Readers of Turkish media: "While columns of Russian military are visible in Karabakh, for some reason, Turkish columns are not visible"

November 12, 2020 70

After the first days of euphoria from what happened in Nagorno-Karabakh, some Turkish media and their readers took a course, so to speak, towards a more balanced position. While Turkish politicians and high-ranking military officials declare that “Azerbaijan won in Karabakh, liberating its territories from occupation,” as well as that there will be a “Turkish peacekeeping contingent” in the region, materials with a fair amount of skepticism appear in the Turkish media.

In particular, it is noted that the columns of Russian peacekeepers in Nagorno-Karabakh "can be seen for the second day in a row, but the columns of the Turkish military are not visible there."

Recall that Erdogan in his statement pointed out that a "joint Turkish-Russian headquarters" will be created, which will be engaged in "monitoring the implementation of the ceasefire, the observance of peace and the implementation of agreements on the de-occupation of Azerbaijani lands." Earlier, Ilham Aliyev also stated that the peacekeeping mission will be a Russian-Turkish one.

In this regard, several assumptions are made. One has to do with the fact that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan "may be leading the people by the nose." The document of the agreement is given, where there is not a word about the presence of Turkish "peacekeepers" in Nagorno-Karabakh. The second assumption of Turkish reporters is related to the fact that Turkish troops were in Azerbaijan before the agreement, and now they will turn into a "peacekeeping contingent".

It should be noted that the day before, Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar actually confirmed the data on the presence of Turkish military advisers in Azerbaijan.

How do Turkish media readers react to these reports?

A few comments:

While the columns of the Russian military are visible in Karabakh, the columns of the Turkish military for some reason are not visible.

I think our military is already there.

I do not believe that the Armenians will withdraw their troops in the coming days. We agreed with Russia on Idlib, and what - Assad withdrew the troops? No.

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210ox

+26

12 November 2020 06: 57

Only Russia should be in the Caucasus. Turks which side? Well, they helped Azerbaijan, and ...?
1. BDRM 667
  
  +18
  
  12 November 2020 07: 02
  
  Quote: 210ox
  Only Russia should be in the Caucasus. Turks which side?
  
  From this - Readers of Turkish media: "While columns of Russian military are visible in Karabakh, for some reason, Turkish columns are not visible" it follows that an opinion is ripening in Turkish society that Russia has cunningly led Turkey, and that the Turks, together with Azerbaijan, have brought chestnuts out of the fire for us ...
  1. Mountain shooter
    
    +14
    
    12 November 2020 07: 19
    
    Quote: BDRM 667
    it follows that in Turkish society the opinion is ripening that Russia cunningly led Turkey, and that the Turks, together with Azerbaijan, brought chestnuts out of the fire for us
    
    Wait and see. So far, from a completely hopeless position, Russia turned out to be at least not a loser ... And the peacekeepers entered the territory of Karabakh. Russian. One cannot but reckon with them.
    1. hrych
      
      +20
      
      12 November 2020 08: 00
      
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      from a completely hopeless position
      
      Yes, that's enough for you, everything was initially agreed with Aliyev. I am afraid that the plan was developed by our General Staff. for the elections in the USA, taking into account Erdogan's temperament, Pashinyan's slime-like appearance and Macron's gerantophilia. Painfully everything is smooth for a chance. I do not believe in such accidents. And the preservation of the base in Gyumri with a pogrom is a pogrom, and the seizure of Karabakh (the main part) by the Russians, and our control of the most important roads breaking the blockade, both Karabakh, Nakhichevan and Armenia as a whole.
      1. venik
        
        +4
        
        12 November 2020 08: 39
        
        Greetings, early morning, Dmitry! Something was not visible for a long time. Just this morning I thought about it, was it not "banned"? - and now: Hello! (Hm. It looks like thoughts are still material!)
        Quote: hrych
        Yes, that's enough for you, everything was initially agreed with Aliyev.
        
