Color Revolution is the best way to lose territory

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As you know, for everything in this world you have to either pay or pay. And often - both. The coups d'etat that have been shaking in the last couple of decades, mainly the so-called "post-Soviet space", and called "color revolutions", this applies to the full. And if such events are financed, as a rule, by external "players", then the entire severity of their consequences falls on the country that allowed another "Maidan".

The transition of such a state under external control, the strict subordination of its economy to the interests of foreign "partners", leading such to inevitable destruction ... Destruction of industry, science, education ... Complete demolition of the social sphere habitual from Soviet times. All these are the inevitable results of “revolutions”, governed from abroad and carried out under the most seemingly wonderful slogans, whatever they may be in their name and “color”. This is really, indeed, a reinforced concrete confirmation of the postulate of good intentions leading to the underworld ...



It is not surprising that the state that has survived the “color” coup almost invariably has to part with one or another part of its own territories. And that's just not worth trying to weave here the "imperial" or "aggressive" policy of Russia. This is not our country. The reason is so simple and obvious that it is impossible to deny it - the "revolutionaries" themselves literally "push" certain regions out of the country, doing everything to ensure that their inhabitants are ready to die, but not remain part of yesterday's "homeland", which has become unknown into what.

After all, "Maidans", whoever tries to assert what, is not a "protest of the majority". This, and always and everywhere, is precisely the process of imposing by an aggressive minority their (and for the most part - not even their own, but the "master's") will on the rest of the country's population. The minority is by its nature extremely intolerant of other people's opinions, of any views that do not coincide with their own. Having broken through to power, such an audience turns into tyrants, striving to tell everyone what language to speak, what to breathe and what to think about.

Moreover, in the absolute majority of cases, the "Maidan" element is mixed up with the most extreme nationalism, either bordering on Nazism, or not at all distinguishable from it. At the same time, the victorious "titular nation" does not consider it necessary in any case to reckon with the national and cultural needs of other peoples inhabiting the country. What is most paradoxical is that the same “revolutionary leaders” who shout loudest at the “Maidans” about the “right to national self-determination” and stigmatize the “Soviet occupation” immediately go berserk, if someone else at least hints at their intentions “ self-determination ”already within their country.

There are many concrete examples. Georgia finally "said goodbye" to Abkhazia and South Ossetia just after the "Rose Revolution" that brought Mikheil Saakashvili to power in 2003. Yes, there were conflicts before, blood was shed and battles were fought. However, if before August 2008 there were still some, even purely theoretical, possibilities of reconciliation between Tbilisi, Sukhum and Tskhinvali and at least a ghostly chance of their joining Georgia on the basis of autonomy rights, then after Saakashvili's attempt to return the "unrecognized republics" with the help of military force, nothing of the kind can be said.

The situation is exactly the same with Ukraine. Crimea somehow existed in its composition since 1991. Yes, the “Maidan” of 2004 made many on the peninsula think. But from the pack of thugs who seized power in Kiev in 2014, the inhabitants of the peninsula decided to leave immediately. And they did the right thing. Otherwise, they would have faced the fate of those who fully knew the cruelty of the Ukrainian "saviors" in the Donbass. This region also did not want to become a part of the neobander-Russophobic "state" generated by the "Euromaidan" and, faced with the war, in fact left Ukraine.

And no matter what is written in the Minsk Agreements, it is perfectly clear to everyone that neither the Donetsk nor the Luhansk republics will return to Ukraine in that disgusting and terrifying form in which it was brought by the “color revolution” and all the events that followed it. in no case. At least as long as at least one of their protectors is alive ...

The last example from this series, albeit of a slightly different kind, can be considered the defeat of Armenia in the recent war for Nagorno-Karabakh. Pay attention - while the country was ruled by more or less successful, but not "Maidan" leaders, the situation did not reach such large-scale armed clashes. But as soon as something happened in Yerevan that was utterly similar to the classic "color revolution" - and suddenly it turned out that all the "brilliant" prospects that the marketplace "leaders" drew at the rallies are just chatter and bluff. For real tests, especially for war, Armenia was absolutely not ready.

It would be very nice that each of those who are faced with calls to take part in the next "protests" - it does not matter, in Minsk, Moscow, Bishkek or somewhere else, would begin by asking himself the question: "With which part of your Homeland I am offered to say goodbye forever? " Perhaps then there would be fewer "Maidans" and attempts to arrange them. Although the authorities should not abuse this fact either: political and economic activity should be such that the people a priori do not have a craving for revolutionary upheavals. I would like to hope that the authorities are well aware of this and are not completely cut off from the life of ordinary citizens.
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  1. -2
    30 November 2020 08: 51
    Very correct conclusion of the author hi !
    What we actually saw on examples ... it's good that strangers.
    1. +12
      30 November 2020 08: 54
      1. Do not bring the situation to a revolution, even if it is in color or monochrome.
      2. Do not breed corruption and do not cling to the chair at any cost.
      3. In Russia, a revolution is impossible at the present time, the people are obedient and apolitical. As they say in personal affairs, "weak-willed".
      1. +10
        30 November 2020 09: 03
        Quote: Civil
        3. In Russia, a revolution is impossible at the present time, the people are obedient and apolitical. As they say in personal affairs, "weak-willed".

        Now the people are quickly becoming politicized.
        1. 0
          30 November 2020 09: 11
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: Civil
          3. In Russia, a revolution is impossible at the present time, the people are obedient and apolitical. As they say in personal affairs, "weak-willed".

          Now the people are quickly becoming politicized.

          Aggressively obedient majority, can chatter "in these Internet of yours" as much as they want, as it used to be in the kitchen, but in case of political changes like in 1991 and 1993, it will silently wait for the decision of its fate. Even the Bolshevik party was extremely small when it gained power.
          1. +17
            30 November 2020 10: 29
            Quote: Civil
            Even the Bolshevik party was extremely small when it gained power.

            But she took it!
            Quote: Civil
            Aggressively obedient majority, they can chat as much as they want "on these Internet of yours",

            So, it has not yet got hot.
            How did grandfather Lenin say? - "There is a revolutionary maturation of the masses." The process is objective. And so that there was no "Iskra" - the political field was asphalted. Only screwing on the lid of a steam boiler can lead to an explosion. The history of Russia knows a lot of examples
            1. -3
              30 November 2020 12: 00
              Color Revolution is the best way to lose territory

              In truth it is so! Moreover, it is in favor of those buyers from abroad who foster and support "colored" oppositionists in the localities from abroad.

              REFERENCE
              Celebrate - Nurse like a child; to lovingly grow, educate, not paying attention to financial costs.
              1. +5
                30 November 2020 12: 59
                Quote: Tatiana
                In truth it is so! Moreover, it is in favor of those buyers from abroad who foster and support "colored" oppositionists in the localities from abroad.

                And who fostered Yeltsin? And Gorbachev? So we are reaping the fruits of coups.
                1. -1
                  30 November 2020 13: 24
                  Quote: veritas
                  And who fostered Yeltsin? And Gorbachev? So we are reaping the fruits of coups.

                  Gorbachev is an ordinary American agent and hero of America.
                  And Yeltsin - there too, but in a sarcastic way!

                  Agent Gorbachev Evgeny Fyodorov Apr 4. 2013


                  Clinton laughs at Yeltsin
            2. +5
              30 November 2020 13: 18
              The authorities always and at all times miss the moment of the beginning, revolution, turmoil, riot as they like.
              The authorities, in principle, do not like bad news, and when the imperious shobla does not report bad news, or the reports are extremely cautious.
              If we take the Civil War at the beginning of the last century, the most precise definition was given by Denikin - Troubles.
              It was not the Bolsheviks who overthrew the Tsar, overthrew and betrayed him by those who had power and then the country fell into turmoil, everyone fought with everyone, but after that power was taken by those who could attract the people.
              There is only one strong, wealthy state with internal unity as a guarantee against any revolutionary riots.
              1. +10
                30 November 2020 13: 29
                Quote: saigon
                It was not the Bolsheviks who overthrew the Tsar, overthrew and betrayed him by those who had power and then the country fell into turmoil, everyone fought with everyone, but after that power was taken by those who could attract the people.

                That's right, the tsar was overthrown by the capitalist class, which through the nobles disintegrated the system, more precisely with the participation of the nobles. And the Bolsheviks picked up the power and built a new state.
                There is only one strong, wealthy state with internal unity as a guarantee against any revolutionary riots.

                Which is not possible without social justice.
            3. +24
              30 November 2020 22: 28
              Quote: Silvestr
              the political field was asphalted

              A soft, weak blade of grass breaks through the hard asphalt. It happens like this: at first, the seeds actively absorb water, swell and begin to germinate. A huge hydrostatic pressure arises in the cells of the seedlings, which allows them to overcome the thickness of the earth, and if necessary, the asphalt. wink
          2. +2
            30 November 2020 17: 31
            Quote: Civil
            Aggressively obedient majority
            The meme belongs to the pro-Western historian Yu.N. Afanasyev, who called so the participants of the 1st Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR, who booed Sakharov's proposals, the one who wanted to tear the country apart into a bunch of dwarf pseudo-states. Back in the ranks ...
            1. 0
              1 December 2020 08: 18
              Quote: sniperino
              Quote: Civil
              Aggressively obedient majority
              The meme belongs to the pro-Western historian Yu.N. Afanasyev, who called so the participants of the 1st Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR, who booed Sakharov's proposals, the one who wanted to tear the country apart into a bunch of dwarf pseudo-states. Back in the ranks ...

              But it turned out that way, the citizens of the USSR obediently kept silent in 1991 and 1993. The country fell apart. Just don't talk about the referendum, the boyars just asked for their opinion, but they decided as they wanted. They all swallowed in silence.
              1. 0
                1 December 2020 13: 25
                Quote: Civil
                But that's how it happened
                There was nothing aggressive there, most of the deputies were members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, opportunists, flappers, and there were almost no others (real violent), otherwise nothing at the top would have worked out. Afanasyev knew that Yakovlev would not surrender him, so he showed off.
        2. +3
          30 November 2020 12: 57
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: Civil
          3. In Russia, a revolution is impossible at the present time, the people are obedient and apolitical. As they say in personal affairs, "weak-willed".

          Now the people are quickly becoming politicized.

          The refrigerator starts to make you think.
        3. -1
          1 December 2020 09: 11
          Now the people are quickly politicizing

          To exclude the politicization of "fast / slow" in Russia, it is necessary to curb and not just curb, but to weed out the fifth column that is shaking the Russian statehood from within. There are many examples of such weeding in the history of Russia: the struggle of Ivan the Terrible with parochialism, boyars, Stalin's cleansing of the USSR from the fifth column before the war. This is the kind of clean-up that needs to be done now on the eve of the second arrival of Obamka-Biden to the White House, the upcoming wars along the perimeter of Russia and the activation of the fifth column before the parliamentary and presidential elections in Russia.
      2. +6
        30 November 2020 10: 25
        Quote: Civil
        In Russia, a revolution is impossible at the current time, the people are obedient and apolitical.

