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How does it bite? Russian fishing is under the control of the president

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Who among those who like to fish is not familiar with the keen interest in their catch, tackle, biting and other things shown by individual citizens? But in the case that we will talk about, questions of a very similar kind were asked not for the sake of curiosity and not for idle passers-by, but by Russian President Vladimir Putin. And, one might say, the main fisherman of the country, the head of the Federal Agency for Fisheries Ilya Shestakov, had to answer them.


It is clear that the head of state (although everyone knows that Vladimir Vladimirovich is an avid fisherman) was not interested in bait, lures, but in things much more serious and large-scale. It was about the general state of affairs in the domestic fishing industry and its prospects. It is not for nothing that our country has been rich in this industry from time immemorial, being one of the world's leading producers and exporters of "live silver". How are things with him today?

According to Mr. Shestakov, in the industry he leads, he managed to achieve what is an undoubted success in today's difficult situation - to prevent a collapse in the production and processing of sea and river resources. The catch level is not inferior to last year and is equal to about 5 million tons. True, not all types of fish are equally successful: there is, alas, an obvious shortage of salmon. But there will be plenty of sardines with pollock.

However, these are all transient matters, turnover, so to speak. Most of all, the president was interested in how the domestic fishery is developing on a global scale. Several years ago, the Russian authorities and Vladimir Vladimirovich personally proposed a number of measures aimed at making a real breakthrough in the industry. First of all, of course, we are talking about the introduction of a new system of distribution of quotas for commercial fishing, the so-called investment. Its essence was to grant priority for production to those companies that will undertake the obligation to build new fishing vessels and fish processing plants.

Without this, nowhere. You can, of course, in the old fashioned way catch a fish, big and small, on the dozen of the prescribed terms, the pelvis, until they fall apart (well, if not in the middle of the sea). But with such approaches, Russian fisheries have a direct road not to the future, but to the bottom. However, in reality, its prospects are not at all bleak. Ilya Shestakov claims that the investment principle works quite successfully.

Out of 107 fishing vessels, the construction of which has been announced today, fifty should be created just at the expense of investors. Plus 35 crab vessels financed according to the same scheme. The rest will be built thanks to state support - compensation by the Ministry of Trade for almost a third of the cost.

Almost half of the 25 onshore processing plants planned for launch have been built. As for the vessels themselves, 107 out of the 11 mentioned have been launched, and 4 units have already been handed over to customers and are ready to start fishing. As a matter of fact, in this way the strategic task of updating the fishing fleet Russia. Already now, according to the head of the federal agency, we can talk about its "rejuvenation" in the Far East by a quarter, and in the Northern Basin - by all 65%. Shestakov suggested to the President to continue using the investment quota mechanism and develop it further, especially in the Far East region.

Not without problems. For example, some shipyards (especially the Vyborg shipyard) allow themselves delays in the commissioning of ships up to two years. Judging by the keen interest that Vladimir Vladimirovich has shown up to this point, when he mentioned the inadmissibility of disrupting the schedules, someone will be "given acceleration." The head of state is also worried about the problem of delivering resources obtained by hard labor of fishermen from the same Far East to the European part of Russia. Crazy fish transported over such distances, what good, will turn into "gold" - on the shelves of our stores.

According to Ilya Shestakov, everything is more or less adjusted here: the industry works in close contact with Russian Railways, trains are delivered on time and in the right volume. True, at the same time, the agency is already looking at the Northern Sea Route as a way to diversify and reduce the cost of delivering its products from east to west. And, by the way, not only in this aspect: now in Antarctica, scientific research and exploration are carried out by his forces. However, as the head of the department reported to the president, the plans of several companies already include the construction of at least three vessels at Russian shipyards for fishing in this region. According to Shestakov, the implementation of this project alone will ensure production of up to 300 thousand tons of shrimp in a few years.

The agency is also working on another line related to its competence: protection and restoration of fish stocks in Russia. In cooperation with RusHydro and Inter RAO, it is making the most serious efforts to reproduce the domestic natural resources that were fairly squandered in their time. By the way, when the head of the agency touched upon the topic of restoring the population of the famous Baikal omul, which was almost on the verge of extinction due to the stupidity and greed of humans, Vladimir Putin vividly asked if the Hollywood hero Stephen, who became a citizen of our country in 2016, had participated in such an important matter as promised Segal? Having received an affirmative answer from Shestakov, the president asked to convey to the actor his personal gratitude.

