MLRS shelling of a road in the Berdzor region: the danger of a military blockade looms over Nagorno-Karabakh

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The Ministry of Defense of Armenia reports on the attack by the Azerbaijani troops with the use of multiple launch rocket launchers (MLRS) on the territory of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.

Shushan Stepanyan, the spokesman for the ministry's press service, states that the Azerbaijani troops used the Grad MLRS to strike at the Karegakh settlement of the Kashatagh region of the NKR. After that, a highway was fired on in the area of ​​the village of Berdzor (the administrative center of the mentioned region).



The map below shows the territory, which, according to the Armenian side, was attacked using rocket artillery.


The other day "Military Review" reported that if the Azerbaijani troops succeed in the southern direction of the armed conflict, then they can make an attempt to cut the main communication routes between Armenia and the NKR. If we turn to the map and the indicated firing zone with the use of MLRS, then we can state that it is this attempt that is being carried out. The Azerbaijani troops decided to disrupt communication on the road that connects Goris and Tech of the Republic of Armenia with the cities of Shusha and Stepanakert of the Artsakh Republic of NKR.

If the Azerbaijani side succeeds, then the danger of a military blockade hangs over Nagorno-Karabakh, since the main roads and routes may be cut or destroyed. To achieve this, the Azerbaijani army still needs to take control of the territories in the northern conflict zone - east of the Armenian Vardenis.

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan, meanwhile, reports on the false nature of the information about the alleged shelling of Azerbaijani positions by the Iranian side. Such statements appeared in the Armenian media. In particular, it was stated that Iran "delivered a blow to the troops of Azerbaijan after the flight dronekamikaze across the Iranian border."

Press service of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan:

Spread by the Armenian side news about the alleged artillery shelling of Azerbaijani positions by Iran after crossing the Azerbaijani army's drone-kamikaze into Iranian airspace is false. This is another misinformation from the enemy.
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  1. +2
    23 October 2020 19: 11
    Azerbaijan should hurry up.
    Winter is coming soon.
    1. +8
      23 October 2020 19: 14
      Well, it's as if it's not "winterier" than ours request
      1. +8
        23 October 2020 19: 18
        It is of course.
        On the plain.
        And on mountain passes and roads
        Nagorno-Karabakh is not named proto so.
        1. +8
          23 October 2020 19: 21
          Azerbaijanis hit from several sides - north, from south to north along the old line of contact and along the Lachin corridor. They expect to destroy the organized resistance of the Armenians.
          1. +10
            23 October 2020 19: 22
            Now is the moment of truth.
            If the Armenians do not hold out now, they will no longer hold any territory of Karabakh.
            And the Azerbaijanis understand this well.
            1. +9
              23 October 2020 19: 28
              Except for a counter-offensive from Armenia itself in the south with the cutting off of the Azerbaijani units moving towards Lachin, for the Armenian side, with my amateurish and incompetent look, I see no way out.
              1. +2
                23 October 2020 19: 31
                Quote: Krasnodar
                In addition to a counteroffensive from Armenia itself in the south with the cutting off of Azerbaijani units,

                Not allowed. The RF Armed Forces are there.
                1. +7
                  23 October 2020 19: 35
                  Not a fact - free will. Simply in this case, the CSTO protocol on the intervention of the Russian Federation on the side of Armenia stops working. Accordingly, such a decision requires courage.
                  1. +8
                    23 October 2020 19: 43
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Not a fact - free will. Simply in this case, the CSTO protocol on the intervention of the Russian Federation on the side of Armenia stops working. Accordingly, such a decision requires courage.

                    Foolishness is needed for this. Even such a step will ensure only local success, since most of the armored vehicles have already been demolished, the personnel army too, there is essentially no aviation, it is better not to remember about air defense, and the D-30 alone, dragging them without equipment, apparently on the hump of civilian volunteers navoyuyu. But the consequences can be cool. Up to carte blanche for Turkey and Azerbaijan to clean up Armenia. Hardly, of course, but if someone is smart enough to expose our army under attack, or even worse - to touch the base, when we refuse to save after such a "counterattack", then ours can simply turn around and leave. I don't need to explain what will remain of Armenia after that. No, I do not believe that they will risk it.
                    1. +18
                      23 October 2020 19: 51
                      Then Armenia loses its only consensus, its baby - Artsakh. The Armenians from the population of the “little Sparta” of Transcaucasia are turning into a talented oriental people scattered around the world with a national hearth in the form of a standard country of the Third World, from where everyone scatters around the world due to the lack of prospects. The decision is theirs hi
                      1. +8
                        23 October 2020 19: 57
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Then Armenia loses its only consensus, its baby - Artsakh. The Armenians from the population of the “little Sparta” of Transcaucasia are turning into a talented oriental people scattered around the world with a national hearth in the form of a standard country of the Third World, from where everyone scatters around the world due to the lack of prospects. The decision is theirs hi

                        Occupation, death or shame ... Not a bad choice. Maybe the following friends of Americans from our circle will learn something from this example ...
                      2. +15
                        23 October 2020 20: 01
                        There will be no occupation. You just should never bite the hand of the giver.
                      3. -3
                        23 October 2020 20: 04
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        There will be no occupation. You just should never bite the hand of the giver.

                        Available as Turkish
                      4. +3
                        23 October 2020 20: 10
                        recourse I'm talking about Pashinyan
                      5. +1
                        23 October 2020 20: 14
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        I'm talking about Pashinyan

                        Well, how can I tell you ... If after the surrender he is not lucky enough to fall into the hands of refugees from Karabakh, then he will personally be occupied, and shame, and death, and much more, funny and interesting ...
                      6. +1
                        24 October 2020 13: 34
                        Quote: oleg123219307
                        If, after surrender, he is not lucky enough to fall into the hands of refugees from Karabakh, then he will personally be occupied, and shame, and death, and much more, funny and interesting ...

                        Pashinyan's business trip to Armenia will end there and he will fly to the USA to his house near Yatsenyuk and will live happily and make good money ...
                      7. 0
                        24 October 2020 13: 42
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Pashinyan's business trip to Armenia will end there and he will fly to the USA to his house near Yatsenyuk and will live happily and make good money ...

                        Likely. But at least sometimes you have to go to the store for bread ... Someone will whisper to the Armenians where and under what name he lives. No, with all my desire, I do not understand how he can stay alive if he surrenders. So he fights to the end, although there will probably be no sense, too large a bolt was once hammered into the construction of a normal defense.
                      8. +3
                        24 October 2020 14: 56
                        Quote: oleg123219307
                        Someone will certainly whisper to the Armenians where and under what name he lives.

                        He won't hide, why? He was brought to power by the Armenians themselves, who wanted to live like in the EU and the USA, I have not seen demonstrations against Pashinyan's coming to power in the EU and the USA ...
                        In addition, Pashinyan can also ask the American Armenians where they were when Azerbaijan liberated the NKR and 7 more districts of its territory from the Armenian army ...
                        No, with all my desire, I do not understand how he can stay alive if he surrenders.

                        Nothing will happen, the Azerbaijanis will feed him, give him drink and send him home to the USA with honors ... for the Azerbaijanis, the coming to power of Pashinyan is like a gift of fate ...
                        there probably won't be any sense, too big a bolt was once hammered into the construction of a normal defense.

                        The bolt was hammered, even by the previous government, by the nationalists from the NKR ... and Pashinyan himself came to power not on the wave of a desire to fight, but on the wave of the Armenians' desire to go a different way to the EU ... in the composition of Turkey, also ts. a progressive country in terms of market economy and democratic values, neither should Armenia join the Russian Federation ("prison of peoples") ...
                        I think the Armenians will be fine, in the sense of "democratic values" .....
                      9. 0
                        24 October 2020 15: 50
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        I think the Armenians will be fine, in the sense of "democratic values" .....

                        As you mildly described their funeral ...
                      10. +18
                        23 October 2020 20: 15
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        There will be no occupation. You just should never bite the hand of the giver.

                        Really. hi
                        "The person who bites the hand that feeds him usually licks the boot that kicks him." Eric Hoffer
                      11. +4
                        23 October 2020 20: 29
                        There, the deputy is already licking - a glorious joint story, etc.
                      12. +5
                        23 October 2020 23: 15
                        Quote: ul_vitalii
                        "The person who bites the hand that feeds him usually licks the boot that kicks him."

                        More often it is necessary to kick "friends-freeloaders" so that the memory would work better and the brains would not forget where and with whom they lived well. And then "Independence", "Russians - out !!" ... And this goes for all the ex
                      13. +3
                        23 October 2020 22: 35
                        Quote: oleg123219307
                        Maybe the following friends of Americans from our circle will learn something from this example ...

                        As my neighbor says, "Your words would be in the ears of God ..." But they won't learn. If we had studied, we would have seen how we were “friends” with the Americans in the 90s and would have fled from such a “friendship” as from fire. No, everyone should try hunting in their own skin ...
                        Some, by the way, also like it - or haven't they "made friends" yet?
                      14. +4
                        23 October 2020 22: 36
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        Some, by the way, also like it - or haven't they "made friends" yet?

                        Well, what can you do with them. As they say once, don't ... Let them try.
                      15. +3
                        23 October 2020 22: 57
                        It depends from what position to be friends laughing If you represent something of yourself and you have your own people there, this is one thing))
                        If it's stupid ...
                        It's like a simple engineer suddenly take and play with the oligarch
                        Or with a serious bandit
                        In both cases, you will be set up without thinking twice in your interests
                        If you yourself are Kommers with connections and know how to stand up for yourself, then you will earn money with the oligarch, the bandit will be useful to you, as you will to him
                      16. +2
                        23 October 2020 23: 17
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        It depends from what position to be friends.If you represent something of yourself and you have your own people there, this is one thing))
                        If it's stupid ...
                        It's like a simple engineer suddenly take and play with the oligarch
                        Or with a serious bandit
                        In both cases, you will be set up without thinking twice in your interests
                        If you yourself are Kommers with connections and know how to stand up for yourself, then you will earn money with the oligarch, the bandit will be useful to you, as you will to him

                        If we and the United States are compared in politics with the Bandit and the Oligarch, then Armenia is not an engineer in scale, but a mole in an engineer (Turkey) in the closet ... Everything is very sad with friendship)))
                      17. +1
                        24 October 2020 10: 14
                        Choice # 4 - Victory. I think, after long and painful thinking, they will make exactly this choice
                      18. 0
                        24 October 2020 10: 38
                        Quote: Old Kaa
                        Choice # 4 - Victory. I think, after long and painful thinking, they will make exactly this choice

