Ukraine intends to explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids together with NASA

American rocket "Antares" with the central block of the 1st stage from the Ukrainian "Yuzhmash"

It became known that Ukraine signed an agreement with the US National Aerospace Agency (NASA). The agreement will operate within the framework of the intergovernmental program for cooperation between Washington and Kiev. Officially, the name of this agreement sounds like "Artemis" and provides for "cooperation in the exploration and exploration of outer space for peaceful purposes."

What is included in the program?

For example, we are talking about a joint study of asteroids, comets, as well as such space objects as Mars and the Moon.

In particular, the program "Artemis", in which Ukraine intends to actively participate, provides for scientific issues related to the study of celestial bodies. The part of the program that attracts special attention is the extraction and use of space resources. It is argued that such activities will be carried out exclusively within the framework of the existing Outer Space Treaty.

There is also a clause in the program that the signatories of the agreement under the Artemis program “undertake to preserve the space heritage”.

The head of the Ukrainian State Space Agency (UGKA) Vladimir Usov noted that this is a very important event for Ukraine:

This is an important step, which is a logical continuation of our entry into the MVA (Moon Village Association).

According to Mr. Usov, Ukrainian projects for the first time became "part of the global scenario for the exploration of the Moon and other space bodies."

Comments

[VORON538]

Will they supply Ukrainian borscht and bacon to American cosmonauts? Astronauts have their own at least? There is almost no aviation, the fleet-imported vessels will be used, but still there. To space

[krot]

Well that's it! Now NASA will do better than ever!

[Orange bigg]

Of course. So many Ukrainians will want to move to the moon because of the chaos that is happening in Ukraine. Just what will these space settlers pay?

[Machito]

Yuzhmash is breathing on fire, but they are still there: give them the Moon and Mars. There is nothing to do on Earth. How are Ukrainian nuclear power plants doing there? There will be no second Chernobyl?

[venik]

Quote: Bearded

Yuzhmash is breathing in an incense, but they are still there: give them the Moon and Mars. There is nothing to do on Earth.

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What's that !!! Soon Alpha Centauri conquer start ..... With the help of NASA of course!

"Who's on Rex and me?"

[Machito]

Yuzhmash is needed by NASA only as scrap metal so that there are fewer competitors. The only project, Sea Launch, was contracted.

[mole]

Usov V. is not a journalist by training for an hour !?

[RUSS]

Quote: Bearded

Give them the moon and Mars

2018 year.
Putin confirmed plans to implement the Lunar program. "Are we going to the moon?" - asked the astronauts. "Yes," the head of state nodded. "The program is designed until 2030. Work on the creation of the Federation spacecraft is already ending and work has begun on a super-heavy rocket, which should be used to work on the Moon." “So there is no doubt about it: we will work actively, we will implement this program,” he assured.
"First, the station is in lunar orbit, and then - the modules on the Moon itself. In any case, this is planned," Putin said. "I hope that it will be so."

[fruc]

The dill will sweep the cosmodrome. Well killed!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: krot

Now NASA will do better than ever!

Having such companions, they will not go anywhere.

[orionvitt]

Ukraine intends to explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids together with NASA

How do you like that, Ilon Musk?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: orionvitt

How do you like that, Ilon Musk?

Elon Max had seen enough of these when he lived in Pretoria.

[Turanov]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: krot

Now NASA will do better than ever!

Having such companions, they will not go anywhere.

Strange news, I thought that everything that was left on the Outskirts of the (non-destroyed) China cleaned out all the less valuable ..
In general, who is a lawyer will understand this

There is also a clause in the program stating that the signatories of the agreement within

It's just a bluff of these agreements .. If the agreement was specific.
In my opinion, this is just a show-off in front of Russia and its duped people, the junta of Kiev .. There are no technologies and developments left in Ukraine
Even yesterday there was news that Russia is closing its sales offices in Ukraine and the Baltics! There is NOTHING to trade with THEM .. The scammers.!
P, S. And Elon Musk probably nervously lit a cigarette in my office ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Turanov

It's just a bluff of these agreements .. If the agreement was specific.

With whom agreements! It's as if Rotenberg and a homeless man agreed to build the Crimean bridge.

[Turanov]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Turanov

It's just a bluff of these agreements .. If the agreement was specific.

With whom agreements! It's as if Rotenberg and a homeless man agreed to build the Crimean bridge.

This is exactly how I wanted to explain Vlad ..

[Nemo1976]

Quote: Turanov

In my opinion it's just show-off

I totally agree with you. Ponty is the only thing they can do in Ukraine.

[RUSS]

Quote: Nemo1976

I totally agree with you. Ponty is the only thing they can do in Ukraine.

