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Protesters in Yerevan put forward an ultimatum to Nikol Pashinyan

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Protesters in Yerevan put forward an ultimatum to Nikol Pashinyan

On Freedom Square in Yerevan, protesters issued an ultimatum to Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, demanding his resignation because of the signed peace agreement with Baku.


According to the demands of the protesters, Pashinyan was given time until midnight, he must voluntarily resign. If the requirements are not met, the opposition intends to convene an extraordinary meeting of parliament.

All the deputies of "My Step" (the alliance led by Pashinyan - approx VO) have a time until 00:00. If they do not come to the National Assembly by this hour, at 00:30 we will give a press conference and present our next steps.

- said the representative of "Dashnaktsutyun" Ishkhan Saghatelyan.

Earlier, protesters gathered outside the parliament, chanting "Nikol is a traitor!" During the rally, the police detained about 130 people, who were later released.

We liberated these lands with our blood. If you cannot keep these lands, go away, we will keep them. Nichol, you are a traitor. You knelt before the Turk. You must leave your post. No one will forgive you for your step

- said Gevorg Gevorkyan, participant of the first Karabakh war

Earlier, opposition representatives announced the creation of a national salvation committee. In addition, some opposition representatives demand that the deputies come to parliament and begin the process of deratification of the trilateral agreement signed by Pashinyan. It also became known that the Prosperous Armenia Party is collecting signatures to convene an extraordinary session of the parliament to cancel Yerevan's participation in the new agreements on Karabakh.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 11 November 2020 18: 00 New
    46
    It is too late to drink the healing Armenian waters, when the whole body refused, but he refused when the Armenians chose Pashinyan.
    1. MTN
      MTN 11 November 2020 18: 04 New
      47
      Quote: parusnik
      when the Armenians chose Pashinyan.

      These protesters do not understand the main thing. They no longer have the equipment to fight against Azerbaijan. They did not understand that Putin saved them. And here is infa

      Arayik spoke right now. He says that many refused to fight and deserted.
      Yesterday we posted a recording of Samvel Babayan from the meeting where the decision to surrender was made

      Babayan reports briefly

      1) A couple of hailstones left for the whole army
      2) Almost all of the art was knocked out, only a few guns remained
      3) There is no point in fighting without normal artillery support, the guys are sent to the slaughter
      4) Even if the Russian Federation sends help in the form of a weapon, I have no one to fight, experienced personnel were knocked out, no one knows how to shoot normally, I will have to cook from 0
      1. Machito
        Machito 11 November 2020 18: 13 New
        56
        Putin really saved Armenia and helped Azerbaijan to fix the new status quo. But in reality, both Azerbaijan and Armenia will accuse Russia that they were not allowed to win.
        1. MTN
          MTN 11 November 2020 18: 19 New
          15
          Quote: Bearded
          Putin really saved Armenia and helped Azerbaijan to fix the new status quo.

          KVO status? What status? Azerbaijan returned 7 regions and part of Karabakh. Others capitulated. Azerbaijan is satisfied. Where do Azerbaijanis write that they are dissatisfied with Russia? There is no need to hang a label on Azerbaijan. You are welcome.

          Quote: Bearded
          Armenia will accuse Russia that they were not allowed to win.

          Eh, if I were Putin, I would lead the peacekeepers towards Azerbaijan. Let them eat barbecue for a couple of days and within 3 days Azerbaijan will bring the protesters to consciousness. The question is, why are you shouting, why didn't they fight as volunteers? I don't think Soros is easy now. He probably already curses his cap and ryugzak ... He’s ready to gobble them up if he’s going to return time back and doesn’t become Prime Minister.
          1. Rubina
            Rubina 11 November 2020 18: 23 New
            +3
            They already write that the peacekeepers are evicting them, they are not allowed to collect things, they are appropriating the goods. It's only the beginning. We got such a neighbor
            1. hydroy
              hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 29 New
              +6
              They are evicted in this way) from their posts, what they equipped, and what you wanted to continue the war)
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 11 November 2020 19: 27 New
                +5
                it became known that the Prosperous Armenia Party is collecting signatures for convening an extraordinary session of the parliament, to cancel Yerevan's participation in the new agreements on Karabakh

                Alas, the war was really lost by the Armenians this time!
                It's all over and no more sacrifices are needed! Don't start all over again now! Only there will be more victims of the war, and the bitterness of defeat will be even stronger!
                Alas, you must be able to play and not tighten the loop around your neck to the end!
                Years will pass - the pain of defeat will dull and life, God willing, will be reborn with new lives and new optimistic colors. Hope for the best.

                So far, the real best compromise solution that could be in this situation has been made.
                1. hydroy
                  hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 33 New
                  +2
                  Let the Armenians not be allowed to fight, let them have a rest, in Karabakh, Russian guys are on duty! An ally has no right to endanger them!
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 11 November 2020 21: 48 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Don't start all over again now!

                    Returning Karabakh has become the national idea of ​​Azerbaijan. It took a quarter of a century to prepare. And yet they prepared well and returned.
                    But the return of Karabakh will now become the national idea of ​​Armenia. Do you think they will not prepare?
                2. nobody75
                  nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 32 New
                  -10 qualifying.
                  Alas, the war was really lost by the Armenians this time!

                  In the Strategic Plan, Armenia won ...
                  Sincerely
                3. 210ox
                  210ox 11 November 2020 20: 59 New
                  +4
                  What can I say. Armenia. There was once that.
            2. MTN
              MTN 11 November 2020 18: 35 New
              +9
              Quote: Rubina
              They already write that the peacekeepers are evicting them, they are not allowed to collect things, they are appropriating the goods.

              There's a handsome man at the head of the peacekeepers wassat Rustam Muradov. Lieutenant General of the Russian Army. Derbendsky from the village of Chinar))))) Putin trolls the Armenians))))
              1. Civil
                Civil 11 November 2020 19: 00 New
                +4


                Nicolas sang his song ... as well, it's all over with Armenia in the near future.
                1. MTN
                  MTN 11 November 2020 19: 03 New
                  14
                  Quote: Civil
                  Nicolas sang his song ... as well, it's all over with Armenia in the near future.

                  Yesterday I read about the trophies of Azerbaijan and was convinced that Russia dropped from the first place to the second in terms of the export of weapons to Azerbaijan. Now Armenia takes the first place)
                2. MTN
                  MTN 11 November 2020 19: 15 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Civil
                  Nicolas sang his song ... as well, it's all over with Armenia in the near future.

                  Arayik has not calmed down yet)

                  the translation is fast, small and clumsy.

                  @ 301_AD:
                  Arayik Harutyunyan - President of Artsakh. Briefly from the last speech:

                  1. Whoever sold the land, we sold it as a nation, we betrayed our 18-20 year old soldiers.

                  2. Left the 18-year-old soldiers and volunteers alone.

                  3. Politicians who today are trying to find traitors, let them provide information about the participation of their children, their relatives. You deceived people by taking a "selfie"

                  4. The seat of the country's president is not on the front line, this is not the city of Hadrut. When 1000-1500 people fled, I had to go to Hadrut. We have betrayed the nation collectively.

                  5. The people who left Stepanakert and hid in Yerevan are traitors. I can reveal many names, but I know that we collectively betrayed our national army

                  6. Residents of Karabakh, returning to Karabakh.

                  7. Today we are solving infrastructure problems and social issues. There are enough resources to support a normal life. All roads will be protected

                  8. Reserve units arrived, some for several hours, some for several days. I will name one case ․ Colonel Grigory Sahakyan, who was supposed to lead two battalions from Armenia, refused to participate in the operation planned to defend Shushi. (!)

                  9.October 3, when the enemy captured Matagis and Talysh, on that day it was clear to me that part of the army at the front was in panic

                  10. We were forced to sign an armistice at the end because our soldiers were in danger of being surrounded, since Stepanakert had no defenders.

                  11. Several hundred people [defended Stepanakert]. Were we ready to face 6000 enemy soldiers? And after the capture of Stepanakert, our entire army, which was in Martuni, at the Red Bazaar, will be surrounded just a few kilometers away.

                  12. We evacuated Stepanakert on time, we needed to avoid thousands of civilian casualties.

                  13. Dear residents of Artsakh, I advise you to stay away from these political uprisings, not to participate in these processes on the streets of Yerevan, this is inappropriate for the people of Karabakh.

                  14. Today we promise to do everything to avoid social problems. Today we are ready to provide minimum living conditions at the first stage in Yerevan, then in Artsakh, and then fundamentally.

                  15. We do not have a final decision on what we will do, we do not have a final political map, but I want to ensure that the roads are safe, do not panic, do not move your property to Yerevan, we will return it not by force, but voluntarily
                3. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 11 November 2020 19: 41 New
                  14
                  All these protesters are all ardent Armenian emotions. And this decision and agreement, which is difficult for Armenia and Armenians, is today only true (now you can easily lose ALL Karabakh forever and a bunch of people in addition, get a COMPLETE defeat!). And the agreement that the military and the people of Karabakh themselves proposed to Pashinyan allows, having lost many territories, to avoid complete defeat and keep part of the territory of Karabakh under the control and protection of Russian peacekeepers. Thanks also to Aliyev for agreeing. But the entire previous mediocre, adventurous, two-faced Russophobic policy of the “sage” Pashinyan led to this “shameful decision”. This is, if you will, the deserved result of his "leadership". I believe his inglorious political career is over. Pashinyan and his fellow Soros must not only be removed from power, but also tried. Only he will run away, you scoundrel. In the meantime, he is hiding, coward.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 11 November 2020 20: 13 New
                    +9
                    Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                    But the entire previous mediocre, adventurous, two-faced Russophobic policy of the “sage” Pashinyan led to this “shameful decision”. This is, if you will, the deserved result of his "leadership".