Well, all that remains is to congratulate Ilya Shestakov and his colleagues with a notable catch and express the hope that the positive prospects outlined at the meeting with the head of state will continue to be successfully implemented.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 22 October 2020 07: 40
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    Well, all that remains is to congratulate Ilya Shestakov and his colleagues with a notable catch and express the hope that the positive prospects outlined at the meeting with the head of state will continue to be successfully implemented.
    I would very much like to rejoice with them, especially seeing the abundance of fish at a reasonable price in our stores, otherwise the price is rather "bite"
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 22 October 2020 07: 53
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      Quote: svp67
      otherwise the price is rather "biting"

      and what should it be if most of the fish surrender for cardon, ships are not registered with us but where
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 22 October 2020 08: 35
        +5
        Seriously, but we have 70 km from the town of Irikla, they don't seem to be driven to the west, and the price of fish is almost more expensive than meat? And these are the Ural steppes.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 22 October 2020 08: 51
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          I say that unas is in Kaliningrad
          Quote: Ros 56
          and the price of fish is almost more expensive than meat? And these are the Ural steppes.

          what fish? you do not know where the imported one comes from
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 22 October 2020 09: 16
            +7
            Our local carp, carp, crucian carp, pike perch, catfish, pike, even crayfish, and imported, like everywhere else, and red, and smoked and salted. But the last time capelin killed 380 rubles per kg. I just swore. And now they took fashion, like they bring different salmon and caviar from Kamchatka, the prices are the same as phone numbers.
            Py.Sy. The last time, back in the USSR, in Kaliningrad, in the Ocean region, I saw a rainbow trout sold, which you poke a finger, that one from the aquarium and they will catch you at 3,50 per kilo.
          2. Blacksmith 55
            Blacksmith 55 22 October 2020 09: 48
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            Unfortunately the price of fish is high everywhere.
            In Germany (and generally in Europe), meat can be bought for 4-5 euros per kg. It is impossible to find fish cheaper than 7-8 euros.
            Most likely, you can buy a cheap one right at the pier, directly from the ship.
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 22 October 2020 10: 10
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              Quote: Blacksmith 55
              Unfortunately the price of fish is high everywhere.

              That's all right. All critics rushed to discuss prices, but forgot about the pricing factor. There are no such technologies, and it will not be possible to create such conditions in the near foreseeable future to raise commercial fish in the same way as it is done at agricultural agricultural firms raising poultry, pigs, and cattle. The process of restoring the number of fish in the seas and oceans is natural. And fishing quotas are based on this factor.
              Savvy Norwegian "farmers" wanted to solve this problem by growing Norwegian salmon in the coastal waters of the fjords. The water in the coastal waters of Norway is clear, tidal currents contribute to the change of water in the fjords on a regular basis. Only the salmon contained in the tones still picks up diseases that affect the health of the fish and its quality.
              An attempt to use an antibiotic when feeding salmon, to prevent the development of the disease, led to the same effect as on poultry farms - the level of antibiotic content in products went off scale.
              The times of the USSR, when store shelves (and not everywhere) were full of seafood, have sunk into oblivion. And it should be borne in mind that food pricing policy in those days had nothing to do with cost recovery.
              PS Those interested can compare seafood prices in Japan.
              1. svp67
                svp67 22 October 2020 11: 19
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                Quote: stalkerwalker
                All critics rushed to discuss prices, but forgot about the pricing factor.

                Pricing can explain a lot, just explain how, given the global consumption rate of 22,4 kg of fish per person per year, Russia consumes 12,7 kg ...
                1. Interlocutor
                  Interlocutor 22 October 2020 11: 33
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                  Pricing can explain a lot, just explain how, given the global consumption rate of 22,4 kg of fish per person per year, Russia consumes 12,7 kg ...

                  Do not forget that the bulk of our population lives in the interior of the mainland. Sea fish is not the main dish of the country's inhabitants. This also affects the layout of the consumption rate.
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                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 22 October 2020 13: 32
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                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      there is also "statistics" with the average temperature in the hospital, and the comparison of minimum wages, and how bad everything is ...

