Deeply modernized Tu-160M ​​made its first flight with new NK-32-02 engines

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Deeply modernized Tu-160M ​​made its first flight with new NK-32-02 engines

The deeply modernized strategic missile carrier Tu-160M ​​"White Swan" made its first flight with new NK-32-02 engines. This was reported by the press service of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC).

As reported, the plane took off from the airfield of the Kazan aircraft plant named after SP Gorbunov and spent 2 hours 20 minutes in the air. The missile carrier was piloted by the crew under the guidance of test pilot of Zhukovskaya flight test and development base Anri Naskidyants. It is specified that the new NK-32-02 engines installed on the missile carrier are serial.



At the KAZ airfield. SP Gorbunov - a branch of Tupolev PJSC, the first flight of the deeply modernized Tu-160M ​​bomber-bomber with new serial NK-32-02 engines took place. The plane was piloted by a crew led by Anri Naskidyants. The flight took place at an altitude of 6 thousand meters and lasted 2 hours and 20 minutes

- said in a statement.

As stated in the UAC, during the flight, the updated general aircraft systems and avionics were checked, and the work of the new engines was assessed. The flight took place in normal mode, the systems and equipment worked without any comments.

As previously explained in the corporation, on the deeply modernized Tu-160M, new flight and navigation equipment, an on-board communications complex, a control system, a radar station, an electronic countermeasures complex, as well as new NK-32-02 engines (series 2) were installed, the serial production of which restored in Samara (UEC-Kuznetsov JSC).

In total, 160 Tu-15 combat aircraft rocket carriers of the Russian Federation Air Force should be upgraded to Tu-160M ​​level and ten new strategists of Tu-2027M ​​were built before 160 with the start of deliveries in 2023.
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  1. +30
    3 November 2020 17: 54
    Well, fine
    1. +16
      3 November 2020 18: 14
      But until recently, many did not believe. But the road will be mastered by the one walking. good drinks Good news for tomorrow's holiday.
      At the KAZ airfield. S.P. Gorbunov - a branch of Tupolev PJSC (part of PJSC UAC of Rostec State Corporation), the first flight of the deeply modernized Tu-160M ​​bomber-bomber with new serial NK-32-02 engines took place. The plane was piloted by a crew led by Anri Naskidyants. The flight took place at an altitude of 6000 meters and lasted 2 hours and 20 minutes.

      During the flight, the necessary checks were performed on the updated general aircraft systems and on-board electronic equipment installed as part of a deep modernization of the aircraft, as well as the performance of the new NK-32 series 02 engine, developed and manufactured by the United Engine Corporation (part of the State Corporation Rostec). According to the crew's data, the flight proceeded normally, the systems and equipment worked without any comments.

      http://in24.org/technology/39614
      1. +3
        3 November 2020 19: 58
        Great news!
        So, step by step - and higher and higher !!
        It remains to wait for the installation of this engine on the Tu22.
        1. -22
          3 November 2020 20: 44
          Quote: hydrox
          Great news!
          So, step by step - and higher and higher !!
          It remains to wait for the installation of this engine on the Tu22.

          That's what keeps me amazed, Duc is that the achievements of the engineering thought of the USSR are presented as Putin's peremogue, and after all, Putinism has not created absolutely ANYTHING, except for a myriad of baryzhnikhreneliarders from among friends of a friend.
          But the PvV citizen said that only galoshes could be made in the USSR.
          1. +3
            3 November 2020 21: 56
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: hydrox
            Great news!
            So, step by step - and higher and higher !!
            It remains to wait for the installation of this engine on the Tu22.

            That's what keeps me amazed, Duc is that the achievements of the engineering thought of the USSR are presented as Putin's peremogue, and after all, Putinism has not created absolutely ANYTHING, except for a myriad of baryzhnikhreneliarders from among friends of a friend.
            But the PvV citizen said that only galoshes could be made in the USSR.

            Go through the forest. This nonsense is impossible to read.
            1. -5
              4 November 2020 15: 29
              Quote: OrangeBigg
              Go through the forest. This nonsense is impossible to read.

