Former head of Zelensky's office called May 9 "a great funeral" and said that veterans were "not proud of this day"

The network is actively discussing the statements of the ex-head of the office of the President of Ukraine. We are talking about the statements of Andrey Bogdan in an interview with Ksenia Sobchak.

Perhaps the most actively discussed in Russia and Ukraine are the words of Bogdan, addressed through Sobchak to the President of the Russian Federation. Andrei Bogdan suggested that Vladimir Putin "take a step back." According to Bogdan, this will be associated with victory, with a strong state. This statement was made by the ex-head of Zelensky's office in relation to the Minsk agreements, which Kiev is going to rewrite once again. Earlier, many Ukrainian officials stated that the “clauses of the agreement” should be “swapped” or abandoned altogether. Quite recently, Leonid Kravchuk, the head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group, said something similar.

Bogdan made other statements that attract special attention. For example, he commented on the celebration (or rather, non-celebration) in Ukraine on May 9.

Ksenia Sobchak asked a former high-ranking Ukrainian official if he thinks that May 9 should be celebrated with a parade and fireworks. The question itself looks like a provocation.

And this is the answer of Mr. Bogdan:

Do you consider the funeral a great celebration?

Further, Bogdan said that he had talked with the veterans and that they had told him that they were not proud of May 9, since "it is a tragedy for them."

Here Mr. Bogdan did not specify with which “veterans” he spoke, for whom May 9 was a “tragedy”. Apparently, with those who were defeated in the Great Patriotic War - for example, the Bandera accomplices of the Nazis.

Sobchak noted that she was personally proud of the fact that Soviet troops defeated the Nazis.

Sobchak:

And isn't that a point of reconciliation?

Bogdan retorted with such a statement: "Then let's be proud of the fact that we fought together against the Mongol-Tatar yoke."

These answers vividly reflect the entire modern political situation in Ukraine - to transform the great history into a farce, and make heroes out of crooks.

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[Thrall]

This six Kolomoisky clearly communicated with UPA veterans.
And a little about the funeral:

in 1959, an agent of the KGB of the USSR Bogdan Stashinsky eliminated OUN leader S. Bandera

[Svarog]

He was referring to the veterans who served the Nazis .. thereby identifying himself as a Nazi. Strangely, some Jews react to the results of the Second World War .. It really surprises me, so many compatriots burned in the stoves .. forgot to see.

[matross]

Quote: Svarog

Some Jews react strangely

And what have the Jews to do with it?

[Svarog]

Quote: matRoss

Quote: Svarog

Some Jews react strangely

And what have the Jews to do with it?

Zelensky is a Jew, his boss is also a Jew .. I mean Kolomoisky ..

[boris epstein]

And the better were the predecessors - purebred velikokry - Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yushchenko, Lazarenko, Grinev, Tigipko, two Shcherbanya, Shpek, Shpig, Taruta, Yaroslavsky, two Surkis ...? You can't list them all, their name is legion. It’s just great ukraine, a contagious disease worse than the coronavirus. And he beats without understanding the nationality.

[krot]

The roof of this crumb was blown off completely. Then Putin advises, with the filing of Sobchak, some crazy steps back, now about May 9 .. This is a holiday of a great victory for us, not Bandera!

[Gene84]

They are no better than today's "president" of Ukraine ... All of them, without exception, are Russophobes.

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Svarog

Zelensky is a Jew, his boss is also a Jew .. I mean Kolomoisky ..

adjacent threads authoritatively declares that they are enemies.
I don't know who to listen to - Apukhin or you ...
Which one of you is right if all Zelensky's actions were against the "Boss"
Rather, Apukhin is right here.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I don't understand how you can Really to discuss the delirium of the next're coming out ... a fool who was accidentally brought upstairs. This can only be done by Sobchachka and the like!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: matRoss

Quote: Svarog

Some Jews react strangely

And what have the Jews to do with it?