                        Without us? How? They have no military-industrial complex, there is nothing to compensate for losses in equipment and nowhere. And without technology in modern warfare there will be no sense of any heroism and self-sacrifice. Look at what a thin pancake we have rolled out ISIS in Syria, although there is every second, not counting every first kammikaze suicide bomber. However, it did not help without air defense. I am not for Azerbaijan and not for Armenia. Only for common sense. If we don't help, Armenians are kirdyk. I don’t know if it is worth helping.
                      19. +6
                        23 October 2020 20: 53
                        And they really have no choice. Everything will be decided by mid-November. They will collect the belongings and disperse. I feel sorry for ordinary people who have fallen victim to the greed and incapacity of politicians.
                      20. +5
                        23 October 2020 20: 57
                        Heh. The figures are engaged in their own political survival, accordingly, they adjust to the mood of the masses. There are exceptions - like Sadat. But such do not survive - incl. physically hi
                      21. -1
                        24 October 2020 01: 49
                        I feel sorry for ordinary people who have fallen victim to the greed and incapacity of politicians.
                        - Will there be Armenian autonomy within Azerbaijan, as under the USSR?
                    2. +2
                      23 October 2020 22: 29
                      I doubt that there were 100 tanks on both sides, most likely, the propaganda is a great thing, in Karabakh they wrote about 300 tanks somewhere, the Urmienia had about 200 and it’s too early to write off the air defense, in the last 2 days two Baikatars were shot down, if it goes on like this will go, the bloodiest battles are yet to come
                      1. +2
                        23 October 2020 22: 39
                        Quote: Warrior-80
                        I doubt that there were 100 tanks on both sides, most likely, the propaganda is a great thing, in Karabakh they wrote about 300 tanks somewhere, the Urmienia had about 200 and it’s too early to write off the air defense, in the last 2 days two Baikatars were shot down, if it goes on like this will go, the bloodiest battles are yet to come

                        If Armenia officially attacks from its territory, Azerbaijan will declare war on it in 5 minutes, and in 10 Aliyev will already be in Istanbul. And we are for the aggressor, substituting us and also pro-American, we simply will not fit in. And what will the Turks leave from that Armenia in 3-5 days?
                      2. +3
                        23 October 2020 22: 51
                        Yes, bastard you, that now Turkey does not ship weapons and militants to Azerbaijan, or Israel itself, it is clear that Armenia throws soldiers and equipment to Karabakh, this is an obvious fact
                      3. -2
                        23 October 2020 23: 13
                        Quote: Warrior-80
                        Yes, bastard you, that now Turkey does not ship weapons and militants to Azerbaijan, or Israel itself, it is clear that Armenia throws soldiers and equipment to Karabakh, this is an obvious fact

                        Forwards of course. But this is not the same as one and a half hundred Turkish planes that are crumbling down Yerevan. And if we allow it, they will be happy to organize it.
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                      5. +1
                        23 October 2020 23: 11
                        If Armenia stands this time, they will have to make a conclusion and create a miniature echeloned air defense system, 10 armor, 5 tori, 3 s-300 and several systems of modern fish. If you say it expensive, I will say Baykatar costs like 1 armor, they already had a s-300, the rest could have been ruined not such a large amount, for 5 years for the state, and of course the education and training of personnel. Azerbaijan would have only damp dreams to linger. And here some write some that Baikatars are consumables, wow consumables at the price of a shell, in battle I would put on a shell
                      6. +2
                        23 October 2020 23: 15
                        Quote: Warrior-80
                        If Armenia stands this time, they will have to make a conclusion and create a miniature echeloned air defense system, 10 armor, 5 tori, 3 s-300 and several systems of modern fish. If you say it expensive, I will say Baykatar costs like 1 armor, they already had a s-300, the rest could have been ruined not such a large amount, for 5 years for the state, and of course the education and training of personnel. Azerbaijan would have only damp dreams to linger. And here some write some that Baikatars are consumables, wow consumables at the price of a shell, in battle I would put on a shell

                        I will not argue with a single word, you all wrote correctly. Well, except that it would be better for them to do it in any case, whether they are located there Karabakh or not. And then it was a pity to look at that parody of defense that they had rebuilt.
                      7. 0
                        24 October 2020 00: 26
                        Quote: oleg123219307
                        ... And then it was a pity to look at that parody of defense that they rebuilt

                        Yeah. It seems that Armenia and NK also have their own Yatsenyuks, who "mastered" the money allocated for the construction of fortifications, military training and technical re-equipment ...
                      8. 0
                        25 October 2020 16: 05
                        Quote: Warrior-80
                        and create an echeloned air defense system in miniature, 10 armor, 5 tori, 3 s-300s and several systems of modern fish.
                        Azerbaijan will probably listen to your words and buy all this equipment from Russia. Fortunately, he will find money in the future. But what kind of shishi the Armenians will buy and place all this, the question is certainly interesting. Unless Kim Kardashian will throw some money. lol
                  2. +3
                    23 October 2020 19: 46
                    Except for a counter-offensive from Armenia itself in the south with the cutting off of the Azerbaijani units moving towards Lachin, for the Armenian side, with my amateurish and incompetent look, I see no way out.
                    In principle, if the Armenians decide to take the risk, they will recognize Karabakh as the "republic of Artsakh" and will start fighting alone with Azerbaijan and Turkey. How much they can do it is another question.
                  3. +7
                    23 October 2020 20: 36
                    This courage of the Armenians outside the will of the Russian Federation may end with the movement of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces from Zengilan to the territory of Nakhchivan, in which case they will leave Karabakh, and they will negotiate for 30 years so that Azerbaijan returns to them the broken corridor in the south)
                    1. +2
                      23 October 2020 21: 11
                      Oh, and this is a thought ..
                      1. +3
                        23 October 2020 21: 22
                        I will continue ...) If everything ends (it will be so) with the withdrawal of the Armenian troops from Karabakh and the restoration of the borders of Azerbaijan, then then, the Armenians can revolt in Armenia against the base of the Russian Federation, accusing that you did not help us, leave. Then they will get the second punishment, in the south, according to the same scenario (20:36), and the Russian Federation will receive a base in the south, near the Iranian border.
                  4. +3
                    23 October 2020 22: 34
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Accordingly, such a decision requires courage.

                    Official declaration of war. what
                    No, they won't risk it ... It won't work, then accuse Russia of not providing assistance. They will hope that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces themselves will strike at the territory of Armenia.
                2. +3
                  23 October 2020 19: 49
                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  In addition to a counteroffensive from Armenia itself in the south with the cutting off of Azerbaijani units,

                  Not allowed. The RF Armed Forces are there.

                  The Russian armed forces are stationed only at base 102 in Gyumri, there are also Russian border guards, but they are standing on the Armenian-Turkish and Armenian-Iranian border, the photo with Russian flags on the border of Nagorno-Karabakh and Armenia has already been recognized as a trick of the Armenian side so as not to be bombed by Azerbaijanis. Even if there are units of Russian special operations forces there, no one will fly Russian flags. Yes
                  1. 0
                    23 October 2020 22: 56
                    What does Gyumri have to do with it? Our MiGs are at the Erebuni airbase, and it is near Yerevan!
                3. +3
                  23 October 2020 21: 46
                  Not a fact. From the side of Armenia, troops and reserves are constantly moving, but apparently they are in a deplorable state, judging by that attempt at a counterstrike in Zangilan.
                  1. -1
                    24 October 2020 00: 29
                    Why didn't you climb Murov with your friends?
                    I would teach them to wear mittens.
              2. +4
                23 October 2020 19: 45
                Ours are just waiting for that, they will stop advancing on Lachin and strike at Meghri, the armed Nakhichevan corps will go to the teeth to join them, the narrowest point is about 45 km .. And the CSTO will not help, since an act of aggression from Armenia will be recorded.
                1. +2
                  23 October 2020 20: 12
                  The Armenians will still have to donate a piece of their mainland in the form of an indemnity. This corridor will sooner or later be cut down by Azerbaijan. Wait and see.
              3. 0
                23 October 2020 23: 03
                You write a variant, tactically indicating the current situation)
                In my opinion, everything is already clear ..
                Fluttering, at the cost of the heads of the plebs, will only "decorate" the picture .. from the Armenian side, in this situation, the "game" is to squeeze out the Russian Federation ..
                Karabakh is a means, if you want ... Well, our "bad guys", again decide on a situational basis ((
            2. NTD
              +1
              23 October 2020 19: 40
              Quote: Livonetc
              Now is the moment of truth.

              I agree. A couple of hours ago, the president of the puppet regime in the most pitiful form began asking Putin for help to stop the war. They are ready to negotiate. But Pashinyan deceived Aliyev 2 times .......... will Aliyev go to the meeting? Until he is given a document on the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Karabakh, he will not stop. Also today, Putin clearly said that the occupation of Karabakh is unacceptable. And then a couple of compliments to Erdogan. This speaks volumes. Today the fighting was going on, the Armenians lost many soldiers. Almost 1000 were officially recognized killed. And looking at their year of birth, it is clear that the reserve went into the expense.
              And in the UN, the French wanted to slip through one document, with some kind of rights and someone's, DECLINED. They were all merged. So that's it.
          2. +1
            23 October 2020 23: 09
            What are the results of the shelling? How many and what were destroyed?
          3. 0
            24 October 2020 04: 37
            Quote: Krasnodar
            They expect to destroy the organized resistance of the Armenians.

            Duc, it looks like they have already ruined
        2. NTD
          +2
          23 October 2020 19: 36
          Quote: Livonetc
          Nagorno-Karabakh is not named proto so.

          The highest peak of the Lesser Caucasus, located on the Murovdag ridge in Nagorno-Karabakh. The height of the summit is 3724 m. There is definitely snow there since September. And in Khankyandi and Shusha, the average is somewhere 1300-1400 m above sea level. There is also autumn in September and it can snow in November. But Azerbaijanis are not like snow, but fierce heat is worse.
          1. +3
            23 October 2020 21: 45
            Now I don’t care if it’s snowing or it rains - Azerbaijan will cut all communications connecting Karabakh from the north and south and the guerrillas will methodically process all mountainous regions of Karabakh with artillery cross fire and the militia will not last long there.
            1. +5
              23 October 2020 22: 09
              Quote: Vadim237
              Azerbaijan will cut all communications connecting Karabakh from the north and south and will methodically cross-fire all mountainous regions of Karabakh by guerrillas and the militia will not last long

              Well done, Azerbaijanis, to study military affairs properly.
              Respect
            2. -2
              23 October 2020 23: 14
              For some reason, the Azerbaijanis are in no hurry to cut communications. Snow and frost in the mountains is not bullshit, but very bad - especially for the attackers.
        3. 0
          23 October 2020 19: 38
          Quote: Livonetc
          It is of course.
          On the plain.
          And on mountain passes and roads
          Nagorno-Karabakh is not named proto so.

          I agree, but in the mountains there is another tactic, applied to local conditions, already worked out. Summer, winter, there is an antidote to everything, say that there is no desire, in terms of speed, both belligerent parties have anchors attached to their own cocks. Yes
          1. +1
            23 October 2020 22: 56
            In the absence of the local population. The partisans will not last long.
            1. -1
              23 October 2020 23: 15
              The territory of Armenia is 30 - 40 km away. Armenians are local, they grew up here, they don't even need cards.
      2. -1
        23 October 2020 19: 28
        Quote: Not bad
        Well, it's as if it's not "winterier" than ours

        Where is this "with us"? In the Krasnodar Territory or in the Kolyma?
        1. +3
          23 October 2020 19: 55
          Quote: Hyperion
          Quote: Not bad
          Well, it's as if it's not "winterier" than ours

          Where is this "with us"? In the Krasnodar Territory or in the Kolyma?

