"The enemy is violating the ceasefire": the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry made a series of strange statements

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, on the basis of which the President of the country Ilham Aliyev had been announcing the seizure of Shushi all day and even expressed gratitude to the military command, is now spreading frankly strange statements through the media and social networks. These statements consist in the fact that "the Armenian side is violating the ceasefire regime."

From the statement:

Violating the ceasefire, the Armenian side carried out a mortar shelling of the positions of the Azerbaijani army near the Armenian-Azerbaijani border.

The strangeness of these statements is that accusations against the enemy of violating the ceasefire regime were voiced at a time when the Azerbaijani army itself is conducting active hostilities and declares the capture of the same Shushi. Against the background of accusations against the Armenian side, the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense publishes footage of shelling of Armenian positions in the Khojavend region (Martuni region).

The destruction of one tank T-72, D-30 howitzers, one mortar and a truck with ammunition for the Armenian troops. Does the Azerbaijani side itself violate the ceasefire?

Another noteworthy statement was made today by the military command of Azerbaijan:

The fighting is being conducted under the complete control of our troops.

If these are not the difficulties of translating the press secretariat, then this statement also has its quirks.

The series of strange statements continued with the fact that the Azerbaijani military department continued to assert today that Shusha is "under the full control" of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. At the same time, these statements are again not supported by any video or photo evidence.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Is there a cease-fire regime there? I didn't know! The battles are ongoing ... Apparently, the propagandists of Azerbaijan decided to bother everyone ...

[Stock]

The conversation is about the Armenian-Azerbaijani border outside the Karabakh zone. This was agreed upon in Geneva during the last meeting.

[Sofa batyr]

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, on the basis of which the President of the country Ilham Aliyev had been announcing the seizure of Shushi all day and even expressed gratitude to the military command, is now spreading frankly strange statements through the media and social networks. These statements consist in the fact that "the Armenian side is violating the ceasefire regime."

Apparently, not everything is as it was in Aliyev's tale, and someone poured hot pepper under the tail of someone.
About Shusha - silence, but they remembered about some kind of truce ...

Azerbaijanis are propagandists, "Bayraktars" are hovering here in clouds, explain to the readers what happened?
Why such confusion of feelings in your media, social networks.
And since social networks react in this way, it means that the Azerbaijani society is somewhat disoriented after the victorious report of your president.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Divan-batyr

Azerbaijanis are propagandists, "Bayraktars" are hovering here in clouds, explain to the readers what happened?

A silent "minus" is to be expected. Answer on the merits there is nothing.

[Oquzyurd]

There was an agreement that they would not shoot at each other on the state border of Armenia and Azerbaijan. The Armenians violated, and this is about it.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Oquzyurd

There was an agreement that they would not shoot at each other on the state border of Armenia and Azerbaijan. The Armenians violated, and this is about it.

Was there? And prove it with documents.
I will answer with a quote:

Quote: Divan-batyr

I can tell you in advance that there are none. There were only statements from both sides that strikes from their territories would be considered an aggression, that is, officially, as a pretext for war, it was already open between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

You didn’t say DIRECTLY about the shelling from the territory of Armenia, but somehow sluggishly and veiledly called it “a violation of the regime” ...

Were there even these shelling? And maybe the statements in your media are of some other nature?

[Oquzyurd]

Wait until lunchtime, I'll call and find out if they signed a truce at the border, or they just gave their word of honor to each other.)
Between the state borders of countries, if they have not declared war on each other, then in itself implies a truce on the border. If one of the sides decided to shoot in the other direction, then this is a violation. Is it difficult to understand this?

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Oquzyurd

If one of the sides decided to shoot in the other direction, then this is a violation. Is it difficult to understand?

It is hard to understand when the side (Azerbaijan), which previously announced such a shelling as a "red line", "Case belli", now got off with such a vague message.

[Mwg]

Are you human? Prove documented

[Peter rybak]

Azerbaijanis are propagandists, "Bayraktars" are hovering here in clouds, explain to the readers what happened?
Why such confusion of feelings in your media, social networks.

Hello! I will try to answer instead of those whom you called for an answer. The problem is with the person who wrote this article. He did not understand the essence of the very appeal of the Azerbaijani side and presented it in such a way that he drove everyone into confusion.
I will quote a message from Azerbaijan:

Violating the ceasefire, the Armenian side carried out a mortar shelling of the positions of the Azerbaijani army near the Armenian-Azerbaijani border.