This is exactly what our officials show-off cheap pounding)))

Russia plans to land astronauts on the moon after 2028, when tests of a super-heavy lunar rocket begin, said Dmitry Rogozin, general director of Roscosmos, on the Soloviev LIVE YouTube channel.

According to him, landing on the Moon will allow to work out technologies for landing on other celestial bodies, "primarily asteroids", which can become a source of useful substances, unlike the Moon.

[slipped]

Quote: RUSS

Russia plans to land astronauts on the moon after 2028, when tests of a super-heavy lunar rocket begin

Sure. A super-heavy rocket and is being created for manned and landing spacecraft. A quarter later, dynamic bench tests of the rocket module begin.

Quote: RUSS

According to him, landing on the Moon will allow to work out technologies for landing on other celestial bodies, "primarily asteroids", which can become a source of useful substances, unlike the Moon.

Landing on an asteroid is essentially a docking. And our docking is well developed.

[common man]

Quote: krot

Well that's it! Now NASA will do better than ever!

Wait, they will still squeeze Mask out of the launch market.

[Turanov]

Quote: man in the street

Quote: krot

Well that's it! Now NASA will do better than ever!

Wait, they will still squeeze Mask out of the launch market.

Enough to make me laugh, I can't even sip beer anyway, I can't normally ...

[cat Rusich]

Quote: man in the street

Quote: krot

Well that's it! Now NASA will do better than ever!

Wait, they will still squeeze Mask out of the launch market.

Immediately after the construction of Hyperloop - remember such a project in Ukraine? ...

Perhaps NASA signed a contract with Ukraine to build Hyperloop on the Moon and Mars ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: cat Rusich

Immediately after the construction of Hyperloop - remember such a project in Ukraine? ...

This project is almost complete. In five years, only the pipes of the Ukrainian GTS will have to be ventilated from the remaining gas, and that's it, it will be possible to dive through an empty pipe into Europe with trunks and string bags, on skateboards or roller skates.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: man in the street

Wait, they will still squeeze Mask out of the launch market.

They will put on the counter.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: krot

Well that's it! Now NASA will do better than ever!

The inhabitants of Bolshie Vasyuki are sympathetic to the Ukrainian plans to conquer space.

[smart ass]

I remember how the ancient Ukrainians built a wall separating them from Russia. Did they complete this project?

[Orange bigg]

For what purpose are you interested? There is such a situation that if only to blame at least to Mars, at least to some asteroid, and you all ask about the wall. About it all have long been safely forgotten.

[smart ass]

One megaproject was not completed, the second was taken)

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Clever man

One megaproject was not completed, the second was taken)

The Great Wall of China is visible from near-earth orbit. And Yatsenyuk's wall should be visible from Mars. Therefore, at present, the implementation of the first project has been suspended due to its insufficient grandeur. It is being consolidated globally.

[Brturin]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Everyone had forgotten about her for a long time.

As soon as they forget about Hyperloop ... they started, they established a Transport Innovation Center in Dnipro ... two years have passed, a new minister has come - "I know that the previous Minister of Infrastructure was a supporter of this project. I am also a supporter of everything supernew, modern, progressive, but we must understand the realities of our life ".... now the program" Artemis "... let's wait ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Clever man

I remember how the ancient Ukrainians built a wall separating them from Russia. Did they complete this project?

So no one is already giving money for the completion.

[orionvitt]

Quote: tihonmarine

So no one is already giving money for the completion.

Let them first finish building a banal bridge across the Dnieper in Zaporozhye. Muryzhat is already twenty years old. Space conquerors damn it .... nye.

[RUSS]

Quote: orionvitt

Let them first finish building a banal bridge across the Dnieper in Zaporozhye.

So ours across the Lena in Yakutia cannot start building a bridge, although the Kremlin promised ... ... before the elections.

[Reviews]

Quote: Clever man

I remember how the ancient Ukrainians built a wall separating them from Russia. Did they complete this project?

No, they put all the bricks on the tower and reached the moon, now they are offering it to amers for the construction of a space elevator.

[Turanov]

Quote: Clever man

I remember how the ancient Ukrainians built a wall separating them from Russia. Did they complete this project?

They are building everything .. They will build a kilometer, the previous km have already been taken to cover the chickens' farms ..))))

[Shkworen]

they will meet right on the moon :)

[Orange bigg]

Great Ukraine, as I already see, has its own lands on the moon. That's what the Maidan stood for.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: VORON538

Will they supply Ukrainian borscht and bacon to American cosmonauts?

Ukrainian borscht with Polish bacon.

[seregin-s1]

Sala is gone, only borscht remains!)