          And what, not "you" in the middle of the funnel? wink
          1. -5
            23 October 2020 22: 12
            Quote: Rusland
            And what, not "you" in the middle of the funnel?

            Not with us. You. laughing
            1. +1
              24 October 2020 00: 15
              Quote: Hyperion
              Quote: Rusland
              And what, not "you" in the middle of the funnel?

              Not with us. You. laughing

              Good smile, teeth do not catch a cold, smiling. Yes
              1. -4
                24 October 2020 00: 53
                Quote: Rusland
                Good smile, teeth do not catch a cold, smiling.

                Take care of your head, sick one. You still have to wear a hat on it, podmahivat.
                1. +2
                  24 October 2020 04: 51
                  Quote: Hyperion
                  Quote: Rusland
                  Good smile, teeth do not catch a cold, smiling.

                  Take care of your head, sick one. You still have to wear a hat on it, podmahivat.

                  Yes, and you do not get sick, periodically think with the upper ball, and not with the lower hemispheres.
      3. +1
        23 October 2020 23: 07
        Go to the mountains, climb 2 km. and live there for a couple of days, in a tent.
    2. +3
      23 October 2020 19: 23
      Well, push ... fool
      1. +7
        23 October 2020 19: 59
        Quote: newbie
        Well, push ... fool

        Strategists however Yes
    3. +1
      23 October 2020 19: 24
      well, something like that


      1. +6
        23 October 2020 20: 19
        Well, they don't like Azerbaijanis here, everything is one-sided here)) Envy is a shameful thing. And Azerbaijan will take its toll, it's like giving it to drink!
        1. +3
          23 October 2020 21: 52
          Karakurt 777
          Not only here)) It's all about religious affiliation, if Armenia were a Muslim country and occupied the territory of Christian Azerbaijan, then in a year Armenia would be erased from the world map))
          And then this is garbage, like small children amuse themselves))
        2. +9
          23 October 2020 22: 14
          Quote: KARAKURT777

          +2
          Well, they don't like Azerbaijanis here, everything is one-sided here))

          This is not a football team to love selflessly.
          But they arouse concrete respect, well done, realizing that you can only scare the ladies in the yard with rasping - they studied, improved, bought modern weapons and learned again - well done - they are fighting in the 21st century.
          Quote: KARAKURT777
          Envy is a shameful thing. And Azerbaijan will take its toll, it's like giving it to drink

          Without a doubt, and I wish them success in this and as few victims as possible - on both sides.
    4. NTD
      -1
      23 October 2020 19: 24
      Quote: Livonetc
      Azerbaijan should hurry up.
      Winter is coming soon.

      For drones with their thermal imagers and other means, tracking is somehow purple. And so the truth is in your words, I wonder how many days they gave to the market. Month? or.........

      But something else interests me.
      The faces of the Armenian comrades are not like that. Unambiguously of different stripes. And by the way, why post a 13-day Armenian photo? There are no new ones? And it is clearly visible on their faces that they are either reservists or mercenaries. But definitely not an army.
      1. -2
        23 October 2020 19: 27
        What persons are you talking about?
        In the photo vshe like Azerbaijanis.
        1. NTD
          +2
          23 October 2020 19: 43
          Quote: Livonetc
          What persons are you talking about?
          In the photo vshe like Azerbaijanis.

          No, Armenians. That's how they confuse everyone. This photo appeared on all Armenian websites 13 days ago. It's them. I wondered why the hell was this photo in the article. They write about Azerbaijanis and a photo of Armenian reservists. Then I looked at the article below, well done moderators. pointed out that the photo is from the NKR and not Azerbaijan. That's how people get confused. The Azerbaijani army has a disciplined army. Everything is clear there. Shaved, trimmed, and so on. And then it was as if they were taken from the house or collected from the street
          1. 0
            23 October 2020 19: 45
            I thought about the photo in the comment above.
            Where in winter form.
            1. NTD
              -3
              23 October 2020 19: 52
              Quote: Livonetc
              I thought about the photo in the comment above.

              The photo in the comments is the Azerbaijani army and the article indicates the Armenians or their supporting faces.
          2. -5
            23 October 2020 20: 19
            Quote: MTN
            No, Armenians. That's how they confuse everyone.

            no wonder. Everything looks the same. Like the Chinese ...
    5. +4
      23 October 2020 19: 25
      Quote: Livonetc
      Azerbaijan should hurry up.
      Winter is coming soon

      Not only because of this. And also, due to the fact that the resources of the countries are not endless and while Azerbaijan is winning, and with a clear advantage, this should be used. Because sooner or later, you will have to sit down at the negotiating table and the better your position on the confrontation field, the more confident you will feel at that table
      1. +8
        23 October 2020 19: 33
        Yes, we are already losing Armenia, in the process; Azerbaijan will still show the Russian Federation and its ass and teeth_ will never leave Turkey for the sake of the Russian Federation, Georgia is lost, Ukraine is lost, Moldova is profukali_ if all this has a reasonable price for the Russian Federation, I can still understand, but I don't see. In half measures, half steps, the Russian Federation brought itself to the belt of instability around itself. Turkey will deal with Armenia, there is no doubt that the Russian Federation will get _ Islamists near Dagestan and in Pankissa. In general: Karabakh is falling, along with the RA.
        1. +5
          23 October 2020 19: 40
          Quote: newbie
          but I don't see.

          You know, the story is cyclical and like this, I would not panic ...
          1. +1
            23 October 2020 19: 48
            I don't panic. I imagine purely visually: a string of coffins in Armenia, the defeat of Karabakh, another Sumgait to the Armenians in Karabakh and the surrender of the remnants of the RA to the largest embassy in the Caucasus. hi
        2. 0
          23 October 2020 20: 27
          No need to write all the comments. Azerbaijan is the only state loyal to the Russian Federation, at least among those you have listed above.
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            1. -3
              23 October 2020 20: 48
              How can we be far from the Turks? We are the Turks. It is thanks to Stalin that we turned into Azerbaijanis. It's time to understand this.



              1. +1
                23 October 2020 21: 15
                That's right, we are Turks. An Azeri is the same as what the British call Englanders.
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                2. +4
                  23 October 2020 23: 17
                  Azerbaijanis are by no means Turks, this is proved by the genetics of Azerbaijanis.
                  Brockhaus and Efron Dictionary calls Azerbaijanis Turks by language and Iranians by race
                  The Turks imposed their language on the Azerbaijanis, and Turkified them.
                  Genetic Azeri is a mixture of genes of Iranian peoples, Cumans, Khazars, Goths, Caucasian Albanians.
                  As for the role of the Turkic-speaking component in the ethnogenesis of Azerbaijanis, the Turkic-speaking Oguz union of tribes was formed as a result of the mixing of Turkuts with local tribes of Ugric and Iranian-speaking Sarmatian origin.
                  The Azerbaijanis, when they were part of Atropatena, had their own language "Azeri", which irrevocably disappeared due to the Turkization
                  1. 0
                    24 October 2020 17: 42
                    Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                    Azerbaijanis are by no means Turks, this is proved by the genetics of Azerbaijanis.
                    Brockhaus and Efron Dictionary calls Azerbaijanis Turks by language and Iranians by race
                    The Turks imposed their language on the Azerbaijanis, and Turkified them.
                    Genetic Azeri is a mixture of genes of Iranian peoples, Cumans, Khazars, Goths, Caucasian Albanians.
                    As for the role of the Turkic-speaking component in the ethnogenesis of Azerbaijanis, the Turkic-speaking Oguz union of tribes was formed as a result of the mixing of Turkuts with local tribes of Ugric and Iranian-speaking Sarmatian origin.
                    The Azerbaijanis, when they were part of Atropatena, had their own language "Azeri", which irrevocably disappeared due to the Turkization

                    Yes, genetics are just that. But be that as it may, the Western Turks are all, to some extent, formed as a result of tribal unions and confederations of different peoples. And this is normal, all great imperial peoples, including. and the Russians were formed and developed in a similar way.
              2. +2
                23 October 2020 21: 40
                Quote: KARAKURT777
                How can we be far from the Turks? We are the Turks.

                And why to the Turks, and not to the Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Yakuts, Khakass, Tatars, Bashkirs or other Türks? And why most of all Azerbaijanis live in Iran, is it also Stalin's fault?
              3. +5
                23 October 2020 23: 23
                Aha, and you have one faith with the Turks. You are Shiites, they are Sunnis. In general everything is good.
            2. -3
              23 October 2020 21: 13
              Have you read Haevye bedtime stories? By the way, the Sumgait pogrom was led by Grigoryan, an agent of the KGB of the USSR. Now he lives in Rostov after his release. The Hague Tribunal will decide who is a barbarian. Azerbaijan records all its actions with firewood. And for the second blow to Ganja Pashinyan and Co, The Hague shines.
              1. +2
                23 October 2020 22: 05
                Fairy tales? _ your division !!! My brother served there, exactly that massacre. Your barbarians with bandages ran around the city like frenzied grinning jackals. Just demobilization from my brother, the battalion commander says, well, we can't get to the border, ours will cover it, but to the station with armor on, pzhlsta (?), I also had a "dad battalion commander" _ syklo! The Azerbaijanis came to the rescue, with a capital letter, brother and sister, they hid them first, then the guy bought his brother a ticket to Moscow (!) With his passport, and from there it was easy to go home. So, "these tales," as you say, we know from the inside, not from the TV.
                1. +1
                  23 October 2020 22: 35
                  You really understand your history. Now the Azerbaijanis are barbarians, then the Azerbaijanis saved your brother. There were excesses, but the scope was incomparable. About 30 victims in Sumgait and 600 in Khojaly. Google for fun
            3. 0
              23 October 2020 22: 20
              [quote] / quote] [quote = newbie] These republics were loyal while the Russian Foreign Ministry slept under the palm tree of sweet exhortations from the West. You, on the other hand, are "loyal" to the Russian Federation until the Turks resolve the "final Armenian question". You_ will never become allies of the Russian Federation until you understand or remember that you are far from the Turks.
              Didn't want to write, but. You barbarians, inhumans. I remembered the photo of your "soldiers" with the severed head of an Armenian soldier. Then I remembered Sumgayit, where your barbarians tied the Armenian women to a radiator in the kitchen and forced them to watch how the baby roasted in the oven, how they mocked their own people who hid the Armenians. So go to the forest. I see how the elite Rosselite put on you and for thirty pieces of silver such non-humans as Korotchenko and others like them work off for you. You are from top to bottom a terrorist state military unit, the Russian Federation still haunted the presence of bearded men under the belly_ beat mrazota in Syria, and the Azeri brought this mrazota under the very belly of the Russian Federation. [/ Quote]
              You tore away their territories from Azerbaijan, you occupied not only Karabakh, but also 7 regions - taking advantage of the weakness of Azerbaijan and the collapse of the USSR, you expelled all Azerbaijanis from there - and now, when retribution for all this has come, you are trying to drag Russia into this gadyushnik you have brewed ?
              1. -2
                23 October 2020 22: 27
                Would be silent, always offended offspring of David. It is you who occupy the neighbors to the song of your genocide, taking pity on them, but do not recognize the Armenian genocide. To communicate with you in general is disgusting. We did not occupy, but took ours. And the safety belt is like the Gollans in your eye, so close up, smoke.
                1. +2
                  23 October 2020 23: 13
                  Quote: newbie
                  Would be silent, always offended offspring of David. It is you who occupy the neighbors to the song of your genocide, taking pity on them, but do not recognize the Armenian genocide. To communicate with you in general is disgusting. We did not occupy, but took ours. And the safety belt is like the Gollans in your eye, so close up, smoke.