        =========
        Well, about the "initial agreement" well, here you have, as in my opinion a little "conspiracy bust" turns out. Too complicated "multi-move"! A lot of factors that could change the situation at any moment, and change it - IN THE ROOT! To calculate this IN ADVANCE is not just "aerobatics" - it is much MORE! Naturally, the situation was carefully monitored (and for a long time). And various options were calculated - no doubt about it! But, in my opinion, not only planning (long-term and medium-term) worked here, but also the ability to react very quickly to changes in the situation. Such a very successful "bundle" turned out!
        
        hrych
        
        +1
        
        12 November 2020 11: 20
        
        Hi
        Quote: venik
        in my opinion a little "conspiracy bust"
        
        Why then? Every stock in the world has ears growing from somewhere. Earlier, mostly ears peeped out from Foggy Albion, then from Langley. Now the ears began to look more and more often from behind the Kremlin wall. And of course the beneficiaries are obvious here. Even in Crimea, I do not believe that we acted according to the situation. Yanukovych was not specifically supported, not even rescued, he could have run away to his own people and maydauns to the Donbass. Our people took him out and ... isolated him. For Crimea is more important than all of Ukraine. They built Streams bypassing the "friendly" Yanukovych. Why? They were preparing to hand it over to the West and take the Crimea. And it was Ukraine on the neck of the EU that finally blew it up and the EU cracked. Key Britain has fled. There was a split along the lines of Germany-Poland, etc.
        
        Alex777
        
        +1
        
        12 November 2020 20: 55
        
        Even in Crimea, I do not believe that we acted according to the situation. Yanukovych was not specifically supported, not even saved
        
        Again, I agree with you on Crimea 100%.
        Yanyk would not run away - there would be no Crimea.
        And they thoroughly prepared his escape.
        And they persuaded to sign an agreement with the opposition.
        Moreover, it is well known who exactly persuaded.
        
        bayard
        
        +5
        
        12 November 2020 11: 36
        
        Quote: venik
        Well, about the "initial agreement" well, here you have, as in my opinion a little "conspiracy bust" turns out. Too complicated "multi-move"!
        
        This multi-move began earlier, as I see it, almost immediately after the Soros seized power in Armenia and the cleansing of the Armenian politicum from the "pro-Russian" politicians and military. Soros throws out such feints for a reason, and they began to wait and foresee surprises ... When this summer Armenian adventurers provoked and unleashed a conflict on the border with Azerbaijan (outside the Karabakh zone), it became clear that Pashinyan's goal was to unleash a conflict with Azerbaijan in order to involve Russia and continue to spin the flywheel. That is why the conflict was not in Karabakh, but on the immediate border, and close to the pipelines strategic for Azerbaijan.
        Russia did not fall for Pashinyan's meanness, but made conclusions, and after consultations, Aliyev was given carte blanche to resolve the Karabakh issue. Moreover, the final decision, because 30 years of negotiations did not bring any results, and the Armenians coveted the land already in the Mengichaur region ...
        Azerbaijan urgently bought a record amount of weapons and ammunition in Turkey and Israel, held joint exercises with Turkey, and immediately after their completion began a campaign.
        Which has been successfully completed by now.
        The security of the Armenians of Karabakh Russia took control and protection under its control. As well as strategic routes of communication.
        Azerbaijan has resolved ALL its territorial issues.
        Finally!
        The fate of the Soros is now being decided in Yerevan, they even try to resist and suppress the uprising against themselves ... But in Armenia they remember how, during a similar uprising, this same Pashinyan and his accomplices came to power ... And in the shortest possible time led the country to a shameful defeat ...
        Precisely to the shameful, for the army of Armenia remained the entire conflict in the barracks. And calling Karabakh "his lands" ... Pashinyan never recognized the independence of Karabakh, much less a part of Armenia proper.
        And if so, then as they say all over Azerbaijan now: Karabakh - Azerbaijan!
        And Pashinyan is to blame for everything!
        He led to this, and he RECOGNIZED it by signing tripartite agreements.
        And now he is hiding in the American embassy.
        Hey, Armenians! Are you looking for Pashinyan?
        Look for him at the American Embassy!
        And be sure to FIND!
      2. SSR
        
        +2
        
        12 November 2020 08: 47
        
        Quote: hrych
        Yes, that's enough for you, everything was initially agreed with Aliyev.
        
