Armenia appealed to Baku with a request to postpone the withdrawal of troops from the Kalbajar region. Baku response received

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It became known that the Armenian authorities announced their inability to manage to withdraw all troops from the Kelbajar region within the timeframes established by the previously signed agreement. Let us remind that on the basis of the agreement, the Armenian troops must leave the territory of Karabakh and adjacent regions, which de jure belong to Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan noted that the Armenian side indirectly (through the Russian Federation) appealed to Baku with a request to shift the schedule (postpone) the withdrawal of troops from the aforementioned Kelbajar region. The reason is the limited traffic capacity of the road connecting the Kalbajar region with the Republic of Armenia. Not only military columns are walking along it, but also civilians. The road is overloaded and cannot cope with the flows at the moment.



Baku reports that they received such a request from Yerevan from the Russian side.

According to the latest information, the authorities of the Republic of Azerbaijan have decided to grant the request.

Azerbaijani press with reference to the official authorities:

This is done for humanitarian reasons.

Meanwhile, reports are coming from Karabakh about a large number of unidentified victims of the recently stopped conflict. Many soldiers are still missing. One of the reasons is that strikes were also struck in remote areas in mountainous terrain, where sanitary brigades have not yet been able to reach for the removal of "cargo 200". But operations of this nature are carried out throughout the territory of Karabakh and in the adjacent areas where battles took place.
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  1. +25
    15 November 2020 14: 42
    All that remains for the Armenians to do is to beg Azerbaijan for mercy.

    Pashinyan and the entire command of the Armenian army are traitors, they must receive life sentences !!! This is what the opposition should demand, and not the resumption of battles, where the Armenians, apart from defeat, have nothing to shine.
    1. +21
      15 November 2020 14: 48
      Well, who now has doubts, Who solved the Karabakh issue?
      Everything is only through Russia! And God forbid - to respond with fire towards Our Peacemakers.
      1. -40
        15 November 2020 15: 48
        so already the flying machine was shot down-shoved-and this is just the beginning-now they will drive the police there-who only know how to engage in extortion from citizens and they will trample corpses - home
        1. +2
          15 November 2020 15: 55
          Quote: Charik
          so already the flying machine was shot down

          The helicopter was shot down in a completely different place in Armenia (not NK), had nothing to do with the peacekeeping contingent.
          1. -30
            15 November 2020 15: 57
            it turns out-they brought down ours over the territory of another country - I know who, they took it, they left in front of the camera, they say we grieve, here's a medal for you
          2. -25
            15 November 2020 16: 19
            a helicopter of the Russian Aerospace Forces was shot down over the territory of another state - was there in the frames of peacekeepers - what is not clear here - they will continue to kill all the military from the Russian Federation
            1. +8
              15 November 2020 21: 33
              Quote: Charik
              will kill further all the military from the Russian Federation

              What are you talking about? The Georgians have already tried and received a circumcision of the territory, Prezik ate his tie, and Kikabidze went crazy. By the way, the helicopter was shot down of course by Turkish saboteurs, when Erdogan realized that he had been given a ride from Nakhichevan. And on the Turkish proxy "Akhrar Ash-Sham" on the 14th, they smeared them in Syria, after which the corpses of Turkish advisers with honors from Idlib were given to Turkish mothers to cry. We bombed the training camp and it is clear who is training. Therefore, several Turks are for ours, but the aborigines are not considered. And of course, if dirty tricks begin, then our enraged six and your great Erdogan will simply be transferred to the framework of full-fledged martyrs wassat
              1. -1
                16 November 2020 12: 24
                like an ant, I carry all sorts of garbage, was it not possible to capture or destroy those who fired at the Mi24, and-your Erdogan laughing , I only saw Turkey on TV.
                1. 0
                  17 November 2020 14: 18
                  Quote: Charik
                  like an ant carry

                  And it seemed to me another harmful insect wassat
      2. -13
        15 November 2020 15: 56
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Who solved the Karabakh issue?

        The Karabakh issue was resolved by Erdogan and Aliyev, while Russia is only a mediator.
        By the way, the Turks will soon be in Azerbaijan.

        On November 13, the Turkish parliament began drafting a resolution giving Ankara a legal basis to send units of the Turkish armed forces to Nagorno-Karabakh as part of a memorandum on the creation of a joint Russian-Turkish center to control the ceasefire between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is also preparing to sign this resolution, which will set out information about the location of the Turkish army in Nagorno-Karabakh and how it will act.






        1. +3
          15 November 2020 17: 10
          Quote: RUSS
          began drafting a resolution giving a legal basis for Ankara to send units of the Turkish armed forces to Nagorno-Karabakh

          Does Azerbaijan need it?
          1. -4
            16 November 2020 01: 35
            Quote: gsev
            Does Azerbaijan need it?

            And who will ask him? Azerbaijan is now FSE ... he drove himself under the Turkish shop. He can only be constantly overly grateful to Turkey for the victory over Armenia.
            1. 0
              16 November 2020 04: 16
              Quote: Gritsa
              Azerbaijan is now FSE ... he drove himself under the Turkish shop.

              In general, relations between Russia and Belarus show that the desire to create a single state often leads to tension in interstate relations. I think that the Turks are smart enough to behave with restraint, and the Azerbaijani leadership has the opportunity to maneuver between Russia, Europe, the United States, China, Iran and Israel in case of obsession from the Turks.
              1. -1
                16 November 2020 12: 26
                maneuvered, maneuvered, but did not catch
                1. 0
                  16 November 2020 18: 21
                  Quote: Charik
                  maneuvered, maneuvered, but did not catch

                  Now everything is just beginning. The tacking field is very wide. I guess most of all for the appearance of Turkish troops in Karabakh, Pashinyan does. Apparently, the arson of forests, cutting of gardens in the regions of Karabakh left by the Armenians are aimed at this. In order for Aliyev to stop this, it is enough to declare that the Armenians on the lands that come under Azerbaijani control are exempt from any taxes for a certain sufficiently long period, and their abandoned property will be protected by the state of Azerbaijan. This is exactly what the Turks did after the capture of Rhodes. You can also ask Putin or the leadership of Nagorno-Karabakh to appease the arsonists and minelayers and put pressure on Pashinyan and the Armenian media in this regard, so that the glorification of the arsonists on the Internet and television by the Armenians would stop, instead of guaranteeing the non-appearance of Turkish special forces on the borders of Karabakh and Armenia. If Azerbaijan is interested in the appearance of Turkish military in Azerbaijan, then arson can justify their appearance.
                  Surely such maneuvers are taking place now.
        2. +5
          15 November 2020 17: 10
          RUSS - I can make a decision on the introduction of Russian troops into Istanbul, with the return of its historical name Constantinople! The problem is implementation. ...
          1. +2
            15 November 2020 18: 05
            and what problems there may be with implementation, received a request from Azerbaijan for help, and provided, the az-ts can receive whoever they want
    2. +4
      15 November 2020 15: 31
      All that remains for the Armenians to do is to beg Azerbaijan for mercy.

