Azerbaijan showed in detail the destruction of the Armenian MLRS "Smerch" in Karabakh

The Azerbaijani army destroyed the "Smerch" MLRS of the Armenian armed forces shelling the city of Barda. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.

The Azerbaijani military department showed in detail the destruction of the enemy's Smerch MLRS, which fired at "civilians and civilian infrastructure in the city of Barda." The corresponding video was posted on the official channel of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic on YouTube.

On October 29, at about 15:18, the enemy's Smerch MLRS was destroyed by accurate fire from our units

- said in a statement.

Earlier, Baku reported about the artillery shelling of a number of settlements by the Armenian army.

From 07:35 the territory of Goranboy, Terter, Agdam and Agjabedi districts is exposed to artillery fire. Azerbaijani army is taking adequate measures

- stated in the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.

In turn, the Armenian military department reported on the attempts of the Azerbaijani army to launch an offensive in the southeastern and northern directions on the night from Thursday to Friday. As stated in the press service, all attempts were thwarted by the defense army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR).

During the night, units of the [NKR] Defense Army continued to conduct operations in areas where enemy groups were located, as a result of which they destroyed a large number of enemy ammunition and manpower. After midnight, enemy forces attempted an offensive in the southeast direction, which was stopped by army units. The enemy also tried to succeed in the northern direction, which was also stopped

- said in a statement.

Meanwhile, the Armenian Armed Forces posted on their YouTube channel a video of the training of volunteers who arrived from Javakh (Armenian name) before being sent to the front. This territory was once part of "Great Armenia", but now it is located on the territory of Georgia and is called "Javakheti". A large Armenian diaspora lives in this region, which does not consider this land to be Georgian.

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[aszzz888]

stated in the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan. ... In turn, the military department of Armenia

There is no end and end to this conflict.

[Livonetc]

With a tendency to expand?
"who arrived from Javakkh (Armenian name) before being sent to the front. This territory was once part of" Great Armenia ", but now it is located on the territory of Georgia and is called" Javakheti ". A large Armenian diaspora lives in this region, which does not consider this land to be Georgian. "

[bayard]

Quote: Livonetc

With a tendency to expand?

Quote: Livonetc

"Javakheti". A large Armenian diaspora lives in this region, which does not consider this land to be Georgian. "

This is the whole essence of the Armenian Dashnaks - on the spread of their "certificates" back in 1990 they depicted the map of "Great Armenia" - from Lebanon to Baku.
So there is nothing wrong with the fact that now their livestock is being actively reduced. By the way, it was they - the Dashnaks, who once blew up the metro train cars in Moscow (with many human casualties) long before the collapse of the Soviet Union - the very same gosyatnitsy.
Let them embody their dreams of "great armies" now on the battlefield, and the more of them remain on this field, the easier it will be later for the rest to agree.
And these "warriors" have shown their essence in missile strikes against residential areas outside the combat zone.
The more Dashnaks and terrorists from Syria are buried in Karabakh, the more fertile the land will be.

[Rubina]

On the next branch, the Armenians put up a poor fellow Arab and claim that he is an Azerbaijani mercenary. Everyone saw a photo in which a barefoot soldier in the uniform of an Azerbaijani border guard was sitting next to the Armenian Defense Minister, for which Shushan was not fired for some reason. There is such a noise! Terrorists from Syria in Azerbaijan! Guard!
And here in plain text, foreign citizens are fighting in Karabakh on the side of the Armenians - and silence!

[bayard]

Quote: Rubina

And here in plain text, foreign citizens are fighting in Karabakh on the side of the Armenians - and silence!

Why is there silence? All information is publicly available, just the Armenian lobby in the Russian media is two orders of magnitude more powerful than the Azerbaijani one.
And of course the fact that for Russia and for its citizens, Arab terrorists and Turkish proxies in the Transcaucasus are a red line. Your long-standing dispute with the Armenians should be resolved on the battlefield (since the negotiations for 30 years have not yielded results), but honestly. Azerbaijan can also pull up its compatriots, and this will be perceived normally - the defense of the Motherland is a sacred concept.
Today you are given carte blanche to resolve a painful issue, and no matter how the Armenians groan, they will not be able to drag Russia to help in a wrong cause. But you must also abide by the rules - this is your land and your sons (including the diaspora) must defend it, without attracting other interested parties to the conflict, and freeing their lands, and not capturing strangers. If Armenia gets involved openly in this conflict, there will be no talk of any guarantees from the CSTO, but our base is on its territory, so we must act carefully.
Do not get dirty with the connection with terrorists, solve the issue on your own. So that no one could reproach you afterwards. And everything will be fine, we still have a lot of interesting things ahead.
And the Armenians receive a lesson and a rabies vaccination.

[Rubina]

Let's be logical.
1. How many videos have you seen of direct contact combat between the Armenian and Azerbaijani armies? The whole war is fought on the computer - the Syrian peasants can do it?
2. Special forces fighters make sabotage sorties - here the connection between fighters and with the base is very important - to assign an interpreter to every Syrian in battle?
3. We have at least 1,000 Azerbaijanis in prisons, who are imprisoned for becoming militants - a ready-made free penal battalion, but they also do not know how to fight like special forces
4. Do we need to quarrel with Russia? We are not suicidal.
All the stories about the barmaley from Syria are myths invented by the Armenians, because it simply does not fit into their heads that "tomato traders" know how to fight. Aliyev insulted Macron, and there is no evidence.

