Pictures of destroyed S-300 air defense system of the Armenian Armed Forces appeared on the web

Photos appeared on the web showing an Armenian S-300 anti-aircraft missile system hit by an Azerbaijani strike drone. Photos were published on the channel "War Syria Turkey Karabakh"

It is reported that the S-300 air defense system was part of the Armenian air defense system and was in open areas without any additional cover. Where exactly these pictures were taken is not reported. The comments suggest that the photographs show the S-300 complex destroyed by the strike drone-kamikaze of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan on October 9.

Also, a video of the destruction of the radar station, which is part of the complex, appeared on the Web.

In the storyboard video footage, which was recorded by ground-based surveillance cameras, it can be seen that the air defense system was hit by an Israeli-made Harpy drone, which struck the complex from above. According to available information, these drones are indeed in service with the Azerbaijani army.

Earlier, some media reported that Israel donated to Azerbaijan the mobile complex "Harpy" (Harpy) produced by the Israeli company IAI for testing in combat conditions. This complex was previously tested in Syria.

The whole question is where exactly the S-300 air defense system was located, which was destroyed. If these are the territories of Armenia, then it turns out that an act of aggression was carried out against this state.

Comments

[Livonetc]

"Earlier, some media reported that Israel donated the Harpy mobile complex (Harpy) produced by the Israeli company IAI to Azerbaijan for testing in combat conditions."
This is how the co-forums from Israel are ardently involved in the topic.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, in general it is interesting - innovation versus classics.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Krasnodar

Yes, in general it is interesting - innovation versus classics.

This is already an "old man". And certainly no one gave them for free. Our military-industrial complex belongs to private firms, and they do not play with such gifts. In general, over the past 10 years, Azerbaijan has bought military-industrial complex products in Israel for $ 5 billion.
And as for the new products, they are rather barrage ammunition.

[Errr]

Judging by the photo in the article, they used the "Harop" again. He's not that old, and not at all cheap, however ... Although the S-300, of course, will be more expensive.

[Krasnodar]

Harop 20 years old, approx

[Errr]

Well. he is not twenty yet. In 2009, it was only first presented at Aero-India.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Herrr

Well. he is not twenty yet. In 2009, it was only first presented at Aero-India.

Presented)).

[venik]

Quote: Herrr

Well. he is not twenty yet. In 2009, it was only first presented at Aero-India.

=======
"Presented" - Yes! And the first flight was in the fall of 2003 ..... So, it is far from being an "old man", but for a long time already "not a young man" ......

[Krasnodar]

17 years old - then I agree, it is fair to consider the age from the first flight

[Errr]

As a finished product, "Harop" was first introduced to the British in 2005 (as "White Hawk"). From now on, I propose to consider him a 15-year-old bad boy.

[Krasnodar]

Not fair - he was already two years old then

[Errr]

There is some difference between an eagle and an eagle, isn't there?

[Krasnodar]

Are the enemies called an eagle?

[Errr]

In the trench. Sergeant (horrified):
- EAGLE, EAGLE, welcome. EAGLE, welcome. EAGLE! EAGLE! I forgot who I am.
- Actually, you are a guano, but now you are a FALCON. Got it, you bastard? FALCON you, FALCON!

[Krasnodar]

Israeli vultures, with the hands of the pan-Turkist Aliyev, destroy the beauty and pride of Air Defense that has no analogues in the world - the S-300 air defense system, which surpasses the Patriot produced in America, choking from the operation of an African American by the Anglo-Saxon America, in all respects, including spirituality, collegiality and the radius of destruction of Airbuses flying at ultra-low heights

[Cotton Colorado]

I would like to know more about the efficiency of the Patriots, especially when attacking Saudi oil refineries.

[Krasnodar]

Well I write - ineffective

[YOUR]

Another thing is surprising. S-300 was working (!!!!!!!!), the target was not detected.

[Errr]

So it was the gasket.
By the way, I remembered a joke:

Two gangsters meet. One to the other:
- Have you heard? Yesterday Vova "Shaved" was shot during a disassembly. Eight bullets and all to the head.
- Well, what?
- The doctor said - he will live. The brain is not affected.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

This is already an "old man".

In that conflict, no one has modern weapons. It's just that the Armenians have weapons of the 70-80s, Azerbaijan has the 90s.

[the finish]

Then probably something like that will work too ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: finish

Then probably something like that will work too ...

Take the log out of the eye. Who supplied the main weapon to Azerbaijan? Or did you do it for beautiful eyes?

[Incvizitor]

What did the Russian Federation supply at the height of the war?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Incvizitor

What did the Russian Federation supply at the height of the war?

And what goes through Iran to Armenia now? Or is it kosher to supply weapons to Armenians?

[Incvizitor]

And what is supplied through Iran, maybe from 400 or tanks or armor? If it was normal that something was supplied, there would be no drones already.

[Cartalon]

Yes damn kosher, because Armenians will simply be killed, but other people's genocides are not considered

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Cartalon

Yes damn kosher, because Armenians will simply be killed, but other people's genocides are not considered

What genocide? They will build gas chambers ?? It is high time for Mirnyak to be evacuated to Armenia (according to Sputnik Armenia, there are already 90 thousand out of 150 thousand of the population there), and men have weapons in their hands - they are not unfortunate sheep going to the slaughter.
So to cover up your arrogant attitude towards the enemy before the start of hostilities and the stupidity of the army leadership with the expected genocide is disgusting and low.
And about the Holocaust - keep your mouth shut. About him in Israel itself began to talk only after the "Maidan" in the early 60s - because of the massive protests of people against accepting reparations from Germany. There were killed and wounded.
And it's a sin for you to complain - the enemy needs to storm the mountains, an ideal place for defense.

[the Saint]

Quote: Incvizitor

What did the Russian Federation supply at the height of the war?

She diligently prepared for war, and what is most disgusting - both sides.


"The contracts implemented between Russia and Azerbaijan, or rather, the military products purchased by Azerbaijan from Russia, exceed $ 5 billion," Aliyev said 2 years ago.
At the same time, he noted that there is a tendency for the purchase of military products from Russia to grow, as Azerbaijan is modernizing its armed forces in connection with the Karabakh problem.

At the same time, Armenia also purchases weapons in connection with the same conflict, and Russia remains the main exporter for it. For example, Yerevan bought on credit from Russia the Iskander-E and S-300 air defense systems, which Azerbaijan has already destroyed, and which will have to be bought again.

[Incvizitor]

I write during a conflict, it's completely different.

[Roman070280]

Well, yes .. but what is supplied before the conflict is like heavenly mana .. and balm for the soul ..))
It's not entirely different .. it's just a convenient presentation option ..

[Incvizitor]

Supplies BEFORE the conflict are not support for one of the parties to the conflict, are they?

[michael2000]

She diligently prepared for war, and what is most disgusting - both sides.

What passage, and if it were supplied by Americans or Jews, then there would be nothing disgusting. It would be just a business, and since Russia supplied weapons, it is so disgusting!

[the Saint]

Quote: michael2000

She diligently prepared for war, and what is most disgusting - both sides.

What passage, and if it were supplied by Americans or Jews, then there would be nothing disgusting. It would be just a business, and since Russia supplied weapons, it is so disgusting!

When Americans or Jews do this, then we will discuss the ethics of their disgusting behavior. Until then, Russia.

[michael2000]

Quote: el Santo

When Americans or Jews do this, then we will discuss the ethics of their disgusting behavior. Until then, Russia.

And the fact that Azerbaijan has been very actively buying weapons from Israel over the past seven years is such garbage.
And yes, I remembered: it's different - you need to understand!

[the Saint]

Quote: michael2000

And the fact that Azerbaijan has been very actively buying weapons from Israel over the past seven years is such garbage.

And did Armenia also buy from Israel? Or did Turkey supply arms to both sides?
This is it.

[Oquzyurd]

This "finish (finish)" is the manufacturer of "Noy" horse, and did not supply anything to Azerbaijan.))

[Rubina]

That's it. 80% of Azerbaijan's weapons were purchased from Russia. So this quote applies to Russia more.

[Maz]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: finish

Then probably something like that will work too ...

Take the log out of the eye. Who supplied the main weapon to Azerbaijan? Or did you do it for beautiful eyes?

