Zelensky said that “those who surrendered Crimea without a fight” should be held accountable

Today, the President of Ukraine delivered an annual message to the People's Deputies of the Parliament - the Verkhovna Rada. Vladimir Zelensky's speech is devoted to a number of issues of both foreign and domestic policy. One of the topics raised by the president-comedian concerned the Crimean peninsula.

According to Zelensky, expressed to the deputies, all those persons who "surrendered Crimea without a fight must be held accountable."

At the same time, the Ukrainian president added that this is not about revenge, but "restoration of justice."

Zelensky added that Ukraine is building “a modern army that will be able to defend statehood on land, on water, in the air, as well as in cyberspace.

Zelensky:

We are doing this so that no one else has the idea that it is possible to encroach on our sovereignty, our territorial integrity, or to take away part of Ukraine's territory without firing a single shot. It will not happen.

At the same time, Mr. Zelensky did not specify what exactly his words about responsibility mean for those who “surrendered Crimea without a fight”. Do you mean only servicemen who went over to the side of Russia, or are we talking about the then Ukrainian authorities, including, for example, Alexander Turchinov?

Perhaps no one in Ukraine already expects any concretization from Zelensky, since people have already got used to the fact that most often his statements remain just statements.

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[Kamchatsky]

The main thing is not to come out on yourself!

[Servisinzhener]

And there, in principle, there are no other options.

[Nasrat]

Something even I am not a Ukrainian, somehow ashamed of him .... edrit, what a shame ... his speech, only slogans .. and Mova reads in fragments - in general, the performance works out ... Becoming president, and remained an actor!

[Tatyana]

Zelensky:

We are doing this so that no one else has the idea that it is possible to encroach on our sovereignty, our territorial integrity, or to take away part of Ukraine's territory without firing a single shot. It will not happen.

At the same time, Mr. Zelensky did not specify what exactly his words about responsibility mean for those who “surrendered Crimea without a fight”.

It is noteworthy that Zelenskiy "remembered" this after his recent visit to the MI6 British Intelligence Office in London.
Obviously, the the British gave him instructions - in particular, to obtain a PERMISSION from the Ukrainian population at the beginning of the BIG war between Ukraine and Russia.
Because such a statement EXACTLY NOW from the head of state of Ukraine nothing else can be called a PREPARATION of Ukraine for a big war with Russia.
For such a statement is an integral part of such preparation. Namely.

There is a certain RULE for starting an aggressive war.
In order for an aggressor country to start a war against a victim country, it needs to fulfill the following conditions:
1. Have adequate military infrastructure and weapons.
2. Have allies in other countries. (For Kiev, these are London, the USA, Turkey and other NATO countries ...)
3. Have in your country the appropriate number and personnel of military personnel and conscripts in reserve.
4. Get the government and the commander-in-chief the consent from their people to start a war against the future country-victim of aggression.
For this, the instigators of the war need to demonize the country that is the victim of aggression so that the aggression in the eyes of the people of their country and the world community looks like a fair and indicative punishment of the victim as an alleged objective world retribution.

[BDRM 667]

Zelensky said that “those who surrendered Crimea without a fight” should be held accountable

Soon they will have important (if not more) elections for Zelensky, and therefore such statements.
All this, in general terms, we could observe during his presidential election campaign with a promise - "There will be landings"...

So it is here. " surrendered Crimea without a fight "," will be held responsible "

The sad thing is that most likely a naive Ukrainian voter will again fall for this bait.

[Nasrat]

Quote: Tatiana

... get PERMISSION from the Ukrainian population at the beginning of the BIG war between Ukraine and Russia.
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like, we have already finished the small one in Donbass, now they are going to the BIG ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: Nasr

Quote: Tatiana

... get PERMISSION from the Ukrainian population at the beginning of the BIG war between Ukraine and Russia.

like, we have already finished the small one in Donbass, now they are going to the BIG ...

The Anglo-Saxons and Erdogan need Crimea to the bone!

Zelensky, looking at Turkey's support for Azerbaijan in the war between Azerbaijan and the NKR, has already received assurances from Erdogan himself of Turkey's support in Kiev's seizure of the Russian Crimea. You have to understand - for the promise to receive by Turkey from Kiev - in exchange for this help - the corresponding Ukrainian territories and other political and economic preferences.