                  Yes, yes, Atatürk Denme, Jews are to blame for the Genocide ... fellow
                  Whoever took it away from the neighbors, they sold the land themselves, then tried to squeeze it out, and the only case when in Israel the Maidan was forcibly dispersed with the dead and wounded was protests against German reparations for the Holocaust - to accept grandmothers means to forgive, people believed. ...
                  Regarding the recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Israel - as in the USSR, de facto recognized, included in the school curriculum, there is an Armenian museum dedicated to the tragedy in Jerusalem. De Jure, neither the Soviet Union nor Israel wanted to spoil relations with the Turks, so they called it the massacre of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.
                  For pity, conscience, and so on, you are trying to take (Putin's Aratyunyan, at least) - independent Armenia is 29 years old, and at this "age" Israel had many times more nuclear bombs than luxury cars - this is the whole difference hi
                2. +3
                  23 October 2020 23: 47
                  Quote: newbie
                  Would be silent, forever offended offspring of David

                  Are we offended?
                  Okts.

                  Quote: newbie
                  It's disgusting to communicate with you

                  Of course, when the ass is being torn apart, whoever speaks the truth is disgusting.
                  Only for some reason in Azerbaijan all nationalities lived in peace and harmony, and Armenia was a mono-republic (in the USSR) with 95% of Armenians - why no one gets along with you?
                  Quote: newbie
                  And the safety belt is like the Gollans in your eye, so close up, smoke.

                  Strange Armenian interpretation - what security belt?. Could Azerbaijan once attacked you?
                  1. +5
                    24 October 2020 08: 01
                    Quote: atalef
                    Only for some reason in Azerbaijan all nationalities lived in peace and harmony, and Armenia was a mono-republic (in the USSR) with 95% of Armenians - why no one gets along with you?

                    Armenia is the only country in the region where there were no Jews, there was not a single synagogue (there are not even ruins. "
            4. +2
              23 October 2020 22: 26
              Don't judge by yourself. Do you have such scary stories about ovens at night? )) Save your fairy tales for fellow Armenians, they will believe in any bullshit, anyhow they hate the Turks.
              1. -4
                23 October 2020 22: 33
                Every Armenian in the womb already hates Turks, because genes remember genocide. You ask your two-faced fellow Jews what kind of "bullshit" genocide is.
                1. +3
                  23 October 2020 23: 23
                  Quote: newbie
                  Every Armenian in the womb already hates Turks, because genes remember genocide. You ask your two-faced fellow Jews what kind of "bullshit" genocide is.

                  Fighter-jan, why talk about duplicity? Either you are Rimbaud, and the Azerbaijanis are tomato traders who are not capable of anything, ten to one strong, then Putin help, Russia stop the war!
                  And if you hate the Turks so much - where is the loaf vigorous, where are your own Ararat-1,2,3 missiles, where are the battles on the Turkish border? Syria and Egypt were armed better than many of the Warsaw Pact countries, and the Soviet Army was there on their side ... so Turkey's membership in NATO is not an excuse hi And duplicity.
                2. +5
                  24 October 2020 08: 03
                  Quote: newbie
                  Every Armenian in the womb already hates Turks, because genes remember genocide. You ask your two-faced fellow Jews what kind of "bullshit" genocide is.

                  And that is why about 100 Armenians live in Turkey today? Why don't they go home to Armenia, but live in hated Turkey?
            5. 0
              23 October 2020 23: 08
              Find an article about Khojaly, and then talk about the atrocities of Azerbaijanis. Well, the Azerbaijanis very well remember those whom the Armenians expelled from Armenia. How they came with children in their arms, with old people on stretchers and with frostbitten legs, for they drove them out of Armenia in winter, without even allowing them to take warm clothes. And it happened before Sumgait and Baku. And the Azeri people remember how they were killed in Karabakh when the Armenians drove them out of there. They remember how old men were cut off their heads, and young women were raped in chorus in front of their husbands, relatives and children. It was the same before Sumgait and Baku.
            6. 0
              24 October 2020 00: 33
              in the kitchen and forced to watch the baby roast in the oven
              it will not be difficult for you to say which company the oven was, the Soviet ovens were not like the current ones with a review, and the dimensions were not particularly large. Only a sick person like you can have such thoughts in your head. If one of the members of the forum is familiar with the family of this schizophrenic, then warn his wife that she would keep the children from him further.
        3. -3
          23 October 2020 20: 29
          Quote: newbie
          In half measures, half steps, the Russian Federation has brought itself to the belt of instability around it.

          mnogohodovochka?)) Has the goal of closing, turn into autarky lite. The institute of "eternal leadership", under which from power only feet first, safely returned, about the "ring of enemies", which is compressed-unclenched like a sphincter, except perhaps in "Good night, kids". Managing the masses in autarky is easy and enjoyable.
          1. 0
            23 October 2020 20: 33
            The extinction of an empire begins with the loss of colonies, in this case the limitrophes.
            1. -1
              23 October 2020 20: 40
              Quote: newbie
              The extinction of an empire begins with the loss of colonies

              Empires, yes. And what does the RF have to do with it?
              1. -2
                23 October 2020 20: 57
                I don’t know, you know better. fool
              2. 0
                24 October 2020 01: 07
                And the name of the Russian Empire does not tell you?
                True, the vector of exploitation was the opposite, and as soon as the resources to maintain it run out, you will see
                1. -1
                  24 October 2020 09: 24
                  ... And the name of the Russian Empire does not tell you?

                  Do you think you live in the Russian Empire?
                  Is it naivety or stupidity?
        4. -1
          23 October 2020 20: 52
          To exactly the opposite. You will see, after the end of the Karabakh battle, all ties between the Russian Federation and Azerbaijan will double for the better, inside and out.
          1. +1
            23 October 2020 21: 15
            Why would? Yes, and we will lose Armenian brandy. Although the quality is so-so.
            1. +2
              23 October 2020 21: 58
              Are you a big connoisseur ?, not, so so. These are the dummies and dunno and now they rule the political elite of the Russian Federation. And what is the state of the Russian Federation losing in this case, at least for now, prestige. It gets worse.
              1. -1
                23 October 2020 22: 36
                Baghdasar, calm down. Why, is it forbidden to walk on TV?
                1. 0
                  23 October 2020 22: 47
                  Reduce the tone. At you and in a whisper. Nerves surrendered, do not be familiar, it is better to go breathe.
                  1. 0
                    23 October 2020 22: 50
                    And at this time you will insult us with a loud voice, right? You yourself need these tips.
              2. +3
                23 October 2020 23: 01
                And if without emotions and moralizing? A connoisseur is not an expert, but there is no normal Armenian cognac now. I am generally silent about Azerbaijani.
                1. 0
                  23 October 2020 23: 42
                  Cognac has always been
                  And it will always be
                  One
                  FRENCH
                  If Kurvasier - VSOP
                  If Martel is XO
                  If Hennessy is Paradise
                  Etc.
                  Everything else is brandy, of one quality or another.
                  1. 0
                    23 October 2020 23: 50
                    Armenians don't think so. Tell them request i'm better than whiskarik or sam drinks
                    1. +1
                      23 October 2020 23: 55
                      Before a heart attack, everything in a row - now occasionally semi-dry red drinks sad
                  2. 0
                    24 October 2020 00: 34
                    Actually, the owners of the Armenian horse are also French)
                    1. -2
                      24 October 2020 00: 51
                      Yes, but Armenia is not yet the French region of Charente))
                  3. 0
                    25 October 2020 16: 06
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Everything else is brandy, of one quality or another


                    Why is that? One Armenian treated last year from the Yerevan brandy company, aged 35 years. A very decent cognac. And no brandy. Immediately the difference with other drinks is felt. Those brandy, he has cognac.
                    1. +1
                      25 October 2020 16: 16
                      I understand what you are talking about))
                      Cognac is a drink produced in the city of Cognan (France) and the region (Charentino Region wink ). Everything else may be even tastier and higher quality - but it's brandy. I prefer Spanish Cava to any Champagne - but that doesn't make my favorite drink so hi
                      1. 0
                        25 October 2020 16: 22
                        It's hard to understand that. The technologies are the same 100%. Biochemistry is no different. Well, if an analogy, then the quality of two processors from Japan and Malaysia may be the same. And then they are the same thing. There will be no difference if the technology is followed inside and out. The same analogy can be applied to gear cutting machines from Germany and Russia.
                      2. 0
                        25 October 2020 16: 29
                        Once again - cognac is only what is produced in the city of the same name. hi
              3. -3
                23 October 2020 23: 29
                Quote: newbie
                Are you a big connoisseur ?, not, so so. These are the dummies and dunno and now they rule the political elite of the Russian Federation. And what is the state of the Russian Federation losing in this case, at least for now, prestige. It gets worse.

                But who will pick up Armenia? And, most importantly, why? Unless the Armenians from California will do IT projects there on outsourcing, which, by the way, is not a bad option. And not only Armenians.
                1. 0
                  24 October 2020 05: 02
                  Depending on the outcome of the US elections, the Americans may take it under their wing if they continue to put pressure on Iran. But the Americans are not Russia, they won't pour money in, pure pragmatics
              4. +4
                24 October 2020 09: 16
                Quote: newbie
                And what is the state of the Russian Federation losing in this case, at least for now, prestige. It gets worse.

                prestige in what?
                What didn't fit in for you?


                Quote: newbie
                x two-faced brothers Jews ask,

                Two-faced Jews fought for themselves, and at the beginning of any war the number of those who came to fight for their Motherland went off scale, not to mention the financial assistance of the diaspora.
                Something honest and straightforward Armenians with this is somehow difficult.
                only screams - fight for us - otherwise you will lose prestige laughing
                1. +3
                  24 October 2020 09: 27
                  Quote: atalef
                  Two-faced Jews fought for themselves, and at the beginning of any war the number of those who came to fight for their Motherland went off scale, not to mention the financial assistance of the diaspora.

                  You like the Jews to brag, but like the Armenians show off ..

                  Quote: atalef
                  Something honest and straightforward Armenians with this is somehow difficult.
                  only screams - fight for us - otherwise you will lose prestige

                  Armenia is for Russia, it is the same as Israel is for the United States. One headache and big expenses. wassat hi
            2. 0
              23 October 2020 23: 26
              Quote: Evil543
              Why would? Yes, and we will lose Armenian brandy. Although the quality is so-so.