              Pink ponies objectively can neither read nor perceive reality adequately. That's why they are pink.
          2. +3
            3 November 2020 22: 15
            Quote: Stroporez
            as a Putin peremogue, and after all, Putinism did not create absolutely ANYTHING

            Alas, you are right. I said that the USSR did not die de jure and this is a fact. Everything that is now being done in the Russian Federation is in fact a universally punishable case under the laws of the USSR. As for the achievements ... so don't take it, all these are developments started in the Union. It's just that many uryakalka do not understand this, either from dementia or from illiteracy. Everything, absolutely all new developments in the Russian Federation, everything began to be created in the Union. And it is on this backlog of a great country that we still say that we are a great country and we have the most powerful army in the world.
            They all swore an oath to the Union in the army. And de facto, without exception, all the helmsmen and chief officers of our country are CRIMINALS, for they swore an oath to that country to defend it, even at the cost of their lives.
          3. +6
            3 November 2020 23: 46
            Quote: Stroporez
            But the PvV citizen said that only galoshes could be made in the USSR.

            Did you accurately reproduce the phrase of the PVV citizen? It seems to me that you do not know what he really said.
            Quote: Stroporez
            the achievements of the engineering thought of the USSR are presented as Putin's peremogue, but in fact Putinism did not create absolutely ANYTHING

            By the way, since the late 70s, the USSR experienced an acute shortage of food from the main group and imported a large amount of it, and today Russia produces more than 80% of food products itself and gets more from food exports than from the products of the military-industrial complex. You can give an example of another product, but this is another time. And in order not to be less surprised, listen to the "echo of Moscow" and bulk nonsense ...
            1. 0
              4 November 2020 06: 39
              Quote: Hagen
              By the way, since the late 70s, the USSR experienced an acute shortage of food from the main group and imported a large amount of it, and today Russia produces more than 80% of food products itself and gets more from food exports than from the products of the military-industrial complex.

              And for whom are you writing this, for the bosses? How much is your leavened putriotism? laughing
              1. +6
                4 November 2020 07: 23
                If he is paid, it is in rubles. Unlike you dollar hats.
              2. +8
                4 November 2020 09: 09
                Quote: Stroporez
                And for whom are you writing this, for the bosses?

                I am writing this to counterbalance your lies. But at whose expense are you breaching here, this is a question ...
            2. 0
              4 November 2020 15: 27
              Quote: Hagen
              Did you accurately reproduce the phrase of the PVV citizen? It seems to me that you do not know what he really said.

              https://youtu.be/onki6_Prtm4
              1. -1
                5 November 2020 11: 23
                Quote: JD1979
                https://youtu.be/onki6_Prtm4

                This figuratively cropped speech is about a quarter of what Putin said, the rest are not quoted by the fighters against the regime. For the further words of the GDP to the leftists are like a sickle in one place: why, the president is proud of the achievements of the Soviet regime.
          4. -1
            4 November 2020 09: 57
            Don't bother turning up bags!
          5. +6
            4 November 2020 10: 17
            Here, Stroporez, we can partly agree with you: yes, the engines are not the most advanced, but you, the Soros, did EVERYTHING so that Russia could NEVER produce something like that, destroying and disorganizing all modern production facilities to please the Yankees and even letting knife and planes and rockets and mines.
            But here you were not lucky - we are slowly getting up from the ruins created by you, the Soros, and one of your main villains already on Friday held a meeting with the ambassadors of the leading Western countries (and Finland, which joined them (which she will soon regret!))) On the subject of providing him, the red haired gallows, of political asylum
            1. +5
              4 November 2020 20: 09
              Quote: hydrox
              But here you were not lucky - we are slowly getting up from the ruins created by you, the Soros, and one of your main villains already on Friday held a meeting with the ambassadors of the leading Western countries

              Are you writing all this to me or are you talking to yourself? In both cases, you are addressing the wrong address, in the first you are addressing Putin. and in the second to the merry house. laughing
              But in general, you are very sparkling annealing, go on, it's funny to me. laughing laughing laughing
          6. +1
            4 November 2020 15: 53
            Quote: Stroporez
            That's what keeps me amazed, Duc is that the achievements of the engineering thought of the USSR are presented as Putin's peremogue, and after all, Putinism has not created absolutely ANYTHING, except for a myriad of baryzhnikhreneliarders from among friends of a friend.
            But the PvV citizen said that only galoshes could be made in the USSR.

