, and the "hand of the West" reached out to Russia - why don't patriots sound the alarm about this!))
                At the level of Western intelligence services, this is control, like some kind of futuristic action movies that we watch, but don't believe))
                1. 0
                  1 December 2020 04: 24
                  This is not the control of Western intelligence services ..)) This is the search engine algorithm and the trickiness of your phone, which, regardless of your desire or pressing the buttons, knows perfectly well where you are. )) Because you are full of working Wi-Fi points and neighboring phones to which your Bluetooth, your Wi-Fi, and other devices you use ..)) And then the search engines dump you pop-up ads for pads and massage services. - it's just that your neighbor was looking for herself, but the search engine in your phone "remembered" ....))
      2. +1
        30 November 2020 19: 42
        Quote: A. Privalov
        80 million Israel will simply be trampled. It will be 4000 people per sq. km. "against which any technical superiority is powerless"!

        Don't you think that as soon as the march of these 80000000 begins, they will be covered in Syria or finally Iraq with something that Israel does not officially have, and Iran will not, even though they jump out of their pants to get it? Technical superiority is still worth something.
        1. -2
          1 December 2020 01: 15
          They will cover ...
          -----------------
          Can't wait to play nuclear war for kids from Israel? The hands are itching right, right?
    2. 0
      30 November 2020 16: 40
      Quote: Seeker
      One of the factors leading to the defeat of Germany was the overwhelming superiority of the allies in manpower. Iran could take advantage of this advantage (80 million vs 8 million), against which any technical superiority is powerless.

      Would you like to walk 2000 km with fur?
  4. +11
    30 November 2020 15: 41
    How could a scientist prevent the Mujahideen? How will this affect Iran's nuclear program? No way ... she, how to put it ... not quite Iranian ...
    Sincerely
    1. +2
      30 November 2020 15: 54
      The questions are correct, the answers are not needed, the questions themselves determine the search vector for the organizers of the murder, there are few answers, and most likely there is only one. Scientists of those countries that use such methods, almost automatically become targets for retaliatory actions, and there are a lot of such scientists to not attach to everyone, a platoon of guards, and in addition equipped with the latest technology.
  5. +4
    30 November 2020 15: 43
    what
    Iran could learn from the experience of the Russian (Soviet era) - "sharashkin offices".
    And valuable scientists would be more whole; and "programs" would develop faster ... Yes
    1. -9
      30 November 2020 16: 09
      You would have asked the opinion of the scientists themselves on this score, otherwise you will again wonder how they sold their native zindan for jeans and Coca-Cola.
      1. +9
        30 November 2020 17: 27
        You would be interested in the opinion of the scientists themselves on this matter
        The choice is simple either to work for the good of the country in the office or to be killed by stoned terrorists from the Masada or IDF sect lol
        1. -3
          30 November 2020 19: 23
          I even offhand see at least the options "to dump into a decent country", "to convert to the study of fruit flies" and "to go to the desert to graze donkeys", so the choice you proposed is very similar to the razvodilovo one.
          1. +1
            1 December 2020 10: 17
            I even offhand see at least the options "to dump in a decent country", "to convert to the study of fruit flies" and "to go to the desert to graze donkeys"
            You are a strange person, to be fainthearted, to leave the Motherland when she asks you for help, to hide ... however!
  6. +10
    30 November 2020 15: 45
    Iran has managed to identify the organizer of the assassination of nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh.


    We need to work proactively, this is a very serious special puncture. services of Iran ...
  7. +2
    30 November 2020 15: 46
    The following passions have already appeared on the network:
    The team of liquidators consisted of 12 people, according to the Iranian special services, these people underwent special military training outside Iran; another 50 people provided logistical support for the operation; the group of liquidators used a Hyundai Santa Fe jeep, a Nissan pickup truck (mined) and four motorcycles; electricity in the area was cut off half an hour before the active phase of the operation; Fakhrizade's motorcade consisted of three cars (all armored), the scientist himself was driving the third car; the liquidators missed the first security car and opened fire on the second and third cars, shortly thereafter a mined Nissan pickup ran into the second car of the motorcade and exploded; 12 liquidators opened fire on the first and third vehicles of the motorcade; the leader of the liquidators' group pulled the wounded scientist out of the car and fired a control shot; the liquidators left the place of the operation ...

    These liquidators, apparently, were complete suckers. They could not even depersonalize the weapon!
    Iranian site Press TV cites a statement from an anonymous "informed source" that a weapon with the logo and specifications of the Israeli manufacturer was found at the scene of the murder of nuclear physicist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh.

