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Turkey comments on Ukraine's readiness to order a new batch of Bayraktar-TB2 UAVs

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The Turkish media are actively covering the statements of the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Ruslan Khomchak. We are talking about his words about the new purchases of Turkish attack drones "Bayraktar".


According to the Ukrainian commander-in-chief, they intend to purchase at least five more Turkish Bayraktar-TB2 drones for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. It was noted that Ukraine plans to receive these shock drones in 2021.

In the Turkish press, commenting on the plans of the AFUJ, they say that such a request from Kiev came in connection with the fact that "the high quality and high efficiency of Turkish-made unmanned systems was appreciated in Ukraine." It was added that in 2019, Ukraine acquired 6 Bayraktar-TB2 UAVs and several ground control stations for them.

In Turkey, they say about deepening military-technical cooperation with Ukraine, and in Ukraine, in turn, they talk about the continuation of the transition of the Ukrainian army to NATO standards. One of these standards is precisely the use of unmanned systems for solving certain tasks that are assigned to the units of the armed forces.

It should be noted that in Ukraine they started talking more actively about the possible use of the Bayraktar-TB2 UAV after the events in Nagorno-Karabakh. Especially the "hotheads" suggest using them "for the return of Donbass to Ukraine."

Meanwhile, there is evidence that flights of the UAV "Bayraktar", belonging to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are increasingly carried out on the southern borders of Ukraine - not far from the Russian Crimea. So, just a few days ago, the Armed Forces used Bayraktar-TB2 south of Nikolaev. The Armed Forces of Ukraine declare to increase the practical experience of operators of Turkish drones.
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  1. Equalized
    Equalized 27 November 2020 10: 07
    +11
    Khomchak said that they will buy 5 COMPLEXES "Bayraktar" and not five drones. One complex includes 3 to 4 "Bayraktar" and a control station.
    Under Poroshenko, 2 complexes were purchased, a total of 6 drones.

    So Khomchak says at least 15 additional.

    1. nnm
      nnm 27 November 2020 10: 11
      +1
      Excuse me, where did you find the words about kits?
      Here is a direct speech:
      "- The decision has already been praised and it is planned that 5 new Bayraktar will be purchased for the future needs of the Ukrainian Forces.
      1. Equalized
        Equalized 27 November 2020 10: 18
        +5
        At the expense of the complexes

        https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/dlya-zsu-zakuplyat-p-yat-kompleksiv-bayraktar/

        In general, the Ukrainians declared that next year they would take complexes even before Khomchak's statement. The plan was voiced in general to have 12 bayraktar complexes and at least 36-40 UAVs, respectively.
        1. nnm
          nnm 27 November 2020 10: 20
          +2
          Thanks. I see. Although, to be honest, I don’t remember such a purchase item in the military budget. But there would be a desire, if they set themselves a goal, they would buy, of course, and deploy.
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 27 November 2020 10: 33
            +12
            and in Ukraine, in turn, they talk about the continued transition of the Ukrainian army to NATO standards. One of these standards is precisely the use of unmanned systems for solving certain problems,

            What does "NATO standards" have to do with it? Do they like the phrase, do they self-orgasm like that?
            Outside NATO, do they think that unmanned systems are not being used? Goyets
            1. Mitroha
              Mitroha 27 November 2020 10: 44
              +1
              Minus Khomchak personally? Or his deputy? laughing
              1. krot
                krot 27 November 2020 11: 38
                +2
                These Turkish airplanes are dangerous. But I think our solution for this problem has already been found and will provide it for the LDNR.
                1. figwam
                  figwam 27 November 2020 12: 16
                  -1
                  Quote: krot
                  Dangerous Turkish airplanes

                  When the control station is destroyed, it will be just scrap metal.
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 27 November 2020 15: 10
                    -2
                    Quote: figvam
                    When the control station is destroyed, it will be just scrap metal

                    Even with a control station (if desired, you can control it from anywhere). I have repeated and will repeat that all these "newfangled bells and whistles", in the form of shock drones, are good only against the aborigines, armies such as Armenia and in peacetime. Against a technologically advanced enemy, with a developed air defense and electronic warfare system, these are just convenient targets. so let Ukraine buy at least a thousand who are afraid of them.
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 27 November 2020 19: 20
                      +4
                      Quantity - it matters.
                      But they will not have enough money for either 1000 or 200.
                      And this is good.
                    2. Mini Mokik
                      Mini Mokik 27 November 2020 19: 27
                      +1
                      I think that there is more air defense and electronic warfare per unit area in Crimea and its environs than anywhere else. Even in Kaliningrad it is probably quieter. I am sure that there will not be any serious problems with litakas. And shit, Ukrainians can throw shovels on the fan with their bare hands.