[Orange bigg]

And that one is unwound.

[Turanov]

Quote: seregin-s1

Sala is gone, only borscht remains!)

Quote: OrangeBigg

And that one is unwound.

All this is forbidden to them in the EU, there is no certificate .. They are boiled in the cellars secretly and lard is hidden there This is not a joke, these "brands" have already been bought out there and are fined for such cases .. Tse europe

[Reviews]

Quote: VORON538

Will they supply Ukrainian borscht and bacon to American cosmonauts? Do you even have your own astronauts?

Formally, there is. Leonid Kadenyuk. Rather, he was - he died a few years ago.

[eklmn]

The fact is that Russia has nothing to offer the joint project (that's why Rogozin refused), and Ukraine has nothing else to offer (but they will work with amers and do something).
Therefore, you can laugh at the decision of Ukraine as much as you like, but in your heart it is well known that Russia in the development of space is already on the sidelines, and I really don't want to look in the ass at the accelerating technical progress. And it's a shame ...

[slipped]

Quote: eklmn

The fact is that Russia has nothing to offer the joint project (that's why Rogozin refused),

Good to lie. The Americans are aware of our proposals for a lunar orbital station. If they are not satisfied with them, these are their future problems.

And we offer them our own docking and storage module based on the design of the "Prichal" nodal module, with our own transport system based on the PTK NP, which in the future can be used to create the Russian segment of the station. That's just our segment, the Americans at their super-duper station and do not want to.

Well, they do not want to do so. We are not imposing. Our cooperation with China is getting better.

[eklmn]

“The Americans are aware of our proposals for a lunar orbital station. If they are not happy with them, that is their future problem. ”
About 20 years ago, the amers did not like the speed of construction and assembly of the Zarya Russian segment module for the ISS. Amers had to pay their grandmother to Russia, and only then the Dawn was built on time. The question is - do they need this hemorrhoids now? Therefore, the amers will not have problems with the refusal of Russia, even so it is more reliable ...

[slipped]

Quote: eklmn

About 20 years ago, the amers did not like the speed of construction and assembly of the Zarya Russian segment module for the ISS.

Wrong. Zarya was assembled on time. There was a two-year delay with the construction of the Zvezda module. Considering that 25 years ago, Russia had practically no space funding at all, it was a feat.

Quote: eklmn

Amers had to pay their grandmother to Russia, and only then the Dawn was built on time.

Wrong. The Zarya module was originally built by agreement for the money of the Boeing corporation and partly for ours. Therefore, 1/3 of the internal volume of this module is used by Russian crew members - there is a change house and cargo. The rest is an American warehouse.

Quote: eklmn

The question is - do they need this hemorrhoids now? Therefore, the amers will not have problems with the refusal of Russia, even so it is more reliable ...

The answer is that the American part of the lunar station is autonomous, i.e. has its own engines, unlike the ISS. If our compartments cause them hemorrhoids, then these are their urological problems - in case of an accident they will be left alone and far from the Earth. As it was already with "Apollo 13". Then only a fluke and well-developed ballistics saved them.

The funny thing is that our docking and storage compartment is just needed in order to save them in case of something. If they don't want to, don't. We are not imposing.

And Russia and China will help each other, as they plan to have the same docking interfaces.

[Artunis]

No, it's unlikely, at best to clean the toilets.

[Alien From]

They are not freeloaders, they are partners

[sergo1914]

Friday ... We've already gone.

[Zuiss]

Early in the morning

Here is space and dreamed)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sergo1914

Friday ... We've already gone.

I understand that they do not grow beets. So do they drink "shoe polish", or sniff dichlorvos, what takes it away?

[Civil]

Ukraine intends to explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids

In turn, the former brothers ... will be next after Rogozin

[already a Muscovite]

Kapets galaxy. Space will be either Ukrainian or deserted ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: already a Muscovite

Space will be either Ukrainian or deserted ...

The latter is most likely.

[dzvero]

Kapets Luna - paint half in blakitnoye

PS And where is the letter U in the word "Artemis"?

[Growlers]

Aha, from the series we plowed me and the tractor! Ukraine secretaries will supply, to NASA

[Doccor18]

Ukraine intends to explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids,

looking through a telescope

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Doccor18

looking through a telescope

I still need to buy a telescope.

[VORON538]

The IMF will give a loan
Will give back later, who will remain

[Egor53]

Dill also need to start learning teleportation ... together with the United States.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egor53

Dill also need to start mastering teleportation.

So they have been doing this since 1991. Almost everything from Ukraine has already been teleported.