      They already get it, mercy.
      According to the latest information, the authorities of the Republic of Azerbaijan have decided to grant the request.

      I hope that the wrong ones will not screw up. I don’t want our guys to shoot.
      1. +11
        15 November 2020 16: 07
        Work moment. It is good that Aliyev is showing understanding and generosity. He's only a plus for that. Although, probably, Russia applied for ... smile
        1. 0
          15 November 2020 16: 13
          Yes, there probably all the phones are torn in the Foreign Ministries, the Ministry of Defense and maybe even in the committees of soldiers' mothers, God forgive me. laughing
        2. +6
          15 November 2020 17: 34
          Greetings Vladimir!
          Before the occupation, Armenians did not live in the Kalbajar region at all. During the occupation they killed about 500 civilians, took hundreds of people, including children, hostage and gave the remaining people 10 hours to leave Kalbajr. People went through the passes in winter without warm clothes, many without shoes.
          And now 15 days on the road are not enough for them. They burn houses, cut down the forest.
          They have enough time to cut down the forest.
          1. +4
            15 November 2020 18: 44
            Quote: Albay
            Greetings Vladimir!

            Greetings, Alibek!
            Over the long years of my life I have met and communicated with many Caucasians both outside and in the Caucasus, where I have been traveling with a backpack and an ice ax. He has been fascinated by the nature and people of the Caucasus for life! Most are clean and friendly people. And how they have fun, sing and dance from the heart! But these same lovely people are sometimes very recklessly vindictive, angry and cruel ...
            Although I closely follow the Karabakh events in the media, watch videos, read about the history of Karabakh / Artsakh, but, nevertheless, I am far away. I have heard a lot about the flight of Azerbaijanis from Karabakh and Kilbajar (where they have never been). You probably know better and better. But just do not you need to whip up passions? Good? Not all Armenians burn houses, only 1-2 houses are on fire in the video, and the rest are not. And, perhaps, these are not at all the houses of the Azerbaijanis occupied by the Armenians, but their own, built by the Armenians themselves. How much forest can be cut in a week? IN GENERAL, I doubt that the evacuees are busy now with these! And there is no need to take out the evil on those who remain, in revenge, to destroy and desecrate ancient Armenian temples.
            Winners must NOT be angry and vindictive, but must be GREAT! If they are REAL winners and GOOD people. No bitterness is needed !!!
            Good luck to you!
            1. -1
              15 November 2020 21: 48
              They burned down half of the houses in Vladimir when they occupied, and now they are burning another. The fact is that before the occupation, not one Armenian lived in this area.
              There are no old Armenian temples. These non-humans have appropriated Albanian temples called them Armenian and shed crocodile tears. Hasan built that temple Khudavang (Dadivank), since when was Armenian Hasan? Why did not Armenians go to their "ancient temple" before the occupation? The Russian Orthodox Church was also privatized and called old Armenian. We are not at war with churches with women, children. They turned mosques into pigsties and destroyed to the ground in every village and city. As for the trees, I certainly said sarcastically, it's just that they have such blood. There is a video today, where Russian soldiers peacekeepers ask an Armenian there, they say, the house is dismantling figs with you, why do you need trees to rubish?
              Were fascists and remain fascists, Dashnak rags!
              Fierce, one must not forget what they did and are doing. Their crocodile tears and fake smiles cannot be trusted.
              1. +1
                16 November 2020 04: 23
                Quote: Albay
                These nonhumans appropriated Albanian temples, called them Armenian and shed crocodile tears. That temple was built by Khudavang (Dadivank) Hasan, since when was the Armenian Hasan?

                Moreover, Azerbaijan should preserve architectural monuments on its land.
              2. +1
                16 November 2020 10: 25
                Don't juggle. The Armenians did not appropriate the churches, and the majority of the property of the Albanian Orthodox Church was transferred to the Armenian Church by a royal decree during the resettlement of Armenians from Iran. True, much later, by the same tsarist decree, all property was taken away, and the Armenian Church was anathematized, for the fact that the Church, keeping weapons in churches, acted hand in hand with Armenian nationalists who made a number of attempts on the life of Russian military leaders appointed by governors in Transcaucasia.
                But this was not the case in all cases. Some temples of the Albanian Orthodox Church were bought by the Armenians from your khans even before Russia came to your lands.
                Well, the newest ones were built on their own, both before and after the annexation of Transcaucasia to Russia.
                1. -2
                  16 November 2020 22: 54
                  Greetings Azimut. I am not distorting anything, not all Albanian churches, but only a part was transferred to the Armenian church by a royal decree in the 19th century and then very quickly taken back from them. Speaking privatized, I mean now all Albanian churches are called Armenian shrines and that they were built Armenians, although even in Soviet times and in tsarist Russia they did not belong to the Armenian church. Is it not calling these churches natively Armenian, they do not privatize them? Look there is a video where this grief svyashenik claims that Khudavyang (Dadivank) was built by the Armenian prince Hasan Jalal for the Armenian church in the 7th century. This is how they fool their people and the world community. Nobody bought the Orthodox churches from our khans, since they never belonged to the khans. In Shusha, the pro-glorious church had nothing to do with the Armenian church.
          2. +3
            16 November 2020 02: 01
            Quote: Albay
            They burn down houses, cut down the forest.
            They have enough time to cut down the forest.