Aron, the weapons that Russia sold to both sides, did not violate the parity between Baku and Yerevan. Even with a fivefold advantage in tanks and arte, the Ayserbans would not have been able to break through the defense of the Armenians and would not have gained advantages. It was the drones and the factory for their production, which was built by Israel Airspace Industries, that gave Aliyev hope that he would be able to overwhelm the Armenian defense. Plus, during the war itself, in the first weeks, Israel sent eight transport workers from the Ovda airbase in Eilat, two hundred tons of weapons in about each. During the war, they did not disdain to supply arms to the open .. They did not declare a moratorium on the supply ... Even the Israelis themselves were outraged in the local media. And the Armenians were not going to attack Baku. And your "genius" industrialists, politicians and general staff could not fail to understand this. There is one more nuance. Fine-grained Israel could not make such a delivery without the permission of its owner, the United States. That is, this whole conflict was simply blessed in Washington before all these 5 billion deals. With an eye to wreak havoc here. Only the deaf-blind-mute could not calculate the actions of Baku. And you have the almighty MoSSssad, who even bought a vaccine from China and delivered it to the country yesterday .... That is, your Jewish leadership knew all this and acted in the same way as the industrialists-fascists during the Holocaust. So, Aron is looking for a log. And, as I said, Armenians are not ayisidiots and their diaspora is not small, they know how to wait and they will take revenge, this is the Caucasus. No one canceled the blood feud. So sho a log - joke at yourself. By the way, the war began only after Israel and Turkey tested their drones in Syria and Libya and conducted exercises in Azeibarjan ... And I beg you, do not meddle with your sideways and noses in smelly lids on bosses in Ukraine with the same words they say "nothing personal, just business" ... THERE is far from Israel, and sometimes the north wind blows away what the ancient Sumerians did not steal from the army to their farms. And just have pity on your Ukrainian-Russian speaking officers, reservists, instructors. After all, they may not return home, to their historical homeland.

[atalef]

Quote: Maz

the weapons that Russia sold to both sides did not violate the parity between Baku and Yerevan

Well, as always

“We buy weapons from many countries, but most of it is purchased not from Turkey and Israel, but from Russia. Unlike Armenia, we pay for Russian supplies. Armenia receives weapons from Russia free of charge. We also buy weapons from Iran, Ukraine and Belarus "

and the Jews are to blame

Quote: Maz

Even with a fivefold advantage in tanks and arte, the Ayserbans would not have been able to break through the defense of the Armenians and would not have gained advantages. It was the drones and the factory for their production, which was built by Israel Airspace Industries, that gave Aliyev hope that he would be able to overwhelm the Armenian defense.

great, weapons are generally bought to win, and not for that. so that you can't do anything with a five-fold superiority.

Quote: Maz

Even the Israelis themselves are outraged in the local media

yes, yes, they also showed a fight between supporters of Azerbaijan and Armenia - and both sides were with the flags of Israel.

Quote: Maz

The Armenians were not going to attack Baku.

of course, only 25% of the territory was chopped off 30 years ago. but of course not

Quote: Maz

With an eye to wreak havoc here.

here is where 7 are you already in Karabakh?
or, as always, from the couch, where do you live there? In Rehovot 7

Quote: Maz

Only the deaf-blind-mute could not calculate the actions of Baku

That's for sure . only the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation could not.

Quote: Maz

all this knew and did the same as the industrialists-fascists during the Holocaust.

Yah ? and Russia as Stalin?

Quote: Maz

And as I said, the Armenians are not Ayisidiots and their diaspora is not small, they know how to wait and they will take revenge, this is the Caucasus.

Well yes . and Azerbaijan is Scandinavia.

Quote: Maz

And I beg you, do not meddle with your sideways and noses in Ukraine

h..Ukrainian, what are you doing in Israel? With your forelock?
Sharovary pants in sharovki and get out to the hut.

Quote: Maz

THERE is far from Israel and sometimes the north wind blows

you blew all the way to Israel

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: atalef

h..Ukrainian, what are you doing in Israel? With your forelock?
Wide trousers in sharovki and get to the hut

he is generally on a different occasion.
And I did not expect this from you. Surprised, usually neutral.
As for the sales of weapons to the Russian Federation and both. In every topic on VO about the next sale, there was always a question in the comments that the sale of weapons led to an escalation of the conflict and sooner or later this weapon will fire.
To which there was always the same answer. If we don't sell, then NATO soldiers will do it ... oh ... others will do it ...
Some kind of logic can be traced, of course. But the Russian Federation started the given region most of all with weapons. When he once again flared up - the search for the guilty is always with competitors.
This time, anyone is to blame, but not the Russian Federation: NATO soldiers, Obama, Trump personally sold weapons most of all. Both sides of the conflict.

[atalef]

Quote: Niel-le-Calais

This time, anyone is to blame, but not the Russian Federation: these are NATO soldiers, Obama

Obama also shit in all the elevators

[bukhach]

As it is not in all, he tore our economy to shreds, but how will the elevators work without her, my dear?

[NTD]

Quote: Niel-le-Calais

If we don't sell, then NATO soldiers will do it ... oh ... others will do it ...

And who would sell an analogue of the T-90S tank to Azerbaijan?

[Roman070280]

If we don't sell, then NATO soldiers will do it ... oh ... others will do it ...
Some kind of logic can be traced, of course. But the Russian Federation started the given region most of all with weapons. When he once again flared up - the search for the guilty is always with competitors.
This time, anyone is to blame, but not Russia: NATO soldiers, Obama, Trump

I'm crying ..))

[Overlock]

Quote: atalef

the Jews are to blame

Or babies who interfere with a bad dancer.
The difference is that the Jews are far away, but their bebihi and near sorry and ashamed

[Boa kaa]

Quote: atalef

Only the deaf-blind-mute could not calculate the actions of Baku

That's for sure . only the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation could not.

You are a flying mouse, if you have such an opinion about the analysts of the General Staff of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces !!!!
Our intelligence even knows what tr ..., in what underwear your president and the minister of defense go ... And to calculate why offensive weapons are being purchased is a task for a freshman AGSH! and not the Bison of the Chief Operators of the Army Brain.
But!

[atalef]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

You are a flying mouse if you have such an opinion about the analysts of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces !!!

Udav
This is my opinion.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Our intelligence even knows what tr ..., what underwear your president

Crappy intelligence.
our president is a declarative figure. ruled by the prime minister.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And to calculate why offensive weapons are purchased is a task for a freshman AGSH

exactly, but for a sophomore - why the heck (type) did Azerbaijan buy weapons from Russia for more than 5 lards, if he was not going to fight? Or is it more convenient to lift virgin soil on tanks?

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

and not the Bison of the Chief Operators of the Army Brain.

The European bison belongs to a fairly diverse order cetaceans (Cetartiodactyla), which, as the name implies, includes whales and artiodactyls
The eyes in most species of cetopods, both aquatic and terrestrial, are located on the sides of the head, while, unlike, for example, humans or cats, in they are dominated by monocular vision, that is, the fields of view of the left and right eyes are largely isolated... This characteristic allows us to interpret preferences in the use of the eyes as manifestations interhemispheric asymmetry in the analysis of visual information
.

almost Freudian. straight to the point - KAA

[zollstab]

From the old days: If there is no water in the tap, they drank it ...

[Krasnodar]

And your "genius" industrialists, politicians and general staff could not fail to understand this.

Everyone understood perfectly - why is the genius in quotation marks?

Fine-grained Israel could not make such a delivery without the permission of its owner, the United States.

Come on, MAZ. besides fine-grained Israel, what other developed country do you need with your talents? Here at least you earn more or less human money Yes, and about the owner of the cheto is controversial - the Jews were bashing Trump's election campaign and, most likely, bashing (as well as opponents), and the president's son-in-law is a Jew - like you, the future one. Only he has a billionaire Jew, and you will most likely have a Taimani or a Moroccan from the area))

That is, your Jewish leadership knew all this and did the same as the industrialists-fascists during the Holocaust.

Are you comparing the systematic destruction of prisoners of war and civilians in extermination camps with the use of weapons during a war between two state entities ??

And, as I said, Armenians are not ayisidiots and their diaspora is not small, they know how to wait and they will take revenge, this is the Caucasus. No one canceled the blood feud.

MAZ, did your boss scold you at work today? Or did the chief from the States call with claims? So much anger ..

And I beg you, do not meddle with your sidelocks and noses in smelly lids on boskoy on Ukraine with the same words, they say, "nothing personal, just business."

As a citizen and resident of Israel who spends money earned on plowing for the welfare of American and local Jews in the Zionist state, you can approach the Knesset with a corresponding poster. Durka is not far away - I worked there as a security guard in my student years, I know

And just have pity on your Ukrainian-Russian speaking officers, reservists, instructors. After all, they may not return home, to their historical homeland.

In fact, they are private persons, MAZ - they are going to earn extra money, at first they even volunteered for Donbass.
And to you, as a citizen and resident of the Russian Federation, I would advise the following:
Stop sending money to your relatives in Ukraine! With each purchase of bread, bacon and dumplings made by your relatives, the shop owner pays a tax on the conduct of the Russophobic ATO! Stop supporting the Banderites !!

[New Year day]

Quote: Maz

the factory for their production, which was built by Israel

Couldn't the Armenian diaspora have built the same factory?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Nat Deneg. Savsem net. Taxes shmalogi zhekekh are one ubitka.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Nat Deneg. Savsem net. Taxes shmalogi zhekekh are one ubitka.