              Noah - nothing like that. And Armenian compotes are super! And among the Russian Armenians there are figuratively good people. hi
              1. 0
                23 October 2020 23: 39
                hi Maybe Nitsche so Noah. Toka find him normal. The last time he took the tape in the tape.
            3. 0
              26 October 2020 10: 51
              Nothing, Azerbaijani brandy "GoyGel" or "Kurdemir" is much better. They even noted in the film "the meeting place cannot be changed." Fox and Larisa drank
        5. +3
          23 October 2020 22: 27
          Oh, stop whining. Azerbaijan even after the tragedy of January 20, 1990, forgave the Russians. They knew that it was the Kremlin, headed by the marked devil, and not the Russian people. To destroy our great homeland, the USSR. They knew that the Karabakh crisis was only a reason to break the union. The price for this was given to the Armenians by the Azerbaijani lands. We forgave, withstood, grew up, got stronger and still never once turned our backs to Russia. They know that anti-Nazi propaganda has long and firmly stuck in the minds of Russians. But everything returns to its place. We all observe how generosity, patience, diligence, brotherhood, friendship triumphs over bloodthirstiness, envy, treachery, parasitism.
          1. 0
            23 October 2020 22: 37
            Speak right hi
          2. -1
            23 October 2020 22: 44
            You are probably either lost by the topic. Damn it, why do some individuals think that I'm whining ?! Yours, by the ribs, I arrange the facts, who forgave whom what_ his personal business. Nobility from you? _ robbery, scam, lies and a knife in the back_ here is a portrait of a Turk. And to hell: the Russian Federation has made its choice_ flag in hand, the nearest future will show what it will cost. Well, you, your division, Azeri with the Turks will drink Russian blood.
            1. -2
              23 October 2020 22: 56
              It will not work this time to embroil Russia with the Turks. Gone are the days when the messengers could be bought, drunk or killed, and the real information could be replaced with the one that would lead to a war between them. Now communications allow leaders to communicate directly with each other. Who knows, maybe they are sitting in a group in WhatsApp and texting))
              1. 0
                24 October 2020 00: 29
                garik lives in its era of black-and-white analog TV with two channels) Ordinary Bagdasar, with the same reasoning) Having taken over TV studios, they think that people only listen to them, and macrons can be broadcast))
            2. +2
              24 October 2020 07: 19
              Quote: newbie
              RF made its choice_ flag in hand

              what does Russia have to do with it?
              Should Russia fight for you?
      2. -3
        23 October 2020 19: 34
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Livonetc
        Azerbaijan should hurry up.
        Winter is coming soon

        Not only because of this. And also, due to the fact that the resources of the countries are not endless and while Azerbaijan is winning, and with a clear advantage, this should be used. Because sooner or later, you will have to sit down at the negotiating table and the better your position on the confrontation field, the more confident you will feel at that table

        It would be better for Aliyev to now request negotiations Sergei, while there is a chance to officially take some of the territories .. Then everything can be much worse for Aliyev, I think so. hi
        In this conflict, none of the parties will win. In vain Azerbaijanis members of the forum are happy .. This is just the beginning hi No matter how it turns out that the Turks will throw them ... And Iran is very unhappy with all this, I am silent about Russia
        And then it will be difficult for EVERYONE!
        1. +3
          23 October 2020 19: 43
          hi
          Quote: Gordei
          And then it will be difficult for EVERYONE!
          It's not easy for everyone there. One exit of our troops to the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan already threatens to involve Russia in this conflict directly. and there Turkey can fit in ...
          No one wants this now, but in history, a century ago there was already a similar example that ended with the outbreak of world war
          1. +5
            23 October 2020 20: 07
            Quote: svp67
            hi
            Quote: Gordei
            And then it will be difficult for EVERYONE!
            It's not easy for everyone there. One exit of our troops to the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan already threatens to involve Russia in this conflict directly. and there Turkey can fit in ...
            No one wants this now, but in history, a century ago there was already a similar example that ended with the outbreak of world war

            The withdrawal of Russian troops to the border of Azerbaijan has three goals:
            1) To mark the border of the Azerbaijanis' advance so that it would not occur to anyone to cut through the corridor to Nakhichevan because of intoxication with victory;
            2) To prevent, thus, the involvement of the Russian Federation in the war - Armenia here becomes a victim of aggression;
            3) Show the Turks and Persians their presence in the Caucasus. hi
            1. +1
              23 October 2020 21: 16
              Will we bring the base to the border?
              1. 0
                23 October 2020 22: 31
                Not on your nelly
            2. -1
              23 October 2020 23: 22
              If Russia decided to show something there, it would have solved this conflict long ago. And then Turkey would not exist now and Russia would command the region. Just do not say that Russia could not force Armenia to fulfill the agreements. She could very well, and she had leverage on the Army. But Russia could not ... or did not want to?
          2. +3
            23 October 2020 21: 08
            Quote: svp67
            It's not easy for everyone there. One exit of our troops to the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan already threatens to involve Russia in this conflict directly. and there Turkey can fit in ...

            But it’s too risky to sit out, as in history it was already and recently too .. hi
            Quote: svp67
            No one wants this now, but in history, a century ago there was already a similar example that ended with the outbreak of world war

            That is why Russia needs to prevent this euphoria from blood and victories of some Fuhrer in conception again. Otherwise Sergey will be too late! soldier
            Zhirinovsky is knowingly shouting in the media that the threat to Russia comes from there (he is a Jew in part and he senses what will begin)
            A very difficult situation for Russia .. there are also elections in the US and everything is unclear. Maybe they provoke us with a specialist, etc.
            1. -1
              24 October 2020 05: 07
              Found someone to listen to, a corrupt jester. And so, the situation is very confusing all over the world.
              1. +3
                24 October 2020 08: 32
                Quote: Stock
                Found someone to listen to, a corrupt jester. And so, the situation is very confusing all over the world.

                He is of course a chatterbox and a clown then laughing , but sometimes he says things about which politicians at all levels are usually silent and are afraid to voice it ... and from him like water off a duck's back)))
        2. -1
          23 October 2020 20: 38
          Quote: Gordei
          It would be better for Aliyev to now request negotiations Sergey, while there is a chance to take part of the territories officially ... Then everything can be much worse for Aliyev, I think so

          Conversation? How much is the OSCE Minsk Group on NK chewing snot? since 1993? Do you want to leave the process at the mercy of her again so that she can merge it again? I do not deny that this boil is beneficial to Russia in its frozen state, but Aliyev, I believe, only needs Endlösung.
          1. +2
            23 October 2020 21: 20
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Conversation? How much is the OSCE Minsk Group on NK chewing snot? since 1993?

            These and those scorpions ..
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Do you want to leave the process at the mercy of her again so that she can merge it again? I do not deny that this boil is beneficial to Russia in its frozen state, but Aliyev, I believe, only needs Endlösung.

            We do not need a strong Azerbaijan, and even in a compartment with Turkey, this is unambiguous, and even more so if you are again going to stage the genocide of Armenia (this is recorded by the UN)
            You didn't think about it when the military operations began, massive shelling, etc.
            There are many victims among the civilian population ?????
            Russia in the UN has been appointed head of human rights ..))))) Especially probably laughing
            Oh, "fun" will be ..
            Let's ask for negotiations while Pashinyan is in power .. Russia will go to meet you unofficially. Pashinyan is a weed in Russia, we all do not like
            1. -4
              23 October 2020 22: 40
              ... if you are going to stage the genocide of Armenia again (this is recorded by the UN)

              Do you have an imaginary interlocutor? Whom are you talking to?
              ... Let's ask for negotiations

              Let's not mark a blizzard, dear.
              Hang on with your nonsense about genocide against Azerbots, there are as many as three of them here. Or more, I don’t follow.
              PS Are you not Meehan's incarnation? A blunt meter in the red zone is simple.
            2. -1
              23 October 2020 23: 31
              But tell me, a narrow-minded woman, why did not Russia worry about the murders of Azerbaijani children and peaceful Azerbaijani citizens at the time when Armenia attacked Karabakh? Or is it only the lives of Armenians that matter because they are Christian, and the lives of Muslim children are so, ugh, and rub? Why are there so many cries that Azerbaijan is at war with Armenia, and not a single word about the death of peaceful Azerbaijanis in cities that are very far from Karabakh, are dying from military strikes? Or eo the Azerbaijanis, so let them perish? And this despite the fact that Azerijan did not bomb a single Armenian city proper. As for Karabakh, Azerbaijan is fighting there on its territory. And the Armenians, who came there from other territories of Armenia, didn't they understand that sooner or later, Azerbaijan would return its land to itself? Did they not understand that this could be done by military means? Or they thought for another 30 years to play for time with the so-called. "peace" negotiations, from which there is no sense?
            3. -1
              24 October 2020 05: 11
              It's a strange logic, I personally would like Russia to be surrounded by strong, self-sufficient countries with a good neighborly attitude.
    6. +16
      23 October 2020 19: 26
      Quote: Livonetc
      Azerbaijan should hurry up.
      Winter is coming soon.

      From the Internet:
      “I watch the videos, and it seems that the Armenian troops now feel about the same as our grandfathers at 41.
      The enemy's aviation completely dominates, the vultures not only bomb everything that moves, but also chase individual soldiers. Our aviation is defeated, tanks burned down, the enemy is taking city after city and the blitzkrieg ice rink is unstoppable.
      In general, if history repeats itself, then the Azerwermacht should be stopped this winter near Yerevan, Stepanakert should become the second Leningrad, in May 2024 the Armenian flag will rise over Hagia Sophia, Erdogan will shoot himself in a bunker from Bayraktar, Aliyev fled to Moscow and retrained as a tomato seller. The victory parade will be held in Echmiyadzin. "
      But seriously, the 3 million Armenians in Russia in warm positions are strength. Here and the infantry to recruit, and funds for the purchase of air defense - everything is possible. The main desire.
      1. +4
        23 October 2020 19: 44
        The entire gene pool of Armenians in Russia and France. They do not participate in the war and are waiting for Russia!
      2. +11
        23 October 2020 19: 45
        The point is that there is only one conditionally large city in Karabakh - Stepanakert. The rest is really a trifle, but there are a lot of weapons on both sides, and the mountainous terrain is much more complicated than the plains of Donbass ... And secondly, Armenia is now isolated, neither Georgia nor Iran will allow military supplies through their territory, so that the Armenians are fighting for wear and tear, they have nowhere to wait for reinforcements, military equipment is spent, but not replenished, while Azerbaijan is restoring its resources and purchasing new weapons. Strategically - Azerbaijan is fighting correctly. They do not need to take cities, regardless of losses, for the next anniversary of the Party congress or for the birthday of the Leader.
        1. +1
          23 October 2020 19: 52
          Quote: denis obuckov
          but there are a lot of weapons on both sides, and the mountainous terrain is much more complicated than the plains of Donbass ...