            How "modern" Russia can create is clearly seen in the activities of such a "super-efficient corporation" Roscosmos. For 30 years NOTHING NEW has been done, only modernization of the Royal missiles, and even then only because they broke off relations with Ukraine, otherwise they would still fly with Ukrainian analog systems on board.
            And the beginning of the production of both engines and aircraft, on the one hand, good news, on the other hand, it is a banal RESTORATION of the production that was buried with the collapse of the USSR. The production was restarted, but how many years were wasted? And what do they produce? All the same masterpieces of high-class design engineers that were prepared by the education system under the USSR - Tu-160 and NK-32, but already modernized.
            An example of Russian engineering is the SSJ-100, and this is an even more or less successful project. The Il-112V became a litmus test of the state of the design school (before that, everyone laughed at the Ukrainian An-178 whose CM was not calculated), which, despite its class, had an overload of 2 tons by the mass of the aircraft itself. About AN-2, and its replacement, which is needed like air for such a huge country like Russia, has already been said, retold. Probably easier to buy from the Chinese who still produce it.
            At the same time, to say that everything is bad, the same is not true, there are successes that did not exist under the USSR, but there is one thing, but often these successes are not the result of state policy, as it was under the USSR, but the result of the efforts of individual people acting rather contrary to the system.
          7. +1
            5 November 2020 01: 27
            , and after all, Putinism did not create absolutely

            Neither in the article nor in the comments above is there a word about Putin.
            Only in you, at the sight of any success, anger arises and you associate all your successes with GDP.
            Earlier, I also wondered how it is all the time to think about the same person and to be malicious ...
            Now I am not surprised, but glad, because everything that happens around is described by the phrase: the dogs bark. The caravan is going.

            Of course I congratulate the Tupolevites. Keep it up, work, create and everything will work out.
          8. -1
            5 November 2020 11: 07
            Quote: Stroporez
            But the PvV citizen said that only galoshes could be made in the USSR.

            Congratulations to you, citizen, a lie! ©
            Yes, my dear, yes. No need to discuss. The fact is that what we produced (and we don’t have to wave our hands), nobody needed, because nobody bought our galoshes, except for the Africans, who had to walk on the hot sand. That is the whole point.

            We had a defense industry - cool, strong, and we are still proud of it. We are grateful to our grandfathers and our fathers for creating such a defense after the Great Patriotic War.

            From the audience: ... And the first satellite.

            Vladimir Putin: Both the first satellite and the first man in space are our common pride, these are the achievements of the Soviet government, of which we are all proud. These are nationwide achievements.


            But consumer goods ... Zhirinovsky has already said this. Where were they? There were none. Let's not lie to each other and the people. The people know what was and what was not.
            © GDP
          9. 0
            15 November 2020 18: 36
            You, sir, rams beguiled ...
            Your name is Rubber product No. 2.
      2. +1
        4 November 2020 18: 10
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Good news for tomorrow's holiday.

        Only this news must be submitted professionally ... quote - "...... the crew under the guidance of test pilot of Zhukovskaya flight test and development base Anri Naskidyants" ...... and whose LIIIDB? belay
        Indeed, in Ramenskoye, all design bureaus have their own LII IDB ... so ... "PJSC Tupolev" to indicate ... forgot wink
    2. +22
      3 November 2020 18: 20
      as well as new engines NK-32-02 (series 2), the serial production of which was restored in Samara (JSC UEC-Kuznetsov).