Next to Think, the Kremlin - deneg net, there are connections

[military_cat]

Quote: Maz

Aron, the weapons that Russia sold to both sides, did not violate the parity between Baku and Yerevan. Even with a fivefold advantage in tanks and arte, the Ayserbans would not have been able to break through the defense of the Armenians and would not have gained advantages. It was the drones and the factory for their production, which was built by Israel Airspace Industries, that gave Aliyev hope that he would be able to overwhelm the Armenian defense.

Excuse me, are you saying that Russia is supplying useless junk under the guise of weapons, unable to compare in efficiency with competitors' products? Do you think anyone will buy it next time, given the scenario that you described?

[Mik13]

Quote: finish

Then probably something like that will work too ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: finish

Oh ... who forbade the Armenians to buy Israeli weapons? And the comparison itself - war with "tomato traders without a sweetheart" - I voice Armenian words, and the complete destruction of civilians and prisoners of war (Red Army) in special death camps.
Now - for the sake of friends, Israel might have gone to:
damage to one's own security - with the permission of the courtesy of the government of Azerbaijan, Israeli special services are operating from the territory of the country against Iran:
damage to the country's fuel supply - 40% of oil comes from Azerbaijan, incl. in exchange for weapons;
financial damage for penalties;
reputational damage to an unreliable supplier.
Armenia is a friend of Israel ???
There was and still is a Jewish community in Azerbaijan (as many as three - mountain, Ashkenazi and Georgian). There has never been any serious anti-Semitism.
Relations with Azerbaijan have always been mutually beneficial - they pay for everything, no loans or requests.
What can Armenia boast about here?

[the Saint]

Quote: Krasnodar

Oh ... who forbade the Armenians to buy Israeli weapons?

Duc, they believed the boastful retired major (who received the next rank as a consolation upon resignation, as was customary in the KGB) that he has the "best in the world" weapon.

"The Su-57 is the best aircraft in the world in terms of all tactical and technical data, in terms of weapons. So no one can fly like our fighter," Putin said.

"... and the best system in the world today is the Russian-made S-400 Triumph ..." Putin said.

"We are ready to provide appropriate assistance to Saudi Arabia, and it is enough for the political leadership of Saudi Arabia to make a wise government decision, as the leaders of Iran did in their time by purchasing the S-300, and as President Erdogan did by purchasing the latest air defense systems from Russia. 400 "Triumph" - said Putin.
According to Putin, "they will reliably protect any infrastructure in Saudi Arabia."
In response to a clarifying question from one of his colleagues, what is better to buy Riyadh, S-300 or S-400, the Russian president said: "Let them choose."

Erdogan's reaction was restrained; he did not comment on the words of the Russian president.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, they did not believe in anything - the Azerbaijanis saved money for the war, the Armenians sawed the budget between their own, then they changed "theirs", because too few numbers were included in their circle. With this course of events, they were clearly not up to the modern army.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: el Santo

Duc, they believed the boastful retired major (who received the next rank as a consolation upon resignation, as was customary in the KGB) that he has the "best in the world" weapon.

Frames decide everything. ©
For technology is in hand savage an unprepared crew - a pile of iron. Iraq is an example of this: under Saddam, they managed to love Soviet weapons; under the new democratic government, they loved American weapons in the same way.
The same S-300 cannot work at its own expense and the higher levels of the air defense system, independently deploying antennas, independently detecting targets and independently covering themselves with "tori" or MZA.

[the Saint]

Quote: Alexey RA

For technology in the hands of a savage unprepared crew is a pile of iron.

The aces of the USSR Air Force on the modern MiG-21 in Egypt also showed themselves not very well, losing dry on July 30, 1970 in 6 minutes of battle 5 fighters and 4 pilots with their numerical superiority.
That is, for every clever nut there is always a bolt with a special thread.

[Overlock]

Quote: el Santo

they will reliably protect any infrastructure in Saudi Arabia. "

He wants to buy Salman in exchange for a decent oil price.
Rushing from hopelessness - the budget deficit because of Salman is 30-40%.

[atalef]

Quote: Krasnodar

What can Armenia boast about here?

the fact that Jews never lived there

[Krasnodar]

Well, this is ... they were the first to accept Christianity at the state level, so everyone around whom they could "converted" - so the Jews stayed away from them)).

[Overlock]

Quote: Krasnodar

Oh ... who forbade the Armenians to buy Israeli weapons?

The greedy ended up, rested on the laurels of the last war and hoped that the Russians would fit in

[Krasnodar]

Quite right - at the same time underestimated the enemy.

[Overlock]

Quote: Krasnodar

Quite right - at the same time underestimated the enemy.

Nothing degrades like stagnation

[Krasnodar]

And self-praise along with self-admiration

[Alex013]

In some ways I agree with you ... But .. the diaspora is rich, and the people in the "place" are very poor. I have been working with both Armenians and Azerbaijanis for a long time. And let me, Great Dane, I'll do some more work. Peace to people! As I remember now. Ruler, the pioneer leader about Spitak, they collected everything and everything from the village. The aunt had two kids for three years.

[Xnumx vis]

Israel speaking ...

Quote: Krasnodar

Relations with Azerbaijan have always been mutually beneficial - they pay for everything, no loans or requests.
What can Armenia boast about here?

If you want to know who started some kind of mess, Maidan, war. Find out who benefits from it! However, everything is clear and a hedgehog ...

[Krasnodar]

Therefore, Russia must certainly help Armenia to protect Artsakh

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Krasnodar

Therefore, Russia must certainly help Armenia to protect Artsakh

No, that's not why. Russia, just like Israel, has its own interests. This is nothing new or strange.

[Krasnodar]

The interests of Russia, at the moment, are to overthrow Pashinyan and return "theirs" to the power of Armenia.

[Xnumx vis]

Russia's interests are to return peace to the Caucasus. By confirming by this their leading role and influence on the Caucasian republics. It's simple. And Pashinyan is a temporary figure, today is Pashinyan, tomorrow is Karapetyan, the day after tomorrow is Aratyunyan or Ayvazyan .. Latin America!

[Krasnodar]

Peace can be returned to the Caucasus in different ways - incl. passing the NKR is the most painless method for the Russian Federation. The same as after the British left Egypt, it was more profitable for the USSR to surrender Israel for the sake of peace in its zone of influence in the BW.
As for the leading role - the Russian Federation now has its own problems to the fig and the idea of ​​"returning to the Transcaucasus" is not popular here - at least among the population. Moreover, mass mobilization among local Armenians is also not visible.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Krasnodar

As for the leading role - the Russian Federation now has its own problems to the fig and the idea of ​​"returning to the Transcaucasus" is not popular here - at least among the population. Moreover, mass mobilization among local Armenians is also not visible.

And here is the peace in the Caucasus and the mobilization of Armenians, where I spoke about the return of Russia to the Caucasus. I'm sure we have nothing to do there. You take everything literally. It is necessary to regain the authority and subordination of the Caucasian republics by increasing their influence on peace and war in this region. This is what the United States does, old England puffs and groans .. Everything is old! Like this World. Divide and rule. Whether Karabakh is surrendered or not, this is Pashinyan's problem. Let him learn to behave correctly.

[Krasnodar]

That's it! Let the republics think - how much Russia needs them and how much they need the Russian Federation! I agree.

[Piramidon]

Quote: finish

Then probably something like that will work too ...

The comparison is somehow stupid and out of topic. Was this "cyclone" used at the front? Then the one who invented the stove was generally the last co3el. After all, the Germans burned people alive in the ovens of the crematoria.

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Piramidon

Was this "cyclone" used at the front?

"Cyclone" was produced by the company Degesch [de] (German: Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung GmbH - LLC "German Society for Pest Control"), which was a division of the Degussa corporation since 1922. A team of plant chemists has developed a method for packing hydrogen cyanide into sealed canisters. The new product became known as Zyklon B to distinguish it from the earlier version.
The product was used to sanitize clothing and fumigate ships, warehouses and trains to kill pests.
The substance is still produced in the Czech Republic, in the city of Kolín, under the brand name "Uragan D2"
Here they are "fascists". Precisely for gas chambers.
Most people are killed by car, food / lack of food / water ..
In short, all must be destroyed. Producers of goods, because their products are used by murderers.

[New Year day]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

"old man".

Does not spoil the furrows

[Lexus]

It depends on what.

[not main]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Aron Zaavi (Aron) Today, 15:53 ​​N

Handsomely! But the truth does not pull! Maximum cartoons from Disney!

[Andrew 40]

Another slap in the face for those who underestimate shock drones. And hopes for good air defense.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Livonetc

This is how the co-forums from Israel are ardently involved in the topic.

What does it mean "ardently involved in the topic"? Do you blame them?

[Sergey M. Karasev]

This is how the co-forums from Israel are ardently involved in the topic.