                      I remember Zhirik with statements - "To arrange a dump of radioactive waste at the Latvian border and to drive air from there to Latvia with large fans."

                      This is exactly what the Ukrainians are capable of. winked
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 27 November 2020 14: 40
                  -1
                  They are powerless against fighters. From the territory of Russia, the entire airspace on the LPNR is closed by radar, all drones will be at a glance.
                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock 27 November 2020 14: 42
                    +23
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    From the territory of Russia, the entire airspace on the LPNR is closed by radar, all drones will be at a glance.

                    sure?
                    Well, you can see, then what? Shoot on the territory of a foreign country? This is not with a friend of Obama and Colonel Trump, you can get problems at the international level
                    1. Maikcg
                      Maikcg 27 November 2020 19: 52
                      +1
                      And what about this? Look at Israel, what problems did it get by shooting on the territory of a foreign state? No, I certainly remember that this is something else to understand! But in general it is not a problem, you can make a data transmission channel for the air situation, and the locals will shoot. With drones, it is difficult to see, they are small, but if you know where to look when the big brother gives a hint, then it's a matter of technology, which the north wind will blow.
                  2. Alexey G
                    Alexey G 28 November 2020 10: 11
                    0
                    So there is a strong opinion that the radar sees them poorly! That they are made of plastic! If this is true, then ground-based radars will not detect them, and onboard ones from a fighter, and even more so!
                    If so, then only visual contact remains, and this is an accident, not a necessity!
          2. Machito
            Machito 28 November 2020 18: 15
            0
            It is high time for NM LDNR to think about "purchases" of electronic warfare equipment and Armor from Russia.
    2. Civil
      Civil 27 November 2020 10: 13
      -9
      We need to break the deal, put pressure on our friend Rajap,
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 27 November 2020 10: 33
        +2
        These are the ones - the space power can't tune its drones! what
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 November 2020 11: 03
          0
          What power are you writing about?
          And it looks like something ambiguous ...
          1. bessmertniy
            bessmertniy 27 November 2020 11: 07
            +8
            About Ukraine. It cannot part with the Soviet times, when it was both space and nuclear. What did you think? hi
            1. Avior
              Avior 27 November 2020 11: 18
              -1
              I thought so
              hi
      2. Cympak
        Cympak 27 November 2020 11: 30
        +6
        Nevermind. In connection with the use of drones in the Karabakh conflict, Canada refused to supply 3 key components for the Bayraktar: engines, an aiming station and a GPS navigation complex
      3. Nychego
        Nychego 27 November 2020 13: 36
        -3
        Quote: Civil
        put pressure on friend Rajap

        Oh, to scare him that if something goes wrong, then we will instantly cut off the Russian flow and Turkish gas will not be able to flow through Russia to Europe. laughing
        There is a little bit on the other side of the testicle between the door and the jamb, which is why you have to forgive Erdi's "friend" at least four knives stuck in the back, and now an unprecedented one since 1877: a Turkish soldier with weapons on the territory that was part of Russia.
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 27 November 2020 14: 20
          +2
          They smiled. Where did you get this nonsense?
          Quote: Nychego
          at least four knives stuck in the back

          Quote: Nychego
          Turkish soldier with weapons on the territory that was part of Russia.
          1. Nychego
            Nychego 27 November 2020 14: 31
            +2
            Four knives:
            - Karlov;
            - Drying;
            - Libya;
            - Artsakh-Karabakh.

            In the Caucasian company of the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-78, already in the fall of 1877, there were no Turkish troops left in the Russian Transcaucasia.

            And where is the nonsense?
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 27 November 2020 15: 04
              +1
              Quote: Nychego
              And where is the nonsense?