                      I live in the sea region of the Kaliningrad region, there are many times less fish than I saw it on the shelves of Alma-Ata
                  2. Stas157
                    Stas157 22 October 2020 14: 25
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                    Quote: Interlocutor
                    Do not forget that we have the bulk of the population living in the interior of the mainland.

                    And others that live on the water? Do not forget that our country is washed by thirteen seas.

                    A riddle for you. Where are the seas most of all, and where fish is eaten least of all? Where is that fabulous place?
                    1. Interlocutor
                      Interlocutor 22 October 2020 15: 25
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                      And others that live on the water? Do not forget that our country is washed by thirteen seas.

                      Is it so difficult to realize that washing the seas and living for people are two different things?
                2. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 22 October 2020 11: 48
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                  Quote: svp67
                  Pricing can explain a lot, just explain how, given the global population consumption rate of 22,4 kg of fish per person per year, 12,7 kg are consumed in Russia

                  So, maybe not a single fish?
                  I am not familiar with the statistics on the consumption of fish products by country. Therefore, I doubt its veracity.
                  Visiting shopping centers in Europe - England and Spain, for example, I can say that the choice is not very great both there and there.
                  But based on its presence on store shelves in Russia, I can say that the people, for the most part, prefer meat. Or a chicken.
                  And if we compare the availability of fish products in stores in Murmansk and Arkhangelsk with stores in the central part of Russia, then there is a difference in the range.
                  This is Norway on a separate line. So the country, like Japan, is completely coastal.
                  And even if Russia is "statistically" in the middle, is that bad?
                  Or again "Let's catch up with America in milk and meat production"?
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 22 October 2020 13: 41
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                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    availability of fish products in shops in Murmansk and Arkhangelsk with shops in the central part of Russia

                    I live in the Kaliningrad region of fish less than in Alma-Ata
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker 22 October 2020 21: 55
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                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      availability of fish products in shops in Murmansk and Arkhangelsk with shops in the central part of Russia

                      I live in the Kaliningrad region of fish less than in Alma-Ata

                      People...
                      When will you get rid of the "spa traveler syndrome"?
                      I explain ...
                      In Morooco or Tunisia, the selection of freshly caught seafood is high, on par with Portugal and Spain. And the prices for Moroccans and Tunisians are very low. Let's compare counters and prices with Morocco?
                      Let's dig deeper ...
                      In India, Goa, as in Thailand and Cambodia, seafood is also in vogue, and more than meat. So again, let's compare Russia with Thailand and India?
                      These are the enthusiastic holidaymakers who came to Thailand and bought up apartments, relying on the climate, for shrimp and lobster "every single day."
                      And now the real estate market in Thailand is replete with ads for the sale of apartments by the same "holidaymakers".
                      It turns out that shrimp are not uniform, even on the beaches of the South China Sea.
                      It is useless to compare the level of fish production in the USSR today. Require the same positions. Since the fishing industry, as well as the merchant fleet, were handed over to the "heads of joint-stock companies" formed instead of the previous shipping companies and fishing enterprises.
                      PS
                      And how much “joy” was expressed here, at VO, when the valiant “hero-captain” of the trawler “Electron”, who violated the agreement with the Norwegian side on the size of the fish we catch off the coast of Spitsbergen, brought two hostages in the form of Norwegian inspectors to Murmansk?
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2020 17: 13
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                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        People...
                        When will you get rid of the "spa traveler syndrome"?

                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        It is useless to compare the level of fish production in the USSR today. Require the same positions. Since the fishing industry, as well as the merchant fleet, were handed over to the "heads of joint-stock companies" formed instead of the previous shipping companies and fishing enterprises.

                        why not compare and what has the resorter's syndrome? !!!!
                      2. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 23 October 2020 17: 41
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                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

                        why not compare and what has the resorter's syndrome? !!!!

                        You don’t want to notice that the country is different!
                        Prices are not set by the Ministry of Labor and Wages at all. As well as the prices are not set by the relevant ministry in the form of a tariff scale approved by the Ministry of Finance! Hence the salaries.
                        Hence the "resort-traveler syndrome" - look how good it is here! Better than ours!
                        Product markups include shipping and handling costs in warehouses, including merchant markups. That was not even a trace under Soviet rule.
                      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2020 21: 15
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                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        Product markups include shipping and handling costs in warehouses, including merchant markups. That was not even a trace under Soviet rule.