Aren't Jews at the head of Ukraine? Poroshenko Valtsman, Tymoshenko -Kapitelman, all these Zelenskiy and Kolomoisky

[credo]

Quote: Svarog

He was referring to the veterans who served the Nazis .. thereby identifying himself as a Nazi. Strangely, some Jews react to the results of the Second World War .. It really surprises me, so many compatriots burned in the stoves .. forgot to see.

After the collapse of the USSR, Ukrainian politics is a complete rabble, of all stripes and nationalities, and Jews are no exception in this regard.
If anyone has forgotten, it is worth recalling how Zelensky, a purebred Jew, while not yet the president of Ukraine, traveled to Donbass to the location of the Nazis and called for the destruction of all those who did not accept the coup.
And the same Jew, but on the other side of the Ukrainian border, Marovetsky from Poland, looks quite calmly at the local Polish Natsiks, whose ancestors, among other things, almost without exception brought the Jews of Poland out of the pre-war and war period.
So what is there to be surprised if the favorite of the liberals of Russia and other countries of the world, Soros, being an ethnic Jew, pits different aborigines of the same country against each other with great pleasure and material benefit and at the same time has no remorse.
To suspect all Jews that they are all pathological anti-fascists is to make a big mistake. Examples are given above.

[Svarog]

Quote: credo

To suspect all Jews that they are all pathological anti-fascists is to make a big mistake. Examples are given above.

I don’t suspect everyone, all of course are different, even Jews, even Russian .. BUT in this issue there should be unity, that's what surprises.

[credo]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: credo

To suspect all Jews that they are all pathological anti-fascists is to make a big mistake. Examples are given above.

I don’t suspect everyone, all of course are different, even Jews, even Russian .. BUT in this issue there should be unity, that's what surprises.

What's so surprising? After the coup in the government and parliament of Ukraine there were and are a large number of representatives of this nation, and at the same time none of them protest against stopping the war in Donbass and stopping the plundering and impoverishment of the country.
But this is particular. And if you take the representatives of the same nation on a global scale, then the same Rothschilds, Rockefellers and others like them, in the days of Nazi Germany, and now do not hesitate to enrich themselves on blood and wars. But there is still a solid stratum of Jews of lower rank, who do not at all shy away from making money for all sorts of military conflicts, although they would seem to have to bypass receiving such money.
It turns out that business and the political pedestal do not have moral remorse.

[Gene84]

Quote: credo

business and political pedestal have no moral compunction

Business, like politics, in the modern world is built on fraud and deception.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: credo

To suspect all Jews that they are all pathological anti-fascists

That is, the Jews are the main fascists, destroying entire nations with someone else's hands?

[Normal ok]

Quote: Svarog

He meant the veterans who.

He's just a high-ranking troll.

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Normal ok

He's just a high-ranking troll.

This is EX a high-ranking official.

earlier, Volodymyr Zelenskyy called his decision to appoint Bogdan the head of the OPU wrong. Thus, Bogdan worked in this position for only 9 months.
The head of state said that Bogdan gradually became a conflict person. According to him, he decided to fire Bogdan when he noticed that "the authorities are eating him up, as if they will eat him, and everything will end very badly."

And he left the country. Pay attention to where they are now. (I will tell you, look at the creation of Isidore of Miletsky and Anthimius of Trallsky. Well, Trdat with Gaspare and Giuseppe Fossati). And in the video they name this country.
It is incorrect to call him even a troll. He is a private person, even to Ukraine and its politics, he has nothing to do with it.
It's a shame that his words are being awarded to Ukraine itself, although he was fired just for such "trolls"

[Kisa]

hmmm, beloved here on VO, Stalin canceled the May 9 holiday three years after the Victory and did not celebrate until the 65th year ... it is difficult to accuse him of Banderaism ...
I have heard an interesting parallel since 1814 - when our soldiers reached Paris and were impressed with their standard of living from here, and the Decembrist fermentations happened. then ours again came 130 years later to east Prussia and were again shocked by their life ... hence Stalin thought there was nothing to provoke ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: kitty

canceled the holiday on May 9 three years after the Victory and did not celebrate until the 65th year ...

Forgot November 7? Celebrated every year. And May 9 was celebrated only on anniversaries.