              Everywhere.
              Quote: Nychego
              - Karlov;

              He was killed by a terrorist, not the state.
              Quote: Nychego
              Libya;

              Just mega nonsense. We do not support anyone there. Do you understand the meaning of the expression "stab in the back" or do you just sculpt just to carry something ?! Initially, we tried to seat them at the negotiating table.
              Quote: Nychego
              - Artsakh-Karabakh.

              Oh how. Another nonsense. You don't seem to know exactly what the expression "stab in the back" means. NKR what is our territory? Or did Armenia itself recognize its independence? Or did we have our troops there, which Turkey attacked? Our two partners once again unleashed a war and we managed to end the bloodshed.
              Quote: Nychego
              In the Caucasian company of the Russian-Turkish war of 1877-78, already in the fall of 1877, there were no Turkish troops left in the Russian Transcaucasia.

              What are you? Wake up man. It's 2020. Azerbaijan has been independent for 29 years.
              Therefore, you don't need to carry this nonsense:
              Quote: Nychego
              Turkish soldier with weapons on the territory that was part of Russia.
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    3. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 27 November 2020 11: 11
      +2
      There is always a bolt with a propeller on a cunning support, including a Turkish one. Now not a single plane, helicopter, or even a UAV flies in Karabakh. The same will happen in Donbass if they start nasty.
    4. vkl.47
      vkl.47 27 November 2020 11: 57
      -2
      When they kill people and comrades in eastern Ukraine, this ironic smirk will disappear right away. Armenians also thought that Azerbaijanis would not be able to do anything in the end, almost the whole of Karabakh is not about ... if not for Russia.
    5. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 27 November 2020 12: 05
      0
      One "bayraktar" in Starokonstantinov has already been ditched. The Ministry of Defense of Banderland has already cut the budget by almost half a yard of "greenery" for which very expensive equipment will be purchased. And will Turkey be able to produce "bayraktars" taking into account the sanctions?
    6. lucul
      lucul 27 November 2020 12: 08
      +4
      Khomchak said that they will buy 5 COMPLEXES "Bayraktar" and not five drones.

      New fetish? Before that, there was Javelin, but he could not take the Donbass.
      Now new mriya about Bayraktar who can liberate Donbass))))
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 27 November 2020 19: 27
        +1
        And he does not undertake to free Donbass.
        For which Khomchak has as many as 3 reasons.
        Third: Russia will intervene and break.
        The first two need not be listed.
        Bayraktars are an imitation of activity.
  2. nnm
    nnm 27 November 2020 10: 12
    +7
    Yes, the Beiraktars are not so terrible as the bad, hotheads in Ukraine, who believe that they will be able to arrange the NKR from the LPR.
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 27 November 2020 10: 16
      +11
      Quote: nnm
      Yes, the Beiraktars are not so terrible as the bad, hotheads in Ukraine, who believe that they will be able to arrange the NKR from the LPR.

      But they can try. And Donbass will have a hard time ...
      1. nnm
        nnm 27 November 2020 10: 17
        +3
        This is the main problem. That very quickly such attempts can lead to a hot phase. The good news is that so far Ukraine has few UAVs. As well as money. But the military budget is constantly inflated. Even now, during the crisis, they added 10%.
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 27 November 2020 10: 19
          +5
          Quote: nnm
          the military budget is constantly inflated. Even now, during the crisis, they added 10%.

          SPONSORS will help
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 27 November 2020 14: 23
            +2
            Quote: BDRM 667
            SPONSORS will help

            Well, only if on credit and then hardly. Now there is a big hole in the budget of Ukraine, and the IMF does not want to allocate money after the recent events.
            1. BDRM 667
              BDRM 667 27 November 2020 14: 24
              +3
              Quote: CSKA
              Well, only if on credit and then hardly. Now there is a big hole in the budget of Ukraine, and the IMF does not want to allocate money after the recent events.

              The Pentagon's budget is independent from the IMF.
              1. CSKA
                CSKA 27 November 2020 14: 25
                0
                Quote: BDRM 667
                The Pentagon's budget is independent from the IMF.

                ))))) It is unlikely that they will be additionally allocated. We'll see.
                1. BDRM 667
                  BDRM 667 27 November 2020 14: 26
                  +3
                  Quote: CSKA
                  ))))) It is unlikely that they will be additionally allocated.

                  Will TARGET justifying FACILITIES - will highlight.
      2. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 27 November 2020 11: 26
        +3
        Quote: BDRM 667
        But they can try.