[bayard]

Did I blame you for this?
Conversations and rumors about Syrian mercenaries have not yet received any evidence base, and God forbid that they remain so rumors. But there are also no reasons not to trust our foreign intelligence that there is recruitment to Karabakh in Idlib. I think this is the initiative of Erdogan and his entourage, but for you it will only be a minus, so let the rumors remain rumors.
Azerbaijan and Armenia are members of the CIS, and the Karabakh conflict began in the late USSR, when Gorbachev incited ethnic conflicts throughout the Union, when he supported the Armenians in their dishonest claims. After the collapse of the USSR, they further aggravated the situation by capturing the areas adjacent to non-profit organizations ... And they did not want to settle the matter peacefully.
Now everything is decided on the battlefield, and let this fight be fair and flawless on your part. Strength and truth are on your side, and I think you yourself have noticed that in recent days, both the media and public opinion have less and less support for Armenians. To many uninitiated in the nature and history of this conflict, the true state of affairs has already reached. Your situation is to compare the situation in Serbia and its historical province of Kosovo, which at one time accepted Albanian refugees, and then, under the auspices of external players, seized this land from Serbia, subjecting local residents to genocide.
The same thing happened in Karabakh and adjacent regions.
But Russia does not need the presence of either Turkey or its proxy in Transcaucasia - it was not enough for NATO bases to appear there over time. And you don't need them either.
The President of Russia has already proposed to resolve the conflict by transferring all seven previously occupied regions to Azerbaijan and broad cultural autonomy for NGOs. Of course, with complete demilitarization. Your president has suggested the same thing before. So there is a complete consensus in the views of the Russian and Azerbaijani leaderships. There is only one thing left - for the Armenian side to accept these proposals.
And if you do not make mistakes in the remaining time, the issue will be resolved and finally closed.
In the meantime, the battlefield decides everything.

[Zaurbek]

Yemeni peasants also do not have a lot of things .... and the Arabs are richer than Azerbaijan and they have more weapons. And yet.

[Aleksandr1971]

Wrong.
If large states do not get involved in this conflict, then the end will come in 3-4 weeks. The Azerbaijanis will knock out heavy equipment from the Armenians, and then they will occupy Karabakh.

[Leeds]

Not without chagrin, it remains once again to pay tribute to the Turkish UAVs, their capabilities and accuracy of hitting targets (remembering not so much about the defeat of equipment, but about the personnel of arrivals to Armenian trenches and entrances to dugouts) ... I hope this will be another motivational impetus for our MIC.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Another minus 2 tornadoes. Well, did the disguise help?

[Lexus]

Thank you for the video!
The arctic fox crept unnoticed.

[Fungus]

It is foolish to keep troops on the front line without the support of air defense and electronic warfare.

[VyacheSeymour]

It is foolish to keep troops on the front line without the support of air defense and electronic warfare.

And who is smart to keep on the front line?

[Zaurbek]

Well, a tornado is not "advanced" ..... but in the army of the USSR and the Russian Federation there were some standards for the deployment and curtailment and cover of air defense ..... or do you think that NATO pilots (even in those years) will itch for a long time When will the battery of a MLRS caliber 300mm be detected?

[EXPrompt]

This is not our war, the main thing is to remember this. And there is no need for the Russian Federation to get into this mess.
For centuries they have cut each other with rapture, and stand each other, the Russian Federation will not change this paradigm even if it intervenes. Well, let them do their favorite thing.

[Igor Semenov]

That's how it is. But in this case, the Russian Federation goes to the level of a passive observer, whose opinion in the region no one will take into account. Why, because the Russian Federation is "just an observer"

[Greenwood]

IMHO in this case we do not need to quarrel with any party to the conflict. First of all, with Azerbaijan, of course, since it generally behaves as an adequate partner with a balanced foreign policy, and most importantly, is solvent. You can sell him more weapons worth billions of dollars, and he is able to pay for them. Why lose such a client ?!

[Hypertension]

Quote: Greenwood

You can sell him more weapons worth billions of dollars, and he is able to pay for them.

I doubt that Azerbaijan will want to buy Russian weapons. If only the most modern, which Russia itself needs. And from the warehouses he doesn't need tanks and infantry fighting vehicles for nothing - everyone saw what they were capable of (hint: like targets at a shooting range). Another UAV will be bought from the Turks. And everything else that is needed.

[Megatron]

In conflicts of low intensity or with popuas (in this case, the Armenians act, because the army has not been modernized since the end of the 80s of the 20th century). And if they try the same with Iran, or God forbid Russia to fight. Immediately in f ... were.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Megatron

And if they try the same with Iran, or God forbid Russia to fight. Immediately in f ... were.

But the hell knows how it would have turned out. In 41, they also thought that we would fight "with little blood, on foreign territory." Karabakh once again shows that shapkozidstvo does not lead to good.

[Oquzyurd]

Minus 2 more tornadoes

[OgnennyiKotik]

Again, to the question of disguise, or rather its uselessness. The tornadoes did everything right, arrived at the position, shot, curled up and hid. Only UAVs don't care about that.

[Oquzyurd]

The operator waited patiently to find out the location of the nest.

[Oquzyurd]

UAV today ...........

[EXPrompt]

And who told you that the RF is a passive observer, not even a passive one, I suspect by the dip. The Azerbaijanis have already been told to the channels that they should not step into the territory of Armenia, otherwise it will hurt.
And then, obviously, Putin is trying to try them on, this is by no means passivity.