            Do you know anything about logging technology? Now imagine that you have been given a task to cut down a forest on an area of ​​at least 5 hectares within 10 days. I am sure that you will not even have time to fit the equipment, let alone take out the wood.
            1. 0
              16 November 2020 10: 30
              They do not cut wood according to technology laughing , but stupidly along the roads.
              In the video that I saw, they did without harvesters and skidders smile An ordinary Kamaz dump truck was cut down, hooked up, he pulled to the side of the road, and then they saw and load the dump truck, they worked with two saws, four including the carrier.
      2. NTD
        -1
        15 November 2020 20: 23
        Quote: Alexander Kopychev
        I hope that the wrong ones will not screw up. I don’t want our guys to shoot.

        In vain the Azerbaijani side gave them time. They burn not only houses, but also cut down forests and take them to Armenia. mdaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaouzh
    3. -2
      15 November 2020 15: 53
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Pashinyan and the entire command of the Armenian army are traitors

      And who did they betray?
    4. +4
      15 November 2020 17: 05
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      beg Azerbaijan for mercy

      Got it out already. The Karabakh issue has been resolved. The capacity of the road and the provision of transport allocated for internally displaced persons do not allow meeting the original deadlines. For reasons of humanity, the Azerbaijani side agreed to a shift in the deadline for the withdrawal of the Armenian population. And that's all. Aliyev cannot be sure that there will be no "excesses" on the part of his military and is doing everything so that he is not accused of genocide. Since it cannot guarantee the safety of the population, "peacekeepers" were brought in there.
      1. 0
        15 November 2020 17: 38
        When 50 thousand people of Azerbaijanis occupied Kalbajar through the passes, they were given 10 hours by the Armenian Dashnaks. And now the throughput capacity does not allow them 5 more in 15 days?
        Does the road and throughput allow them to cut down the forest every day?
        In a word, fascists!
        1. +9
          15 November 2020 19: 46
          Alibek, Hello.
          It is good that the Azerbaijanis have not become like the Dashnaks.
          The more balanced and calm Azerbaijan acts, the more chances it will quickly establish a full life.
          1. 0
            15 November 2020 22: 13
            Hello Livonets!
            It has always been this way, but the point is that the whole world, including on this site, most of them tears their shirts on for these fascists. On the face of the usual Christian solidarity, even though they are heretics for the pro-glorious church. Today's video is where Russian soldiers peacekeepers ask an Armenian, they say, is dismantling the house, it is clear why do rubish trees in the garden?
            The padonok answers I will chop.
            1. +2
              16 November 2020 04: 25
              Quote: Albay
              The padonok answers I will chop.

              If a man has grown a garden, built a house, why should he give it to the invader?
              1. 0
                17 November 2020 03: 37
                Gsev, read the comments carefully. Armenians never lived there before the occupation and these are mostly houses of Azerbaijanis and Kurds, and of course the trees were planted long before the arrival of these fascists.
                1. 0
                  17 November 2020 14: 19
                  Quote: Albay
                  Gsev, read the comments carefully. Armenians never lived there before the occupation

                  I doubt your statements. Surely not only Azerbaijanis lived in these areas. For example, Finns live not far from me, although officially there are about 20 of them in Russia. 000 km from Moscow, I met settlements where the locals did not speak Russian. That is, I could not understand their talk. The Internet does not report anything about the non-Russian rural indigenous population of the Moscow region. The border between Armenia and Azerbaijan is a conditional feature that cannot accurately divide peoples and reflect the changes that have occurred.
                  1. -1
                    18 November 2020 04: 06
                    Gsev greetings, in vain you doubt you can google before the occupation not one Armenian lived there, 90 -80 percent lived Azerbaijanis 10-20 Kurds. This area was occupied in 93 and since then, having driven out the inhabitants of the region, the Armenians have settled!
                    1. 0
                      18 November 2020 06: 15
                      Quote: Albay
                      in doubt you can google before the occupation

                      So the Internet says nothing about the non-Russian-speaking indigenous population on the border of the Moscow and Tver regions. I suppose that the Azerbaijanis during the war did not look for Armenians, just to make sure that they live in Azerbaijan and allow them to live there in peace after the census.
                      1. -1
                        18 November 2020 13: 15
                        Gsev. I didn’t say and I don’t say that Armenians are not Jews in Azerbaijan. I’m talking specifically in the Kalbajar region, except for Azerbaijanis and Kurds of other nationalities. Armenians, having driven out local residents, settled in their homes and lands. We locals probably know better. If you just want to argue or troll, this is inappropriate.
                      2. 0
                        18 November 2020 14: 07
                        Quote: Albay
                        I am speaking specifically in the Kalbajar region, apart from Azerbaijanis and Kurds of other nationalities, did not live.

                        There is data on the Internet that the 1970 census gives data that 44 Armenians, 2 Kurds and more than 33000 Azerbaijanis lived in the Kelbajar region. Other sources say that by the time the Russians came to the Caucasus, Kurds predominated in the Kelbajar region, and in the first years of Soviet power, part of its territory belonged to Kurdish autonomy. I will assume that during the census they tried to record the Kurds as Azerbaijanis. But I must note that if your words are interpreted that the Azerbaijanis before the war were overwhelmingly the main population of the region, then you are right.
            2. 0
              17 November 2020 12: 49
              heretics for the pro-Holy Church.
              What kind of church is this? There is an Orthodox Church.
          2. -1
            16 November 2020 00: 15
            Livonets here is a video where the Russian peacekeepers go nuts.
            https://youtu.be/wGw4xDWm_oQ
        2. -1
          15 November 2020 21: 27
          They are already removing telegraph poles and wires. Well, nothing, the claim for 50 billion is already ready, there will be 60 billion
          1. NTD
            -2
            16 November 2020 10: 54
            Quote: Rubina
            They are already removing telegraph poles and wires. Well, nothing, the claim for 50 billion is already ready, there will be 60 billion

            It's good that the mountains do not take with them.
      2. -2
        16 November 2020 10: 42
        Excess is already being planned, the division of Armenians headed by the priest decided to stay in the monastery until the last. The Azerbaijani analogue of "Alpha" will quickly deal with them, another trouble is that most likely the monastery will be mined, and then showing the ruins they will blame the Azerbaijani side.