Yes, now they will start pounding themselves with their heels in the chest, reveling in the steepness of their weapons and the squalor of ours, that Mark Pekarsky with his ensemble nervously turns on the sidelines.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev

now they will start pounding themselves with heels in the chest, reveling in the steepness of their weapons

Each one praises his own. No wonder. They beat - and you beat

[Professor]

Quote: Livonetc

"Earlier, some media reported that Israel handed over to Azerbaijan free of charge mabundant complex "Harpy" (Harpy) produced by the Israeli firm IAI for testing in combat conditions "

Israel? Free?

PS
S-300 with a start. Finally he hit something. A ramming loitering ammunition.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

No vile suspicions needed. Jews have been known since ancient times for their generosity and broad-mindedness.

[Professor]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

No vile suspicions needed. Jews have been known since ancient times for their generosity and broad-mindedness.

We have a very developed donation. A religious Jew donates 10% of the income to his community, but we know how to do business. Azerbaijan is solvent. We don’t give him anything for free.

[the Saint]

Quote: professor

We have a very developed donation. A religious Jew donates 10% of the income to his community, but we know how to do business. Azerbaijan is solvent. We don’t give him anything for free.

However, you are greedy pensioners, albeit much more prosperous than ours, who fully approve of the Kremlin's expensive arms gifts (albeit sometimes issued in the form of loans that are not scheduled for return) as the same poor Armenia or Belarus, or just for nothing, like the Middle Asia or Serbia.

[Professor]

Quote: el Santo

Quote: professor

We have a very developed donation. A religious Jew donates 10% of the income to his community, but we know how to do business. Azerbaijan is solvent. We don’t give him anything for free.

However, you are greedy pensioners, albeit much more prosperous than ours, who fully approve of the Kremlin's expensive arms gifts (albeit sometimes issued in the form of loans that are not scheduled for return) as the same poor Armenia or Belarus, or just for nothing, like the Middle Asia or Serbia.

RF is a rich country. Maybe Syria can forgive $ 10 million despite the presence of oil in Syria. We are not so rich as to give weapons to solvent countries.

[the Saint]

Quote: professor

despite the presence of oil in Syria. We are not so rich as to give weapons to solvent countries.

Algeria received the first batch of Russian MiG-29M fighters.
A $ 2019 billion contract for the supply of new fighters was signed in 2019 at the MAKS-14 international air show. In addition to 29 MiG-2M / M16 fighters, Russia will also supply 30 Su-XNUMX fighters to the country.

In fact, it will be a gift, even if Algeria decides to pay the money this time. And if he decides to throw his grandfather on the grandmother again, then this is not minus $ 4.740 billion, but immediately minus $ 10 billion from the treasury of the Russian Federation.
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"Russia, in accordance with the procedure additionally agreed by the parties, wrote off the amount of 4.737.246.541,50 US dollars, which, as of February 1, 2006, represented the total amount of Algeria's debt to the Russian Federation on previously provided loans." - says the first article of the signed Agreement.

It was concluded "in order to further develop and strengthen friendly relations between the two countries and develop mutually beneficial trade and economic cooperation and, taking into account that the Algerian side will purchase Russian industrial products for an amount equal to or exceeding" the amount of the debt to be written off. The Russian side did not hide the fact that it relies heavily on military products.

[atalef]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

No vile suspicions needed. Jews have been known since ancient times for their generosity and broad-mindedness.

better harpy for money than s-300 for free

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Undoubtedly. I understand you very well, because I myself disinterestedly love money.

[New Year day]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

I myself unselfishly love money.

Who doesn't love them? "Money develops imagination" - Beau Marchais

[Oquzyurd]

Even on the military-patriotic music video there are these systems, behind the singers there are 4 such complexes, in each 9 pieces. such kamikaze. (0,30 sec.)

[IS-80_RVGK2]

As I watch this clip, I recall the words of Brad Pete aka Achilles from Troy. "Imagine that the kings would fight themselves. That would be a sight."

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

As I watch this clip, I recall the words of Brad Pete aka Achilles from Troy. "Imagine that the kings would fight themselves. That would be a sight."

gorgeous moment.
And the leaders were sacrificed when it was really bad.

[alexmach]

"Imagine that the kings would have fought themselves. That would have been a sight."

Imagine that Achilles himself was a king, and that the kings in those days and right up to the late Middle Ages fought themselves. High Chief Agamennon was wounded, and the Children of Priam fought in the field. And Ivan the Terrible personally went to take Kazan. Napoleon even led the troops into the attack.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Yes Yes. And three hundred more Spartans with Tsar Leonidas. Here we are talking about something else. Tighten your gyrus, the meaning of what has been said is not so difficult to understand.

[Sanichsan]

good evening

Quote: alexmach

And Ivan the Terrible personally went to take Kazan.

Well, to Kazan, then he personally led the troops because without him three times the case failed, and the fourth time they would have ruined it if it were not for his personal presence and, as a result, the one-man command of the army in the same place the governors, after the floor of the convoy had been washed away, immediately offered to roll up in the middle of the siege.

[alexmach]

Good evening.

So the rest of the kings and other feudal rulers personally went to war for a reason, but for approximately similar reasons.

What can you say about Belarus? How do you assess the situation?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: alexmach

So the rest of the kings and other feudal rulers personally went to war for a reason, but for approximately similar reasons.

princes, kings and counts of the troops personally led the battle because if you are not the coolest then why did you appoint yourself as chief ?. so to speak, the justification of their power, in connection with which they often died, were taken prisoner, etc., which led to defeats. as soon as the opportunity arose to substantiate their rights to power in a different way (in which the church helped a lot), the need to personally lead the troops disappeared and specially trained people began to do this. Of course, this process was not instantaneous, but under Ivan the Terrible it was already ending. about Kazan here, rather, "if you want everything to be done correctly, do it yourself." but this is rather an exception. the main part of military operations was carried out without the participation of the king, for example, the defeat of the Tatars at Molody.

Quote: alexmach

What can you say about Belarus? How do you assess the situation?

I assess it as the collapse of the anti-Lukashenka movement. the last chance to prove his worth was a "general strike" after not fulfilling the requirements of the ultimatum, but it turned out to be a mess. several private workers on strike ... well, apparently they do not want to work in this region.
Lukashenka simply ignored the ultimatum and once again demonstrated the opposition's powerlessness. the scale of the protests is steadily declining. calls to drive women and disabled people to protests beyond the bounds. in general convulsions are obvious
but something else worries, Lukashenka seems to have begun to fidget again in search of a second chair to sit on.

[SSR]

Quote: Livonetc

Israel donated to Azerbaijan the mobile complex "Harpy" (Harpy) produced by the Israeli firm IAI for testing in combat conditions "

So the Israelis planned the attacks, use and targets in advance for the sake of advertising.
Just give it to the side without the possibility of getting baksheesh? The Israelis are not capable of such wastefulness and still understand who taught whom, Anglo-Saxons Jews or Anglo-Saxons Jews.

[Knell wardenheart]

In general, an interesting question - what the Israeli "charity" has forgotten in this muddy water and in the Muslim country in particular.

[Dude]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

In general, an interesting question - what the Israeli "charity" has forgotten in this muddy water and in the Muslim country in particular.

How did you forget? Look, with what ecstasy, enthusiastic laughter and hooting, bitch with legs, and blowing, with happiness, in their pants, almost the entire Jewish party in VO rejoices in the destruction Russian air defense complex.
Notably uncovered.
Israel is no less (and perhaps even greater) enemy of Russia than the United Kingdom or the United States.
So, the goal is the same - to kindle a fire on the borders of Russia, squeeze out the spheres of influence, and, in the long term, destroy it as a single state.
Nothing new.

[Knell wardenheart]

Well, in fairness - we ourselves have messed up relations with Israel in due time .. it was not they who supplied equipment and weapons to the Forest Brothers or Bandera, but we - to the countries of "Young Arab Socialism". Who tried to ruin their state, how many raziks are there ..? So the attitude is appropriate. In no way defending them, I point out that all the surrounding Izr. unfriendly states are armed (suddenly) with our technology and often their military leadership was trained with us, we supplied them with advisers and trained the edge of their forces. That is, in general, we did the same thing, for which we now love to rustle angrily with our mustaches at the United States, which "carefully" lays down our borders with its equipment and "help" to various sire and poor, who do not love our country so much.

As it said, what you sow is what you reap. This is not an abstract thing at all ..
Right now, for example, we are in Syria, in general, a country very far from us, openly unfriendly to Israel - even now. In addition to our forces, there are also Iranian forces there, who generally openly declare that "Israel must be destroyed." And we are essentially saving this state and the regime, supplying it with some kind of weapon, covering up some zones of our air defense - it doesn't matter what goals (imaginary and real) we want to achieve there - but we need to understand how Israel perceives all this (in the context of where I started).
Our own attitude and reaction in SUCH situations - you know what. But in the best traditions of doublethink, we prefer not to notice these discrepancies.