[Konnick]

Quote: EXPrompt

who told you that the RF is a passive observer, not even a passive one, I suspect by dip. The Azerbaijanis have already been told to the channels that they should not step into the territory of Armenia, otherwise it will hurt.
And then, obviously, Putin is trying to try them on, this is not passivity

Some kind of non-traditional vocabulary. And they stamped their feet in the bunker. Does Azerbaijan really need a further war? And they don’t have to walk into the territory of Armenia, they will get it anyway if the Armenians make provocations from their territory.

[AlexeyEg]

You are kind of cruel. What will you do when a boxer beats a child in front of your eyes? And what is fair? Try to listen to a very good analyst who knows more about this. I'm on Satan's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpRP4EUSCcM

[EXPrompt]

Your comparison is incorrect, Armenians are never children. They were able to win the first war in the 1s and even expelled the entire Azerbaijani population from the territory, that is, they cleaned it out. What kind of children they are.
If the Armenians took Karabakh in 90, it means they took all the responsibility. Who would have thought that a response could arrive. And if you don’t pull responsibility, then you need to bring the wishlist to match your strengths. Which is what happens.

I say differently, we RF should not fulfill all the wishes, even if our allies. The question is of principle, who is the tail of the CSTO, and who is sobokin.
By the way, Old Man was not allowed to support Karimov within the framework of the CSTO at one time .. And here we need to do exactly the same .. This is not our business, not ours. Let them figure it out.

[Avior]

And how does Georgia see the fact that Georgian citizens are sent volunteers to fight in Azerbaijan?

[Livonetc]

A mess in Georgia.
Now again Mishiko is trying to get in there.
But the Georgian Armenians will go to war, but they will return, with bad intentions and weapons in their hands.

[Avior]

Yes, it's a mess, but won't the diaspora have problems from this?

[Hello from Baku]

There was no article in the Georgian Criminal Code for mercenarism. They were going to enter in 2015.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

And how does Georgia see the fact that Georgian citizens are sent volunteers to fight in Azerbaijan?

Just as they look at how Georgian citizens go to fight in Ukraine against the LPNR, or how their citizens from the Panki Gorge go to fight in Syria against Assad.

[Avior]

The article wrote that the diaspora does not consider itself a part of Georgia, so the Georgians should assume a second Karabakh.
How do they feel about this - the question ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

The article wrote that the diaspora does not consider itself a part of Georgia, so the Georgians should assume a second Karabakh.
How do they feel about this - the question ...

Even without Armenians, they have enough points of tension where there is a spirit of "independence" - Svaneti, Adjara and the same Pankisi Gorge where ethnic Chechens live, so that having lost South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Tbilisi is not interested in aggravating the situation, relying on ethnic contradictions and adheres to the position - "If you want to realize yourself, realize yourself outside the borders of Georgia"

[Goffman]

Quote: Avior

Georgians should assume a second Karabakh.
How do they feel about this is a question.

They are now praying that in the first Karabakh they will properly discourage such habits from the "impoverished little people".

[NTD]

Quote: Avior

And how does Georgia see the fact that Georgian citizens are sent volunteers to fight in Azerbaijan?

That's a very good question. Azerbaijan is obliged to talk on this topic with the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia in order to understand what is happening. There are agreements between Georgia and Azerbaijan. This is not the respect of Armenians for Georgians in the first place. Definitely need to be stuck to do. Call their families to the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[Rubina]

The Georgians ask us to crumble the Armenians from Javakheti, which is an "ancient Armenian land" and we will not deny this service to good neighbors

[petrakimov]

It seemed to me that the operator of Azerbaijani drones was waiting for the departure of the calculation of the second installation and only then directed the projectile at the MLRS. The first MLRS was blasted as soon as it fired, but from the second such a thing. The calculation of the second MLRS, after detonating the first car, lowered the package of guides and ran away from the car. It seems like a humane attitude towards ordinary soldiers. These are just my feelings from what I saw. A humane method of warfare aimed at knocking out military equipment

[Blackmokona]

Most likely, they first destroyed the first car, and after confirming the target, they began to defeat the second car. In order not to get confused and not to plant two missiles in one car

[LiSiCyn]

The same setting. They missed the first time, or failed to inflict serious damage. Watch the video carefully, the Tornado is in the same place. This is clearly seen in the tracks of the track.

[Igor Semenov]

Yes, they are the same setup. And the calculation began to scatter when he heard the howl of an approaching charge

[Roman070280]

They missed the first time, or failed to inflict serious damage.

the calculation began to scatter when he heard a howl

It seems to me that nifiga is not the same ..
For after the first blow, no one would have walked calmly there, lowering the installation ..
Or the time difference was big .. when they calmed down and started to lower the setup ..

[Oquzyurd]

They did not miss. The first strike with a small kamikaze drone Kargu -2 with a reinforced fuse. Purchased from Turkey and is used mostly against pickups and infantry. Apparently they decided to test it on the "Tornado" to understand how it works on large targets. that it is better to use them against a pickup truck) Therefore, the second time they hit a tornado, this time with a MAM-L rocket.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Oquzyurd

Didn't miss.

Quote: LiSiCyn

or failed to do serious damage.

[andrew42]

I also drew attention to the 1st video that the result of the defeat was not filmed.

[Dmitry Makarov]

Yes, the operator simply did not have time to destroy the Armenian missilemen, while the signal to launch the rocket reached the drone, the Armenians managed to escape.

[Andrey1978]

And the first is exactly in the installation, in the piece of iron, not in the cab.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

No need to carry iron, about humanity.

The MLRS is the same, the first time there was a miss, the crew tried to urgently change their position, but then they heard / saw a repeated attack and fled from the MLRS in different directions. There is no smell of humanism here. Moreover, the UAV operator launches the CAB in advance and cannot predict the exact operation of the calculation.

