Is a coup d'etat possible in Ukraine?

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Is a coup d'etat possible in Ukraine?

With the aggravation of the situation in Ukraine and with the weakening of the positions of their president, information is regularly thrown in about a possible coup in Ukraine in order to overthrow Zelensky. How likely is such a coup? And what driving forces are ready to implement it? What goals can they pursue? And is there a social base for supporting the coup in Ukraine? To assess this possibility, it is necessary to present the alignment of the oligarchic and the political forces accountable to them in Ukraine. It will also require the consent of an external "overseer" to such actions of local aborigines.

Only two forces can prepare and carry out a coup in Ukraine: the Ukrainian oligarchy and the United States, holding Ukraine under tight control. Today there are no other internal and external structures capable and ready to make a revolution. And their appearance is not expected in the near future.



Goals and objectives of the United States and the oligarchy


The defining force in Ukraine is the United States. In principle, no serious action in this direction can take place without their signal. One can ask questions: “Does the USA need to overthrow Zelensky? And what can this lead to? "

The main goals of the Americans are to siphon resources from Ukraine, destroy its technical potential, form a bridgehead against Russia and create a zone of instability on the Russian borders.

All these years, the puppet authorities of Ukraine have successfully coped with the solution of these tasks. And Zelensky's team, completely controlled by the Americans, fulfills all the "wishes" of the overseas owner with the same zeal. In many issues, Zelensky (already surpassed Poroshenko) never dared to disobey. With the filing of the oligarchy, there were only not entirely successful attempts to weaken the noose previously thrown by the Americans in the form of anti-corruption bodies. Zelensky is still completely satisfied with the "beholder" and (unlike Poroshenko, who had previously discredited himself in the eyes of the people) still enjoys significant support from the population. Therefore, on the part of the Americans, there is now no point in staging a coup and changing the obedient Zelensky.

If you look at the Ukrainian oligarchy, now there is no consensus within it, and interests diverge. Kolomoisky, Akhmetov, Pinchuk and Poroshenko remained influential from the first echelon of the oligarchy. Firtash has long been in circulation and is awaiting extradition to the United States in Austria on corruption charges. Pinchuk works closely with Soros and the Democrats and realizes their interests in Ukraine. Akhmetov, as always, has joined the government and is happy with everything. Only Kolomoisky and Poroshenko are unhappy with Zelensky and are ready to take revenge on him for the wrongs he had inflicted on him earlier, and would not mind removing him from power.

Kolomoisky actually made Zelenskiy president. But he quickly came under the control of the Americans, did not allow the oligarch to return Privatbank and eventually removed all of his people from his circle. The oligarch does not have direct influence on Zelensky now, he can only (through his deputy group of influence in parliament and bribing officials) intrigue the president and block the adoption of the decisions he needs. In addition, this most odious oligarch has long been on a big hook with the Americans and at any time for corruption may be required to extradite to the United States.

Poroshenko, despite the inglorious loss to Zelensky (thanks to his fighting qualities), remained afloat and, having regrouped his forces, seeks to return to big politics. For all his activity, he does not have serious support and resources. For Americans, he is a played card, in his place is a clown accountable to them. Poroshenko's attempts to increase his importance to the Americans in the event of Biden's victory are also futile. Because he (during his time as president) allowed himself to keep secret records of negotiations with him, which were later made public and damaged Biden during the election campaign. In big politics, such actions are not forgiven. Poroshenko's party "European Solidarity" is popular only in Galicia, where the former president is still a stranger. For the population of the Center and the South-East, it remains a symbol of the unleashed war in the Donbass, pathological greed, boundless corruption and the Bandera gangs of militants with their cave manners that have multiplied at his behest.

Avakov's tasks


In addition to the oligarchy, there is also the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Avakov, whose strength and capabilities are clearly exaggerated by many. This, according to Saakashvili, "mestizo" in the Ukrainian arena (an ideological Russophobe and an active organizer of the suppression of the resistance of the South-East in 2014) has been successfully playing along with the Americans all these years. For his faithful "service", in 2019 he was appointed the overseas hegemon "overseer" for Zelensky. With the help of gangs of militants under his wing, Avakov, at the command of the United States, kept the president in check with the threat of a radical revolt, preventing him from abandoning his policy of confrontation with Russia.