[Terenin]

We are talking about the statements of A. Bogdan in an interview with K. Sobchak.

I am also drawn to speak out on these two defendants, on ... minimum - a year of ban

[Tatyana Pershina]

Quote: Terenin

I am also drawn to speak out on these two defendants

Should I get my tongue dirty?

[Terenin]

Quote: Tatyana Pershina

Quote: Terenin

I am also drawn to speak out on these two defendants

Should I get my tongue dirty?

Really

[AshPoseidon]

... in Ukraine, the words of Bogdan, addressed through Sobchak, are being discussed

... Is that what they or she do with a specialist. Or maybe this is Sobchak's point of view expressed through Bogdan. Into the furnace ..

[Gene84]

Quote: Terenin

for these two defendants, on winked ... at least a year of ban

Better to send them, Bogdanov and Sobchak, to a ban (prison) for a couple of three years.

[Thrifty]

Idiot, what else to say about him! There, everyone who is in power with a brain defect, he has gone into himself irrevocably. ..

[fruc]

.... We are talking about the statements of Andrey Bogdan in an interview with Ksenia Sobchak .....

Who else could be given such an interview if not K. Sobchak. He said what they wanted to hear from him. She is an ex-candidate for the presidency of the Russian Federation, for Western values ​​!!!!!

[Orange bigg]

Forgive me, what are mythical Western values? For all good versus all bad?

Former head of Zelensky's office called May 9 "a great funeral" and said that veterans were "not proud of this day"

So everything is true. The Nazis lost the war, so for them and their accomplices this is not a holiday, but a funeral. For normal people, all those who stood on the right side of history, this is a holiday.

[fruc]

I understand Western values ​​as the level and style of life at which there, beyond the hill, it would be good and happy, but this would not concern us. For us it is to drive raw materials and resources over the same hillock and lay down the life of Russian soldiers when it becomes dashing there. It turns out that we are now living according to "Western values".

[Gene84]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Excuse me, what are mythical Western values?

Moral and life principles that are being transformed into the norms and rules of life for people in the West (spiritual, political, social and economic values), which in some places contradict our Russian values. Western values ​​are intended to integrate European society, to create a single moral and cultural space as opposed to Russia and Slavic culture.

[syndicalist]

Quote: frruc

She is an ex-candidate for the presidency of the Russian Federation, for Western values ​​!!!!!

What the fuck is an ex-candidate? Murzilka, who conscientiously played the role set by the Putin administration, never even had presidential intentions in her dreams.

[fruc]

I agree. She really belongs in House-2.

[Anachoret]

Quote: Thrall

This six Kolomoisky clearly communicated with UPA veterans.

clarification: he is not a six, but a Kolomoisky bastard
it is fashionable now to rake in the heat with the hands of bastards "supposedly" without clan and without tribe
like the nephew-Ololesha, who feeds from the hands of the remnants of the seven bankers, mixed with handouts from overseas masters

[BLADFROST]

To begin with, he had to insert an aspen stake into the causal place and burn it!

[Gene84]

Quote: Thrall

This six Kolomoisky clearly communicated with UPA veterans

One with them. Only a Bandera member could say that May 9 "is a tragedy for them" ...

[stalki]

in 1959, an agent of the KGB of the USSR Bogdan Stashinsky eliminated the leader of the OUN S. Bandera

It's a pity now there are no such KGB officers, or maybe there are, only politicians are guided by international law.

[Don karleone]

Bastard !!!! You will burn with Bandera

[Lannan Shi]

Further, Bogdan said that he had talked with the veterans and that they had told him that they were not proud of May 9, since "it is a tragedy for them."

Well, why not? The veterans really told him so - a tragedy. True, the typus forgot to clarify that he communicated with the veterans of the Galicia division, and other Essesman, and similar evil spirits.

[Terenin]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Further, Bogdan said that he had talked with the veterans and that they had told him that they were not proud of May 9, since "it is a tragedy for them."

Well, why not? The veterans really told him so - a tragedy. True, the typus forgot to clarify that he communicated with the veterans of the Galicia division, and other Essesman, and similar evil spirits.

