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Not "Bayraktar" alone: ​​Turkey presented the concept of a marine drone

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Not "Bayraktar" alone: ​​Turkey presented the concept of a marine drone

Turkey is actively developing drones. To the unmanned aerial vehicles "Bayraktar" already familiar from participation in hostilities in Syria, Libya and in Nagorno-Karabakh, a marine drone may soon be added. According to the press service of the Turkish company Ares Shipyard Inc., on October 28 this year, the ULAQ marine strike drone project was presented in Ankara.


The latest marine surface attack drone ULAQ is being developed by the Turkish shipbuilding company Ares Shipyard Inc. together with Meteksan Defense. As the general director of METEKSAN Defense Selcuk Kerem Alparslan said at the presentation of the project, the first prototype of the drone will be ready in December this year.

According to the statement, ULAQ is the first naval attack drone built in Turkey. It is capable of speeds up to 65 km / h, range - 400 km, weight - 2 tons. ULAQ is equipped with an optoelectronic station and a radar station for target detection and tracking. A night vision system is installed, communication is carried out using secure channels.


In addition, it is reported that the drone is armed with four guided missiles to engage naval targets and two anti-aircraft production Roketsan. The armament of an unmanned boat may vary depending on the tasks being solved.

As the developers explained, the unmanned boat can be controlled from any platform, from ships to land mobile platforms.
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  1. Insurgent
    Insurgent 29 October 2020 09: 45
    0
    Not "Bayraktar" alone: ​​Turkey presented the concept of a marine drone

    On the face of the desire to implement the concept expressed in the soundtrack to the film "Adventures of Electronics" - "Robots work, not humans"...
    Moreover, in all areas.

    Let's see where this leads ...

    1. Alien From
      Alien From 29 October 2020 09: 52
      +9
      Will lead to finding the button, Uri)))))
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 29 October 2020 09: 53
        -2
        Quote: Alien From
        Will lead to finding the button, Uri)))))

        Yes, "button", "antidote" - you have to look yes
        1. venik
          venik 29 October 2020 10: 06
          -7
          Quote: Insurgent
          Yes, "button", "antidote" - you have to look

          ========
          And they find it ... electronic warfare systems!
          1. krot
            krot 29 October 2020 16: 57
            -2
            And the attack drone, marine with an autonomy of 1000 miles, has an interesting niche.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 29 October 2020 19: 37
              -3
              2 anti-aircraft missiles means that three kamikaze UAVs will destroy it as a guarantee. And three such kamikazes are ten (if not more) times cheaper than such a boat.
        2. nnm
          nnm 29 October 2020 10: 51
          0
          And don't get your hopes up, little people! It won't help you - all buttons and all electronic warfare will be ours!

        3. antivirus
          antivirus 29 October 2020 11: 06
          -1
          it is - like Gromyko, the passage through the Bosphorus is free for the Black Sea Fleet under any conditions -
          - IT IS POSSIBLE, IF NECESSARY, TO MAKE A STRAIGHT FROM THE BLACK SEA TO ANTALYA (TOURISTS SHOULD BE BURNING) THROUGH ISTANBUL DISTRICT.
          IN MOSCOW I got on the boat and left at the berth in Antalya.
          ERDOGAN KNOWS THIS.

          Moscow is a port of 5 seas.
    2. Cananecat
      Cananecat 29 October 2020 10: 25
      -6
      We have already demonstrated to the Turks the concept of drones in a naval battle ... they think for a long time. ))
  2. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 29 October 2020 09: 51
    +1
    A remote launcher equipped with surveillance equipment is quite logical.
    I do not understand why something like this, only land, and even if not with missiles, but with a machine gun, for example, is not stuck with the entire front line somewhere near Gorlovka.
    IMHO, compared to a boat, a flying drone is less dependent, for example, on waves, etc. factors. And the view from above is obviously better.
    1. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 29 October 2020 10: 00
      +7
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      I do not understand why something like this, only land, and even if not with missiles, but with a machine gun, for example, is not stuck with the entire front line somewhere near Gorlovka.


      Come back to reality ...
    2. novel66
      novel66 29 October 2020 10: 21
      0
      air control channels are larger, more difficult to control
  3. vVvAD
    vVvAD 29 October 2020 09: 58
    +3
    An unmanned vessel for piracy in closed adjacent waters: it alone will not swim to the ships - there will not be enough detection distance, fire and movement - only in a flock along the outer control center or hunting defenseless ships.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 29 October 2020 10: 11
      -2
      Exactly, only drive fishermen.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 29 October 2020 10: 28
      +3
      Quote: vVvAD
      only in a flock on an external control center or hunting defenseless ships.