        From the very beginning of the conflict, I said that the Russian Federation already had an "understanding" as our media kept quiet, although the pro-covid is like a drushlag.
        Turko commentator
        but the columns of the Turkish military are not visible there. "
        
        You were noticed in the genocide there, therefore there should be no columns.
  2. hrych
    
    +6
    
    12 November 2020 07: 29
    
    Quote: BDRM 667
    Turkish media readers
    
    It is correct that these are only comments, otherwise the author writes in the article, they say, the media. Be it democracy in Turkey. There are media out there and about the great Peremog of Erdogan. And in fact, he got on with the barmaley, got on with Macron. Now the Franks are preparing liquidation Proxies and Turkish officers were pounded right at the parade in Idlib. There is nothing to collect beiraktars from. It turns out that all components are imported, from engines to electronics. Turkish - Great screwdriver assembly. "Brother" Aliyev sobbing thanked ... but did not even mention "Brother" in the Agreement And with the road to Nakhichevan, under the control of the FSB of the Russian Federation, Erdogan has a donut hole. not Nakhichevan. Nakhichevan under the control of Baku and ... the FSB
    1. Old tanker
      
      +2
      
      12 November 2020 08: 52
      
      You shouldn't think that in Turkey all the media are under Erdogan's control. There is a very strong opposition movement there and far from being Kurdish. There, quite recently, there was even a tough confrontation between the mayor of Ankara and Erdogan.
      1. bayard
        
        +2
        
        12 November 2020 12: 10
        
        Quote: Old Tankman
        There, quite recently, there was even a tough confrontation between the mayor of Ankara and Erdogan.
        
        And that's just great. Erdogan has already lost so many shores, made so many enemies of Turkey, collected so many sanctions, so "lifted" the economy that one good misfire will bring him a full Turkish paragraph. Or it will completely destroy Turkey - after all, he has already drawn maps of the "Great Turan" to Altai and Yakutia ... + the entire former Ottoman Empire. Not the size of the skullcap.
    2. 16329
      
      0
      
      12 November 2020 14: 53
      
      Please remember who Ilham Aliyev's father was, how they overthrew the power of Elchibey and the Popular Front in Azerbaijan.
      It was Elchibey who pursued the "one people" policy towards Turkey
      1. hrych
        
        +1
        
        12 November 2020 16: 29
        
        Quote: 16329
        Please remember
        
        I remember. This Elchibey is Pashinyan's twin ... identical. Soros laid eggs from strangers ...
  3. Xnumx vis
    
    +8
    
    12 November 2020 07: 39
    
    Quote: BDRM 667
    that in Turkish society the opinion is ripening that Russia cunningly led Turkey, and that the Turks, together with Azerbaijan, brought chestnuts out of the fire for us ...
    
    The Turks are confident that they have broken through to the Caspian oil! And then a bummer ... True, Ilham Aliyev in every possible way emphasizes the greatness of Turkey and all kinds of her assistance to Azerbaijan .. Dude is not simple ... Oh, Ilham is not simple.
    1. BDRM 667
      
      +7
      
      12 November 2020 07: 46
      
      Quote: 30 vis
      True, Ilham Aliyev emphasizes in every possible way the greatness of Turkey and all kinds of her assistance to Azerbaijan .. Dude is not simple ... Oh, Ilham is not simple.
      
      That is why it cannot be ruled out that, nevertheless, a "breakthrough to oil" may take place, and in the future, if everything continues this way, then how could we not see the Turkish squadron in the Caspian in the future, "to protect the exclusive economic interests of Turkey in the region "
      1. Humpty
        
        +1
        
        12 November 2020 09: 04
        
        Quote: BDRM 667
        how would we not see a Turkish squadron in the Caspian in the future, "to protect the exclusive economic interests of Turkey in the region"
        
        Under any circumstances, in this case, the Russian proverb about buoyancy will be refuted. It doesn't matter who.
      2. HaByxoDaBHocep
        
        +2
        
        12 November 2020 09: 06
        
        And the Turks will drag their squadron through Iran or Georgia?)
        
        sniperino
        
        +3
        
        12 November 2020 09: 43
        
        Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
        And the Turks will drag their squadron through Iran or Georgia?)
        It is easier for Turks to build their own shipyards in Baku or Lankaran
        
        BDRM 667
        
        +1
        
        12 November 2020 10: 32
        
        Quote: HaByxoDaBHocep
        And the Turks will drag their squadron through Iran or Georgia?)
        
        They will build on the spot. Business then, if desired.
    2. hrych
      
      +10
      
      12 November 2020 07: 49
      
      Quote: 30 vis
      Oh, Ilham is not simple.
      