    In short, the quality of spreading cranberries improves day by day.
    1. +4
      30 November 2020 16: 58
      Quote: A. Privalov
      Fakhrizada found a weapon with a logo and manufacturer's specifications from Israel.

      And next to the weapon, the hand that directed this weapon, they merged so much that they did not want to part.

      Now they are looking for a one-armed man and trying on a hand.
    2. 0
      1 December 2020 08: 21
      The Persians continue to escalate. The story acquires new "details", one more fantastic than the other:
      The Arab-speaking Iranian TV channel Al-Alam, citing an anonymous "informed source", stated that there was evidence of Israel's ("Zionist occupation formation") involvement in the assassination of nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh.

      According to the version of this "source", Fakhrizade was eliminated with the help of Israeli weapons, guided by a space satellite.
      wassat
  8. +6
    30 November 2020 15: 51
    Mossad and Tsakhal are terrorists!
    1. +5
      30 November 2020 16: 24
      Israeli banks are robbers!
      1. +6
        30 November 2020 16: 43
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Israeli banks are robbers!

        Mas ahnasa (income tax service) - .kozli
        1. +2
          30 November 2020 16: 57
          Arye Deri is innocent! Police state! am
          1. +4
            30 November 2020 17: 37
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Arye Deri is innocent! Police state! am

            land - kibbutzim.
            factories - histadrut
            world - chabadu
            kahane - hai.
            1. +8
              30 November 2020 18: 05
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Arye Deri is innocent! Police state! am

              land - kibbutzim.
              factories - histadrut
              world - chabadu
              kahane - hai.

              You can't pull without Trotsky laughing
              1. 0
                30 November 2020 18: 09
                Quote: Doliva63
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Arye Deri is innocent! Police state! am

                land - kibbutzim.
                factories - histadrut
                world - chabadu
                kahane - hai.

                You can't pull without Trotsky laughing

                kahane - hai.
                and not only him laughing tongue laughing
                1. -2
                  30 November 2020 19: 46
                  Isn't that baptized Karl Marl? ))
        2. 0
          30 November 2020 22: 06
          Do you have your own service for each type of tax? Or is there just one tax? smile
          1. -2
            30 November 2020 23: 56
            Quote: faiver
            Do you have your own service for each type of tax? Or is there just one tax? smile

            your own and you better not know how much taxes we pay. crying
          2. 0
            1 December 2020 00: 26
            Quote: faiver
            Do you have your own service for each type of tax? Or is there just one tax? smile

            The main tax is income tax. It is deducted directly from wages at the same time as health tax and social security tax. These are all different departments. There are also a bunch of different taxes, and each one levies a separate department: city tax, value added tax, etc., etc.
    2. 0
      30 November 2020 16: 42
      Quote: Threaded Screw
      Mossad and Tsakhal are terrorists!

      Left-hand thread wink
  9. +7
    30 November 2020 15: 59
    Now the citizens of Israel will have a hike somewhere ...
    1. +10
      30 November 2020 16: 01
      Now the citizens of Israel will have a hike somewhere
      And it will begin, and we will follow ...
      1. -9
        30 November 2020 18: 00
        Quote: Threaded Screw
        Now the citizens of Israel will have a hike somewhere
        And it will begin, and we will follow ...

        your thread is in the wrong direction.
        1. -6
          30 November 2020 18: 30
          Quote: atalef
          your thread is in the wrong direction.

          It's hard to understand, from the incredible efforts in the wrong direction, it completely frustrated.
          1. +1
            30 November 2020 19: 18
            Resisted, however lol
            1. -1
              30 November 2020 20: 03
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Resisted, however lol

              It is not his fault, he got under the tightening of the nuts, and there they no longer look at their own thread or someone else's thread, the main thing is to execute the command good
              1. +1
                1 December 2020 10: 20
                Below is a skirting board or a kindergarten?
  10. +6
    30 November 2020 16: 00
    For all my rejection of such actions, one must understand Iran not just "does not recognize Israel" but openly calls for its destruction, threatens to attack it with its BRs in the event of US aggression, and so on ..
    Simply putting, for example, our country in the place of Israel in this situation - I understand that they would have acted the same way, and actually acted the same way - in the 20-30s of the XX century, when in Europe they openly killed / kidnapped various ROVS members.
    In fact, Iran, by its actions and recitals, itself brought its physicist (and not the first one) to the slaughter, because if you REALLY WANT to destroy some country (or, for example, the world bourgeoisie), then it is extremely stupid to yell about it at every corner long before you can do it.
    1. +4
      30 November 2020 16: 14
      Excuse me, how will this murder help Israel?
      Just for show ...
      Sincerely
      1. +3
        30 November 2020 16: 25
        In the same way, the liquidation of Bandera or Leon Trotsky, who had "worked out", helped us in due time.
        Some support for the image + some practical benefit + orders and medals "who should" from those who go further in the career. I personally didn’t stand there with a candle, and I didn’t see liquidators with long sidepicks and black hats, but the USA works a little differently, the Saudis have short hands and have enough problems of their own - who remains? Country with the letter I.
        1. +1
          30 November 2020 16: 35
          In the same way, the liquidation of Bandera or Leon Trotsky, who had "worked out", helped us in due time.