          It depends on what kind of weapon. What is the use of riflemen, armored vehicles and barreled artillery / MLRS, if the sky is behind the Azerbaijanis, who declassify both arto and infantry from the air at once?
          1. 0
            23 October 2020 20: 01
            If they lose, then they need to temper their swollen ambitions that are getting out of their pants and sit down at the negotiating table. But they do not want to do this, and are waiting for Russia to start a nuclear war with Turkey for the sake of 15 Karabakh villages
            1. -2
              23 October 2020 20: 21
              The Armenians do not have any "swollen ambitions" that are coming out of their pants. They would have maintained the status quo. And no one expects a nuclear war. Even in the wildest dreams. Preserving what we have is the goal of the Armenians.
      3. NTD
        -6
        23 October 2020 19: 56
        Quote: Hyperion
        The enemy's aviation completely dominates, the vultures not only bomb everything that moves, but also chase individual soldiers. Our aviation is defeated, tanks burned down, the enemy is taking city after city and the blitzkrieg ice rink is unstoppable.

        before this line somehow agreed with you, write further nonsense.

        Quote: Hyperion
        But seriously, the 3 million Armenians in Russia in warm positions are strength. Here and the infantry to recruit, and funds for the purchase of air defense - everything is possible. The main desire.

        Seriously? Are fools sitting in the Kremlin? If they had the strength, the above would not have happened.
        1. 0
          23 October 2020 20: 06
          Quote: MTN
          before this line somehow agreed with you, write further nonsense.

          This is not my opinion. I indicated that this is "from the vastness of the Internet."
          Quote: MTN
          Seriously? Are fools sitting in the Kremlin? If they had the strength, the above would not have happened.

          But this is your nonsense. Armenians do not sit in the Kremlin.
          1. NTD
            -2
            23 October 2020 20: 24
            Quote: Hyperion
            But this is your nonsense. Armenians do not sit in the Kremlin.

            In general, I mean that if the diaspora or the lobby had played some role, they would not have been merged in Russia and the United States. Lobby only for Jews. This is the lobby!
            1. 0
              23 October 2020 20: 28
              Quote: MTN
              In general, I mean that if the diaspora or the lobby had played some role, they would not have been merged in Russia and the United States. Lobby only for Jews. This is the lobby!

              You're right. The Jews have a lobby! Steeper than Muslims. If you know what I mean...
            2. -1
              23 October 2020 20: 43
              If there were as many Azerbaijanis capable of fighting as bullshit they caught up on the Russian Internet, they would have conquered the whole world.
              1. 0
                23 October 2020 22: 41
                With all due respect, the internet has no national identity. The World Wide Web, however ..
      4. -2
        23 October 2020 20: 34
        The rear of 15 republics worked for our grandfathers, and who is in the rear of Armenia? And speaking of the 3 million Russian Armenians, do not forget about the 30 million Azerbaijanis of Iran and 83 million Turks. I am silent about 2,5 million Russians of Azerbaijanis.
        1. -1
          23 October 2020 20: 40
          Quote: KARAKURT777
          The rear of 15 republics worked for our grandfathers, and who is in the rear of Armenia?

          This analogy is humor. Black humor ...
          Quote: KARAKURT777
          don't forget about the 30 million Azerbaijanis in Iran

          How did these 30 million show themselves against the background of the war in Karabakh? At least they sent a battalion? No? That's the same!
          Quote: KARAKURT777
          I am silent about 2,5 million Russians of Azerbaijanis.

          Be silent on. For they have not shown themselves in any way. They don't need to. Azerbaijanis of Azerbaijan are getting along well anyway.
          1. -4
            23 October 2020 20: 52
            They were not sickly, they stopped the transfer of Russian weapons through the territory of Iran. You can google it, there are a lot of videos on this topic on the Internet. They burned several trailers going to Armenia at the Nurduz checkpoint. A 70 thousand army of volunteers has been formed, ready to force the Araz at any moment. It's funny and difficult to communicate with a person who is not in the subject.
            1. -2
              23 October 2020 20: 55
              In addition to words, are there links?
      5. +2
        23 October 2020 23: 36
        And why a hangover, albeit a joke, to compare this with the Great Patriotic War? There the Nazis came to our land, and then they came for their own to the invaders, who at one time in the same military way bit off a decent piece of the territory of Azerbaijan. And at that time no one had a heartache for the peaceful Azerbaijani population, which was expelled (at best), killed, but everyone was so worried about Armenia. Oh, poor Armenians, oh, how unfortunate they are, oh, they were genocided so many times ... Although, of course, Azerbaijanis are not Armenians, why should you worry about them and their children ...
        1. -6
          23 October 2020 23: 55
          If you don't like it, don't read it. Are you worried about Turkish animators, Lyuba? Do not be scared. They are not participating in battles yet.
          1. +1
            24 October 2020 21: 35
            I don't give a damn about anything. There just must be some kind of justice at least among ordinary people? Okay, politicians, God himself told them to be cynical. But have people really ceased to be people and divide everyone according to faith? Christians are good no matter what they do, because of the same faith with us. Muslims are a priori byaki, because they are not of our faith. Let us, if we really feel sorry for the children, then feel sorry for everyone, regardless of faith.
            1. 0
              25 October 2020 13: 01
              Quote: Lyuba1965_01
              But have people really ceased to be people and divide everyone according to faith?

              Oh, really? Whether it was before - everyone lived together, did not share by faith, ran around the lawns hand in hand ...
              Quote: Lyuba1965_01
              Christians are good no matter what they do, because of the same faith with us. Muslims are a priori byaki, because they are not of our faith.

              Is this your credo in life?
              Quote: Lyuba1965_01
              Let us, if we really feel sorry for the children, then feel sorry for everyone, regardless of faith.

              Why waste time on trifles? Let's feel sorry for everyone. Both children and adults. Go immediately to the UN and demand that from tomorrow all wars stop.
      6. 0
        24 October 2020 00: 17
        They have forgotten that Azerbaijani grandfathers fought shoulder to shoulder with the rest against the Nazis. And the Armenians are their direct followers of the fascists (the monument to Nzhdeh is proof of that). My grandfather volunteered for the front, and managed to fight the Japs. He returned all in medals, except for one leg, with splinters in his head and back. He lived until 1998, died of grief that the country for which he fought and worked despite his disability fell apart. I could not put up with this fact. Respect the memory of 600 thousand Azerbaijani sons at least !!!
        1. -2
          24 October 2020 11: 19
          What does your grandfather and 600 thousand Azerbaijanis have to do with it? It's just that the situation on the Karabakh front resembles the situation in the Great Patriotic War. Azerbaijanis are compared to Germans because they are advancing. Better go to Azerbaijani sites and teach history there to young people who write about "Russian occupants" and "corpse flooding."
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          2. 0
            24 October 2020 11: 36
            My joy, it's good to drink, I've been beating tambourines since yesterday.
            Quote: Hyperion
            Azerbaijanis are compared to Germans because they are advancing.

            Is this after the first one? belay
            Quote: Hyperion
            Better go to Azerbaijani sites

            Pathfinder? What did you throw in your native country, activist? feel
            1. -3
              24 October 2020 11: 38
              Come on by. I don't feed trolls on Saturdays.
              1. +1
                24 October 2020 11: 44
                Quote: Hyperion
                Come on by. I don't feed trolls on Saturdays.

                Go to the house, to the hut, feed your pigs further, as you have there, inside or outside wink
                1. -3
                  24 October 2020 11: 48
                  Quote: Not bad
                  Go to the house, to the hut, feed your pigs further, whatever you have there, inside or outside

                  What kind of pigs and vna? Are you delusional? You also stutter about booze. I suppose it's already ready in the morning.
                  1. +1
                    24 October 2020 11: 54
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    Quote: Not bad
                    Go to the house, to the hut, feed your pigs further, whatever you have there, inside or outside

                    What kind of pigs and vna? Are you delusional? You also stutter about booze. I suppose it's already ready in the morning.

                    Well, let's not be nervous, my joy Yes You don't need to jump out of your pants. Yes
          3. -3
            24 October 2020 12: 12
            Has malice made you blind and deaf !? Azerbaijan is attacking the occupants in its territories recognized by all countries of the world, including Russia and Armenia !!! How can you compare it with the Germans, rather the opposite
            1. +2
              24 October 2020 12: 18
              I agree with you, though you are both good (former Soviet republics) and there is no good to expect from you, do not be offended if everyone receives, albeit belatedly and separately for tinsel. hi
              1. -3
                24 October 2020 15: 47
                I fundamentally disagree about Azerbaijan. Let's list:
                1.Azerbadzhan has been providing Russia with oil for almost 100 years.
                2. Vegetables, fruits
                3. Transport hubs,
                4.working power
                Inaestiya in gorda.
                Development of the Russian community in Azerbaijan. Russian schools, Russian societies, libraries, and you can't list everything ...
                Some participants write with contempt the word tomato expert, etc. and you know how difficult it is to grow a tomato bush and bring it to Russia bypassing all this bureaucracy.


                To armenia ??? Please list yourself
                1. +3
                  24 October 2020 16: 00
                  Everything that you have listed is true, but how to call you later ..., ..., ..., ... and in other words? Europe is being swept aside by us, not you, but the fuck are we in need of us, in our underbelly, with our Turks? Do you have any questions about the Turks? Fly guy. Yes
                  1. -1
                    24 October 2020 16: 51
                    We are also a shallow Europe. About the fuck ... it's not for you to decide, choose expressions. The underbelly should be stable. We have stability and prosperity. Armenia is a sore spot. So they are treating)
                    1. +3
                      24 October 2020 17: 23
                      Quote: Buka001
                      select expression.

                      Zadolbali already with expressions, and then, not taken away, where will you go yourself, the spokesman do not know where or do not know what? Question? Where are you. In Russia, will you go there yourself?
                      1. +2
                        24 October 2020 17: 38
                        Quote: Rusland
                        Quote: Buka001
                        select expression.

                        Zadolbali already with expressions, and then, not taken away, where will you go yourself, the spokesman do not know where or do not know what? Question? Where are you. In Russia, will you go there yourself?

                        How many regions are in the forefront, so many bribes these ghouls have.
                      2. -3
                        24 October 2020 17: 40
                        Your dressed up aggression is inappropriate here !!!
                      3. +1
                        24 October 2020 17: 54
                        Quote: Buka001
                        Your dressed up aggression is inappropriate here !!!

                        And how do you understand, in a month, in a year? Will you understand your question yourself? You will be bent, well, sure. And instead of AI, there will be AI sighs. Get stronger. Yes
                    2. +2
                      24 October 2020 17: 34
                      Quote: Buka001
                      The underbelly must be stable

                      We got into a favorite position, isn't the person nice? sad
    7. +2
      23 October 2020 20: 33
      Quote: Livonetc
      Azerbaijan should hurry up.
      Winter is coming soon.

      Someday, the grandfather may win in Syria, and Azerbaijan and Armenia will all trample in Karabakh.
  2. +7
    23 October 2020 19: 13
    Yes, it seems that the bravado of the Armenians about the fact that "the walls of Carthage are inaccessible" came out to them almost the loss of Karabakh! But it was not pretend to prepare for war, since they did not want to solve the Karabakh problem peacefully.
    1. NTD
      -5
      23 October 2020 19: 31
      Quote: Thrifty
      Yes, it seems that the bravado of Armenians about the fact that "the walls of Carthage are inaccessible" came out to them almost the loss of Karabakh!