Yes, the Nazis and the Bandera supporters, they could not say otherwise.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Terenin

Yes, the Nazis and the Bandera supporters, they could not say otherwise.

For once and for all we have a single view of the issue

[Terenin]

Quote: Lannan Shi

Quote: Terenin

Yes, the Nazis and the Bandera supporters, they could not say otherwise.

For once and for all we have a single view of the issue

Understanding positions are the first step to understanding

[Well done]

How much the face looks like a boar. And pig thoughts. In the interview, he grunt nonsense, full of nonsense. Boar and Sobchak are an explosive mixture.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Welldone

How much the face looks like a boar. And pig thoughts.

And Bandera's mazepinka cap with pig ears will suit him very much!

[Reviews]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

Quote: Welldone

How much the face looks like a boar. And pig thoughts.

And Bandera's mazepinka cap with pig ears will suit him very much!

Don't hurt pigs with comparisons.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

And Bandera's mazepinka cap with pig ears will suit him very much

Fu Fu Fu. Why do you insult a pretty pig with such a comparison?

[fruc]

To slaughter those pigs in ties.

[askort154]

Left leg for one birch - right, for the other and at the same time release them. This is what our ancestors did with "non-humans".

[Lord of the Sith]

Former head of Zelensky's office calls May 9 "big funeral"

The funeral of Bandera and Nazi degenerates)))

[zenion]

You need to be proud of the affairs of Bandera not only in the USSR, but also in Yugoslavia. You need to be proud of the photograph, as three men chop off the head of a Yugoslav partisan with an ax. This photo is and was shown during the Nuremberg Tribunal. As the English prosecutor said, after seeing this photo he felt bad.

[rocket757]

It is not interesting, no one released into circulation will remain forever so ...

[cniza]

The nose is a button, and the brains are chicken ... Greetings!

[rocket757]

Hi
So he would not be interesting to anyone now, if he did not talk his tongue recklessly. For a pretty penny, small or not small, it still carries a blizzard, for the most part.

[cniza]

That's just the point, trying to earn at least something and thinks that he can advise someone and talk about the Second World War ...

[rocket757]

Cheap, they pay for sho, they go there with their tongues and sweep.

[cniza]

I would say a temporarily blown dummy ...

[rocket757]

Yes, in that ... team, scooters, it's not worth looking for the depths of the mind at all.

[Vadim Golubkov]

Unfortunately, the last two WWII veterans died in our house. As far as I remember, May 9 was always a holiday for them, that day they wore orders and medals, we congratulated them, gave them flowers, said thank you. Of course, for Bandera on May 9, mourning.

[Polite Moose]

Yes, grandfathers did not finish it in their time. This humanism ...

[fruc]

Grandfathers have finished. Let's say "thank you" to a real ethnic Ukrainian comrade. Nikita Khrushchev.

in September 1955, a decree was issued "On amnesty for Soviet citizens who collaborated with the occupiers during the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945." A significant part of political prisoners fell under this amnesty. By the beginning of January 1956, the number of persons convicted under Article 58 of the Criminal Code was 113, 7 thousand people. Basically, these were people who fought with weapons in their hands against the Soviet regime, either on the side of the Germans during the Great Patriotic War, or in the ranks of the nationalists in Ukraine, the Baltic states and other republics of the USSR.
Khrushchev is also accused of not allowing the organizational structure of the Bandera underground in Ukraine to be completely destroyed. Thanks to the three amnesties immediately carried out by Khrushchev under Stalin, thousands of Bandera managed to escape punishment.
When Khrushchev headed the USSR, he declared a general amnesty to the followers of Stepan Bandera.
In 1955, after an amnesty in honor of the tenth anniversary of the Victory, former policemen and Bandera began to return en masse from prison to Ukraine. Over the next decades, about 100 thousand people returned from emigration, and unlike other Soviet republics in Ukraine, the returnees were provided with housing and helped with employment.

Foreign intelligence services, who patronized Ukrainian nationalist organizations abroad, noted that now there was an opportunity to act legally.