        It is necessary to add - "bye"
        1. -2
          30 November 2020 10: 53
          Quote: Silvestr
          "while"

          Sylvester, you all say goodbye ... but don't leave laughing
          But seriously, do you want the Maidan in Russia? Are you sure that in this case, the safety of you, your Family, friends and relatives will not be threatened? Or are you hoping to sit out quietly pushing slogans through the Internet? Well, if (hypothetically) your calls come true - and the new Power will be even more "unloved" by you - are you sure that you will not be thrown for one of your comments? I am sure they can easily. All those who replaced the Legal Power as a result of all kinds of Revolutions are always More Radical ... There are a lot of examples, people are killed for "words" (example of Oles Buzina), now - you can speak and write, Whatever you want!
          Or maybe forming a Civil Society is a more painless way? Personally, I live this way, go to the Elections, in case of disagreement with the actions of the authorities, I express My opinion in legal ways.
          1. +31
            30 November 2020 10: 58
            Quote: Hunter 2
            But seriously, do you want Maidan in Russia?

            you just don't read your opponents, you have already been answered
            Quote: Silvestr
            I do not propose a revolution, I propose to take a real look at life.


            Quote: Hunter 2
            Well, if (hypothetically) your calls come true - and the new Power will be even more “unloved” by you - are you sure that you will not be thrown for one of your comments?

            crushed water from scratch
            1. -11
              30 November 2020 11: 09
              Quote: Overlock

              you just don't read your opponents, you have already been answered
              Quote: Silvestr
              I do not propose a revolution, I propose to take a real look at life.


              Quote: Hunter 2
              Well, if (hypothetically) your calls come true - and the new Power will be even more “unloved” by you - are you sure that you will not be thrown for one of your comments?

              crushed water from scratch

              Comrade "sewing machine" judging by Nick ... decided to be a "lawyer"? belay Sylvester, in my opinion, can answer for himself. His opinion is interesting to me, yours is completely indifferent (well, for understanding).
              Above on the branch - the words you cited No. Or do you suggest reading all the “thousand” of Sylvester's comments before asking him a question?
              You push the water - full-time and freelance mourners. I live in peace and work a lot, my family is well off ... maybe you can try the recipe for a normal life too?
              1. +35
                30 November 2020 11: 45
                Quote: Hunter 2
                Comrade "sewing machine" judging by Nick ... decided to be a "lawyer"?

                no, you just push him, and below he answered your question. After all, the course of a person's further thought is interesting.
                Quote: Hunter 2
                Or do you suggest reading all the “thousand” comments of Sylvester before asking him a question?

                is it thousands? Eyes down and voila!
                Quote: Hunter 2
                I live quietly and work a lot, my family is well off ..

                Does no one work except you? Well done! And you don't feel like looking around? To the standard of living of people in the presence of the entire periodic table in the country, crazy reserves of oil and gas! Or is it alien to you?
            2. +9
              30 November 2020 12: 04
              Quote: Overlock
              crushed water from scratch

              Thank you colleague for supporting your pants laughing
          2. +6
            30 November 2020 11: 46
            Quote: Hunter 2
            But seriously, do you want Maidan in Russia?

            Maidan in Russia is not needed, but without losing territory, we are losing population. Almost half a million a year only officially, and only in the "hospital average". Against the background of the distribution of citizenship to just anyone. Maidans and revolutions with the loss of territory are bad, but when the population is not enough to hold this territory, what will happen?
          3. +6
            30 November 2020 12: 03
            Quote: Hunter 2
            Sylvester, you all say goodbye ... but don't leave

            This is when I said goodbye !?
            Quote: Hunter 2
            But seriously, do you want Maidan in Russia?

            No, like you, but ....
            Look at this mess of strength. How did the reign of Brezhnev end, do you want to remember?
            Quote: Hunter 2
            in case of disagreement with the actions of the authorities - I express my opinion, by legal means

            Well this is what? laughing
            I understand you, saying goodbye to the catch is like death for you. You take strangers for a little while, you give yours and forever
          4. +3
            30 November 2020 13: 02
            Quote: Hunter 2
            Or maybe forming a Civil Society is a more painless way? Personally, I live this way, go to the Elections, in case of disagreement with the actions of the authorities, I express My opinion in legal ways.

            Everyone lives like this, but the authorities are not particularly interested in your and my opinion.
          5. +2
            30 November 2020 20: 50
            But seriously, do you want Maidan in Russia?

            Maidan - no, socialist revolution - without a doubt.
    2. +12
      30 November 2020 09: 28
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Very correct conclusion of the author hi!
      What we actually saw on examples ... it's good that strangers.

      If only ...
      We had a classic color revolution just at 91. The whole set of technologies. And all the consequences.
      Now we have been swarming for 30 years, we cannot come to our senses.
      So this is the former USSR, a superpower.
      And then some kind of small country.
      1. +12
        30 November 2020 09: 32
        Quote: Carte
        Now we have been swarming for 30 years, we cannot come to our senses.

        And we will not come to our senses .. the followers and proteges of those who muddied the revolution are in power .. the process of decomposition is not over, it continues.
        1. 0
          30 November 2020 09: 44
          Are you proposing another revolution?
          The result will be strictly one - complete and final collapse.
          The time of the classical revolutions of the early 20th century has passed. Now these technologies have been worked out, calculated, tested, and have a strictly defined purpose.
          Whatever, for example, you personally and your like-minded people declare noble and just goals - as a result, everything will work strictly according to the scheme of destruction.
          Because this scheme was not invented by you, and it works, in contrast to the beautiful-hearted promises of social justice and new communism.
          These promises are just an attempt to play on the desire for that very complete social justice.

          The conclusion is simple - clench your teeth and work. Maybe it will work out, albeit not immediately.
          With revolutions it will not work for sure.
          1. +9
            30 November 2020 10: 06
            Quote: Carte
            Are you proposing another revolution?

            I don’t propose revolutions. I offer agitation and propaganda. The overwhelming majority of people should be interested in the development of socialism in our country, and for this people should not forget the teachings of Marx, Stalin, Lenin.
            Whatever, for example, you personally and your like-minded people declare noble and just goals - as a result, everything will work strictly according to the scheme of destruction.

            To destroy something, you need to build .. now everything is falling apart by itself .. gradually .. When it collapses completely, then the supporters of socialism should be ready to take power into their own hands.
            Because this scheme was not invented by you, and it works, in contrast to the beautiful-hearted promises of social justice and new communism.

            Works .. only this scheme works for destruction. And deeds stand behind the promises of the socialists. After all, it was the fairest state in the world. There was a state with a powerful army, science, education .. And there will be more.
            These promises are just an attempt to play on the desire of that very complete social

            Social justice is not a myth. This reality was still 30 years ago.
            The conclusion is simple - clench your teeth and work. Maybe it will work out, albeit not immediately.

            At least work hard .. but do not achieve the goals. Some plow two jobs, so what?
            It won't work, it's been 30 years now and you need to understand - it won't work ..
            1. Fat
              +1
              30 November 2020 11: 59
              When it collapses completely, then the supporters of socialism should be ready to take power into their own hands.

              "Milk is a product of a cow, not of socialism, and one must truly confuse socialism with the image of the country where the milky rivers flow, so as not to understand that the country can rise to the highest stage of development temporarily without significantly raising the material situation of the masses. ". K. Radek 1932. These lines were written when a terrible famine reigned in the country.
              No matter how the socialists spin propaganda:
              And deeds stand behind the promises of the socialists. After all, it was the fairest state in the world. There was a state with a powerful army, science, education .. And there will be more.

              Nothing will change. The goal of power is power. The authorities do not give a damn about the masses of the people, no matter what socio-economic formation appears ...
              At least work hard .. but do not achieve the goals. Some plow two jobs, so what?
              It won't work, it's been 30 years now and you need to understand - it won't work ..

              You are seriously mistaken. Not 30 years have passed - thousands ...
          2. +3
            30 November 2020 10: 06
            Nothing happens when everything belongs to a handful of bourgeois, no matter how you work. And with a revolution it is possible to change for the better.
          3. +7
            30 November 2020 10: 16
            Quote: Carte
            Are you proposing another revolution? The result will be strictly the same - complete and final collapse.
            Without a change of power, there will be a slow and gradual final collapse. They are stupidly destroying us. In terms of the rate of decline, we have overtaken prosperous Europe.
          4. +11
            30 November 2020 10: 18
            Quote: Carte
            The conclusion is simple - clench your teeth and work. Maybe it will work out, albeit not immediately.

            An interesting recipe. Will it change by itself? Will the bourgeois have a conscience? Potanin will stop killing the North? Will the bourgeois state begin to finance education and medicine, and pay pensioners adequate pensions? - Completeness.
            I do not propose a revolution, I propose to take a real look at life.
          5. +33
            30 November 2020 11: 04
            Quote: Carte
            Are you proposing another revolution?
            The result will be strictly one - complete and final collapse.

            no options.
            Quote: Carte
            The time of the classical revolutions of the early 20th century has passed. Now these technologies have been worked out, calculated, tested, and have a strictly defined purpose.

            then remind us that ALL revolutions come from TOP! And if this happens, it will be thanks to those who were torn from the trough. And there are many! The people are used in the dark, but let the blood of the bourgeoisie - in our blood
          6. +5
            30 November 2020 13: 04
            Quote: Carte
            The conclusion is simple - clench your teeth and work.