This war is simply a shame for Armenia, as well as the election of a pro-Western traitor, Pashinyan, as the leader of the country.

Pashinyan deliberately surrenders Karabakh and its defenders, so that later, without territorial disputes with a neighbor, he can drag Armenia into NATO and the EU and sever all ties with Russia.

Pashinyan and the command of the Armenian armed forces had a lot of time and information to protect both Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia from the threat from the air, but instead of this, on the contrary, they expose UAVs and tanks and artillery and even tactical missile systems under the attacks, while air defense calculations and fighter aircraft in the form of quite modern Su-30 is incomprehensible. But they send the Su-25 to the attack, knowing that a powerful Azerbaijani air defense system operates in these regions and the Su-25 simply has no chance of surviving.

Pashinyan deliberately sends Armenian soldiers to the slaughter, in order to later declare that it was not the Armenians who fought badly, but that Russian / Soviet weapons were to blame for everything. And the big losses will be "direct" proof of this.

You cannot even imagine how cunning the West is in achieving its goals. They killed thousands of their citizens on September 11 in order to get a pretext for invading Afghanistan (a springboard for attacks on Iraq and Iran), and they do not consider citizens of other countries as people at all.

And if you think that September 11th is a real terrorist attack, and not an imitation, then answer the question why the third building of the WTC collapsed, tower number 7, into which no plane crashed, and why they focus only on 2 towers of the victims from attacks by planes?

And you say humanism.

[Greenwood]

Lord, what an aggressive stream of consciousness. We started about the destruction of the MLRS, then the jingoistic revelations of the evil Pashinyan and ended with conspiracy theories and the insidiousness of the West. Horror. Looks like paranoia.

[Krasnodar]

Come on - Americans just decided to bankrupt their insurance companies

[Oquzyurd]

It does not have a stabilizer, it always jumps from 110 V to 380 V. Poor fuses do not cope, they burn out

[petrakimov]

Something I did not understand you. What do the towers and the specific actions of the UAV operator have to do with it? I just expressed my subjective assessment of the operator's actions. The operator probably has nothing to do with the US CIA.

[andrew42]

Even from the dynamics of the destruction of the two "twins" it is clear that the demolition of buildings was in the foundations of the structures.

[konstantinos kontogiannidis]

I think that the crew heard the approach of a rocket .. that's why they fled in the last seconds!

[Alien From]

All the same, Azerbaijan was preparing for the war of the 21st century.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

One should not only exaggerate the successes of Azerbaijan. These successes became possible only due to the fact that Armenia does not protect its skies at all, although it has quite modern air defense systems and fighters.

The defeat of Armenia is not a merit of Azerbaijan, it is a betrayal of Pashinyan and those people whom he put in command of the Armenian armed forces !!! These mediocrities and traitors simply merge Karabakh with its defenders, in order to then drag Armenia into the EU and NATO. This is not possible with territorial disputes.

[Alien From]

The way it is! Pashinyan is the main enemy of the Armenians!

[Avior]

Armenia cannot afford to start a war with Azerbaijan, since it will lose any Russian support, and Armenia, which is already very poor, will have a huge number of problems from the war.
The economy will simply collapse completely.
Therefore, Armenia cannot help Karabakh in order to fully use its army.
Volunteers are another matter.
But it seems that there are not as many of them as needed, and without technology they have little chance.
If Azerbaijan gets Karabakh, and it seems that this is going, then Pashinyan will blame the Armenians themselves, who did not want to fight as volunteers, and Russia, they say, why are Russian troops in Armenia if they did not help us?

[Greenwood]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Armenia's defeat is not Azerbaijan's merit

Well, of course. Yea Yea. Those. the fact that Azerbaijan has been raising its economy for many years and acquiring modern types of weapons from Russia, the CIS countries, Turkey and Israel is just a trifle. The fact that Azerbaijan completely reformed the army, introduced know-how in the form of UAVs, opened a school for operators, participated in various exercises, also means nothing. The fact that for many years Azerbaijan has been establishing diplomatic ties with other CIS countries, Turkey, Israel, Iran, the United States and Europe, having achieved approval or neutrality in relation to its position on Karabakh, is generally a garbage question.
Everything rests against Armenia. Hard case.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

UAVs are not know-how, they were used in Vietnam and for modern air defense this is not such a problem. In the same Syria and Libya, there is a small number of Panzerians, and despite the losses, they successfully resisted the UAV.

Nothing prevented Armenia from defending the Armenians and the Armenian land in Karabakh, even the means that are now quite enough to resist Azerbaijan.

But instead of real actions from Pashinyan, only words and appeals to volunteers who, with this approach, are simply sent to the slaughter.

Pashinyan deliberately surrenders Karabakh, he is a traitor!

[Greenwood]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

and for modern air defense

Modern air defense can be found in a modern army. And the Armenian army got stuck in the 80s. She has no chance.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Nothing prevented Armenia from defending the Armenians and the Armenian land in Karabakh

The lack of training of personnel, an outdated understanding of the conduct of hostilities in the 21st century, and the lack of modern technology interfere.

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

even the means that are now available are quite enough to resist Azerbaijan.

Even before the war, Azerbaijan had a multiple advantage in all positions. Even without taking into account the UAV, the Azerbaijani army was many times stronger in all respects.

[Krasnodar]

Not at all - it's just that the conduct of modern warfare has changed, and the process began back in the 80s. The Armenians were not ready for this. Others need to draw conclusions. Ground-based air defense and electronic warfare systems at the current level of technology development are not a panacea

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Krasnodar

The Armenians were not ready for this.