That is, the shelling of the positions of the Azerbaijani army is being conducted from the direction of Armenia. In this case, we are talking about an undeclared war on the part of Armenia. Read this text without emotion.
So, there will be several more such statements. After collecting them, Azerbaijan will apply to the CSTO. If you remember the charter of this organization, if one of its representatives will conduct hostilities on the territory of another state, or if he shows aggression, confirmed by military operations, the CSTO will not interfere in these showdowns.
Azerbaijan needs a corridor to Nakhichevan.
And what the author of this article writes is not analytics. He didn’t figure it out himself.
By the way, there will be no video evidence or photo evidence of the capture of Shushi now. And there won't be tomorrow. This is Azerbaijan's new information tactic in the past two weeks. Those who need it know the true state of affairs. And stirring up sofa experts is the prerogative of the other side.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Peter Rybak

shelling of positions of the Azerbaijani army is being conducted from the direction of Armenia.

Let me doubt your presentation of the message. There are a lot of reasons for this, but one is enough.
If the shelling from the territory of Armenia actually took place, then the Azerbaijani side would have already used it as a ram at the Russia-Armenia junction along the CSTO line.

And here, some kind of bileberde about the "ceasefire".

Perhaps, for some reason, Azerbaijan requested such a regime from the Armenians in Shusha, but we do not know anything about it ...

Here let Azerbaijanis will give their version, only different from their bravura statements, but distant from the true situation.

[Peter rybak]

Quote: Divan-batyr

If the shelling from the territory of Armenia really took place, then the Azerbaijani side would have already used it as a ram in the Russia-Armenia junction along the CSTO line.

With what fright? It's too early.
There is a ceasefire regime on the state border. Those do not shoot at Azerbaijan from Armenia, these do not shoot at any air defense systems and other things on the territory of Armenia from Azerbaijan. It was agreed on this quite recently, together with the fact that peaceful cities on the territory of Armenia and Azerbaijan will not be fired upon.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Peter Rybak

With a fright?
There is a ceasefire regime on the state border. Those do not shoot at Azerbaijan from Armenia, these do not shoot at any air defense systems and anything else from Azerbaijan.

Can you explain, provide data, where such "ceasefire"has the form of a document, an agreement?

I can tell you in advance that there are none. There were only statements from both sides that strikes from their territories would be considered an aggression, that is, officially, as a pretext for war, it was already open between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

[Peter rybak]

Quote: Divan-batyr

I can tell you in advance that there are none. There were only statements from both sides that strikes from their territories would be considered an aggression, that is, officially, as a pretext for war, it was already open between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

And so, Azerbaijan once again informs about it. Will report five more times. And then he will say, we warned. You didn't listen to us.
Although I have some sympathy in favor of Azerbaijan, I try to be impartial. But I remember the course of the war in 91-94. This is exactly the kind of information tactics that the Armenian side pursued. There was no internet, but central television was left at the mercy of Silva Kaputikyan, Robert Balayan, Alikhanyan-Boner, and many others. And they fought the same information war.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Peter Rybak

Although I have some sympathy for Azerbaijan, I try to be impartial.

In terms of your involvement in the topic, I suspect that you are an Azerbaijani propagandist "undercover", another "officer's daughter" ...

Quote: Peter Rybak

Silva Kaputikyan, Robert Balayan, Alikhanyan-Boner, and many others. And they fought the same information war.

[Peter rybak]

Quote: Peter Rybak

By the degree of involvement in the topic, I suspect that you are an Azerbaijani propagandist "undercover", another "daughter of an officer"

Do I have a chance to convince you that you are lying? That is, exchange phones, talk?

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Peter Rybak

Do I have a chance to convince you that you are lying? That is, exchange phones, talk?

Why on earth would I exchange my phone number with just anyone? My phone is my world, where I admit people I believe.
And what's the point, if you are an Azerbaijani living in Russia and babbling in Russian like my neighbor Hamza, then how can you prove your impartiality?

It's all empty ...

[Peter rybak]

Quote: Divan-batyr

Quote: Peter Rybak

Do I have a chance to convince you that you are lying? That is, exchange phones, talk?

Why on earth would I exchange my phone number with just anyone? My phone is my world, where I admit people I believe.
And what's the point, if you are an Azerbaijani living in Russia and babbling in Russian like my neighbor Hamza, then how can you prove your impartiality?

It's all empty ...