            Squeeze your buttocks tighter wassat and earn on yachts "the largest in the world"
      2. +4
        30 November 2020 09: 43
        No, during the anti-Soviet Perestroika, in which, de facto, the enemies of the communists seized the USSR, a classic counter-revolution took place, with the return of what it was before the October Revolution, first, of course, the return of capitalism, and secondly, the same thoroughly thieves' richest power, the richest Church, a system with a huge gap in the incomes of the people, a poor raw material economy.
        1. +8
          30 November 2020 09: 51
          Quote: tatra
          No, during the anti-Soviet Perestroika, in which, de facto, the enemies of the communists captured the USSR, there was a classic counter-revolution

          The concept of revolution does not belong to the communists at all.
          This concept is such - a radical one-step change of something, for example, building, as a rule by violent means.
          So in 91, there was quite a revolution. Only bourgeois. Well, then this technology was called color.
          Given the scale of the USSR, it took a long time to prepare, more than one decade. What we saw in Moscow at 91 is already the very final, the cherry on the cake.
          1. +1
            30 November 2020 09: 58
            Stupidity, none of those who excuse Gorbachev are not able to prove how without him the COUNTER-revolution by the enemies of the communists could have been arranged. Learn to distinguish the "color revolutions" of the enemies of the communists - a change of power without a change in the socio-economic System, from a revolution, as a change of both power and the System. And a real revolution on the territory of the former USSR can only be socialist, or the replacement of the System of the enemies of the communists with the System, as in the West and in the Scandinavian countries.
            1. -2
              30 November 2020 10: 04
              In Scandinavia, capitalism is real, there is a high social system and a citizen provides themselves with high taxes. And everything else is without comment.
              1. +1
                30 November 2020 10: 08
                Stupidity again. Real capitalism is no social benefit to the people, no redistribution of income of the rich in favor of the poor. in countries
                the golden billion "real capitalism has long been gone.
                1. +1
                  30 November 2020 10: 09
                  Go read how the Scandinavian economy works, and then write.
                  1. +1
                    30 November 2020 10: 11
                    Ha, the classic response of the enemies of the communists, when they themselves are not able to prove and substantiate anything, they send others to read something and see.
                    1. +1
                      30 November 2020 10: 17
                      Oh, chew again ... In the Scandinavian countries there is no and never was socialism - capitalism works there: private property dominates, the market functions due to the freedom of movement of capital, labor, goods and services, the economies of these countries are distinguished by a high level of specialization and deeply involved in world trade and globalization processes.

                      The attempts of the "socialists" to cling to the Scandinavian achievements, of course, are understandable, but this is, as it were, someone else's result.

                      The Scandinavian countries do not have any of the mechanisms that distinguish socialism from capitalism - there are no state prices, there is no state planning, state management of production, socialization of the land, or anything at all.

                      In the Scandinavian countries, there are no state banks or shops, pharmacies, etc. Railways and public transport are state-owned, but fares are high. They are also state-owned on one TV channel and one radio channel (analogs of the BBC), but the propaganda is not conducted according to familiar patterns - governments change regularly.

                      The economy of the Scandinavian countries is just an example of the high level of development of capitalism, the opportunities that the free market, freedom of capital, private initiative, and entrepreneurship provide. Scandinavian companies hold leading positions in the world in biopharmaceuticals (Swedish AstraZeneca and Danish NovoNordisk), electrical engineering (Swedish Electrolux, Danish Danfoss), telecoms (Swedish Ericcsson and Skype), oil and gas industry (Norwegian Statoil), transport (Danish Maersk). Lego (Denmark) and IKEA (Sweden) are well known all over the world - they are private. The agrarian sector (all private) of these countries produces food for the population 3-4 times more than their own.

                      In all Scandinavian countries, public administration is built on the principles of liberal democracy: there is a real separation of powers, civil rights are ensured, and elections are held regularly. For the past 30 years, the politics of the Scandinavian countries have been dominated by the center-right parties or the center-right factions of the Social Democrats. Norway, Denmark and Iceland are NATO members.

                      A well-developed industrial base, healthy finances, and high labor productivity allow the establishment of high taxes, most of which are returned in the form of free education, health insurance, pensions, and other types of social assistance (childcare, sickness, disability, unemployment, etc.) .).

                      It is important to understand this: the basis of the "Scandinavian model" is the redistribution of funds due to high taxes, which are possible due to high wages and incomes, which in turn are possible as a result of a very high level of labor productivity in a market economy. All social expenses are included in taxes. The level of personal income tax in Scandinavia is 50-60%. Employers also pay social benefits.

                      GDP per capita - Sweden $ 51,6 thousand, Denmark $ 53,4 thousand, Norway $ 70,8 thousand, Iceland $ 59,9 thousand, Finland (ethnically non-Scandinavian) $ 43 thousand For comparison: US $ 57,4 thousand ., Great Britain $ 39,9 thousand, the world on average $ 10,1 thousand, Russia $ 8,7 thousand

                      The "Scandinavian model" became a variant of the "welfare state", which the British first began to create after World War II. The Labor (Social Democratic) government that came to power in the summer of 1945 had an extensive program of reforms, but ... did not have any money for this at all - the British treasury was empty after the war, like the treasury of all European countries, including the Scandinavians. The Laborites decided to take a loan from the United States, and for this they sent Keynes himself to Washington in late 1945 to negotiate. It was about $ 5 billion without interest. The US refused after months of negotiations. They agreed only after W. Churchill arrived in the United States on a private visit in February-March 1946, who personally vouched for the Labor government in the US Congress. They were given $ 4 billion (roughly $ 50 billion in current money). Churchill then delivered the famous speech in Fulton, where he stated the fall of the "Iron Curtain" across the whole of Europe, and also called on Washington to help Europe get back on its feet. Soon after that, the Marshall Plan for $ 13 billion was adopted, at the expense of which Europe finally began to develop, and the Scandinavians built their own "model". For comparison: during the war years, the USSR received lend-lease assistance only from the United States (excluding England) for $ 11 billion, and after the war it collected only $ 16 billion in reparations from Germany (excluding Japan, Austria and Italy).

                      Is such a model possible all over the world? In principle, yes, if you set yourself, like the Scandinavians, the goal to focus on the person, and not to divert funds for incomprehensible projects and messianic goals.

                      It should be added that the high quality of life in the Scandinavian countries is not limited only to social expenses - it is also measures to protect the environment, rational use of natural resources, and the development of alternative energy sources. Perhaps nowhere in the world is the policy and practice of tolerance given so much importance as in the Scandinavian countries.
                      1. +1
                        30 November 2020 10: 21
                        Where did you copy the whole article from? Are you unable to explain yourself? In the Scandinavian countries, what the enemies of the communists call "equalization" and "take away and divide." And real capitalism is always parasitism and enrichment of the minority at the expense of the majority.
                      2. -2
                        30 November 2020 10: 22
                        I hope you roflish like that.
                      3. +2
                        30 November 2020 14: 50
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        In the Scandinavian countries there are no state banks or shops, pharmacies

                        I did not read the entire commentary for the reason: "In Sweden, all pharmacies were owned by the state and belonged to the state
                        company Apoteket AB until 2009, when the government decided to liberalize
                        sector in a process called "re-regulation". As a consequence, approximately two-thirds
                        all pharmacies are now privately owned through several chains. The owner of the remaining
                        part remains the country's government represented by Apoteket AB "
                2. +29
                  30 November 2020 11: 21
                  Quote: tatra
                  Real capitalism is no social benefit to the people, no redistribution of income of the rich in favor of the poor

                  strange.
                  Rating of TOP-10 countries with the highest living standards:
                  1) Denmark - with a standard of living indicator of 196.65 points.

                  2) Switzerland - with an indicator of living standards of 195.32 points.

                  3) Finland - with an indicator of living standards of 195.03 points.

                  4) Australia - with an indicator of living standards of 192.53 points.

                  5) Austria - with an indicator of living standards of 192.42 points.

                  6) Netherlands - with an indicator of living standards of 188.94 points.

                  7) Germany - with an indicator of living standards of 187.24 points.

                  8) New Zealand - with an indicator of living standards of 185.26 points.

                  9) Norway - with an indicator of living standards of 181.56 points.

                  10) Japan - with a living standard of 179.12
                  Do they have socialism or communism?

                  59) Russia - with a standard of living of 104.94 points, behind countries such as Indonesia, Colombia and Macedonia.
                  1. +4
                    30 November 2020 11: 42
                    And in which parrots the standard of living is measured according to this rating? Ireland is differently better than the Netherlands subjectively, but in Indonesia, well, not like in Russia laughing
                    1. +24
                      30 November 2020 11: 47
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      And in which parrots the standard of living is measured according to this rating?

                      - The purchasing power of citizens (The indicator reflects how many goods or services a specific person can buy for a certain amount of money at the current price level).

                      - Security of residence in the country (Reflects the security of the individual, the entire society and the state from external threats (War, etc.) and internal (crime, etc.).

                      - GDP per capita (Determined based on the market value of goods and services produced in all spheres of the economy on the territory of a given state for final consumption, export and savings for 1 year).

                      - The level of health care.

                      - Availability of healthcare.

                      - The level of environmental pollution.

                      - The level of political freedom.

                      - Percentage of citizens involved in the political life of society.

                      - Political stability.

                      - Territorial location.

                      - The cost of living.

                      - The cost of buying real estate.

                      - The cost of rental housing.

                      - The number of divorces.

                      - The amount of suicide.

                      - Percentage of infant mortality.

                      This top is based on data provided by the Numbeo project
                      https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/
                      1. +4
                        30 November 2020 12: 13
                        - The cost of living.
                        Then the same Denmark is not in the top ten. Coffee per loaf - approx. 12 lbs. In London-5, and even then not everywhere. When buying a car in Denmark, 85% of its value is tax.
                        - The amount of suicide.
                        It rather depends on the culture.
                        - The number of divorces.
                        The bigger, the better wassat Or vice versa wink
                        Game, in short
                      2. +3
                        1 December 2020 11: 32
                        In all three indicators, Indonesia is doing much worse than Russia.
                  2. 0
                    30 November 2020 13: 06
                    Quote: Overlock
                    59) Russia - with a standard of living of 104.94 points, behind countries such as Indonesia, Colombia and Macedonia.

                    And what will happen in another ten years? The RF is degrading at an insane speed.
                3. +1
                  1 December 2020 11: 59
                  Quote: tatra
                  Stupidity again. Real capitalism is no social benefit to the people, no redistribution of income of the rich in favor of the poor. in countries
                  the golden billion "real capitalism has long been gone.

                  Plus for literacy
              2. +5
                30 November 2020 10: 23
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                a citizen is self-sufficient due to high taxes

                The total tax burden on a citizen of Russia is over 70%. Are these low taxes? So maybe the matter is in the efficiency of using budget funds, and not at all in the amount of taxes?
                1. +1
                  30 November 2020 10: 24
                  The HDI there is high - that explains everything. It is debatable about 70 percent in the Russian Federation, about 50 percent in the Russian Federation.
                  1. +3
                    30 November 2020 10: 29
                    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                    Controversial about 70 percent in the Russian Federation

                    43% (13 = 30) direct taxes. VAT 20%, excise taxes, fuel, alcohol, tobacco, Plato, tax on land, real estate, transport and others. In total, under 80%. request
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                    2. -1
                      30 November 2020 10: 35
                      “The tax burden on personal income in Russia is considered one of the lowest in comparison with taxes in other countries. Officially, the income tax is only 13 percent. do not think.