        As I already wrote, under another article on this topic ... To repeat "NKR", ukroine need the help of a third person. And take into account the fact that in case of the intervention of the 3th person it will not be Armenia.
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 27 November 2020 10: 17
      +2
      Who will let them arrange the NKR there? Or, according to the classics, who will he plant a monument to? The Turks have found gullible people who can get their Bayraktars dear for their price.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 12: 45
        0
        69 million dollars for 6 Bayraktars, control stations and 200 TSA. This is the price of the Ukrainian deal.
        1. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 27 November 2020 13: 08
          +4
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          69 million dollars for 6 Bayraktars, control stations and 200 TSA. This is the price of the Ukrainian deal.

          Just ? Is this the price of peremogy over Donbass?

          And as Duremar the leech seller said - "Donbass Our Golden Key"?

    3. parma
      parma 27 November 2020 10: 17
      +4
      Quote: nnm
      Yes, the Beiraktars are not so terrible as the bad, hotheads in Ukraine, who believe that they will be able to arrange the NKR from the LPR.

      The Armenians also recently shouted that they are not afraid of shock UAVs ... Are you sure that the air defense of the LPNR is much better than in the NKR?
      1. nnm
        nnm 27 November 2020 10: 19
        +8
        I am sure that the words about considering the issue of statehood in relation to Ukraine were not said in vain.
      2. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 27 November 2020 10: 19
        +2
        Are you sure that the LDNR's air defense is much better than that of the NKR?

        Have you forgotten about the plane crash in 2014, why are you asking such questions?
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 27 November 2020 10: 35
          +3
          This is exactly the case when Ukraine is trying to step on the same rake for the second time. negative
          1. Orange bigg
            Orange bigg 27 November 2020 10: 38
            +3
            To be sure to be killed and not suffer.
        2. parma
          parma 27 November 2020 11: 18
          -4
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          Are you sure that the LDNR's air defense is much better than that of the NKR?

          Have you forgotten about the plane crash in 2014, why are you asking such questions?

          Well, during the first war for Karabakh, no less aircraft of the Azerbaijani Air Force were shot down ... aircraft and helicopters are generally much more vulnerable to air defense than UAVs ...
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 27 November 2020 14: 24
            0
            Quote: parma
            aircraft and helicopters are generally much more vulnerable to air defense than uavs

            How are planes vulnerable?
            1. parma
              parma 27 November 2020 19: 59
              +1
              Quote: CSKA
              Quote: parma
              aircraft and helicopters are generally much more vulnerable to air defense than uavs

              How are planes vulnerable?

              Higher speed, erp, altitude, thermal signature, no? Apparently, the small drones of the Babakhs create (including us) more problems in Syria than the strikes of Israel, and they are collected from improvised trash ... LDNR (at this glance) will only save our intervention from repeating the fate of the NKR .. .will the relevant big people go to the question ...
      3. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 12: 46
        +1
        Quote: parma
        Are you sure that the LDNR's air defense is much better than that of the NKR?


        I'm sure it will arrive there at H
        1. Alexey G
          Alexey G 28 November 2020 10: 32
          0
          Will arrive! Is it possible to be sure that our most reliable air defense will work against the UAV there?
      4. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 12: 48
        +1
        The Armenians were too lazy, as it turns out, even to study the book of the 50s about the rules for the construction of field fortifications and their camouflage on the ground ... Did you sincerely believe that the result would be different?
  3. Equalized
    Equalized 27 November 2020 10: 22
    +1
    Polygon wide lan yesterday. We practiced bayraktars + strike aviation in support of the offensive of the mechanized brigade





    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 27 November 2020 10: 29
      +2
      Have you mustered the strength for a new boiler?
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 27 November 2020 14: 47
        +33
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Have you mustered the strength for a new boiler?

        conceit and fanaberism will not lead to good
        1. Alexey G
          Alexey G 28 November 2020 10: 37
          0
          Javelins are obviously heavy! The soldiers are barely pulling suitcases with missiles! The Americans didn’t give us a pancake!
    2. Reviews
      Reviews 27 November 2020 10: 29
      +9
      Quote: Equalized
      Polygon wide lan yesterday. We practiced bayraktars + strike aviation in support of the offensive of the mechanized brigade