Avakov's task was to "keep both Zelensky and the radicals in a stable," and he successfully coped with it. For tactical reasons and personal gain, he periodically entered into temporary agreements with Kolomoisky, but he was never his ally. Avakov is well aware of his role as a scarecrow for Zelensky. He will never allow himself to go against the Americans and will not try to overthrow the president without a command from there. Also, many exaggerate the role and significance of radicals. They do not represent a single cohesive force, are easily controlled and are under the control of the security forces. They successfully cope with the task of suppressing resistance to the regime and practically do not go beyond what is permitted.

The hopelessness of organizing a coup


Of the domestic Ukrainian crowd, only Kolomoisky and Poroshenko are interested and would be ready to prepare a coup. However, their desire to forcefully remove Zelensky will not be supported by either the United States or Akhmetov and Pinchuk (and even more so Avakov), since none of them is interested in instability and the fall of the Russophobic regime in Ukraine.

Kolomoisky and Poroshenko are seasoned fighters ready to fight Zelensky. But they are also calculating players who are well aware of the risk of confronting the Americans. Kolomoisky is a good chess player and an avid lover of complex combinations. He can take a risk, since if the situation develops unfavorably, he faces extradition to the United States and a long prison term. But he is unlikely to dare to go alone, without allies against such a powerful enemy and will look for other ways to solve the Zelensky problem.

There is no real opposition to the regime in Ukraine. In a neo-Nazi state, it cannot exist. All forces potentially capable of resisting the regime have long been purged. In Ukraine, there is no national elite, politicians and businessmen who defend state interests. The ruling class and the so-called opposition are entirely made up of compradors who are ready to sell this state with giblets for personal gain. They can only work for an external customer and receive their share.

For a long time they no longer have the ability to independently make decisions about the procedure and forms of robbery of the state. It remains for them to play the game imposed by the Americans, which they all successfully do.

There is no one to prepare and carry out a coup in Ukraine against Zelensky today. There are no driving forces in society for its implementation and support. Kolomoisky and Poroshenko, realizing the inevitable risks, are only taking steps to sway power with the possibility of holding early parliamentary and presidential elections. They are successfully engaged in provocations against Zelensky and accusations of treason to the interests of Ukraine (by which they understand the complete subordination of the United States and the Russophobic policy of the state). Zelenskiy's two notorious opponents are setting the stage for the legal removal of the president, hoping to get the American go-ahead to replace one puppet with another.

At the same time, they do not disdain the most dirty methods, bribing judges of the constitutional court and deputies to make populist decisions, as well as provoking Zelensky to inappropriate actions and deterioration of the political and economic situation in the country.

They have achieved some success. The popularity of the president and his team is falling. And in society, in addition to Zelensky's obvious blunders, belief in his inability to govern the state is kindled. It is not profitable for the Americans yet. But if they deem it necessary, they will calmly surrender Zelensky (as they did with Poroshenko) and select a figure that suits them from a long line of Ukrainian compradors ready to serve them.
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  1. -3
    23 November 2020 12: 07
    The coup of 2013/14 was possible, which means that the second coup is possible, and the N-th ...
    1. +1
      23 November 2020 12: 10
      And who has the heart to hand out cookies?
      1. 0
        23 November 2020 12: 57


        Everything is possible there. And coup, and somersault and flask.