        Well, how can there be excesses, if now there is a stream of videos on the same telegram channel "Caucasian Bureau" I watch - Azerbaijanis returning to their villages are filming ruined Azerbaijani graves, bones and skulls with broken teeth scattered in the former cemetery, broken monuments .. Therefore, the Armenians apparently take the bodies away from their cemeteries in the "new lands". In short, with the return of Azerbaijanis to their homes, hatred will not subside and will subside, but will flare up even more.

        Another very bad precedent with a possible bad continuation. Two Azerbaijanis who returned to their village have already been blown up by a trap left by the Armenians, one was killed, the other was heavy. Now, in ten days, the entire Kelbajar will be stuffed with mines and traps. If a mine war starts, ours can be blown up there too.
    5. NTD
      -2
      15 November 2020 20: 20
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Pashinyan and the entire command of the Armenian army are traitors

      Like if you were in Pashinyan's place, would the situation be different?)))))))))))
      1. 0
        16 November 2020 13: 27
        Quote: MTN
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Pashinyan and the entire command of the Armenian army are traitors

        Like if you were in Pashinyan's place, would the situation be different?)))))))))))

        You are misunderstanding. I believe that Ratmir proposes to judge Pashinyan not for defeat in Karabakh, but for all his short-sighted, adventurous, stupid, cunning policies that led to a LEGAL defeat. Flirted with Soros and, at the same time, tried to deceive Putin, pulling the most from Russia. He did not openly recognize Karabakh, but, at the same time, he behaved aggressively and belligerent with Azerbaijan. All this was seen by the smart, patient Aliyev and PREPAREDLY, waiting for the moment when Pashinyan would go too far. He struck at the right moment and won! And in the war, Pashinyan and his generals proved to be mediocre, in fact, abandoned the Karabakh people.
        Well, how can we not remember La Rochefoucauld? He said: "Cunning is a sign of a dull mind" and "There are no more stupid people than those who consider themselves smarter than others."

        If you want to know, two and a half years ago, I told my Armenian neighbors who were happy about Pashinyan's coming to power: “You shouldn't be happy, it won't lead to anything good, Pashinyan will drive Armenia into a corner and arrange something similar to Ukraine in Armenia. I considered Armenians to be much smarter: only very limited people can arrange something like this after the Ukrainian Maidan and a clear vision of its results. " 2,5 years have passed - my words were FULLY confirmed!
    6. Maz
      -5
      15 November 2020 20: 49
      My wife told me how they spent the winter in Yerevan at 93 in a complete blockade. ... A half-boiled egg for a three-year-old daughter for breakfast is a royal feast. In a nine-story building, minus eighteen. Stove in the window. All the men at home went to the park for firewood as a team, there was no other way - the trees were guarded by militiamen with machine guns. Bread on ration cards, you need to borrow from the evening, you will lose the number - stop again. A neighbor's one-year-old child drank up at night - the parents did not notice asleep, they did not notice - he froze alive. We came here - the mother-in-law weighed forty-five kilograms. Doshi's wife cannot stop until she clogs up the refrigerator. And all the Georgians didn't care. Russia itself was barely surviving. You can consider me a monster and an infection, a misanthropist, but I would mine every square millimeter in those lands that Armenians leave. With perversions, surprises, triple non-removability, and secrets in secrets, without conscience and decency. Let their Baku sappers learn. It is not for them to control a drone from a tablet.
      1. +3
        15 November 2020 21: 30
        This is necessary, as the Armenian malice is contagious. Not an Armenian, and his wife infected him.
        In the 89s, it was hard for everyone. Not only Armenia. And Azerbaijan graciously gave another 10 days so that the Armenians could take out the toilet bowls.
        People see everything and draw conclusions
      2. +2
        16 November 2020 10: 45
        Didn't understand anything about Georgians, why were they remembered? By the way, they had the same mulka, all parks were cut down in winter.

        As for the rest, it was ridiculous to expect supplies of gas, fuels and lubricants or electricity from Azerbaijan, with which the Armenians fought.
    7. +4
      16 November 2020 05: 14
      A year and a half ago, the opposition demanded Sargsyan's resignation. At the same time, remember how Russian liberals were inspired by the bold act of the Armenian people! Why don't our liberals say how good things are in Armenia now?
    8. 0
      16 November 2020 17: 52
      What kind you are. For such and the legislation can be changed. And martial law is in effect. The rope is safer.
  2. +6
    15 November 2020 14: 45
    The Armenian authorities reported on the inability to manage to withdraw all troops from the Kelbajar region within the timeframe established by the previously signed agreement.

    Fig-le signed?
    The rubber is pulled ... IMHO ...
    1. -4
      15 November 2020 14: 49
      Kurds live there - Yezidis. They don't like this circus, so there are options.
    2. -9
      15 November 2020 14: 50
      Quote: Mouse
      The Armenian authorities reported on the inability to manage to withdraw all troops from the Kelbajar region within the timeframe established by the previously signed agreement.

      Fig-le signed?
      The rubber is pulled ... IMHO ...

      There will be no massacre. Azerbaijanis will not touch any Armenian. The massacre is bad for business.
      1. +12
        15 November 2020 14: 53
        Massacre and rubber are fundamentally different things ... don't you think?
        Well, everyone thinks to the best of their depravity ...
        1. -1
          15 November 2020 15: 01
          Uppppss. My carelessness. feel
          1. +10
            15 November 2020 15: 04
            It happens ... you pass off wishful thinking ... hi
          2. +1
            15 November 2020 19: 40
            Quote: professor
            Uppppss. My carelessness. feel

            Plusanul for the shown sanity drinks
      2. +11
        15 November 2020 15: 29
        Quote: professor
        There will be no massacre. Azerbaijanis will not touch any Armenian. The massacre is bad for business.

