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"And Russia says that Donbass is the territory of Ukraine": Kravchuk spoke about the need to adopt "especially important" laws

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The head of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group on the Donbas settlement spoke about the laws that the Rada needs to adopt on Donbass. Moreover, in this case, under the Donbass, Kravchuk means only the part that is not controlled by Kiev.


According to Leonid Kravchuk, who is accustomed to constantly changing his opinions and taking the words already expressed back, the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada must, as a matter of priority, adopt "especially important" laws.

Kravchuk:

You cannot talk about elections there when there are mercenaries who have come to fight for money, to make money in the war. The laws of Ukraine do not apply there, there are no Ukrainian parties or mass media. There is nothing Ukrainian there now.

According to Kravchuk, it is important that "certain areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions are not internationally recognized state formations."

Leonid Kravchuk:

And Russia says that Donbass is the territory of Ukraine. And it is true. The territory is temporarily occupied.

According to the first president of Ukraine, it is necessary to pass a law on demilitarization, then "look at the law on amnesty." Kravchuk noted that "you cannot amnesty everyone in a row, so that it does not turn out that war criminals fall under the amnesty."

Then, according to one of the accomplices in the collapse of the USSR, "it is possible to adopt a law on elections."
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  1. Comrade
    Comrade 20 November 2020 06: 23
    38
    Donbass is the territory of Ukraine. The territory is temporarily occupied.

    The trick is that Ukraine is the territory of Russia temporarily occupied by the collective West.
    1. Finches
      Finches 20 November 2020 07: 06
      16
      Kravchuk was little sane 30 years ago, and the years were not spared at all ... laughing
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 20 November 2020 07: 33
        -6
        ... And Russia says that Donbass is the territory of Ukraine

        And he does not just speak, but officially approves.

        But this is not a drain !!! This is such a tricky return plan! Either the whole Ukraine, or only Donbass - back to the bosom of Mother Russia! INFA 100% !!!
        1. Rubi0
          Rubi0 20 November 2020 10: 27
          0
          Well, you understand that under the conditions on which they want to shove him into Ruin, this will be the second Lvov, an alien body that she cannot digest. This is why they understand this in Kiev, otherwise they would have taken 2 million long ago and imposed taxes on them like the rest of the non-slaves at 40%
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 20 November 2020 08: 39
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Kravchuk was little sane 30 years ago, and the years were not spared at all ... laughing

        Kravchuk is a political parrot ... On his head there is a hollow, a beak, an important, puffy Cockatoo! Very similar in appearance ... I understand. that you cannot find fault with someone else's appearance, but I see him and such an association at once .. Cockatoo is a parrot. lol And in Russian, a woodpecker! laughing
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 20 November 2020 10: 32
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        Kravchuk was little sane 30 years ago, and the years were not spared at all ... laughing

        But here I agree with him in the sense that his proposal -
        "You cannot amnesty everyone in a row, so that it does not turn out that war criminals fall under the amnesty."
        first of all, it will affect the junta power and its zhisniks, because all the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the national bats and other pravoseki headed by the commanders-in-chief Poroshenko and Zelensky should be condemned and work tirelessly at construction sites restoring the destroyed houses and infrastructure of Donbass by them. And send this balabol there as a contractor, take into account the production rate.
      4. frruc
        frruc 20 November 2020 11: 22
        -1
        ..... this disabled person can hope for amnesty. What to take from him if the "pot" no longer cooks at all, and the language is out of control. tongue
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      6. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 20 November 2020 13: 45
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Kravchuk was little sane 30 years ago, and the years were not spared at all ... laughing

        Comment you... the words of the chameleon Kravchuk are useless: he changes opinions faster than his color! laughing
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 20 November 2020 23: 39
      -1
      The trick is that this entire “occupied” territory is inhabited by about 30 million citizens. More than half of them do not have jobs, social guarantees and are not used to paying taxes. About the destroyed logistics, transport, I generally keep quiet. And who will feed them, teach them, treat them, pay pensions and benefits? As a "bonus" - two generations of Russophobes who also need to be fed. This is not Crimea with its bridge. There are hundreds of "Crimean bridges". At whose expense will this banquet be? At the expense of Russian taxpayers? so, she died.
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 20 November 2020 06: 28
    26
    Kravchuk is the Ukrainian Yeltsin, the same cynical and unprincipled swindler. Believe him not to respect yourself. All Kravchuk's promises on the LPR are aimed at deceiving and destroying his people. Therefore, the situation is stalemate, the Kremlin has no desire to quickly resolve this conflict by force ... preferring to play a long game by pushing the LPNR into Ukraine through negotiations, hoping to influence Ukraine from within. But until the Bandera members are destroyed, such a policy will not bring success.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 20 November 2020 06: 39
      +5
      Lech from Android. (Lech from Android)
      Today, 06: 28
      NEW
      Very good, and rightly so! good At least Kravchuk does not deserve a positive characterization.
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 20 November 2020 08: 30
        +1
        Quote: aszzz888

        Very good, and rightly so! good At least kravchuk does not deserve a positive characterization.