[askort154]

What is included in the program? .....
For example, we are talking about a joint study of asteroids, comets, as well as such space objects as Mars and the Moon.

These were the last, indistinct words of Ostap Us, after which he snored with relish.

[Svarog]

У

Kraina intends to explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids in cooperation with NASA

It looks like a headline in a humorous magazine .. Ukraine can only master loans ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Svarog

Ukraine can only use loans.

So already nobody gives loans.

[askort154]

tihonmarine ....So already nobody gives loans.

Patience has already run out, they said openly - the EU is not an ATM.
They asked the IMF for 1,5 billion for 2021, and he put forward 20 conditions.
Ukraine needs to make up the budget for 2021, and they have nothing to do. Now they are asking for only 515 million, and in return, you have not fulfilled 4 more conditions. Russia was on this "needle" in the 90s.

[Thrifty]

And, as soon as the Yankees fell for this bait? Now, they will need to carry this "trailer" everywhere - to the Moon, and to Mercury, and to the Sun. ..

[VORON538]

And the Yankees may not even be aware that the Ukrainians themselves will help them to explore the Moon and Mars?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

Now, they will need to carry this "trailer" everywhere - to the Moon, and to Mercury, and to the Sun.

"The Sumerians were pushing the locomotive backwards in a noisy crowd, and only then did they learn that the locomotive was without wheels!"

[Simon schempp]

Now, they will need to carry this "trailer" everywhere - to the Moon, and to Mercury, and to the Sun.

The main thing is that there is where to carry.
How is the federal eagle doing there?

[Coconut]

They master the budget well ... but Mars ... I doubt

[donavi49]

Meanwhile, 2 days before the launch of the first American mission to the ISS.

And very little time before the first launch of the first Chinese rocket with a reversible stage 1. They have already put it on the table. This is a state missile from CASC. Chinese private traders will be allowed to return next year.

[zwlad]

I hate to croak, but the day will come when "reusability" will come to an end in both commercial launches and manned flights. A couple of big bangs for a couple of three billion dollars is enough.

[donavi49]

Well, you fly on airplanes. And do not require disposability there. And the risks are similar. Metal fatigue. Degradation of parts in the hot zone. All sorts of extremely embedded parts that can break at the most inopportune moment, especially in a 10500 flight.

Moreover, because of such funny miscalculations, shortcomings, the pursuit of the extension of turnaround times, optimization and reduction of downtime, many thousands of people died. However, the entire industry strives to increase the resource (translating into a rocket - even more reusable), to reduce downtime (to accelerate inter-flight operations). And nobody is going to turn towards disposable planes.

Also in rockets. They will look for various ways to make it even cheaper, to start up again even faster and more times. Musk has six times so far. Moreover, a disposable rocket can also bang. There is always a chance and the human factor (Relativity Space fights it under the concept of their production - Glory to the Robots, no leather meat bags are needed).

[zwlad]

It is not necessary to design reusable rockets, but to make disposable ones cheaper.
It is both technologically and technically easier. And the simpler the more reliable.

[donavi49]

Why is it easier? Especially for LNG - there are generally 20-50 launches are already being laid. The most expensive thing in a rocket is the 1st stage with engines. For a small amount of output (fuel reserve for return) - you can start one stage 20 times. It is guaranteed to be cheaper than the cheapest one time 1 times.

[Blackmokona]

Those who adhered to such an ideology, directly declaring to Musk that they would go the other way. The guys from Rocket Lab, Rosskosmos and Ariana have already changed their position. And everyone rushed to make reusable ones. It looks like the depreciation of disposables has already hit the ceiling.

[zwlad]

Yes, it has not rested anywhere. For deshman cargo, which if you don't mind losing something, you may need reusability.
But for manned flights and for expensive satellites, there will never be anything better than disposable rockets. Well, only if they don't come up with an engine that controls gravity.
The States lost 2 reusable ships. That being said, the cost of the service was fantastic.
Musk is doing well until the first accident, and the fact that it will be quite likely. And all this euphoria with reusability will end immediately. The main thing is not to kill people.

[Blackmokona]

People are constantly dying on airplanes and in cars, is this a reason not to use them?
And why not make them disposable? I drove to the dump once, no problem of wear and tear.

[zwlad]

You tell this to the US government, which after 2 disasters (gradually of course) curtailed the reusable manned program.

[Blackmokona]

Therefore, it is required to transfer it into commercial hands. So that parties are afraid of losing votes not to curtail space programs because of the risk

[zwlad]

If suddenly, God forbid, a couple of dragons with astronauts zhakhut, no private hands will help save SpaceX.
I think so.

[Blackmokona]

There are a couple of Boeings with hundreds of corpses, and the office lives on.

