New "truce" in Karabakh: sides accuse each other of shelling

Despite the new ceasefire, agreed by Armenia and Azerbaijan with the mediation of the United States, the parties continue to accuse each other of violating the agreements. According to the latest data, the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry accused the Armenian military of shelling the territory of the Agjabedi region adjacent to Nagorno-Karabakh.

On October 26 at 11:20 (10:20 Moscow time), the Armenian armed forces, violating the new humanitarian ceasefire, fired on the territory of the Agjabedi region from artillery mounts

- it is spoken in the message of military department.

In turn, the Armenian Defense Ministry announced artillery shelling of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces on the positions of the defense army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic in the northeastern section of the contact line. In addition, it is reported that Azerbaijani troops launched air strikes on the city of Martuni in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Meanwhile, the ceasefire was confirmed in Yerevan and Baku. According to Pashinyan, despite individual provocations by the Azerbaijani military, the regime is generally respected. Aliyev, in turn, stated that he had instructed the Azerbaijani Armed Forces not to succumb to provocations and not to respond to violations of the ceasefire by the Armenian side.

The President of Azerbaijan stressed that Baku will go to the end in the "Karabakh issue" and said that Armenia did not provide a schedule for the withdrawal of its troops from the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, and this "does not suit" Azerbaijan.

Aliyev also allowed the use of Turkish F-16 fighters in the military conflict "in the event of external aggression against Azerbaijan."

Let us remind that earlier Yerevan and Baku, with the mediation of the USA, agreed on a new humanitarian truce. American President Donald Trump sent congratulations to the President of Azerbaijan and the Prime Minister of Armenia on this occasion.

Congratulations to Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan and President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev, who have just agreed to observe the ceasefire, which comes into force at midnight. Many lives will be saved. In connection with the conclusion of the deal, I am proud of my team: Secretary of State Michael Pompeo, Stephen Bigan and the National Security Council at the White House!

- wrote Trump on Twitter

Comments

[g1v2]

In general, both sides now need to regroup. The front line has changed a lot. New positions must be strengthened. BK toss again. Replenishment lead. Azeri to create new operational bases, and it is possible to rotate units on the line of contact, giving them rest. Although, of course, everyone wants to move the front line before the armistice as it is convenient for him.

[Tatyana]

While in this interethnic conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh Erdogan himself with his radical Islamist party in Turkey will be personally interested on the side of Azerbaijan, who ignited this war in Azerbaijan now, the war between Armenians and Azerbaijanis cannot be stopped.

Erdogan's madness cannot be stopped. Erdogan and Jerusalem declared TURKISH!

Aliyev is completely under the influence of Erdogan with his Turkish intervention in the war in Azerbaijan not only by the Turkish command in the General Staff of Azerbaijan, but by the manpower of Erdogan's pro-Turkish mercenaries from Syria, etc.

“Get us out of this swamp” call from a Syrian mercenary to Turkey • Oct 21. Feb 2020

[Mayor lee]

Things are good? What the hell are you talking about?))

[Tatyana]

No nonsense! You yourself do not know anything, you do not see anything and are blinded by the pro-Turkish propaganda.

[g1v2]

Tatyana, this conflict arose long after they learned about Erdogan's existence. Armenians and Azeris slaughtered each other without the Turks. Another thing is that it is beneficial for us to demonize the Sultan in the public space. On the one hand, we take Aliyev out of the blow. Like getting under the influence of a bad guy. On the other hand, we remind the Armenians that striving to the west is of course beautiful, but only we can save them from the Sultan. All in all, Erdogan is the perfect bad cop.

[Tatyana]

Quote: g1v2

this conflict arose long after they learned about Erdogan's existence. Armenians and Azeris slaughtered each other without the Turks.

And now they are killing each other with the help of the Turks and thanks to the radical Islamist Erdogan and his Turkish radical pro-Islamist Nazi ruling party. Namely.

In the summer of 2020, Turkish generals at the joint Turkish-Azerbaijani exercises in Azerbaijan planned an offensive on the NKR in Nagorno-Karabakh, and even for the future of offensives on the NKR left in Azerbaijan all their Turkish offensive equipment, ammunition and their Turkish military commanders necessary for this.

Moreover, it should be borne in mind that the career military of Azerbaijan - mainly ethnic Azerbaijanis - have also been trained in military universities in Turkey over the past few years. With what "patriotic" Islamist mentality they returned from Turkey to Azerbaijan, one can imagine.
As a result, in this way, Erdogan and among the military Armed Forces in Azerbaijan itself have essentially their own foreign - pro-Turkish - agents of influence on changing the independence and self-determination of Azerbaijan itself as a state. At the same time, this influence of Turkey and the most radical Islamist Erdogan in Azerbaijan continues to grow and strengthen.