I did not expect any other answer. It is a pity that you have such a narrow world. Do you consider the word "lisp" addressed to your neighbor and me as a polite appeal of a well-mannered person?
You, Armenian propagandists, have already lost all conscience.
Hiding under the guise of Aleksandrov, Borisov, Sergeev, you are still trying to put pressure on the opinions of others. Is our television, press not enough for you?

[Oquzyurd]

We say that it is not difficult to win the Armenians, it is difficult for them to prove it) In everything they are so. Do not waste time, it is useless.

[Mwg]

You don't have a chance, he is a paid troll

[Mwg]

"In terms of the degree of involvement in the topic, I suspect that you are an Azerbaijani propagandist" - so by analogy you are "the daughter of an Armenian officer"?

[Peter rybak]

Quote: Divan-batyr

Quote: Peter Rybak

With a fright?
There is a ceasefire regime on the state border. Those do not shoot at Azerbaijan from Armenia, these do not shoot at any air defense systems and anything else from Azerbaijan.

Can you explain, provide data, where such "ceasefire"has the form of a document, an agreement?

I can tell you in advance that there are none. There were only statements from both sides that strikes from their territories would be considered an aggression, that is, officially, as a pretext for war, it was already open between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

Here is the full text of the message from the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

"Starting from the night of November 7 to 05:00 am on November 8, the positions of our military units located in the Tovuz, Gadabay and Dashkesan regions of Azerbaijan were periodically fired upon by the enemy from the Berd, Chambarak and Vardenis regions of Armenia."

[Grits]

Quote: Divan-batyr

There were only statements by both sides that strikes from their territories would be viewed as aggression, that is, officially, as a pretext for war, it was already open between Azerbaijan and Armenia.

Such an agreement a priori puts Armenia in a deliberately disadvantageous position. Well, for example - Azerbaijan can conduct air raids from its territory on Karabakh or on 7 regions of the "security belt". In theory, he does not hit the territory of Armenia. But such attacks from the territory of Armenia are no longer possible - an act of aggression.

[Oquzyurd]

UAV 8 nov. 2020 .............

[Oquzyurd]

UAV ............... 09.11

[Mwg]

"Well, for example - Azerbaijan can conduct air strikes from its territory on Karabakh or on 7 regions of the" security belt "- have you ever heard about the Russia-Armenia-Azerbaijan trilateral agreement? Russia introduced peacekeepers there, if anything. so you can assume the invasion of the Martians. ”Why not?

[Peter rybak]

Here let Azerbaijanis will give their version, only different from their bravura statements, but distant from the true situation.

Is it very important for you? Maybe no one wants to answer you exactly, but out of inexperience I undertook to do it. I reread your comment. And it seemed to me that he was biased. You demand an answer without having any moral right to do so.
This is world politics, this is war, it has its own games, its own freaks. The war is waged not only with small arms, but also with information weapons. And you know that very well.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Peter Rybak

You are asking for an answer without having any right to do so.

Firstly, I do not demand, but I ask, and secondly, why are you restricting me in the right to ask a question to whoever I want, and ask it the way I want it?

[Peter rybak]

Quote: Divan-batyr

Azerbaijanis are propagandists, "Bayraktars" are hovering here in clouds, explain to the readers what happened?

Here is this impolite phrase. And a scornful phrase addressed to the President of Azerbaijan. That is why those same "bayraktars" are not obliged to answer you.
By the way, I absolutely do not care about the cons.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Divan-batyr

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, on the basis of which the President of the country Ilham Aliyev had been announcing the seizure of Shushi all day and even expressed gratitude to the military command, is now spreading frankly strange statements through the media and social networks. These statements consist in the fact that "the Armenian side is violating the ceasefire regime."

Apparently, not everything is as it was in Aliyev's tale, and someone poured hot pepper under the tail of someone.
About Shusha - silence, but they remembered about some kind of truce ...

Azerbaijanis are propagandists, "Bayraktars" are hovering here in clouds, explain to the readers what happened?
Why such confusion of feelings in your media, social networks.
And since social networks react in this way, it means that the Azerbaijani society is somewhat disoriented after the victorious report of your president.

Shusha was taken. But it turned out to be wrong. Are being sorted out now.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: sergo1914

Shusha was taken. But it turned out to be wrong. Are being sorted out now.

Turkish cards?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Divan-batyr

Quote: sergo1914

Shusha was taken. But it turned out to be wrong. Are being sorted out now.

Turkish cards?

With Ali.