      But how many of all and all kinds of enterprises are tied to this ?! And it all worked!
      This is great news!
      1. +24
        3 November 2020 18: 33
        Now you won't have to worry about the engine resource.
        And you can build new aircraft. Huge success and victory of the Russian Federation!
    3. +1
      3 November 2020 21: 06
      Quote: kristofer
      Well, fine

      I, too, would not add anything Inokentiy .. Ours are working and this is the main thing! hi
  2. +18
    3 November 2020 17: 57
    Good luck, bird!
    1. +7
      3 November 2020 19: 08
      Peaceful sky, "Swan"! smile
      1. -10
        3 November 2020 22: 17
        Quote: Scary_L.
        Peaceful sky, "Swan"! smile

        NOT RUSSIAN BUT SOVIET! The country, which most of the men of Russia betrayed when serving in the army and taking an oath to THAT country, was violated.
        1. +11
          4 November 2020 00: 27
          And how to "protect" a state that has ceased to exist, being in the ranks of the armed forces of actually another state? The White Guards tried to do this in 1918; as a result of the civil war, Russia lost its population 4 times more than in WWI in the same 4 years. Do you want to repeat in terms of using nuclear weapons? "No, guys, I won't give you a machine gun!" (from)
          1. +1
            4 November 2020 01: 13
            Quote: Fil743
            And how to "protect" a state that has ceased to exist,

            And you just take the trouble to study the procedure for the "disintegration" of the USSR, and then it may come to you that the USSR still exists legally.
            Quote: Fil743
            being in the ranks of the armed forces of actually another state?

            A self-proclaimed openly criminal element, who was Yeltsin? To study the Criminal Code of the USSR, as well as the legality of what Yeltsin did ... it will take 400 years there.
            Quote: Fil743
            As a result of the civil war, Russia lost its population 4 times more than in WWI over the same 4 years.

            Russia from 91 to 2000 lost people, a number commensurate with the losses in the Great Patriotic War, dear. And this is thanks to Yeltsin and the one who put him on the Russian throne - ILLEGAL!
        2. +4
          5 November 2020 01: 30
          The country, which most of the men of Russia betrayed when serving in the army and taking an oath to THAT country, was violated.

          Is this about the Tupolevs? No? And about myself ... Why do we need this as his commout? laughing
  3. +3
    3 November 2020 17: 58
    Good news.
    I wonder if engines for Tu-22m3 are in production? As I understand it, they differ from engines for the Tu-160 only in the location of the unit box, and the engine itself is the same.
    Or I'm wrong ?
    1. +12
      3 November 2020 18: 05
      Quote: Bad_gr
      I wonder if engines for Tu-22m3 are in production?

      They said that there will be one type of engine for both aircraft.
      1. D16
        0
        3 November 2020 18: 41
        We did, but most likely it's just talk. These motors, in principle, cannot be the same, since they are installed on airplanes in fundamentally different ways.
    2. D16
      +1
      3 November 2020 18: 47
      I wonder if engines for Tu-22m3 are in production?

      New ones are not produced, but capital is in Samara.
    3. +14
      3 November 2020 19: 15
      Quote: Bad_gr
      I wonder if engines for Tu-22m3 are in production? As I understand it, they differ from engines for the Tu-160 only in the location of the unit box, and the engine itself is the same.
      Or I'm wrong ?

      The Tu-22m3m will have the same, instead of the NK-25, remotorization and unification of the avionics with the Tu-160M. At least that's what it says. NK-25 is no longer in production, NK-32 was developed on its basis
  4. -10
    3 November 2020 18: 02
    Quote: kristofer
    Well, fine

    Rather "it's better this way than nothing." There will be few Tu-160s, modernized Tu-160s will not last forever, they have already taken off most of the resource, and only 10 new ones will be built. Ideally, new ones should be built in the number and pace sufficient to replace all current Tu-160 and Tu-95.
    1. +20
      3 November 2020 18: 09
      During modernization, the glider is sorted out, the cable routes are changed and new engines are installed. I see no problems with the resource.
      1. 0
        3 November 2020 18: 23
        Quote: seregin-s1
        During modernization, the glider is sorted out, the cable routes are changed and new engines are installed. I see no problems with the resource.