                      The average Russian today receives 33 thousand rubles a month, according to the Federal State Statistics Service. How much money we earn is spent on taxes and other mandatory payments? Let's count.

                      43 percent of our salary goes to income tax and social contributions.

                      Personal income tax (PIT) is 13 percent. Another 30 percent is transferred to the Russian Pension Fund (22 percent), the Mandatory Medical Insurance Fund (5,1 percent) and the Social Insurance Fund (2,9 percent).

                      The duty to transfer these payments rests with the employer, but they are all deducted from the wages fund - that is, from our salaries. Even if the company does not announce the full salary to its employee, its cost for the organization is always estimated together with contributions. And if our average Russian receives 33 thousand rubles in his hands, then he costs his employer 47 thousand rubles. Such an employee simply never sees about 14 thousand rubles.

                      And now we are clean before the state, all taxes have been paid from our salaries. We can use our income at our own will: buy food, refuel the car, and if there is a lot of money, then buy a car. And at best, even an apartment.

                      But we don’t think that we are paying taxes on all purchases: 10-19 percent.

                      Indirect taxes are VAT (value added tax), which is 10 percent on products and 18 percent on manufactured goods. Russian families spend an average of 21 rubles on food and non-food products, according to the Romir research holding. This means that 2,1-3,8 thousand rubles of their average income goes to taxes. Plus, there are different excise taxes on gasoline, cigarettes and alcohol, which the manufacturer includes in the final price.

                      And even if our average Russian is exemplary, does not drink or smoke, he will have to pay for gasoline. Since April 1, the price of each liter of gasoline includes an excise tax of 7,19 rubles. From an average gas tank (40 liters), a Russian gives a little less than 300 rubles in the form of excise tax. Moreover, in the price of gasoline it is about 19 percent.

                      So: Russians who live from paycheck to paycheck give the state taxes on their purchases from 3300 to 6270 rubles. In general, 53 percent is spent on taxes, this is together with those that the employer deducted from the employee's income.

                      But this is not yet the final calculation. Another 0,5-1,3 percent goes to property.

                      The transport tax takes away a little more than one percent from the monthly income of a Russian. "Russian regions in their laws establish a specific tax rate, the procedure and timing of its payment, or they can, at their discretion, provide benefits, up to full exemption from payment of transport tax," explains Natalia Yurchenkova, lawyer at BGP Litigation. Therefore, the amount of tax may vary significantly in different regions.

                      The same car with an engine power of 140 hp in Adygea it will cost its owner 2800 rubles a year, or 233 rubles a month, and in Moscow - 4900 rubles a year, or 408 rubles a month.

                      Many Russians will receive their first property tax payments this year, calculated from the cadastral value. In 2016, such payments will come to residents of 28 regions. Another 26 will join the new tax next year.

                      For example, if the average Russian owns a one-room apartment in Moscow of 33-35 square meters, the average market price of which is 6,3 million rubles, then he will pay about 2015 rubles in tax in 1300, or 108 rubles a month. By 2020, the decreasing coefficients that were introduced for the transitional period will no longer be in effect, and such an apartment will cost the owner already 2700 rubles a year. In Tatarstan, the cost of such an apartment will no longer exceed 2 million. And the tax will have to pay about 500 rubles or 41 rubles per month. In 2020, it will grow to 1700, which means that the property tax is still one of the lowest. In the salaries of Russians, it is less than a percent.

                      Total: the average tax burden on a Russian's wages starts at 53 percent.

                      For owners of cars and apartments, it will already be 55 percent, and those who often update equipment or travel by car will pay the most - up to 61 percent. But we remind you: the employer transfers the largest part of taxes to the budget. We do not see it and do not take it into account when planning our spending.

                      And what about them?

                      In France, all incomes of the country's inhabitants are divided into eight categories. Each of them has its own calculation methodology, taking into account various benefits and deductions. The tax is calculated on a progressive scale. The peculiarity is that he is counted on by his family. In the United States, income tax is paid at three different levels: federal, to the state where the taxpayer lives, and to the local level - city or county.

                      Tax rates differ depending on the level. The size of the taxable base depends on who fills out the declaration - the spouse or the "lone wolf".
                    3. +3
                      30 November 2020 10: 36
                      Article 2016, but more or less explains.
                      1. +5
                        30 November 2020 10: 52
                        Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                        Article 2016, but more or less explains.

                        Not everything has been taken into account. The excise tax is indicated in a liter of gasoline, but the MET is not indicated at all. No Plato, alcohol and tobacco excise taxes. And there are many such hidden "little things". VAT in monetary terms has grown since 2016 (price increases are obvious), but salary has not.
                        In general, the Russian tax system is extremely flawed in its inefficiency. There was, like, an article comparing the taxation system of the USA and the Russian Federation.
                      2. +4
                        30 November 2020 10: 57
                        Yes, in the Russian Federation the tax burden is unreasonably high, there is no dispute here. The worst thing is that many people do not know that they give away so much money, as financial literacy in the Russian Federation is very low. If they knew, they would ask questions. And even under 50 taxes from the business are taken away (not counting the deduction from the salary)
                    4. +1
                      1 December 2020 12: 11
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      43% (13 = 30) direct taxes. VAT 20%, excise taxes, fuel, alcohol, tobacco, Plato, tax on land, real estate, transport and others. In total, under 80%.

                      strange how you can add excise taxes and vat?
                      VAT is imposed when the excise tax is already in price, mathematically it is not correct to add it.
                      If you follow your formula. I pay 47% of salary taxes (and I am an ordinary hired worker, one might say) and having 17% VAT and excise taxes and taxes, maybe yours, should not only not receive a salary, but work for free, also pay extra.
                      1. 0
                        2 December 2020 21: 09
                        Quote: Arpad
                        adding is not mathematically correct.

                        There are many methods of calculation in mathematics. To the cost price (which includes transport costs, the same plato, and fuel excise taxes, added value, and, accordingly, income tax, and, as a result, VAT. So how many percent of taxes are in the product that you buy? Even the simplest calculations show that not only VAT. hi
                2. +2
                  30 November 2020 10: 25
                  Well, and so. Yes, the effectiveness of bureaucracy in the Scandinavian countries is certainly higher.
                3. +4
                  30 November 2020 13: 09
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  So maybe the matter is in the efficiency of using budget funds, and not at all in the amount of taxes?

                  The point is that the country is run by people who hear about efficiency every day, but they do not know what this word means.
              3. +4
                30 November 2020 12: 09
                Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                In Scandinavia, capitalism is real, there is a high social system and a citizen provides themselves with high taxes.

                You have probably never come across a "high social". Sweden. A maximum of 8 thousand CZK before tax (30% will take off), if you did not work before looking for unemployment benefits, you will even be offered to sell the car, if you have one, to make ends meet, if you have a decent bank account and you are looking housing allowance or benefits, you won't get anything until you “live off” your savings. If you worked, then you need to work at least six months and at least 80 hours a week to get 80% of the salary. If you receive an allowance, you need to prove that you are in constant search of work, refusal of the provided job in your specialty is unacceptable, even if the job is offered on the other side of the country. And the allowance is not paid for an unlimited period.
                Living to the minimum is a school of survival. From the tax from the minimum benefit, you yourself will count, deduct the rent (benefits are relied on, but there is no free accommodation), this is also 30 percent. But the rest can be chic with pasta and beach packets, not forgetting to pay, electricity, TV (a mandatory "program" even if you it is not) and woe to you if you get sick. Medication costs money, as does a doctor's appointment.
                Now voice your "everything else without comments", it is very interesting to listen to a knowledgeable person, especially if he is not a refugee.
                I wrote this about ordinary citizens, those who are in the government and next to them, everything is in order.
                1. +4
                  30 November 2020 13: 37
                  Living to the minimum is a school of survival
                  In England, an appointment with a doctor is free for everyone. (Who is legal in the country) Like all medicine in general. 1) Teeth-free (including dentures) 2) The rent is covered by the state (up to a certain, rather low threshold) The allowance is paid in general until you grunt. Demand to go to work in Shetlands from London laughing won't be - like a 100 mile radius If the account has more than £ 16000, no allowance is given. On the allowance, you can live without frills, there are cheap food lines in supermarkets where simple food (bread, chicken, pasta tongue flour and canned food and, you will not believe, beer belay ) are very cheap. I strongly do not recommend eating them. Local outcasts still manage to drink every day and get high for this money (73 pounds a week). Something like that. I myself did not live, but many representatives of the diaspora do not disdain, therefore I know.
                  1. +4
                    30 November 2020 14: 13
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    In England, a doctor's appointment is free for everyone. (

                    The Swedes are free until 18 and after 85, for citizens, refugees are paid, but cheaper, dental is free until 23. If there is a hundred thousand on the account, they will not give benefits (for the same communal apartment), I will say more - benefits for single residents and together with someone are different, even a pension to one of the spouses of pensioners (civil or registered, but living at the same address) can be assigned less earned, like the other half gets enough, they have enough.
                    The local drunks, whom I see, get drunk famously, they crawl home from the store, they sometimes move, in the summer, the shops, the windows in the apartments are often knocked out, the commune inserts them, of course, but in the cold, in the summer, it makes no sense, this is on our collective farm, in city, maybe differently.
                    1. +4
                      30 November 2020 14: 21
                      Benefits for singles in England are also less - if the other half is working, then a housing subsidy will not be given. If the two of you are unemployed, the benefit will also be slightly less. Get drunk - cheap (£ 2 for 2 liters) strong cider that tastes like carbonated solvent and has high efficiency am
                      But in general, tales of paradise life on benefits are indestructible, like these same drunks wassat
                2. +1
                  30 November 2020 13: 50
                  at least 80 hours a week
                  Certainly not an achipyatka? belay If so, then even South Koreans will be surprised at the Swedish performance.
                  1. +3
                    30 November 2020 15: 50
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    at least 80 hours a week
                    Certainly not an achipyatka? belay If so, then even South Koreans will be surprised at the Swedish performance.