                        do not write nonsense, in the USSR everyone thought and considered it very well, another question is that the profitability was laid at 5-15% and not 500 as now
                      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2020 21: 16
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                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        The mark-up on products includes the cost ...


                        forgive me please YOU personally, when did the thread give the calculation of the cost of this or that product?
                      5. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 23 October 2020 21: 28
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                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        do not write nonsense

                        Vladimir ...
                        I never thought you were narrow-minded. Well, why are you running into a compliment?
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        The USSR was considered by everyone and was considered very well

                        There is no need to tell me about the planned economy, about social competitions, and subbotniks, at which products were produced "using saved raw materials."
                        As, however, about bonuses "for overfulfillment of the plan" (!), About local coefficients, about the northern allowance.
                        A vivid example is the USSR Ministry of Marine Fleet's gamble, in the form of an attempt to escort ship caravans along the then SevMorPuti to one of the most severe summer navigations in 1986. When, with the support of a pair of nuclear icebreakers, not counting diesel ones, ships were destroyed in the name of a report for the next congress of the CPSU. As in April of the same 1986, the same wise guy decided to experiment on checking the operation of the 4th unit of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
                        That's what the USSR thought. And the slogan "Take care of technology, we will send you people!" takes its origins in those memorable times.
                      6. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 24 October 2020 13: 05
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                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        About the planned economy

                        a planned economy is no worse than a speculative one, the main problem of which is computing power and algorithms
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        As in April of the same 1986, the same wise guy decided to experiment on checking the operation of the 4th unit of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.

                        what does this have to do with pricing and so on, sorry, but tsunami resistance was not included in the fakusima NPP project, really great
                        Quote: stalkerwalker
                        That's what the USSR thought. And the slogan "Take care of technology, we will send you people!" takes its origins in those memorable times.

                        just let's not scatter agitation
                      7. stalkerwalker
                        stalkerwalker 24 October 2020 15: 59
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                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        just let's not scatter agitation

                        Let's.
                        This is mutual.
                      8. your1970
                        your1970 27 October 2020 11: 54
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                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        a planned economy is no worse than a speculative one, the main problem of which is computing power and algorithms
                        - what computing power was lacking in 1982 - when a batch of "Buran" snowmobiles was brought to the store in Kushka (!!!!) (not even in the desert, but beyond the desert) ?? !!
                        In a place where snow happens 20 days a year and there is a maximum of a day ???
                        And to the north, a couple of thousand km - people have been waiting for them for years ????
                        What algorithm could cope with the fact that I sent sweets and washing powder before demobilization in 1990 from there by parcels to Moscow and Saratov ??

                        ZY I saw those snowmobiles in 1989, I wouldn't be surprised if they were there in the 90s ..
                      9. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 October 2020 20: 38
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                        Quote: your1970
                        what computing power was lacking in 1982 - when in Kushka

                        let's not go to extremes always and I'm not sure that this was not a leap of the local Baskarma
                      10. your1970
                        your1970 27 October 2020 21: 04
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                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Quote: your1970
                        what computing power was lacking in 1982 - when in Kushka

                        let's not go to extremes always and I'm not sure that this was not a leap of the local Baskarma
                        - what is it local buy could surpass the USSR State Planning Committee ??
                        And this, alas, is not extremes .. Nearby in Kazakhstan in the 70s there were extremely scarce books in stores - Dumas, Pikul, the Friendship of Peoples series. Trabl in that they were published in ... Estonian !!! if in Estonia, there were books in Kazakh ...
                        I drove the oil of our creamery home from Moscow - it was very tasty ... 1200 km one way ...
                        and such examples of "extremes" - a carriage ...
                        Stalin was alive, they were building the Dead Road, he died - they threw it right there, even the rolling stock was thrown there. So was it expedient or not?
                        Who the goat is - the one who justified its need or the one who justified its uselessness.
                        And if this is the same person, then how?
                      11. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 October 2020 23: 17
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                        Quote: your1970
                        this is what a local buy could surpass the USSR State Planning Committee ??

                        if you lived then, you know perfectly well that the state plan for deliveries in this case is not at all sideways
                        Quote: your1970
                        I drove the oil of our creamery home from Moscow - it was very tasty ... 1200 km one way ...