      The KGB's father taught him. It was the family that seized power at the Karabakh events, or rather at the shameful defeat. Victory or shame, but Aliev ... bakshish.
    3. saigon
      
      +1
      
      12 November 2020 09: 22
      
      Well, why does the victorious Aliyev need the Turks at the moment?
      All the same, the Azerbaijani army won, of course the Turks are sure that without the help of their great and terrible mountain special forces, there would be no victory!
      This is what the light infantry of the Turks is superior to, or how can I say Az - an infantry?
      Combat experience of war with Kurdish terrorists? Or the thickness of the frontal bone from which the bullets bounce.
      And the Turks have a desire to cling to victory, as well as a desire to show that they are chiefs in military affairs.
      And why did the Primazans win the army? Why are the Az generals now freeloaders to win!
      Glory she does not share the marmalade equally.
      And then hee, they expressed gratitude for the help, beat off the curtsies, and excuse me to cling to victory.
  4. ANB
    
    +10
    
    12 November 2020 08: 12
    
    ... and that the Turks, together with Azerbaijan, brought chestnuts for us from the fire ...
    
    Azerbaijan dragged for itself. Turks for Azerbaijan. And Aliyev shared a little with Russia. :)
2. Civil
  
  +3
  
  12 November 2020 07: 25
  
  MOSCOW, November 11 - RIA Novosti. Defense Ministers of Russia and Turkey Sergei Shoigu and Hulusi Akar signed a memorandum on the establishment of a joint center to control the ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.
  
  The joint center is in Karabakh, so we will see the Turks (NATO) there. It's just not clear in what quantities.
  1. NDR-791
    
    +2
    
    12 November 2020 08: 09
    
    The joint center is in Karabakh, so we will see the Turks (NATO) there.
    The joint center NOT in Karabakh, in Azerbaijan will be located. So if we see Turkish there, then only as an analogue of the OSCE - in white jeeps and in our escort
    1. Peter rybak
      
      -3
      
      12 November 2020 09: 17
      
      Quote: NDR-791
      The joint center is in Karabakh, so we will see the Turks (NATO) there.
      The joint center NOT in Karabakh, in Azerbaijan will be located.
      
      Karabakh is Azerbaijan. If you mean that it is not in the ZONE OF RUSSIAN PEACEKEEPING FORCES, then that is precisely why SHUSHA has been released. Turkish observers will be there. And from this skyscraper, believe me, it is very convenient to observe.
      1. NDR-791
        
        +6
        
        12 November 2020 09: 32
        
        Watching is not fighting. You can and will certainly argue over whose Karabakh, but not me. It turns out that in reality Azerbaijan ALREADY has a Russian base. But it will not be Turkish it will wait and see
        
        Peter rybak
        
        -4
        
        12 November 2020 09: 44
        
        Quote: NDR-791
        It turns out that in reality Azerbaijan ALREADY has a Russian base.
        
        And this is a plus at the moment. This suggests that there will be no denunciation of the tripartite treaty. And if that's the case, Armenia overthrows Pashinyan, denounces the agreement and rushes to the borders of Azerbaijan, Russian peacekeepers will meet her. Not the Turks, not the Azerbaijani army. And ours. Isn't that what you wanted to say?
        
        NDR-791
        
        0
        
        12 November 2020 10: 36
        
        Isn't that what you wanted to say?
        As if yes. For if it explodes without our participation, then Armenia will no longer be from the word at all
        
        210ox
        
        +1
        
        12 November 2020 11: 30
        
        They will not overthrow him anywhere. '' Everyone, already dispersed, made a noise and plugged their tongues to hell. Most likely they were popularly explained.
  2. Guards turn
    
    +1
    
    12 November 2020 08: 46
    
    The memorandum on the establishment of a joint Russian-Turkish center to control the ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh, signed by Sergei Shoigu and Hulusi Akara, outlined its location and powers: “The center will collect, compile and verify information on the parties' compliance with the ceasefire and other actions, violating the agreements reached. It will also become a body for dealing with complaints or concerns related to violations of agreements. It will be located on the territory of Azerbaijan "
  3. Humpty
    
    +2
    
    12 November 2020 09: 21
    
    Quote: Civil
    that the Turks (NATO) we will see there. It's just not clear in what quantities.
    