That is why not everything that Aliyev says can really be believed! Aliyev may no longer completely control the situation in his country at the front and completely depend on Erdogan.

[Tatyana]

Quote: g1v2

It is beneficial for us to demonize the Sultan in the public space.

The fact of the matter is that it is not beneficial for Russia to demonize Sultan Erdogan and Turkey. For Russia is building a nuclear power plant and a Turkish stream in Turkey.
Erdogan perfectly understands this circumstance - that in this regard Russia is HOSTAGE with him and with the ruling party of Turkey.
And so Erdogan becomes impudent day by day in the international arena - both in relation to Russia, and in relation to the EU, and in relation to the CA countries!

Quote: g1v2

On the other hand, we remind the Armenians that striving to the west is of course beautiful, but only we can save them from the Sultan.

Pashinyan is a puppet of the Anglo-Saxons, along with his entire government of Armenia. Pashinyan is also not an independent political figure.
Therefore, in Armenia, Russia is also a political hostage of the United States.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: g1v2

All in all, Erdogan is the perfect bad cop.

From time to time I scare the local Bulgarians with them when they here once again begin to play "the blues of the lost shores."

[figwam]

Congratulations to Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan and President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev, who have just agreed to abide by the ceasefire

Did Erdogan sign it?

[Daniil Konovalenko]

wrote Trump on Twitter

What Trump wrote, Marcon will soon be writing on Twitter. Apparently Aliyev is doing better than Pashinyan's ...

[dzvero]

Trump earns points before the elections. But in general, the light elves are not interested in showdowns between goblins and orcs ... purely bargaining cards in global poker ... until the forester came to look at the talking dog ...

[Daniil Konovalenko]

USA, a member of the Minsk Group, which includes Russia, USA, France for the settlement of the conflict in Karabakh. Russia has already reconciled, it did not work out, the USA reconciled, it did not work out, France remained next in line ... And the forester will not come, he has a lot of things to do in his forestry.

[dzvero]

France actually recalled the ambassador.
Will the forester come or not, x3, but he definitely moved - in Idlib, on the very border, he rolled out the base and sent a hundred militants to the gurias. Plus a couple of Sultan fuel trucks burned. Hints ...

[Daniil Konovalenko]

In Azerbaijan? This will not prevent the parties from hitting the road to the city of Paris ... Moulin Rouge, the Efeille tower, Montmartre, Champs Elysees, you know Idlib - and I say that the forester has business in the forestry, the barmaley must be swept out of the Syrian territory, and Idlib must not be left to Erdogan. No hints, everything is according to plan .. It's a sin not to take advantage of this situation, and most importantly, you can't really make any claims.

[dzvero]

In Turkey. Because of Erdogan's statement about Macron.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

The conflict is between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Turkey is not a participant in the fire, it only throws wood into the fire. And then one of the French deputies, just now proposed to exclude Turkey from NATO ... So we can still see the warring parties in Paris ..

[dzvero]

The conflict is de jure intra-Azerbaijani. Armenia only represents the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic and I hope they have enough intelligence not to go directly into it.
You can see the sides in Paris, but not now - Macron is very offended by Erdogan. And Aliyev will go without the Sultan only if his arms are twisted. Which, by the way, is slowly being planned.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

What's wrong in my comments? .. The pears are the same, only on the other side ..

[dzvero]

Everything is so, the pears are the same, but the vinaigrette is worse than the Syrian one ... The East in all its glory ... In my memory, that the USA, Russia and France are in the same team, so that the rest keep quiet ...

[Asad]

Trump's electorate hardly understands where Armenia and Azerbaijan are, so he blurted out for the importance of his person, well, to cheer up the Armenian diaspora!

[1976AG]

And from whom does Aliyev expect an attack? Considering that he expects to cope with Armenia himself, does he warn Russia? If so, then he was in vain. Although Erdogan's example is apparently contagious ..

[Oquzyurd]

Have you forgotten Iran? They are pulling up their forces to the borders of Azerbaijan.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: 1976AG

And from whom does Aliyev expect an attack? Considering that he expects to cope with Armenia himself, does he warn Russia? If so, then he was in vain. Although Erdogan's example is apparently contagious ..

Persians

[Larch]

Meanwhile, the ceasefire was confirmed in Yerevan and Baku

I do not think for long!

