NASA announced the date of the first regular manned flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft to the ISS

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NASA announced the date of the first regular manned flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft to the ISS

NASA has decided on the date of the first regular manned flight of SpaceX's newest American spacecraft, Crew Dragon, to the MSC. According to the website of the US National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the first flight is scheduled for November 14 this year.

NASA and SpaceX plan to launch a rotational mission to the ISS on November 14 at 19:49 US East Coast time (November 15 at 02:49 Moscow time) as part of the agency's commercial manned flight program

- said in a statement.



The crew of Crew Dragon will include 4 people: NASA astronauts Michael Hopkins, Victor Glover and Shannon Walker, as well as Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency JAXA astronaut Soichi Noguchi. Upon arrival at the ISS, they will join the station's crew, which includes Russian cosmonauts Sergei Ryzhikov and Sergei Kud-Sverchkov and NASA astronaut Kathleen Rubins.

The timing of the stay of the American spacecraft near the ISS has not been announced.

Recall that Crew Dragon made its first successful flight in automatic mode in March 2019. On May 30, 2020, the spacecraft sailed to the ISS in manned mode with two NASA astronauts on board after a nine-year hiatus due to the closure of the shuttle program. This was the last major test of the ship prior to certification. Once certified, Crew Dragon will begin regular commercial manned flights to the ISS.
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  1. +2
    28 October 2020 11: 44
    I hope ours don't fly on it?
    1. +6
      28 October 2020 11: 51
      They will fly, but on the next flights
      The first flight of the Russian cosmonaut to the International Space Station (ISS) on the American spacecraft Crew Dragon is scheduled for mid-September 2021, Anatoly Zak, an expert in the field of Soviet and Russian astronautics, said on Twitter.
      1. +2
        28 October 2020 11: 56
        Well, by that time, maybe some other sanctions will be introduced.
        Let them fly on their own dragons, and let ours fly on their own.
        1. +20
          28 October 2020 12: 32
          What are you speaking about? Rosraspilkosmos will soon finally turn into a circle of public speaking, drawing and applied modeling. He will eat up the Soviet, and you can sing the funeral service.
          1. -8
            28 October 2020 12: 42
            Saw cut but the nuclear tug is collected
            1. +16
              28 October 2020 12: 49
              Quote: Alexey Polyutkin
              Saw cut but the nuclear tug is collected

              When they assemble, launch, then we will talk. In the meantime, there are too many projects and too few real cases. Not only in sawmill space.
              1. -6
                28 October 2020 12: 56
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                When they assemble, launch, then we will talk.

                And when they really assemble and launch you again troll like: - "To do and run a little, that's when they fly to the moon then we'll talk", but there will be no one to talk to, you will again change into a new critical way because trolling is not a bag to move.
                1. +4
                  29 October 2020 12: 31
                  Tell me, what has roscosmos done over the past 10 years? Angara does not fly, Eagle aka Federation is at the stage of a cardboard layout, Vostochny does not function.
                  1. -1
                    30 October 2020 09: 45
                    - Putting living people into orbit and lowering them is one of the most important achievements working for everyone on the ISS for 9 years (and now NASA has finally created something of its own, and that is still damp and little-tested).
                    - Created a new rocket carrier based on its technologies and components and components independent of foreigners. It is new and with today's new technologies.
                    - Eagle (federation) is also a new manned ship that will update everything and it is slowly, but confidently being created and there is no need to rush, because there must be a reliable product with maximum efficiency and convenience where everything must be foreseen and worked out even at the development and design stage. If we are 1-2 years behind in this, then this is not a defeat, but painstaking and confident work. We can launch people into space even without Eagle on reliable Soyuz, and soon another ship will appear, but there is no need to rush here (this is not critical for us).
                    - East is being built like everything else. Naturally, it does not function yet, but it will not last forever and in 1-3 years everything will work and you know about it, but for some reason you ask a stupid question.
                    - A very promising and effective nuclear tug has already begun to be assembled in metal, and this is another unique and breakthrough direction. NASA does not have such an analogue yet, although there were similar surveys.
                    And yes everywhere there are thieves, schemers and businessmen (they have always been and will be in the whole world), but they still will not interfere with the completion of what is needed. After all, a new carrier rocket, a manned spacecraft and a launch pad are being created (by the way, they began to restore the sea launch), so that it would be possible to fly into space with great potential and efficiency. And not only near space, but also the Moon and Mars to master on the new technology, because the old one does not pull. But this requires time and resources, which we solve alone from the whole world.
                    Well, do not forget that with the money allocated for space, we are doing worse than the USA, Europe, China or India, which also affects the timing of the implementation of our projects, as well as all sorts of sanctions and the need to raise a military officer for the same budget money. If it were not for the military commissar - but into space, then everything would have been implemented long ago. Space is very expensive.
                    Therefore, not everything is as bad as it seems, they just got used to the fact that if ours flew somewhere, then it is considered commonplace and so it should be, and when a foreign one flies, then immediately oh-oh-oh-oh they fly, and we are all marking time ... Someone earlier, someone later masters, but in general there is parity.
                    And what about Armata at one time, PACAF also said that these are pictures and there is nothing in the metal, but then it turned out that there is and is already ready (albeit with a delay) for mass production.
                    Everything will be fine with us.
              2. +7
                28 October 2020 13: 02
                Alexey hi
                Until now, nothing worthwhile has been created and will not be created. This is the whole point of "projects".
                1. +6
                  28 October 2020 13: 08
                  Alexey hi
                  Quote: lexus
                  Until now, nothing worthwhile has been created and will not be created. This is the whole point of "projects".