    Who will protect them in Karabakh? Most likely, they will sit somewhere nearby in limited numbers. In connection with the scandal of Kazakhstan's indirect participation in the preparation of a number of Turkish military for the conflict, the Kazakh Foreign Ministry recommended that its citizens sit quietly on the territory of Armenia, not shine. ... And you mean the Turks, who gathered to guard the Armenians.
3. barclay
  
  +2
  
  12 November 2020 09: 11
  
  This is how the Turks will remain in Azerbaijan. They did not just help. And there is a very high probability that soon we will see a Turkish military base in Azerbaijan. And we will not do anything with this, unfortunately. Ilham Aliyev is clearly not against it. And the Turks against the background of their joint success too.
4. iouris
  
  +1
  
  12 November 2020 11: 09
  
  Quote: 210ox
  Well, they helped Azerbaijan, and ...?
  
  It is Azerbaijan that helps Turkey.
Mountain shooter

+3

12 November 2020 07: 15

Well, finally it came to pass. East is a delicate matter. You can talk-talk-talk ... But doing something completely different. Or not.
1. Livonetc
  
  +2
  
  12 November 2020 07: 24
  
  Make.
  For example a nuclear power plant in Turkey.
  1. Mountain shooter
    
    +6
    
    12 November 2020 08: 10
    
    Quote: Livonetc
    Make.
    For example a nuclear power plant in Turkey
    
    Close the project? This is a 50-year project. Maybe Erdogan won't be here in two years. Which is not surprising if you look at what is happening with Turkey in general. Lira falls, expenses for all sorts of military adventures are secret behind 7 seals. But obviously not cheap. And cheap electricity is like a drug. To put the economy on it will not jump off
    1. Livonetc
      
      +8
      
      12 November 2020 08: 26
      
      On the contrary.
      We have always known how to fight.
      "Either the chest in crosses, or the head in the bushes."
      Now is the time to learn something else.
      We must become not only the largest country in terms of area, but also correspond in terms of economic development.
      For this, it is necessary to learn how to create partnerships, including with historical opponents.
      1. Mountain shooter
        
        0
        
        12 November 2020 09: 43
        
        Quote: Livonetc
        To do this, you need to learn how to create partnerships, including with historical opponents.
        
        And what is "partnership" in your understanding? To be able to squeeze Faberge's "partner" in a locksmith's vice? With all kinds of sanctions and the adoption of "unilateral" laws? Somehow, lately, I have not seen these relations in the world ... On the contrary, everything that is possible is being violated ... The economy of gunboats! As China was once poisoned with opium, and when it tried to prevent it, it was forced by force ... Opium wars started ...
Russian2020

+5

12 November 2020 07: 19

Volodya lucidly explain to the cockroach - n .. do it there
Ros 56

+3

12 November 2020 07: 25

As long as the Russians are there, the Turks will not be there. Perhaps theoretically.
Thrifty

+8

12 November 2020 07: 32

Let the trilateral agreement be read - aloud, aloud, and with an expression, perhaps, this will help them understand the main thing - the Turks there are only OVERLOADERS, and the military peacekeepers only from RUSSIA! !!
alpamys

-9

12 November 2020 07: 37

here Aliyev speaks to Putin in pure Russian about joint patrolling with the Turks .. watch from 4:10 min.
1. seregin-s1
  
  +3
  
  12 November 2020 08: 29
  
  Turks at headquarters, Russians on earth. The euphoria has passed, the reality is on earth.
ALEX_SHTURMAN

+11

12 November 2020 07: 47

This is one more lesson to all the Kremlin-goers - finally get into the Post-Soviet space !!! Not working with diasporas, not supporting various oligarchs and their businesses here in Russia, not relying on some kind of personality like Yanukovych, etc. And systematic work with the population through the media and various organizations, as the Americans do. In all post-Soviet republics, parties friendly to Russia should be in power!
1. Petro_tut
  
  +11
  
  12 November 2020 07: 53
  
  In all post-Soviet republics, parties friendly to Russia should be in power!
  