                    Without justifying this politician, I would nevertheless note that the Armenians themselves do not really want to die for Karabakh, otherwise there would be battles at the level of small groups, as it was in the mountains of Chechnya. The fact that the Armenians lost these territories is quite natural - they knew that this was not their land, except for certain regions of Karabakh, and moreover, they thought that the Azerbaijanis would be afraid to recapture them. This is what they are paying for, and who would be at the head of Armenia, by and large, does not play a role - Aliyev began to prepare his army at least ten years ago.
              2. Alexga
                Alexga 11 November 2020 19: 25 New
                +6
                Gorbachev's January 1990 error has now been corrected. The troops had to be deployed then not to Azerbaijan, but in 1988 to Karabakh. And there would be no victims and destruction. By the way, the military commandant of the 120th Guards Motor Rifle Division in Kirovobad (Ganja) was your current NGSH of the AR AF.
                1. Ganja
                  Ganja 11 November 2020 21: 40 New
                  +8
                  It is difficult to disagree with you, everyone already knows that Gorbach did everything on purpose on the contrary for the sake of the collapse of the USSR, now he sits in Germany and tells tales. If the Armenians are looking for truth and justice, they must first of all punish those Armenians who, together with Gorbach, destroyed the USSR, Zori Balayan, Abel Aganbekyan, Silva Kaputikyan, Levon Ter-Petrosyan, Robert Kocharian, Eduard Grigoryan, Serge Sargsyan, Andronic Migranian of all these creatures not ranked, but 18-20 year old boys would not have died and there would have been no genocide in Khojaly, and more than 50 thousand people would not have died in this essentially senseless war, because under Soviet power there was the same (well, almost) configuration as now ... As can be seen from the height of a bird's flight, the very geography of the region determines this state of affairs and affairs. So the question is why all these troubles and misfortunes? Those who are guilty of this opened the doors of the Soviet Union to the Americans today, in one chorus, blame Pashinyan. Here we found a goat pubescence, and the criminals I named above (the list is not full of course) are now making no wine faces, they say we have nothing to do with it. The question is very rhetorical. A simple Armenian understands what kind of adventure the Nazis and the Armenian Apostolic Church (Armenian Apostolic Church) dragged them into?
                2. MTN
                  MTN 11 November 2020 22: 57 New
                  -1
                  Quote: AlexGa
                  Gorbachev's January 1990 error has now been corrected. The troops had to be deployed then not to Azerbaijan, but in 1988 to Karabakh.

                  Hey handsome !!!! But not a big amendment. Before the Sumgait events, in Armenia as a whole, but especially in Kafan, Azerbaijanis began to be driven out of their ancestral lands and homes. There were also murders. An article was written about this from Amnesty International. And those Azerbaijanis who were expelled from Armenia were settled compactly in Sumgait. Sumgait was also chosen for a reason. The most embittered Azerbaijanis were there, everyone had grief. Who lost their relatives and who absolutely everything !!! And then Eduard Grigoryan showed up. By the way, in court, the Armenians pointed to him as the instigator. And then this Edward abruptly disappeared, and after only a few decades, he lives quietly for himself near Moscow. His photographs have been published more than once. The dog did his job and ran away. Yes, it was in 1988 that everything happened. Yes, you were right it was necessary both to Karabakh and to Armenia. Separatism started from there. Not just that they were overwhelmingly in favor of the collapse of the USSR.
              3. lelik613
                lelik613 13 November 2020 06: 06 New
                0
                Do we have a worthy Turkish general in our army? Or ask Ramzan to do it?
            3. Guru
              Guru 11 November 2020 19: 31 New
              +7
              Rubina (Rubina)
              They already write that the peacekeepers are evicting them, they do not allow things to be collected, the good is appropriated.
              Well, as a reference to the studio.
          2. Machito
            Machito 11 November 2020 18: 39 New
            14
            There are enough discontented urapatriots on both sides: some want to take Yerevan, others - Baku, but they themselves do not want to fight personally. Dumb.
            1. Zuiss
              Zuiss 11 November 2020 18: 42 New
              +6
              I think in this case they will take Yerevan smile
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          4. StarTroopers
            StarTroopers 11 November 2020 20: 22 New
            -1
            Returned? LOL, now the aggression is called to return? The horses are dancing interestingly.
        2. Turanov
          Turanov 11 November 2020 18: 49 New
          +8
          Quote: Bearded
          Putin really saved Armenia and helped Azerbaijan to fix the new status quo. But in reality, both Azerbaijan and Armenia will accuse Russia that they were not allowed to win.

          The main thing was that they were taken away by the scruffs ... But in Yerevan, no matter how it was necessary to impose a curfew, after all, it was not those who fought and died defending Karabakh that raged, but again the cunning traders for whom the war is their mother and who chose the same Pashinyan ... And now the war is shouting to a victorious end, but with the help of Russia and at the expense of ..?
          Where are you adequate Armenians? Where is your Marshal Baghramyan or is Armenia not giving birth to such people?
          No, "brothers Armenians and Azerbaijanis" Russia’s patience is over!
          Rake everything if shooting starts from either side again. soldier negative
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 13 New
            -2
            I agree, let them not rock the boat, otherwise they will arrange a catastrophe for themselves and Russia has problems ...
          2. Ganja
            Ganja 11 November 2020 21: 49 New
            0
            The fact is that Baghramyan was also given birth in Azerbaijan, and Aliyev stopped because everyone knows what the Armenians are capable of, killing their civilians, then they would go around the world and shout "Azerbaijanis and Turks subjected us to a new genocide" we have already seen this school when the bandits led by Eduard Grigoryan in Sumgait, they staged a pogrom of Armenians under the strict leadership of the Gorbachev KGB and accused Azerbaijanis
          3. Rubina
            Rubina 11 November 2020 23: 55 New
            -1
            Marshal Baghramyan was born in the Azerbaijani village of Chardakhli, Shamkir region, this is not Karabakh and not 7 previously occupied regions. So it wasn't Armenia that gave birth to him
        3. denis obuckov
          denis obuckov 11 November 2020 19: 24 New
          0
          Quote: Bearded
          Putin really saved Armenia and helped Azerbaijan to fix the new status quo. But in reality, both Azerbaijan and Armenia will accuse Russia that they were not allowed to win.


          At the cost of the lives of two Russian guys.
        4. boni592807
          boni592807 11 November 2020 19: 47 New
          +4
          Bearded (Bearded), Today, 18:13, NEW - "... Putin really saved Armenia and helped Azerbaijan to fix the new status quo. But in reality, both Azerbaijan and Armenia will accuse Russia that they were not allowed to win ..."

          That's what we're talking about, and it doesn't matter. The question is that our peacekeepers are already there. And if Armenia turns on its prime minister, then our peacekeepers will be there. repeat
          And after such an interpretation in Armenia of current events: "... Earlier, opposition representatives announced the creation of a national salvation committee.Some opposition representatives demand that the deputies come to parliament and begin the process of deratification of the trilateral agreement signed by Pashinyan ..." Attitude towards Russia and its base can become sharply negative... The situation will worsen even more, because this manipulation in Armenia will be declared legal. And Russia again ... or again ... Oh, that it was so conceived or ... hi
        5. mig29mks
          mig29mks 11 November 2020 20: 31 New
          +6
          Today I spoke with an Armenian friend and says that Putin is to blame for not letting them win !!!! We would give them if they caught up with us)))))
          1. Turanov
            Turanov 11 November 2020 21: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: mig29mks
            Today I spoke with an Armenian friend and says that Putin is to blame for not letting them win !!!! We would give them if they caught up with us)))))

            Well, now the Armenians will start to fall into hysterics when the Russians blocked the offensive of Azerbaijan ..
            We will talk with them about their Pashinyans, etc.
            And also our downed helicopter .. Look for who benefits! I think it is not profitable for Azerbaijan, if only for Turkey and the Armenian authorities with a maggot.
            If they shout in Yerevan, they should immediately send them to Karabakh, there are big losses and there are not enough Armenians! Let them scream in the mountains, there is a good echo and in Baku and Istanbul it will be heard))))
            And then to arrange bold pogroms in Yerevan ..
      2. hydroy
        hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 18 New
        -5
        They have not used the army yet, they threw off all the AOs, and there is still an experienced army in the reserves) Th did you think that the Armenians would throw everything to defend their homeland? they still hold reserves.
        1. MTN
          MTN 11 November 2020 18: 37 New
          -2
          Quote: hydroy
          They have not used the army yet, they threw off all the AOs, and there is still an experienced army in the reserves) Th did you think that the Armenians would throw everything to defend their homeland? they still hold reserves.

          Can you show how many personnel they have left? How many hails? How many tanks? Is there infa or just writing? Listen, the Armenians knew that Armenia was protected by Russia and they sent the main equipment to Karabakh. Even help. In Armenia, if there was an army, they would have sent them to Karabakh long ago, they sent them anyway. What do you want to say 6000 killed and 2 times more wounded all Karabakh Armenians? Don't tell my slippers
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 41 New
            -4
            do you doubt it? Do you doubt that Armenia did not take off its su-30s, did not send its tanks? you think that Armenia sent what was in the bottom of the barrel to Karabakh, but did not leave anything in reserve) do you think they are crazy) they still have flight equipment, tanks, hailstones, cornet, BMP and much more, Karabakh has two guns
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 11 November 2020 18: 55 New
              +3
              Quote: hydroy
              do you doubt it? Do you doubt that Armenia did not take off its su-30s, did not send its tanks? you think that Armenia sent what was in the bottom of the barrel to Karabakh, but did not leave anything in reserve) do you think they are crazy) they still have flight equipment, tanks, hailstones, cornet, BMP and much more, Karabakh has two guns