                    https://arbetsformedlingen.se/for-arbetssokande/arbetslos---vad-hander-nu/ersattning-fran-a-kassa
                    This is for receiving unemployment benefits, in order to receive not a minimum, but 80% of the salary, that is, you need to work 6 months and at the same time at least 80 hours a week. This is the case for shift workers who receive hourly wages. Those who have a permanent job and a stable salary, this does not apply, they will receive their 80% when they lose their jobs, which will decrease over the years. Well, those who have a permanent job pay contributions to the a-cash office, which pays benefits in case of job loss. If they do not pay, they will receive a maximum of 8 thousand, as I wrote earlier. By the way, those who do not have a permanent job (that is, hourly workers) cannot take out a bank loan either.
                    By the way, you can't get a permanent job once or twice. Probationary plus education. For unskilled work for permanent registration, you need to work for three years as a substitute. But each commune probably has its own criteria.
                    1. +2
                      30 November 2020 15: 54
                      at least 80 hours a week.
                      That is, 13.3 hours a day with one day off belay Yes, Koreans are just lazy.
                      1. +3
                        30 November 2020 16: 06
                        [quote = Boltorez] [quote] at least 80 hours a week. [/ quote] That is, 13.3 hours a day with one day off belay Yes, Koreans are just lazy. [/ Quote
                        Perhaps you did not understand, this is for those who receive an hourly salary, they can work just one day a week, most of them. And provided that they have lost this "job", so to speak, the allowance is calculated from these criteria. As for lazy people, I agree, many work for six months and then live without doing anything. I have no idea how you can live on this, but probably laziness is stronger than hunting, and how to live doing absolutely nothing, I cannot understand, not being able to go somewhere even in my own country, and this is not a cheap pleasure, cheaper by the way , to go to Spain than to travel to Sweden.
                      2. +1
                        30 November 2020 16: 19
                        cheaper by the way, to go to Spain
                        It's a fact, yes. English recipients hare on trains around England if they want to travel good Through Facebook, especially advanced people even find themselves among those who are similar in lifestyle Yes And my wife and I went to Kiev for 4 days off, it turned out cheaper (taking into account all costs) than staying in London. And not only to Kiev. And how to live for a penny without doing anything - just a vegetable in front of a TV set with a bottle of liquor. This suits some quite well.
                3. +1
                  1 December 2020 10: 01
                  You may be right. But the Scandinavian countries are the best in the world in terms of living standards. If they are so, then others are even worse.
            2. +3
              30 November 2020 10: 11
              I don't know Gorbachev personally, I only saw him on TV. And of course tons of materials on the internet and in books. But the price of such information is known to be low.
              What they were guided by there personally is unknown and incomprehensible to me.
              Your problem is that you call communists the invented idolized characters about whom other communists wrote in the newspapers.
              And that same color revolution was staged by the real ones. People, citizens of the USSR with the best education in the world, members of the CPSU, its leadership and the color of the peoples of the USSR, chosen as a result of fair socialist elections.
              And the result of this all turned out like this.
              No matter how you call the revolution - real, fake, socialist. The result will still be the same - DESTROY.
          2. +31
            30 November 2020 11: 15
            Quote: Carte
            So in 91 there was quite a revolution.

            if in 1917 there was a revolution, then in 1991 there was a counter-revolution. The "whites" came to power. If you look at what is happening now, there is no doubt.
            1. +3
              30 November 2020 13: 24
              Quote: Overlock
              The "whites" came to power. If you look at what is happening now, there is no doubt.

              What are they white? Former party leaders, upstarts and traitors. Although now of course they think of themselves as nobles.
          3. +1
            30 November 2020 14: 23
            Quote: Carte
            This concept (revolution) is such - a radical one-step change of something, for example, building, usually by violent means.

            A striking example of a revolution that is not violent, such as a change in production forces and production relations, is China. "if in 1978 the enterprises that were in the national ownership accounted for 77,6% of industrial production, and for the" collective "- 22,4%, then in 2009 the public sector provides only 26,7% of the production, 26,9 , 20,4% of total profits and 60% of employment. " Russia, with its revolution, in this respect is the antipode of China. State ownership is over 70-XNUMX%. In fact, no one controls the state-owned companies, they are not accounted for, and their existence benefits only the management, which can overestimate their salaries against the background of chronic unprofitability.
        2. Fat
          +3
          30 November 2020 12: 19
          Quote: tatra
          No, during the anti-Soviet Perestroika, in which, de facto, the enemies of the communists seized the USSR, a classic counter-revolution took place, with the return of what it was before the October Revolution, first, of course, the return of capitalism, and secondly, the same thoroughly thieves' richest power, the richest Church, a system with a huge gap in the incomes of the people, a poor raw material economy.

          What are the enemies of the communists? Perestroika is a pathetic attempt to curb the party-economic bureaucracy by introducing self-government. The implementation of "perestroika" was entrusted to bureaucrats.
          A raven will not peck out a raven's eyes. As a result, the Soviet elite quickly realized that families would run the risk of being left without the trough of state distribution of benefits. Centrifugal forces quickly, with the weakening of the state, led to the collapse of the country, the collapse of the planned economy and the transformation of the mediated plunder of the masses through the state system into outright plunder.
          1. +4
            30 November 2020 13: 25
            Quote: Thick
            What are the enemies of the communists? Perestroika is a pathetic attempt to curb the party economic bureaucracy by introducing self-government

            This is a pretext for counter-revolution.
        3. for
          +7
          30 November 2020 13: 27
          Quote: tatra
          the enemies of the communists captured the USSR

          So the "communists" took it, there were no non-party people.
      3. +3
        30 November 2020 10: 23
        Quote: Carte
        We had a classic color revolution just at 91.

        Comrade said correctly! hi
        Only now it turns out to be awkward: those who curse our "color revolutions" make good use of its fruits and in every possible way support its successors at home and blame others for the same thing over the hill. It can be seen that we have a "revolution" as "it is necessary", while in others it is "not necessary".
        In general, brain cancer request
        1. +3
          30 November 2020 10: 30
          No, that's not the point.
          Only that revolution is always destruction. Even if in the name of building something new - it is still destruction, in the literal sense. And people die in the millions.
          Is it worth it? In the name of a bright future that may not come? After all, it was the communists who demonstrated that the system they created did not last even a century. An ideological and economic degeneration took place.
          And now, when, well, what is there, they are really building a lot of different things in Russia, and cities have changed, and cars on the streets (albeit not everywhere, yes) - now again, to break everything for the sake of the very idea that has already destroyed itself once?
          After all, you must admit that there are no bright, intelligible, and simply sane communist leaders and ideas now.
          So what for then?
          1. +1
            30 November 2020 10: 36
            Quote: Carte
            revolution is always destruction.

            Who argues
            Quote: Carte
            Is it worth it?

            No answer. To paraphrase your question a little: if there was no Soviet state and the grandfathers knew about the present day, would they go to die for the kingdom of the bourgeoisie now?
            Quote: Carte
            really build in Russia a lot of different things, and cities have changed, and cars on the streets

            Excellent passage. Here are just the official statistics: 90% of property in the country belongs to 10% of the population.
            The answer depends on what part of the population you are in.
            In fact, the answer is "are you satisfied with selfish interests or do you think about compatriots who are worse off than you?"
            1. +2
              30 November 2020 11: 22
              What's the use of statistics, even if they are official.
              I am a simple person, I compare my own life, and the life of relatives, friends and acquaintances.
              So now it is, well, definitely not worse than it was, for example, 20 years ago, and in some places much better.
              I don't know anything about the oligarchs, only from the Internet. What is written in it and who may or may not be true.
              How to evaluate? That's right, only by personal example and looking around you.
              And so, looking around, looking and thinking, the conclusion is that the situation is not as good as we would like, but it is definitely not so bad that we would break everything again and try to survive in new muddy water.
              It happened on the ruins of the USSR - who could have sold everything they could reach. And the system of remuneration of public sector employees, even though it was bad, by inertia, worked.

              Now that's it, there is nothing more to steal in large quantities. Everything is in action. Maybe someone will grab from the former oligarchs (by the way, why? To become one, in fairness?), But it will definitely not be me.
              So I don't need revolutions. I will try to build in the existing reality.
              1. -1
                30 November 2020 11: 58
                Quote: Carte
                So I don't need revolutions.

                Who needs them
            2. +28
              30 November 2020 11: 23
              Quote: Silvestr
              if it were not for the Soviet state and the grandfathers knew about the present day, would they go to die for the kingdom of the bourgeoisie now?

              an interesting question that no one wants to answer.
              1. +1
                30 November 2020 13: 25
                Quote: Overlock
                Quote: Silvestr
                if it were not for the Soviet state and the grandfathers knew about the present day, would they go to die for the kingdom of the bourgeoisie now?

                an interesting question that no one wants to answer.

                Do you think now there are many who want to, if they seriously smell fried?
            3. +3
              30 November 2020 11: 29
              Quote: Silvestr
              if it were not for the Soviet state and the grandfathers knew about the present day, would they go to die for the kingdom of the bourgeoisie now?

              I would put the question differently - if the grandfathers knew about the present day, how it will all end - would they go to die for the revolution?
              1. 0
                30 November 2020 11: 59
                Quote: Carte
                would put the question differently - if the grandfathers knew about the present day, how it will end - would they go to die for the revolution?

                It is truth too. I think not, and in both cases
          2. 0
            30 November 2020 18: 32
            Quote: Carte
            No, that's not the point.
            It is easier to explain to prostitutes why it is bad to have sex for money than to turn professional revolutionaries off the path indicated by Soros.
      4. +6
        30 November 2020 10: 52
        Quote: Carte
        We had a classic color revolution just at 91.

        What then was the color revolution? We have Thermidor in half with a directory. The classical elimination of the people from any influence on the bureaucracy, and the monetization of the administrative resource. Everything is strictly according to the history textbook. Flies (people) separately, cutlets (power and money) separately.
      5. +28
        30 November 2020 11: 00
        Quote: Carte
        We had a classic color revolution just at 91. The whole set of technologies. And all the consequences.

        without a doubt.
    3. +7
      30 November 2020 10: 08
      Having broken through to power, such an audience turns into tyrants, striving to tell everyone what language to speak, what to breathe and what to think about.

      Right... hi
      The leader of the Black Lives Matter movement in Toronto does not hesitate to call white subhumans:

      “White skin is subhuman. All phenotypes exist within the black family. White people are a genetic defect of the black race. "
      1. +28
        30 November 2020 11: 24
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        “White skin is subhuman. All phenotypes exist within the black family. White people are a genetic defect of the black race. "

        there are enough sick people everywhere
    4. +3
      30 November 2020 10: 14
      Quote: Hunter 2
      with examples ... it's good that strangers.

      Is it strangers?
      ... Destruction of industry, science, education ... Complete demolition of the social sphere habitual since Soviet times. All of this is the inevitable result of "revolutions" governed from abroad and carried out under the most seemingly wonderful slogans.

      Russia also falls under this definition. Isn't what the author said in the country? Everything is present. But then the conclusion is unambiguous - Russia with Yeltsin experienced a typical "color revolution". It is strange that the current power of its "conquest" preserves and increases.
    5. +1
      30 November 2020 20: 33
      Quote: Hunter 2
      What we actually saw on examples ... it's good that strangers.