[Nasrat]

Quote: Tatiana

Zelensky, looking at .....

Zelensky is guided by - "stroking .."? Then he is stupider than just a clown!

Quote: Tatiana

to support Turkey of Azerbaijan in the war between Azerbaijan and the NKR ,.

Azerbaijan was allowed to start an operation in NK. And they were allowed from Moscow. Otherwise, the Russian General Staff is not competent (and this is in close proximity to Russia !?) and would frantically try to help Armenia with armaments ... Which is not there in principle. .Azerbaijan is trying to adhere to the agreements and does not shell the territory of Armenia, as such, although it could.
So Turkey is playing its role in this conflict, and is stifling the whole movement in Moscow ...

Quote: Tatiana

from Erdogan himself in support of Turkey in the seizure of Russian Crimea by Kiev ..

Are you seriously?

[PSih2097]

I do not consider Erdogan mentally unstable (Imbecile), he must understand that in your version of events, Turkey will cease to exist both as a state and as a nation ...

[Servisinzhener]

UAVs they will sell them there is nothing like that. And most likely the supporters of the Mejlis will be armed (not for free), advisers will be sent. But the transfer of Turkish troops to the Kherson region in order to capture Crimea together with the Ukrainians will not. If it rides, then Ukraine will have to share the territory with Turkey. Because in fact, it will be under the control of pro-Turkish militants. And if it doesn't work, that's most likely. Those themselves are fools.
Erdogan has nothing to lose in any case. In case of victory, it expands its territory and makes money on the sale of weapons, in case of failure, it simply makes money on the sale of weapons to Ukraine.

[Servisinzhener]

Azerbaijan was allowed to start an operation in NK. And they were allowed from Moscow.

Rather did not say NO... This is not surprising given the political position of the west-oriented Ijevan builder of the second Switzerland in one single country.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Tatiana

To do this, the instigators of the war need to demonize the country-victim of aggression

Naturally. Do not remember that they put on full pants and surrendered without a single shot. And now, of course, we need to look for the extreme. Like someone did not give an order, someone on the contrary, such as "did not want bloodshed" and other crap. Yes, they did it (and all of them), naturally, that they do not want to admit it. There are many videos on the network when small groups of "green men" took control of Ukrainian military units, airfields and so on. And not a single Ukrainian commander, or sentry, remembered neither the oath, nor the charter of the guard service, nor the duty, nor the honor (which they never had before). Forgot everything clean. These are the "fighters", they knew perfectly well who they were dealing with and if something happened, they would immediately scoop them out in full. And waving fists after a "fight" is a purely Ukrainian national amusement. "And we are for sho."

[KreAtiF]

It seems to me that everything is much simpler. Elections are coming, though local, but still ...

[Tatyana]

Quote: KreAtiF

Elections are coming, though local, but still ...

I agree with you - not without it. Namely.

Local elections in Ukraine are scheduled for October 25, 2020.
At the same time, the factor of leadership of the President of the country - President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky - will work in LOCAL elections. Moreover, the rating of Zelensky himself is still in 1st place and is at least 2-fold ahead of his political competitors.
Accordingly, the leadership factor of Zelensky himself pulls behind him the leadership of his team in the person of the President's Servant of the People party in the LOCAL elections. And this is even despite the fact that the rating of the pro-presidential Servant of the People party has significantly decreased compared to last year.

Nevertheless, the "Opposition Platform - For Life" is already breathing in the back of the head of the Servant of the People party in the local elections.

According to the poll "Monitoring public opinion of the population of Ukraine: assessments and sentiments on the eve of local elections", the rating of "Servant of the People" is 25,9%, "Opposition Platform - For Life" - 22%, "European Solidarity" - 14,2%, " Batkivshchyna "- 9,5%.

See in detail - https://ukraina.ru/news/20201020/1029309455.html

[Tatyana]

Quote: KreAtiF

It seems to me that everything is much simpler. Elections are coming, though local, but still ...