              As soon as 4 Dryings rise into the air, Azerbaijan will make a sete corridor to Nakhichevan and take Styopa. The situation is a win-win for Aliyev.
              1. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 56 New
                -1
                through the frontier post of the FSB of Russia?
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 11 November 2020 19: 15 New
                  +2
                  I say - at this stage. ))
                  1. hydroy
                    hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 16 New
                    0
                    at what stage to start a major war? I'm wondering why Iran is pulling its troops to the borders anyway, it hurts that something is wrong)
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 11 November 2020 19: 23 New
                      +6
                      Iran - three challenges:
                      1) saturate the region inhabited by ethnic Azerbaijanis with their troops, because thanks to Aliyev's power, they can strongly believe in themselves.
                      2) Because of the cooperation of Azerbaijan with Israel, to show Aliyev that they will not tolerate the permanent presence of Jewish intelligence in Karabakh - this has already been said by the commander of the IRGC, as well as:
                      3) to prevent the cutting of the Azerbaijani corridor to Nakhichevan along its border for the above reasons.
              2. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 57 New
                +1
                He is already a debtor to Russia, for the downed helicopter Russia could declare Azerbaijan an aggressor through the CSTO channels!
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 11 November 2020 19: 18 New
                  +9
                  This does not correspond to the tasks of Russia in Azerbaijan, of which there are three:
                  1) Increase the military presence in the Turkish region
                  2) Throw off Pashinyan and make Armenians more dependent
                  3) Make friends with Aliyev, incl. as opposed to Turkish influence
                  1. hydroy
                    hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 20 New
                    -1
                    it does not matter, it is important that there is a Belli incident and Russia and Armenia had a logical right to strike back at Azerbaijan, here is another point that Russia agreed everything in advance!
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 11 November 2020 19: 45 New
                      12
                      Casus Belli, Shmazus Belli - the war starts only from expediency. Now Russia does not need it in FIG under any sauce.
            2. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 11 November 2020 20: 39 New
              +1
              Quote: hydroy
              do you doubt it? Do you doubt that Armenia did not take off its su-30s, did not send its tanks? you think that Armenia sent what was in the bottom of the barrel to Karabakh, but did not leave anything in reserve) do you think they are crazy) they still have flight equipment, tanks, hailstones, cornet, BMP and much more, Karabakh has two guns

              Before the conflict, the Armenian Armed Forces were inferior in terms of the number of tanks and guns of the PA of the NKR Armed Forces ....
            3. Vadim237
              Vadim237 11 November 2020 21: 47 New
              -2
              And from all this there will be no sense, because the Armenians did not have a modern integrated air defense system as well as normal calculations - and all this equipment, if they unleash the war again, will become scrap metal, and soldiers and officers with the militia will be scattered throughout the territory of Karabakh and border areas.
      3. nnm
        nnm 11 November 2020 18: 38 New
        +5
        But I didn't understand one thing, but did the Armenian army directly take part in the war? Precisely the Armenian combat units?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 11 November 2020 18: 58 New
          +9
          Quote: nnm
          But I didn't understand one thing, but did the Armenian army directly take part in the war? Precisely the Armenian combat units?

          Yes. A career soldier or conscript signs that they agree to go to Karabakh, and they leave. The question is the percentage of those who agreed and, accordingly, participation in battles as an organic part. Perhaps they are distributed among the subdivisions of the NKR JSC.
          1. nnm
            nnm 11 November 2020 21: 01 New
            +3
            But this is not at all the same as full participation
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 11 November 2020 22: 13 New
              +2
              Everything is pretty tricky there. The question is how effective
        2. Yura
          Yura 11 November 2020 19: 15 New
          10
          Quote: nnm
          But I didn't understand one thing, but did the Armenian army directly take part in the war? Precisely the Armenian combat units?

          It seems that no, legally, Karabakh is Azerbaijani, the Azerbaijani troops there seem to be on legal grounds, that is, in fact, a civil war, Armenia, having sent troops in relation to Azerbaijan, becomes an interventionist. Armenia could have the ghostly status of the legitimacy of sending its troops if it had previously recognized the independence of Karabakh and, accordingly, concluded agreements with it. So after all, Armenia did not do this, it arranged a bargain out of this, that we would recognize the independence of Karabakh only if Azerbaijan does this and does it, and in addition recognizes the independence of Karabakh, they wanted to gain something, but why Azerbaijan should recognize a part of its territory as independent, they did not think about it. To put it briefly and directly, Armenia betrayed Karabakh exactly when it declared its independence, and Armenia did not formally recognize it, announcing it officially and formalizing this document in accordance with its own and international laws.
        3. nobody75
          nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 36 New
          -1
          Personnel two corps in full complement - no. Because of this, screams about betrayal. Home sale, etc.
          Sincerely
      4. ANB
        ANB 11 November 2020 19: 12 New
        +4
        Minced meat cannot be turned back :)
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 11 November 2020 19: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: ANB
          Minced meat cannot be turned back :)

          You can make a sausage ... - the minced meat will turn into a single piece.
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 11 November 2020 21: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: cat Rusich
            make sausage ... - the minced meat will turn into a single piece.

            It will still remain minced meat, but denser in the intestine. yes laughing
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 12 November 2020 00: 11 New
              0
              Quote: Paranoid50
              Quote: cat Rusich
              make sausage ... - the minced meat will turn into a single piece.

              It will still remain minced meat, but denser in the intestine. yes laughing

              What tasks have been set? - keep the unity? ... or "revive the carcass"? - 151 Armenians live in NKR (data of 000), in Armenia 2015 (data of 2), in Russia up to 961 (inaccurate data), the rest around the world ... And that the Armenians could not get together during the entire war and do something for Victory ...
              1. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 12 November 2020 01: 04 New
                0
                Quote: cat Rusich
                And that the Armenians were unable to get together during the entire war and do something for the Victory ...

                This is simply unrealistic, given the heterogeneity of the Armenians themselves. Suffice it to recall how recently they cursed the very same Karabakh people whose clan was represented by the ousted President Serzh Sargsyan. And even if the Armenians of the whole world chipped in in one day, they would still not be able to buy a victory, and no one would sell them strategic tools to achieve it. request In short, the case when desires and possibilities diverge along a parabola. yes
                1. cat Rusich
                  cat Rusich 12 November 2020 19: 26 New
                  0
                  Quote: Paranoid50
                  Quote: cat Rusich
                  And that the Armenians were unable to get together during the entire war and do something for the Victory ...

                  And even if the Armenians of the whole world chipped in one day,
                  As an example, the Irish - first volunteered for the army of the Northern and Southern states during the American Civil War of 1861-65, and then the Irish veterans gathered (1300 fighters under the command of General O'Neill) and on July 1, 1866 invaded Canada with the aim of capturing Canada and "exchange" Canada for the FREEDOM of Ireland ...
                  The attempt failed, but the fact itself - they tried to do something, and did not hold a meeting ... The last attempt to seize Canada was in May 1870 under the command of the same O'Neill.
                  Irish in the American Civil War 1861-65
                  Irish volunteers in the American Civil War 1861-65 with their banner.
          2. Skarpzd
            Skarpzd 12 November 2020 02: 24 New
            0
            Oh well. you can't restore a cow from a sausage.
    2. SERGOL
      SERGOL 11 November 2020 18: 06 New
      +1
      You mean Borjomi, it's Georgian water
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 11 November 2020 18: 32 New
        +5
        You mean Borjomi, it's Georgian water No, about the Armenian healing waters, it is written in my comments. But there are such: Jermuk, Bjni, Aparan Bjni - medicinal-table mineral water is close in composition to Borjomi. Its medicinal properties are especially helpful in restoring normal liver function.
      2. nnm
        nnm 11 November 2020 18: 37 New
        +3
        Russian. Alfa Group has long been owned)))
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 55 New
          0
          Personally, I think that "Prankster Alf" is an umbrella brand for Borjomi. As for Alpha - Tinkoff himself ...
          Sincerely
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 11 November 2020 20: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: nnm
          Russian. Long owned "Alfa Group"

          ABH FINANCIAL LIMITED
          Legal address: Cyprus, 5 Themistokli Dervi, Elenion Bldg, 2nd Floor, Nicosia, 1066
        3. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 11 November 2020 20: 12 New
          0
          Quote: nnm
          Russian. Alfa Group has long been owned)))

          The owners of Alfa Group are not Russian for a long time.
      3. saigon
        saigon 11 November 2020 19: 29 New
        +1
        Borjomi is of course carbonated is good, but the fact that it flows from the mountain oh, how much for an amateur. The city of Barjomi itself is fabulously beautiful; the road along the Kura, the mountain and houses under the mountain against the backdrop of the sun are worth visiting there.
        Sori struck at the memories.
    3. nobody75
      nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 10 New
      +3
      Is it Pashinyan? I think the whole thing is in Pashayev ... No, not in the lawyer ... Higher ...
      In case of a successful blitzkrieg, it was the head of the Great House of Pashayevs who was supposed to lead Azerbaijan under the Turkish protectorate ... Apparently not destiny.
      Sincerely
    4. credo
      credo 11 November 2020 19: 00 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      It is too late to drink the healing Armenian waters, when the whole body refused, but he refused when the Armenians chose Pashinyan.

      By the way, where is he?
      He used to be so brave, he walked the streets with people and crucified the current government for nothing, but now he suddenly disappeared somewhere.
      He has behaved cowardly today, just like Gorbachev and Yanukovych in their time each.
      Woe to the Armenians and Armenia to have such a prime minister, and their president seems to be involved in the same test, since he slept through the agreements as if they had been agreed upon in five minutes on his knees.
      Wallpapers are worthy of resignation and legal proceedings or parliamentary proceedings, if they are prescribed in the laws.
    5. halpat
      halpat 11 November 2020 20: 27 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      It is too late to drink the healing Armenian waters, when the whole body refused, but he refused when the Armenians chose Pashinyan.

      Eh !! Nikola Pashinyan is the best of Armenians.
      laughing laughing
    6. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 11 November 2020 22: 54 New
      0
      There is no sense for them to climb now, then, if they prepare and the moment will be, and now it’s sense 0 only to rake further.
    7. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 12 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      And he refused when the Armenians chose Pashinyan.
      The first Armenian state after the centuries-old struggle for independence, proclaimed in 1918, existed for a little over two years, but left a huge mark on the history of our people. Today's Republic of Armenia is considered the legal successor of the First Republic (1918-1920).They themselves wanted independence, they themselves received it, just like Pashinyan. But for all this time, you did not recognize Russia, and solve your problems yourself, but not at the expense of Russia.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 11 November 2020 18: 01 New
    +6
    The fewer Pashinyans, the better for Armenia.
    1. MTN
      MTN 11 November 2020 18: 06 New
      +4
      Yes, it is already clear to all the adequate Armenians that they have taken everything to smithereens, in fact, grind it into one gate. In fact, there are no functional armed forces left, in theory they could have driven a little more from the remnants in Armenia, but all this would have been drained just like the previous property.

      As they say, there is no reception against scrap. It is a shame for the Armenians to surrender, but they essentially had no other choice. And "a couple of battalions" could have saved the situation only in the fantasies of the protesters, for the Armenians themselves had softened and began to drain the truth.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 11 November 2020 18: 36 New
        +3
        In one, not in one, but they ground them well.
        1. MTN
          MTN 11 November 2020 18: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Pereira
          In one, not in one, but they ground them well.