                  The bottom line is that today's "raw material oligarchy" does not need cosmonautics, from the word at all, but the "electorate" requires it to increase "spirituality."
                  1. +2
                    28 October 2020 13: 29
                    A screponaut, accustomed to crawling at the owner's feet, will no longer rise.
                2. +3
                  28 October 2020 14: 29
                  Quote: lexus
                  did not create and will not create

                  Don't measure yourself.
                3. -5
                  28 October 2020 18: 38
                  Quote: lexus
                  Alexey hi
                  Until now, nothing worthwhile has been created and will not be created. This is the whole point of "projects".


                  Of course, lol "did not create". The pot on the head makes it difficult to see, right? laughing
                4. 0
                  28 October 2020 22: 25
                  Quote: lexus
                  Alexey hi
                  Until now, nothing worthwhile has been created and will not be created. This is the whole point of "projects".

                  and how long will the "advanced" fly to the ISS in time?
              3. +1
                28 October 2020 13: 06
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                When they assemble, launch, then we will talk

                No-no, dear. Leave these "When ... then we'll talk" tricks for Musk, they are prohibited in Russia.
            2. -2
              28 October 2020 13: 12
              Yes, there and the Eagle have already been assembled. Only a tug and not enough to tow it into space.
              1. -3
                28 October 2020 18: 39
                Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
                Yes, there and the Eagle have already been assembled. Only a tug and not enough to tow it into space.


                The launch of the PTK NP "Oryol" is scheduled for 2023.
          2. 0
            28 October 2020 12: 59
            Wait and see.
          3. +1
            28 October 2020 13: 03
            What are you speaking about? Rosraspilkosmos will soon finally turn into a circle of public speaking, drawing and applied modeling. He will eat up the Soviet, and you can sing the funeral service.


            Yeah. Will you get tired of waiting
            1. +5
              28 October 2020 13: 09
              Show successfully working new items. There are none! It means ALREADY "arrived".
              1. +1
                28 October 2020 13: 21
                Show successfully working new items. There are none! It means ALREADY "arrived".

                We are waiting for the Eastern end of 23 years.
              2. -1
                28 October 2020 15: 26
                October 25, 2020:
                Booster rocket:
                Soyuz-2.1b is a three-stage medium-class launch vehicle for launching spacecraft, including manned spacecraft of the Soyuz series. It is one of the modifications of the Soyuz-2 launch vehicle family, developed by modernizing the Soyuz-U launch vehicle.

                Payload:
                GLONASS-K # 15L is the third satellite of the K series, the newest version in the navigation constellation. Although the two previous GLONASS-K launched in 2011 and 2015, there was a five-year hiatus due to the lack of components for next-generation spacecraft, such as specialized aerospace-grade electronic components. The deficit stemmed from Western sanctions that banned the supply of dual-use avionics to Russia after the annexation of Crimea to Russia. In response, the Russian government announced an export substitution program aimed at supplying locally produced electronics.
                Used materials from the site https://aftershock.news (https://aftershock.news/?q=node/915951)
                1. +12
                  28 October 2020 15: 31
                  Is Soyuz a new launch vehicle? In general, perhaps already fool ?
                  1. +3
                    28 October 2020 15: 36
                    GLONASS-K - no? And the Soyuz-2.1b is not quite that rocket! So I don’t want to argue with you, I also thought as a child that now we will walk on Mars!
                  2. 0
                    28 October 2020 19: 05
                    Quote: lexus
                    Is Soyuz a new launch vehicle? In general, perhaps already fool ?