                        what is this for?
                      12. your1970
                        your1970 28 October 2020 13: 03
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                        The State Planning Commission carried out general planning of production and distribution. Without it, trading is nothing and nowhere would be lucky
                        Butter...
                        Everything is simpler here. Our small butter factory made very tasty butter, tastier than homemade, weighed out. Our factory sent all its products to Moscow and the German Democratic Republic (the packaging was in German). On the territory of the district - its products were presented exclusively to those stolen from it ...
                        Thus, if you wanted butter, you went either to a thief from a factory or to a private owner with a cow. For the first one needs a connection, the second one tore three skins ...
                        Nearest factory oil STATE the price was 300 km.
                        All my students I drove oil from Moscow, before that, from the end of the 70s, my aunt had been passing along with guides ...
                        And this is not an isolated case of wisdom
                        Planning under the USSR ....
                      13. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 28 October 2020 13: 27
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                        Quote: your1970
                        Without it, trading is nothing and nowhere would be lucky

                        Are you seriously?!
                      14. your1970
                        your1970 28 October 2020 14: 23
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                        "development, in accordance with the Program of the CPSU, directives of the Central Committee of the CPSU and decisions of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, state national economic plans that ensure proportional development of the national economy of the USSR, continuous growth and increase in the efficiency of social production in order to create the material and technical basis of communism, to steadily improve the living standards of the people and strengthening the country's defense. "- our creamery somewhere in these lines
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 22 October 2020 13: 31
    +4
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    The times of the USSR, when store shelves (and not everywhere) were full of seafood, have sunk into oblivion. And it should be borne in mind that food pricing policy in those days had nothing to do with cost recovery.

    firstly, as it had, another question is that the profit did not add up to hundreds of percent, and secondly, profit for the state is not only money directly received from the sale of a specific product
    well, and thirdly, we processed it ourselves
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 22 October 2020 21: 40
      -2
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      first of all, how it had, another question is that the profit did not add up to hundreds of percent

      The answer is lengthy. But the essence is still not clear ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 October 2020 17: 15
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        Quote: stalkerwalker
        The answer is lengthy. But the essence is still not clear ...

        Well, it’s easier to explain everything by the syndrome of a holiday traveler
        I explain for those in the tank
        the state as a whole looks not only at the figure in a specific statement, but also at many other factors - social tension, the need to develop hard-to-reach places, etc.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 23 October 2020 17: 31
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          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          the state as a whole looks not only at the figure in a specific statement, but also at many other factors - social tension, the need to develop hard-to-reach places, etc.

          Just in the spirit of today's contradictions.
          Which, in principle, confirms my words, regardless of my location.
  • Hypertension
    Hypertension 22 October 2020 11: 21
    +5
    Quote: Blacksmith 55
    Unfortunately the price of fish is high everywhere.
    In Germany (and generally in Europe), meat can be bought for 4-5 euros per kg. It is impossible to find fish cheaper than 7-8 euros.

    However, the minimum wage in Germany is an order of magnitude higher than in Russia. Let me remind you: in the Russian Federation = 12130 rubles; in Germany ~ 133000 rubles. Wages should always be included with prices, and vice versa. Only then can the difference be appreciated.
    1. Blacksmith 55
      Blacksmith 55 22 October 2020 12: 03
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      I am not paid, I wanted to show that fish is not cheaper, but at least 2 times more expensive than meat.
      In addition, there are different meats and different fish, and the price of meat reaches sky-high heights. Fillet of beef from Argentina costs up to 50 € per kg. It is eaten by a few, most buy it cheap. It's the same story with fish.
      1. Hypertension
        Hypertension 22 October 2020 14: 15
        +3
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        In addition, there are different meats and different fish, and the price of meat reaches sky-high heights.

        You wrote that the fish in Germany from 7-8 euros. I wrote an RFP from RUB 133000 And so, of course, you can buy for 50 €, you can't forbid living beautifully.
        1. Blacksmith 55
          Blacksmith 55 22 October 2020 15: 02
          -2
          You are right, the salary is higher.
          But how simple it is with you, a 3-room apartment (depending on the area and quality) costs 500-700 € per month.
          What is the course, that is almost 100 rubles for 1 €.
          So just count, there is no half of the salary.
          I no longer want to write about the cost of gasoline and a car.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 22 October 2020 16: 07
            +2
            Quote: smith 55
            What is the course, that is almost 100 rubles for 1 €.