According to historians, most of the OUN and UPA fighters rehabilitated in the 50s (banned in the Russian Federation - ed.) And their family members became by the mid-70s the heads of district committees, regional committees and executive committees in Western, Central and South-Western Ukraine , as well as leaders of different ranks in Ukrainian ministries and departments, which ultimately revived nationalism in Ukraine again

[Polite Moose]

Quote: frruc

Grandfathers have finished. Let's say "thank you" to a real ethnic Ukrainian comrade. Nikita Khrushchev.

Amnesty or "from call to call" - this does not change the essence of what happened. The flaw is that they were just planted, and not allowed to flow. Now it has grown ...

[faiver]

It would be nice to find out who the grandfather was in this stupid shot ...

[Chervonny]

Here is an article titled Bogdan called Bandera a hero and told how his grandfather was "beaten by Muscovites" it says: Bogdan said that one of his grandfathers died fighting in the ranks of the Red Army, and the other grandfather, according to family history, was "beaten by Muscovites." There seems to be a video of the interview posted
https://www.obozrevatel.com/society/bogdan-nazval-banderu-geroem-i-rasskazal-kak-ego-dedushku-zabili-moskali.htm

[7,62x54]

On the head of this face is still a green cap with a trident.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

The network is actively discussing the statements of the former head of the office of the President of Ukraine.

[Knell wardenheart]

Once again he confirms that one cannot hear a human opinion from a politician - just as one cannot convince a dog not to bark.

[svp67]

Andrei Bogdan suggested that Vladimir Putin "take a step back."

No, under no circumstances, this is definitely not the case. And they will not appreciate it, and will demand to continue to "take steps back" without making any concessions

[cniza]

Further, Bogdan said that he had talked with the veterans and that they had told him that they were not proud of May 9, since "it is a tragedy for them."

We must give it to veterans, veterans from Ukraine and see what remains of it ...

[Dimy4]

It looks like a pig, the tail is not enough with a curl.

[APASUS]

Interesting opinion and follower of Western values!
Toadies, nothing prevents them from putting on a red poppy on their lapel and celebrating May 8 with Europe. Although the significance of the red poppy as a symbol does not even have the slightest significance for Ukraine The symbol was first used by the American Legion to commemorate American soldiers who died during World War I. It is widely distributed in the Commonwealth countries - Great Britain and its former colonies, as well as in North America and Australia.
Why not make the Battle of Midway Atoll a holiday in Ukraine then! To be sold, so already in full

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

This Andrii looks more like a hog. His fate and finish ...

[Lyuba1965_01]

My father-in-law went through the entire war, volunteered for the front, attributing 1 year to himself. He took part in the Battle of Stalingrad, was a pilot. He reached Hungary, then he was seriously wounded and after the hospital he was discharged. For him there was only one holiday - Victory Day. And for him it was just a holiday in the truest sense of the word. He could forget about his birthday, but not about Victory Day. And, according to the stories of my mother-in-law and husband, and from what I saw myself, he always celebrated this day.

[gx200gx]

Both interviewees are to be disposed of immediately!

[Chervonny]

Sudoplatov for these Bandera people is needed.

[fif21]

Yes ! The Nazis of Germany were buried on May 9. We will bury the Nazis of Ukraine on another holiday.

[tuts]

not for UPA veterans really not a holiday

[Chervonny]

Quote: tots

not for UPA veterans really is not a holiday

I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood something, but I think that the first "not" in the comment is superfluous.

[tuts]

yes a mistake
for UPA veterans really is not a holiday

[Avior]

[quote]. ex-head of office [quote].
Ex head is this position?
Nobody and nobody representing Bogdan would have written that way ...
and more
May 9 in Ukraine is an official holiday - Victory Day, a day off.
No parade, of course, quarantine and security requirements
Veterans are congratulated on May 9th.

And what is this Bogdan composing, these are his problems, he is nobody and his name is nothing.

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Avior

And what is this Bogdan composing, these are his problems, he is nobody and his name is nothing.

you will notice the title. And the author does not even quote the interview itself! He again proposes a discussion "In Ukraine". And he does this only in a short discussion on May 9!
Here is this interview

both speak Russian in Istanbul.
25 minutes for example ...