  To begin with, the State Duma of the Russian Federation must have a party friendly to Russia
  1. Maverick1812
    
    +3
    
    12 November 2020 08: 07
    
    Here it is .... To the root!
2. Pereira
  
  +2
  
  12 November 2020 09: 22
  
  Such systematic work is possible only when Russia becomes a role model for others. While Russians are being pressured in Russia, while people are fleeing from it, it is perceived by everyone as a hunting territory. No more.
Cottager452

0

12 November 2020 08: 08

If the Armenians had dumped in an amicable way, there would have been no Turks in Karabakh.
Let them thank Russia for not being in Armenia itself.
Egoza

+3

12 November 2020 08: 12

And Turkish readers have already rolled out that Karabakh is theirs. I wonder what their media wrote before that they expected a different result?
seregin-s1

+1

12 November 2020 08: 23

And what have the Turks got to do with it? Let them rejoice as the brotherly Shiite people won a victory!)))
1. saigon
  
  +2
  
  12 November 2020 09: 25
  
  Cool brothers Shiites and Sunnis, swing!
The comment was deleted.
Horon

0

12 November 2020 08: 59

the assumption of Turkish reporters is connected with the fact that the Turkish troops were in Azerbaijan before the agreement, and now they will turn into a “peacekeeping contingent.

And there is. Apparently, someone from the Turkish media began to guess.
cniza

+4

12 November 2020 09: 01

The second assumption of Turkish reporters is related to the fact that Turkish troops were in Azerbaijan before the agreement, and now they will turn into a "peacekeeping contingent".

They want to transform, but we will see how events develop further ...
Peter rybak

-2

12 November 2020 09: 09

I fully agree that the entire war, up to its results, was negotiated between Russia and Azerbaijan. Armenia was drawn to the West and this threatened the appearance of uninvited guests in front of the Russian base in Gyumri.
Analysts from both sides (Russia - Azerbaijan) have calculated the world situation, geopolitical and even meteorological. Initially, the question was raised about Russia's military presence in the South Caucasus, de facto a new base. Compared to the return of a significant number of occupied areas, this is a small price to pay. Otherwise, Russia would be robustly harnessed to Armenia and it is not clear what this confrontation would ultimately lead to. Aliyev warned Putin from the very beginning that this scenario would not work without Turkey. We are two brotherly states, we have obligations to each other. We agreed to the participation of Turkish observers. The fact is that observers from Turkey do not need an army. She, close by, completely consists of Azerbaijani soldiers. At any time, they can be legally brought into control.
Everything was decided long ago. The only thing that Moscow did not take into account was that after the liberation of Shushi, Aliyev would move on to Khankendi. This turned the agreements into zilch, because after the liberation of Khankendi, Azerbaijan within two or three days would have destroyed all the enemy's manpower in some kind of cauldron, and the civilian population there already remained at zero point tenths of a percent. This means that there would be no need for Russian peacekeepers.
What to do? Gentlemen, launch the helicopter.
aszzz888

0

12 November 2020 09: 28

Turkish media readers: "While columns of Russian military are visible in Karabakh, for some reason Turkish columns are not visible"
To Turkish media readers - AND NEVER SEE !!!
rotmistr60

0

12 November 2020 10: 19

I think our military is already there.
What an optimist and a "patriot". The Turkish inhabitant has not yet entered the simple truth - there will be no Turkish troops in Karabakh. In Azerbaijan, stand on your ears with the permission of Aliyev, who has once again bowed in love to his "dear brother" Erdogan.
Gennady Fomkin

+1

12 November 2020 15: 14

Turkish peacekeepers ??? ...

Sure. You cannot direct someone who does not exist in principle. it's about like a vegetarian wolf ..
Aag

0

12 November 2020 15: 58
And other columns bother me ... Yesterday she rolled in front of me, jumped out of the windows at a collision, Azerbaijani and Turkish flags ... And so they arrived. They arrived at the restaurant, where, judging by the light of the headlights of cars, there were a lot of was not recruited) I, - to the house. If that is all in the town of the 29th RVSN.
How to treat this? Judging by the media, the same was observed in the capital.
1. Rubina
  
  -2
  
  12 November 2020 22: 09
  
  No way. They will rejoice and stop.
Old26

+1

12 November 2020 19: 55

Quote: BDRM 667
then how could we not see later the Turkish squadron in the Caspian,

And how will it appear there? With the use of zero transportation or dragging, through Georgia and Azerbaijan ???
Gennady Fomkin

0

12 November 2020 20: 49

CovidloNews television reported this morning that the problem is that Pashinyan's corrupt predecessors were not involved in the development of the army.