And as for the joy of destroying these complexes, shells, etc., it is not the very fact of destroying something that saddens, it saddens how ineptly we sell weapons to some artless countries of the 3rd world, in small batches, absolutely without regard to their future loyalty or the situation in the regions, where do we sell it. We sell - like some kind of narrow-minded peddler, earning money for kefir and an enema, and absolutely not caring about the image or high-quality business management, and even about the future in principle.
And the future is just that - this weapon will be torn off from the complex and hell knows who will fight on it - and they will seize it, bomb it, learn to resist it. And we will lose our image. Someone from China will come and say - "mdams, the Russians used to have good equipment, we bought it, but yeah .. in recent years, it’s not just cake .. but it’s our business" - and stupidly wring out our niche.

[Dude]

Well, in fairness - we ourselves screwed up relations with Israel at one time ..

In all fairness, the USSR played a decisive role in the UN in the creation of the State of Israel. And he was the first to recognize him, for a minute. Well, when Israel took the side of the United States in the Middle East policy - what was left for the Soviet Union to do? However, I do not want to get into this topic - it is very extensive.

We sell - like some kind of narrow-minded peddler ...

Here I agree completely.

[Maz]

That's all you need to know about Israel for any question ...
And you are here about Armenians, Azeibarjans, a log ... Looks like they were carrying weapons to Baku, this is more important, they covered supplies, and then some
coronaviruses ... butterflies are more important

Knesset member Kozhinov: the test sticks delivered by the Mossad at the beginning of the epidemic to Israel turned out to be vaginal, so there were many mistakes when taking samples for the corona test ... https://www.newsru.co.il/israel/26oct20 … nMEy_8KvgA
https://www.newsru.co.il/israel/26oct2020/kozhinov.html?fbclid=IwAR21NrTB20jdpAxWWfelcLiKTLyol4GubPuuMpEyjHgxuj5HgnMEy_8KvgA
"The more I work in the commissions in the Knesset, the more doubts I have - either laughing nonstop, or crying at the realization of the factors that affect the whole fight against the crown ...

And so Dr. Zvi Marom, president of the Israeli high-tech association within the chamber of industry, says: "We have developed a test based on 4 genes. It is very accurate - now we are selling it to airports abroad. It needs an applicator - the same swab with cotton - Collect material in the throat. Well, like a test for streptococcus. And Professor Sadetsky from the Ministry of Health insisted on a different system - there you need to take tests from each nostril and from the throat with three different applicators. It was the need to use three applicators for each test that led at the very beginning to Do you remember when all the special services chased after these applicators? So - they brought a large batch. And it turned out that they did not quite fit - something was wrong there, the results were not accurate ... But they continued to use it until someone from the specialists did not resist and did not check thoroughly. It turned out that these are vaginal applicators, which are not suitable for taking material from the throat or nostrils. " So cry or laugh? ".....
that's all you need to know about Israel and its position on any issue, they don't give a fuck about their citizens, why talk about Armenians there. This is how you need to have the intelligence and desire to help your country in order to buy vaginal stick insects instead of oral ones? And who was entrusted - the most brilliant of the brilliant

[Vol4ara]

Was it supposed to be located in a closed area?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Vol4ara

Was it supposed to be located in a closed area?

Keywords:

without any additional cover

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Vol4ara

Was it supposed to be located in a closed area?

Keywords:

without any additional cover

And this is the official statement of the Armenian side that they left c300 like stupid rams without a cover, or the author of the channel came up with a gag

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Whatever perfect weapon there is, one must be able to fight them.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Harpy is a homing projectile aircraft. After detecting radar signals, it determines the location of the target, dives at it and strikes with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead. It is launched from a mobile container-type launcher using solid-propellant launch boosters. The first flight took place in 1989.

Harpy is in service with the Israeli Armed Forces, was sold to Turkey, China, India and South Korea.

In this case, the ability to fight plays a small role. If the radar is working, it will be destroyed, if the radar is not working it will be destroyed all the more.

[PSih2097]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

In this case, the ability to fight plays a small role. If the radar is working, it will be destroyed, if the radar is not working it will be destroyed all the more.

I don’t know what the Armenians did in the classroom on tactics (maybe they slept / as an option) any air defense missile system of the BRD should not only cover itself with the SAM / air defense missile system MD, but also set false targets for missiles like "HARM" and something like that ...

[Dmitry Vladimirovich]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

In this case, the ability to fight plays a small role. If the radar is working, it will be destroyed, if the radar is not working it will be destroyed all the more.

Harpy is a subsonic diving drone, with a travel speed less than that of WWII aircraft.
The primary task of the district air defense commander is to ensure the protection of the radar and launchers of the air defense missile system from attacks of low-flying targets such as the KR and drones.
For this, ZRPK are used.
ZRPK in the optical range, are very effective against drones (they were found in exercises and in a combat situation, they hit drones up to 1,5 kg in weight on electric traction.
Harpy has an internal combustion engine and "glows" in the infrared range, like a Christmas tree.

This particular case of the defeat of the "bugs" antenna complex is a "relaxed" air defense leadership that has not learned any lessons from the previous days.

[The popuas]

One question: where was this complex? If on the territory of Armenia, then this is already an attack on the country, if in Karabakh, what was he doing there?

[the finish]

There was a complex on the territory of Armenia. All together pretended not to notice.

[Graz]

then it is necessary to strike at the airfield with Turkish f-16

[passerby]

Quote: Graz

then it is necessary to strike at the airfield with Turkish f-16

You need, you apply.

[Graz]

random passerby.
here and pass by a random passer-by, do not linger

[Incvizitor]

Let the Armenians do it, they have both aviation and Iskander.

[New Year day]

Quote: Graz

then it is necessary to strike at the airfield with Turkish f-16

What for?

[Overlock]

Quote: finish

All together pretended not to notice.

As well as shelling of Azerbaijani territory

[Deniso]

As an option, they provoke attacks on the territory of Armenia, they try to attract the CSTO.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: denis obuckov

As an option, they provoke attacks on the territory of Armenia, they try to attract the CSTO.

Who? Azerbaijan? Do they need it?

[Igor Semenov]

I meant the Armenians provoke strikes on their territory

[Overlock]

Quote: denis obuckov

As an option, they provoke attacks on the territory of Armenia, they try to attract the CSTO.

So, what is next? Iskander mochkanul on the territory of Armenia - where is the CSTO?

[askort154]

Popuas.... One question: where was this complex? If on the territory of Armenia, then this is already an attack on the country, if in Karabakh, what notes did you do?

Of course an interesting question ?! Two Russian military bases are located near Yerevan (Gyumri, 130 km away). There are S-300s, which cover the whole of Armenia. The question is - why does Armenia still have its S-300? All this looks like staged fakes. And still surprising, the complete "silence" of our Ministry of Defense on events.
in Karabakh. There are no comments. Only the Foreign Ministry is on the air.

[donavi49]

They cover all Armenia in murzilki. In practice, in a mountainous area, it is necessary to put forward a prepared complex on the site. Otherwise, he will be blind and deaf. Well, or what are you doing at VO, it's time for you to get a Nobel Prize for other physics or methods of radar, which are not affected by the terrain and obstacles.

They stood exactly on such a forward base. Already the satellites hurried up and took off.

[askort154]

donavi49 ..... Otherwise, he will be blind and deaf. Well, or what do you do at VO, it's time for you to receive a Nobel Prize for other physics or methods of radar, which are not affected by the terrain and obstacles.

Of course, you know this better than the specialists installing and determining the installation sites of air defense systems. You write to them, not to me.
Maybe they have "different physics" than yours. In my post, not statements, but doubts. And you flashed your "authority". Thanks ! I counted you before
a serious, repost provider from the Internet.

[askort154]

donavi49 .... In practice, in a mountainous area, it is necessary to put forward the prepared complex on the site. Otherwise, he will be blind and deaf.

And the specialists, without consulting you, stupidly install the S-300, in the mountainous area, especially along the gorges. The situation is not always operational and allows the complexes to be moved to "sites". There are other, more reliable options for this, and the launchers are not necessarily located next to the radar.

[Greenwood]

Quote: askort154

And still surprising, the complete "silence" of our Ministry of Defense on events.

Why does this surprise you? It seems that there have already been comments from Russian officials that Russia will not take part in the conflict, since it is legally taking place on the territory of sovereign Azerbaijan.

[askort154]

Greenwood .... Why does this surprise you? It seems that there have already been comments from Russian officials that Russia will not take part in the conflict, since it is legally taking place on the territory of sovereign Azerbaijan.

This is understandable. I am about the absence of any comments on the weapons used on both sides. Usually, about Donbass or Syria, there were always comments or reports from the Ministry of Defense. There is silence here. Complete neutrality.
Complete neutrality, despite the fact that both sides use Russian weapons, the prestige of which is not indifferent, not only for the Defense Ministry, but also for the manufacturer. When Israel framed our Il-20, the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense made a full report of the event, in a public domain. I hope you understand what I mean ?!