          I want to see it !!!! To bomb both NATO and Armenians


          That would be great if Turkey and Azerbaijan are in the CSTO and Armenia in NATO) From such a picture, many of the skin color changes on their faces)
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 56 New
            0
            How will I play chess then?
            1. MTN
              MTN 11 November 2020 19: 04 New
              -1
              Quote: nobody75
              How will I play chess then?

              will play backgammon. Also interesting
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 38 New
                -1
                The management will not understand me ...
          2. Pereira
            Pereira 11 November 2020 19: 39 New
            0
            I would gladly change.
      2. saigon
        saigon 11 November 2020 19: 31 New
        +1
        How they missed the plateau towards Shusha is so easy a mystery.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 11 November 2020 18: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      The fewer Pashinyans, the better for Armenia.

      The fewer Americans and all sorts of soros, the better Armenia and the whole world.
      Question to the Armenian radio:
      - What is a loan?
      Answer:
      “It's a helping hand trembling with impatience.
      And most importantly, nothing new is happening in the Caucasus ...
      Armenian radio is asked: What are the peaceful protests of the opposition?
      Answer: This is the same as peaceful pogroms of Jews.
      1. MTN
        MTN 11 November 2020 18: 41 New
        -3
        Quote: Balu
        The fewer Americans and all sorts of soros, the better Armenia and the whole world.

        but this is unlikely. Nothing will help the pro-Russian president, for this reason even Serzh Sargsyan wanted to DOWN.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 16 New
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      The fewer Pashinyans, the better for Armenia.

      I do not know about you, but the Armenian people elected Pashinyan with more than 70% of votes. So what is better for Armenia, it is the Armenian people who decide, not us.
  3. MTN
    MTN 11 November 2020 18: 02 New
    -1
    No drums are played after the wedding !!!!
  4. Asad
    Asad 11 November 2020 18: 02 New
    -2
    Immerse yourself in paddy wagons and in Karabakh with a friendly crowd!
    1. MTN
      MTN 11 November 2020 18: 08 New
      -4
      Quote: ASAD
      Immerse yourself in paddy wagons and in Karabakh with a friendly crowd!

      The next meat will be lost.
  5. SERGOL
    SERGOL 11 November 2020 18: 03 New
    +7
    No cancellation will work, dear ashot. You rode for Papikyan, now reap what is sown
  6. Borik
    Borik 11 November 2020 18: 03 New
    +4
    The contract can no longer be canceled. But Pashinyan will have to leave.
    1. MTN
      MTN 11 November 2020 18: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Borik
      The contract can no longer be canceled. But Pashinyan will have to leave.

      The question is how much the Armenians will be sincere and loyal to Russia from now on.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 14 New
        0
        And Aliev? Will it be loyal?
        1. My_log_in
          My_log_in 11 November 2020 18: 21 New
          0
          Until the army re-equips everything Turkish, it will. Or if he wants to live like a president, and not like a Turkish "six".
        2. MTN
          MTN 11 November 2020 18: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: nobody75
          And Aliev? Will it be loyal?

          I did not answer you on purpose all these days. I ask for the last time, or write without sarcasm and we will conduct a dialogue or go your own way. Write again with sarcasm or mockery, I will never answer you again. Consider.

          Aliyev, if he was not loyal, Putin would not have done what he did. Is it difficult for you to understand?
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 24 New
            +1
            Excuse me, but where did you find sarcasm in my words? I'm not a humanist, and I don't even know a word like that!
          2. hydroy
            hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 27 New
            -1
            Aliyev is already good at his organ ... Putin did what the military base in Karabakh wanted! And without the Turks)
            1. MTN
              MTN 11 November 2020 18: 42 New
              -6
              Quote: hydroy
              And without the Turks)

              You are wrong. The monitoring will be together and in the morning we have already signed a memorandum.
              1. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 44 New
                -3
                as unarmed observers, if as you wrote, expect the second round of the war! Armenians will not allow Turks)
                1. MTN
                  MTN 11 November 2020 19: 05 New
                  0
                  Quote: hydroy
                  Armenians will not allow Turks)

                  who are they to ask them something else.
                  1. hydroy
                    hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 06 New
                    -3
                    a nation that still has a combat-ready army, and yet they have not returned anything yet! And the second point, the agreement does not provide for the presence of Turkish peacekeepers, whatever you want! But only observers)
              2. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 45 New
                -3
                Only Russian peacekeepers will be deployed in Nagorno-Karabakh, said Russian Foreign Ministry official Maria Zakharova. Earlier, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said that Turkey would participate in the peacekeeping mission in the NKR.
              3. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 45 New
                -2
                Turkish peacekeepers are not foreseen in Karabakh: Moscow confirms Yerevan
                More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/11/10/tureckie-mirotvorcy-v-karabahe-ne-predusmotreny-moskva-podtverzhdaet-yerevan?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&nw=1605109519000
              4. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 46 New
                -3
                and of course, more) you have not answered for the downed helicopter yet)
                1. MTN
                  MTN 11 November 2020 19: 05 New
                  +1
                  Quote: hydroy
                  you haven't answered for the downed helicopter yet)

                  Yes, Azerbaijan must answer for this. what is true is true.
                  1. hydroy
                    hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 08 New
                    -4
                    well, then why puff here, you were one step away from war with a nuclear power) so forget about the Turks)
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 11 November 2020 18: 25 New
        +2
        And the Azerbaijanis? How loyal will they be when we still have to break the horns of Erdogan who has lost his shores?
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 36 New
          +1
          They are now with us ... in the ring ...
          Sincerely
        2. Pensive Lawyer
          Pensive Lawyer 11 November 2020 18: 37 New
          +2
          Nobody will break the horns of anyone, just as there will be no other direct clashes between the leading world powers.
          After the appearance of nuclear weapons, the world has changed a lot, to beat each other's muzzles in a cramped room, when every second grenade in his hand, no one will.
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 40 New
            +1
            It's boring to live like this ... Is it possible to play chess in a "cramped room"?
            Sincerely
            1. Pensive Lawyer
              Pensive Lawyer 11 November 2020 18: 45 New
              +2
              It’s just chess that everyone chops up))) And in passing they kick those who are without a grenade and who are not very friendly with those who have a grenade)))
              Also Respectfully smile
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 46 New
                +2
                Thank you, so I will not be left without work! I will continue to play chess with myself!
                Sincerely
                1. Pensive Lawyer
                  Pensive Lawyer 11 November 2020 19: 01 New
                  +2
                  The funny thing is that now the passions are almost simmering stronger than in the era of world wars. In the absence of the opportunity to resolve the dispute "the old fashioned way", everyone bluffs.
                  For example, the war between Azerbaijan and Armenia, which is essentially independent, thanks to the active participation of Turkey, has turned into a kind of "invitation to play a game" against the Russian Federation.
                  If we got in, it would be the first "bluff" and at the same time a move in chess on our part, because there are no grounds for interference.
                  Further, the move would be for Turkey, and so on until the moment when someone would not "give back".
                  In Syria, the first Turks moved back. Here they wanted to take "revenge", because we would play on their field, after our intervention Turkey would come as a helper and savior of poor Azerbaijan, suffering from aggression.
                  So everything is sooooo fun and interesting. Passion like in poker - and all behind stone masks)))
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 30 New
                    0
                    And let's consider some options, which my model considered ...
                    1 Armenians take Azerbaijanis into the cauldron. Azerbaijan suffers heavy losses. The Pashayevs, with the support of Turkey, remove Aliyev. Turkey takes Azerbaijan under a protectorate. Russia gets the border with Turkey. The overgrown Armenia, which will be squeezed between Turkey and ... Turkey ... In how many years will it be strangled?
                    2 Turkish generals carry out their German blitzkrieg and in 10 - 20 days capture Karabakh with small losses. The pro-Turkish party is jubilant. Aliyev is removed ... Further, as in paragraph 1
                    Sincerely
        3. MTN
          MTN 11 November 2020 18: 43 New
          -7
          Quote: paul3390
          lost his shores to Erdogan?

          Where did Erdogan lose his shores? For more details please ..........
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 47 New
            +1
            In Cyprus ... you are an expert in international law!
            1. MTN
              MTN 11 November 2020 19: 08 New
              -1
              Quote: nobody75
              In Cyprus ... you are an expert in international law!

              What about Cyprus? Yes there confused or not confused the coast, what do you want from Cyprus? Is Cyprus a vassal of Russia? CSTO? Eurasian Union? What else is there? Or for NATO Greeks decided to intercede?

              Moreover, according to international law, Russia has nothing with Cyprus. They would also say about Syria, I would scratch my head what to answer, but in Syria, not everything is smooth. Turkomans are there. And this directly concerns the Turks.

              What else?
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 20 New
                +2
                You know - chess ...
              2. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 20 New
                0
                Quote: MTN
                Moreover, according to international law, Russia has nothing with Cyprus.

                In addition to the money of Russian oligarchs in Cypriot banks.
            2. Pavlos Melas
              Pavlos Melas 12 November 2020 00: 01 New
              -1
              In Cyprus ... you are an expert in international law!
              Alas, there are no more Azerbadzans as a nation, only the Turks of Azerbaijan.
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 12 November 2020 09: 06 New
                0
                But Aliyev - Junior remained ... Now he is a national hero. And he will try to sit on our bayonets ... And during this time the Great Families of Azerbaijan will tear apart Turkish assets.
                They are good at it.
                Sincerely
                1. Pavlos Melas
                  Pavlos Melas 12 November 2020 09: 17 New
                  0
                  Turkish assets

                  Something doubtful that the assets are Turkish, Azerbaijan is my donor and Qatar for the undersultan. hi
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 12 November 2020 09: 25 New
                    0
                    Back in the 90s, the Turks in Azerbaijan built many things and opened joint ventures. There is something to plunder. It is not for nothing that the Turks want to send troops to Azerbaijan.
                    By the way, Erdogan changed the entire economic bloc and announced "shock therapy". So the scenario that we discussed with you is coming true.
                    With respect.
                    1. Pavlos Melas
                      Pavlos Melas 12 November 2020 09: 27 New
                      0
                      Well, yes, his economy is not very good, but totalitarian regimes are prone to external aggression in the face of such problems. I feel we will have to climb into the trenches. hi
                      1. nobody75
                        nobody75 12 November 2020 09: 30 New
                        0
                        Don't worry - you don't have to. I haven't even worked through such a scenario.
                        Sincerely
          2. hydroy
            hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 51 New
            -3
            Turkey and Greece are on the verge of a full-scale war in the Aegean Sea with at least the Greeks ....
            1. MTN
              MTN 11 November 2020 19: 09 New
              -3
              Quote: hydroy
              Turkey and Greece are on the verge of a full-scale war in the Aegean Sea with at least the Greeks ....