                    The modern Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle was built in 2006.
                2. +1
                  28 October 2020 19: 04
                  Quote: vostok68
                  followed by a break of five years due to the lack of components for new generation spacecraft,


                  Some kind of garbage. Electronic components were purchased for Glonass-K back in the XNUMXs. The interruption in the launches of K-series spacecraft was due to several reasons:

                  1. The platform was being finalized based on the results of orbital tests of two spacecraft. At this time, a stock of several spacecraft of the previous generation was created, but with new expanded functionality.

                  2. GLONASS spacecraft are launched according to the actual state of the satellites in the constellation. Those. as soon as there are prerequisites for the failure of the spacecraft in the system, the device flies to replace it.

                  No one is to blame that the Glonass-M spacecraft turned out to be very tenacious and are already working out their second warranty period. laughing And in total in the "K" series - eight more spacecraft will be launched.
              3. 0
                28 October 2020 21: 28
                Quote: lexus
                Show successfully working new items. There are none! It means ALREADY "arrived".


                How can I show you if you can't see behind the pan. laughing

                Basically, since you don't see the photo posted here, I'll give you a video. lol

                Here, over the past two years:

                1. New commercial platform for remote sensing satellites.



                2. A new large astrophysical observatory operating beyond the orbit of the moon.



                3. New maneuvering satellites, inspectors, terrifying US Space Command.



                4. New use of the proven Soyuz-2 rocket with the Fregat upper stage for commercial launches of large clusters of foreign LEO satellites using Russian plasma engines.



                5. New domestic communication satellites, launched by a pair with excess mass into geostationary orbit, using plasma propulsion engines.



                6. A new high-speed method of delivering astronauts to the ISS in 3 hours 3 minutes, which allows the crew to adapt in zero gravity in large volumes of the orbital station.



                And this is just the tip of the iceberg. And how many interesting new products are still being prepared for launch in the near future. laughing
          4. +4
            28 October 2020 20: 19
            Quote: lexus
            What are you speaking about? Rosraspilkosmos will soon finally turn into a circle of public speaking, drawing and applied modeling. He will eat up the Soviet, and you can sing the funeral service.

            As Rogozin (Cosmonautics Boh) says - What do you want like in Ukraine? All those who criticize Roskosmos are bulked up and Soros people with beloletochniki.
            1. 0
              28 October 2020 21: 39
              Quote: Civil
              All those who criticize Roskosmos are bulked up and Soros people with beloletochniki.


              Criticism should be constructive, and not sucked out of the finger from fake garbage dumps with fotoebi. Personally, I'm always ready to answer for my words here, and you?
    2. -9
      28 October 2020 11: 54
      A Japanese, a general-purpose astronaut and three Americans. Ours are not there. But there is no order with the blacks! Is there a black man in the carriage? Or is their lot just a loader in Abrams! hi We do not discount our plans on November 3, but we have a day off on November 4 and then we will look at this circus with horses.
      1. Ren
        +5
        28 October 2020 12: 32
        Quote: tralflot1832
        A Japanese, a general-purpose astronaut and three Americans. Ours are not there. But there is no order with the blacks! Is there a black man in the carriage?

        From this side, everything is smooth:
        1. Hopkins, Michael Scott - male, Euro-American.
        2. Walker, Shannon - female, Euro-American.
        3. Glover, Victor Jerome - Male, African American.
        4. Noguchi, Soichi - male, Asian-Japanese.
        So not only the loaders in Abrams. wink
        Only the gender of the crew members is not clear (and there are 54 of them in the USA according to the Facebook version).
        So from this side, NASA may not have everything tolerant.
        1. +1
          28 October 2020 13: 12
          So the Negro is all the same in the crew! About the Japanese, I said that he is of a wide profile, he is the most experienced of them, as they explained to me in May, he flew in shuttles, flew on Sozakh, flew to the ISS, wait for a Dragon to fly, a multi-station operator is obtained.
          1. +2
            29 October 2020 00: 17
            Quote: tralflot1832
            So the Negro is in the carriage after all!