"For me, a Soviet general who liberated ... is also a Hero. And the fact that he believed in the happiness of Ukraine"

the author does not quote this phrase ...
why ... the main thing is once again to talk about some kind of Bandera. This is more interesting.
By the way, I looked - a normal dialogue, why you can speak normally only outside the territory of Russia and Ukraine ..
I would advise initially watching the video itself. And then write comments.
And do not blindly believe the authors ...
holivar from nothing.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Perhaps the most actively discussed in Russia and Ukraine is the words of Bogdan

are you laughing? What the fuck is "active"? Until now, no one knew this boar at all. And already forgotten again.

[Galina Medvedeva]

NOT a soul, but a trash heap!

[Poetry]

They want to rewrite History and Essence.
They want to take away the glory of our ancestors.
When I think about it, I can’t fall asleep.
All this makes me angry and not weak.

They want to forget like a nightmare
Victory way from the Volga to Berlin.
Forget about those who have perished with the end,
On that path, painful and long.

They would like to take Victory away from us.
So that we already had nothing to be proud of.
They break obelisks, to our great-grandfather and grandfather,
Those who did not surrender were not Germanized! ..

They wanted to equalize ours with the Wehrmacht.
About the same, Hitler and Stalin.
Our Truth has been completely rejected by them,
Everything is cleaned up, greased, tweaked.

Our truth hurts them in the eye.
The truth is unbearable for them.
Our eternal fire, it would be better for them to go out,
And our man to rot and go out ...

The ninth day of May, he is the most important.
Victory Price: twenty seven million.
The greatest of Victories and the most glorious,
Over the terrible power of the black legions.

2020 Kingisepp

[Retvizan 8]

Here is a fat, swollen face, with parasite eyes, you can immediately see that the brain is swollen with fat!
There is nothing! Even in such an inferior country as Ukro-ina proved to be a mediocrity, he could not hold out with the Deletant Zelensky for several months, constantly got into stories with his long chatty tongue and very short stupid brain.

[anjey]

These answers clearly reflect the entire modern political situation in Ukraine - to turn a great story into a farce, and make heroes out of crooks.

Now in politics and at the helm of the Krajina, there are many crooks, adventurers and real criminals. The situation in the West is great for such subhumans.

[Ulysses]

Is it worth even paying attention to the statements of any idiots.
Moreover, the "former" heads of all offices ..

[iouris]

Stop spreading the statements of various scoundrels.

[alex neym_2]

And what surprises you: a native of Lviv Spill in 1976, graduated from Lviv University. In 1991 he was 15 years old - that's where the legs and wavs grow in the head ...

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: aleks neym_2

native of Lviv spill in 1976, graduated from Lviv University

in Russian it scratches bless you. I am sure that my native language is from birth.
In the interview, no "Banderism" - not even Russophobia is visible.
The only thing where they argued about the path to NATO and the abandonment of the territory in favor of Russia. And so-so ... slightly
what a nationalist and "Bandera's" from him ... ???
I probably reacted more emotionally to these words of Xenia, but he didn't even bother ..
doesn't ... doesn't smell like nationalism at all ..
An ordinary ex-politician. Without emotion, he can still agree with this.
The misconception that Western Ukraine is a continuous "Bandera" and nationalists ...
The real nationalists are Russians. Russian citizens of Ukraine.
They are the business executives and those who are for the war. For peace and for war. This is such a contradictory position.

[Borsht]

The Jews celebrate the victory that happened 2500 years ago every year. Let's take a good example, and in 2000-3000 years we will discuss: should we continue to celebrate May 9 the salvation of our people.

[tatarin1972]

Found what to ask "stoned"? Their priorities have changed since the collapse of the Union, even the "first president" admitted that he dragged food to the woods for the banderlog in his youth.

[NF68]

Oh, and dropped you head down in childhood. Maybe it started with the stork.

[Bear040]

It depends on what kind of veterans. SS veterans of Galicia have nothing to really be proud of