              I'm sorry for the Greeks. The Atalanta countries did not cope with Turkey, some Greece will cope?) Don't tell my slippers.
              1. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 10 New
                -1
                the one who laughs last laughs, the French were the Greeks)
              2. hydroy
                hydroy 11 November 2020 19: 11 New
                +1
                remind how the Bolsheviks saved Turkey and what they got) the Atalanta countries) aahahahah
                1. Rubina
                  Rubina 12 November 2020 00: 07 New
                  -1
                  This bike has been walking on the Internet for a long time that Lenin saved Ataturk. There is no need to make a fool of Lenin. With the advance of the Red Army in May 1920, the British oil companies and the British military corps left Baku. They left to fight Turkey. Lenin feared that if Turkey lost, the British would return to Baku. Lenin did not save Ataturk, but the only source of oil in the USSR at that time. Now imagine the Soviet industry before the discovery of Siberia without Baku oil.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 24 New
                  +2
                  Quote: hydroy
                  remind how the Bolsheviks saved Turkey and what they got) the Atalanta countries) aahahahah

                  I remember, I remember how they began to beat the Turks from Peter the Great. and they beat him until 1917. Nice to remember.
              3. Pavlos Melas
                Pavlos Melas 12 November 2020 00: 05 New
                +1
                I'm sorry for the Greeks. The Atalanta countries did not cope with Turkey, some Greece will cope?) Don't tell my slippers.

                Do not license the Greeks, please, you do not mind looking at our corpses with joy. Where would that Turkey be if not for the gold of the Bolsheviks? hi
            2. Skarpzd
              Skarpzd 12 November 2020 02: 36 New
              -2
              apparently - the Greeks are still those warriors. Perhaps I'm rummaging in the internet on the topic: what is the Greek army.
          3. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 11 November 2020 19: 04 New
            +3
            Quote: MTN
            Quote: paul3390
            lost his shores to Erdogan?

            Where did Erdogan lose his shores? For more details please ..........

            Where not? Drying was knocked down by a Russian, Jerusalem is a Turkish city for him, with Hamas kissing on the gums, etc.
          4. paul3390
            paul3390 11 November 2020 19: 11 New
            +3
            Yes, everywhere. Aggression against sovereign Syria for example. Climbing into Central Asia. And so on and so on. Is it too late - his appetites will still have to be greatly curtailed. And now - it is possible to press you to the nail, like the vassals of the Sultan ..
      3. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 11 November 2020 20: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: MTN
        Quote: Borik
        The contract can no longer be canceled. But Pashinyan will have to leave.

        The question is how much the Armenians will be sincere and loyal to Russia from now on.

        About as much as they were sincere and loyal up to this point. There will be no more, but there is nowhere less.
      4. Siberian
        Siberian 13 November 2020 09: 17 New
        0
        And not at all. Did they make any conclusions? I don't see any demonstrations for recognizing Artsakh as an independent state (even if formally, but at least something is better than nothing). the Azerbaijanis closed their shops and fled to help, the Armenians probably hoped for the West, which would help everyone (in fact, it will throw everyone, but everyone should feel it himself) and feed them tastier than Russia, well, at the extreme, Russians will arrive. Stupidity let down (have they ever heard their Pashinyan? Illiterate, narrow-minded, petty) and the search for a cake tastes better. But the Azerbaijanis and the Turks did not take Shusha, the Armenians, to give them their due, they kept it, if not for the order to leave there. It is not clear, however, who advised (did not give) these orders and how, army units came and went, volunteers - too, everything is disorganized, why they climbed it is not clear. And the Georgians in 2008 did not teach anything? One Pashinyan or wholesale Armenians? Now they can go on strike, they can appeal to the Almighty - everything is already there, as they did, and it happened.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Borik
      But Pashinyan will have to leave.

      Or removed.
  7. Moskovit
    Moskovit 11 November 2020 18: 08 New
    +3
    The feelings of the protesters are understandable, especially the veterans of the first war. But how are they practically going to cancel the agreements? Who will fight? How to fight? Or to arrange a provocation so that the Azerbaijanis hit Armenia itself, and the CSTO ran to rescue them?
    1. MTN
      MTN 11 November 2020 18: 14 New
      -8
      Quote: Moskovit
      But how are they practically going to cancel the agreements? Who will fight? How to fight? Or arrange a provocation so that the Azerbaijanis hit Armenia itself and the CSTO ran to rescue them?


      Armed detachments of Dashnaks refuse to leave Karabakh

      Volunteer detachments formed by representatives of the ARF Dashnaktsutyun party still remain in Karabakh in their positions. Member of this party Gegham Manukyan told Sputnik Armenia about this.

      He noted that despite the agreements on Karabakh, which the party considers enslaving, they remain in place, being ready to "perform any combat mission."


      Is it possible that the punishers of Armenians will have to be lifted into the air again?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 26 New
        0
        Quote: MTN
        Is it possible that the punishers of Armenians will have to be lifted into the air again?

        Guys !! Not tired of killing each other?
    2. Nasdaq
      Nasdaq 11 November 2020 18: 24 New
      +2
      Yes, this is an opposition.
      A good and fair excuse to turn the power.
      Maybe some warm chair will fall.
      No one will fight anymore, everyone understands that it's too late.

      And if at all, then yes, this power will not last long.
      The previous ones held Karabakh, negotiated, looked for compromises, and almost put the squeeze on in Kazan. And these came and in 2 years "promoted all polymers". Fast however.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 11 November 2020 18: 11 New
    +9
    Well, what ara, did Europe help you? Turkey helped Azerbaijan, and how. The next time you are going to yell at rallies, the Russian invaders are here! Think 1000 times. And once again say thank you to Russia that they did not cut the Karabakh Armenians like Hutu, Tutsi or like Tutsi, Hutu. And they began to cut, not Azerbaijanis, but those whom the Turks brought.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 21 New
      -1
      Well, ara, did Europe help you? Turkey helped Azerbaijan, and how.

      How is a wolf to a lamb?
      I think Russia helped everyone
      Sincerely
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 29 New
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      Turkey helped Azerbaijan, and how

      Now the Turks are the owners there. Everything is free ... of the Sultan.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 11 November 2020 18: 11 New
    +3
    President Aliyev did Armenia a great service, showed those real people what kind of goats they chose for themselves. He would have led them ... led them very far.
    Now there will be an opportunity to stop and think - Where were they, in fact, led ???
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 11 November 2020 18: 23 New
      +3
      - And where were they, in fact, led ???
      They went to the EU, and went to the Turks and Azerbaijanis. It happens: "He went to Odessa, and went to Kherson" (c) Sadly, everything ended in this situation. As in other things and in the first.
    2. MTN
      MTN 11 November 2020 18: 29 New
      -3
      Quote: rocket757
      Now there will be an opportunity to stop and think - Where were they, in fact, led ???

      And what to think. The Armenian army is in a deplorable state. No equipment. A lot of people died. For a nation of 2 million, this is a colossal loss. And most importantly .... How I like all the same Putin.

      The Armenians know who is the chief of the peacekeepers in Lachin from Russia? wassat Putin is clearly trolling Armenians. Krasava.
      His name is Rustam Muradov. Derbend. Lieutenant General. Oh, and the Armenians are not lucky lol He is from the village of Chinar. Armenians should see who lives in this village. Putin is handsome! good

      1. hydroy
        hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 30 New
        -3
        He is not Azerbaijani!
        1. MTN
          MTN 11 November 2020 18: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: hydroy
          He is not Azerbaijani!

          The village of Chinar (the very word Chinar is Azerbaijani, this is the name of a tree) Who lives in this village 90% are ethnic Azerbaijanis and if not, then 100% have relatives among them.
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 47 New
            -2
            So what? he commands a group of RUSSIAN troops, not Azerbaijani
          2. hydroy
            hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 49 New
            0
            Lieutenant General Rustam Muradov, Commander of the Russian peacekeeping contingent in Karabakh, is an ethnic Tabasarans (a people in Dagestan).
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 36 New
              +2
              Quote: hydroy
              Lieutenant General Rustam Muradov, Commander of the Russian peacekeeping contingent in Karabakh, is an ethnic Tabasarans (a people in Dagestan).
              Rustam Usmanovich Muradov (born March 21, 1973 [1], Chinar, Derbent region, Dagestan ASSR, RSFSR, USSR) is a Russian military leader.
              And what do you have against him ???
          3. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: MTN
            Chinar village (the very word Chinar is Azerbaijani, this is the name of a tree) Who lives in this village 90% ethnic Azerbaijanis

            Well, it happens that I am also from near Harbin, do you think I'm Chinese?
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 11 November 2020 18: 41 New
        +1
        MTN - your resources indicate that Lieutenant General Muradov also has Azerbaijani roots! By the way, I suddenly began to have news feeds from Azerbaijan, in Russian! !! belay Although I myself am Russian! !!
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 11 November 2020 19: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Thrifty
          By the way, I suddenly began to have news feeds from Azerbaijan, in Russian! !! belay Although I myself am Russian! !!
          Did you want to trick artificial intelligence? Will not work! Better confess right away! wink
          1. Thrifty
            Thrifty 11 November 2020 19: 43 New
            +1
            Sabakina hi - Glory, I am not a fiercest in Turkic languages ​​and dialects, vaaschee! ! laughing
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 42 New
              0
              Men orrysha bilmeimin
              Sincerely
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 32 New
        0
        Quote: MTN
        He is from the village of Chinar. Armenians should see who lives in this village. Putin is handsome!