        What does Kravchuk have to do with it? Lech from the android is right. The darkest wants to use the LDNR in the form of a Trojan horse by returning them to Ukraine. From the point of view of geopolitics - right. But with a human - oh-yo-yo-y.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 20 November 2020 09: 39
          0

          Krasnoyarsk
          Today, 08: 30
          NEW
          You inattentively read Lyokha's post from android. Speech, he originally had EXACTLY about kravchuk ...
          Lech from Android. (Lech from Android)
          Today, 06: 28
          19
          Kravchuk this is the Ukrainian Yeltsin,
      2. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 20 November 2020 14: 50
        0
        So is Gorbachev.
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 20 November 2020 07: 02
      +5
      preferring to play a long game of pushing the LDNR into Ukraine through negotiations, hoping to influence Ukraine from within. But until the Bandera members are destroyed, such a policy will not bring success.
      Unfortunately, this policy was initially flawed.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 November 2020 06: 36
    +5
    According to Leonid Kravchuk, who is used to changing his opinions on an ongoing basis and taking the words already spoken back,
    botalo - "a bell made of copper or iron sheet with a pestle - a" tongue "inside it, which is worn around the neck of cows and horses grazing without a shepherd" - Vika. he does not serve more. laughing
  4. Guards turn
    Guards turn 20 November 2020 06: 38
    +2
    Age affects the way of thinking + senile dementia multiplied by alcohol.
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 November 2020 06: 54
    +6
    This stupid old Banderite is missing one IMPORTANT detail, we mean by Ukraine the heiress of the Ukrainian SSR, and not the current corrupt Galician-fascist sub-state with Banderlog at the head.
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 20 November 2020 06: 59
    +3
    The state of Ukraine is arranged in an interesting way. Almost all of its former presidents are thieves and swindlers, should be in prison for betraying the interests of the people and plundering the country.
    And they live and prosper, have the audacity to teach people how to live !!!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 20 November 2020 07: 24
      -1
      It is interesting to live in Russia. Yeltsin ruined the country, and he received honor and respect.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 20 November 2020 08: 08
        +6
        Quote: Gardamir
        It is interesting to live in Russia. Yeltsin ruined the country, and he received honor and respect.

        Ha ha ha honor and respect ..............
        Monument to Yeltsin is guarded around the clock from "popular love"

      2. sergo1914
        sergo1914 20 November 2020 08: 25
        +3
        Quote: Gardamir
        It is interesting to live in Russia. Yeltsin ruined the country, and he received honor and respect.


        Try to walk along any street of any city in Russia with a portrait of Yeltsin. Check your statement.
        PS True connoisseurs can try to join the column of the Immortal Regiment with this portrait.
        PSS It is best to wear a hockey helmet with a metal mask before going out. The plastic visor won't last long, I'm afraid.
        1. Niel-le-Calais
          Niel-le-Calais 20 November 2020 11: 09
          -1
          Quote: sergo1914
          Try to walk along any street of any city in Russia with a portrait of Yeltsin

          exes are not particularly fond of. In Ukraine it is even tougher with this.
          But it did not occur to anyone to install the whole complex of Kravchuk (even with a swing to "nezalezhnist")
          about portraits. The regiment was so insulted by carrying out a portrait of Nicholas 2
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 20 November 2020 07: 22
    -4
    Someone, somewhere said that the Armenians themselves are to blame for not recognizing Karabakh. But the Kremlin also doesn't want to recognize Donbass. Moreover, many in power in Russia still have not recognized Crimea.
    1. nnm
      nnm 20 November 2020 08: 23
      +2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Moreover, many in power in Russia still have not recognized Crimea.

      For example?
  8. likana
    likana 20 November 2020 07: 23
    +1
    An inner voice suggests that a new Bohdan Khmelnitsky is already growing up in Ukraine ... Reunification is inevitable. Let Kravchuk blurt out his tongue, he can’t do anything else ...
  9. ficus2003
    ficus2003 20 November 2020 07: 35
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    Kravchuk was little sane 30 years ago, and the years were not spared at all ...