        No one needs the state on this territory.
        Mess, anarchy, coups and other gymnastics with acrobatics are the essence of this education.
      2. +3
        23 November 2020 13: 09
        That's it!
        In a globalized world, all coups d'etat take place with the participation or direct leadership of some external global player. And that's why talk about internal opposition is just ridiculous. The opposition will be needed - they will do and provide.
        Ukraine is now a pro-American regime. In this case, a coup is possible only with the participation of the global enemy of the United States. Who is this today?
        China? His economy is strongly tied to the United States, and for the sake of some distant Ukraine, it makes no sense to break pots except those that Trump has already filled.
        RF? It seems that it makes a direct sense to replace the regime in Ukraine with a pro-Russian one. But so far it is impossible to say something intelligible about the foreign policy of the Russian Federation. Some kind of continuous "cunning plans" and "partners" in which no one is able to figure it out. But at the same time, for some reason, everyone is dissatisfied and disappointed in the policy of the Russian Federation.
        There are no other opponents of the United States capable of organizing a coup in Ukraine.
        Well, except that North Korea smile
        1. +3
          23 November 2020 19: 54
          one more confirmation that we were completely taken out there - out of all these conspiracy theories, not a single plot with a Kremlin scenario, even theoretically - is it really so poisoned and not the slightest clue?
          1. +1
            23 November 2020 22: 22
            Until the Kremlin with its "towers" understands any plot, it will not succeed.
            Is that some kind of tragicomedy)
      3. +1
        23 November 2020 21: 23
        Quote: ASAD
        And who has the heart to hand out cookies?

        Let them get used to Maidan without cookies, and that well-fed belly is deaf to the mind. Get hungry, begin to realize that they rode in the wrong direction and chose the wrong shepherds.
    2. +1
      23 November 2020 12: 49
      Not all of the Carpathian round timber is yet spioneer, not all of BurismaGas has been pumped out, not everyone is washing the toilet bowls at Erope yet ... so that's it! ahead.
    3. +17
      23 November 2020 15: 48
      A new coup is possible, but only with the accomplishment or support of the army.
  2. +2
    23 November 2020 12: 09
    The author answered his own question at the beginning of the article, are the Americans satisfied with the clown? Satisfied So everyone is sitting and not twitching!
    1. 0
      23 November 2020 13: 24
      Quote: ASAD
      The author answered his own question at the beginning of the article, are the Americans satisfied with the clown?

      But he is not transgender or colored, and this is no longer tolerant from the American point of view. So, proceeding from the principle "Everything is possible in Ukraine," I admit the replacement on the political scene of the independent comedian Zelensky with some transvestite from the LGBT community who distinguished himself at the carnivals of Europe and America. I think such a handsome man in wide trousers and heels will look even cooler than Zelensky in block 95 ...
  3. +4
    23 November 2020 12: 10
    As soon as Russian tanks enter Darnitsa, a coup will take place on Bankova Street.
    In another way.
    1. +1
      23 November 2020 12: 25
      Perhaps, the question is when?
      1. -1
        23 November 2020 12: 55
        I wrote - "as soon as ..."
        1. 0
          23 November 2020 13: 02
          Alas, "once" is a very loose concept ... smile
          1. 0
            23 November 2020 13: 28
            Alas ... I agree with you how much you can pull!
      2. +1
        23 November 2020 13: 27
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        Perhaps, the question is when?

        I think never. We have not been interested in this for a long time, and we do not need new parasites. Everything has been stolen from them - at whose expense are you going to benefit them?
        1. -1
          23 November 2020 13: 57
          Kaaaak ?! And our oligarchs .. and the rest .. smile .
    2. Cat
      +2
      23 November 2020 13: 35
      tanks will enter Darnitsa on Bankova, a coup will take place.

      Who will need it then?
  4. +1
    23 November 2020 12: 13
    Another coup?
    1. -2
      23 November 2020 12: 23
      The author asked himself a question and answered it with a reasoned answer.
  5. -1
    23 November 2020 12: 16
    The popularity of the president and his team is falling. And in society, in addition to Zelensky's obvious blunders, belief in his inability to govern the state is kindled. It is not profitable for the Americans yet. But if they deem it necessary, they will calmly surrender Zelensky (as they did with Poroshenko) and select a figure that suits them from a long line of Ukrainian compradors ready to serve them.
    This is exactly how it will be and why should the garden be fenced off with a coup. The coup can be carried out by those people who control the power structures.
  6. +2
    23 November 2020 12: 17
    and what is the meaning of this coup? Zelensky is now New Poroshenko, which means he is not in danger of a coup, since the United States will not allocate money for this
    1. +2
      23 November 2020 12: 29
      Absolutely true and you don't even need to argue ...
    2. +1
      23 November 2020 12: 38
      The author turned on the "fantasy" switch and wrote a meaningless opus. Changing surnames, you can lean his reasoning to any country that you see on the map and whose politicians and oligarchs you know.
      I was immediately embarrassed by the author's suggestion that Kolomoisky could overthrow Ze. He needs it ?! He's not Taras Bulba, who killed his son. Or have everyone forgotten together whose protege Ze?
      In general, the article is a transfusion from empty to empty.
      1. -1
        24 November 2020 00: 31
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I was immediately embarrassed by the author's suggestion that Kolomoisky could overthrow Ze

        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Or have everyone forgotten together whose protege Ze?