        Well, here you can also recall the "fatigue" of metals. The sworn "partners" B-52 seemed to start
        "crack". Are there technologies for checking the integrity of aircraft hulls?
        1. +10
          3 November 2020 18: 31
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Are there technologies for checking the integrity of aircraft hulls

          The technology has been around for a long time.
          X-ray and ultrasound.
          1. +5
            3 November 2020 20: 10
            Vacuum workers have helium leak detectors :: sensitivity - several tens of molecules per micron crack.
        2. +6
          3 November 2020 20: 31
          Because they are 2-2,5 times older, therefore they crack
      2. +1
        3 November 2020 18: 37
        Seryogin s1 - how about a glider? Is it strengthened, how is it struggling with wear?
        1. +3
          3 November 2020 19: 47
          Quote: Thrifty
          what about the glider? Is it strengthened, how is it struggling with wear?

          The Tu-160 has a central beam (center section) welded from titanium ....
          1. 0
            4 November 2020 12: 20
            Quote: Genry
            The Tu-160 has a central beam (center section) welded from titanium ....

            Titanium alloys are prone to cracking at welds and stress raisers.
            1. +1
              4 November 2020 13: 48
              Quote: Lozovik
              Titanium alloys are prone to cracking at welds and stress raisers.

              Apparently, you are worried about the quality of the Ukrainian armored vehicle bodies made of cheap Polish armor steel.

              First, titanium is very ductile and viscous.
              Secondly, the ion welding of the Tu-160 beam is carried out in a special chamber with an appropriate temperature regime, which, after cooling, leads to stress compensation.
              1. 0
                5 November 2020 21: 48
                Quote: Genry
                Apparently, you are worried about the quality of the Ukrainian armored vehicle bodies made of cheap Polish armor steel.

                Inappropriate lunge.

                Quote: Genry
                First, titanium is very ductile and viscous.

                In VT6, plasticity is only technological - in a heated state or after intermediate annealing.

                Quote: Genry
                Secondly, the ion welding of the Tu-160 beam is carried out in a special chamber with an appropriate temperature regime, which, after cooling, leads to stress compensation.

                Electron beam welding, followed by stress relief annealing in a vacuum electric resistance furnace.
        2. +2
          4 November 2020 07: 09
          The glider is completely sorted out. There are many photos from the workshops of the 22nd plant. They stand there naked. Fragments of the glider are replaced with new ones.
      3. -5
        4 November 2020 00: 40
        I see no problems with the resource.

        Because, apparently, they are not aware of the mechanism of its change during the operation of weapons and military equipment.
      4. +1
        4 November 2020 12: 21
        Quote: seregin-s1
        I see no problems with the resource.

        The Tu-160 has an assigned resource of 7000 hours.
    2. D16
      +2
      3 November 2020 18: 34
      in the quantity and pace sufficient to replace all current Tu-160 and Tu-95.

      Tu-95 will be changed to PAK YES.
  5. +2
    3 November 2020 18: 10
    The plane is serious, causing concern among many "partners".
    1. +3
      3 November 2020 19: 07
      The plane is serious, causing concern among many "partners".


      And when there are 25 of them (preferably twice as many, of course), this concern of our enemies will increase even more.
  6. -11
    3 November 2020 18: 36
    A new engine, new avionics - this is certainly good news.
    And here I am gnawed by doubt about the practical usefulness of strategic aircraft as such.
    Well, okay, if we were going to attack who first. They flew in at hour X, fired rockets and a kirdyk to the "partners".
    And if a sudden blow to us, the plane will be killed even at the airfield without even having time to warm up the engines.
    1. +12
      3 November 2020 19: 20
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      And if a sudden blow to us, the plane will be killed even at the airfield without even having time to warm up the engines.

      During the threatened period, all aircraft change their location. Suddenly, how is it? It is necessary to turn off all air defense, satellites, reconnaissance finally)))
      1. -10
        3 November 2020 19: 32
        Quote: ZEMCH
        planes change their location.