    Yes there is that any mongrel will vyaknet here on the front pages are displayed.
  10. German Titov
    German Titov 20 November 2020 07: 40
    +4
    In profile, the "sharpening" (human face) reminds him of a rat.
  11. alekc75
    alekc75 20 November 2020 07: 53
    +3
    when this Bandera will crash ????
  12. Egoza
    Egoza 20 November 2020 07: 59
    +5
    And why didn't Kravchuk say and promise! Especially the Russians, that they will not be oppressed in any way! Just vote for "Independence!" Radish! And how it turns out! "Russia says that Donbass is Ukraine" and "liberate the occupied territories." So who "occupied" them? From whom to exempt? No, he is not a "stupid person" and he is not insane! It's his rotten essence that finally feels free.
    1. Potomac
      Potomac 20 November 2020 08: 09
      -1
      I will tell you like a Russian living in Ukraine. No one has ever oppressed me for the Russian language. By and large, everyone always didn't care. And I caught sidelong glances only when, for the sake of interest, I tried to speak Ukrainian, in Lugansk, but this was before the war, in 2011.
      1. beeper
        beeper 20 November 2020 22: 51
        -1
        Only NOT gaps! negative
        "The daughter of an officer" even в the letter is visible! yes
        1. Potomac
          Potomac 21 November 2020 00: 57
          -1
          What is the officer's daughter? Or do you think that having lived so much in Ukraine, I will persistently use NA ?!
  13. novel66
    novel66 20 November 2020 08: 11
    -2
    The territory is temporarily occupied

    its inhabitants .. lol
  14. iouris
    iouris 20 November 2020 09: 42
    -1
    And the territory of Ukraine is Russia. And Kravchuk is a Russian traitor.
  15. 23424636
    23424636 20 November 2020 12: 30
    +1
    Kravchuk deserves a silver bullet as a desecration of the country in which he developed, swore allegiance and betrayed his master as a donkey. The office let this bastard through all the channels and gave a green street. And it should have been demolished. Now this one gives advice on how to enter Donbass peacefully and fill up the entire male population. To do in Donbass as in Karabakh, you need to shoot a little and not only from Turkish drones. , and perhaps Marik (Mariupol) and his owner Akhmetov can burn out and Ukraine will remain on the right bank of the Dnieper.
  16. Radikal
    Radikal 20 November 2020 20: 17
    +3
    Quote: nnm
    Quote: Gardamir
    Moreover, many in power in Russia still have not recognized Crimea.

    For example?

    Gref. sad
    1. beeper
      beeper 20 November 2020 23: 18
      -1
      Yes, unless there are only Graf-such "wagon" and also a "little trolley"! request
      But there is no need to be surprised - the old man Brzezinski lucidly explained to all of us whose interests are in fact protected by the "national elites" who hide their haunted "holdings" in other people's "bins"! fool
  17. Radikal
    Radikal 20 November 2020 23: 21
    +3
    Quote: pishchak
    Yes, unless there are only Graf-such "wagon" and also a "little trolley"! request
    But there is no need to be surprised - the old man Brzezinski lucidly explained to all of us whose interests are in fact protected by the "national elites" who hide their haunted "holdings" in other people's "bins"! fool

    The citizen asked for an example - I brought it to him right away. I agree with you that the list is much larger, but what is the final result? winked hi
    1. beeper
      beeper 21 November 2020 09: 48
      0
      Quote: Radikal

      The citizen asked for an example - I brought it to him right away. I agree with you that the list is much larger, but what is the final result? winked hi

      hi Final result, by and large, is not yet completely unambiguous and, Thank God, there is still Hope for the Best, for one Chance out of a thousand! yes
      But the "trend" with such a flawed (in all respects) "elite" is still not good, alas! what
      IMHO, I do not impose!
  18. Vic.
    Vic. 21 November 2020 13: 08
    -1
    There is nothing Ukrainian and thank God!
  19. Volder
    Volder 21 November 2020 17: 31
    -2
    Kravchuk contradicts himself. How can mercenaries occupy Donbass ?? The term "occupation" means the seizure of territory belonging to one state by another state with the help of the armed forces (regular army). Mercenaries are volunteers who have nothing to do with government agencies. Consequently, Russia did not invade or occupy Ukraine.
  20. nnz226
    nnz226 21 November 2020 20: 42
    +1
    For this unfinished Bandera, the noose and the lamppost have been crying for a long time! To paraphrase the elder Cato: "Kravchuk must be hanged!"