      Absolutely wrong, everything is turned upside down. Revolution is a consequence! And it is useless to fight the investigation, here we are convinced of this
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    30 November 2020 08: 54
    Another propaganda campaign from Kharaluzhny ...
    However, I was attracted by:
    strict subordination of its economy to the interests of foreign "partners", leading such to inevitable destruction ... Destruction of industry, science, education ... Complete demolition of the social sphere habitual since Soviet times.
    It seems that there was no color revolution in Russia, but the taste is the same.
    1. +13
      30 November 2020 09: 04
      There was a color revolution, the results were the collapse of the Soviet Union and incessant wars in the post-Soviet space!
      1. +8
        30 November 2020 09: 12
        Quote: VORON538
        There was a color revolution, the results were the collapse of the Soviet Union and incessant wars in the post-Soviet space!

        The collapse of the USSR has nothing to do with color revolutions, and this is a seriously prepared counter-revolutionary coup.
      2. +26
        30 November 2020 11: 26
        Quote: VORON538
        There was a color revolution, the results are the collapse of the Soviet Union and the incessant wars in the post-Soviet space!

        и
        Quote: Hunter 2

        What is actually We were convinced by examples ... it's good that strangers.

        from the same field, but opinions are different.
        1. +3
          30 November 2020 14: 08
          I don't know what kind of fields you have there, with what plants. what
          Living people can always have a different opinion, because we are not like your cohort, which they will write in the training manual, and sculpt! hi
          1. +26
            30 November 2020 18: 09
            Quote: VORON538
            after all, we are not like your cohort, which they will prescribe in the training manual, and sculpts

            The fact of the matter is that your training manual is similar, only "hurray". I am a free shooter, what I see is what I sing about
    2. +3
      30 November 2020 09: 35
      Was. Only not in Russia, but in the USSR.
      Now some people really want to start a revolution again, finish it off, so to speak.
      1. +1
        30 November 2020 09: 47
        A revolution, in contrast to a coup, is not only a change of power, but also a change in the socio-economic system. Then you are for the system of degradation, impoverishment, extinction of Russia established by the enemies of the communists after their capture of Russia?
        1. +2
          30 November 2020 10: 02
          You do not understand.
          The revolution now, in principle, cannot lead to positive results.
          The times are not the same, and the technologies for carrying out such revolutions have greatly improved.
          Such a revolution will be led by these most advanced technologists.
          And it so happened that just they not only do not wish us prosperity, but also vice versa - they are doing everything possible to finally resolve the Russian issue.
          No slogans for justice and against the "impoverishment of Russia" will lead to positive results, but only are a means to achieve the goals of destruction.
          You cannot, even if you sincerely want, bring back the communists, return the USSR. It may be possible to destroy the hated Russian capitalism, but to build it - no.
          First, because you simply won't be given. None of the rest of the capitalists will stand and wait until you ditch another 30 years and millions of people to create a force of opposition for them.
          This is obvious to me.
          Secondly, because the communists do not have a coherent program that can really interest the people. Everything is based on the myths about the beautiful USSR, in which everything was given by the state, and everyone was equal.
          Third, there is no sane, credible leader.
          But there is a touching unanimity between the liberal Western fighters against the regime and the current communists. The fight against the regime is going on in one ranks.
          This circumstance alone causes the majority of citizens to at least distrust, and even reject all these new communist ideologies.
          Well, the obvious things.
          1. +1
            30 November 2020 10: 05
            Such a long "footcloth" just to confirm that you are for the system established to the enemies of the communists, in which Russia has been degrading and impoverished for 30 years, and the Russian people are becoming impoverished and dying out.
            1. +1
              30 November 2020 10: 43
              I’m not for you, don’t be offended.
              This is me for ordinary people who walk the streets and build a country.

              But I will specifically answer for you.
              I'm not against communism, not at all. I am against the communism you invented.
              Maybe communism as an ideology is not evil, but quite the opposite. We need to figure it out.
              Maybe.
              But what you preach so aggressively is no communism. This is an informational chimera, an invented ideal system, which existed only on the pages of newspapers, perhaps, and now exists in the heads and lips of the propagandists of the new revolution. Which for some reason you call communism.
              And this is just the worst thing. You slip us, ordinary people, a cardboard invented ideology as a method of dealing with reality. What positive result for people can this lead to? After all, it is clear that you and your supporters are not able to build any of these idealistic constructions about social justice and social equality.

              Your supporters with all your aggression, waving slogans, and a cardboard invented country have nothing to do with communism. The only thing you can do is build the personal well-being of your supporters on the bones of others. Of course, with round dances about social justice and equality.
              And this is understandable to most of those who read you.
              1. +1
                30 November 2020 10: 48
                Well, AGAIN an evil and senseless "footcloth". The anomaly of humanity, the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR, has nothing for their country and people, everything is only AGAINST everything Soviet / communist. So you have nothing FOR this Yeltsin-Putin system, there is only a desire to leave it for Russia and the Russian people.
                1. +1
                  30 November 2020 10: 59
                  Again you don't understand.
                  The Yeltsin-Putin System is there, and it works. How is a debatable question.
                  You have nothing but slogans.
                  1. +1
                    30 November 2020 11: 13
                    Well, that's what was required to prove, and well, your evil "footcloths" were needed. You are for Russia and the Russian people for the Yeltsin-Putin System, in which Russia has been degrading and impoverished for 30 years, and the Russian people are becoming impoverished and dying out. And all normal people understand that everything will only get worse for Russia and its people.
                    1. +2
                      30 November 2020 11: 15
                      I can't believe you really believe what you are saying.
                      This discussion is public, many people read it.
                      Do you really think with such an understanding of the issue to find supporters for yourself?
                      1. +1
                        30 November 2020 11: 20
                        Are you capable of adequately explaining your attitude to the Yeltsin-Putin System without malice and senseless verbiage? Are you FOR it for Russia and the Russian people, or not?
                      2. +1
                        30 November 2020 11: 39
                        That is, you did not understand anything from the previously written?
                        How can I explain to you?

                        Last try.
                        This system EXISTS. I live in it.
                        Your system only exists in your head. But you want to break the real one.

                        Well, I don't know ... well, for example, there is a road, and we walk and drive it. There is no other way. Well, not in reality.
                        You angrily shout that you do not need it, and you will walk through the forest. In spite, probably, that would freeze ears.
                        Well, this is not enough - you shout that this road must be destroyed because it is wrong, disgusting, not built by the right people.
                        But in return, you offer a clumsy, obscure picture drawn by hand in red pencil.
                      3. +1
                        30 November 2020 11: 49
                        In general, no matter how I tried to get at least something adequate from you, I could not. The enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people are invincible, a priori incapable of anything normal.
                      4. -2
                        30 November 2020 11: 55
                        No one except you will spoil the idea of ​​communism as much as you with your stubborn slogans and concrete misunderstanding.
                        Fiery hello to cockroaches.
                      5. +1
                        30 November 2020 11: 58
                        Ha, anti-Sovietism / anti-communism is a mental illness. I tell you about the Yeltsin-Putin System and the power for which you, and you are locked in communism.
                      6. -1
                        30 November 2020 12: 01
                        Well, what do you imagine. Isn't it communism?
                        So here I am writing to you: what you are broadcasting so pretentiously is not communism, but an invented cardboard agitation with the same name.
                        You have nothing to do with real communism.
                        And I just have a relation to the system with which you are fighting - I live in it, like all other citizens of the country.
          2. +2
            30 November 2020 10: 07
            This nonsense in the style of all revolutions the British did.
          3. +27
            30 November 2020 11: 30
            Quote: Carte
            The revolution now, in principle, cannot lead to positive results.

            too straightforward. Do you deny the industrial development of the USSR? It is obvious that in the next period all revolutions will have the effect you have indicated, but in the future it all depends on who is at the helm.
            Roughly comparing Stalin-Khrushchev-Brezhnev, is it really possible to say that with their departure life has not changed? Changed. Under Khrushchev, they began to live better than under Stalin, under Brezhnev, better than under Khrushchev. But after Brezhnev, they became very bad. It is obvious
        2. -5
          30 November 2020 10: 07
          It is not for the supporters of the USSR to criticize the change of power. As after the civil war the supporters of the USSR brought so many troubles. What is the turning point in the birth rate of Russians, when the Russians had coffee during RI? 5.6, and in 1941 among the Russians 2.3. Because of the wild urbanization policy in the cities.
          1. +1
            30 November 2020 11: 24
            And you, enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, naturally have nothing to do with the fact that after your capture of Russia, the supermortality rate of the Russian people amounted to more than 14 million people, the number of Russians in Russia, according to the 2010 census alone, decreased by 8 million, and the Russian people suffered demographic damage of more than 50 million people?
  4. +15
    30 November 2020 08: 57
    The transition of such a state under external control, the strict subordination of its economy to the interests of foreign "partners", leading such to inevitable destruction ... Destruction of industry, science, education ... Complete demolition of the social sphere habitual from Soviet times. All these are the inevitable results of “revolutions”, governed from abroad and carried out under the most seemingly wonderful slogans, whatever they may be in their name and “color”.

    - All this speaks for the fact that Russia is the country of the Maidan that won in 1991 and 1993. And then we lost territory, and with economic zones, like an impostor with the Kemp volost ... The author wanted to say one thing - but that's what got out. Therefore, we are not talking about the Maidan. it is under the slogans of socialism about counter-Maidan.
    1. +7
      30 November 2020 09: 27
      And so we still live with this Maidan!
    2. +3
      30 November 2020 09: 38
      Quote: Galleon
      Therefore, we are not talking about the Maidan. it is under the slogans of socialism about counter-Maidan.

      Under ANY slogans - the result is always the same, collapse and destruction.
      Whatever goals are declared. And these technologies were invented not for construction, but exactly the opposite.
      This is what the article is about.
      1. +5
        30 November 2020 10: 26
        Quote: Carte
        Under ANY slogans - the result is always the same, collapse and destruction.