      But this sucks ...
    3. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 27 November 2020 11: 05
      +3
      Su-25 are flying beautifully ... Probably to the parade? wink I wonder if the S-400 missile fires in the middle, will fill up all 4? what
      1. Alexey G
        Alexey G 28 November 2020 10: 39
        0
        Duck Ukrainians hope to first strangle the C400 with a harpy! And then fly like a parade! wink
  4. Reviews
    Reviews 27 November 2020 10: 28
    -2
    commenting on the plans of ALL

    Stop typing drunk so you don't miss the keys.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 27 November 2020 10: 33
      +1
      APU Ukraine means APU? In the American way, so to speak?
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 27 November 2020 11: 07
        +1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        APU Ukraine means APU?

        I mean, Foolish. laughing
      2. Reviews
        Reviews 27 November 2020 11: 12
        -2
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        APU Ukraine means APU? In the American way, so to speak?

        Well no. Afftyr, pressing "shift", wanted to dial a comma, but missed the drunk and pressed "Yu".
  5. Antifreeze
    Antifreeze 27 November 2020 10: 32
    +17
    UAV flights "Bayraktar" belonging to the Armed Forces of Ukraine are increasingly carried out on the southern borders of Ukraine - not far from the Russian Crimea

    Eh, Ukrainians ... History does not teach people anything fool
  6. Yujanin
    Yujanin 27 November 2020 10: 53
    -9
    Friends, how are things in the LDNR?
    Quiet calm?
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 27 November 2020 11: 04
      +4
      Quote: Yujanin
      Friends, how are things in the LDNR?
      Quiet calm?

      do not wait.
      1. Yujanin
        Yujanin 27 November 2020 13: 04
        0

        do not wait.

        Why should I?
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 27 November 2020 11: 20
      -6
      Quote: Yujanin
      Friends, how are things in the LDNR?
      Quiet calm?

      Read Strelkov's last interview
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 12: 51
        0
        Quote: Silvestr
        Strelkov read


        Why, let him better explain how he served in the FSB that he had three titles in a row ahead of schedule ... And there were also questions about his "track record" ...
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 27 November 2020 16: 48
          0
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          Why, let him better explain how he served in the FSB

          What does it matter to what he did and what he says?
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 22: 48
            +1
            Direct. The one who lied once has no faith.
      2. Yujanin
        Yujanin 27 November 2020 13: 04
        -1

        Read Strelkov's last interview

        You can link, pliz!
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 27 November 2020 20: 59
          0
          Quote: Yujanin
          You can link, pliz!

          https://glavred.info/ukraine/dnr-i-lnr-budut-razgromleny-strelkov-ocenil-gotovnost-donbassa-k-blickrigu-vsu-novosti-ukrainy-10225400.html

          https://www.politnavigator.net/strelkov-gotovitsya-odnovremennyjj-udar-po-donbassu-i-pridnestrovyu.html
  7. deniso
    deniso 27 November 2020 10: 58
    +1
    It seemed to me that the article was inaccurate - not to sell drones to Ukraine, but to give it back. Where did the Turks see that the Ukrainians were paying for their obligations? Perhaps with joy if 12 billion of "their" euros are squeezed out of Europe.
  8. askort154
    askort154 27 November 2020 11: 02
    0
    Arriving from England, Zelensky the next day, rushed to Erdogan.
    As a result, Turkey allocates 36 mln. dollars to Ukraine for its defense.
    For the purchase of Turkish UAVs and the organization of joint production, to replace expensive Canadian engines with cheap Ukrainian ones. Now ukrokhly "bykuyut", threatening Donbass, not realizing that all their UAV control points are already under control, and at the beginning of a serious war, they will be destroyed in the first place.
    1. Cympak
      Cympak 27 November 2020 11: 32
      +1
      The Ukrainians do not have ready-made engines for Bayraktars. They have turboprop engines for heavier UAVs.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 27 November 2020 11: 55
      +4
      UAV control points


      It's a truck. To shoot him, either the Aerospace Forces must engage or have their own attack UAVs with loitering in the intended areas.