Azerbaijani President stressed that Baku will go to the end in the "Karabakh issue"

It is clearly not profitable for Azerbaijan to stop there.

Donald Trump sent congratulations to the President of Azerbaijan and the Prime Minister of Armenia on this occasion.

States are still those "peacemakers"!

[Deniso]

What is the count

[NTD]

While Pasha is in power, Azerbaijan needs to keep up :) Will such a second chance still awaken, God only knows

[The Siberian barber]

Yes, there are all sorts of soros, with cans of gasoline are))
Playing on the ambitions of various newly-minted sultans))
Pure "uzhos"))

[fn34440]

So far, the Armenians are not going to leave NKR. They can only be knocked out by force. And this force in this situation is not the army of Azerbaijan, but the Turkish armed forces, which are capable of being drawn into the war in Nagorno-Karabakh.

It was Erdogan who gave Aliyev determination to unleash the current hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh, who, as one might assume, promised military support to Azerbaijan in case Russia intervenes in the conflict. Figuratively speaking, the Turkish military presence must tie Moscow's hands and leave Armenia alone with Azerbaijan and Turkey standing behind it.
If Erdogan succeeds in fulfilling his plan in Nagorno-Karabakh, then he will be able to oust Russia from the territory of the South Caucasus, and this is part of his global plan for the revival of the Ottoman Empire, which he dreams of and is trying to implement. The creation of a Turkic enclave in this region is only one part of it. Azerbaijan is practically completely pro-Turkish, the poorly concealed Turkish expansion in Georgia is obvious, and Nagorno-Karabakh is considered by Erdogan to be his sphere of influence.
If Russia does not give an unequivocal rebuff, it will become vulnerable in this area, and not only in it.
We will be buried.
However, they have already begun.

[NTD]

Quote: fn34440

So far, the Armenians are not going to leave NKR. They can only be knocked out by force. And this force in this situation is not the army of Azerbaijan, but the Turkish

It's ridiculous to read such serious lines when they are not true. Azerbaijan is already near the Lachin corridor and Gubadli has already been taken from the south. Yes, so many drones do not fly, because there is almost no equipment left and 1000 recognized killed by the Armenians. Per month.

Quote: fn34440

It was Erdogan who gave Aliyev determination to unleash the current hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh, who, as one might assume, promised military support to Azerbaijan in case Russia intervenes in the conflict. Figuratively speaking, the Turkish military presence must tie Moscow's hands and leave Armenia alone with Azerbaijan and Turkey standing behind it.

Maybe!!! But imagine for a moment what Aliyev put on Putin and with Erdogan decided to hunt in his royal lands. Do you think Russia will be silent? Putin has quite a few levers of pressure on Azerbaijan and making a war on such a scale without a treaty with Putin is a deadly venture.

Quote: fn34440

If Erdogan succeeds in fulfilling his plan in Nagorno-Karabakh, then he will be able to push Russia out of the territory of the South Caucasus.

How Erdogan will oust Russia. From Armenia? Do you think Armenia can exist without Russia? Yes, for one sidelong glance they will cut off her access to Iran. And that's it !!!! Armenia will not exist. It is in the interests of Armenia not to bite the feeding hand. And feed there from Rashntudei to asphalt pavers and the market. Apricots will be sold in Greece. Do you think Azerbaijanis closed markets for Armenians with apricots in summer without the permission of the Kremlin? Everything needs permission from the relevant organizations. Chechens and Dagestanis will Erdogan give a better life than Putin? Georgians are already ousted. And Russia cannot quarrel with Azerbaijan. Both have huge interests. So the question arises, a vassal biting his hand (three times) or strong ties with secular Azerbaijan. And it is economically profitable.

In general, in one word. You don’t think Putin is a fool.

[Oquzyurd]

President Ilham Aliyev has published a list of Armenian equipment destroyed and taken as a trophy from September 27 to the present day, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev said in his address to the people.

The head of state noted that 252 tanks were destroyed, 53 tanks were taken as a war trophy: “In general, Armenia is deprived of 305 tanks. However, they still have tanks. Look how many tanks did they have? Infantry fighting vehicles - 50 were destroyed, 29 were taken as trophies. 79 in total. Shells of various calibers: 251 were destroyed, 24 were taken as war spoils. Destroyed 61 mortars, 45 taken as trophies. A total of 106. A total of 275 howitzers. 53 anti-tank weapons, 82 Grad installations, 2 Uraganes, 2 MLRS, 1 TOS were destroyed. Anti-aircraft missile systems: 4 TOP, about 40 "OSA", 4 KUB and 1 "Circle", 2 "S-125".