        And in 1920, when the Armenian population of Shushi (up to 30 thousand people) was massacred and the city burned down, was it good for business? Is it also good for business during the Baku and Sumgait massacres? It wasn't that long ago. No, it's better if you don't trust anyone and don't let things take their course.
        1. +3
          15 November 2020 15: 57
          In 1918, the Armenians staged a massacre in Baku and killed everyone. materials on this case on the internet (investigations were conducted by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the USSR Prosecutor's Office)
        2. -1
          15 November 2020 16: 32
          and you rummage in the internet and see how many victims were sumgaite, one chikatilo killed more people.
        3. 0
          15 November 2020 17: 06
          Quote: astepanov
          And in the year 1920

          And in 2020, that's bad for business. Fraught.
        4. -3
          16 November 2020 00: 18
          In 1920, even three thousand Armenians were not in Shusha, but they tried to seize Shusha and got a hat.
          1. +2
            16 November 2020 10: 12
            Quote: Albay
            In 1920, even three thousand Armenians were not in Shusha, but they tried to seize Shusha and got a hat.
            But you don't need to invent, but you need to look for real data. In 1916, 23396 Armenians lived in Shushi (53,3% of the total population). By March 1920, 93 Armenians remained, the city was almost completely burned and destroyed. The wells were filled with corpses, young women were raped and then shot, property was plundered. In addition to Shushi, they expelled and partially destroyed the population of the surrounding villages.
            It must be said that the Armenian nationalists were not white and fluffy either, the massacre in Shushi was preceded by numerous cases of killings of Muslims by Armenians.
            Subsequent events - the tragedy in Khojaly, etc. - links in the chain of mutual hatred. Only Russia's intervention (not episodic, but for many decades) will stop the killings.
        5. 0
          16 November 2020 10: 50
          There was a response. The massacre was mutual, the Armenians leaving Turkey under the command of Dro and Adranik went through with fire and sword.

          Sumgait was needed to start bloodshed, formally Azerbaijanis can say that this is the work of Armenians, since they were the direct executors, the same Sumgayit is the work of Armenian Eduard Grigoryan, who, by the way, calmly now lives in Armenia, but the threads lead far to the West and to. .. Moscow to the opponents of the USSR and their local servants.
    3. +2
      15 November 2020 17: 50
      The forest is cut down, the farmsteads are mined, houses are burned down.
      1. +1
        16 November 2020 02: 08
        Quote: Albay
        mine farmsteads

        But mining had to be done before the war, and not after a lost war.
  3. +10
    15 November 2020 14: 50
    In 1993, Armenians did not give such indulgences to Azerbaijanis:
    1. +3
      15 November 2020 15: 42
      Interesting article on the topic
      https://haqqin.az/news/193950
    2. The comment was deleted.
      1. +1
        15 November 2020 16: 30
        This is gluing. The first part of the video is filming in 1993, everything else was filmed the other day.
    3. +1
      15 November 2020 18: 17
      Who knows what the people in the video are talking about?
      1. +2
        15 November 2020 21: 33
        The Armenians speak Azerbaijani: Armenian troops entered Kelbajar and Lachin, we give the civilian population a corridor, you have 10 hours to leave.
  4. +7
    15 November 2020 14: 54
    Naturally, Azerbaijan will agree to this. But it is embarrassing that the Armenians, when leaving, even cut down the trees so that the Azerbaijanis do not get it.
    1. +9
      15 November 2020 15: 04
      Quote: Bakinec
      Naturally, Azerbaijan will agree to this. But it is embarrassing that the Armenians, when leaving, even cut down the trees so that the Azerbaijanis do not get it.

      Plant new ones! You will buy seedlings ... I need Pear, that's the trouble with her, only dummies. Details and money via PM wink Well, I really need a Pear, Your pomegranate does not grow in Our conditions sad have to buy crying very good and Chinar juice is Great!
      1. +10
        15 November 2020 15: 16
        You will plant a seedling, throw some old piece of iron into the hole. Although the tin can is rusty. Or try driving a small carnation into the trunk of a tree that has grown strong, but does not produce fruit.
        Fruit trees do not have enough iron to produce fruit.
        This is how I was taught in Crimea.
        1. +5
          15 November 2020 15: 21
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          You will plant a seedling, throw some old piece of iron into the hole. Although the tin can is rusty. Or try driving a small carnation into the trunk of a tree that has grown strong, but does not produce fruit.
          Fruit trees do not have enough iron to produce fruit.
          This is how I was taught in Crimea.

          Ekarny bogeyman ... what - what, and iron in Tyumen in abundance! All rivers are brown! So the Terminator will be born! wink
          1. +2
            15 November 2020 15: 22
            For what I bought, for what I sell. And in Tyumen, it is generally difficult to grow fruit trees. My brother's cousin lives there, complains that at the dacha there is no great variety)))
            1. +6
              15 November 2020 15: 27
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              For what I bought, for what I sell. And in Tyumen, it is generally difficult to grow fruit trees. My brother's cousin lives there, complains that at the dacha there is no great variety)))

              Let him dig deeper and fertilize better! Plum, Kklubnika, watermelon, apricot, cherry ... Apples - Sea! Plus our attractions ... Cranberry - Lingonberry - Cloudberry - Wild Raspberry! But this is already in the forest and swamp!
              Even me, lazy person - Everything is! tongue
              1. 0
                15 November 2020 15: 33
                Yes, he has different varieties of apple trees and irga!
                Well, and "crying" that the rest freezes.
                However, he and the summer resident "no". My aunt is the boss there.
                1. +6
                  15 November 2020 15: 36
                  That's all clear laughing Irga and Bird cherry are immortal trees! lol our must-have vitamins!
                  Buy a shovel for him, and before handing it over - cut it once on the head ... not much - for educational purposes wink
                  1. +2
                    15 November 2020 15: 39
                    Not. He is good. But ... Geek. This already sounds like a diagnosis. Works as a sysadmin. Far from the earth, but at least not a parasite. Whatever he wants, let him sit down. And grows.
                    1. +6
                      15 November 2020 15: 50
                      Let Tapinambur plant! It grows by itself - and everything is jamming around! Good for diabetics, and it goes well in a salad wink ... The main thing is that no care is needed!
                      1. +2
                        15 November 2020 16: 06
                        Well, then there's also hell for half the plot - you can stock up on popcorn and place bets on who will seize the plot!)) laughing
                      2. +9
                        15 November 2020 16: 16
                        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                        Well, then there's also hell for half the plot - you can stock up on popcorn and place bets on who will seize the plot!)) laughing

                        Neighbor .... Gad! I planted it by the fence, I was happy last year, I dug up two bags. This year I was on my guard sad collected 11 bags ... next - apparently I'll go beat him Yes
            2. +6
              15 November 2020 16: 09
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              For what I bought, for what I sell