            Of course have! Here they are brave American guys ... hmm and a lady ... and a Japanese



            The picture is so pretentious that it seems - they fly away to Alpha Centauri. laughing
            1. +1
              29 October 2020 08: 27
              What, what, and a PR company they can do. People gossip and will think that they are the coolest in space, 100% sure the Americans believe that they were the first to go to space and Yuri Gagarin, no one will remember the first cosmonaut. an article about cosmonauts there will be ten articles about the "Ragozinsky trampoline" and the plundering on the Vostochny. You need to or at least remember the experience of the USSR on the consecration of space flights. flight on a "barrel of gunpowder". hi
        2. +1
          28 October 2020 15: 24
          Quote: Ren
          So from this side, NASA may not have everything tolerant.

          Yes, a really small ship to comply with all tolerances laughing
    3. +3
      28 October 2020 12: 30
      I hope ours don't fly on it?

      laughing laughing You reminded me of a situation when a fat, dumb woman shouts to a sipaty guy - "Stop staring at me!" And he, out of bewilderment, does not even know what to answer to such an attack.
    4. -4
      28 October 2020 12: 43
      Quote: zwlad
      I hope ours don't fly on it?

      What are yours?
      1. +2
        28 October 2020 13: 04
        Ours are citizens of the Russian Federation.
        Whose will you be?
    5. 0
      28 October 2020 13: 28
      Quote: zwlad
      I hope ours don't fly on it?

      That's right, experiments should be done on minke whales!
    6. 0
      28 October 2020 18: 36
      Quote: zwlad
      I hope ours don't fly on it?


      Ours fly in their Soyuz MS-18 in April.
  2. +2
    28 October 2020 12: 08
    Looks like their trampoline works.
    1. +2
      28 October 2020 12: 37
      You remember everything Rogozin, but in vain. It was said about the trampoline at a time when they could not fly to the ISS without us, but even a schoolboy understood that eventually our trampoline would not be the only one.
      You can cling to words forever, but you need to think with your head at the right time and understand the circumstances.
      1. -3
        28 October 2020 12: 45
        Quote: Irokez
        you need to think with your head

        How correctly did you notice this, did you try to apply it to yourself? At least sometimes.
        1. 0
          28 October 2020 12: 50
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Have you tried to apply to yourself?

          I always use it, but what you wanted to say with this question is not clear, probably did not think and asked.
          1. +1
            28 October 2020 13: 03
            Quote: Irokez
            and what you wanted to say with this question is not clear

            Compare Rogozin with those who stood at the origins of the creation of Soviet cosmonautics, maybe then it will become clear?
            1. +4
              28 October 2020 13: 07
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Compare Rogozin with those who were at the origin of the creation of Soviet cosmonautics

              Dear, you can compare forever and still you will not find the best and ideal. Also, remember the failure of H1 under the guidance of the same ideals. Everything is relative and not eternal where there are ups and downs.
            2. 0
              28 October 2020 14: 50
              Compare Rogozin with those who stood at the origins of the creation of Soviet cosmonautics, maybe then it will become clear?

              With Korolyov, Yangel, Chelomey?
              What is the point?
              Why compare the incomparable? A manager with a non-core education with general designers?
              Rogozin is just a talking head (by the way, like Musk) - this is his job. And he doesn't speak badly.
              And those who do (like Korolev) such as you did not know do not know and will not know, because it is not supposed to. laughing
              1. -3
                28 October 2020 15: 21
                Quote: bk316
                Why compare the incomparable? A manager with a non-core education with general designers?

                Why with general designers, you can compare the same with an effective manager. At the origins of cosmonautics (and not only), there was a well-known, and probably the most slandered of all the leaders of the time, Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria. Comparing these two personalities, one can surprise at the depth of the fall of our present state.
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                  1. -2
                    28 October 2020 18: 11
                    Quote: bk316
                    If you are already writing about history, please study the materiel ...

                    The space launch of the Soviet Union dates back to the creation in 1945 of an "office" headed by Lavrentiy Beria with a name that does not say much to the uninitiated: the Special Committee under the State Defense Committee of the USSR.
                    The second directorate of the Special Committee was engaged in rocketry.
                    Quote: bk316
                    In general, the space project really began to somehow develop at least somehow from the R-5 (before that there were stupid attempts to repeat the V-2)

                    We can say that P-1 is a creatively reworked and improved V-2. Starting with R-2 and R-3, practically nothing remained of the V-2. For the R-4 rocket with an air launch), I generally keep silent.
                    Quote: bk316
                    At that moment Beria had already been shot.