        Fly away into space?
        No, just to another airfield, to which the minuteman will fly in the same way.
        And no air defense will help. Even if everyone knows that something is about to happen, the plane is still on the ground,
        1. +8
          3 November 2020 19: 37
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          to which the minuteman will fly in the same way.

          Do you really think that it is possible to suddenly launch Minutemans and Tridents ?!
          Then humanity will live quite a bit, and indeed, where the planes will stand anyway, after the retaliatory strike there will be nowhere to live)))
        2. +10
          4 November 2020 01: 21
          Even if everyone knows that something is about to happen, the plane still stands on the ground,

          With the engines running, with suspended ASPs, with the crew assigned to a specific combat mission, the DA aircraft pair on duty will take off in 2-3 minutes. During the threatened period, ALL Long-Range Aviation aircraft can be transferred to readiness mode No. 1, for this you just need to start the engines (since the aircraft are already filled with fuel, special fluids, charged with gases, the ASP set is loaded (suspended), the coordinates of the targets are entered, the crews are on workplaces and await a command to start the engines). 30 percent will definitely survive and have time to take off. And there the Strategic Missile Forces with the Navy and the "Dead Hand" will be connected. Do not worry, it will certainly not seem to anyone.
          1. -3
            4 November 2020 05: 39
            Quote: Fil743
            With engines running, with suspended ASPs, with a crew,

            Yeah, and how quickly this running engine will eat up all the kerosene. An airplane ready for a fast take-off cannot stand like that at the start all day.
            Quote: Fil743
            you just need to start the engines (since the planes are already refueled

            Yeah, and then warm up, taxi to the runway, wait until the previous one takes off and ... that's it, the minuteman is already here.
            So about 30% you are very optimistic.
            The very same pair on duty will take off and survive, and even then, if during the watch it has not eaten up its entire take-off resource and the minuteman did not arrive during the shift shift. Well, maybe one more couple, which was the second to take off,

            In addition, as they wrote here, hardly anyone will start a war in good health and firm memory. Most likely there will be no threatened period, concentration of forces, intelligence data, etc. etc.
            A technical failure will stupidly happen or something will seem to someone, and it flew ...

            Well, yes, the Strategic Missile Forces and the "dead hand" will take revenge. But we're talking about airplanes.
            1. +4
              4 November 2020 12: 30
              Quote: Jacket in stock
              Yeah, and how quickly this running engine will eat up all the kerosene. An airplane ready for a fast take-off cannot stand like that at the start all day.

              The APA and air conditioner are external, so no kerosene is consumed.

              Quote: Jacket in stock
              Yeah, and then warm up, taxi to the runway, wait until the previous one takes off and ... that's it, the minuteman is already here.

              If ready, the engines are already warmed up. You need to start the APU, from it a couple of engines (1 and 2, then 3 and 4).
              On the Tu-22M2, for example, they practiced takeoff in pairs, the width of the strip (80 m) allowed, and the division commander, Major General Treznyuk, even took off from taxiing.
          2. +1
            4 November 2020 12: 32
            Quote: Fil743
            aircraft pair on duty YES

            In long-range aviation there are no pairs on duty; it takes ... an hour to bring an aircraft into combat readiness in the missile carrier version.
            1. 0
              11 November 2020 07: 31
              And you, young man, how long have you served in YES? I'm 86 (19 .., of courselol) I still found it, though already in the training version.
              1. 0
                10 July 2021 09: 03
                Just now I noticed the message. Since 1976, has seen the beginning of rearmament from Tu-16 to Tu-22M2. In case of the outbreak of hostilities, there was a planned number 1, a certain number of carriers (aircraft in the missile carrier version) and crews (all BG-1, that is, fully prepared KBP, ready to use nuclear weapons) were put into it. The warheads of the cruise missiles were stored in the RTB and the walls of the storage did not leave.
        3. +1
          4 November 2020 07: 38
          "No, just to another airfield, to which the minuteman will fly in the same way."
          Excuse me, but where did you see thousands of free minutemans at the mattress mats to cover all the field airfields of our VKS? I can just remind you that the Tu-160 is capable of operating from airfields, where NATO fighters will not even land.
          1. -3
            4 November 2020 08: 11
            Quote: Stroibat stock
            The Tu-160 is capable of operating from airfields that NATO fighters will not even land on.