        And we are all not from Moscow, so what ???
    3. cniza
      cniza 11 November 2020 18: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: rocket757

      Now there will be an opportunity to stop and think - Where were they, in fact, led ???


      To the fairy land of Soros ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 November 2020 18: 54 New
        0
        Well, yes, in the company of the same skakuas ... everything to wonderland.
        1. cniza
          cniza 11 November 2020 19: 03 New
          +2
          But what will they do now, destroy the country?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 11 November 2020 19: 34 New
            +1
            So they have been doing it so successfully for what year. Jumping is such a contagious thing. With a known result, by the way.
            1. cniza
              cniza 11 November 2020 20: 33 New
              +3
              Why don't they see what this leads to on the example of others, don't feel sorry for your forehead?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 11 November 2020 20: 43 New
                +1
                The sect, everything rests on faith, on talkative but convincing luxuries, for those who have skipped their brains.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 11 November 2020 20: 47 New
                  +3
                  I feel sorry for ordinary people, they are being led as if to the slaughter ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 11 November 2020 20: 49 New
                    +1
                    And for YOUR life, the future you have to fight, if sho. No one really succeeds in sitting in the bushes.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 11 November 2020 19: 24 New
        0
        Victor, prYuvet! And where can an army of lions led by a ram lead?
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty 11 November 2020 19: 46 New
          0
          Sabakina -Slava, an army of lions, led by a ram, can come to the new gate, so that standing near them for a long time and silently think about something !!! wassat wassat
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 11 November 2020 19: 50 New
            0
            Thrifty, the lion will think, the rams will do.
        2. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 11 November 2020 20: 22 New
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          Victor, prYuvet! And where can an army of lions led by a ram lead?

          Exactly to where I have already led - to the knackery.
        3. cniza
          cniza 11 November 2020 20: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: sabakina
          Victor, prYuvet! And where can an army of lions led by a ram lead?


          It's a good question, but why didn't the lions gobble up the ram ...
        4. nobody75
          nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 43 New
          -2
          Originally a jackal
          Sincerely
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 11 November 2020 19: 18 New
      0
      Victor, prYuvet! He is not a goat, he is a ram. There is a proverb;
      An army of rams led by a lion will always triumph over an army of lions led by a ram.
      https://www.inpearls.ru/
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 November 2020 19: 40 New
        0
        Hi Vyacheslav soldier
        Even without analogies, the picture "funny" appears. "Street" has lifted it up, it will take it down!
        In general, themselves, themselves, all these small, proud, find themselves on the file "adventure".
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 11 November 2020 21: 51 New
      -1
      These deer will meet a donkey wherever they go.
    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 12 November 2020 00: 30 New
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      And where were they, in fact, led ???

      And who led them.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 November 2020 09: 39 New
        0
        They themselves chose the host and pushed him to the top ... so he started.
        Who was pulling the strings ... let them guess.
        However, the simple truth that everyone has what they deserve works almost always.
  10. Airdefense
    Airdefense 11 November 2020 18: 12 New
    -2
    Armenians, if you think that Karabakh is your land, then it's time to analyze your mistakes, figure out which direction you need to move, how to modernize the army and prepare for revenge.
    Anything is possible, who would have said 20 years ago that Azerbaijan would take revenge. It's another matter whether this territory is needed to shed so much blood and then wait for a response from Azerbaijan, there seems to be no oil and gas there.
    Although most likely you have five years, then the peacekeepers will leave.
    To my regret, I did not expect such "impotence" from Russia, for the downed helicopter it was necessary to deliver a missile strike on any base in Azerbaijan. Because all exactly Azerbaijan will go under Turkish influence, and in speed it will perceive Russia as an enemy.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 17 New
      0
      Anything is possible, who would have said 20 years ago that Azerbaijan would take revenge.

      I would say, but nobody asked ... Everything was up to a distant star ...
      Sincerely
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 11 November 2020 18: 21 New
        -2
        And the Armenians can, as it often happens in boxing, after the defeat the fighter becomes stronger. If Aliyev turns out to be smarter, then on the contrary, you need to look for ways of reconciliation with the Armenians. Explain well, this is the territory of Azerbaijan, let's live peacefully, despite the fact that at first it will definitely not happen.
        Otherwise, this is a conflict for future generations, such "swings" have been many times in history, and if something happens to Erdogan and Turkey's policy changes, then the alignments will be completely different.
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 22 New
          -3
          Aliyev would have to sit still, after such a trick ...
          Sincerely
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 11 November 2020 18: 26 New
            +1
            Well, if you do not look for ways of reconciliation, but mock the Armenians, then it means doom your children to another war. Armenia now has excellent ground for the growth of "national liberation", maybe it will be weak, or maybe in 5 years everything will change dramatically.
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 31 New
              0
              I think before ... A year or two. I will drink coffee with Armenian brandy, eat eclairs, draw the correct maps of the Karabakh Franchise's Ultimate War and, as they say, "And an eternal battle. We only dream of peace." In addition, there will be no noncombotants in the sandbox by that time.
              Sincerely
              PS
              As I already wrote, when you play for two sides, you know exactly who will win.
    2. MTN
      MTN 11 November 2020 18: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Airdefense
      Armenians if you think that Karabakh is your land

      Vyacheslav, they are not fixable. The further the more fables they have.

      Quote: Airdefense
      Whether this territory is needed is another matter

      I don’t know about Karabakh and Armenia, but they always need Krasnodar Territory, Stavropol Territory, Marseille, California and Argentina. They love the homeland on the side.

      Until this moment, you wrote beautifully and well, and then your failure went with a rocket across Azerbaijan.
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 11 November 2020 18: 42 New
        -2
        I don’t know about Karabakh and Armenia, but they always need Krasnodar Territory, Stavropol Territory, Marseille, California and Argentina. They love the homeland on the side.

        As if Azerbaijanis don't like living in Russia.

        Until this moment, you wrote beautifully and well, and then your failure went with a rocket across Azerbaijan.

        Otherwise, Azerbaijan attacked a member of the CSTO, shot down a helicopter over the territory of Armenia, Russia simply had to inflict such damage on Azerbaijan in response so that after that there would be no thought to do this. It is a pity that this did not happen, this weakness can still lead to victims in the future.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 11 November 2020 20: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Airdefense
          Azerbaijan attacked a member of the CSTO, shot down a helicopter over the territory of Armenia, Russia simply had to inflict such damage on Azerbaijan in response so that after that there would be no thought of doing this

          During the Iran-Iraq War, an Iraqi plane mistakenly planted 2 missiles on an American frigate. The Americans were content with an apology and compensation.
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 11 November 2020 20: 57 New
            -3
            I can also, in an analogy, Iran, in response to the assassination of the general, launched a missile attack on the US base. The situation with the helicopter is completely humiliating for Russia, which only strengthens Russia's weakness in hot heads, who then, after a while, may go to liberate Yerevan from the Armenians.
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 12 November 2020 11: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Airdefense
              Iran, in response to the assassination of the general, launched a missile attack on the US base.

              In one case - a wrong blow + apologies and compensation, in the other - a pre-planned murder + triumph and bragging.
              You put completely different situations on the same board.
              1. Airdefense
                Airdefense 12 November 2020 13: 08 New
                0
                What's the wrong hit? The helicopter was deliberately hit over the territory of Armenia.
                1. Captain Pushkin
                  Captain Pushkin 12 November 2020 13: 15 New
                  0
                  If they were Azerbaijanis (Aliyev took it upon himself), they could have considered the helicopter Armenian and with great pleasure launch a rocket. If they were Turks, then Aliyev covered them in order to hush up the incident.
                  1. Airdefense
                    Airdefense 12 November 2020 13: 31 New
                    0
                    And what would change if it was an Armenian helicopter, I repeat it was shot down over the territory of Armenia, it was Azerbaijan's aggression against a member of the CSTO. But what can I say now, Russia "wiped itself out", in my opinion, in the future this may lead to casualties when Azerbaijan tries to liberate Yerevan, which, in Aliyev's opinion, is the historical land of Azerbaijanis.
  11. My_log_in
    My_log_in 11 November 2020 18: 13 New
    +3
    I’m looking at the footage from these rallies and I think, where were they when all this (war) began and went on? They voted from anywhere, from every market in the Russian Federation and from Yerevan streets, but not from the front line! They hoped that again the Russian Federation would fit in for them, as for South Ossetia and Abkhazia? So there - the citizens of the Russian Federation live mainly and they began to kill our peacekeepers, but in Armenia no one touched our base and no one offends our citizens there yet. So, whom you have chosen - live with that.
  12. Observer2014
    Observer2014 11 November 2020 18: 20 New
    +1
    Wait a little more, we'll listen to the Armenian tales of how the seven kept them. Otherwise, they would have taken Baku on the move ..
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 31 New
      -2
      So, apparently they weren't given anything, only at the end they were given normal equipment, the rest was kept in reserve
  13. maktub
    maktub 11 November 2020 18: 21 New
    -6
    The introduction of "peacekeepers" is far from the end
    No matter how the Nazis go to base 102 to arm themselves
  14. hydroy
    hydroy 11 November 2020 18: 25 New
    -4
    Armenians are not stupid! You will create a major conflict, even World War 3, cool it down, you lost by choosing Pashinyan-telephonian) Armenians do not substitute the Russian boys, who are on duty in Karabakh now!
  15. Sergei 23
    Sergei 23 11 November 2020 18: 26 New
    0
    On Freedom Square in Yerevan, the protesters put forward an ultimatum to the Prime Minister - this music will last forever if the batteries are replaced. It's time to replace.
  16. KAVBER
    KAVBER 11 November 2020 18: 30 New
    0
    If Pashinyan does not shed a lot of blood harshly, he will be demolished, if he does, he will sit still, but it will not become easier for the Armenians either from that or from this.
  17. fa2998
    fa2998 11 November 2020 18: 37 New
    -1
    Quote: parusnik
    It is too late to drink the healing Armenian waters, when the whole body refused, but he refused when the Armenians chose Pashinyan.

    I don't understand, one has been overthrown. Will the Armenians go on the attack again with the new premiere? request hi
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 11 November 2020 20: 30 New
      0
      Quote: fa2998
      I don't understand, one has been overthrown. Will the Armenians go on the attack again with the new premiere?