                    The beginning of the development of the R-5 is 1949, the year of Beria's death in 1953, so for your information. And also tell R-5, R-7 appeared from scratch? This I mean that sometimes it is useful to think before accusing someone of something.
                    Quote: bk316
                    And in general, a young man, you are now in correspondence with a man whom Chelomey rocked on handles and who drank vodka with Efremov.

                    Should I cry with happiness? And how does this relate to your panegyrics to "extremely effective manager Rogozin".
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                  1. +3
                    28 October 2020 22: 46
                    Quote: poquello
                    fuck, but all my life I thought that Tsiolkovsky

                    In proud loneliness?
                    1. 0
                      28 October 2020 22: 49
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      Quote: poquello
                      fuck, but all my life I thought that Tsiolkovsky

                      In proud loneliness?

                      with students
                      1. +3
                        28 October 2020 22: 52
                        Quote: poquello
                        with students

                        And who guided his disciples? Who was involved in the logistics of all these developments.
                      2. -1
                        28 October 2020 23: 01
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Quote: poquello
                        with students

                        And who guided his disciples? Who was involved in the logistics of all these developments.

                        calm down, tavarish, Beria put Korolev after he began to get involved in missiles
                      3. +1
                        28 October 2020 23: 05
                        Quote: poquello
                        tavarish

                        Balabols are not my comrades, but do you know why the Queen was imprisoned?
                      4. -1
                        28 October 2020 23: 25
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Quote: poquello
                        tavarish

                        Balabols are not my comrades, but do you know why the Queen was imprisoned?

                        I know what work the GIRD and RNII did until the age of 37, when Kleymenov and Langemak were shot, no need to tell tales, comrade balabol
                      5. 0
                        28 October 2020 23: 57
                        Quote: poquello
                        I know what work the GIRD and RNII did until the age of 37, when Kleymenov and Langemak were shot, no need to tell tales, comrade balabol

                        And where is Beria?
                      6. 0
                        29 October 2020 00: 19
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Quote: poquello
                        I know what work the GIRD and RNII did until the age of 37, when Kleymenov and Langemak were shot, no need to tell tales, comrade balabol

                        And where is Beria?

                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        The space launch of the Soviet Union dates back to the creation in 1945 of the "office" headed by Lavrentiy Beria

                        well, never Tsiolkovsky
                      7. 0
                        29 October 2020 00: 45
                        Quote: poquello
                        well, never Tsiolkovsky

                        I read such comments and it is not clear to me that the optimization of education or the optimization of psychiatric institutions is more to blame.
                      8. -1
                        29 October 2020 00: 49
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Quote: poquello
                        well, never Tsiolkovsky

                        I read such comments and it is not clear to me that the optimization of education or the optimization of psychiatric institutions is more to blame.

                        judging by statements like "Beria is the founder of the Soviet cosmonautics" both
              2. +2
                28 October 2020 18: 58
                Quote: bk316
                bk316

                Oh, how modern it is, remove the stupid comment, but do not forget to put a minus.
      2. +2
        28 October 2020 13: 05
        You remember everything Rogozin, but in vain. It was said about the trampoline at a time when they could not fly to the ISS without us, but even a schoolboy understood that eventually our trampoline would not be the only one.


        Another 5 years will cling.
        1. +2
          28 October 2020 13: 26
          Quote: Interlocutor
          Another 5 years will cling.

          They will aim until we see real systemic successes in Roscosmos.
          "It’s a pity only - to live in this wonderful time
          You won't have to - neither me, nor you. "
      3. +2
        28 October 2020 13: 33
        Quote: Irokez
        You remember everything Rogozin,

        I remember why in vain?
        He didn't say that?
        Only Americans began to think with their heads and prepare a new "trampoline" instead of the one that ended.
        And we rested on our laurels and told fairy tales.
        And, well, yes, they began to build a cosmolrome.
        They built and built, but they never built, already in the third circle the builders were changed.
        You can also remember how our promising "trampoline" changed its names during this time. But it also does not exist, under any name.
        1. +1
          28 October 2020 13: 38
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          Only Americans began to think with their heads and prepare a new "trampoline"

          And they never stopped thinking and for 9 years they created something normal to replace dead-end developments.
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          And, well, yes, they began to build a cosmolrome.