      “Never think that you already know everything. And no matter how highly you are appreciated, always have the courage to say to yourself: I am ignorant. Don't let pride take over you. Because of her, you will persist where you need to agree, because of her, you will refuse useful advice and friendly help, because of her you will lose faith in objectivity. "

      Ivan Petrovich Pavlov
    2. -3
      23 October 2020 19: 32
      The Armenians hoped for America. Let's see who wins.
      1. -2
        23 October 2020 21: 18
        Israel Win
        1. 0
          23 October 2020 23: 04
          Subtle English humor is not in fashion now
    3. -1
      23 October 2020 19: 44
      What does this have to do with the Armenians, Azerbaijanis and their military merits? There is a zone of Russian and Turkish influence, further on.
      1. -1
        23 October 2020 23: 38
        If Russia helped to resolve this conflict, then Transcaucasia would now be a zone of Russian influence. And then 30 years of waiting, but things are still there. Well, that means that is why. Russia has renounced its influence there, and a holy place is never empty. So Turkey took it.
  3. +3
    23 October 2020 19: 17
    The UN Secretary General said that there are no winners))), but it turns out ... the water is wet, and the sugar is sweet))))
    1. +3
      23 October 2020 19: 38
      Quote: Alexander Suvorov_2
      The UN Secretary General said that there are no winners))), but it turns out ... the water is wet, and the sugar is sweet))))

      But there are / will be winners. Who will get the NKR territory / will remain the winner, isn't it? If gaining / maintaining / returning territory is not a victory, then what is victory?
  4. +6
    23 October 2020 19: 19
    Also, battles are going on in the area of ​​the village "Red Bazaar", in the direction of Shushi and Stepanakert. As expected, a double strike from south to north in the direction of the Lachin corridor and in the direction of Shushi. Distracting blows in the north.

  5. +2
    23 October 2020 19: 23
    Quote: Livonetc
    Azerbaijan should hurry up.
    Winter is coming soon.


    Let's keep in mind ...
  6. -1
    23 October 2020 19: 25
    MLRS shelling of a road in the Berdzor area: the danger of a military blockade looms over Nagorno-Karabakh.
    Azerbaijanis. I am 110% sure they will leave Nagorno-Karabakh. Yes Sure.
    1. NTD
      +2
      23 October 2020 19: 48
      Quote: Observer2014
      Azerbaijanis, I'm 110% sure

      We are not Armenians who, like in Khojaly, give a corridor for civilians and then shoot at civilians, women, children, old people. These frames are present on the network.

      You are right with that. Let them go.
      1. -9
        23 October 2020 19: 59
        .We are not Armenianswhich ...
        .And not Azerbaijanis. Just take advantage of the momentary opportunity bully Then don't even think about it, there won't be any options.
        1. -4
          23 October 2020 20: 18
          Everything has come to a critical point. Yes Now someone will grab it in full. lol Yes
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      1. +3
        23 October 2020 20: 29
        What are your associations with Russians as simpletons? So you are on the verge of gasping! Yes am laughing Welcome to the new world! Russians are not simpletons. And not "Vanya will come and fix everything." negative .We Russians will do as we want Yes
    3. +2
      23 October 2020 21: 07
      Right. We will not kill civilians, we are not savages; but we do not need to leave Armenians there either - this is peace for our children. Let them go, there is no one else there.
      1. -4
        23 October 2020 23: 38
        Quote: Rubina
        Right. We will not kill civilians, we are not savages; but we do not need to leave Armenians there either - this is peace for our children. Let them go, there is no one else there.

        Will you eat them?
        If you try to do it, you will get a crowbar in your teeth Yes Literally.
        We don't like your creepy traditions request
  7. +1
    23 October 2020 20: 00
    [/ quote] Shelling from the MLRS of the road in the area of ​​Berdzor [quote]

    And since when did Lachin become Berdzor?
  8. -4
    23 October 2020 20: 02
    Quote: Krasnodar
    organized resistance of the Armenians.

    I'm sorry, what resistance did you say?
  9. 0
    23 October 2020 20: 06
    Today Pompeo meets with the Foreign Ministers of Armenia and Azerbaijan, perhaps soon everything will be settled
  10. -4
    23 October 2020 20: 07
    Quote: Krasnodar
    In addition to the counteroffensive from Armenia itself

    You probably don't know the geography of those places. With all the desire Tonoyan, who took over the defense of Lachin, it is almost impossible. Gin will be soaked in the neck of the jug))
  11. 0
    23 October 2020 20: 13
    Quote: MTN
    Pashinyan deceived Aliyev 2 times .......... will Aliyev go to the meeting?

    With a miscarriage? I don't think so))
  12. +1
    23 October 2020 20: 30
    Quote: Gordei
    Aliyev would be better off now to request negotiations

    Duc about this many (who are not in the subject) have been writing since the beginning of the war. Well, that's funny ..
  13. 0
    23 October 2020 20: 44
    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    mnogokhodovochka?)) Has the goal of closing, turning into autarky

    Or maybe it's really better to close and start solving your internal problems?
  14. 0
    23 October 2020 20: 46
    The moment of truth.
  15. +1
    23 October 2020 20: 46
    Pashinyan is slowly moving towards the goal - to drain Artsakh. Then, without frozen conflicts and with resolved territorial disputes, straight to NATO. At the same time, clearing the arsenals of Soviet weapons, freeing them up for NATO standards. Soon we can expect the closure of the military base in Armenia under the pretext that the Russians did not help, did not protect.
    1. 0
      23 October 2020 20: 58
      On the eve of 08.08.08, all persons of Georgian nationality were slightly pushed and no one made a sound. And the silence is complete, I accidentally learned from a friend of the district police officer about the "work done".
      1. +1
        23 October 2020 21: 45
        Quote: Alexander Kopychev
        On the eve of 08.08.08, all persons of Georgian nationality were slightly pushed and no one made a sound. And the silence is complete, I accidentally learned from a friend of the district police officer about the "work done".

        There was a case with others before .. It worked very effectively by the way .. I hope this work is being done now? After all, the people are mostly hucksters, and if their ... relatives at home will feel this very much wink

        And what else can men do when they don't want to listen and understand us?
        1. -3
          23 October 2020 22: 06
          I don’t understand? Where is Kadyrov? Why not threaten with conversation? Or is he in time trouble? Would help Pu to resolve issues with their fellow believers. But he is silent. But it was he who put out the fires in the Caucasus to extinguish. Unclear...
    2. 0
      23 October 2020 22: 01
      Since Turkey is a NATO member, it will block Armenia's admission.
  16. -5
    23 October 2020 20: 48
    It would be nice if the history of Karabakh would teach the Kremlin how dangerous it is to play with puppet republics instead of the normal incorporation of the territory into the Russian Federation.
    Armenia has played out with the NKR.
    And we have Transnistria, DPR and LPR, and even South Ossetia with Abkhazia. And all of them can try to select those who consider themselves "rightful owners". It is good if separately, otherwise they can conspire and strike at the same time.
    1. 0
      23 October 2020 21: 56
      With the DPR LPR Abkhazia and Ossetia, everything is easier in Ossetia, the Armed Forces are already included in the RF Armed Forces - if Georgia decides on a second attempt, this time ours will reach Tbilisi and will not leave from there, and the Georgian troops will be completely defeated. In the event of an attack by Ukraine, the LPR and LPR will have weapons and the necessary specialists, whatever one may say, and more than 500000 people have already received Russian passports there and continue to receive them. In the case of Transnistria, we can provide support with cruise missile strikes from air carriers and the Black Sea Fleet against the attackers.
  17. +2
    23 October 2020 22: 28
    Gentlemen, that's what's interesting to me. Look, the Armenian diaspora around the world is very large, and not poor, and also has a not bad lobby.
    And how do they help Armenia? And nothing.
    During the 2nd MV, emigrants from Russia in France, who did not agree with the Soviet regime, still joined the Resistance and fought against the Nazis.
    And how are Armenians all over the world helping Armenia now? And nothing, where the ass is warmer, there is the homeland
  18. +1
    23 October 2020 22: 35
    Quote: newbie
    Every Armenian in the womb already hates Turks.

    This is the truth.
  19. +2
    23 October 2020 23: 27
    They say Azerbaijan was bought by the leadership of Armenia for big $$$ through Soros. This is not a war, but the self-destruction of Armenians.
    Fight suicide without air defense.
  20. +1
    23 October 2020 23: 47
    Quote: KARAKURT777
    How can we be far from the Turks? We are the Turks. It is thanks to Stalin that we turned into Azerbaijanis. It's time to understand this.




    We are Azerbaijani Turks, but we and the Ottoman Turks are two different peoples with common Turkic roots, sometimes Russians do not understand.
    At one time, the question "who are you?" a resident of Azerbaijan answered 1. Muslim. if they only specified, then they said 2. Turk.
    It should be remembered that Persia, as the state of the Persians, ceased to exist. Later in this region, the Azerbaijani clan Qajars, the roots of whose founder are from Ganja, uniting the Azerbaijani lands, subsequently annexed the lands of the disintegrated Persian empire to them, which is why the state language in the Qajar state was Farsi (Persian). At the same time, at the court and in the army, the language of communication was only Azerbaijani, in the army so few people spoke Farsi, since the composition of the armed forces consisted of more than 90% only of Azerbaijani Turks. Most government positions were held only by Azerbaijani Turks.
    Azerbaijan and Armenia are geographical names, so there were no Azerbaijanis and no Armenians. The self-names of these peoples are different, some call themselves - Turks, others - Hai.
    We all know the Haye tales about Great Armenia, we also all know that the Azerbaijani Turks, after recapturing their northern lands, were called Transcaucasian Tatars, and then, with the light hand of Stalin, Azerbaijanis.
    The Azerbaijani Turks were rewritten so many times by distorting history that when a proposal was made to return to the true name and the subject of the native language, instead of the Azerbaijani language, to name the Turkish language, many in Azerbaijan stood on their hind legs and applauded when the president, by his decree, put an end to the name "Azerbaijani language ". Paradoxically, the pro-Turkish forces, and not, for example, local traditionalists, feared most of all this, a return to the origins, clearing their own history from the rubbish of lies of the times of the Russian Empire and the USSR. Many in Azerbaijan are drugged by the novelty story of 1918, which is primarily associated with the First World War and the struggle between the Entente countries on the one hand and Germany and its ally Turkey on the other. The so-called Azerbaijan Democratic Republic is a project of the German-Turkish special services, and its leader, Mamed Emin Rasulzade, is a pure-bred agent of the German-Turkish special services, whom they picked up in the revolutionaries they themselves formed and patronized.
    Logically, after the collapse of the Russian Empire, the territory of the present Azerbaijan Republic plus part of the lands within the Russian Federation, Georgia and newly built Armenia, were to return to the fold of the Azerbaijani Qajar state, and it existed until 1925. But this was unprofitable for Germany and Turkey, since the Qajar state was an ally of England, and at a certain stage England did not want this either, betting on the Armenians, whom it used to weaken and undermine Turkey, and plus BAKU OIL. And also an important factor is the farces that began to raise their heads and raved about their former Empire, a significant increase not only in territory, but also in the Turkish population with an increase in its number in the state, they were clearly not satisfied.
    Now the story is almost the same ...
    1. -1
      24 October 2020 00: 00
      Yes Yes colleague. Yes !!! And at the same time they learned to write thanks to Stalin and the Soviet regime itself. Armenians are also still those enlightened people. Everyone is told that they are the smartest. laughing wassat
  21. 0
    24 October 2020 00: 45
    Quote: Livonetc
    Now is the moment of truth.
    If the Armenians do not hold out now, they will no longer hold any territory of Karabakh.
    And the Azerbaijanis understand this well.