Many countries were not ready for this ... Even those who have UAVs. Use, yes. Limit use, yes. Completely secure yourself, no.

Quote: Krasnodar

Ground-based air defense and electronic warfare systems at the current level of technology development are not a panacea

Here I am, about the same ...
Hi Albert!

[Krasnodar]

Greetings, Stas!
It is clear that no one is ready for this today - they will have to produce their own UAV interceptors, then fighters and repeat the entire path of development of manned aviation, as well as adapt a new generation of air defense to them

[LiSiCyn]

There is such a fantastic story, "Guard Bird" or "Fear Bird". Unfortunately, I don't remember the author, like Sapkowski. So there, about the same ...

Quote: Krasnodar

will have to produce their own UAV interceptors, then fighters

[Krasnodar]

And the main thing is to remember:
"Skynet is Genesis, Genesis is Skynet"

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The Armenians also have modern S-300 air defense systems, BUKs and TORs and Su-30 fighters that can remove Bayraktar-type UAVs for tens of kilometers, they do not even need to enter the air defense zone of Azerbaijan.

But instead of this, the sky of Karabakh is protected by systems like Wasp, which cannot even reach this Bayraktar in height.

From the very beginning of this war, the Bayraktars were simply invulnerable to the air defense of Karabakh, and those S-300 systems that were used were deliberately exposed to attack and not in combat mode.

This war is just a shame and betrayal for the Armenians.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, the S-300 and Su-30M are not effective against drones. That is - he will shoot down a cheto S-300 - and very quickly die from a flock of Harop. The same with Thor and Buk

[petrakimov]

If this is true, then I am grateful to the strike UAV operator for his humanism.

[Avior]

Humanism in war is a controversial thing.
Each soldier of the enemy not killed is his own lost one.
It's another matter if they were taken prisoner instead of being killed - this is humanism.
But just not to shoot at an enemy who does not give up is not humanism towards our own. War is generally an unhuman thing: ((((

[maktub]

I looked at the wiki, did not notice that the Smerchi was in service with the NKAO Self-Defense Army

[Nastia makarova]

this is the army of Armenia !!!

[maktub]

Yet, as it were, a separate structure
On "Interfax" there was a message that a female company is being prepared in Armenia to participate in the base in the NKAO.
Darkness.

[Nastia makarova]

which is separate if the Armenian army is fighting

[maktub]

Not a separate one, but a LIKE separate - read carefully
Search the Artsakh Self-Defense Army on the wiki

[Nastia makarova]

everyone understands that the army of Armenia is there

[Butchcassidy]

Purely provocative article: Great Armenia (Armenia Magna) - in quotes, it's just a historical name, like Kievan Rus or Great Britain. There was also Little Armenia - Armenia Minor among the Romans.

Further, about the Armenians of Javakheti - lies, lies and provocation. There are ordinary people who want to have a job and raise children. All. Naturally, teaching children their native Armenian language.

Article bold minus

[petrakimov]

After reviewing the video, I saw that two UAVs were working on the second car. The first one flew when the crew was still near the car. The soldier just got out of the cab. The second blow happened after the departure of the calculation. The first UAV at 1.07 flies from the top to the left and down from the right. The calculation on hearing it immediately begins to scatter. But the operator could send the UAV with the ability to destroy the MLRS calculation. Yes, and the blow to the first car fell on the vertical guidance mechanism.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

This is just some kind of mediocrity of the Armenian command, the areas of operation of its troops must be covered with air defense, and Armenia has everything for this, and excellent modern TOR air defense systems and Su-30 fighters.

Armenians where is your air defense? Why hasn't the commander of the Armenian air defense been dismissed / shot yet, and a person who knows how and why this air defense should be used has not been appointed in his place ?!

This war is just a shame for Armenia, or rather its betrayal by its leader Pashinyan. He wants to drag Armenia into NATO and the EU and for this he gives away Karabakh so that there are no territorial disputes.

The Armenians were bought as Indians for the promise of a sweet life and will soon be driven into a reservation in which there will be no Karabakh.

It's just shame and disgrace, not war.

[Aleksandr1971]

The Armenian air defense has already been destroyed.
Therefore, heavy equipment must be protected by camouflage and false targets. The Armenians still can't do it with their brains.

[voyaka uh]

Such huge launchers cannot be disguised.
It is also impossible to make an exact layout. Very high drone optics
quality. Operators will distinguish.
Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon to hide their missiles
from air strikes: 1) first dig a tunnel 2) then dig a mine up
for a SINGLE rocket 3) drag the rocket through the tunnel
3) the roof of the mine is placed under the shed of some private house.
See how much complicated engineering work there is to run across Israel
ONE missile. One - because after launching the mine is destroyed by aircraft.

[Greenwood]

That you are all burning with righteous anger. Go to Yerevan, sign up for volunteers and go to Karabakh. You look alone to kill all mediocre Azeris like Rambo.

[Lexus]

War and "righteous" bazaar howl are different, incompatible things.

[svp67]

Watch and remember how our Russian "Tornado-G" fired at the exercises from firing positions in an open field, and then also reloaded there ...
This "eyewash" must be stopped once and for all, not those times have come now, so that it would be so "slipshod" to treat personnel training

[Vadim237]

Russia has a comprehensive and unified air defense system, as well as an air force - the Armenians have none of this, and the one that has - has full brake calculations.

[svp67]

Quote: Vadim237

Russia has a comprehensive and unified air defense system as well as an air force

Our potential adversaries, too, that is, they will fight with all available forces and means.