[Overlock]

Quote: askort154

Usually, about Donbass or Syria, always were comments or summaries from MO

... sometime. How much information is now? Everything passes and this will pass

Quote: askort154

Complete neutrality.

What to show? How are Russian weapons destroyed by Russian ones?
In fact, the main picture is that Turkish drones are destroying Russian equipment. Image losses are drawn

[Revolver]

If the Armenians put forward an air defense system in Karabakh, then they themselves stupidly substituted. And if he was soaked in the territory of Armenia, then Azerbaijan can say goodbye to the version "we are only liberating our sovereign territories." This already gives Russia a formal reason to intervene in accordance with the CSTO. It's another matter, but does Russia need it?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Nagan

If the Armenians put forward an air defense system in Karabakh, then they themselves stupidly substituted. And if he was soaked in the territory of Armenia, then Azerbaijan can say goodbye to the version "we are only liberating our sovereign territories." This already gives Russia a formal reason to intervene in accordance with the CSTO. It's another matter, but does Russia need it?

Don't be fooled

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnodar

Don't be fooled

That's what I mean.

[Igor Semenov]

Don't be fooled

So it is, but no. Because pursuing a policy of complete non-interference, one cannot remain a regional power.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Igor Semenov

Don't be fooled

So it is, but no. Because pursuing a policy of complete non-interference, one cannot remain a regional power.

Quite the opposite - it is necessary to encourage and punish)). Punish, incl. - inaction

[Overlock]

Quote: Nagan

This already gives Russia a formal reason to intervene in accordance with the CSTO.

Gives nothing as it

Quote: Nagan

Does Russia need?

[Prahlad]

Serious blow to the reputation of this complex

[Sid2014]

The 300 has no reputation !!! Only videos on TV.

[Deniso]

The S-300P or PS are very old modifications, they would have pissed them off anyway. Azerbaijanis would have to strain a little more and that's all.

[limlim]

What does reputation have to do with it? Any weapon will be destroyed if it is not used for its intended purpose or not used at all.

[New Year day]

Quote: Limlim

Any weapon will be destroyed if it is not used for its intended purpose or not used at all.

Usually full name. these slobs do not indicate in the reports

[Lexus]

Dear Sylvester ,
on the other hand, they "part" with receiving awards.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Prahlad

Serious blow to the reputation of this complex

No more serious than a blow to the reputation of the Patriot destroyed by the Houthis in Saudi Arabia.

[Shahno]

Well, in principle, when the C 300 was delivered to Syria, our Prime Minister immediately said that this problem can be solved. How, we are now observing ... The vulnerability of such complexes is simply very high when the enemy uses a kamikaze attack from the air. It doesn't matter which country the air defense system belongs to and where it is produced.

[Shahno]

Yes, there are many downsides. Without any justification.
Let's say I'm just so dumb ..
Dear minusers, show me examples of the successful operation of the C 300 systems against drones. And without any secret information from closed polygons ... just indicate the place and time of the clash ..
I know about a debugged system using all the capabilities of the most modern tools. Handicraft UAVs clearly cannot break through the defenses of Russia's iconic base in Syria ..

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Shahno

examples of successful operation of C 300 systems against drones

You can simplify the question: give examples of the successful operation of the C300 principle? Successful air defense actions against a professional army?

[Voentorg]

No weapon will help you if the leadership is draining the war.
Pashinyan is the national hero of Azerbaijan.

[the finish]

In the photo, Pashinyan's son is at the front! In which casino is Aliyev's son?

[Voentorg]

It doesn't say anything.
I also have pictures where I participated in the battles of the BC.
VotoShop is omnipotent.

[Voentorg]

Maybe he wants to ruin his son?
Or he “fights” in the rear like Poroshenko.
This is cheap propaganda.

[Oquzyurd]

The late Aliyev elder, his son, President Aliyev is a politician of the highest class. And his son will be the same. We are millions, and they are rare. We cherish them. Pashinyan, his level is no longer a secret. Rather, his son did not go far from him, since his raised by my father.

[Greenwood]

Quote: finish

In which casino is Aliyev's son?

Is Aliyev's son a career soldier to be at the front? Or has a total mobilization been announced in Azerbaijan so that Aliyev's son has a compelling need to go to the front?

[Alena-Baku]

Pashinyan's son in Marseilles.

[atalef]

Quote: finish

In the photo, Pashinyan's son is at the front! In which casino is Aliyev's son?

what does it matter ?
"Winners are not judged" and "Vae victis!" - "Woe to the vanquished!"
that’s it.

[Vadim237]

The benefits at the front from this son of Pashinyan, just as much from the Armenian camouflage of equipment and their positions, is a little more than nichrome.

[loki565]

Destroyed radar is an obsolete campaign ST-68

[Vita vko]

that the air defense system was amazed

The video shows the 19Ж6 radar (in common people "bug") of Ukrainian production. This outdated radar has nothing to do with the S-300 air defense system.
In general, it is not clear who this fake is intended for.
It looks like the Armenian-Azerbaijani informational "battles" have slipped into complete informational marasmus.
In this regard, J. Kadmi correctly expressed himself about the prospects of the nationalist and clan groups of the former Union republics and the former Russian Empire to build independent states.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Vita VKO

It looks like the Armenian-Azerbaijani informational "battles" have slipped into complete informational marasmus.

I liked it here better ...

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Kedmi almost jumps out of his pants, so he wants to involve Russia in this war for the sake of Israel's interests.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Kedmi almost jumps out of his pants, so he wants to involve Russia in this war for the sake of Israel's interests.

a dialogue between two Jews about what Russia needs to do when Armenians and Azerbaijanis shove each other on the scoreboard - it's very nice.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Well, after all, we must pay tribute to Kedmi, he honestly said that you should not trust the well-wishers from the outside. I think Russia should take advantage of this advice of a wise old Jew, at least in relation to himself.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Kedmi almost jumps out of his pants, so he wants to involve Russia in this war for the sake of Israel's interests.

And what is Israel's interest in Russia getting involved in a war against friendly Azerbaijan? ))))

[IS-80_RVGK2]

And who said that it is obligatory in the war with Azerbaijan? Or do you want to say that Turkey is so friendly to Israel that its ambitions do not bother Israel in any way?

[Krasnodar]

Turkey? Under Erdogan - even hostile, but here the Jews give all the work to do to the Sultan himself - he himself jumps. A very ambitious and tough guy who has brought down his own economy.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Sitting and waiting until the corpse of your enemy floats down the river is about China, not about Israel. And so yes. Erdogan is really crazy. Looks like he decided that he was an exceptional favorite of fate.

[Krasnodar]

Israel only acts under a specific threat)) So - there are diplomatic relations with Turkey, the trade turnover is more or less normal, you can live

[IS-80_RVGK2]

So this is a specific threat. You can live who can argue. Here, after all, the main task is not to allow life to become impossible.

[Krasnodar]

Once again - as long as there are diplomatic relations and trade, then everything is ok. When they are not there - boom to see

[IS-80_RVGK2]

You may be yes. But you are not the government of Israel. You don't have to think about that.

[Krasnodar]

I'm talking about the behavioral norms of the government of Israel They always try to avoid conflict until the very end. any conflict is a loss of money and people, which is not beneficial to any Israeli government because of the existing system of elections and government. Everything is arranged differently there: roughly - a bunch of parties, the lion's share of them are sectoral. To create a government, you need a lot of money to attract representatives of different strata of the population (social sphere, basically). Any conflict is money yok. Therefore...)))

[Igor Semenov]

Dear Krasnodar, are you sure that Kedmi is friendly to Israel?

[Krasnodar]

Kedmi? He is a private person)) But if I understood the essence of the issue correctly - in Israel he is not an authoritative expert, local neo-Russian speakers simply do not know him it seems to me that he works part-time with Solovyov, so I would not count on the objectivity and non-bias of his opinion

[Shahno]

I learned about Kedmi for the first time on the Military Review ...

[Overlock]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Kedmi almost jumps out of his pants, so he wants to involve Russia in this war for the sake of Israel's interests.

He has long been engaged in incitement with Solovyov. Another fruit

[figwam]

Quote: Vita VKO

The video shows the radar 19Ж6 (in the common people "bug")

Yes it turns out it is, it is.