Elections by elections - however, the external colonial control of Ukraine by London and Washington is not going anywhere.

Great Britain and the United States in Ukraine - especially regarding their seizure of the Russian Crimea - have and are realizing their ANGLOSAXON national interests!
And Zelensky himself, together with Poroshenko, is their Anglo-Saxon globalist "PROJECT", which was frankly highlighted by the British intelligence service MI6.

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana

Because such a statement EXACTLY NOW from the head of state of Ukraine can only be called PREPARATION of Ukraine for a big war with Russia.

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Well, he (Zelensky) "fell for it" ..... it means he - kamikaze!

[Tatyana]

Quote: venik

Quote: Tatiana

Because such a statement EXACTLY NOW from the head of state of Ukraine can only be called PREPARATION of Ukraine for a big war with Russia.

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Well, he (Zelensky) "fell for it" ..... it means he - kamikaze!

It's just that Zelensky is a very narrow-minded in politics and a very vain person, like many artists. He embarked on all the grave deeds that his predecessor Poroshenko.

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana

It's just that Zelensky is a very narrow-minded in politics and a very vain person, like many artists.

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Somehow you do it delicately..... "narrow-minded in politics" ... "vain people (?) "....
Let's face it: Narcissistic, stupid, deceitful and corrupt bastard! This definition suits him better! And about the artists ..... In my opinion, the "ceiling" of his "artistic abilities" is:

[Tatyana]

Definitely, I am with you "for" this - more accurate - your definition of the characteristics of all Zelensky!
Zelensky is a pea jester on stage, a layman and sycophant of his foreign masters in politics!

[venik]

Quote: Tatiana

Zelensky is a pea jester on stage, a layman and sycophant of his foreign masters in politics!

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In addition, he is cowardly to the extreme! If the previous one ("Pig Fuhrer Giblets"), due to his pathological greed, had to be "bribed", then this is enough just poke.... And he, with his tail between his legs and piteously whining, immediately hides under the table! Just an IDEAL (for the "West") candidacy!

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Nasr

Having become president, he remained an actor!

Ze-president, then just a comedian, was brought a summons seven times from the military registration and enlistment office.
And seven times the valiant "defender of the fatherland" hovered from the draft in sworn Russia, earning a pittance from the hated invaders ...
And now, on you - I'm going to judge the cowards who surrendered the Crimea without a fight ...
The judge is defective ...
How else did Erdogan not unscrew his testicles in Turkey, take revenge for the "mustachioed cockroach"? ..

[Bayan]

Quote: Nasr

Something even I am not a Ukrainian, somehow ashamed of him .... edrit, what a shame ... his speech, only slogans .. and Mova reads in fragments - in general, the performance works out ... Becoming president, and remained an actor!

With frightened eyes forever ..)))

[major147]

comedian president

what kind of "president" is he? Just a comedian!

[Cananecat]

Since there are no persons who can be held accountable for the creation of the state, it is necessary to find those who surrendered Crimea ...)))

[Real Pilot]

He puts the question wrong!
Not "who surrendered Crimea without a fight," but "who started a civil war."

And as soon as the question changes its tone in this way, changes for the better will begin in the former Ukrainian SSR!

[VORON538]

Not "who surrendered Crimea without a fight," but "who started a civil war."
So this will have to clean the immediate environment and mess with Europe and the United States
Who will allow such a buffoon?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: VORON538

So this will have to clean the immediate environment

In the surrounding environment, there are also those who can be cleaned and who cannot. And to Europe and the United States in Ukraine, these rules are inapplicable, since the owners of slaves can punish, but not the slaves of the owners.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: RealPilot

He puts the question wrong!
Not "who surrendered Crimea without a fight," but "who started a civil war."

Everything goes according to a simple scenario "Hit your own so that others are afraid." And simply the beginning of the "witch hunt". In MI6 he was given the correct "order".

[venik]

Quote: Kamchatka

The main thing is not to come out on yourself!

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"When you lose your temper ... don't forget to close the door behind you!"