    Well yes. Azerbaijanis understand this well. But the Armenians don't know)
    This is because they do not read VO.
    Once. They are at war, you know.
    Many people here argue what will happen if Azerbaijan takes Berdzor, Shushi, Stepanakert. The commanders of the battle sofas went further and calculated what would happen if the Azerbaijanis took the Armenian Zangezur.
    But once upon a time there were already people who thought the same way.
    Then they realized that they had missed one important word in these bravura speeches.

    If ...
    1. 0
      24 October 2020 01: 12
      Calling Lachin a berdzor, the weight of your skeleton glows on the X-ray screen. You have a tumor.
      1. 0
        24 October 2020 02: 08
        Yes, it's a protective screen hanging on your monitor. You change the monitor, tea is not the nineties in the yard))
        Listen, well, I understand the Russians, they can only see information from pictures. But you surely, like me, communicate with your own people who are there now.
        You wrote 2 days ago that yours cut the road from Berdzor to Goris. And they are going along it right now. As there today your bravo reported, they say we have tanks, like that cat's shoe polish. And we can't see the armored fists. You try to seep in small groups, but it doesn't work. You know, in Stepanakert they already know that if they fire on the city, then they got it at the front. And if they are heavily fired upon, then they broke in on you, I don't want to.
        So today the shelling was fierce.
        You yourself didn’t notice that your MOs have become standard videos: the same gun is blown up ten times from the same angle.
        Some sort of shed was blown up, Fattulaev writes on the hackin: "The command post of the Armenians is destroyed." And such reports are everywhere.
        Tell me, do you know how many young guys will not return to their parents after this adventure of yours? Honestly.
        Armenians publish lists of names every day. And your data is classified.
        And why? Because the truth can shake the whole of Azerbaijan.
        Okay, people have never been with us, they only watch YouTube, but you were. You then understand that for the fourth day your only trump card - Turkish drones, can no longer change the situation.
        You understand that the Armenians do not sit on the websites now and they do not read your victorious reports. And they are.
        Martakert, Martuni, Omar pass, Berdzor, everywhere you crash against the Armenian mountains.
        Chickens, they say, are counted in the fall. And the results of the war are summed up when it ends.
        And it's not over yet.
        It's not over yet.
        You have not seen the face of that 20-year-old boy who said that the only thing he regretted was that so many good guys died. You can be sure there will be demand for everything.
        As for Harutyunyan's letter to Putin, I see you have not seen the main thing. You, in your manner, see weakness in nobility. But Harutyunyan did not ask Putin to come to Artsakh and fight for the Armenians. He asks to stop war, destruction and death. He is a man who has seen all this with his own eyes more than once.
        Aliyev sits in his palace, never in his life that he is not on the front line.
        He never stained his shoes. Looks at monitors and accepts victory reports. And therefore, he does not care about the number of boys who died. Neither his son, nor his friends, no one from his circle of contacts has ever been and does not plan to be in a trench.
        Therefore, all that worries Aliyev is not to lose face. Harutyunyan is worried that people stop dying.
        You shouldn't think that he or the guys on the front end were scared. Every normal person experiences fear in war. Everyone knows perfectly well that normal life will never be as long as Aliyev has at least a couple of soldiers. Therefore, this war can end with only one thing - a change of power in Azerbaijan. And my advice to you, start planning your future based on this premise right now.
        1. 0
          24 October 2020 02: 25
          I shouldn’t have bothered and wrote such a long post. We will not give Karabakh back to you, we will return ours. Take pity on your people and young people, do not force them to perish on the lands of Azerbaijan. Calling Lachin-berdzor, Karabakh some kind of Tsakh, they will not become yours. You for the sake of your land ambitions, for the sake of 100 thousand Armenians, in 1991-94 they killed 30 thousand Azerbaijanis, expelled a million Azerbaijanis from their villages and towns. Have you ever seen the state of your these settlements? The pictures of these cities and villages themselves are screaming barbarians.
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            24 October 2020 02: 55
            Nobody was going to settle them down until the issue with Azerbaijan was resolved. It was a buffer zone. For the passage through which many askars and equipment had to lie. Which is exactly what happened. Jebrail, Fizuli, Zangelan, Kubatly districts are extremely sparsely populated land, which was impossible to develop without fully solving the issue with Azerbaijan. You better compare, for clarity, Stepanakert and Gandzak (or as you call it Ganja), by the way, the second largest city in Azerbaijan. And if Stepanakert is a beautiful and comfortable city, then Gandzak, or rather what you turned it into, is a slum with a clinging facade.
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              24 October 2020 03: 06
              "What you've turned it into is a slum with a sticky façade." Well, yes, we have a long educational work on our neighbors, even after the war, to remove the film of hatred from their eyes, so that the facades do not seem crooked. Indeed, I feel sorry for you.

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                24 October 2020 03: 14
                You better have pity on your dad.
                Today he was pinched painfully on the soft spot.
                For the Ukrainians did not have to declare that they were planning to collect bayraktars.
                So they began to remind your dad that the head can spin, and he is not young already, it is harmful to him.
                Whatever happens.
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      24 October 2020 01: 13
      It is already possible to state that Azerbaijan, the whole of Karabakh, will definitely seize ammunition and weapons for them Israel and Turkey supply every day Azerbaijan has an overwhelming superiority in artillery, as well as in technology, and seeing what stuffing drone drones with infantry arrange there every day, the Armenians, similarly, every day the incentive to fight becomes everything less.
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        24 October 2020 01: 36
        Vadim. For many years now you have been obsessed with Azerbaijani drones. You were not taken into the circle of model aircraft in due time?
        When you state something, do you want to convince yourself of something? Why are you such a certain Cassandra?
        I offer you a fairly simple option. Let events take their course. And when they reach their final, you will rest on your laurels.

        If a.
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          24 October 2020 12: 24
          There is an investment project at the expense of drones - for their creation and production, including military kamikaze drones for the Ministry of Defense.
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    24 October 2020 11: 36
    Quote: Observer2014
    Yes Yes colleague. Yes !!! And at the same time they learned to write thanks to Stalin and the Soviet regime itself. Armenians are also still those enlightened people. Everyone is told that they are the smartest. laughing wassat
    Monuments of Turkic writing are located in Russia and Mongolia, I'm afraid the Khayi then did not know who they were, but the "Russians" or "Rus", "Rusichs" then did not take shape at all and did not exist, as a result of migration and assimilation of many peoples, including of Turkic origin.

    From time immemorial, writing has been in Azerbaijan, the alphabet used has only changed. In the beginning, the Bolsheviks shoved Latin letters for everyone instead of Arabic, and then, frightened by Pan-Turkism, they replaced the Latin alphabet with Cyrillic.

    Now in the Russian Federation, the insanity continued in this regard, when it was decided that the basis for the alphabets of national languages ​​could only be the Cyrillic alphabet. In order to understand, in fact, all the earlier about the Slavs and the Slavs is written in the Tatar / Turkish language and the Arabic alphabet. True, only Belarusians calmly treat their "kitabs" of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, in Russia this topic is carefully avoided, although it is enough to look at many utensils and weapons decorated with Arabic script in the country's largest museums.
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    24 October 2020 11: 51
    Quote: genisis
    Nobody was going to settle them down until the issue with Azerbaijan was resolved. It was a buffer zone. For the passage through which many askars and equipment had to lie. Which is exactly what happened.
    Um, in terms of losses both in equipment and in personnel, despite the fact that in defense (!!!), the Armenians, as always, are ahead of the rest of the planet. Apparently the poor fellows were not warned that the first place in this standings ends in defeat.

    Azerbaijan was able to land an attack drone produced by the military-industrial complex of Armenia, impressed, the sight of this made an indelible impression:




    Well, now the scales will definitely tilt in favor of Armenia, and we will watch videos of the Armenian Defense Ministry every day ...
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    24 October 2020 17: 06
    I can't understand, the summary seems to be from the website of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia, which "nkr", which kchatag or berdzor?)) Erotic Armenian fantasies) Lachin is the territory of the Republic of Azerbaijan (AR), (not even included in Nagorno-Karabakh) and according to international recognized by the administrative-territorial division (classification) of the AR, this territory is called the Lachin region of the Azerbaijan Republic and nothing else.
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    24 October 2020 17: 22
    Quote: Warrior-80
    Yes, bastard you, that now Turkey does not ship weapons and militants to Azerbaijan, or Israel itself, it is clear that Armenia throws soldiers and equipment to Karabakh, this is an obvious fact

    What other Karabakh?) After the general mobilization, Pashinyan ordered to organize from the citizens of Armenia and Armenians who arrived from abroad, "volunteer" detachments, at least 30 people from each municipality of Armenia + supposedly Armenians from abroad. One thing, I didn't understand, why did he need a general mobilization then?) It looks like the convulsive movements of the Fuhrer with the Volkssturm and the Werewolf militia in anticipation of Wenck's army)) There are generally many analogies of the actions of the Armenian under-Fuehrer with the hysterical, paranoid actions of the Nazis. For example, shelling from Scuds and Tochki-U cities (residential areas) hundreds of kilometers away. from the front line (including Ganja, Mingechaur State District Power Plant and the dam, resort Gabala, Naftalan and other cities, even in the north of Azerbaijan). Typical indiscriminate attack by the Nazis with FAU 1 and FAU 2 missiles in English cities in the Armenian version.
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    24 October 2020 17: 59
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    To exactly the opposite. You will see, after the end of the Karabakh battle, all ties between the Russian Federation and Azerbaijan will double for the better, inside and out.

    Undoubtedly. We are close neighbors and are connected to too many, and Azerbaijanis, even theoretically, do not accept the idea of ​​even some minimal possibility of breaking off ties with Russia and the Russian people: cultural, economic, friendly, etc.
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    25 October 2020 15: 42
    What are you all about the friendship between Pashinyan and the United States. Over at Valdai, Putin spoke about his friendship with Erdogan !!!! From the words of PUTIN, SUCH PARTNERS STILL NECESSARY TO SEARCH !!! So enough about Pashinyan !!! The war would have happened anyway. The Armenian people are not fighting for Pashinyan !!!!