        Well, at first, the authors wrote together that this is Kolomoisky's henchman, the tame president of Kolomoisky and will fulfill all his wishes ..
        Well, that’s how it came out ... well, the authors of Ukraine do not guess well ..
        How many topics about the coup under Poroshenko were ... and in each of them they believed that there were hours, days ...
        The relay is already under Zelensky ..
        In my opinion, these are just topics for making free money. You also have Ukraine. And the solution to the problem (it will dissolve on its own during the collapse / coup), and just what the neighbors have there ..
        And everyone is interested. We just change the name and rewrite Poroshenko's one.
        Now, with the coronavirus, all presidents have ratings. But the coup is interesting only in Ukraine ...
  7. -3
    23 November 2020 12: 18
    Banana country .......
  8. -2
    23 November 2020 12: 19
    Of course possible, there is a whole bank of spiders!
  9. -2
    23 November 2020 12: 23
    Coups with an announcement are not made. Although .. In Bukraine, anything is possible. But in this case it will be a lid in the coffin.
  10. nnm
    +1
    23 November 2020 12: 38
    Shaw, again ?! laughing
    1. Cat
      +2
      23 November 2020 13: 44
      We must give the people what they deserve. "The country will be covered with a network of hospitals and .. zoos" (C):
      1. -2
        23 November 2020 13: 54
        "Every citizen of Anchuria will have a gramophone!" (C)
      2. +2
        23 November 2020 14: 22
        Quote: Gato
        We must give the people what they deserve. "The country will be covered with a network of hospitals and .. zoos" (C):

        I just read "Kings and Cabbage" for the first time during the post-Maid period of Ukraine. One to one. Even the story about the admiral with his "fleet" was to the point.
        1. Cat
          0
          23 November 2020 19: 10
          Here. And Maydauns O. Henry and Orwell's Animal Farm did not read. And if you have read it, then #UnasAllOther laughing
          1. +1
            23 November 2020 19: 11
            Quote: Gato
            if you have read it, then #UNasAllOther laughing

            In-in.

            “How good it is in our time,” the captain said half-jokingly, “to be able to overthrow presidents and put others in their place of their own choosing.
            “Oh, this is pure business,” Vincenti said. “Today, business rules the whole world. - It was necessary to somehow lower the price of bananas, to destroy this extra real. We decided that this would be the fastest way
  11. +3
    23 November 2020 12: 39
    Kolomoisky and Poroshenko are seasoned fighters ready to fight Zelensky. But they are also calculating players who are well aware of the risk of confronting the Americans. Kolomoisky is a good chess player and an avid lover of complex combinations. He can take a risk, since if the situation develops unfavorably, he faces extradition to the United States and a long prison term. But he is unlikely to dare to go alone, without allies against such a powerful enemy and will look for other ways to solve the Zelensky problem.

    As if a year ago, everyone wrote that Zelensky was Kolomoisky's puppet.
    For six months, Zelensky is just a clown.
    And now here's what we read
    go alone, without allies against such a powerful enemy, he is unlikely to dare and will look for other ways to solve the Zelensky problem

    now it turns out to be a powerful opponent of Kolomoisky.
    All this "analytics" is not worth a damn. Talking about coups is complete nonsense. Absolutely unrealistic.
    1. -2
      24 November 2020 00: 46
      Quote: Avior
      Absolutely unrealistic.