[Terenin]

According to Zelensky, expressed to the deputies, all those persons who “surrendered Crimea without a fight should be held accountable

It would be nice if, in response, Putin spoke similarly about "surrender without a fight to the USSR"

[Alex Justice]

The main thing is not to come out on yourself!

And Turchinova

[Kot_Kuzya]

Clown. What a pathetic he is, the same spineless weakling, stupid and coward like Gorbachev. Causes only contempt by its appearance. Even Poroshenko is a more independent figure compared to him.

[Kamchatsky]

The Americans meant gunpowder, but this one finally ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Kamchatka

Americans had

where are they ... ?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Kamchatka

Americans had

where are they ... ?

In view they meant, in view of ... What did you think?
And the Americans are not even interested in this, it seems ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Zoldat_A

What did you think?

scary to say

[askort154]

The Americans meant gunpowder, but this one finally ...

To be more specific, then Biden and Bidenenok. And Richard Moore and Erdogan began to have this young, artist-clown.

[fruc]

It's like in a comedy movie: "Dumb and Dumber"

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: frruc

"Dumb and Dumber"

stupid still needs to be earned

[NEOZ]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

like Gorbachev

this is a pathetic breed of hump ...

[Russobel]

Even Poroshenko is a more independent figure compared to him.

Yes, I agree.
Giblets finally, kid, screwed up, lied and dumped.
And this amoeba is amphora ... no words, it was necessary to prepare.
Issue a Peace Prize!

[Sergey Obraztsov]

Yes Yes Yes. Poroshenko planted, found a compromise with the Russian language, brought peace to the east of Ukraine. Now another fairy tale.

[Deniso]

The hopes of young men are nourished. A.S. Pushkin

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

why didn't Ze himself rush to defend Crimea ?!

[figwam]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

why didn't Ze himself rush to defend Crimea ?!

He had no time, he starred in films in Moscow.

[Terenin]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

why didn't Ze himself rush to defend Crimea ?!

What does "no fight" mean? As in the joke:
... I caught a bear.
- Well, take him syudy.
- I can't, he won't let me.

[tralflot1832]

The death penalty was abolished in Ukraine! And so some Bandera members of others would shoot in front of the formation, it's time to kill each other, not violate the lot of all revolutions. It's time to devour your "children." This does not apply to the Great October Revolution. in Ukraine is not observed, from the word at all.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I think Zelensky was named incorrectly in the article. Needed - Clown President Zelya! That's more accurate. And you shouldn't even pay attention to his strained, convulsive chatter before the already lost elections: nothing will be done anyway, idle chatter is chatter.

[Sergey Obraztsov]

Lord, where a person spends time and energy. Municipal elections are just around the corner, after which he will be pulled up on the yard, because he did not have an electoral advantage before, and after the law on land ... The constitutional majority did not use it. He drove the country even more into the IMF debt hole, unemployed citizens who are not allowed to pick strawberries in the EU are sitting without money and work. And after Medvedchuk's arrival in Moscow, Putin is ringing the bell lifting sanctions on three enterprises focused on the sale of products in the Russian Federation, which, as it were, gives them the opportunity to create these jobs ... Oh, I do not envy Zelensky.

[taiga2018]

When he was just elected in Russia, many said that we would have such a president. I would like to ask, do you still want the same?

[NEOZ]

Quote: taiga2018

Many said that we would have such a president. I would like to ask, do you still want the same?

sure! they are 100% in Russia want the same! he is so happy with the United States !!!!!

[antivirus]

finally Turchinov and Parubiy will be sent to Kolyma - bears and deer will be happy

[BIABIA]

Shoot, definitely! And Yaytsenyuk is at the same time with them. They surrendered, after all, without a fight ...

[antivirus]

Yatsyka - to Alaska, Yukon to scoop out pots ......................................... .................................................. ..................

[The leader of the Redskins]

Yeah .. Right now! Turchinov is still a Jew - he published a transcript ahead of time, in which in black and white that "... he is the only one who voted for the force option ..."
I will not be surprised if the pastor is still awarded and set as an example!

Well, Paruby will lisp in front of the investigators until they smell like a hand - you still can't understand anything ...