          Well, at least it came to your head from many things.
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          Lope of names, our promising "trampoline" has changed during this time. But it also does not exist, under any name.

          Does the hangara look like nothing?
      4. +3
        28 October 2020 13: 33
        Quote: Irokez
        you need to head at the right time and understand the circumstances.


        I agree. It would be nice for Rogozin to turn on his head and think about the circumstances before his next ringing intermittent cries.
        1. -5
          28 October 2020 13: 39
          Quote: pereselenec
          It would be nice for Rogozin to turn on his head and think about the current circumstances before his next ringing intermittent cries.

          Rogozin is not so terrible as his critics (s).
          1. +9
            28 October 2020 15: 55
            To criticize, at least, brains are needed, but sublime language is enough. stop
            1. -4
              28 October 2020 19: 56
              Quote: lexus
              To criticize, at least, brains are needed

              You won't find true critics (on business) during the day with fire, and there are enough blabbols or baltabols everywhere.
        2. -7
          28 October 2020 13: 41
          Rogozin is doing great. Vostochny is being built, we are flying into space, we are launching satellites, we are developing new rockets. List me lad, how many countries in the world have this? And then crow about your gains.
          1. +6
            28 October 2020 15: 23
            Quote: Fungus
            Rogozin is doing great

            You can't argue with the fact that Rogozin is doing fine personally.
          2. +5
            28 October 2020 15: 25
            Quote: Fungus
            And then crow about your gains.

            Roosters crow, and you together with them.
            1. -4
              28 October 2020 19: 28
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Roosters crow, and you together with them.


              So the roosters only crow on Rogozin. laughing
    2. +1
      28 October 2020 12: 43
      There is no word "theirs" in Russian)
      1. +5
        28 October 2020 12: 51
        Quote: Alexey Polyutkin
        There is no word "theirs" in Russian)

        And also evony, mulberry, tama, here)
        1. +1
          28 October 2020 13: 03
          Quote: figvam
          And also evony, mulberry, tama, here)

          And also nikhay, let go, faq, pleshka (flash drive).
        2. 0
          28 October 2020 13: 05
          And also evony, mulberry, tama, here)

          Yeah. And "rezetka"
    3. -1
      28 October 2020 19: 08
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Looks like their trampoline works.


      Ours also launched their astronaut recently. laughing
  3. -4
    28 October 2020 12: 29
    Americans cannot remember in any way how they flew in reality to the moon - after all, they then had the most complex system of flights, how interesting it is to forget all this ...
    1. -2
      28 October 2020 12: 44
      The problem is not forgetfulness, but money.
      When they flew to the moon, their economy was above the roof, plus a desire to be ahead of us in some way. And today debts, loans, some of the technologies are different, and the old ones have been rolled up. In addition, as in the program with the F-35, they do not want to invest themselves and want to attract partners, and offer Russia a small module and fly to the moon. In short, they want to be the owners of the project and collect strings from the world for small money.
      1. +2
        29 October 2020 01: 19
        This is what Europe will build and what it gets in return. And what Russia has lost.
        “In accordance with this agreement, ESA will create habitable and refueling modules, as well as provide communication of the station with the lunar surface.
        In addition, ESA will provide two European service modules for the NASA Orion manned spacecraft, which will include propulsion engines and provide the capsule with energy, water and oxygen as part of the mission. In return, according to the agreement, ESA will receive “the opportunity to send its astronauts on American ships to the Gateway station. The staff will be able to conduct research around and on the Moon, as well as conduct experiments and implement the technologies necessary for a future mission to Mars. ”
        1. 0
          29 October 2020 08: 12
          Yes, they are planning something like that.
          Quote: eklmn
          ESA will get "the ability to send its astronauts on American ships to the Gateway station

          But here everything is smooth for them, but for us they can impose sanctions on flights to the moon, and therefore it is impossible to negotiate with amers on their terms. There is only one way out yourself or with reliable partners, but not with democracy.
          1. 0
            29 October 2020 15: 22
            "... but for us, they can also impose sanctions on flights to the moon, and therefore it is impossible to negotiate with amers on their terms."
            During the entire existence of the sanctions, neither the United States nor Russia has used them against “normal” business that is not related to know-how. Traded and traded in aluminum, titanium, gas / oil. It's another matter that Russia's business reputation is tarnished by irresponsibility - Zarya agreed to make the module, but said that there was no money. The USA gave money, and then the readiness of the module began to move in time, to lag behind the deadline. I suspect that Rogozin made a beautiful feint by refusing to cooperate with the United States - there really is no money, just as there are no modern technical sites where modules can be developed quickly and on time.
    2. +5
      28 October 2020 13: 00
      Americans cannot remember in any way how they flew in reality to the moon - after all, they then had the most complex system of flights, how interesting it is to forget all this ...