[Vadim237]

The drones of the strategic plan will definitely not be small, which means that on the radars they will all be as in the palm of your hand, it will be easier to shoot them down, all the more so for the Air Force fighters - "They will fight with all available forces and means." the form of nuclear strikes on their territory.

[svp67]

Quote: Vadim237

They will not fight with us because they know that the answer will be in the form of nuclear strikes on their territory.

They expect to be able to withdraw our nuclear forces with the first global strike

[Sanichsan]

Quote: svp67

They expect to be able to withdraw our nuclear forces with the first global strike

just don't count. even in optimistic scenarios it does not work, otherwise they would have been attacked long ago.

[Operator]

The firing position of the Russian Smerch MLRS was unimpeded from a distance of 15 km from the Turkish reconnaissance UAV Bayraktar (flight altitude up to 8200 meters). The MLRS was destroyed by a Turkish guided munition with its own optical guidance channel, the operator of which already knew where to direct the UB.

In other words, we absolutely do not have, as a class, small air defense systems with a passive optical guidance channel, which have a UAV interception range of 15 to 25 km (in the short term) at an altitude of 8 to 12 km, as well as KAZ with UB interception at the turn of 100 meters.

As a result, assembled "from shit and sticks" Turkish UAVs and UB on the battlefield completely dominate the super-duper Russian MLRS.

Maybe it's time to change something in the RF Ministry of Defense?

[Snail N9]

In the RF Ministry of Defense, the voices of those who believe that “no drone can replace an airplane with a pilot even in a“ global war ”" - they say, "drones are" children's toys "- still sound" loud "- .... the main task of air defense : protection against ballistic, hypersonic and cruise missiles ... and drones, from them, like, EW will fight off ...

[svp67]

Quote: Snail N9

Voices still sound "loud" in the RF Ministry of Defense

Where and when do you hear these voices?

Quote: Snail N9

that "no drone can replace a plane with a pilot even in a" global war "" - they say, "drones are" children's toys "

If this were so, then our troops would not be massively equipped with UAVs now.

Quote: Snail N9

..the main task of air defense: protection against ballistic, hypersonic and cruise missiles ... and drones, from them, such as electronic warfare ...

You generally understand that there is a country's air defense and military air defense, and their tasks are significantly different.
And if we are to be completely objective, then modern UAVs really are not a full-fledged replacement for military aviation, at least in terms of carrying capacity and maneuverable speed characteristics

[Lexus]

Sergei ,
why can't we see from our similar videos from Syria? There would be no questions.

[Vadim237]

"Maybe it's time to change something in the RF Ministry of Defense?" Or maybe you have already finished all the crap to write equalizing the Russian and Armenian Armed Forces.

[Sergey-8848]

This is not a Russian MLRS "Smerch" !!!

[Nastia makarova]

in Syria, Russia has consistently used drones to correct

[Operator]

Russian UAVs are only capable of shooting enemy positions directly under them, substituting themselves under an air defense strike - the optics are worthless, obviously.

Plus, Russian UAVs in Syria are mainly used for the subsequent strike with unguided ammunition - due to the practical lack of guided and, moreover, the complete absence of optically guided ammunition by ground operators, against which any electronic warfare, "Capes" and other inventions of the twilight mind are not able to protect RF Ministry of Defense.

[Nastia makarova]

where does the enemy's optics and air defense? well, yes, in Russia everything is of poor quality

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

In other words, we have absolutely no small SAM systems with a passive optical guidance channel as a class,

Why? "Old woman" S-10 and new "Pine" and "Birdies"

[Operator]

I missed something - when they began to install wide-angle optics with automatic detection of air targets on the launchers of the Sosna and Ptitselov air defense systems, and optical homing missiles with targeting on the anti-aircraft missiles of these complexes?

And yes - when did the number of missiles on these air defense systems manage to be compared with the number of guidance channels for air targets?

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

and on anti-aircraft missiles of these complexes - optical seeker with guidance on the target image?

With such a missile, against UAVs and without pants, we will be left ... ... Even kamikaze drones are guided by the TV channel

[Operator]

An optical seeker with aiming at the target image is already available in every beefy Chinese smartphone - pick it out and put it on if you can't do anything else yourself.

It is a little expensive to exchange air defense systems, MLRS and armored vehicles for penny kamikaze drones.

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

An optical seeker with aiming at the target image is already available in every beefy Chinese smartphone - pick it out and put it on if you can't do anything else yourself.

An air defense missile system and a "beefy smartphone" operate in slightly different conditions, and what needs to be installed on the missile should be several orders of magnitude more reliable and effective in terms of detecting and identifying an object, especially in jamming conditions, so here by

Quote: Operator

It is a little expensive to exchange air defense systems, MLRS and armored vehicles for penny kamikaze drones.

Complex work is required to destroy kamikaze drones. Starting with the organization of normal engineering and chemical support, continuing the organization of the air defense and electronic warfare systems, and of course the speed of maneuvering firepower on the battlefield

[Operator]

To combat such shit as reconnaissance UAVs and kamikaze drones, first of all, simple but modern solutions are required, and not "vanity under the client" in the form of +100500 types of support ala WWII.

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

and not "vanity under the client" in the form of +100500 types of collateral ala WWII.