            90 p.
            700 € = 63. 000-133000 = 63000
            12130-5000 7130 =
            There is still an order of magnitude more money left.
            Quote: smith 55
            I no longer want to write about the cost of gasoline and a car.

            And I will write perhaps ...
            For example gasoline (AI-95) In Germany 1.5 € = 135 rubles. and in Russia - 47 rubles.
            All the same, an order of magnitude more remains. Well, the prices are only several times higher. Gasoline won ~ 3 times.
            And do not forget - the number of reservoirs with fish in Russia itself and around it is many times more than in Germany.
            1. Blacksmith 55
              Blacksmith 55 22 October 2020 19: 26
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              At the moment the price is 95, 1.20. But she jumps every day, more in the morning, up to 1.35, in the evening it drops to 1.20.
              Depends on the oil price.
            2. Hypertension
              Hypertension 22 October 2020 21: 29
              +2
              Quote: Blacksmith 55
              At the moment the price is 95, 1.20.

              Especially.
              Quote: Blacksmith 55
              Depends on the oil price.

              And we do not depend on oil prices! It would seem - a reason for pride ... But there is a nuance ...
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 22 October 2020 13: 28
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    Quote: Blacksmith 55
    Most likely, you can buy a cheap one right at the pier, directly from the ship.

    are you sure that you will find this ship ?!
    friends have a son who goes to sea, they never go to Russia in 5 months and unload in Europe
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 22 October 2020 11: 26
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    Yesterday in an ordinary supermarket I bought a pink salmon with my head at 230 r / kg, it is clear that fresh, red eyes, no yellowness. Fried with onions, fatty and delicious. Flounder for some reason is more expensive than 250 rubles. well, the dog is with her ...
  • AK1972
    AK1972 22 October 2020 09: 14
    +5
    Quote: Ros 56
    Seriously, but we have 70 km from the town of Irikla, they don't seem to be driven to the west, and the price of fish is almost more expensive than meat? And these are the Ural steppes.

    Seriously? This is lucky for you, in our Bryansk region fish is exactly 2 times more expensive than meat.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 22 October 2020 09: 25
      +6
      Do they feed her, drink her, milk her? greed obscures the eye.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 October 2020 10: 45
    +2
    The line where it does not matter now. Especially under the keel quota program. The whole problem of interaction between our coast and fishermen. For 30 years the coast has been behaving like a pirate, but nothing in return. Fishermen would gladly handed over fish to Murmansk, but only in The Kola Bay has pushed its way into the fishermen and begins with gimora. Money was brought to pay the inspection officials. But it seemed to start moving off the ground, with a creak, but the ice was broken. Not all fishermen succeed. Who will expel these officials. Approximately fishermen sell cod $ 2500 a ton (in Murmansk) and see what kind of markup until it reaches the buyer
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 22 October 2020 07: 55
    0
    The problem of industrial fishing, of course, excites me like everyone else, but I'm more worried about the problems of Amateur Fishing! The fact that you need to go fishing with a ruler, throw out the caught fish - which still will not survive (by the way you can take no less than the established size) and, having caught more than five kg of fish, explain that you have been fishing for more than one day ... somehow closer are perceived. I fish with spinning and feeders.
    There are many questions, unfortunately, they are only being added.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 22 October 2020 08: 27
      +5
      Quote: Hunter 2
      There are many questions, unfortunately they are only being added

      I also have a bunch of questions - why is the Rybnadzor so intensely watching the amateurs, and closing its eyes to the Sabbath of the state fish farms? They are the ones who carry out uncontrolled fishing. Compliance with catch quotas is not respected, they choose everything cleanly.
      It is necessary to completely ban industrial fishing on the Volga, for five years.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 22 October 2020 08: 40
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        Quote: Ingvar 72
        It is necessary to completely ban industrial fishing on the Volga, for five years.