          Both were real actors. And this physicist? Sorry ... what is it for?
          Sincerely
          1. +5
            30 November 2020 17: 02
            One actor had already spent all the polymers and was hiding abroad, the second was writing books in Mexico for a year, moving further and further away from Soviet reality and not even possessing any hints of real supporters within the USSR.
            The physicist, on the other hand, was probably a kind of "face" of the project, or its coordinator - Israel is not the first time to blame scientists, the same J. Bull with his "super gun" was banged in Iraq. If you remove the project coordinator, there will be some stupor of the activity, or even its scale decreases completely, because charisma and approach are often decided. Suffice it to recall how Soviet cosmonautics changed after S.P. Korolev (of course, incomparable figures, but as an example of a change in approaches and personalities, it will do). Often, the "removal" of such an actor from stage 1 can turn the whole track of history in a different direction - for example, because of one person who got into a plane crash at the wrong time, Hitler's Germany buried the idea of ​​competent strategic aviation. And so on .
            Now we have no idea about the real state of Iran's nuclear weapons, perhaps this particular uncle was responsible for the modernization of centrifuges or the development of plutonium - they removed him and his closest colleague, who has different views on the timing and different charisma, will come out.
            In a word, it just doesn't happen like that ..
            1. +1
              30 November 2020 17: 15
              There is no one who has his own views. Methods for enriching uranium using its gaseous hexafluoride are described in any textbook ... Upgrade our centrifuges ??? Plutonium is produced in a "power" reactor. The Iranians bought it for this even under Yeltsin. Why do they need these centrifuges at all ... Fuel rods to do? All these photos and videos with centrifuges are for journalists ...
              Sincerely
              1. +3
                30 November 2020 18: 03
                Quote: nobody75
                Yes, there is no one who has his own views. Methods for enriching uranium using its gaseous hexafluoride are described in any textbook

                well, just any student on his knee will collect
                Quote: nobody75
                Why do they need these centrifuges at all

                centrifuges are different.
                read about generations.
                1. 0
                  30 November 2020 19: 54
                  well, just any student on his knee will collect

                  Excuse me, is it true that physics was replaced by drill training in Israeli schools?
                  Then it is clear why you kill scientists ...
                  Sincerely
                  1. 0
                    30 November 2020 20: 09
                    Quote: nobody75
                    well, just any student on his knee will collect

                    Excuse me, is it true that physics was replaced by drill training in Israeli schools?
                    Then it is clear why you kill scientists ...
                    Sincerely

                    That's right, that's why Israel has patented laser enrichment of Uranus since the 70s, and in the 90s - magnetic resonance laughing
                    1. 0
                      30 November 2020 20: 13
                      Please show me the "patented" pills of Dr. Wo Phu! Laser-baked from NMR!
                      Sincerely
                      1. 0
                        30 November 2020 20: 18
                        Well, you can also show the Australian method SILEX)).
                  2. +1
                    30 November 2020 20: 14
                    Quote: nobody75
                    Excuse me, is it true that physics was replaced by drill training in Israeli schools?

                    And it's true that some individuals are transplanted with calf brains, but then you can forgive.
                    1. +1
                      30 November 2020 20: 18
                      I forgive you, as an innocent victim of such an experiment ... The man was killed without trial or investigation, and you are happy ...
                      1. 0
                        30 November 2020 21: 00
                        Quote: nobody75
                        I forgive you, as an innocent victim of such an experiment ... The man was killed without trial or investigation, and you are happy ...