      And I’m already silent that the new TV2s come with a satellite module, where you can control TV4 over Donetsk from Antalya through Turksat2a. wink
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 12: 53
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        or have your own drone UAVs


        It is enough to have reconnaissance small UAVs in order to then organize the arrival of an OTBR with a cluster warhead ...
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 27 November 2020 13: 22
          +3
          Then - here is a mistake. Then there will be nothing. We worked it out and changed our position. Of course, this is being violated en masse. But as soon as it arrives once, the change of positions will be performed constantly.

          Therefore, either videoconferencing or attack UAVs / UAVs with the possibility of immediate defeat by illumination.
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 14: 53
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            Then - here's a mistake.


            If then fits into the interval of 3-4 minutes, which is achievable, for example, in the presence of brigade automated control systems of AO - then they will not have time to escape anywhere

            shock UAVs / UAVs

            Come on, so I imagine Bayraktar trying to hit the battle formations somewhere covered by Buk, for example.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 27 November 2020 17: 24
              +4
              Here in the NKR they also laughed. We thought to shoot them down with Dozens of arrows. But it turned out a little differently. And even the electronic warfare, Tor and S-300 stations did not help, but they were carried out.

              If you use beeches, then yes. But if there are more or less on the other side, then it is quite possible to endure the beech with combined actions. However, do not forget the basis of the air defense of the people's militias - Strela-10. This is practically completely useless in theory.


              In total, isolated areas with Buks, even if they hold on, the main parts will start to nightmare in the style of the war in Karabakh.
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 22: 41
                +1
                Quote: donavi49
                then the main parts will start to nightmare in the style of the war in Karabakh.

                So the Ukrainians, obviously, cannot defend themselves in the same way ...
                And I don't see a problem to make a nightmare of the Ukrainian army with only small-class reconnaissance drones with proper organization of artillery. Explain to me how critical the difference is if, for example, the Ukrainian Bayraktar found a target, then the operator decided to use bombs and If the target was found by Aileron, and then a battery of howitzers made several volleys at the target?

                Quote: donavi49
                Here in the NKR they also laughed.

                They are illiterate, and if they could not dig trenches correctly, what could they talk about there?

                Quote: donavi49
                We thought to shoot them down with Dozens of arrows.

                The materiel must be taught properly.

                Quote: donavi49
                And even the electronic warfare, Tor and S-300 stations did not help, but they were carried out.

                The Internet does not know about the shooting of the Armenian S-300 !!! Thor - the only one killed was used simply obscenely and idiotically. Is the Armenian army generally aware of how to properly organize combat training? That air defense missile systems should be fired once every 1 years. As far as I remember, the naval PRS.
  9. mark_rod
    mark_rod 27 November 2020 11: 07
    -7
    Quote: nnm
    I am sure that the words about considering the issue of statehood in relation to Ukraine were not said in vain.

    Somewhere it already happened .... Ah! "You won't get off with tomatoes!" When was the last time menacing words turned into deeds?
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 27 November 2020 11: 18
      -6
      We didn't get off like that. So everything is fine.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 November 2020 11: 09
    0
    "hotheads" propose to use them "to return Donbass to Ukraine"
    "Hotheads" in Ukraine say a lot. Of course, they will use it if necessary differently for what they bought. I am a little surprised that when deciding on the supply of arms by Turkey, the Ukrainian side has not yet said that they are more Turks than Slavs, and therefore "one people" and help should be at a discount.
  11. iouris
    iouris 27 November 2020 11: 57
    -4
    I wonder if Aliyev has already paid or should he? How much should you?
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 27 November 2020 12: 54
      +1
      Aliyev has already forgiven his brother Recep for everything that he once owed him.
  12. Ivan Kozulin
    Ivan Kozulin 27 November 2020 17: 22
    -4
    We will see how the drones are burning and at the same time we will update the fleet of tanks, t72 will be burned like in Karabakh
  13. spectr
    spectr 27 November 2020 19: 26
    0
    Now the UAV, and then, when needed, more mercenaries from Syria / Libya to drive.
  14. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 27 November 2020 19: 51
    -1
    and on what shishi ??? hicks !!!
  15. Andrey Kirilenko_2
    Andrey Kirilenko_2 28 November 2020 09: 28
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    All this is interesting, but the most important thing is where to get money for these toys.
    1. Alexey G
      Alexey G 28 November 2020 11: 12
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      Ha! So Bree dances will get an ass for these dances, and here the Baydans will help!