        So I'm talking about the same! They can only take away and prohibit, plunder and enrich themselves. Even if they wanted to, they would not be able to create. There is such a law in political science. Just as a professional oppositionist is incapable of leading (a city, a ministry, a direction, a project), so a thief and plunderer is incapable of creation. He can only steal at a construction site. We have planned the construction of the Moscow-Sochi railway for 1 trillion - there will be plenty to do with friends.
        1. -3
          30 November 2020 10: 50
          Will the road be built? Yes.
          Why was it not built in the USSR, where, as we know, there was no corruption, and no one stole (according to the materials of the fighters against the regime)? No answer...
          How reliably do we know how much money will be stolen during construction? Not at all. Only from the messages of those very fighters against the regime.
          Why is there no way to overthrow the regime? Because information about terrible corruption and theft cannot be verified - you can only trust those who disseminate it.
          But there is information that you can check. For example, about total hunger and extinction. Or about the massive destruction of factories. And suddenly it turns out that this is a complete total lie, and the same lie that are broadcasting about corruption.
          How will people follow them? For PERSONAL wellbeing only.
          1. +28
            30 November 2020 11: 33
            Quote: Carte
            Will the road be built?

            will be built, although its cost will increase 5 times.
            Tavrida track: initially estimated its cost in 85 billion rubles. As a result, the road cost 150 billion rubles. You can build!
            1. -2
              30 November 2020 11: 56
              Again, I will ask - why was it not built in the USSR, with the most perfect economic system (according to the fighters against the regime)?
              1. 0
                30 November 2020 14: 15
                You will not wait for an answer
                They never answer to the point.
                Only general slogans with one thought! hi
  5. BAI
    +6
    30 November 2020 09: 04
    Color Revolution is the best way to lose territory

    I have already seen several articles on this topic and with these examples.
  6. +6
    30 November 2020 09: 07
    Everything is correct. Corrupt bureaucracy relying on criminals and loot from behind the fence shakes the vertical, justice and the economy. Further, the lumpen, the naive intelligentsia and students, and other people driven to despair by poverty, begin to destroy everything. All according to Lenin. Then all over again - the puppet-puppet, the theft of IMF loans and spare sites behind the fence, passports of other countries. Everything worked out. What do ordinary people want, not burdened with real estate and babos behind the fence? Justice. The authorities must remember this.
    1. +1
      30 November 2020 09: 50
      Normal people and patriots should understand that if revolutions / coups are organized by the enemies of the communists, then this is ALWAYS only to the detriment of the country and the people.
    2. +27
      30 November 2020 11: 34
      Quote: Balu
      The authorities must remember this.

      remember before the elections .. promising and promising
  7. +6
    30 November 2020 09: 12
    Anecdote - a stubborn liberal wondered how all color revolutions begin with a struggle for freedom, human rights ... and as a result - the collapse of the country, civil war and a killed economy ...
    The liberal prayed - Lord, make me a participant in such a color revolution that would lead the people to prosperity, and the country to prosperity - the Lord heard the liberal's prayer and he ended up on Tian an Men Square in 1989. under the track of a Chinese tank. wassat
    1. -3
      30 November 2020 13: 44
      Quote: Nazar
      he ended up in Tian an Men Square in 1989. under the track of a Chinese tank

      "Patriots" love to remember the square. They do not like to remember that all the requirements of the "area" were fulfilled. The old elite was kicked out, the cruel state. control is reduced, freedoms have increased.
      1. +1
        30 November 2020 14: 19
        In China? Well, yes. Inquire what there is "social credit" in China and compare with your comments that you write in Russia (although you hardly live with us, rather in one of the neighboring countries, for example, in Belarus)
        I think that in China, for your behavior, albeit in virtual reality, you would have been demoted in real life to the "untouchable" caste (conditionally). This is normal freedom with a rigid order in all spheres. winkThere is a separate conversation about corruption in the PRC, they shoot, imprison, yes, but there are people, and they also have a place to be, and often ours are not near (there is more money, which means opportunities). You just never have with them. they talked, and here they live across the river! Although they are good fellows, they just rolled out protestors in the square and now it is the second, if not the first, economy in the world!
  8. +1
    30 November 2020 09: 12
    In short, utin must sit forever. interestingly in America there is a turnover, as we write one more badly than the other, presidents, the country is developing. we are led by the greatest utin, and we are sliding into the abyss, the crises are to blame, then the Candoliza Rice, then the Queen of Britain crap on us.
    1. +1
      30 November 2020 11: 41
      Free wind - Colleague, why is it so harsh - eh? Quote: "... utin should sit forever", I think it is not necessary "forever" it is quite acceptable if he will sit "for life" - the main question is where to sit? wassat
  9. +8
    30 November 2020 09: 15
    The revolution of roses, cornflowers and other plants should simply be called the revolution of burdocks. The figurative meaning of this plant perfectly explains the post-revolutionary consequences.
    1. +3
      30 November 2020 10: 22
      Quote: Dimy4
      The revolution of roses, cornflowers and other plants should simply be called the revolution of burdocks. The figurative meaning of this plant perfectly explains the post-revolutionary consequences.

      Laconic and to the point.
      The Armenian radio was asked, but the Odessa radio replied:
      How to translate into Armenian "Self-determination up to separation and formation of an independent state"?
      - It is very difficult, because in the Russian and Armenian languages ​​this expression has completely different meanings.
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    1. +3
      30 November 2020 09: 52
      In order to have the right to be AGAINST, you must offer your best alternative for the country and the people, in particular, for Russia and Belarus.
      1. +22
        30 November 2020 11: 35
        Quote: tatra
        in particular, for Russia and Belarus, an alternative.

        which one? New-old "communism-2"? Who will believe?
        1. +1
          30 November 2020 11: 46
          If you can NOT offer your alternative, then why the hell did you answer me?
    2. Fat
      -1
      30 November 2020 12: 44
      Quote: vasek5533
      The author apparently wants to say that now Lukashenko, and soon Putin too, can and should rape and kill the population in order to stay in power at any cost, otherwise there will be a revolution and loss of territory. Or maybe you just need not to lead to a revolution, build a stable system of power and leave on time?

      Well, let's say, not the entire population, but only the most advanced part of it, which really wants to steer and steer independently)))
  11. +5
    30 November 2020 09: 24
    Although the authorities should not abuse this fact either: political and economic activity should be such that the people a priori do not have a craving for revolutionary upheavals

    Obvious !!!
    Dissatisfied are always and everywhere !!! Basically, it depends on the state authorities that the quantity, not so large, usually does not grow into quality.
    Start as a world .... but these rakes have been and will continue to be.
    1. +26
      30 November 2020 11: 36
      Quote: rocket757
      but this rake has been and will continue to be.

      capitalism drew conclusions for itself from the Great October Socialist Revolution
      1. 0
        30 November 2020 12: 33
        Quote: Overlock
        capitalism has drawn conclusions for itself

        Yes, they now have a lot of experience, they have adopted various methods and technologies !!! Moreover, they clearly understand who their true enemy is.
  12. +6
    30 November 2020 09: 32
    All three examples are completely different. You can remember Kyrgyzstan - there are these color revolutions constantly, and the territory is not lost. After the first Maidan, Ukraine, too, did not lose anything. In general, the conclusions are far-fetched.
    1. +3
      30 November 2020 10: 16
      After all, you can take other examples where there is a loss of territories.
      Obviously, the technologies are about the same, and the development of the situation may be different.
      Here different factors matter ...
      By the way, they also have something that unites, such events do not bring anything fundamentally good to anyone.
  13. +3
    30 November 2020 09: 42
    Solid Nightingale droppings
  14. +3
    30 November 2020 09: 45
    The article is clearly manipulative in nature, substituting concepts and whitewashing those who made an anti-revolution in the 90s, and now are struggling to prevent the opposite by mixing the concepts of revolution and coup.
    1. +3
      30 November 2020 10: 12
      Well, naturally. This is not written for us, for those who were born in capitalism. Such a horror story, for those who are not politically savvy, they say liberals of all stripes want to tear the country apart. And the main fighter openly calls himself a liberal and puts flowers on the grave of the ghoul Solzhenitsyn.
      The counter-revolution in Russia is in power, what does it have to do with the Maidan on the outskirts, inspired by the West? As a result of the coup, it seceded, like all the other "independent". It should only be about Russia and its citizens.
      The counter-revolutionary government is not effective. With its management, only unscrupulous backsliders of all stripes are good. Usurers, swindlers. It eliminates all the social achievements of the USSR, throwing masses of people to the sidelines of life.
  15. +6
    30 November 2020 09: 48
    Color revolutions cannot be called revolutions. Since they do not affect the economic and social foundations, the leaders and the elite are changing. All this is invented. White revolution in Iran. Somewhere else, yellow, and so on.
    1. +4
      30 November 2020 10: 19
      But this is true, "ordinary" redistribution of power, not by legal means. Change from one owner to another.
  16. +8
    30 November 2020 09: 54
    For some reason, the author does not speak about the USSR, because the same "revolution" was made here, with the loss of territories, and even some, an attempt to annul all social obligations to the people, who were also used to collapse the country. The same engines of "progress": journalists, figures of "culture", a nationally concerned "intelligentsia" in the form of teachers of national literature and language, and of course a part of the "administrative elite". None of them incurred any punishment, they and their followers are still successfully working on the final solution of the Russian question. The last example is our vaccine, with which we run around the world and offer everyone to help in its production ......... Instead of the promised 200 million doses, they smoothly moved to 2 million by the end of the year. They optimized the industry in such a way that they themselves did not expect. So what? The same people who were engaged in the optimization of medicine, sit in the same places and report on what is not clear what successes. Science gave - in spite of everything, the result, but there was no industry. Expected? Sure. Now, when the situation has worsened, it is naive to think that only here we were not ready. I would like to believe that right now, when the stake is greater than life, our Kloss will make everyone, as in the Polish picture.
    1. +6
      30 November 2020 10: 00
      This is how the industry was optimized ...

      Yes, they optimized, a dull simple bolt and then Chinese, wooden paddles for pans - Chinese, you can continue indefinitely.
  17. +5
    30 November 2020 09: 57
    The growth of nationalist sentiments among the "titular" and Maidan is a natural process. In the Russians (Russian-speaking), local "elites" see a threat to their very existence in the former 14 union republics. Russians are now the most divided people. The rest of the peoples fall under the "hot hand" or old grievances against their neighbors emerge.
    I don't like the combination "color revolution". Maidan and revolution are opposites.
  18. +3
    30 November 2020 10: 00
    It would be very nice that each of those who are faced with calls to take part in the next "protests" - it does not matter, in Minsk, Moscow, Bishkek or somewhere else, would begin by asking himself the question: "With which part of your Homeland I am offered to say goodbye forever? " Perhaps then there would be fewer "Maidans" and attempts to arrange them.
    Alas! Many, such questions, will not ask themselves, because the recruits are paid for "showing the muzzle", and not for "political views."
  19. +7
    30 November 2020 10: 04
    wonderful slogans of "revolutions", whatever they may be in their name and "color"
    ... So far, not a single so-called "color revolution" has proclaimed a single worthy slogan. Some representatives of the bourgeoisie change others and no more. What happens on the territory of the former USSR, the existing CIS is the consolidation of the collapse of the USSR and, in fact, the destruction of the CIS, so that even on the CIS platform, the former republics of the USSR could not create a military-economic union that could oppose the EU, NATO. The CIS exists de jure, but as a de facto, it can be buried. Like the other Union, Russia and Belarus. The EurAsEC is still shaking, but not for long. Unfortunately, the people forgot that the bourgeoisie, having achieved its goals, has always been a traitor to the interests of the people.
    1. +3
      30 November 2020 10: 37
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      So far, not a single so-called "color revolution" has proclaimed a single worthy slogan

      And that's not true.
      The guiding revolution in Kiev was under the slogan "America is with us".
      Although for the fools there was something else about independence, etc. mutually exclusive.
      The people killed police officers for "visa-free travel and lace panties", that is, for joining Europe, in order to change their status from "natives" to "golden billion".