              Without a thorough analysis of the soil, do not buy, much less sell (Fraud on the Internet, article 159 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) laughing
              Article 14.3 of the Administrative Code of the Russian Federation (imposition of an administrative fine on citizens in the amount of two thousand to two thousand five hundred rubles): belay
              So please be more attentive, more attentive ... Otherwise, the guys from the north will easily let you down under the article when in Magadan plum-pears bend, nailed to the anvil by 200 wassat
              PS nothing personal drinks
        2. +2
          15 November 2020 16: 35
          This is empty, from the stories of B.B.S. Don't waste time, find out the composition of the soil and proceed from this data.
        3. +1
          15 November 2020 17: 23
          They taught correctly)
      2. +4
        15 November 2020 15: 19
        With pleasure, but unfortunately I'm not a specialist in this matter.
      3. +3
        15 November 2020 17: 53
        Hunting expert, remember the film the father of a soldier.
        There the tanker ran over a vine and the old man burns him. Did you plant this tree, water it?

        Their insides are so fascist!
  5. +4
    15 November 2020 15: 11
    And many spoke about the bloodthirstiness of Azerbaijanis ... What do you think the Armenians would have done the same ?!
    1. +9
      15 November 2020 15: 30
      In 1993, in a similar situation, they gave the Azerbaijani population 10 hours without any delay, and the Azerbaijanis fled from the region practically without anything, many barefoot.
  6. +11
    15 November 2020 15: 21
    If purely humanly, then in order to avoid a humanitarian catastrophe, the extension of the withdrawal period is necessary. People and soldiers are not to blame, politicians are to blame. Azerbaijan, in principle, is morally satisfied with the result of the victory and demonstrating its consent, additionally gains political points in terms of the fact that, on the one hand, it shows peacefulness, on the other hand, readiness for further dialogue. As for the economic satisfaction of Baku, the Armenians are facing big losses and it will be much more difficult for them to negotiate.
    1. -1
      15 November 2020 17: 56
      Nyrobsky: Why are people not to blame?
      Armenians have never lived in this area. We had to think when we settled in other people's houses and came to yards and land. We were always peaceful, but this does not affect the Dashnaks.
      1. +6
        15 November 2020 19: 33
        Quote: Albay
        Nyrobsky: Why are people not to blame?

        You see, Alibek, people are not to blame for the very reason that it does not always depend on them who to fight with and who to be friends with. Take you for example (sorry YOU) - how many complaints do YOU ​​have against GAGIK just on a personal plane? You and GAGIK in the same Moscow, Madrid, Paris, Ufa and Syktyvkar, you may well live like a neighbor, because neither GAGIK runs after you with an ax, nor you follow him with a stool. You lived in the same way under the USSR, when you lived side by side with collective farms, state farms, used the same roads and rivers with streams flowed equally for everyone. But here is the "yoshkin cat" there were a couple of three political mu and labukhs who crossed out almost 100 years of normal coexistence and took out the ax of war from under the sleeping ram. Who got it easier? Taking into account the first and second Karabakh wars, up to 50 thousand men were killed (I'm not sure there may be more) + civilian casualties! Those who lived side by side in the USSR for decades yesterday. These 50 thousand did not give birth to their children, and since the 90s this is two generations. If one child is 50 thousand, if two, then 100 thousand are not born. One hundred thousand are those who today could give birth to 150-300 thousand children for these republics, which is a sensitive loss for the peoples of 10 million. For you (Armenia and Azerbaijan), Karabakh performs the function of sterilization. Who is enabling this feature? Peoples? No! Politicians? Yes! It is the politicians who, in search of support from the electorate, raise outdated topics and pick out old wounds in order to ensure their entry into power on blood. Well, here I am, Russian. Today I went to the shoemaker, he is Armenian, gave his wife's boots to change the heels, passing through the market along the way, bought tomatoes from an Azerbaijani, met with a neighbor, he is a Chuvash, chatted about fishing, and called a friend, he is a Komi, about how his the hunting season is passing, we have built two hunting huts with him. Well, I have no desire to fight with any of them, since on a personal level, none of us have claims to each other. Although, with some caution I look at the shoemaker and the tomato, so that if something happens, I do not let them clash with each other.
        1. -1
          15 November 2020 22: 04
          Nyrobsky, the point is that most of the Russians know the history of this conflict very poorly and are trying to teach us, because first from the secular media, and now the Russian ones are pouring mud in the direction of Azerbaijan and justifying the Armenians in everything, from out-of-date liberals to the Shcheinins and Solovyovs. I and the Azerbaijanis say, but the Armenians that they cannot coexist with us. Their former President Kocharian said that they are genetically incompatible with us and more than once ordinary Armenians talk about this in interviews. No one country would be outraged by such speeches. We would be like that. said the whole world would tear fart. Therefore, I say they have a fascist ideology. In other countries, they smile deceitfully and knowing that in Moscow only harm themselves live peacefully.
          I want you to understand I need you to fight with someone. I myself am a military man and I know how to fight and became a military man because of these non-people. Politicians are born by the people, they committed terrorist acts back in the days of the USSR. This people is fooled by the false idea of ​​"Great Armenia ", about the greatness and incredible antiquity of the people and therefore all their misfortunes and plus also bring misfortunes to others and, first of all, neighbors ..
          1. +2
            15 November 2020 22: 59
            Yes, this is all clear Alibek. In this conflict, I adhere to neutrality and do not support either Armenians or Azerbaijanis. I have enough acquaintances both Azerbaijanis (at one time I happened to live in Baku in the Ahmedli region) and Armenians, and therefore I am generally against this showdown. I do not understand anything else. The Soviet government made everyone equal, during this time all the bloodlines had already calmed down and lived normally in the neighborhood. Why did they dig the ax of war in the 90s? Now this war will arise periodically and constantly. This truce will not end. At one time, Yevgeny Maksimovich Primakov offered Ter Petrosyan to cede the disputed areas of Karabakh, to which he refused. Then Primakov said (not literally, but somehow) - "Azerbaijan knows how to work and wait. It will take 10, 20, 30 years and he will regain these territories." He looked into the water. It seems that now Yerevan will be engaged in the accumulation of weapons and reforming the army, so that in 10, 20, 30 years it will take revenge. It is a pity that Baku and Yerevan cannot come to an agreement and find such a formula of neighborhood that would ensure peace in this land for both Armenians and Azerbaijanis. hi
            1. -3
              16 November 2020 00: 34
              Nerobsky, so all this was done with the support of the political leadership of the USSR. Tell me why, out of nowhere, at the end of 87, they started shouting miatsum in Karabakh and Armenia, while the Soviet leadership was silent. Why in the same year 200 thousand Azerbaijanis were expelled from Armenia and about 100 people were killed and Moscow was silent again?
              Why were the beaten and humiliated refugees placed in Sumgait and Baku?
              Why the crowds of pogromists in Sumgait were led by Armenian Eduard Grigoryan, but the leadership of the USSR and the Soviet media were silent about this. Grigoryan, who killed 6 out of 18 Armenians and raped the Melkumyan sisters, was arrested by the Prosecutor General's Office of the USSR and sentenced by the Soviet court to 15 years, but not a word about this The world accuses Azerbaijanis? Three more Armenians were arrested, including a passport officer who gave Grigoryan the lists and addresses of the Armenians who had to be attacked. Why was this not widely covered? Why was Grigoryan immediately handed over to Armenia and why was the murderer of Armenians released in Armenia 3 years later?
              Why is this man openly living in Russia in the Oldopolitan region? Google there is a video about this criminal called "echo of Sumgait". So, pushing these fascists, you all pushed them to commit crimes, and then shrug your hands, saying why don't you get along. How can you get along with the Nazis? People living with absurd ideas?
              1. 0
                16 November 2020 11: 05
                Does Grigorian live in Stavropol now? Not in Armenia?
                They said at one time that behind all the so-called. People's Fronts, Rukhs, etc., And including behind Grigoryan, there was the KGB of the USSR, is there anything to see about this, read something close to documentary?
                1. -1
                  17 November 2020 03: 44
                  The azimuth in the sub-mask lives on.