            Really?
            Blessed is he who believes.
            Quote: Stroibat stock
            thousands of free minutemans to cover all field airfields

            And the skoka of those airfields? Straight thousands?
            Even some conventional IL-2 could not take off from any clearing. Need infrastructure... - maintenance, fuel, ammunition supply, communications ... and so on, so on, so on ...
            1. 0
              11 November 2020 19: 07
              And the skoka of those airfields? Straight thousands?

              And the lope of those Minutemen? They, after all, do not start "from half a kick" either. Or do you think that the command to launch the ICBM is issued by the shift officer on duty or the commander (warhead commander) from the nuclear submarine? And what if REP "Murmansk" will be used not by 30% (communication interference in the UK), but 100%? In this case, will at least some indication from the White House reach anywhere? But this is not the main thing. If the Americans were sure that a nifiga would not fly back to them for nuclear strikes, they would have been hit long ago. And so they calculate "their" minutes and "our" airfields better than you.
    2. +1
      3 November 2020 20: 16
      For this, there is a missile defense system, everything else is not the most terrible and essential, especially since a dozen or two torn avant-gardes immediately revive the overly presumptuous "sworn partners", especially do not pay attention to the symbols of their statehood.
      1. -2
        4 November 2020 06: 35
        Quote: hydrox
        There is a missile defense for this, everything else is not the most terrible and essential,

        Missile defense only covers Moscow. Those. the rest of the country in your opinion is not essential?
        Quote: hydrox
        a dozen or two exploded vanguards immediately revive

        Especially when you consider that only 4 of them were made.
        Not a dozen, but pieces.
        1. 0
          4 November 2020 20: 58
          This is four for you, but how many in fact and where they brought it - you don't need to know anything at all ...
  7. -1
    3 November 2020 18: 39
    Quote: D16
    in the quantity and pace sufficient to replace all current Tu-160 and Tu-95.

    Tu-95 will be changed to PAK YES.

    PAK YES ... it would be nice, but I think it will not even be in 10 years ... By all hands on other directions, they hurry and a decision was made to follow the path of least resistance.
  8. +4
    3 November 2020 18: 40
    And good health to Anri Zurabovich!
  9. D16
    +3
    3 November 2020 18: 51
    Eh and get drunk today representatives of JSC "UEC-Kuznetsov". Fortunately, tomorrow is a day off drinks ... How many years these motors could not pass due to accidents at the stand winked .
    1. +1
      3 November 2020 20: 21
      And the new thing always gets it like that :: with sweat and blood !, and no nasty libert will convince me that the "sworn partners" slept and saw in a dream how to make the Russians happy with advanced and innovative technologies, so that in the morning these "damned Russians "would never wake up
  10. +4
    3 November 2020 19: 13
    Good luck brothers! Good support on the plane and that the device was obedient one hundred percent!
  11. +2
    3 November 2020 19: 34
    Quote: D16
    Tu-95 will be changed to PAK YES.

    Sorry, but you can forget a little about PAK YES. The production of Tu-160, Su-57 is ONLY BEGINNING, and it will be about 10-15 years. With our rate of several aircraft a year. It's expensive Everything depends on financing. And our military budget is not like from the Americans. hi
    1. D16
      +1
      3 November 2020 20: 12
      Sorry, but you can forget about PAK YES.

      Shoigu told you this? smile The newest long-range bomber will go into production in 2027:
      https://www.interfax.ru/russia/691074
      So far, there has been no other officialdom. This, of course, does not mean that everything will go according to plan, but the project has not been canceled.
      1. +1
        4 November 2020 18: 21
        I won't argue with you, I'm not going to die yet (and I wish you the same), so we'll see. There are not 27, but the beginning of 30, they will test, bring, build a line. In general, in the late 30s they will produce
        1. D16
          0
          5 November 2020 06: 52
          .There is not 27, but the beginning of 30, they will test, bring, build a line.