                        Is anyone happy? Do you think badly of us, dear
                      2. 0
                        1 December 2020 01: 24
                        ... is someone happy?
                        ----------
                        Are you grieving? recourse
                      3. -3
                        1 December 2020 01: 25
                        No, we don't care)).
                      4. The comment was deleted.
                      5. 0
                        30 November 2020 21: 46
                        Specifically, the murdered was convicted? Have you sentenced? And Iran is a loose concept. As far as I understand, you are a supporter of collective responsibility and punishment ... Apparently in Israeli schools, they also canceled history ... they don't talk about the Holocaust.
                        Sincerely
                      6. +3
                        30 November 2020 22: 30
                        Dear, with your permission, I will give you a short excursion into history.
                        In the second half of the 70s, the United States and ... Israel were behind the Iranian nuclear program, which developed carrier rockets for the Persians by order of Shah.
                        But in 1979, religious leaders came to power in Iran, declaring one of the goals of the Islamic revolution to destroy the Zionist entity in the Middle East. And at the same time, they called a nuclear bomb a weapon that does not correspond to the values ​​of Islam (during a small Jihad, the killing of the enemy's civilian population is prohibited, you cannot even cut a tree in an enemy country).
                        But then they were attacked by Iraq, which began to develop its vigorous loaf in the early 80s. The Persians did not learn how to eliminate the threat on their own, they had to turn to their longtime partner - Israel, and conduct a joint operation to destroy the Iraqi reactor (the Iranians distracted, the Jews beat). This did not stop the Ayatollahs, however, from sponsoring and equipping Lebanese Hezbollah.
                        In 91, the Americans easily defeated Iraq and liberated Kuwait. The Iranians, who have been fiddling with Saddam for about 10 years, got caught up and decided to create their own nuclear weapons as a guarantee of their own safety.
                        Israel did not like it, which fanatics want to destroy and rushed fellow
                        As you can see, there is no collective responsibility of the Iranian people here, and you would not be very sad if the NKVD between 1941-45 slapped Speer for example)).
                      7. +1
                        30 November 2020 22: 49
                        Between "if" and "slapped", as they say in Odessa, there are "two big differences." As you know, history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood. From 1941 to 45 the USSR was at war with Nazi Germany ... Is Israel at war with Iran?
                        And whether I was sad or not, I am too cynical to be happy or sad. The military-political analysis is somehow closer to me. Therefore, I do not like trying to put pressure on emotions.
                        As for the history of Iran - the Iraqi war - let me disagree with you. If Iran, which by the way won the war, would not have fiddled with for 10 years, then Kuwait would not have become the holder of an unbearable Iraqi debt (and Iraq fought on borrowed money at the suggestion of Rumsfeld). And the occupation of Kuwait, like the first Gulf War, would not have happened ...
                        Sincerely
                      8. -3
                        30 November 2020 23: 08
                        1) De facto - fighting
                        2) How did Iran win - with territorial losses? laughing Another thing is that he did not cede his oil regions to Iraq.
                        3) About Kuwait, dear, it is not clear. If Saddam was smart enough to attack Iran at a time of internal turmoil, then instead of the Persians, it was more logical to pull out on the rich Emirates.
                      9. +1
                        30 November 2020 23: 26
                        3) About Kuwait, dear, it is not clear. If Saddam was smart enough to attack Iran at a time of internal turmoil, then instead of the Persians, it was more logical to pull out on the rich Emirates.

                        It all started with the fact that the Americans knocked out Iraq to attack Iran. The very oil-bearing islands were the reason for the war ...
                        The war had to be financed and Rumsfeld offered Saddam to issue bonds. And the rich Kuwait bought them. After Iraq won Iran's "territorial losses" to save face, talks were held between Iraq and Kuwait on debt restructuring. Saddam refused them and demanded that they be written off, Kuwait refused. The American "ambassador" stated that the US would not be against a military solution of the issue by Iraq ... And away we go ...
                        Sincerely
                      10. 0
                        30 November 2020 23: 31
                        Not hit - Saddam asked for an opinion American ambassadorhow the US would view Iraq's return of its legitimate oil fields in Kuwait. To which she replied in the style of "do not care".
                      11. +1
                        30 November 2020 23: 33
                        This is what the Americans say now ... and the same about the test tube
                        Saddam was more interested in "trash papers" ...
                        Sincerely
                      12. -1
                        30 November 2020 23: 44
                        Tariq Aziz was just talking about this, the Americans did not spread about this conversation at all
                      13. -2
                        30 November 2020 23: 38
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Not hit - Saddam asked for an opinion American ambassadorhow the US would view Iraq's return of its legitimate oil fields in Kuwait. To which she replied in the style of "do not care".