[Kot_Kuzya]

Are you so naive? How old are you? Nobody will judge Turchinov and Parubiy.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

He is not naive, but just a Ukrainian provocateur.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Be careful!!! The red leader cannot be indifferent to comments and will definitely put a minus on you, and then he will certainly complain to the system administrator about you afterwards.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Turchinov should be insulted ??? Why insult Jews ??? Why do they even need to be compared ???

[41st region]

He has nothing to do in the Far East. Normal people live here. And bears. And deer.
And let the State Department adopt this. Well, or Rzecz Pospolita. There "non-workers" are needed. On cotton and strawberry plantations.

[Ren]

Yes, Vazelin's fate is not enviable.
But he was once a good KVN player, not a bad artist, a mediocre producer - but became a shitty politician / prezik.
It would be better if he remained in the memory of not a bad actor, and so all the good things about him go down the drain.

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Zelensky swung at Turchinov and Poroshenko and others?

[Ulrich]

And in fact, having discarded emotions, is there anything to object? Zelensky didn’t say ANYTHING. In any country, the loss of such a territory without some kind of opposition would be criminal and questions would be to the army, officials, etc. Another thing is whether they could do something in general in that situation.

[Kerensky]

And in fact, having discarded emotions, is there anything to object?

whether they could do something in general in that situation.

As a child, in the Crimea, in Perevalnoye, I saw tanks to the horizon. I am not calling for a massacre - could they have started them?

[Ulrich]

In theory, anything is possible :) In reality, I personally don't know if they could, but that was not what my comment was about.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Ulrih

And in fact, having discarded emotions, is there anything to object? Zelensky didn’t say ANYTHING. In any country, the loss of such a territory without some kind of opposition would be criminal and questions would be to the army, officials, etc. Another thing is whether they could do something in general in that situation.

Don't write nonsense. It is as if Putin began to forcefully annex the former republics of the USSR to Russia, since the collapse of the USSR was absolutely lawless. And I would start to judge Gorbachev, the former ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense, as well as the Prosecutor General of the USSR.

[Ulrich]

Yes, the analogy is straight 1 in 1. You can just as well say that basketball and football are one and the same game because both are played with a ball.
By the way, are you a lawyer to argue that the collapse of the USSR was absolutely illegal?

[kit88]

Quote: Ulrih

And in fact, having discarded emotions, is there anything to object? Zelensky didn’t say ANYTHING. In any country, the loss of such a territory without some kind of opposition would be criminal and questions would be to the army, officials, etc. Another thing is whether they could do something in general in that situation.

Laughter in the audience because the words of the comedian will not be followed by any deeds. The most he will decide on is to initiate proceedings against those who quit the Ukrainian army and who entered the service in the RF Armed Forces. Or will he dare to arrest Turchinov, Yaytsenyuk ...? They also made the decision to surrender.
His gut is thin, and that's why the people are having fun here.
And questions to the army should be the last. Was there an order? No. All bye.

[nnm]

Object to what? Consider another similar verbal exercise a fact? Dismiss me ... how many times has he already promised to punish those responsible, incl. and for the Crimea? Far more than once .... And how, at least someone went on trial for a year and a half of promises? No, nobody. So why object then? Empty campaign promises? They're not even worth it.

[Ulrich]

Well, as if the fact that "can not punish" does not mean that he said nonsense, no?

[nnm]

If he was just a comedian - you are right, it would not be nonsense. But he is the PRESIDENT, the head of the executive branch of power, the investigating authorities are in his subordination, I am glad - in his subordination, and therefore, in relation to him now on this issue there is no such term as CANNOT. And if the owners forbade him to do this and he understands this, then by giving such promises he simply LIES, having no intentions to fulfill them. So what kind of president is he then?

[Ulrich]

Well, you yourself noted in the first commentary "election promises";) Besides, you might think that politicians are right everywhere and always tell the truth and only the truth.