          .95s will work for another 10-15 years. These are not Lancers smile.
  12. 0
    3 November 2020 19: 58
    Good news.! And they did a good deed .. Oh, there would be about 30 such handsome men for us ... So that over all the oceans ...
  13. +13
    3 November 2020 20: 14
    As far as I understand, this car is from the old groundwork.
    1. +1
      4 November 2020 06: 36
      This is a car from the presence of the Air Force.
  14. +3
    3 November 2020 20: 23
    I remember Naskidyants from Soviet times in Akhtubinsk. But then he was Andrey.
  15. +5
    3 November 2020 20: 37
    The next large-scale event - take off with this Tu22M3M engine?
  16. 0
    4 November 2020 03: 39
    Good news.
    Thank you.
  17. +1
    4 November 2020 06: 58
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote: Stroporez
    But the PvV citizen said that only galoshes could be made in the USSR.

    Did you accurately reproduce the phrase of the PVV citizen? It seems to me that you do not know what he really said ...

    in fact, he said: ".... everything that we (the USSR) produced was not needed by anyone, no one bought our galoshes, except the Africans, because they had to walk on the hot sand ...."
    as nobody needs, but on this "nobody needs" the Lomehuzes got fat, plundered billions, became oligarchs
    such cases hi
    1. 0
      5 November 2020 11: 29
      Quote: Gunter
      in fact, he said: ".... everything that we (the USSR) produced was not needed by anyone, no one bought our galoshes, except the Africans, because they had to walk on the hot sand ...."

      Nope. In fact, it was said that we had the nationwide achievements of the Soviet regime, which we are proud of - defense industry, space. But the consumer goods in the USSR were absolutely unsatisfactory in quality and nomenclature.
  18. +2
    4 November 2020 07: 05
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    Yeah, and then warm up, taxi to the lane, wait until the previous one takes off and ... that's it, the minuteman is already here

    stop
    well, minutemans also do not take off at once, like a swarm of flies, one by one, intermittently.
    so there is time, with proper organization of the service.
  19. +3
    4 November 2020 07: 17
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Fil743
    And how to "protect" a state that has ceased to exist,

    And you just take the trouble to study the procedure for the "disintegration" of the USSR, and then it may come to you that the USSR still exists legally.
    Quote: Fil743
    being in the ranks of the armed forces of actually another state?

    A self-proclaimed openly criminal element, who was Yeltsin? To study the Criminal Code of the USSR, as well as the legality of what Yeltsin did ... it will take 400 years there.
    Quote: Fil743
    As a result of the civil war, Russia lost its population 4 times more than in WWI over the same 4 years.

    Russia from 91 to 2000 lost people, a number commensurate with the losses in the Great Patriotic War, dear. And this is thanks to Yeltsin and the one who put him on the Russian throne - ILLEGAL!

    good
    There is a so-called. Roman law, at the time of the collapse of the USSR, traitors with a party card in their pocket (marked, EBNo, yasin, gaydak, Chubaiser, etc., etc.) violated the legal norms and laws in force at that time when leaving the USSR.
    So the USSR is de jure alive, even according to the norms of international law.
    This is without taking into account the shooting in the center of Moscow, by tanks, by direct fire, of the citizens of the USSR, who, by the way, did not refuse the citizenship of the USSR.
    So it goes.
  20. +16
    4 November 2020 09: 03
    We waited for the resumption of production good I am glad. The plane is unique for its niche.
  21. 0
    5 November 2020 07: 16
    The good news though.
  22. 0
    5 November 2020 12: 05
    2x higher, 2x faster ... what
  23. 0
    5 November 2020 15: 47
    Quote: Hagen
    acute shortage of food in the main group and imported a large amount of it,

    You can clarify
  24. 0
    5 November 2020 17: 11
    Next in line is Tu22m3m with the same turbojet engine?