Three-coordinate radar station centimeter-decimeter range 19Zh6 (ST-68U)

[alexmach]

Three-coordinate radar station centimeter-decimeter range 19Zh6 (ST-68U)

And the Israeli comrades have already celebrated the victory above :)

[Olddetractor]

If not for the Americans, Turkish Hollywood would be called Yesilcham. Today we are watching videos of a studio that seems to be "no". And yes - this is ST-68, possibly ST-68UM

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: Vita VKO

The video shows the radar 19Zh6 (in common people "bug") Ukrainian production

there is such a thing. A little that they say there is nothing Ukrainian (since it was released in the USSR, just in the USSR)
but when you need something immediately Ukrainian.
This station is still a Soviet-made enterprise of the Ukrainian SSR. It can be transferred by anyone. Most of the operators of this station were in the Russian Federation.
I have nothing against the name of its Ukrainian (Producer is now Iskra Zaporozhye)
but I always see the nuance of the names, if anyone is principally.To Ukraine is, then it is not and was not ... when necessary.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Niel-le-Calais

This station is still Soviet-made enterprises of the Ukrainian SSR

I agree. But this radar 19zh6 is excellent rubbish, so it's better to let it be Ukrainian. In theory, it was interesting to study it, as an engineering incident with a complex of stupid decisions of people who had just got acquainted with digital technologies. Even from the factory it was rare that all the systems would work for her. Personally, I was very glad that she was not in our units.

[Graz]

and the Armenians will no longer transfer such expensive equipment, they will still love

[yfast]

Quote: finish

There was a complex on the territory of Armenia. All together pretended not to notice.

An attack on an object on the territory of a CSTO member? What is Putin, got drunk with grief?

[Graz]

and what has to do with Putin, firstly, the Armenians themselves must ask and justify their requests, and secondly, not only Russia is included in the ODKB

[Overlock]

Quote: Graz

secondly, not only Russia is included in the ODKB

And Kazakhstan is for Azerbaijan! To fight with them, or what?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: yfast

An attack on an object on the territory of a CSTO member? What is Putin, got drunk with grief?

Do you want to fight? Together with the fighting couch?

[Kart]

Quote: yfast

An attack on an object on the territory of a CSTO member? What is Putin, got drunk with grief?

Where did you decide from? Propaganda?
Moreover, there is an opinion, and not only mine - this is not s-300 at all, even outdated.

[Cowbra]

Let Soros ask for help)))

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Quote: yfast

An attack on an object on the territory of a CSTO member?

Are you sure you are on site?

[tralflot1832]

Noticed the military noticed Nagra at the last moment and scratched from the locator, but did not seem to have time. the corner of the hangar, probably alive. How did she know that Nagru is death?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Very unpleasant sound.

[D16]

Very unpleasant sound.

Her screw pitch is not adjustable. Therefore, in a dive, it spins up with an oncoming stream and yells at the entire district.

[sgapich]

Quote: D16

Her screw pitch is not adjustable. Therefore, in a dive, it spins up with an oncoming stream and yells at the entire district.

That is, by analogy with the siren on the Ju-87?

[D16]

Something like that. Only on the Stuck were these sirens used for a specific purpose, and on the Harpy there is no RSh screw solely for reasons of economy.

[private person]

At this rate, the Armenians will soon have nothing to fight with.

[KARAKURT777]

[/ quote] The whole question is where exactly the S-300 air defense system was located, which was destroyed. If these are the territories of Armenia, then it turns out that an act of aggression was carried out against this state.
[Quote]

Yeah, an act of aggression, I would say an act of violence)))
And what about the act of aggression, during which 20% of the territory was stolen from Azerbaijanis?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

By the way, where did Azerbaijanis come from in the Caucasus?

[Rubina]

Azerbaijanis and Turks appeared from Altai. We left there, and the Russians came. From the banks of the Dnieper right up to Altai. So everyone took a walk. Any questions?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Since you all know perfectly well why this cry about territories? If you can't protect, then it's not yours.

[Rubina]

And for what minus something, you can find out. Are the Turks not from Altai? Altai is not Russia? Or Russian civilization was not born in Kievan Rus on the banks of the Dnieper?

[Overlock]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

By the way, where did Azerbaijanis come from in the Caucasus?

Will you go this far? Is it okay that Crimea once belonged to the Ottoman Empire?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

I have a good Soviet education. I even know that once it did not belong to her at all, and in general it belonged to many people.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Overlock

Is it okay that Crimea once belonged to the Ottoman Empire?

in general, it was Roman before them, and before them the Greeks sat there, and he did not belong to Turkey, but was a vassal. the Turks were not sitting there, but the Tatars ...

[tlauicol]

More like Harop

[KARAKURT777]

This is HAROP, just clever people conjure))

[Voentorg]

Armenians are great wars, gods of war.

[Yurahip]

Yes, he perfectly sees the C 300, it was not for nothing that an Armenian operator jumped out of it a second before the explosion, but apparently he did not have time to press the button or forgot on which page in the instructions it was drawn.
And sorry for the dog ...

[tralflot1832]

Don't worry about the dog, I ran so low and low behind the hangar. Unlike the operator, he was not lucky. I saw this picture in the original from an Israeli drone, I was interested in the fate of everyone. The military man ran away from his post rather from the sound of an approaching ammunition.

[Operator]

Joint aggression of Israel and Turkey against Armenia, however.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Against cute and cute Russophobic Armenia.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Operator

Joint aggression of Israel and Turkey against Armenia, however.

of Russia
Turkey
Of Azerbaijan
Israel
Belarus
Ukraine
Czech Republic
Against:
NKR
Armenia
of Russia
Yugoslavia
the USSR
That's right, judging by the suppliers of goods

[Abdula]

Quote: Sergey Karasev

This is how the co-forums from Israel are ardently involved in the topic.

Yes, now they will start pounding themselves with their heels in the chest, reveling in the steepness of their weapons and the squalor of ours, that Mark Pekarsky with his ensemble nervously turns on the sidelines.

they don't need to do this for them their weapons speak, and speaks not badly, I think even more countries will want to buy such weapons

[genisis]

Quote: Livonetc

This is how the co-forums from Israel are ardently involved in the topic.

Yesterday a co-forum member from Israel expressed this idea more precisely.

[Professor]

Quote: genisis

Quote: Livonetc

This is how the co-forums from Israel are ardently involved in the topic.

Yesterday a co-forum member from Israel expressed this idea more precisely.

Well? Has Armenia ceased to be a Judenfrey since yesterday?

[Gavrohs]

It's all nonsense! Then Russia will deliver both С400 and С500 - money in bulk, for friends (it has always been like this) !

[shultz21070]

The drone is interesting because it can be controlled from the territory of any state, even from your couch.

[tralflot1832]

There, not only Jewish comrades were noted. There, the Ukrainian Mriya was also visited by roofing felts from the Czech Republic or from Slovakia. They also have Soviet goods in bulk.

[Niel-le-Calais]

Quote: tralflot1832

There, Ukrainian Mriya was visited by roofing felts from the Czech Republic or from Slovakia

Then they will be thrown into the AZ by the company generator
GS Engineering & Construction (South Korea)
which AN 225 delivered to Yerevan on August 14, 2009 ..
An Antonov Airlines An-225 Mriya aircraft delivered a 174-ton generator for a new power plant from Frankfurt (Germany) to Yerevan (Armenia), which was transported together with a special frame, and the total weight of the cargo was 187,6 tons.
Maybe an 22?
An-22A heavy cargo plane (carrying capacity up to 60 tons) took off from the Heydar Aliyev Airport (Baku) at 11:10 and landed at Gostomel near Kiev at about 15:XNUMX.
On October 5, this plane took off at 10:30 am in an unknown direction from the small airport Vatri, located 100 km from Paris. He flew there on October 4 at 15 o'clock from Leipzig. It is not known how the plane got from Vatri to Baku, since the flight tracking services did not see it at that time, it is possible that the aircraft's identification system transmitter was turned off. (We turn on the conspiracy theory)
The press service of Antonov Airlines told Focus that under the terms of the contract with the customer, they could not disclose information about the nature of the cargo. But it was clarified that the customer was foreign.
Given the sequence of airports visited by the plane, it can be assumed that at least from Vatri to Baku, he flew with cargo.
You need to ask Macron that there they have loaded the "Soviet" ... Apparently there is a lot of "Soviet" in France.

[roofing hedgehog]

conclusion, these unfinished people should sell wooden copies of modern weapons .. there will be one ..

[Sanichsan]

Quote: roofing hedgehog

there will be one sense ..

well fig knows .. the Chinese won 11 Indians with sticks and nails nailed recently

[pereselenec]

And all these vaunted S-300/400/500 at least once in the entire history of their existence shot down at least one real target in a real battle?

[TatarinSSSR]

This is already a serious blow to Russian weapons. At parades and in brainwashers of the "military acceptance" type, Russian air defense systems are so the best in the world ... But as in a real battle against a modern enemy - because torches are burning, helpless and useless.

[Fungus]

You do not say. The shells of a bunch of Turkish, Israeli and American drummers were shot down. C300 was not covered at all and was not deployed. From 400 they buy for 15 billion dollars. So military experts who buy Russian weapons are better versed in the matter than sofa ones) Several countries of the BV have also said they will buy new shells. The countries have not yet been advertised.

[Overlock]

Quote: Fungus

The shells of a bunch of Turkish, Israeli and American drummers were shot down.