[Livonetc]

"The enemy violates the ceasefire": the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry made a series of strange statements "
Similar messages by type:
"Help, hooligans deprive of sight!"
occur when heavy loss failures occur.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Stock

The conversation is about the Armenian-Azerbaijani border outside the Karabakh zone. This was agreed upon in Geneva during the last meeting.

The press release of the Geneva meeting is posted on the OSCE website. There is no talk of any "outside the Karabakh zone".

[sergey32]

We were in a hurry, apparently. The fighting is probably still going on in the city. The Armenians need some kind of success to hold on to Nagorno-Karabakh proper. The adjacent areas will be taken by Azerbaijan anyway, it is in its own right. But for both sides it will be better if they come to a compromise, otherwise the war will take decades.

[Revolver]

Quote: sergey32

But for both sides it will be better if they come to a compromise, otherwise the war will take decades.

Can you imagine a compromise that would somehow suit both sides? Me not.

[sergey32]

A compromise is possible. For example, the Armenians are left with Nagorno-Karabakh proper and the corridor to it. Azerbaijanis receive their areas of field Karabakh and a corridor to Nakhichevan for the railway and road with a status similar to the road in the west. Berlin from Germany. The Turks lift the blockade from Armenia.
Ps this war should make Armenians more negotiable, because with such ambition it is easy to lose statehood, having lost the support of Russia. History has already taught them lessons.

[Revolver]

In the 1990s, this option might have suited Azerbaijan, but not Armenia. Today, perhaps, Armenia would agree, but does Azerbaijan need it? Judging by how the war is developing, they have every chance to get ALL Karabakh.

[sergey32]

I agree that you can get all of Karabakh, but with it there are a lot of problems. An enemy for centuries, who will prepare for revenge. The Armenian population, which will be completely hostile and which the West will not allow to be expelled from Karabakh, like the Serbs from Serbian Krajina. Nakhichevan's vulnerability and dependence on Iran will only increase. It will not be easy to maintain military spending at the required level in the context of low hydrocarbon prices. Wise leadership must also anticipate the long-term consequences of their actions.

[Grits]

Quote: sergey32

A compromise is possible. For example, the Armenians are left with Nagorno-Karabakh proper and the corridor to it. Azerbaijanis receive their areas of field Karabakh and a corridor to Nakhichevan for the railway and road with a status similar to the road in the west. Berlin from Germany. The Turks lift the blockade from Armenia.

For me, this is quite acceptable.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

... But for both sides it will be better if they come to a compromise, otherwise the war will take decades.

Dear, there is a contradiction in your thesis - it is just another compromise that guarantees "the war for decades to come." If a compromise was required, then these rams would have been dragged to the table at the interpreter a month ago. On which, apparently, the Ober-Armenians very much hoped.

[Tank hard]

After the media appoints presidents in the United States, this is just a trifle.

[times]

In fact, the media are already fighting

[Tank hard]

Quote: mal

In fact, the media are already fighting

In fact, these media have completely undermined self-confidence. Here's how to reproach election campaigns now, accusing them of fraud, when the most important hegemon of the democratic world is brazenly engaged in fraud? Where is Lukashenka before Biden, all the more what to get from the Azerbaijani media?

[times]

Quote: Tank Hard

all the more what to take from the Azerbaijani media?

There is room to grow

[Tank hard]

Quote: mal

There is room to grow

Yeah, there is where ..:

[sergo1914]

I am now waiting for parallel reports on the capture of Baku and Yerevan.

[NDR-791]

It's time to go and listen to "Armenian radio".

[forest1]

And imagine what will happen when they also start to fight.

[midivan]

I am glad to welcome the Martians to planet Earth, this is a new round of friendly relations To get acquainted with what is happening on our planet, watch the video, of which there are many on the Internet channels, for this I advise you to buy an earthly smartphone of any model and insert a local SIM card into it.

[forest1]

Very useful information. I just learned the first earthly language and began to chop the chip a little. You talk awkwardly. The mouth must be constantly open

[Goffman]

Quote: forest1

I just learned the first earthly language and began to chop the chip a little. You talk awkwardly. The mouth must be constantly open

“Aren't you surprised that I tried to shake hands with the car?”
- I thought you were drunk.
- I considered cars the dominant form of life and wanted to introduce myself.
© "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

[Pavlos Melas]

Violating the ceasefire, the Armenian side carried out a mortar shelling of the positions of the Azerbaijani army near Armenian-Azerbaijani boundaries.