And he is a poor fellow, he tried so hard, but did not manage to save the situation ...
Radius

0

13 November 2020 04: 14

And in my opinion there is no conspiracy. Life is not a chess game, but politics is a chessboard and you can calculate moves on it. That's right: the Russian Federation has calculated everything perfectly! And it seems to me that this is not the end of the multi-move, i.e. the situation with Karabakh gradually develops into ... But let's not rush, we stock up on popcorn. We must not forget about Kashmir, Erdogan's wet dreams and our joint exercises with Pakistan.
Radius

0

13 November 2020 04: 27

And about Aliyev ... This cunning beetle will not let any Turks into Azerbaijan! So, by observers, etc.
babylon

+2

13 November 2020 12: 26

Erdogan is trying to unite the Turkic peoples, but for some reason we do not seek to unite the Slavic peoples, because it is expensive for us, but not for Erdogan
The answer is obvious; Erdogan is a patriot of his people and will not sell his military for a green piece of paper
Turkey paid for our dead soldiers and not we paid them for theirs, although I think that in such a situation they would not have accepted this handout.
1. goduninan
  
  0
  
  14 November 2020 01: 08
  
  Four dozen Turkish special forces were killed by the attacks of the Russian Aerospace Forces near Idlib. And what did the patriot Erdogan do?
  1. babylon
    
    0
    
    14 November 2020 11: 15
    
    This happened on the Syrian territory where they took active hostilities, and our turntable was landed over Armenia 200 kilometers from the border and not over Karabakh, and even more so we were out of this conflict
    Conclude "sir"
acetophenone

0

14 November 2020 01: 33

Quote: hrych
Macron's gerantophilia.

I don't understand ... "guarantophilia" or "gerontophilia"? Or is it a kind of mixture, in the sense of a neologism?
Scorpio05

0

14 November 2020 01: 34

Quote: bayard
Quote: venik
Well, about the "initial agreement" well, here you have, as in my opinion a little "conspiracy bust" turns out. Too complicated "multi-move"!

This multi-move began earlier, as I see it, almost immediately after the Soros seized power in Armenia and the cleansing of the Armenian politicum from the "pro-Russian" politicians and military. Soros throws out such feints for a reason, and they began to wait and foresee surprises ... When this summer Armenian adventurers provoked and unleashed a conflict on the border with Azerbaijan (outside the Karabakh zone), it became clear that Pashinyan's goal was to unleash a conflict with Azerbaijan in order to involve Russia and continue to spin the flywheel. That is why the conflict was not in Karabakh, but on the immediate border, and close to the pipelines strategic for Azerbaijan.
Russia did not fall for Pashinyan's meanness, but made conclusions, and after consultations, Aliyev was given carte blanche to resolve the Karabakh issue. Moreover, the final decision, because 30 years of negotiations did not bring any results, and the Armenians coveted the land already in the Mengichaur region ...
Azerbaijan urgently bought a record amount of weapons and ammunition in Turkey and Israel, held joint exercises with Turkey, and immediately after their completion began a campaign.
Which has been successfully completed by now.
The security of the Armenians of Karabakh Russia took control and protection under its control. As well as strategic routes of communication.
Azerbaijan has resolved ALL its territorial issues.
Finally!
The fate of the Soros is now being decided in Yerevan, they even try to resist and suppress the uprising against themselves ... But in Armenia they remember how, during a similar uprising, this same Pashinyan and his accomplices came to power ... And in the shortest possible time led the country to a shameful defeat ...
Precisely to the shameful, for the army of Armenia remained the entire conflict in the barracks. And calling Karabakh "his lands" ... Pashinyan never recognized the independence of Karabakh, much less a part of Armenia proper.
And if so, then as they say all over Azerbaijan now: Karabakh - Azerbaijan!
And Pashinyan is to blame for everything!
He led to this, and he RECOGNIZED it by signing tripartite agreements.
And now he is hiding in the American embassy.
Hey, Armenians! Are you looking for Pashinyan?
Look for him at the American Embassy!
And be sure to FIND!

The Armenian army remained in the barracks?)) Well, they made fun of it, it’s the pearl of S. Kurginyan walking all over the Russian Internet)) Is it okay that Pashinyan even sent the Armenian police, almost all of them, to positions near Lachin and Stepanakert? By the way, they had big losses. As a result, he even had very little strength left to defend government institutions in Yerevan.