"Very similar to the Russian T-90MS": Western press on the readiness of the Iranian tank "Karrar"

Serial sample tank Iranian-made Karrar is ready to serve. Carrar is the latest generation MBT developed by Tehran. His first photographs were published in March 2017 on the official website of the country's Ministry of Defense.

As individual resources explain, the tank has passed all the final tests and is ready to be sent to the troops. The base for its creation was the Soviet T-72. However, the new product received its own turret and armor.

By design, the [Carrar] tanks are very similar to the Russian-made T-90MS

- indicates the Western edition of Army Recognition.

The MBT is equipped with a 125mm smoothbore gun capable of firing ATGMs. The tower is equipped with a carousel automatic loader. A remote-controlled combat module with a 7,62-mm machine gun acts as an additional weapon.

The Karrar is protected by a new KAZ installed in the front of the hull and around the turret, which Western press speculates may be a replica of Russia's 3rd generation Relikt complex. The roof of the tower is also protected from means of destruction from above. The hull side is equipped with additional armor plates.

The Karrar layout is very similar to the standard Soviet MBT T-72 with a driver's compartment in the front of the hull, a commander and gunner in the turret mounted in the center of the hull, and an engine compartment in the rear.

- considers Army Recognition.

Comments

[Lech from Android.]

I wonder how the duel of this tank with the newest Israeli Merkava will end under equal battle conditions?

[unhappy]

The first function of the tank is to suppress infantry and artillery, vehicles and various armored vehicles, breaking through defensive structures. And already the second function is anti-tank warfare.
It's a level playing field in a computer shooter. In real life, "one in the field is not a warrior", the battle is conducted by a tactical group and those who should work on tanks

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: unhappy

And already the second function is anti-tank warfare.

The first function of a tank is to suppress what poses a danger to it, and tanks on this list are among the priority targets.
Read the regulations and tactics of the tank platoon at least.

[unhappy]

The tank is not an absolute weapon, those who expect miracles from it are idiots like Goebbels. A tank platoon is one of the links of a tactical or operational group, if roughly it is a consumable to achieve the task.
Tigers perfectly killed our T-34s, so what? The Germans pissed away the war, and the T-34 is the best (effective or useful) tank of the war.

[VO3A]

They teach you, tell you about the modern war, about the revolution in information media, and you and our generals are again walking along the "Karabakh rake." The tank, if not included in the information system, is an auxiliary weapon for protection in the 3rd echelon.... We, like Iran, do not have such information systems ...
The tank does not see the UAV! He is defenseless .... Even if air defense systems follow in the battle formations of tanks, then their capabilities are limited and they are destroyed first of all ... UAV, or a helicopter, in this case, uses the maximum range ... He "sees" the tank or mobile air defense systems with a distance of up to 30 km .... The US Army already has a missile with a launch range of up to 24 km ... JAGM is called .... And the old ones with a range of 10 km will also cope, after neutralizing the air defense systems, they will shoot tanks and columns, as in a shooting range ... That was even already in Iraq ...

[avdkrd]

Quote: VO3A

We, like Iran, do not have such information systems ...

Where does this information come from? And here is the Karabakh rake and we (Russia) ??? What is this idolatry before the UAV? Against the Russian army, the effectiveness of the Azerbaijani army in Karabakh would be negative. From the side of the Armenians in Karabakh there were semi-partisan formations, with equipment from the 80s of the last century. In addition, the RA is sufficiently equipped with electronic and reconnaissance systems to suppress not only the UAVs themselves, but also command posts. Iran is also not a bastard, it creates quite interesting and modern systems for itself. JAGM is a so-so example. Not a panacea for tanks of the t-90AM level, which just has a fire control system integrated with the terminal of the combat control system for receiving tactical information in the automated unit control system (ESU TZ). Afghanit and KAZ Arena, also a significant milestone for missiles with a combined homing system.

[VO3A]

Against the Russian army, the effectiveness of the Azerbaijani army in Karabakh would be negative.

Dream. Just imagine, imagine that ours from the base in Armenia were attracted to support the Armenians! The result would have been the same ... We can wipe out the headquarters in BAKU with "Calibers" and that's it, with Iskander destroy airfields and that's it, but this is too cool and fraught with consequences ... In a combined-arms battle, we are at the same level as the Azerbaijani army , only we don't have drums, and we don't know how to use the usual ones ... And how many of our guys would go down ?! Apart from police missions and fighting partisans, we are not able to do anything ... Only missiles right away, here we are ahead, but they try not to use them in local conflicts ...