                  https://www.kavkaz-uzel.eu/blogs/83772/posts/23845
                  Not only Grigoryan was there, and Ohanyan, Edward's brothers, I remember a woman was a passport officer in the case, the name Zhanna, I don’t remember the last name, but all this was silent.
                  There is a book by Aslan Ismayilov, the senior investigator for particularly important cases of the USSR Prosecutor's Office. Now I will find and give a link.
                2. 0
                  17 November 2020 03: 51
                  Azimuth, there are three parts in a row in a row and there is a book and materials of the case in the PDF.

                  https://1news.az/mobile/news/aslan-ismailov-chernyy-yanvar-i-sumgayytskie-sobytiya-eto-zven-ya-odnoy-cepi
    2. -4
      15 November 2020 18: 24
      Azerbaijan will be satisfied when Khankendi is liberated and when Russian and Turkish soldiers leave the country and the oil BIPI.
      1. 0
        15 November 2020 19: 53
        Alena, Hello!
        Why BP?
        1. -2
          15 November 2020 21: 55
          Occupants for no reason.
      2. +3
        15 November 2020 20: 02
        Quote: Alena-Baku
        Azerbaijan will be satisfied when Khankendi is liberated and when Russian and Turkish soldiers leave the country and the oil BIPI.

        Alena, don't you think that you want too much for Azerbaijani satisfaction, given that Azerbaijan was formed in 1918 thanks to Russia? Earlier, you somehow stayed more and more in the Ottomans, then in Iran? Do not rush to de-Russify, as this path may lead you to the loss of sovereignty. Russia, badly - poor, but as the successor of the USSR, is your guarantor. If you, as a trump card in the Karabakh issue, use the decisions of a century ago, then what will happen if Iran puts forward its claims to your territory, appealing to the fact that once this territory belonged to Iran? You see, in the process of waving the kula (ch) kami, the main thing is not to forget that history has sledgehammers against these fists. As for yours - "and Turkish soldiers", apparently you are generally far from realizing those losses (in terms of Azerbaijan's sovereignty), which, with the assistance of the Turks, paid for the successful strikes against the NKR forces. There is such an expression - "If the claw is stuck, then the whole bird is over." The Turks successfully used Baku to advance their interests and at the same time deprived it of the advantages in the form of neutrality and the possibility of political maneuver, and now it will be forced to follow in the direction that Ankara asks, which will undoubtedly cause tension with its closest neighbors Russia and Iran. I don’t think this will benefit Baku, just as it did Ankara. You are just being used.
        1. -3
          15 November 2020 21: 53
          Azerbaijan has never been part of the Ottomans. And the guarantor from Iran is the entry into the CSTO and not some foreign soldiers on the territory of Azerbaijan.
    3. -3
      16 November 2020 00: 22
      Nyrobsky, according to my information, the local population has already left the area. As far as I understand, some Dashnak detachments are poking around and refusing to withdraw their troops!
  7. -5
    15 November 2020 15: 23
    It’s not the Armenians and the Azerbaijanis who decide here. And Russia.
  8. +3
    15 November 2020 15: 34
    The Armenians, of course, need time. To cut down the trees at last, lay mines and unscrew the toilet, it also takes time.
    1. +1
      15 November 2020 17: 42
      This is an Armenian essence ☝️
  9. +5
    15 November 2020 15: 39
    Armenians want time to remove the asphalt from the roads. They even take a toilet bowl and coffins with them. And the fact that they cannot simply serve fire. Photo of Aghdam region on the right Azerbaijan on the left Armenia. Who are the barbarians?
    1. -1
      15 November 2020 20: 25
      Quote: Master
      Who are the barbarians?

      The point is not in the "barbarians", but in the fact that the Armenians were temporary workers there.
      PS
      coordinates 40.080005 47.0110924
      1. -4
        16 November 2020 00: 39
        Professor barbarians or sick people call it what you want.
        https://youtu.be/wGw4xDWm_oQ
        1. -1
          16 November 2020 08: 22
          Quote: Albay
          Professor barbarians or sick people call it what you want.
          https://youtu.be/wGw4xDWm_oQ

          They just don't like you.
  10. +3
    15 November 2020 15: 44
    Looking at the photo, I remembered the words from the song Tsoi-Voina the case of the young, a medicine against wrinkles
  11. -3
    15 November 2020 15: 46
    Quote: Rubina
    Unscrew the toilet, it also takes time.