      paper will endure everything.
      Do not interfere with fantasy. laughing
      It was always interesting what kind of profit ... well, it was Russia, since the author is trying to find it. Poroshenko was a good partner. Zelensky is so-so. Russia was and still is not a light bullet from coups. The main thing is not to interfere.
      And if the Americans, then why would they have a coup .. they are fine.
      EU is also normal.
      China doesn't like that. Other methods.
      And the analyst is lame. We write one thing, then vehemently deny and write the opposite.
      The Ukrainian direction of analytics was limping on both legs and continues to waddle ...
      Despite the fact that it has the same processes as in Russia. And in Russian.
      I have never understood how you can wrongly analyze in this direction.
      The only conclusion was that everything was at the same time.
      Everyone is in business and everyone understands everything, more precisely, a common business.
      By the way, I was driving around the city today and counted Sberbanks ... as there were so many of them as it was and remained ... and the crisis did not touch them laughing and remembered that
      The Commercial Court of Kiev on October 10, 2019 lifted the arrest from 100% of the shares of the Ukrainian Sberbank. The court substantiated its actions by the fact that the shares "belong to PJSC Sberbank of Russia by right of ownership, and not to the state of the Russian Federation."
      At the same time, they also had a profit in 2019. And Gref was delighted and made a statement.
      Wait, Sberbank belongs mainly to the RF Ministry of Finance. And our request made - what to do ...
      What a marker of relations between Russia and Ukraine. Unlike the article.
  12. +1
    23 November 2020 12: 46
    "Give me a penny, I will rule everything" (Give me money, I will arrange everything). This is not a "huge" coup, but a "small coup" - Ze throw, and then we'll figure it out.
    Well, imagine the assassination attempt on Ze - real or imaginary. Will he stay in the country? Yes spit on Nenko and fade. He has enough "for living". And no Re-evolution is needed.
  13. +3
    23 November 2020 12: 47
    What for??
    To put Medvedchuk as a prez?
    The author asks himself a strange question ..
  14. +1
    23 November 2020 12: 47
    Apparently the author has not been in the territory controlled by Ukraine for a long time laughing
    The opposition in Ukraine is represented by the "pro-Russian" HLP, the "pro-Western" Golos, the EU, relatively loyal to the authorities of the Batkivshchyna
    The author is disingenuous. Zelensky's personal rating, as it was in the region of 30%, remains, with slight fluctuations.
    CH-yes, it is losing, but not critical, as shown by the local elections x
    Zelensky is the fruit of the electoral revolution, the deep disappointment of society in the so-called "ilites", and not someone else's henchman and equidistant from the oligarchs
    There is no ground for a coup, which was recently shown by "pokatushki" to Feofaniya Natsiks and others like them
  15. 0
    23 November 2020 13: 13
    Anything is possible when the United States has no time for Uraina. And this will be under Biden by the end of 2021.
    1. HAM
      -2
      23 November 2020 13: 23
      Ukraine declared Biden a hereditary Ukrainian, well, that's it, (end) states ...
  16. Eug
    0
    23 November 2020 13: 39
    The price for the coup can be a wide admission of international corporations to Ukraine (sale of land). But Zelensky is only constrained by the opinion of a part of the Ukrainian population. So, if he somehow makes this part of the population come to terms with what is happening, what is the point of changing it? But they can very much help him in this ...
  17. +4
    23 November 2020 13: 41
    Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
    The author asked himself a question and answered it with a reasoned answer.