                        It is more than doubtful that a professional diplomat would have spoken out like that in warning about the outbreak of war and the occupation of another country in such a key and hot region, and even without any consultations with his government. This cannot be a priori. Surely another urban legend. hi
                      14. +1
                        30 November 2020 23: 47
                        Oh, welcome! hi I think that all this was a small episode of a long eastern conversation, where the interlocutor was led to the correct answer, there was no talk about the occupation of the whole of Kuwait. Most likely, it was presented as a landing operation on the disputed islands. Although, I also agree with you - only this legend is Iraqi.
                      15. -3
                        30 November 2020 23: 51
                        These are the tales of Tarek, who, together with his patron, plunged his own country into disaster through his own stupidity and shortsightedness)
                      16. 0
                        30 November 2020 23: 55
                        It looks like by the way
                      17. 0
                        30 November 2020 23: 39
                        Regarding Iran's territorial losses:
                        In order to somehow smooth over his defeat, the President of Iraq ordered the capture of any settlement on the territory of Iran. In mid-May 1986, the 25th 2nd Army Corps crossed the Iranian border near the city of Mehran. This area was not of strategic importance, but a 5-strong garrison was located here. Pulling up two more divisions and artillery, the Iraqis broke the resistance of the Iranian garrison and took 400 prisoners. This minor operation, which in no way affected the general course of hostilities, was inflated in Baghdad to the scale of a great victory, which became a turning point in the war. But 40 thousand Iranian soldiers stood in positions in Fao, and not one of them was going to defend Mehran, behind which almost impassable mountains stretched into the interior of Iran. However, not all of the Iranian army was assembled at Fao. Soon the Iranians cut the communications of the Iraqi garrison in Mehran, and then defeated it. In this case, more than 500 Iraqi soldiers were killed, including Brigadier Hird Ali. Major General Adin Tawfid, who commanded the Mehran operation, was recalled to Baghdad and shot. Trying to protect Basra from constant enemy attacks, the Iraqi command has built its "Maginot Line". True, it was not made of concrete, but of water. During several years of operation, a 15-mile irrigation canal, located between the city and the Iranian border, was expanded and deepened to the size of a lake called Rybny. This reservoir stretches from the Khavizah swamps, which fed its waters, to the port of Khorramshahr. Nevertheless, water, albeit in very large quantities, could not stop the Iranian army. On December 24, 1986, a new operation began - Kerbala-9. Sixty thousand Iranian soldiers launched an offensive on a broad front from Abu al-Hasib, north of Basra, to the island of Umm al-Rassas, near Abadan. The Iranians crossed the Shatt al-Arab south of Lake Fish and wedged into the enemy's defenses. After 4 hours of fighting, the Iraqis were able to throw Iranian soldiers into the water, but it cost them 60 lives. However, the Iranian command was able to quickly recover from the defeat. Having regrouped its forces, on January 48, it launched Operation Kerbala-10. The troops crossed the Jasim River, which connects Fish Lake with Shatt al-Arab, and were 8 miles from Basra. In order to prevent the transfer of enemy troops from the north, on 5 January, within the framework of Operation Kerbala-6, Iranian troops attacked in the direction of Erbil, destroying 13 enemy soldiers and the headquarters of the 6th Army Corps. In the south, in the place of the main attack, the Iranians also successfully developed their offensive and by the beginning of February had come close to Basra. In March, the flooding of the Euphrates began, and the assault on Basra became impossible. However, Tehran did not set itself such a task, its main goal was to weaken the enemy as much as possible.

                        http://btvt.narod.ru/2/iraq_iran_war.htm
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                      19. 0
                        30 November 2020 22: 11
                        Quote: nobody75
                        I forgive you as an innocent victim of such an experiment ..

                        I do not have such problems and hallucinations as you do not.
                        In order not to get into such a position, do not write nonsense.
                        Quote: nobody75
                        A man was killed without trial or investigation,

                        I already wrote about this, but for you I will repeat it.
                        Buenos Aires bombing - Jewish community center bombing 85 people died
                        Women and children who came to the center to watch movies and play.
                        They weren't doing military research.
                        After years of investigation, the Argentine court concluded that the attack on the Jewish center is Iran. The Iranian regime is responsible for sending the assassins to Buenos Aires.

                        The bombing of a bus with Israeli tourists in the city of Burgas was carried out by a suicide bomber who had fake American documents and arrived from Iran The explosion killed eight people, 34 were injured of varying severity.
                        They did not develop nuclear missile heads.
                        They came to rest at the resort.

                        The Israeli Navy intercepted the cargo ship Frankop, which contained about 500 tons of weapons hidden among civilian cargo. 36 containers with weapons were shipped from Iran and were intended for the terrorist organization Hezbollah

                        This is the weapon that he developed and it should have been aimed at destroying the population of Israel.
                        Quote: nobody75
                        and you are happy ..