And here is the Karabakh rake and we (Russia)

And we do not see anything, we do not control anything everywhere ... We do not know how, there are no means for covert control and information support ... We flow around ... We only know how to send people, scouts in "Ratniki" with "Streltsy" to slaughter, as and ours in PMCs!

[KCA]

What an angry comment, did you send someone to the slaughter? Are you the owner of PMCs banned in the Russian Federation, or are you just peeing on a hot frying pan while sitting on the couch? You put on "Warrior", can you talk about his shortcomings, well, weight, connection, or something else?

[VO3A]

I have comrades both there and there ... Enough?

[figwam]

Quote: Lech from Android.

I wonder how the duel of this tank with the newest Israeli Merkava will end under equal battle conditions?

An Israeli tank will not participate on an equal footing, only with a clear superiority.

[VO3A]

Whoever detects the enemy first will win ... Merkava shoots from a closed position, out of line of sight ... But we don't have this type of shooting for tanks! External target designation, have you heard that for a tank?

[Zaurbek]

If we take only armor and a cannon and BOPS ... so far, the Russian Federation is lagging behind Western tanks here due to the absence of high ballistic weapons and new (long) BOPS on the T72 / 90/80/64 and (whatever one may say) tons by 10 less mass than Western tanks. But the Merkava has a diesel in front and frontal armor is limited in weight. Those. modern 125mm is enough. Another thing is that in Merkava, much attention is paid to ensure that the tank does not burn and explode when ammunition hits.
We do not know how things are with the cannon and BOPS in Iran, but the basis is T71 ..... i.e. frontal armor should be at the level of T72B3

[abc_alex]

Quote: Zaurbek

If you take only armor and a cannon and BOPS

And if you take armor and a cannon and ATGM?

[Zaurbek]

We do not have modern ATGMs (125mm with 900mm penetration) yet, they have announced for the T-14 so far ... Much depends on the optics and thermal imager of Iranian and Russian tanks. And KAZ systems for Merkava. How do they work with PTCRS before and over sound and BOPS.
It may so happen that with the 120mm L55 gun and modern BOPS, NATO tanks will hit targets at 3-3,5 km, and our tanks with ATGMs, due to worse optics (and at night, the ratio is not clear at all), will hit from the same distances. And what is on the Iranian tanks - we do not know. Better or worse than Russian or Russian? Maybe they bought the whole BM and put it on their T72?

[abc_alex]

Quote: Zaurbek

We don't have modern ATGMs (125mm with 900mm penetration)

Competition-M - up to 800, for tanks of the T-72 family. Why do you need exactly 900?

Quote: Zaurbek

And KAZ systems for Merkava.

Wait, you said yourself

Quote: Zaurbek

If you take only armor and cannon and BOPS.

And now KAZ? Then let's compare KAZ, Afganit (if you find the data) and Arena-M on the other side.

Quote: Zaurbek

How do they work with PTCRS before and over sound and BOPS.

Yes. How?

Quote: Zaurbek

It may so happen that with a 120mm L55 gun and a modern BOPS, NATO tanks will hit targets at 3-3,5 km, and our tanks with ATGMs, due to worse optics (and at night the ratio is not clear at all), will hit from the same distances.

Classic BOPS do not shoot further than 2-2,5 km. It's not that they won't get there. The point is not to get caught. There are too many unpredictable factors in flight.
ATGMs give a hitting distance plus a kilometer due to in-flight control. So do not worry, ATGM will almost always be superior to BOPS in range.

Quote: Zaurbek

and at night the ratio is not clear at all

Why then? Konkurs-M has a range of 3500 at night.
At the T-90 night sight
Vision range:
Target detection range of "tank" type during the day, m, 4000
Target recognition range of "tank" type during the day, m, 3000
Target detection range of "tank" type at night, m, 4000
Recognition range of targets such as "tank" at night, 3000

So 3 km is quite real. But hitting BOPS from such a distance is a VERY big question.

Quote: Zaurbek

Maybe they bought the whole BM and put it on their T72?

:) May be.
In general, we wander through the territory of mysteries and secrets ...

[VO3A]

Armor and a cannon do not play a decisive role in modern warfare, only with partisans, as in Syria ... The main thing is the detection range, the possibility of external target designation (use of information systems and entry into them), the firing range ... direct fire and outdated stereotypes .... Retire, "kids"!