      Economically unprofitable. The displacement of this soap dish is 2 tons. And shove rockets on it, and even in the amount of 4 + 2 .... If only the level of ATGM. And what flock of these wunderwafels would be required to stutter some kind of ship in 5-10 thousand displacement? No matter how hundreds of them will have to be sent. I think this operation will be an order of magnitude, if not two more expensive than launching some kind of exoset or harpoon.
      1. vVvAD
        vVvAD 29 October 2020 11: 00
        +3
        Ships are different. They can, for example, be used in contested waters to drive away, arrest or piracy against Greek fishing vessels and protect their own, as well as drilling rigs. And in this case, it is not at all necessary to heat.
        Believe me, the Turks perfectly understand what they want, and they will not throw money down the drain.
        You cannot attach a frigate to each trawler (your own or Greek), but the patrolling BECs are cheap and cheerful.
      2. Ka-52
        Ka-52 29 October 2020 11: 04
        -1
        I think this operation will be an order of magnitude, if not two more expensive than launching some kind of exoset or harpoon.

        one exoset or a harpoon will also do nothing for "a vessel of 5-10 thous. displacement". To guarantee the defeat of a modern EV (and even more so a cruiser), you will need to send a packet of 4 or even 5 anti-ship missiles.
        By the way, Van Riper would not agree with you about "punching" lol
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 29 October 2020 11: 07
          0
          Quote: Ka-52
          For guaranteed defeat of modern EV

          A destroyer, not even a modern one, is still a ship. yes But the ship may be enough. yes
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 29 October 2020 11: 14
            0
            But the ship may be enough. yes

            well, if you mean such a ship

            then yes, I agree laughing
            Is a destroyer not a vessel from the point of view of a watercraft? )
            1. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 29 October 2020 22: 55
              +1
              Quote: Ka-52
              Is a destroyer not a vessel from the point of view of a watercraft? )

              A ship, of course a ship. And the BTR-80, from the point of view of the vehicle, is a kind of minivan. yes
        2. paul3390
          paul3390 30 October 2020 15: 04
          +1
          Well - Sheffield at one time and one Exocet was enough .. I don't think that other ships are very tenacious ..
  4. Ka-52
    Ka-52 29 October 2020 10: 00
    +4
    Unmanned vehicles are being developed by all and sundry. Rather, everyone who has at least a couple of designers for this, able to distinguish the keel from the sprat. Just the editorial board of VO, given the burning interest of the public in Turkish technology, issues an order.
    1. sg7s
      sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 08
      0
      Bayraktar with 912 rotax and Canadian avionics ... (glider-pollinators, fiery hello ...). "Fil go to aus nii ...." But - the means of air defense must have (not only electronic warfare). What do we have ? shell?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 29 October 2020 10: 13
        +5
        Orion is also with Rotax. And the optics there are very interesting from NPK SPP - which works as a gasket for the purchase of Argos multi-mode station from DS Optronics. wink
        1. sg7s
          sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 19
          -2
          Good capacity, uncomplicated .... I talked with Austrians, they wanted to localize them in Kazan, I even talked with Minikhanov's help, Moscow hacked to death .... (how did these non-humans get the Maskov ...)
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 29 October 2020 10: 33
            +3
            Well, only if for a pool of orders - a batch of UAVs, small aircraft. In general, Rotax cannot be closed with sanctions. There are many thousands of them on the market. They are purchased by various companies - which build private jets. You can even buy them on alik laughing .
            1. sg7s
              sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 38
              -4
              How many pollinators? In Volgograd, they got them with orders ... but in the masque they know better ... Therefore, I tied up with Russian realities, only the west ...
        2. sg7s
          sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 29
          -2
          Vooot ... "Optics", finally, someone voiced ... What are ours, shouted - ahead of the planet ... or not, or secret ...? Who is in the courses?
      2. Ka-52
        Ka-52 29 October 2020 10: 16
        +4
        But - air defense means must be available (not only electronic warfare). What do we have ? shell?

        echeloned air defense with the ability to cover most of the heights, plus interaction with electronic warfare and its own aviation. Then the work of unmanned aircraft will be significantly hampered. Serious complexes (with broad capabilities) are being built seriously and having lost several complexes the enemy will no longer hang so brazenly over the positions.
        1. sg7s
          sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 21
          0
          In short, nothing ... Maybe perspective in lasers, no, what do you think?
          1. Ka-52
            Ka-52 29 October 2020 10: 28
            +2
            In short, nothing ... Maybe perspective in lasers, no, what do you think?

            if we talk about the battlefield in the combined-arms sense, then it will not be very easy for a laser to work there. Because for long distances, the laws of physics will interfere with him, and at close ones, he himself can become an easy target. And so this is the task just for him - to hit small-sized ammunition and drones with minimal cost (meaning the cost of the shot itself).
            1. sg7s
              sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 45
              +1
              Alarming somehow ... Everything changes in the head, the whole strategy, all the ideas about the battlefield, all the skills ... in the trash can?
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 29 October 2020 10: 34
        0
        Quote: sg7s
        Bayraktar with 912 rotax and Canadian avionics ... (glider-pollinators, fiery hello ...). "Fil go to aus nii ...." But - the means of air defense must have (not only electronic warfare). What do we have ? shell?