6 S-300 launchers, one of the most expensive launchers, were destroyed. 1 radar station, 1 locator. The price is known, everyone can calculate. Destroyed 2 operational-tactical missile systems "Elbrus" and 1 "Tochka-U". 231 trucks were destroyed, of which 20 were with ammunition. 173 trucks were taken as trophies. Overall, we have deprived the enemy of 404 trucks. ”

[Scorpio05]

Quote: Tatiana

While in this interethnic conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh Erdogan himself with his radical Islamist party in Turkey will be personally interested on the side of Azerbaijan, who ignited this war in Azerbaijan now, the war between Armenians and Azerbaijanis cannot be stopped.

Erdogan's madness cannot be stopped. Erdogan and Jerusalem declared TURKISH!

Aliyev is completely under the influence of Erdogan with his Turkish intervention in the war in Azerbaijan not only by the Turkish command in the General Staff of Azerbaijan, but by the manpower of Erdogan's pro-Turkish mercenaries from Syria, etc.

“Get us out of this swamp” call from a Syrian mercenary to Turkey • Oct 21. Feb 2020

Again you got out an Armenian bot with handicraft Armenian fakes? You got the Armenian kids with their wretched crafts.

[Scorpio05]

Quote: fn34440

So far, the Armenians are not going to leave NKR. They can only be knocked out by force. And this force in this situation is not the army of Azerbaijan, but the Turkish armed forces, which are capable of being drawn into the war in Nagorno-Karabakh.

It was Erdogan who gave Aliyev determination to unleash the current hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh, who, as one might assume, promised military support to Azerbaijan in case Russia intervenes in the conflict. Figuratively speaking, the Turkish military presence must tie Moscow's hands and leave Armenia alone with Azerbaijan and Turkey standing behind it.
If Erdogan succeeds in fulfilling his plan in Nagorno-Karabakh, then he will be able to oust Russia from the territory of the South Caucasus, and this is part of his global plan for the revival of the Ottoman Empire, which he dreams of and is trying to implement. The creation of a Turkic enclave in this region is only one part of it. Azerbaijan is practically completely pro-Turkish, the poorly concealed Turkish expansion in Georgia is obvious, and Nagorno-Karabakh is considered by Erdogan to be his sphere of influence.
If Russia does not give an unequivocal rebuff, it will become vulnerable in this area, and not only in it.
We will be buried.
However, they have already begun.

What side to you, then, that Azerbaijan is liberating its ancestral territories?
Can you personally go and give "unequivocal support", or should the Russians Vanya fight back for you? Perhaps your religious convictions don't allow you?

[fn34440]

The original lands of Azirbajain? You are NEOSMAN., There are small transit passengers.
While Armenia and Azerbaijan continue to challenge their rights to Nagorno-Karabakh, one can recall how the Karabakh Khanate, which included both Karabakhs - Nagorny and Plain, became part of the Russian Empire. This happened exactly 210 years ago, on May 26, 1805, when the local ruler Ibrahim Khalil Khan took the oath to the Russian Emperor Alexander I. This, as usual, was preceded by numerous political intrigues and even military actions.

The Karabakh Khanate was formed in 1747. With the support of the Persians, the local Turkic rulers managed to take control not only of Plains Karabakh, which was inhabited by a predominantly Muslim, but rather Islamized population, but also Nagorno-Karabakh, where mostly Christian Armenians lived. This state was under Iranian sovereignty.
The situation changed at the beginning of the 1804th century, when the Kartli-Kakhetian kingdom, Megrelia and the Imeretian kingdom decided to join Russia. Agi Mohammed's nephew Feth Ali Shah, without thinking twice, united with Great Britain and declared war on Russia. This happened in XNUMX, but the Persians did not receive full support from their allies even a year later. The Russian army continued to gain new victories and actively move into the depths of the territories that were declared part of Russia. By the way, the inhabitants of small khanates and kingdoms did not offer much resistance, they honored the honor of joining Russia.

[APASUS]

I wonder what assurances Pashinyan receives from the United States? From their American "partners", what are they pouring into his ears?

[Scorpio05]

Quote: fn34440

The original lands of Azirbajain? You are NEOSMAN., There are small transit passengers.
While Armenia and Azerbaijan continue to challenge their rights to Nagorno-Karabakh, one can recall how the Karabakh Khanate, which included both Karabakhs - Nagorny and Plain, became part of the Russian Empire. This happened exactly 210 years ago, on May 26, 1805, when the local ruler Ibrahim Khalil Khan took the oath to the Russian Emperor Alexander I. This, as usual, was preceded by numerous political intrigues and even military actions.