Clarify, people with these weapons. How many Carapaces were burned in Libya?

[TatarinSSSR]

During hostilities, no one cares - covered or not, deployed or not. Air defense missile systems and radars were destroyed from the air, from the very zone that they are supposed to defend. Dot. How many drones there were shot down and whose - that's another matter, and does not affect anything. Shot down one - another will arrive. The operator remains the same, in a safe place. You don't need to learn something new. People do not die in drones. And here they die. And new calculations must be prepared. If a country sells sophisticated weapons to other countries - and does not train, does not control their use, then such a weapon and such a supplier is worth a penny.

[yfast]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Do you want to fight? Together with the fighting couch?

Yes, I'm ready to fight right from the couch, with some kind of drone. Or, as a last resort, from a chair.
But only for their homeland. So let them do normal drones with secure control and communication channels for sofa craftsmen.

[tarakan]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: finish

Then probably something like that will work too ...

Take the log out of the eye. Who supplied the main weapon to Azerbaijan? Or did you do it for beautiful eyes?

Aliyev officially said that the main supplier of weapons is Russia, both for LIVE money and in tank battles, by no means the Merkava participates

[tarakan]

Quote: Sergey Karasev

This is how the co-forums from Israel are ardently involved in the topic.

Yes, now they will start pounding themselves with their heels in the chest, reveling in the steepness of their weapons and the squalor of ours, that Mark Pekarsky with his ensemble nervously turns on the sidelines.

I don’t care about the nationality, but in the entom discussion, Jewish friends are arguing more "soberly" and objectively.

[tarakan]

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Kedmi almost jumps out of his pants, so he wants to involve Russia in this war for the sake of Israel's interests.

And what is Israel's interest in Russia getting involved in a war against friendly Azerbaijan? ))))

You are a plus, but I suppose Iran is to blame on the border of hostilities. In case of a big mess, it will have to harness.

[tarakan]

Quote: pereselenec

And all these vaunted S-300/400/500 at least once in the entire history of their existence shot down at least one real target in a real battle?

Go do your lessons "remotely"

[tarakan]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

This is already a serious blow to Russian weapons. At parades and in brainwashers of the "military acceptance" type, Russian air defense systems are so the best in the world ... But as in a real battle against a modern enemy - because torches are burning, helpless and useless.

Base in Syria, not a single breakthrough (the first is not considered) with competent combination and management

[tralflot1832]

While we are here analyzing the effectiveness of Israeli drones, we missed the news. Finally, Orion attack UAVs have entered service in Russia. So far, three units with transport and command vehicles. The ice has broken! Hurray gentlemen, comrades, bar!

[locator]

Quote: tralflot1832

While we are here analyzing the effectiveness of Israeli drones, we missed the news. Finally, Orion attack UAVs have entered service in Russia. So far, three units with transport and command vehicles. The ice has broken! Hurray gentlemen, comrades, bar!

It would be necessary to test, like Israel on our borders, etc.

[Overlock]

If these are the territories of Armenia, then it turns out that an act of aggression was carried out against this state.

Armenian Iskanders have been destroyed on the territory of Armenia, the Armenians are shelling the territory of Azerbaijan, and what of that? War is war

[Adimius38]

This is how they beat the best of the best without batting an eye. all this is a pile of metal and C-300 and C-400 without corresponding cover complexes and, most importantly, all this was probably supplied and set up by Russia. So, comrades, a fiasco, a fiasco. It is worth drawing conclusions.

[Shiden]

A good comment only as they say "A voice crying in the wilderness" you read the comments again started the old record about the curvature of users of super weapons. So here are the conclusions, there is a true reinforced concrete argument yadrenbaton but better so that it remains only a fantasy.

[A009]

Of course it's worth. And especially about people who have not even read the previous posts, but they said their opinion in a hurry. "If only"
Does it bother you, as it was previously written that this radar does not apply to the S-300?

[Shiden]

Sorry for my lack of tact, I can answer you. In your opinion, what is the purpose of the radar, and in peacetime to control the airspace, but in wartime it is an air defense system which includes both the SAM and Aviation. And correctly the comrade wrote the commanders and operators were not taught by the Marseans.

[locator]

Earlier, some media reported that Israel donated to Azerbaijan a mobile complex "Harpy" (Harpy) manufactured by the Israeli company IAI for testing in combat conditions.

Ok so ... Can Lebanon or Iran give something for testing ..?

[Overlock]

Quote: Maz

the weapons that Russia sold to both sides did not violate the parity between Baku and Yerevan.

Come on. The only difference is that Armenia bought in krkdit, and Azerbaijan - for currency.
If the Armenians had money (they were greedy, the diaspora was huge), they would have bought everything from Israel. They rested on their laurels, and the enemy prepared. Who is smarter and who?

[locator]

Quote: Overlock

Quote: Maz

the weapons that Russia sold to both sides did not violate the parity between Baku and Yerevan.

Come on. The only difference is that Armenia bought in krkdit, and Azerbaijan - for currency.
If the Armenians had money (they were greedy, the diaspora was huge), they would have bought everything from Israel. They rested on their laurels, and the enemy prepared. Who is smarter and who?

As I understood from the members of the forum .. Jews and Armenians have mutual jealousy, who is cooler and more genocated ..)))) So there is such a massacre .. The Armenians will not forgive it, definitely.

[Overlock]

Quote: locman

.. Jews and Armenians have mutual jealousy

Hot blood

Quote: locman

The Armenians will not forgive this, definitely.

Ararat was forgiven and it will be forgiven

[Krasnodar]

- Armenians are cooler
- What?
- Than the Jews

[locator]

In general, Armenia has a trump card, the Russian Iskander, which have not yet been used, and as far as I know, Azerbaijan has no resistance against them.
Unless Israel also sells to Aliyev the "iron dome", for which Azerbaijanis will pay for 100 years ..

[NTD]

Quote: locman

Unless Israel also sells to Aliyev the "iron dome", for which Azerbaijanis will pay for 100 years ..

The cost of the Iron Dome is $ 50 million per battery. Do you think Azerbaijan will not have 50 lamas?))))

[Astra55]

Listen, if tomorrow news comes that all the newest Su-30s of the Armenian Air Force are covered with a copper basin, I won't be surprised at all

[andreykolesov123]

Raids of men began in Armenia. The Armenians shout: "Russians help," while they themselves are trying to sneak away from the front.
https://www.yaplakal.com/forum3/st/25/topic2183509.html

[Vadim237]

It is clear - no one wants to become lumps in a trench or burn out in vehicles with 100% probability.

[svoit]

Quote: andreykolesov123

Roundups of men began in Armenia.

It's time to remember

[NI1]

Once again, our "brothers" have lost Russian weapons that have no analogues in the world. Let's summarize this incident:
1. The Jews are to blame. They sold too cunning weapons to our friends who beat our friends.
2. The Azerbaijanis are to blame, who bought a cunning weapon with their own money and beat our other friends to whom we gave our weapons on credit (read "donated").
3. The Armenians are to blame, who, most likely, are not "brothers" for us, but nevertheless they are fastened, one faith, history, all deeds. These friends just do not know how to use our unparalleled ...
4. The State Department is to blame, which always sticks its nose everywhere and everywhere. Well, how can we do without them?!?
5 ...
6. Anyone is to blame, but not us. )))

P.S. on the territory of Armenia, the S-300, which was on alert, was slammed. The pawn cut down the rook. But everyone pretends that nothing happened and everything is fine. We are looking for the guilty. And Jews and Azerbaijanis are great. Anyway. Cheap and angry removed an expensive complex on enemy territory. And no one squeaked. They can.

[Nastia makarova]

100 times already said that this is a fake !!! this antenna is not related to the s-300

[military_cat]

Since when has the 36D6 (19Zh6) radar not related to the S-300? It is quite old, yes, but the S-300 is not to say that it is very new (since 1978 in service).

[rotfuks]

In general, the situation is extremely cynical. It is as if Russia had betrayed a battery of Dagger missiles to Syria for testing in combat conditions. And the Syrians inadvertently would have suppressed the vaunted "Iron Dome" in Israel. Imagine what a howl would go up in the media. And then they hit the territory of Armenia and everyone keeps quiet. How does this situation differ from 1941, when Soviet airfields were bombed near Kiev even before the declaration of war?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: rotfuks

And the Syrians inadvertently would have suppressed the vaunted Iron Dome in Israel.

and the Syrians did it, don't you know? roofing felts in 2017 roofing felts in 2018 ... from 2 degrees they hit the command posts in the Golan Heights and the vaunted "iron dome" broke through and the targets were hit

[Igor Semenov]

The whole question is where exactly the S-300 air defense system was located, which was destroyed. If these are the territories of Armenia, then it turns out that an act of aggression was carried out against this state.

And if this is not the territory of Armenia, then it does not work. Again the damned unknown!