[Zaurbek]

Wheeled or light tanks will not appear on the scene ..... and "armor and direct fire" make it possible to shoot exactly with ordinary HE shells. And the main AT means - Aviation and UAVs. I agree.

[Reserve buildbat]

Take a sedative
Otherwise, it turns out that an unarmed peasant who saw the tank from a distance of 10 km has already won! Armor and cannon "don't matter"
So don't retire people, you go to the doctor

[VO3A]

I respect the builders ... Build further .. And here you are not only a strategist, but also dream of working as a doctor! No need, mind your own business!

[Romario_Argo]

under equal battle conditions?

equal conditions will not be because in any way licked and dump for digging
1,5 minutes and a semicircular shaft 3-4 meters thick, ready
for those like our tanks, the tactics of use are the same
a blade with protection of 30 degrees is created in 1-2 minutes then the next one is farther away and the previous one is already as a backup position

[Thrifty]

When you look at the budget version of the T72B3, and you see holes in the location of the reactive armor on the turret of the tank, you understand that the tank is molded according to the principle of "unhooking" (I wrote this politely, the censorship of the site will not miss the word that should be there )! Persians made conclusions DZ they have laid much better than the poor T72B3! The only place is the cannon barrel near the tower, the DZ is not closed from below! And so, an order of magnitude better than our "budget" seventy-two. ..

[figwam]

Quote: Thrifty

When you look at the budget version of the T72B3

Why compare the budget version with the most secure one. It can be compared with the latest T-90MS, it will be more correct.

[zadorin1974]

Good Sergey. And we have to compare. Because the ratio of T 72B3 "budget" is an order of magnitude higher than T 90. A T90 Breakthrough is generally piecemeal. This is like tourism and emigration.

[Romario_Argo]

when defending a motorized rifle company on 9 BMP-2/3 along a front of 1 km. with the support of a platoon of 3 T-72B3 tanks, they dig out sector positions for 3x3 tanks in total 9 sector tank trenches
(with the help of a tank dump - 2 minutes and the trench is ready)
so your writing has nothing to do with the actual tactics of using tanks
+ there is 1 command BMP + 1 ATGM Shturm-S
dump for Carrar available see NLB

[Uncle lee]

"Very similar to the Russian T-90MS":

Structurally, almost all tanks are the same.

[Retvizan 8]

But I'm interested in hearing a few words about the power plant of this tank? A lot also depends on the engine.
How much strength?
Whose production?
The degree of reliability?

[Zaurbek]

Basis - T-72 ..... diesel - 840 hp

[Old tanker]

Yes. Iranian designers were clearly inspired by the T-90MS. Only it is not clear why KAZ is named in the article "Relikt"?

[svp67]

The fact that this tank was created and modernized with an eye on our T-90 is not even discussed, but nevertheless it does not make it equal to the T-90M, in many solutions and designs ...

[Romario_Argo]

this does not make it equal to the T-90M, in many decisions and designs ...

you need to look at the tactics of using tanks in the Iranian army together with motorized rifles, anti-tank systems, UAVs
those. organization and construction of defense (fire map)

[Bilal]

Most likely, in 2017, a diesel engine B 82 840 hp was installed there. And later, according to some sources, this engine was replaced by a model of a multi-fuel engine with a turbocharger V-92S2F (also known under the designation V-93 (Forced diesel engine V-92S2F specially designed for installation on modernized and new serial T-72BZ tanks with a capacity of 1130 hp)) with a capacity of 830.5 kW. According to Chinese specialists, Iranian engineers have radically modernized the air filtration system for the engine, namely, thanks to the use of cyclone filters, air purification in the Iranian desert is improved.

In addition, the engine is equipped with a data recording module as well as a special coolant level sensor. When the pressure in the cooling system drops, this sensor prevents the engine from starting. If necessary, the ECM connects an additional cooling fan. All these measures made it possible to ensure the following speed and maneuverability characteristics:

- maximum speed when driving on the highway: 70 km / h;

- maximum cruising range: 550 km;

- angle of entry: 60%;

- departure angle: 40%;

- the width of the ditch to be overcome: 2,5 m;

- maximum height of a vertical obstacle: 0,8 m;

- ford depth: 1,2 m.

According to Chinese experts, the tank's cruising range can be increased by installing two additional 200-liter fuel tanks. each on external mounts.

[Polymer]

Quote: Bilal

When the pressure in the cooling system decreases, this sensor does not allow the engine to start.

That is, in combat conditions, the tank can stop, turn on the emergency gang and wait for the tow truck to come for it?