You either do not know what you are talking about, or just a perverted understanding of something like normal combat support. If the Armenians had "hurried" earlier with camouflage, use engineering traps and timely aerosol smoke, and fewer coffins would have to be sent to Armenia. And this is the first thing that had to be applied at the very beginning of hostilities, and only then deal with the "shit" ... Something like this

[Operator]

What is called "make me beautiful": put the Armenians of all Armenians under arms, they make one big concreted Maginot line from Karabakh, smothering the sky with smoke for a year in advance, etc. etc. for the n-th amount of tens of billions of dollars - then all of Armenia, together with the diaspora, will fly into the pipe without pants.

It's not for millions of dollars for you to rivet small air defense systems, KAZ, reconnaissance UAVs and kamikaze drones - everyone should understand

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

What is called "make me beautiful"

It's called "fighting for survival"

Quote: Operator

put the Armenians of all Armenians under arms, make one big concreted Maginot line from Karabakh, smoke the whole sky with smoke for a year in advance, etc. etc. for the n-th amount of tens of billions of dollars - then all of Armenia, together with the diaspora, will fly into the pipe without pants.

You say nonsense from not knowing the essence of the issue and with your approach to business it is not that without pants, without panties you will remain.
Even if you disassemble the proposed video of the destruction of "Tornadoes", well, they worked, it is clear immediately that after that their position was determined by the "toolmakers", wait for the guests, well, immediately cover yourself with an aerosol, after the volley and leave the firing position. No, they are generally deprived of a sense of self-preservation, and most likely they are not trained to act like this, so they got

[Operator]

If the enemy has a reconnaissance UAV and kamikaze drones, leaving the position and aerosol will not help: in the first case, they will strike on the march, in the second, they use a planning FAB weighing half a ton and it will stuff the entire cloud with fragments.

A modern solution is to provide the MLRS battery with a small air defense system with an interception distance equal to the visual detection distance from the UAV, as well as installing a KAZ MLRS with a drone interception distance of 100 meters on each machine.

Then the "Smerchas" will not have to run like hares and the Azerbaijanis can be driven at a loss - an anti-aircraft missile and a KAZ counter-ammunition will be cheaper than a reconnaissance UAV and a kamikaze drone.

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

If the enemy has a reconnaissance UAV and kamikaze drones, leaving the position and aerosol will not help: in the first case, they will strike on the march, in the second, they use a planning FAB weighing half a ton and it will stuff the entire cloud with fragments.

You have a complete ignorance of the materiel. This attack UAV has a maximum payload of 250 kg.
Forgive me, but who said that the march does not need to be provided either.

Quote: Operator

as well as the installation of MLRS KAZ on each vehicle with a drone interception distance of 100 meters.

Regarding KAZ, you again have some kind of childish perception of them. And nothing, that then this technique is closer than 200 meters, when it works at 100 meters in a radius around the machine, it will not be possible to approach, otherwise you will be threatened with death from flying fragments of a combat element. How do you like this prospect? KAZ must be used very wisely and it is not suitable everywhere. If KAZs are used, then with the removal of the launchers of combat elements along the perimeter of the firing positions, leaving the inner perimeter clean.

Quote: Operator

The modern solution is to give the MLRS battery a small air defense missile system with an interception distance equal to the distance of visual detection from the UAV,

A possible solution, but with one but ... They will be part of the general air defense system, since the attack UAVs are also equipped with locators, which allows them to use weapons outside the line-of-sight distance.
It makes sense to develop a similar machine based on BMPT

[Operator]

As the carrier of the gliding half-ton FAB, I meant a manned aircraft (with a bomb dropping on pitch-up 100 km from a ground target).

Why should we approach the MLRS at a firing position closer than 200 meters? By the way - a lightly armored cabin will not hurt the car.

Firstly, UAVs with a radar on board will automatically switch to the category of medium, expensive and rare drones, and secondly, the trick of "optical" UAVs and kamikaze drones is that they are aimed at a target by a person against whom no electronic warfare and camouflage work. thirdly, the "radar" UAV itself will become an excellent target, since it glows in the radio range like a Christmas tree.

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

Why should we approach the MLRS at a firing position closer than 200 meters?

But how to say ... sometimes there is such an urgent need, in particular, to recharge.

[Operator]

As part of many MLRS complexes, in addition to combat vehicles, there are transport-loading vehicles - the reloading time is multiply reduced, for the future, the operation of the KAZ is ensured during the entire time the MLRS is in a firing position (as well as on the march).

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

for the future, the operation of the KAZ is ensured during the entire time the MLRS is in the firing position (as well as on the march).

"Prospect" is a good thing, one thing is bad, people are dying here and now, and they are being shot like on a training ground. Therefore, it is necessary, here and now, to try to do something, and try to reasonably implement the "perspective"

Quote: Operator

As part of many MLRS complexes, in addition to combat vehicles, there are transport-loading vehicles - the reload time is multiply reduced

But they are easily struck by small arms and the consequences of this are very sad, and even with the combat elements of the KAZ these machines will be stitched through and through

[Operator]

You cannot sew lightly armored TZM with fragments from KAZ and BB.

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

You cannot sew lightly armored TZM with fragments from KAZ and BB.

In the meantime, TPM for MLRS "Smerch" is just such a machine

And for "Grad" this is

[Operator]

In this form, TZM are not residents in a military conflict with a technologically advanced enemy, batch loading of MLRS is required.