      On the other hand, the alternative was to join Russia (albeit an imaginary one). But what's the point if our rulers themselves dream of "Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok."
      Another thing is that, as usual, the bandit foam surfaced. Bandera turned out to be the most organized fighters, and they led the process. At the same time, the main theme has not gone anywhere, loudly shouting about the hydration and independence, they do not hesitate to give "uncle" more and more, practically passing under external control. So the slogan was almost realized.
      1. +23
        30 November 2020 11: 40
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        The people killed police officers for "visa-free and lace panties", that is, for joining Europe

        sure? They began to be killed for the chaos they were doing. "Panties" were then
      2. +6
        30 November 2020 12: 11
        Tell me, how does visa-free travel, America is with us and so on affect the social formation of the state? Before the Maidan, Ukraine was bourgeois, capitalist. a nationalist state, after the Maidan it remained the same ..
  20. +1
    30 November 2020 10: 14
    In Russia, a revolution is impossible at the current time, the people are obedient and apolitical. As they say in personal affairs, "weak-willed".

    Funny.
    Even here they tell us for a long time that all the people, in general, are not needed. We need a bunch of active, motivated (i.e., brainwashed), not afraid to kill people.
    And the more obedient and apolitical the people are, the less this aggressive minority is needed.
    And yes, propaganda and agitation.
    Brainwashing is the revolutionary's best weapon. It is necessary to persuade the lower classes that they no longer "want".
    Moreover, the second necessary "the upper classes cannot," our authorities are constantly demonstrating.
  21. +1
    30 November 2020 10: 30
    In general, all the "color revolutions" both in the world and on the territory of the former USSR are arranged by the enemies of the communists, and they also unleash wars, and they also take territories away from each other. And the people always suffer.
    1. -2
      30 November 2020 10: 56
      And the communist revolutions organized by the communists - this must be assumed to be good, right.
      Probably during these revolutions no one died, nothing was destroyed, but strictly the opposite - everyone laughed happily, gave each other flowers, and sang songs?
      Oh yes. This is different.
      It's for the sake of justice, for the sake of universal happiness.
      Like there: "We will drive humanity into happiness with an iron hand!", "The forest is chopped - chips are flying.", And "Who is not with us is against us."
      This means that everyone who is not with you is at the root, without pity and compassion.
      This is not what I came up with.
      1. +1
        30 November 2020 11: 08
        ENOUGH already, enemies of the communists, to all accusations YOU, cowardly "turn arrows" on the communists. Learn to protect yourself.
        1. -2
          30 November 2020 11: 58
          We are not enemies of the communists.
          We are the enemies of the ideological wooden clowns, broadcasting about communism invented by them.
          1. +1
            30 November 2020 12: 01
            When you come up with at least something clever, answer, and your spiteful verbiage is already tired of me. It seems that you are just gaining the number of comments.
  22. +1
    30 November 2020 11: 03
    For me personally, this revolution did not give up! I have everything except health. With health it is my fault, the wrong way of life. For Putin's line I am ready to go to the barricades, minus. And in Sochi now +15 and the sun is shining. Life is good! I did not rob anyone, all with hands and head!
    1. +1
      30 November 2020 11: 55
      Well, yes, everyone who is for this Yeltsin-Putin power and the System, from officials and oligarchs to office plankton and priests, honestly earned everything that is why all of you and "now are better than in the USSR."
      1. +1
        30 November 2020 12: 17
        Yes, I earned honest work, 25 years of the North, more than 12,5 years of sea experience (clean sea). Yes, I didn’t have a family. But it’s provided now. Olympiad, Sirius project, what else do you need to meet a decent old age. Now, not a leader, enough At the Olympics, he waved his hand. Only after some time he weaned himself from the habit, his cell phone is always in his hand, even at night.
  23. 0
    30 November 2020 11: 09
    In August 1991, there was a black and white revolution?
    1. Fat
      +4
      30 November 2020 13: 04
      Quote: iouris
      In August 1991, there was a black and white revolution?

      Banal counter-revolution.
      Despite the fact that the Soviet bureaucracy prepared a lot for the bourgeois restoration, in the field of forms of ownership and methods of economy, the new regime should have made not a reform, but a social revolution.
  24. +3
    30 November 2020 12: 25
    As a rule, these revolutions do not take place from scratch. So I have no idea what to promise the people of Finland in order to bring them out into the streets against the authorities? The government does not steal there, the social system, medicine, education, one of the strongest in the world.
  25. 0
    30 November 2020 12: 58
    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
    ... Lego (Denmark) and IKEA (Sweden) are well known all over the world - they are private.

    Didn't IKEA leave the Swedish jurisdiction?
  26. -3
    30 November 2020 14: 54
    Color Revolution is the best way to lose territory

    the author is certainly not destined to grow wiser, but this is not required of him. And why .. All the same, they use the Internet as a head .. they eat in it. What they can and what they want.
    let's take the Russian term from Wiktionary
    mass opposition protests and non-violent actions that ultimately lead to a change of power in a particular country ◆
    According to the Russian picture of the world, the so-called “color revolutions” are not the result of the people's desire for democracy and prosperity, but a conspiracy on the part of the West. Anders Lindber
    while in the world the term itself is understood as a much more extended term.
    So in Russia there was also a "color revolution". And the last one was the Swamp Revolution.
    There were several in China. Last (Jasmine). In Hong Kong (Umbrella Revolution)
    So, from the list of countries with color revolutions, only a few have lost territories as a result of annexations.
    Which already calls into question the analyst of this article and the competence of the author. Or does he consider us incapable of opening the first site on "color revolutions" *?
    Again, the real reason for the PR of this particular version of the "color revolution" is banal.
    It is necessary to form a negative image of the change of power.
    Otherwise, why advertise only the cases of Ukraine / Moldavia / Armenia, the West did not annex their territories.
    Hong Kong Protesters Against Extradition Bill (2019-2020) - Full-fledged "Color Revolution"
    Even with "Western intervention" wassat
    The result is the cancellation of the bill.
    And this is China.
    The author is wrong. He did not even give statistics, and "NAUkrainevsehuzhe" is already an outdated image for Russian society not to change anything, otherwise it will be worse.
  27. +3
    30 November 2020 15: 12
    What a classic and by the time agitation .. You know, but the whole joke is that when the situation boils down to revolutions, whether colored or red and white, people frankly put all these conclusions on - they are just DO-ST-AE-T current "order" and current power. And the mind can no longer influence it - because people no longer see reason in those who, having power, brought everything to the handle. So there is only one conclusion - the turnover of power and elites, responsibility for the actions of those in power, both during life and after the end of their powers. Otherwise, all these phenomena will regularly occur - because this is not some kind of "whim" - this is a natural response to the mess.
  28. +1
    1 December 2020 11: 09
    A non-color revolution is also the surest way to lose territory.

    Friends capitalists, presidents for life, will happily grab whatever they can. Snipers on the roofs and security forces will immediately appear, and the media will explain that this is not a loss, but a straightening. Shelf or river boundaries ...
  29. 0
    1 December 2020 16: 54
    SO, IT, BUT ...
    Who will solve the problems of ordinary people ... ???
    "Color revolution" is a euphemism for a coup d'etat. Everything else is a matter of technology. It is impossible not to mention that gentlemen and ladies partners prepared excellently.
  30. 0
    1 December 2020 19: 21
    It would be very nice that each of those who are faced with calls to take part in the next "protests" - it does not matter, in Minsk, Moscow, Bishkek or somewhere else, would begin by asking himself the question: "With which part of your Homeland I am offered to say goodbye forever? "

    In this case, the question to the author and everyone else is how to consider and name the "event" in August 1991 at the White House with barricades, and Yeltsin on the armor of a tank, after which the country collapsed and parted with such a part of the territory that it is still how long do the citizens of these parts of the empire feel? And did those who organized that "get-together" on the Krasnopresnenskaya embankment of the Moskva River, whose main leader are worshiped with such touching constancy, asked themselves this question? That's where the author, in my opinion, should probably start. sad
  31. 0
    1 December 2020 19: 34
    Quote: Hunter 2
    Very correct conclusion of the author hi !
    What we actually saw on examples ... it's good that strangers.

    Why are they strangers? Moscow set an example. It all started with a rally at the "White House" on Krasnopresnenskaya embankment in August 1991, all the signs of "Maidan" were obvious - barricades, Yeltsin on the armor of a tank, boxes of vodka that were promptly delivered to the scene, calls from Yeltsin and his closest associates in US Embassy, ​​what are you still missing to confirm that Moscow has set an example for the rest of the republics? sad
  32. 0
    1 December 2020 21: 57
    Just now there was another anniversary of the Nuremberg Tribunal. I think we need one over the organizers of color revolutions - it can be carried out in Belgrade, Tbilisi, Tripoli, Kiev ... Gina Sharpa is already, I hope, the devils are boiling in the next world, but Shoosh can still be obtained in this world. ...
  33. -1
    2 December 2020 01: 31
    Yes, I was always amazed at these supporters of the "position", well, for example, in bulk. They clearly realize that these "revolutionaries" - Saakashvili, Navalny, Yavlinsky, Yushchenko - are absolutely clearly a FOREIGN political project. They are aware of this, moreover. they are proud of it. Attention, the question - why should ANOTHER state, in principle, do anything to improve life, not at home, but at you? In Georgia, Ukraine or Russia ?! Basically - why? That is, the activities of Saakashvili, Navalny or Tymoshenko - in principle, nothing good can bring the country! In principle, and in its own juice!
  34. 0
    4 December 2020 18: 19
    You will first understand the definitions. Do not hang stereotypes about protests within the framework of color revolutions on Belarus. It's one thing Syria or Libya. We have a man for 26 years holding on to power with blue fingers, what does the color revolution have to do with it? And now, as part of this struggle, he kills, rapes and tortures his fellow countrymen ... You have very broad views on everything. Read Russian newspapers less, as Professor Preobrazhensky said, and don't watch Russian television. Then you won't write such nonsense.