    So in the new place of the toilet there will not be a new one, most likely for the first time a toilet of the "point" class.
    But it is not clear whether our peacekeepers are going to do a cleanup of the controlled territory or not?
  12. -5
    15 November 2020 16: 22
    there are 2 options, either - he let the enemy into his garden - or they stretch out their army in order to get rid of it one by one, and so the next war with Turyachina is 100% so greasing
    1. -2
      15 November 2020 17: 38
      NATO will fit in for Turkey only if the Turks almost win.
      Erdogan's main "chYudo-weapon" is drones. But they have lost and used up so many of their drones in Karabakh that they are unlikely to make up for the losses in the near future. But Erdogan is cunning and cunning, although finances sing romances.
      1. 0
        15 November 2020 19: 25
        Quote: iouris
        NATO will fit in for Turkey only if the Turks almost win.
        Erdogan's main "chYudo-weapon" is drones. But they have lost and used up so many of their drones in Karabakh that they are unlikely to make up for the losses in the near future. But Erdogan is cunning and cunning, although finances sing romances.

        As many as two
  13. 0
    15 November 2020 17: 40
    Armenians do not have time to twist toilets
  14. 0
    15 November 2020 17: 59
    Meanwhile, Turkey's gold and foreign exchange reserves approached zero, and the economic situation deteriorates sharply. So it goes, Erdogan, in order to sit still, Constantinople will have to put up for auction.
  15. -1
    15 November 2020 18: 08
    The behavior of the winner, immediately rhetoric, the Armenians ask, the Azerbaijanis allow
  16. +1
    15 November 2020 19: 31
    I am saddened, Azerbaijani artillery would rumble in the streets of Yerevan. Forgive me. crying
  17. 0
    15 November 2020 19: 36
    Quote: Summer Resident452
    Meanwhile, Turkey's gold and foreign exchange reserves approached zero, and the economic situation deteriorates sharply. So it goes, Erdogan, in order to sit still, Constantinople will have to put up for auction.

    Uh-huh, try to divide .....

    Russia strikes at Turkey and grabs the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus with Ankara. Well, at the same time all of Azerbaijan, so as not to get up twice. On the other hand, the Turks are attacked by Syria, Iraq and Hezbollah. The Greeks are cleaning up Cyprus. Enchantingly !!!

    On the sly, you can also grab Armenia and Georgia - why waste time on trifles.  laughingShow the Russian trade balance and the amount of gold reserves to Erdogan, and he will accept Orthodoxy.   laughing
    1. -6
      16 November 2020 01: 04
      Forgive me ivanushka or pear drunken cider, right now Belarus kirdykut and hello Ryazan
  18. 0
    15 November 2020 19: 45
    The question is technical.
    Because the reason is real and there can be no other answer from Azerbaijan. For what can he be? Now that the Russian brigade is already there.
    Should I try to write something and apologize? Through the lips of Bulbul-oglu?
    It will be very expensive and still painful, there are no "accidents" here.
    But being generous and demonstrating this is the right policy, and it also adds points to Aliyev, who brilliantly chose the time and tactics of action, and even rhetoric.
    Azerbaijanis were lucky with him - that's for sure, not some Elchibey and not Pashinyan, a figure of a different scale. I have staked out my place in the local pantheon for centuries.
    Although, his task now is no simpler than to recapture these areas - to prevent in reality in relation to those Armenians who nevertheless remain in place in the transferred areas, no repressions and even more reprisals.
    And for this, he may have to become cruel and principled in relation to his own.
    However, there is an example - to take only the orders and orders of the Stalinist Headquarters in 45, and the practice of the work of the tribunals - then they were able, and after all, there was no less hatred and reasons for it then, but much more.
    1. -3
      16 November 2020 00: 41
      The question is not technical. The civilians left the area, the Dashnak bandits resisted.
  19. +1
    16 November 2020 01: 47
    Quote: Albay
    The question is not technical. The civilians left the area, the Dashnak bandits resisted.

    Propaganda slogans are not very appropriate here, because it is not clear who they are designed for.
    If you want my opinion - both sides should have been slammed back in 1988, it would have been better for everyone, and there would have long been peace-friendship-chewing gum and mixed families.
    But then the bandit Gorbachev was in charge with the bandit Shevardnadze and Yakovlev. I don’t know whether they are Dashnak or Wahhabi, but they helped to strengthen both of them.
  20. 0
    16 November 2020 03: 55
    Quote: johnatan.kowalski
    Forgive me ivanushka or pear drunken cider, right now Belarus kirdykut and hello Ryazan

    Pole is not Russian laughing If a person does not understand humor, it is dangerous.
    Humor, the ability to translate everyday communication into a humorous tone, into comedic forms, is simply vital.

    For the health of the mind and body. And for normal communication. laughing A person who does not understand humor, in my opinion, is simply a dangerous person with some kind of mental disabilities. If a person does not understand humor, then he obviously has a limited consciousness. For it is not able to reflect and understand the opposite, often comedic, seamy side of life.

    And this, excuse me, already speaks of the primitiveness of this person.
  21. 0
    16 November 2020 11: 27
    Aliyev would still get away from the Turks ... Along the way, the Turks are trying to raise a wave in Azerbaijan against Aliyev, they say he let the Russians in, with such a leader Azerbaijan cannot be defeated, they say he is pro-Russian, etc.

    The Turks steadily ran into the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan, who treats them with coldness, as well as us, and the Iranians, and anyone else in terms of interfering in their army affairs. They were accused of working for the GRU, which is fashionable after the Crimea, etc. Then they started talking about the stupidity of all Azerbaijani officers with a Soviet / Russian military education, including the Minister of Defense. And now the president's turn has come.
    If our Mi-24 was also shot down by an Azerbaijani shooter, but on the command of the Turks, then it's generally fun there ...

    From the fun. Experiencing financial problems, "unobtrusively" they offer Azerbaijan participation in their program of a 5th generation fighter, air defense systems, OTRK and other weapons, it is clear as a sponsor - itching to pinch a fat chicken laughing
    On this, most likely, Azerbaijan can part with Turkey. Friendship is friendship, but on money and not such guys quarreled laughing