                        So that you order me to cry. Let those who wanted to direct his knowledge to the destruction of an entire people cry.
                        You've got another reason for mourning
                        Yesterday, November 29, a high-ranking officer of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was killed on the border between Syria and Iraq. His car was attacked by a drone from the direction of Iraq. A rocket fired from a drone hit a car with four people in it. All four were killed. The drone could have been an American coalition UAV that had previously launched air strikes against pro-Iranian elements in the area.
                        Speaking of mourning.
                        Here is the reaction of your compatriots to the accident of a training plane and pilots.

                        25 November 2020 10: 03
                        -8
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Major Itay Zayden (42) and Lance corporal Lihu Ben-Basa (19), instructor and cadet of the Air Force Flight School, died today (Tuesday) in a light plane crash
                        I WAS NOT WRITING ANYTHING, I HAVE SUPPLIED A MEMORY CANDLE, BUT THE VANDALS HAVE CROSSED OUT IT.
                      20. -2
                        30 November 2020 22: 31
                        You have already made me to blame for all your troubles ...
                        Enemies are everywhere!
                      21. +1
                        30 November 2020 22: 56
                        Quote: nobody75
                        You have already made me to blame for all your troubles ..

                        I did not write that YOU are the enemy.
                        And he wrote that you need to think before you write. Well, how do you manage with your troubles, we cope. And the one who digs a hole for us, from time to time gets there himself and for a long time.
                      22. -1
                        30 November 2020 23: 05
                        you need to think before you write

                        Otherwise, you will kill ... I understand ... Thank you
                      23. -2
                        1 December 2020 07: 36
                        Quote: nobody75
                        Otherwise, you will kill ... I understand ..

                        Yes, what stuck you will kill, you will kill, no, you will just look the way you look now.
                      24. +1
                        1 December 2020 09: 44
                        Terrorist attack in Buenos Aires; Bus explosion with Israeli tourists
                        If this scientist did it, then everything is correct, if it is not him, then these are songs and we are for sho. Iran following Your logic emphasize your logic of choosing legitimate targets.
                        on the border between Syria and Iraq, a high-ranking officer of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was killed.
                        Well, I hope, of course, you will not have a reason to talk about the innocent victims after this.
                      25. 0
                        1 December 2020 14: 15
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        If this scientist did it, then everything is correct,

                        This scientist, General Ksir, was developing explosives for the terrorist.
                        And you are comparing 100 civilians women and children with a learned general who did EVERYTHING to make it happen.
                        I NEVER the idea of ​​comparing the murdered children of BESLAN with the destroyed General Dudayev and other rags will not come to mind. And for you, the general who worked for the terrorists is a hero.
                      26. 0
                        1 December 2020 15: 04
                        This scientist, General Ksir, was developing explosives for the terrorist.
                        What are you talking about in more detail?
                        And you compare 100 civilians women and children to a scientist
                        I compare terror to terror.
                        with the destroyed General Dudayev and other rags.
                        Indeed, an example would not go to hell if the scientist was a citizen of Israel and was destroyed by the Mossad on the territory of Israel and was found guilty by the Israeli court one to one, but in fact there was a terrorist act against the citizens of a foreign state in his homeland and naturally there will be terror on this terror in reply. request
                      27. 0
                        1 December 2020 18: 34
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        What are you talking about in more detail?

                        Fakhrizada was subject to the requirements of the UN Security Council to freeze assets and a ban on entry to a number of countries due to prohibited activities to develop nuclear weapons.
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        I compare terror to terror.

                        To begin with, what is TERROR.
                        "Socially or politically motivated actions of a group of people that pose a threat to life and security PEACEFUL POPULATION, their health, causing significant material damage, as well as in order to spread fear and panic among civilian population. "
                        What I brought is TERROR, and elimination general, who was engaged in prohibited activities, despite the decision of the UN Security Council, and is not a PEACEFUL POPULATION
                        Quote: MoJloT
                        and so in fact there was a terrorist act against the citizens of a foreign state in his homeland and of course there will be terror in response to this terror.

                        We have already dealt with terror.
                        That Israel did it must be proven. All inferences are not proof.
                        If someone decides that this is Israel and carries out a terrorist attack (in the full sense of the word) he will AGGRESSOR with all the ensuing consequences.
                        Unlike you in Iran, this is understand if, in order to kill Soleimani, three days later, several rocket attacks were launched against a base in Iraq with ISRAEL, THIS WILL NOT PASS.
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            30 November 2020 18: 02
            Quote: nobody75
            And this physicist? Sorry ... what is it for?
            Sincerely

            physicist.?
            brigadier general of the IRGC. laughing
            just a theorist.
            1. +3
              30 November 2020 20: 00
              It's not good to laugh at someone else's death ...
              Sincerely
          3. +1
            30 November 2020 19: 50
            Quote: nobody75
            And this physicist? Sorry ... what is it for?