      As soon as they are overthrown, they will begin to divide the power again, there will be no time for attacks.
  18. sergo1914
    sergo1914 11 November 2020 18: 40 New
    +1
    Oh well. And what will happen at 00-30? Will they go to fight off Shusha? With sticks and stones?
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 11 November 2020 18: 51 New
      -1
      No, they will go to catch the deputies and put them into the meeting room!
      Sincerely
  19. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 11 November 2020 18: 48 New
    0
    = - said the representative of "Dashnaktsutyun" Ishkhan Saghatelyan. =
    Another Pashinyan among the Armenians drew?
    Well, well.
    Other people's mistakes do not teach anyone. Alas.
    In 14, the Ukrainians at the rally elected Yatsenyuk as prime minister. What's the result? Deplorable. At the rally, the Armenians elected Pashinyan as prime minister, the result was disastrous.
    Now they are holding a meeting again, everyone is looking for the guilty. And it's your own fault.
  20. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 11 November 2020 18: 49 New
    -1
    "It's too late to drink Borjomi, when the liver is gone" (c) crying
    It was necessary to prepare for war in advance ... and prepare as normal so that an ordinary cobblestone would not break the glass in a government building ... not to mention creating such minefields so that three quarters of the advancing side would stupidly lay down on them ...
  21. opuonmed
    opuonmed 11 November 2020 19: 03 New
    0
    let them come to the US embassy and find him there)
  22. askort154
    askort154 11 November 2020 19: 04 New
    0
    Protesters in Yerevan put forward an ultimatum to Nikol Pashinyan

    Here is a "hot" example of how politicians cheat people. In the 21st century, people are ruled not by tsars and revolutionaries, but by financiers. They pay for any direction they need. This is not so much the "Rockefellers", this is their next brainchild - the Fed with its printing press (common market - globalism). chaos ".
    As a result, to the truth of what happened, the people gain their sight only through the sacrifices and blood they have suffered. Thinks over, tries to return "back", incurring new bloody losses, but again falls into the same traps, only with a different name for the color.
    Armenia did not escape this either. Not only was she led to the "Soros revolution", she was also dragged into the war. And who needed it? Definitely not for the common people. I feel sorry for both Azerbaijanis and Armenians, nationality has nothing to do with it.
    I saw both refugees in 1994. Human misfortune has no nationality. Therefore, when any elections are held, there is no need to "withdraw themselves" so that "Pashanians" come to power, and then not to shed blood on new "color revolutions".
    And they are taking place in the post-Soviet space.
    The conclusion suggests itself. But that's another topic !
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 12 November 2020 05: 57 New
      0
      Quote: askort154
      And they are taking place in the post-Soviet space.


      they come to power in any country where the population becomes infantile and trusting, completely losing critical political thinking. A striking example of this is the situation in Latin American countries, which were not included in the post-Soviet space.
  23. zontov79
    zontov79 11 November 2020 19: 07 New
    -1
    Well, to protest is not to fight, they are to blame, now they understand, I hope that foreign countries will not help. You Armenians are to blame for what happened to you now!
  24. Vadim_888
    Vadim_888 11 November 2020 19: 10 New
    0
    .
    Vadim_888
    3 October 2020 21: 02
    -3
    Experts: Erdogan is going to fight on four fronts, it could end badly for him
    So I try to wanganut:
    1. Who will lose - of course Pashinyan, for Azerbaijan will cut off part of the territory of Artsakh-Karabakh.
    2. Who will win - Aliyev turning the return of part of the territory under his control into an appearance of victory.
    - Moscow, returning Armenia to the wake of pro-Russian politics after Pashinyan's resignation
    - Turkey, having strengthened its positions in Arzeibajan and began penetrating into Central Asia

    No comment?
  25. Unknown
    Unknown 11 November 2020 19: 13 New
    +3
    it is necessary to leave there, the sooner the better. collapse the base in Gyumri, and not some of our soldiers in Karabakh. Putin's memory was completely lost. It was already like that in 88-90. Our situation then there was much better than now. There were few weapons, units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR blocked all roads, large settlements, border guards kept the border locked, and for neighbors, Kirovabad 104 airborne pulled them apart to different corners. our guys died. if only the Ars and Azerbaijanis would say thank you? there are constant reproaches from both sides that the hares did not allow to cut each other. So it will be now, to climb to each other, across the line of demarcation, and shoot our guys. why do we need it? what is the base in Karabakh? how to supply it? through unfriendly Georgia and pro-Turkish Azerbaijan? a bunch of problems in the Caucasus, and not one has not been resolved, and here is another one. they did not put their own in August 2008, in Georgia, but it was necessary, then the current problems could be gradually solved, when the rear is at least somehow covered. and now ours are there in the ring of the unfriendly population on both sides. worse than in afghan. that's why blood is shed there?
    1. maktub
      maktub 11 November 2020 19: 58 New
      -3
      If Pashinyan is "dumped" everything will be so
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 12 November 2020 05: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Unknown
      it is necessary to leave there, the faster the better. collapse the base in Gyumri, and not some of our soldiers in Karabakh


      Pashinyan pereloginsya!
  26. Dave36
    Dave36 11 November 2020 19: 21 New
    -1
    If it weren't for another knife in the back, it doesn't matter who's who ... It's a pity for our officers, they didn't die for anything, the rest of the reading becomes boring. Yes, and in the backs of our soldiers will begin to shoot, because according to their words, we Russians are great scammers ...
  27. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 11 November 2020 19: 25 New
    0
    And what has this crowd been doing during the last month during the fighting? Why are these protesters not at the front? The Armenians got what they deserved.
  28. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 11 November 2020 19: 27 New
    0
    It is better for Pashinyan to take refuge in the American embassy and resign, he is already a cut-off piece, against the background of the loss in the war and the loss of Karabakh, the military, most likely pro-Russian, may come to power in Armenia, since there is nowhere more help for the Armenians, we will end up with high-quality and the quantitative strengthening of our base in Gyumri, through our peacekeepers the opportunity to influence the processes in Karabakh
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 11 November 2020 19: 28 New
    +2
    Standing over a precipice and wanting to get there so hard?
    You have to think about the country, about raising the economy, forming a new Defense Ministry, launching the production of their own weapons, and they are all looking for the extreme .............
  30. iouris
    iouris 11 November 2020 19: 34 New
    0
    The ultimatum for this nonentity is too strong. Everything is destroyed. The weapons that Armenia received for protection from Turkey have been lost. The state and the population have degraded. Martial law was not introduced. Everyone voted - everyone is guilty. After such a crushing defeat, Armenia needs a strong power, a dictatorship, then only one will be to blame.
  31. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 11 November 2020 19: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: hydroy
    Aliyev is already good at his organ ... Putin did what the military base in Karabakh wanted! And without the Turks)

    by the way, yes ... and even if they "trample" from Gyumri, that is, NKR .......... hmmmmmmm ... however
  32. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 11 November 2020 19: 47 New
    -1
    Oh how brave. Do you want war? Not the front.
  33. vmo
    vmo 11 November 2020 19: 51 New
    -2
    from the beginning we choose with screams and fights, now that Pashinyan sold the republic, completed the task set by the American masters, no, to arrest and judge, no, just go away, take your perfume and goodbye, that's all thanks to RUSSIA, but about friends Nikolai is right swallowed.
  34. Cynic
    Cynic 11 November 2020 19: 58 New
    -1
    Resignation?
    Yes, this is, now, the limit of his dreams!
    The Moor has done his job ... now it remains only to dump into warmth and comfort!
    Democracy in action, I just passed everything I could, and now we can rest on our laurels, and no matter what! DEMOCRACY!
  35. vadim vadimov
    vadim vadimov 11 November 2020 20: 02 New
    +3
    I am writing here for the first time. But I will try to express my opinion on what is happening. making his analysis not relying only on Karabakh.
    1. At the beginning of 2020 in Israel, Putin made a proposal to meet YALTA 2. Who was supposed to meet there. Putin called 5 powers. But apparently France and the UK are weeding out. But Russia and China are waiting for Trump and specifically Trump. Therefore, neither Putin nor Xi congratulated Baydan, do they know something? Others made a possible false start by running to Baydan. Therefore, YALTA 2 will rather be in a narrow circle of THREE leaders. Unless, of course, the YALTA plan can be implemented, or it will have to be postponed or revised.
    Let's say Trump wins and the meeting takes place. sometime in 2022. What they will start to decide, of course, is the restructuring of the world order. Economics. They will plunder rich but weak countries. Great Britain with its financial center will rather fall victim to it. I do not think that Russia, the United States and China are pleased with the fact that huge funds are being concentrated in London. Singapore. and in various UK offshore locations.
    Politics. separation of spheres of influence. and the reshaping of borders and the destruction of centers by the resistance of YALTA 2.
    What Russia needs and what, as I suppose, Russia is doing. (my version) Any post-Soviet republic, a priori Russophobic, otherwise they had nothing to justify their existence on the world map. and the local princelings do not want to lose power. So that's it. in the 90s, Russia left the post-Soviet republics. in the XNUMXs she tried to recreate some kind of association, but the limitrophes sabotaged them all. in the end, Russia came to an understanding. that it does not need either Ukraine, or Belarus, or Kazakhstan as a state. and proceeded to destroy them as a state, but by proxy. Ukraine is being destroyed with the help of the West. Belarus, also at the expense of the West. Armenia and Azerbaijan with the help of Turkey. Kyrgyzstan through constant revolutions. I think the next will be Moldova and Kazakhstan. including with the help of the same Turkey.
    You tell me that Russia is letting Turkey into its underbelly. But don't forget, the Turks were already in the Caucasus 20 years ago. and the presence of Turkey will be temporary and only for the destruction of the states of the limitrophes.
    In my opinion, Turkey is led, and it is not getting stronger but weakening. stretching Turkey's forces undermines Turkey's economy. this is what the world is waiting for to end Turkey.
    Look. Remember the US Middle East restructuring plan. According to that plan, Turkey loses its eastern part. At the expense of Kurdistan. Now look at the US actions in the region. US captures Syrian Kurdistan. Controlled by Iraqi Kurdistan. its embassy from Baghdad, transferring to Iraqi Kurdistan. They move their base from Inzhirlik to Crete. Why is this, is not this preparation for the recognition of Kurdistan as an independent state? According to one of the maps of the new BV Syria is a part of Turkey. but the plan was zero. in 2015, Russia intervened in the plan. and the plan most likely began to be rewritten. but in Turkey it is most likely in action.
    Erdogan fell out with everyone. his allies are Qatar. PNS and Aliev. in case of recognition of Kurdistan and the uprising of Kurds in Turkey, what will Erdogan do? To crush the troops? Is this not a reason for an external intervention in Turkey to save the Kurds?
    And so, Erdogan may be raised like a bull, and when he is taken to the slaughter, time will tell!
  36. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 November 2020 20: 03 New
    -1
    laughing Will they lynch? As Day.Az reports, the Armenian media write about it.