    And this is called "reasoned"?
    The author does not remember Ze's slogan at the elections - "Let's make them!" ?
    Those. a guy came into the yard, gathered hairdressers and photographers,
    and said - come with me and we will make the champion of the country! And they did! -73%!
    Monsters of Ukrainian politics, with all their parties, headquarters
    - Tymoshenko, Poroshenko, Medvedchuk - out!
    And now, he said "Let's do them AGAIN! And the hairdressers did
    TEAM COUNTRY - Radu! 280 places out of 450! They flew out like a pipe
    the "titans of Ukrainian parliamentarism" who have been sitting there for decades.
    Unemployed Lyashko is nonsense! And who will now run in Rada
    with villas, cows and dogs ?.
    He just laughed at all of them! What else should a clown do?
    Correctly - to laugh, to thunderous applause - this is its purpose.
    And who said that he will not abandon this "project" when he laughs enough?
    Yes, he himself said that he was not going to sniff this swamp all his life.
    Say - idle chatter - right, no one knows what's on the clown's mind,
    if this is a real MAESTRO, and Ze is talented, this is obvious. And not
    stupid person, knows the "way" of all the presidents of Ukraine - to the trash heap!
    One sits quietly in the apiary, the other sits quietly in Rostov, the other two
    grandfather - wedding generals, to the laughter of people. Unlike, for example,
    Polish presidents - those straight stars of Europe.
    And in what such a magnifying glass the author of neo-fascism saw - even those Tyagniboks,
    Farion and Lyashko, who 5 years ago dialed 7-9? (OH GOD!),
    today, in general, in that place, otherwise you can not call an ass. Yes in
    any country in Europe they are an order of magnitude steeper, and LePensha in France
    almost "ale-op" Ze did not.
    Further down the author, you see, they are playing a game imposed by the Americans.
    And that they have a great choice? They would not play the game imposed by the Russians.
    So it was already, they played, they lost their pants - the debt of Russia, if you count
    everything she invested in Ukraine - 100500 billion, is still hiding from debts.
    Now they changed their hairstyle, moved to another table - depict from
    yourself a solvent player. It turns out, however, not very much.
    Author, stop scaring everyone with Ukrainian Nazism, don't take away bread
    at Kisel! There were 270 million of us. After Pushcha, 10 "left" for Belarus,
    50 (fifty!) "Went" to Ukraine. These 50 were Soviet parents,
    went to Soviet kindergartens, schools, technical schools and universities, served in the SA.
    Anyone who was 90 in 20 is only 50 today! If he is a Nazi, then
    he had Nazi teachers in his kindergarten, school, university and SA!
    Do you yourself believe in this nonsense? Either go to the doctor or stop
    slander our Soviet past - I remember each of my teachers,
    each naval commander, starting with Sergeant Major Vysotsky, who
    I taught Morse language in Liepaja. Do not take a sin on your soul - it was very
    worthy people. And there are TENS of millions of us here, we are not dead yet
    (and we are not going yet). Once again, if you dream of neo-Nazism-
    to the doctor. God forbid aggravation and there will be an ending, like the one that shouted
    "Russians are coming".
  18. 0
    23 November 2020 13: 42
    The territory can start falling apart without any coups. Local elections have shown that Zenelokh and his team of greenbacks have "0" local support, but a huge hole in the budget. Prices are rising by leaps and bounds. The patience of the people can burst at any moment.
  19. BAI
    0
    23 November 2020 13: 45
    There is no Maidan without funding. Therefore, we must look for a) - capable and b) - willing to pay for the Maidan. Without a "gold reserve" no gang will work in the name of an idea. One should look not for political "forces", but for sponsors interested in the coup.
  20. +1
    23 November 2020 14: 37
    the author forgot to mention that the coup took place under the "multi-vector" Yanukovych.
    now the appearance of the power of the people is being created and the electoral technologies are being tested, so there will be no coup.
    and Poroshenko and Kolomoisky - pikes so that the crucian does not yawn.
  21. +1
    23 November 2020 19: 49
    Ha.
    The main thing is how to count.
    Let's take a standard presidential election (with a small one, of course) and call it a "coup."
    There will be a coup.

    Let's take a standard coup (somewhere there) and call it "Elections". There will be elections.

    Well, the media and talking heads will explain everything later.
  22. -4
    23 November 2020 20: 06
    How long can you publish such nonsense? "Horses, men and volleys of a thousand guns" are mixed in a heap.
    PS. Under Biden, Poroshenko will return to power. Don't go to the fortuneteller here.
  23. -1
    23 November 2020 21: 52
    Under the "coup d'etat in Ukraine" should be understood only the introduction of Russian troops into Kiev.
  24. 0
    24 November 2020 09: 21
    What a coup ?? ... It's already the seventh year since EVERYTHING has been reversed !!
  25. +15
    24 November 2020 13: 33
    As long as the States rule in Ukraine, there will be no coup
  26. -1
    24 November 2020 17: 07
    A coup d'état is impossible because there is no such country-Ukraine.
  27. 0
    29 November 2020 19: 28
    King Solomon wrote - this was before us, this is now and will be in the future.