[nnm]

There are two nuances. 1. Politicians may be mistaken in promising something, but then, having faced in practice, realizing that they cannot fulfill this due to objective reasons. This is one thing. Then they should stand up and say - I promised, but did not fulfill for such reasons ... 2. But he is the PRESIDENT and the solution to the question he voiced is within his competence and capabilities. And when, knowing that he can, but will not do, he broadcasts, then what he said becomes nonsense

[Guards turn]

Full-length film "Servant of the People" and 2nd season. Plot (film and 2nd season). The country's economy is deteriorating, the people are no longer trusting Goloborodko. In the end, the oligarchs who secretly run the country force him to resign voluntarily. But, having considered everything, Vasily decides to participate in the elections again. Now he has to launch an election campaign and overtake other contenders.

[rocket757]

Psisa chatterbox .... is not distinguished by either intelligence or ingenuity.

[askort154]

According to Zelensky, expressed to the deputies, all those persons who "surrendered Crimea without a fight must be held accountable."

And those who organized the civil war, who organized the burning of people alive in Odessa - don’t! They can strangle because they sit next to each other.

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

I think Zelensky was incorrectly named in the article. Needed - Clown President Zelya! That's more accurate.

Supreme Clown Commander! In

[Alien From]

Here he turned it down ... and in truth a comedian

[Per se.]

Is it Zelensky? There was a "cunning plan", if anyone has forgotten.

Country Limonia country without worries
An underground passage leads to the country of Limonia
Find it yourself, I won’t teach you
Difficult road and deception everywhere
But in order not to go astray I have a plan
But I won’t let you dare not blame me

[Vladimir61]

"Who surrendered Crimea without a fight" must be held accountable

Pronounced into an empty barrel to hear its own echo. An idiot needs to dig deeper to increase his own importance. For example, open a criminal case against the participants of the "Pereyaslavskaya Rada".

[Sancho_SP]

Modern Ukraine shows what an amphora mass we are citizens. Not Ukrainian citizens, but all types of European countries. They swallow taxes, fines, tariffs, they swallowed muzzles, and many more are asking.

[Incvizitor]

Crimea fell off after 14 years, or rather a fascist coup, that's where you need to look for roots.

[Bomb]

They will do it over time, there are those interested in help. First of all, the United States.

[ZEMCH]

Zelensky said that “those who surrendered Crimea without a fight” should be held accountable

Responsibility on Ucoain is an oxymoron. In the full sense of the word

[zenion]

Where, in which direction should they be held accountable? Maybe he will lead the column with a drum for the beat and a pioneer horn? The child does not understand this - they can kill, or slap belts on the ass, which also hurts.

[Avior]

The little casket just opened - elections in a week.
And you won't tell that

[svoit]

Quote: Tatiana

Get the government and the commander-in-chief consent from their people to start a war

You complicate everything, getting permission from the CIA is enough.

[Jacket in stock]

so that no one else has the idea that it is possible to encroach on our sovereignty, our territorial integrity, or to take part of the territory from Ukraine without firing a single shot. It will not happen.

Ze said after returning from London, where he signed an agreement on a military base, and immediately after calling his minister on the carpet at the American embassy.
Yeah, independence and sovereignty. We thought so.

[APASUS]

Should Ukraine also bear responsibility? (in other words, we have the same)
Zeliboba started something wrong, but how easy it is to complete the case on Maidan, Odessa, Mariupol, MN-17? The punishment is selective .................

[Radius]

Oh, and Zelensky's pants! Wide! You can walk like that!

[Flavius]

Bloodthirsty clown! It is immediately clear that neither Russian nor Ukrainian. With "a fight it was necessary to surrender" ... Shibanuty, there people still live in peace with each other, although you do not want this so much, because the war brought such a Mr. to the surface.

[forester1971]

We do this so that no one else has the idea that it is possible to encroach on our sovereignty, our territorial integrity or to take part of the territory from Ukraine. without a single shot.

Based on this statement by Zelensky, it will be possible to take part of the territory from Ukraine by making only one single shot.

[Split]

Even at the referendum, Crimean residents voted whether to surrender or not, and unanimously said, we surrender!

[Nitarius]

)) let him make a film .. how he returned the Crimea, and they play it on TV))) to calm the soul))

[IV Stalin]

Poroshenko and Zelensky, who handed over and sold Ukraine to the Americans, must answer before the law on betraying the country's interests

[Prisoner]

What a yap! And who will you punish, and who will let you?