            At least for being a brigadier general of the IRGC, an organization recognized as terrorist in the civilized world. Simple peaceful physicists do not drive in corteges of three armored vehicles.
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              30 November 2020 19: 56
              As far as I understand, if you are promoted to brigadier general of the IRGC, then ...?
              Sincerely
              1. -1
                30 November 2020 20: 30
                Quote: nobody75
                As far as I understand, if you are promoted to brigadier general of the IRGC, then ...?
                Sincerely

                This impression, according to you, affects, like it's like a tenkoff credit card in the mailbox to find where you don't spit on Brigadier General Ksir you will get laughing
                1. +1
                  30 November 2020 20: 32
                  And the public joy of killing you is exactly the same as that of a free credit card ...
                  Sincerely
              2. 0
                30 November 2020 23: 49
                Quote: nobody75
                if you are promoted to brigadier general of the IRGC, then
                it's like smearing your forehead with brilliant green
            2. -1
              1 December 2020 01: 34
              In the civilized world ...
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              Smiled ... wassat Remind you how the "civilized world" in 1941, as part of almost all of Europe, went on a military campaign? And of course, bringing us freedom and democracy as a gift. He's so, this civilized world ... laughing
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                1 December 2020 02: 11
                Quote: Vladimir247
                He's so, this civilized world ...

                The civilized world in those years supplied the USSR with Airacobra and Hurricane aircraft, M4 and Churchill tanks, and a whole bunch of other things.
                1. +1
                  1 December 2020 09: 49
                  The civilized world in those years supplied the USSR with Airacobra and Hurricane aircraft, M4 and Churchill tanks, and a whole bunch of other things.
                  Half of the truth, because the same civilized world did not deprive the Third Reich, the USSR took only gold. Just business.
            3. +1
              1 December 2020 10: 27
              the civilized world is recognized as a terrorist
              It is you who recorded in the civilized lol ?
              Simple peaceful physicists do not drive in corteges of three armored vehicles.
              When there is a constant terrorist threat and the likelihood of an attempt on the part of stubborn sectarians, they drive, but this is not enough.
      2. -1
        30 November 2020 16: 45
        Quote: nobody75
        Excuse me, how will this murder help Israel?
        Just for show ...
        Sincerely

        And if there is a lot of ticks?
        wink
        1. 0
          30 November 2020 16: 56
          Excuse me, do you think you have eliminated a Key Figure? And I think that - "effective manager". Few people know real leaders by name and face ...
          Sincerely
          1. 0
            30 November 2020 17: 41
            Quote: nobody75
            Excuse me, do you think you have eliminated a Key Figure? And I think that - "effective manager"

            1. +1
              30 November 2020 19: 57
              You will decide there who you killed - the brigadier general or the Persian Einstein ...
              Sincerely
  11. +1
    30 November 2020 16: 06
    ... Tehran has no effective answer to the assassination, "whether it be the Israeli Mossad or anyone else."

    and the acceleration of uranium enrichment ...?
    it hardly depended on one person negative
    1. +1
      30 November 2020 16: 15
      and the acceleration of uranium enrichment ...?

      It seems that the Germans in Sukhum were doing this ...
      Sincerely
  12. +5
    30 November 2020 16: 32
    Iran has every right to respond similarly to the State of Israel, and this will be correct and fair hi
    1. -3
      30 November 2020 17: 43
      Quote: Graz
      Iran has every right to answer like to the state of Israel, and it will be right and fair hi

      1. -2
        30 November 2020 21: 40
        Let me remind you of a recent story ... About the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand in Sarajevo. Immediately after the murder, many threw their caps into the air. And one disabled person - a wheelchair user, by the name of Schweik, shouted "To Belgrade!" ... 4 years have passed, and everyone's joy has diminished ...
        A similar situation - isn't it?
        Sincerely
  13. -2
    30 November 2020 16: 54
    Quote: Dodikson
    Otherwise they were not cleaned. It's just that under any dictatorship in the country there are a lot of people who see their struggle against the regime only with weapons in their hands.