    "According to our sources in the Cabinet, during this period of time Pashinyan was in the building of the US Embassy in Armenia. For him, he is the safest place," the Armenian press notes.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         
  37. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 November 2020 20: 05 New
    -1
    Ilham Aliyev: "Putin asked me not to insist on this" 17:20

    “I said that Pashinyan should sign the act of surrender on the air, just as after the end of World War II, Hitler's henchmen signed the act of surrender to the military leaders of the allied countries. But, to be honest, after that, Russian President Vladimir Putin asked me not to insist on this issue, " belay laughing
  38. Radikal
    Radikal 11 November 2020 20: 06 New
    -4
    Quote: MTN
    Quote: Rubina
    They already write that the peacekeepers are evicting them, they are not allowed to collect things, they are appropriating the goods.

    There's a handsome man at the head of the peacekeepers wassat Rustam Muradov. Lieutenant General of the Russian Army. Derbendsky from the village of Chinar))))) Putin trolls the Armenians))))

    The only thing that the guarantor is good at is trolling, otherwise a layman! To answer for the killed ambassador, downed aircraft in Syria, Azerbaijan and the death of pilots - there are no "Faberge" at all!sad
    1. agoran
      agoran 11 November 2020 21: 11 New
      +4
      Do you have complete information?
      Could you tell us about the bus blown up with 29 Turkish pilots?
      1. lelik613
        lelik613 13 November 2020 06: 01 New
        0
        In the imagination?
  39. Igor Semenov
    Igor Semenov 11 November 2020 20: 12 New
    +1
    The further from the front, the more patriotic heroes
  40. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 November 2020 20: 21 New
    -1
    At a rally in Yerevan today, November 11, the representative of the Supreme Body of the Armenian opposition Dashnaktsutyun (ARF) Party Ishkhan Saghatelyan voiced three tasks, the solution of which the political opponents of the current authorities of the republic intend to achieve. the name of Nagorno-Karabakh, etc. This requires three steps.

    The first is to create a Committee for the Salvation of the Motherland, which we have already done.

    The second is to immediately demand the resignation of Nikol Pashinyan and his government.

    The third is to save our lands sold by treachery ",

    - Saghatelyan said to the assembled participants of the crowded rally. In the ranks of the protesters, "Nikol is a traitor!" The police have ceased to carry out mass detentions of citizens, although they previously issued a warning about the inadmissibility of holding mass assemblies in the context of the continuing martial law regime.
  41. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 November 2020 20: 28 New
    -1
    It's time for them to set a more realistic goal - to return Ararat! laughing By giving an ultimatum to Erdogan laughing I predicted that this would end. laughing
  42. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 November 2020 20: 31 New
    0

    At Freedom Square in Yerevan, protesters issued an ultimatum to Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, demanding his resignation due to the signed peace agreement with Baku
    Didn't they choose Pashinyan? bully Let them teach History when, as a result of the color revolutions, the state LOSES part of its territories. Behind what fought, then ran into it. bully
  43. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 November 2020 20: 33 New
    -1
    And I have in my collection "Artsakh" 5-year-old platinum mulberry. In a gift box. I think in five years it will be a rarity. laughing
  44. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 November 2020 20: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Vadim Vadimov
    I am writing here for the first time. But I will try to express my opinion on what is happening. making his analysis not relying only on Karabakh.
    1. At the beginning of 2020 in Israel, Putin made a proposal to meet YALTA 2. Who was supposed to meet there. Putin called 5 powers. But apparently France and the UK are weeding out. But Russia and China are waiting for Trump and specifically Trump. Therefore, neither Putin nor Xi congratulated Baydan, do they know something? Others made a possible false start by running to Baydan. Therefore, YALTA 2 will rather be in a narrow circle of THREE leaders. Unless, of course, the YALTA plan can be implemented, or it will have to be postponed or revised.
    Let's say Trump wins and the meeting takes place. sometime in 2022. What they will start to decide, of course, is the restructuring of the world order. Economics. They will plunder rich but weak countries. Great Britain with its financial center will rather fall victim to it. I do not think that Russia, the United States and China are pleased with the fact that huge funds are being concentrated in London. Singapore. and in various UK offshore locations.
    Politics. separation of spheres of influence. and the reshaping of borders and the destruction of centers by the resistance of YALTA 2.
    What Russia needs and what, as I suppose, Russia is doing. (my version) Any post-Soviet republic, a priori Russophobic, otherwise they had nothing to justify their existence on the world map. and the local princelings do not want to lose power. So that's it. in the 90s, Russia left the post-Soviet republics. in the XNUMXs she tried to recreate some kind of association, but the limitrophes sabotaged them all. in the end, Russia came to an understanding. that it does not need either Ukraine, or Belarus, or Kazakhstan as a state. and proceeded to destroy them as a state, but by proxy. Ukraine is being destroyed with the help of the West. Belarus, also at the expense of the West. Armenia and Azerbaijan with the help of Turkey. Kyrgyzstan through constant revolutions. I think the next will be Moldova and Kazakhstan. including with the help of the same Turkey.
    You tell me that Russia is letting Turkey into its underbelly. But don't forget, the Turks were already in the Caucasus 20 years ago. and the presence of Turkey will be temporary and only for the destruction of the states of the limitrophes.
    In my opinion, Turkey is led, and it is not getting stronger but weakening. stretching Turkey's forces undermines Turkey's economy. this is what the world is waiting for to end Turkey.
    Look. Remember the US Middle East restructuring plan. According to that plan, Turkey loses its eastern part. At the expense of Kurdistan. Now look at the US actions in the region. US captures Syrian Kurdistan. Controlled by Iraqi Kurdistan. its embassy from Baghdad, transferring to Iraqi Kurdistan. They move their base from Inzhirlik to Crete. Why is this, is not this preparation for the recognition of Kurdistan as an independent state? According to one of the maps of the new BV Syria is a part of Turkey. but the plan was zero. in 2015, Russia intervened in the plan. and the plan most likely began to be rewritten. but in Turkey it is most likely in action.
    Erdogan fell out with everyone. his allies are Qatar. PNS and Aliev. in case of recognition of Kurdistan and the uprising of Kurds in Turkey, what will Erdogan do? To crush the troops? Is this not a reason for an external intervention in Turkey to save the Kurds?
    And so, Erdogan may be raised like a bull, and when he is taken to the slaughter, time will tell!

    "And you, friends, no matter how you sit down, all musicians are not suitable ..." (c) laughing

    The problem of Armenians in the former. The Erivan Khanate, as well as the rest of the Armenians outside of it, are in the matrix of nationalism. Without reason and resources. Pashinyan's party has an overwhelming majority in the Armenian parliament. She, the party, and he, Pashinyan, can be said to be popularly elected. Unanimously by all Armenians. First, a party to parliament, then Pashinyan's parliament as prime minister.

    Then for whom to change Pashinyan? His party, which has a majority in parliament? On even bigger nationalists like the Dashnaks? In order to lose both the remnants of Karabakh and, perhaps, the territory of the Erivan Khanate, which the Armenians perceived as the core of "Great Armenia" after Russia, having won the Khanate from Persia, settled it with Armenian refugees from Turkey?

    There are no pro-Russian forces either in the brains of the Armenians, nor in politics. Against the background of self-blinding, the Armenians completely lost even the instinct of self-preservation. What gratitude there is to other peoples!
  45. nobody75
    nobody75 11 November 2020 20: 55 New
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    An extraordinary session of parliament, which was convened to consider the issue of the resignation of Pashinyan's government, did not take place due to the lack of a quorum.
    Only Vice Speaker of the Parliament Lena Nazaryan attended the meeting. Other MPs from the ruling faction did not come
    , - said opposition MP Naira Zohrabyan.
    Pashinyan's party has a majority in parliament. He hopes to sit out ...
    Sincerely
  46. agoran
    agoran 11 November 2020 20: 56 New
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    The "protesters" brought a magpie to power, and what did they expect?
    The whole world is with us / Reminds the descendants of the ancient Sumerians., Yeah.
    But they did not help.
    There is no force other than the Russian Federation that can stop the conflict.
    It was played like clockwork, the soroset was put in a corner, the Armenians were shown who is in charge in this region.
  47. Awaz
    Awaz 11 November 2020 21: 24 New
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    History repeats itself, but the Armenians never learned to learn from their mistakes.
    I remember a hundred years ago, they squandered vast territories and even lost the sacred mountain Ararat, for the same reason that they lost in Karabakh now.
  48. evgen1221
    evgen1221 11 November 2020 21: 51 New
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    Well, a lesson for (poor limentroflv) buy uavs and more missiles and you will be happy and territory. Fast and inexpensive.
  49. Country Councils
    Country Councils 11 November 2020 21: 55 New
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    While Russian citizens mature, fight for their fatherland, which was penetrated in 1991 https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_85.html - or let it recover itself https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/09 /blog-post_17.html, Putin does what he can https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/11/blog-post_11.html. Ripening is likely to come when the WHO (USA), without even resorting to the use of biological weapons (vaccines), using only medical methods https://mmanificarum.blogspot.com/2020/09/blog-post_19.html will reduce the population of the Russian Federation millions by 3-5. And if even then they do not mature, they will cut it down by the same amount or even more. But there will remain more or less capable of ripening ...
  50. Alexander Kopychev
    Alexander Kopychev 11 November 2020 22: 11 New
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    Here, the tracing paper is removed from the time of Pashinyan's ascension to the throne. Now what? Is Russia an occupier again? Or did you catch the knife hand near your throat? What do you say, "brothers" Armenians?