[Thrifty]

Donavi 49, name me at least one passenger plane that goes into orbit for inter-continental flight! It is at least incorrect to compare an ordinary plane and a launch vehicle the way you did it. ..

[donavi49]

The stage also does not go into orbit if that. Correct in the sense that the physics of these processes is identical. On the whole, similar loads and factors act on the exit stage and the aircraft.

The only difference is their intensity. The stage operates under very extreme conditions and degradation is inevitable. However, now everyone is working to ensure proper reliability for 5-10 launches with a minimum stage bulkhead (wear and fatigue are more affecting the plane, because there are 3 flights a day for Watermelon / Boeing a normal load). Even Rogozin is promoting an LNG rocket with a return stage.

[tihonmarine]

This is an important step, which is a logical continuation of our entry into the MVA (Moon Village Association).

They took the first step - entered the cesspool with both feet, took the second step - let the hat go around the world, now they took an important step - entered the MVA. I wonder where they will enter when they take the fourth step?

[Pavel73]

With whom, with Biden? Forget it! He is obsessed with Russophobia and the climate, and he is already 77, he will start on the moon and space.

[zwlad]

That Ukrainian guest workers are already needed on the Moon and Mars?

[VORON538]

Europe is already occupied by others, so they occupy their place in advance!

[A. Privalov]

I don't see anything wrong with that. Collaboration with NASA is a useful thing. It should be expanded in every way. They do it right. You need to be optimistic about the future, and not look back every day. There, nothing has changed.

[Roman070280]

Re-read the whole thread .. the only sensible comment ..
Ykp will obviously not lose anything, but some kind of involvement in flights will still appear ..
Well, NASA will have flights ..

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

"Collaborating with NASA is a good thing."
It depends on whom .. For Ukrainians, any "cooperation" is useful. Especially in food warehouses.

[Avior]

Polyakov is preparing to launch the window from December 21 to the end of January. A month later.

[Nikon O'Conor]

"Ukraine is exploring new star systems, the Commonwealth is in confusion ..." - EVE-Online media

[Well done]

Now NASA will be asking for money and tyrit. Sucked there too ...

[Alexander X]

After the ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea, modern Ukrainians decided to build the moon. Second. And they will fly on it with the Americans. .. Most importantly, with the striped advance for the construction of the moon cut down.

[Van 16]

Is Ukraine a space?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Ukraine - tseLuna!)

[iouris]

... but above all the RF.

[Simon schempp]

How I love it when superintelligents come to serious topics with jokes about fat.

[off]

Well, that's it. Here NASA map and went

[ficus2003]

Nothing is clear from the article. For Ukraine, only one question is relevant - how much will the United States pay?

So far, it seems that this is another memorandum of cooperation in strengthening the intentions to increase mutual efforts to optimize the international aspirations of the two countries in the field of preserving and increasing efforts to take common measures for the good of society.

[Nadrub]

Today is not the first of April :)))

[Nemo1976]

For that today is Friday 13. Everything, khan to aliens

[Kolin]

Haberdashery and Cardinal - this is strength!

[Gennady Fomkin]

Well, mustache tryndets ..... nasa.

[NF68]

Without them, NASA could do nothing.

[Lord]

probably on the moon you also need to dig the sea

[Gene84]

Will dig out Will remember their ancient ancestors ukroshumer and dig

[Irek]

This is what the free sale of cannabis does.

[Nemo1976]

Ukraine intends to explore the Moon, Mars and asteroids together with NASA

Smiled
They already have experience in mastering. Well, let that experience in the development of IMF loans. The main thing is that you have experience.

[faterdom]

An agreement on Visa-Free and Tomos has already been signed with the Moon and Mars.
Anyone who works for two months on the lunar or Martian beds will be able to buy a used spacesuit there.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

And how much joy for the Ukrainian priestesses of love .. Well, they will unfold on the roads of the Moon)

[Gene84]

Moreover, European roads are not enough for them ...

[7 poplar]

they would have mastered their brains for a start

[Gene84]

Where did they get them from? They rode them on the Maidan. We haven't got new ones yet, judging by the chapter occupation administration to the president jester.

[garik77]

Well that's it. Khan to the American space program. They will be robbed if xoxlov is close to something

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

"if xoxlov get close to something"
They’ll make one big pigsty out of Houston, too. Salo to the market.

[Gene84]

The Americans are not quite the same, what would let their vassals into their space program ...

[garik77]

Fuck there. When they steal, the owners of the stolen property are not asked permission to do so!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In connection with the sale of land, Ukraine intends to develop the moon. It is quite logical.

[Gene84]

It is logical, but sleepwalkers will mind