        Yes, there is only a Turkish corps along the way. yes The production of new devices is highly dependent on the whims of the component suppliers.

        I wonder what proportion of imports will be in these marine drones
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 29 October 2020 10: 08
      +1
      Quote: Ka-52
      The editorial board of VO, given the burning interest of the public in Turkish technology, issues an order


      "Zakazuha"? Perhaps ... But this does not mean that you need to focus only on Turkish developments.

      Of particular interest is, for example, the development of Iran, which in the development and production of UAVs entered the ten most advanced countries in the world.

  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 October 2020 10: 03
    +3
    New, and especially if it is of high quality is always good. But judging by the number of articles about Turkey, its Armed Forces and advanced technologies, it seems that soon the media did not proclaim the Turkish army the strongest in the world. But Turkey is not a pioneer in this direction, but the local success of its UAVs in Libya and Karabakh, where problems with air defense do not give reason to extol it almost daily.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 29 October 2020 11: 30
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But Turkey is not a pioneer in this direction, but the local success of its UAVs in Libya and Karabakh, where problems with air defense do not give reason to extol it almost daily.

      Well, why? The Turks are crazy about our S-400s, and in response we are delighted with their Bayraktars. Mutual benefit.
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 October 2020 10: 06
    -4
    For regional conflicts, all these drones are suitable, but in a serious batch, the one who has more vigorous loaves and equipment with a minimum amount of electronics will win. Just imagine cellular communication is covered in the city, the collapse is complete, the city will rise, I don't want to take it.
    1. sg7s
      sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 26
      0
      Yes, the whole trick is that no one wants to measure up with vigorous loaves and will not, but I am like a lump. squads with combat experience are very worried about these buzzers ... Well, in the Smolensk forests, not very much (needles, they will save them), but outside?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 29 October 2020 10: 34
        +1
        According to our defense doctrine, even if we are attacked with conventional weapons and we lose, we will shandarah with all the "proletarian" hatred. Why do we need peace, without Russia. The colonel sitting at the SNF console behind a ruble hedgehog abroad has no accounts and only in Voronezh.
        1. sg7s
          sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 41
          0
          Yes, Christmas trees, sticks, how can we just defend ourselves? Digging the syncs? Option. but, it's dreary ... Pkm and optics with plastids are a good thing, but how Armenians are from above ... It's not clear ...
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 29 October 2020 10: 51
            +2
            Russia out of Armenia! Here is the result. In Syria, the Turks with the UAV were stopped, but all the Syrian Wasps were burned or almost all of them. And that was six months ago, there was a time, Soros will help them. We will make an echeloned air defense, we will still live! hi
            1. sg7s
              sg7s 29 October 2020 10: 52
              -2
              Words ... About ar, I agree with you ... What about the UAV?
  7. donavi49
    donavi49 29 October 2020 10: 25
    +4
    In general, it is surprising that a Mask is sculpted from Seljuk (also ignoring all other space systems that are actively created by other private owners and not only).

    This is a small technological enterprise with successful products. Honestly, if the Rotenbergs or Sechin, taking advantage of their proximity to the authorities, would not promote another megaproject for the state account with the expected final, but some kind of technological and popular enterprise, then I would be glad.


    However, STM is also engaged in drones - these work with swarms and patrolling ammunition of a compact (infantry-carried) type. They also brought their swarms to Aliyev by the way.



    Well, the giant TAI is the Turkish version of the UAC.