[svp67]

And nevertheless, this is what really is now and we must defend ourselves "here and now"

[Operator]

"Winter is gone, summer has come - thanks to the party for that" (C)

TZM-T

[svp67]

Quote: Operator

TZM-T

For "Solntsepek" and "Buratino", the number of missiles in the package is small and the range of their action does not provide otherwise, since TOSs, during operation, are in the zone of destruction even of mortars

[andrew42]

It looks like they will soon come to the conclusion that only a cheap security drone will help against cheap gunner drones. "Tanks-online" are coming.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Operator

In other words, we absolutely do not have, as a class, small air defense systems with a passive optical guidance channel, which have a UAV interception range of 15 to 25 km (in the short term) at an altitude of 8 to 12 km, as well as KAZ with UB interception at the turn of 100 meters.
As a result, assembled "from shit and sticks" Turkish UAVs and UB on the battlefield completely dominate the super-duper Russian MLRS.

I missed something, and Azerbaijan is already at war with the Russian Federation?
What does the absence of normal air defense ("Buk" - "Tor" - "Tunguska" / "Pantsir") have to do with Russia?
And yes, UAVs "made of shit and sticks" are terrorists in Syria. And the Turks have a normal strike UAV, assembled from components around the world. I'm not talking about Israeli ones.

[Vyacheslav Borichevsky]

Yeah !. What else could you expect from the Armenians! Judging by the footprints on the ground, they didn't even change their position! It is not necessary to calculate and send the drone to the place from where they shoot, especially if they hit from one place !. It seems that the Armenians have a brain that does not work, knowing about the enemy's UAV !.

[Old26]

Quote: maktub

Armenia does not protect its skies at all, although it has quite modern air defense systems and fighters.

They have no "Tochki-U", and no S-300. However, these weapons systems were also destroyed. Armenia, actually hiding behind Karabakh, is waging a war with Azerbaijan by the NKR defense army ...

[Lexus]

Fighting is not about getting rich on housing and communal services and the roads in Moscow with the goal of moving to America.

[svoit]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

so that there are no territorial disputes.

Armenia did not have any disputes with Azerbaijan anyway, they did not recognize and annex the NKR. The road to NATO is long open

[petrakimov]

Yes, a difficult case ... I just expressed my opinion on the basis of how I perceived what I saw and threw minuses. There is no explanation. And I didn’t need your answers to my comment. I just tried to explain why I decided so. In response, the global conspiracy and Russian weapons are a miracle of miracles ... Is it not destiny to simply disassemble the actions of the operators of shock and reconnaissance drones? Here and the article was just about the details of the destruction of MLRS. Perhaps such an analysis could prompt something for our soldiers both to protect their own and to destroy other people's equipment. In low-intensity conflicts, actions aimed at destroying precisely the equipment and a sparing attitude towards the soldiers of the foreign side, the destruction precisely for actions directed against us would help to quickly reduce hostilities to a minimum. Consider this a message for a discussion of UAV tactics, not my opinion. Bringing your anger to me will not accomplish anything in terms of learning.

[Operator]

Quote: Alexey RA

The Turks have a normal strike UAV ... I'm not talking about Israeli ones

Not only you, but everyone is not talking about normal Russian UAVs

[Vlad Pervovich]

I wonder what ...?

[zxc15682]

This is already a strategic facility with a hospital capacity. Some kind of crap bombed it all and wrote it down.

[Roman1970_1]

Azerbadzhan video impresses more

[iouris]

It's time to show victory. And then an earthquake in Turkey.

[karpusha]

A couple of weeks ago, local sofa experts talked about how to mask equipment from drones. Did the disguise help a lot? It is necessary not to invent some ancient methods, but to produce modern weapons. Now we see the war of the army of the 21st century against the army of the end of the 20th century. And Russian generals are dreaming of tank wedges and massive artillery pieces. strikes instead of saturating the army with modern weapons. Every day they trumpet us about Russian weapons that have no analogues in the world, but they are not in service either.

[Old tanker]

Since the Armenians "camouflaged" their equipment, it has nothing to do with camouflage.

[karpusha]

For camouflage in modern conditions, special materials are needed that do not transmit heat and visually merge with the terrain. A whole range of works. Are there many such materials in the troops?
Russia's lagging behind in optics and electronics is starting to become critical. Not to mention polymer and composite materials.
But the Aligarhs have the longest yachts in the world. And the Gazprom tower is high.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: AlexeyEg

You are kind of cruel. What will you do when a boxer beats a child in front of your eyes? And what is fair? Try to listen to a very good analyst who knows more about this. I'm on Satan's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpRP4EUSCcM

E. Satanovsky is actually a steelmaker by profession and a Kabbalist in combination, I can't imagine how this is combined. As a result of this mix, for some reason, it turns out like an analyst, and someone decided that he was good) Simply actively promoted by his relative (they would have heard how Soloviev praised his relative, already filled with trills) pretentious, self-righteous, belligerent saucer and Soloviev's singing along. The first time I saw him, I was perplexed.
Armageddonych was the type of a middle-aged, untidy-looking and narrow-minded labor teacher for elementary grades in a provincial school who had faded from the last lesson with obvious speech defects and for some reason loudly screaming under the affectionate nods of Solovyov: , Russia should do this and that. I just couldn't understand what Russia owes him and why he shouldn't do it himself))

[Konnick]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Pashinyan and the command of the Armenian armed forces had a lot of time and information to protect both Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia from the threat from the air, but instead of this, on the contrary, they expose UAVs and tanks and artillery and even tactical missile systems under the attacks, while air defense calculations and fighter aircraft in the form of quite modern Su-30 is incomprehensible. But they send the Su-25 to the attack, knowing that a powerful Azerbaijani air defense system operates in these regions and the Su-25 simply has no chance of surviving.

Urgently to Karabakh, there are just not enough thinking commanders. And then you understand what they allow themselves.

[Old tanker]

War does not teach Armenians anything! In a bare field, a single installation fires. And this with the complete dominance of the enemy in the air!