      And who said they forgot? Everything is in order, they have developed a phased system upon their return to the Moon using the latest technologies! This time they are going to stay there and settle down!
    3. +14
      28 October 2020 13: 06
      And the Russians can't remember how they sent probes to Venus, or lunar rovers to the moon ..))
      1. -8
        28 October 2020 13: 38
        Russians calmly fly into space why should they remember about probes? In the world, except for Russians, no one flies. Americans will fly for the second time in 10 years.
    4. +1
      28 October 2020 13: 07
      Americans cannot remember in any way how they flew in reality to the moon - after all, they then had the most complex system of flights, how interesting it is to forget all this ...

      Looking forward to the end of next year. They pledged to fly around the moon automatically.
  4. +1
    28 October 2020 13: 28
    What can you say - the trampoline is working.

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    2. -1
      28 October 2020 14: 23
      Quote: pereselenec
      trampoline earned

      Not. Finally born.
      1. 0
        28 October 2020 14: 45
        Within a month he will have a "Trampoline" much more serious than Dragon 2 - Starship 8, there will be something to see
    3. -5
      28 October 2020 19: 30
      Quote: pereselenec
      What can you say - the trampoline is working.



      Is Musk happily burying his astronauts and calling Roscosmos? lol
  5. +2
    28 October 2020 13: 59
    In May, it was planned for September.
  6. +3
    28 October 2020 14: 58
    Quote: Roman070280
    And the Russians can't remember how they sent probes to Venus, or lunar rovers to the moon ..))

    Maybe Soviet and not Russian? Or so it can be said about former non-brother brothers that, they say, they even forgot to launch satellites, not like cosmonauts, although if only the RSFSR took part in the events you mentioned and the Russians, I take my words back , and then, of course, deserved shame and shame only falls on their heads. winked
  7. +4
    28 October 2020 17: 14
    Quote: Alexey Polyutkin
    Saw cut but the nuclear tug is collected

    We have a lot of "collecting" - all sorts of "Eagles" and "Federations", "Angars 1 2 3 ...", the same "Nuclons". We build a lot on the "Vostochny" we are moving for 10-20 years, some pictures, plans. Soon we will go round third countries in real flights! hi hi
  8. -2
    28 October 2020 18: 05
    Well .. we will not be happy for the Americans, but there is hope that after this flight Roscosmos will be given magic pendels and we will also have something breakthrough ..)
    1. -2
      28 October 2020 19: 35
      Quote: Dikson
      Well .. we will not be happy for the Americans, but there is hope that after this flight Roscosmos will be given magic pendels and we will also have something breakthrough ..)


      On April 20, a heavy module weighing 22 tons is flying to the station and the flight of the American ship has nothing to do with this.

  9. -7
    28 October 2020 19: 22
    While the flight of the "low-orbit glamorous ship" Cru Dragon, which does not even have a normal toilet, is being discussed here, our cosmonauts who have just returned from orbit took part in one of the stages of the "Constellation-LM" experiment, the purpose of which is to assess the possibility of performing an astronaut landing on the surface of the Moon or planets of the solar system in manual mode after performing a long space flight.



    The experiment was successful. The astronauts coped with the task perfectly.
    1. -2
      28 October 2020 21: 22
      slipped .. and what, on our unglamorous Unions there is a toilet? )))
      1. 0
        29 October 2020 00: 09
        Quote: Dikson
        slipped .. and what, on our unglamorous Unions there is a toilet? )))


        Yes, to the left of the sideboard in the utility compartment. In the process, the astronaut can retire there humanly, and not ... in a hole in the ceiling above his comrade's head, as in the glamorous Cru Dragon.

        By the way, the "Eagle" has a special corner with a sliding curtain for this.
  10. +19
    28 October 2020 20: 28
    This is a serious matter. We wish you success. And don't forget about our programs.
  11. +14
    1 November 2020 23: 39
    NASA announced the date of the first regular manned flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft to the ISS

    Well, good luck.
    It's a pity that we lost the modern space race ...