    +1, which is why Hezbollah and others are fighting arms in hand against the dictatorship of Zionism.
    I completely agree you support and fight side by side with the Ksir Hezbollah Islamic Jihad Hamas and other broads with arms side by side with the Russian army
  14. +1
    30 November 2020 17: 17
    Mujahideen of Iran against Iran's nuclear program? It's strange.
    1. +1
      30 November 2020 17: 17
      Or is someone working for MOSSAD?
    2. +1
      2 December 2020 15: 01
      Mujahideen against ...
      -----------
      That's it. Delirium of the purest water. Well ... if only the Mujahideen decided to commit suicide ... wassat
  15. -1
    30 November 2020 17: 19
    Even in ancient times, the Russian sage said - do not boast on going to the army, but boast on the way from the army. Precisely in this way, some were killed that aimed at one of the Iranians.
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      30 November 2020 17: 44
      Quote: zenion
      Even in ancient times, the Russian sage said - do not boast on going to the army, but boast on the way from the army.

      go fuck laughing
      have something to boast about laughing
      1. +6
        30 November 2020 18: 53
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: zenion
        Even in ancient times, the Russian sage said - do not boast on going to the army, but boast on the way from the army.

        go fuck laughing
        have something to boast about laughing

        How witty you are! You're catching up with Petrosyan!
        1. -1
          30 November 2020 20: 12
          For he who goes to shit, I am extremely hungry!
  16. +8
    30 November 2020 17: 23
    Quote: Temples
    There are a lot of people in the world who consider themselves "chosen by God."
    Previously, Nazi Germans considered themselves better than others.
    Now the Jews and Anglo-Saxons decided to kill others because they decided to do so.

    But after all this is not the first case of "shooting" Iranian specialists employed in the Iranian nuclear program! This method of countering the enemy has long been adopted by the Pins ... and the Mossad! Some time ago there was information that during the period of devastation and carelessness of the 90s, several of our leading employees of the national defense industry complex died in a strange way or unexpectedly passed away!
  17. +1
    30 November 2020 19: 23
    It was a complex operation, with the use of electronic equipment, there was no one on the spot (the assassination attempt - approx.), But there are leads. At the same time, we know who planned it, we know his past.
    - Shamkhani declared.
    According to him, the Israeli Mossad played its role in the assassination attempt.

    The murder of a scientist in his capital by the secret service of another state is the clearest example of state terrorism. The significant silence of the main fighter against international terrorism raises a question ... lol
  18. -4
    30 November 2020 19: 36
    not badly killed in another country another country and nothing to another country nothing to double UN standards inpotent of the Russian Federation it is necessary to strike at bases near the borders of the Russian Federation, otherwise it will be too late
  19. +4
    30 November 2020 22: 52
    Wow, there is a discussion of the murder of the general and the search for organizers, and at the same time an Iranian diplomat was sentenced in Belgium to 20 years for terrorism: for organizing (with the support of his state) a failed bomb explosion in Europe,
    Whom did the state of Iran want to kill? There was an attempt to destroy the Iranian opposition group!
    For the outside world, Iran stigmatizes the “murderers” from Israel, the United States, and inside the country there is a war going on, to kill a general of an elite unit, eyes and ears are needed inside this unit.
  20. -1
    1 December 2020 00: 41
    It seems to me that the murder could have been carried out by the Israelis, but the benefits for the Israeli government are not many, and there are a lot of hemorrhoids. But there is one country that pokes its nose everywhere, voiced ultimatums on the nuclear program several times, planned military operations against Iran and has one base bombed by Iranian missiles nearby. Here she certainly has nothing to do with it. No, it was definitely done by Israel, which runs the risk of getting a rain of missiles right away in its capital.
    But seriously, I think someone from the United States is behind this event and, perhaps, he used the support of the Mossad for this.
  21. +1
    1 December 2020 06: 42
    The Iranians need to act appropriately. Then it will cool their ardor. And then nichrome itself-complete chaos. Don't leave it unanswered
  22. 0
    1 December 2020 10: 06
    the assassination of Fakhrizadeh will greatly delay the development of the Iranian nuclear program, since many studies in this area were "tied" to it.

    How to say. Perhaps a place has been made for a promising young scientist who will significantly speed up the Iranian program.
  23. +1
    1 December 2020 10: 38
    Quote: bayard
    That's the dilemma of the Iranian leadership - to answer and get a war,

    This is a war of the special services, no one forbids Iran to respond in the same way. Even a little later ..
  24. 0
    2 December 2020 00: 17
    Yes, they worked just like in a Hollywood movie-weapon on d / y-
  25. 0
    5 December 2020 16: 31
    Israel must be recognized as a country of terrorists and international sanctions must be introduced. hi