The Karabakh Khanate was formed in 1747. With the support of the Persians, the local Turkic rulers managed to take control not only of Plains Karabakh, which was inhabited by a predominantly Muslim, but rather Islamized population, but also Nagorno-Karabakh, where mostly Christian Armenians lived. This state was under Iranian sovereignty.
The situation changed at the beginning of the 1804th century, when the Kartli-Kakhetian kingdom, Megrelia and the Imeretian kingdom decided to join Russia. Agi Mohammed's nephew Feth Ali Shah, without thinking twice, united with Great Britain and declared war on Russia. This happened in XNUMX, but the Persians did not receive full support from their allies even a year later. The Russian army continued to gain new victories and actively move into the depths of the territories that were declared part of Russia. By the way, the inhabitants of small khanates and kingdoms did not offer much resistance, they honored the honor of joining Russia.

Why was this vomiting of bile? Take the trouble to write the name of the state in the next normally, unless of course you are just another illiterate Armenian troll, then no questions. Everything is clear there.
What kind of Persians are there?)) There were entirely Azerbaijani Turkic dynasties and it was known that the Qajars were a dynasty reigning in Qajar Iran, that the Dzhevanshirs and other Turkic feudal lords and their armies.
Eee ... what? Yes, the Karabakh Khanate became part of the Russian Empire, but do not be lazy and read that the Russian Empire, in accordance with the agreement signed with the Karabakh Khanate, guaranteed ETERNAL rule in the khanate to the descendants of Ibrahim Jevanshir ... and what did Ibrahim Khalil Khan and his descendants actually get?
Here's what: on June 12, 1806, Major D.T. Lisanevich, at the head of a detachment of 200 soldiers, broke into the khan's camp, killed the khan and massacred his entire family. Rzagulu-bey Javanshir reports that on the night of the attack on Ibrahim Khalil-khan, the following were killed: the Karabakh khan himself, his wife Tuba-khanum, daughters Saltanet-khanum and Tutu-begim, the 12-year-old son of Khan Abbasgulu-aga Kebirlinsky and other relatives. The Karabakh Khanate was liquidated in 1822 and transformed into a Russian province.

[Old26]

Quote: fn34440

While Armenia and Azerbaijan continue to challenge their rights to Nagorno-Karabakh, one can recall how the Karabakh Khanate, which included both Karabakhs - Nagorny and Plain, became part of the Russian Empire.

Don't you want to remember anything early? Alans, for example, Sarmatians or Scythians? Damn, when the arguments of modernity end, they begin to argue with the events of "bygone days." So what if the Karabakh Khanate became part of the Russian Empire. Georgia and other territories of the Caucasus also became part of the Russian Empire. As well as Central Asia. Expansion of the Russian Empire, however.
Only nowhere and never, neither Soviet Russia, nor later the Soviet Union said that they are the legal successors of the Russian Empire with all the ensuing rights and obligations. The second wave of expansion, but this time by the Soviet regime, once and for all crossed out all these lamentations about the Empire. if we were legal successors in the full sense of the word, FIG would Poland and Finland gain independence.
As for the formation of the USSR, it was formed by 4 republics: RSFSR, TSFSR, Ukrainian SSR and BSSR. Belarus and Ukraine did not have autonomies in their composition. There were 8 autonomous republics and 14 autonomous regions in the RSFSR. There were 3 republics in the TSFSR, which included 4 autonomies
1. Georgia
Abkhazian and Adjarian ASSR and South Ossetian Autonomous Region
2. Armenia
It did not have autonomies.
3 Azerbaijan
Nakhchivan Autonomous Region (Nakhchivan Territory). There was no other formation at the time of signing the union treaty. The Autonomous Region of Nagorno-Karabakh (since 1936 - the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region) was formed in 1923
Although, to be precise, in 1918 - 1920 this area was disputed between Armenia and Azerbaijan, and after the Sovietization of Armenia and Azerbaijan, by the decision of the Caucasian Bureau of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) of July 4, 1921, it was decided to transfer Nagorno-Karabakh to the Armenian SSR, but the final decision remained with the Central Committee RCP (b), and a new decision of July 5, based on the need for national peace between Muslims and Armenians and the economic ties of Upper and Lower Karabakh, its permanent connection with Azerbaijan, Nagorno-Karabakh was left as part of the Azerbaijan SSR with the granting of broad regional autonomy with the administrative center in the city of Shusha.

That is, there was no question of any belonging to Russia, as the legal successor of the Russian Empire.