Apparently Aliyev is probing the soil, whether it will be possible to be unlimited by Karabakh or not. If everything with Shusha becomes clear in favor of Azeri, then only Stepanakert will remain and then either the world or the corridor to Nakhichevan.

[Svetlana]

Erdoganpasha gives them all caps. You know, congratulated on the capture of Shushi, but it hasn't, it's broken off.

[taiga2018]

One thing is clear that every day the further advancement for the Azerbaijani army is becoming more and more difficult, even the "super-superbikes" no longer help ...

[Master]

Such statements are published almost every day. And yesterday was and the day before yesterday. I don't know what kind of weirdness the author of the article saw here. Or is it for the sake of it. to publish at least something?

[Cron]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

Violating the ceasefire, the Armenian side carried out a mortar shelling of the positions of the Azerbaijani army near Armenian-Azerbaijani boundaries.

Apparently Aliyev is probing the soil, whether it will be possible to be unlimited by Karabakh or not. If everything with Shusha becomes clear in favor of Azeri, then only Stepanakert will remain and then either the world or the corridor to Nakhichevan.

Yeah, and then the Azerbaijani military will give interviews like Georgians in 2008: "Behind the tuner, behind the tunel, there was a huge army of 100, did we have any chances?" (Pronunciation preserved)

[Pavlos Melas]

Quote: Cron

Quote: Pavlos Melas

Violating the ceasefire, the Armenian side carried out a mortar shelling of the positions of the Azerbaijani army near Armenian-Azerbaijani boundaries.

Apparently Aliyev is probing the soil, whether it will be possible to be unlimited by Karabakh or not. If everything with Shusha becomes clear in favor of Azeri, then only Stepanakert will remain and then either the world or the corridor to Nakhichevan.

Yeah, and then the Azerbaijani military will give interviews like Georgians in 2008: "Behind the tuner, behind the tunel, there was a huge army of 100, did we have any chances?" (Pronunciation preserved)

Such an outcome cannot be ruled out, therefore, the soil is carefully probed. If Russia gets involved in the batch, then the Turkish asker will also complain: "The snow has hit his head, he has become completely ill."

[Livonetc]

So Turkish askers began to fly to Syria in full.
So that it was discouraging.

[Pavlos Melas]

Quote: Livonetc

So Turkish askers began to fly to Syria in full.
So that it was discouraging.

Apparently it didn't come, or they want to feel where they can go and step over the line a little.

[Livonetc]

It will come when they are completely knocked out of Syria and Libya.
In Transcaucasia they will not be allowed to gain a foothold.
And first of all, Iran will work.

[Pavlos Melas]

Quote: Livonetc

It will come when they are completely knocked out of Syria and Libya.
In Transcaucasia they will not be allowed to gain a foothold.
And first of all, Iran will work.

In any way, they should be knocked out of Syria, however, from Libya too. This is also a good scenario for Turkey. Bad if the partners decide to correct it slightly.

[Sofa batyr]

Quote: Livonetc

So Turkish askers began to fly to Syria in full.

This is not in full, and so far not for askers, but "proxies", but the Turks need to think about whether they can tease Russia, if they can, of course ...

[Konnick]

Quote: Peter Rybak

And what the author of this article writes is not analytics. He didn’t figure it out himself.

I completely agree. We are talking about shelling from the territory of Armenia. And I am surprised by the minus ones, are there really so many Dashnak accomplices ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Konnick

... And I am surprised by the minus ones, are there really so many Dashnak accomplices ...

They just got tired of the flow of false information, they just don't take it seriously anymore.

[rotmistr60]

The series of strange statements continued ...

This can only mean that they are trying to turn their attention, no matter what is important, so that they do not interfere with questions about Shushi. This means that things are not at all the same as they hastened to report to Aliyev exactly for the Azerbaijani holiday. And if now the Azerbaijanis are being slaughtered under this settlement above the roof (and knives with pistols will not help), how will they justify themselves in front of the "Partyigenosse" and "Turkish brothers"?

[Oquzyurd]

The head of the separatists of Nagorno-Karabakh, Arayik Harutyunyan, admitted that Azerbaijan had conquered Shusha.

Early this morning, he visited the fighting positions of the separatists, from which the defense of Khankendi is being carried out, where he talked with the servicemen of the separatist army.

As Aratyunyan wrote on his Facebook page, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are advancing on Khankendi from the direction of Shushi.

[APASUS]

I wonder what kind of ceasefire is mentioned in the message? There has not been a single cease-fire for more than 5 minutes. Both sides already insert this statement into the header of any speech.