    There are also many non-core businesses or new private traders.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 29 October 2020 10: 34
      -11 qualifying.
      You post these pictures in every topic. I certainly understand that you love Turks very much, but maybe you shouldn't be so fired? It looks pathetic. I licked everything to them already.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 29 October 2020 10: 36
        +5
        In the sense of? A photo with Kangu in Karabakh only appeared last night. laughing

        Well, in general, you also need to read the text between the pictures wink ... I just pointed out that it is wrong to make Seljuk the messiah in the UAV world (even Turkey). The competition is pretty strong there. And there are other private traders with their own concepts + corporation.
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 29 October 2020 10: 43
        -6
        It seems that local fetishists, along with the USSR and China, have another object of deification - Turkey.
      3. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 29 October 2020 11: 41
        +1
        And whom to discuss? New Zealand (By the way, they launched a rocket into space from there today)? Today on VO 5 news about Turkey or Turkish weapons out of 10 in total.
    2. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 29 October 2020 11: 49
      0
      It's just that Bayraktars are heard, the rest are not particularly. But yes, Baikar is far from the only and not the largest manufacturer. The author of the video counted 36 UAVs.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 October 2020 10: 37
    0
    I wonder what production facilities for the production of Orions. Maybe it's time to move to work in three shifts, like at Almaz Antey and at new sites?
  9. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 29 October 2020 10: 40
    -1
    "In addition, it is reported that the drone is armed with four guided missiles to engage naval targets and two anti-aircraft production Roketsan."

    And vice versa in the cartoon. Two missiles against sea targets, 4 - MANPADS
  10. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 29 October 2020 10: 49
    0
    Direction finding the control centers of the BP and send there the duty destruction means.
    PSU operators will not be happy ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 29 October 2020 12: 02
      +1
      how sad? And where? They are here now - there in an hour.




      I am already silent about serious UAVs, there from California you can control drones over Central Asia or the Crimea. And so they do. wink
      1. Whirlwind
        Whirlwind 29 October 2020 15: 03
        0
        Difficult, but possible. That's why reconnaissance and strike complexes ...
  11. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 October 2020 10: 59
    +2
    A very correct maritime system.
    When the drone control technology has been mastered, and understanding officers and operators are trained, it does not matter which drone to control - air or sea. The main thing is to understand virtual reality, digital dynamic cards.
    ----
    In Israel, such boats are in service. The first were only with machine guns. Used when patrolling the sea around Gaza and off the coast of Israel.
    But installing ATGMs or small anti-ship missiles is also the right decision.
  12. iouris
    iouris 29 October 2020 11: 18
    -1
    A "drone" for war must be fully autonomous.
    1. Ka-52
      Ka-52 29 October 2020 11: 50
      -1
      A "drone" for war must be fully autonomous.

      until it's real. Rather real, but only for a local range of tasks. For example reconnaissance patrol. If we are talking about the use of weapons, then the decision on its use is still left to the person.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 29 October 2020 12: 09
      +1
      Well, that's another 3-4-5 years. These elements are already being introduced. For example, auto-tracking. The operator hangs up the stamp - even if the signal is lost, the UAV acts on the teleautomat, and if it loses, then to the last point.

      Various interesting elements are introduced, here recently there was an article about an American portable infantry loitering ammunition for 40 minutes of flight. If a new object enters the field of destruction, in the absence of confirmation of the blow, he turns away himself and goes to the second circle of the attack. Like not to crumble the peace.

      In general, look at what computers did 5-6 years ago when neural networks were born and what they are doing now. Signatures of priority targets and search area - where the UAV itself will detect targets, classify, select according to priority and strike, this is actually tomorrow. They are working hard on this.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 29 October 2020 13: 18
    0
    I understand this is primarily a warning to the Greeks? You won't get far, the Turks do not have time to solve problems as they breed new enemies
  14. Azimuth
    Azimuth 29 October 2020 17: 49
    0
    Quote: APASUS
    I understand this is primarily a warning to the Greeks? You won't get far, the Turks do not have time to solve problems as they breed new enemies

    The Greeks will be stronger than the Armenians, the second lobby after the Jewish one after all. If only the Turks start "UAVs" with them, all deliveries of components from the EU, the States and Canada will be interrupted on the same day, the Greeks will not need to whine for a month.
    1. Kerensky
      Kerensky 29 October 2020 18: 09
      -1
      on the same day, all deliveries of components from the EU, States and Canada will be interrupted,

      And how many complete sets are in the warehouses now?
    2. no one
      no one 30 October 2020 02: 07
      0
      Optics are already being mastered by Aselsanovskaya, which is on the anks, the motor is also already going to put their own local, which is on the aksungur. Yes, and stocks in warehouses are sure
  15. Azimuth
    Azimuth 29 October 2020 19: 39
    -1
    Quote: Kerensky
    on the same day, all deliveries of components from the EU, States and Canada will be interrupted,

    And how many complete sets are in the warehouses now?

    I called Baikar Makin, then the General Staff of Turkey ... as I introduce myself from Kerensky, they say, he asked to clarify ... so they immediately take out the toilet door.
    Can Erdogan call and ask? But it’s not my rank, don’t take it for insolence, but you’ll type it yourself.