        In Kama there are fewer fish every year, but I think this is not the fault of the fish farms, although they crap with nets and catch a lot .. but still, the most harm is caused by the plums of all kinds of rubbish and the discharge of water from dams in the spring .. when the game dries up in handfuls trees bleeding heart ..
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 October 2020 08: 56
          +7
          Quote: Svarog
          plums of any rubbish cause harm

          One does not interfere. In the mother's village, the entire Usa (tributary of the Volga) is blocked off with nets. It is there that pike perch, path, bream come to spawn. The current is weak, the expanse for spawning. And here is a fish farm with a fine mesh on the nets.
          And on the drain, yes, last year the Volga was well trawled, in the area of ​​the village Yagodnoye the entire coast was in dead fish. The commission said the blue-green algae were to blame. laughing Brad, last year the Volga almost did not "bloom", in contrast to previous years.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 22 October 2020 09: 00
            +5
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Brad, last year the Volga almost did not "bloom", in contrast to previous years.

            Yes, the fishing supervision and all kinds of commissions are always on the side of those who pay them money .. That is why everything is so with us .. Well, fishing in spawning is generally beyond reasonable .. Vaughn Potanin shit and now he does not pay a fine either wants to sue .. and if they paid all the fines, then the situation would be different .. In general, there is corruption and lawlessness.
        2. unaha
          unaha 22 October 2020 08: 59
          +6
          "There are fewer fish in the Kama every year" - even in small rivers, it is not that less, but simply almost no longer. You watch videos on YouTube, how crowds call in on the taiga rivers and rake everything clean. The dramatically increased availability is bad for the biosphere (
        3. Interlocutor
          Interlocutor 22 October 2020 11: 35
          0

          In Kama there are fewer fish every year, but I think this is not the fault of the fish farms, although they crap with nets and catch a lot .. but still, the most harm is caused by the plums of all kinds of rubbish and the discharge of water from dams in the spring .. when the game dries up in handfuls trees bleeding heart ..


          Well, you have, as always, APOCALYPSE. We're used to it.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 22 October 2020 11: 39
            +4
            Quote: Interlocutor


            Well, you have, as always, APOCALYPSE. We're used to it.

            And you have, as always, a "breakthrough" .. we are used to the same .. Only figures and facts are stubborn thing .. but you are not interested in that while your own soft place is full and warm .. and the rest does not bother ..
            1. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 22 October 2020 11: 40
              0
              And you have, as always, a "breakthrough" .. we are used to the same .. Only figures and facts are stubborn thing .. but you are not interested in that while your own soft place is full and warm .. and the rest does not bother ..


              Try to be happy for your country at least once a day. And do not mix shit in honey
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 22 October 2020 16: 19
                +6
                Quote: Interlocutor
                Try to be happy for your country at least once a day. And do not mix shit in honey

                You need to be not quite adequate to rejoice that the country is dying out, the people have been impoverished for 7 years in a row, there is no industry, medicine ... etc .. Either a traitor or a Kremlin troll can rejoice at this ... which is actually equivalent. ...
                1. Interlocutor
                  Interlocutor 22 October 2020 16: 22
                  0
                  that the country is dying out, the people have been poor for 7 years in a row

                  So I’m talking. You have an apocalypse from morning to evening. Around my friends, no one is destitute or dying out. They do not live well, but no one complains. And every day you have the end of the world.
      2. polar fox
        polar fox 22 October 2020 08: 56
        0
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        I also have a bunch of questions - why is the Rybnadzor so intensely watching the amateurs, and closing its eyes to the Sabbath of the state fish farms? They are the ones who carry out uncontrolled fishing. Compliance with catch quotas is not respected, they choose everything cleanly.

        slightly disagree ... check them once a week. taksa-50 tyrov. checking several. here and count, HOW IT IS ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 October 2020 09: 36
          +3
          Quote: polar fox
          dachshund-50 tyrov.

          Hello Zema! If this can be called control, then you are absolutely right! laughing
          I myself periodically observe how the UAZ of the head of the Syzran OBEP goes down to the fishing camp. They say a friend. bully
  • GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 22 October 2020 07: 56
    +1
    I would very much like to rejoice with them, especially seeing the abundance of fish at a reasonable price in our stores, otherwise the price is rather "biting" [/ quote]
    Fish will always have a wild price tag - Kamchatka and Sakhalin will be filled with fish, canned food will be screwed up and salted, and the export is only from Vladivostok, there are refrigerators ...
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 22 October 2020 09: 02
    +6
    Quote: svp67
    I would very much like to be happy with them

    "But there will be plenty of sardines with pollock.
    "
    In the 70s, I was retraining with a guy from the Far East. He first came to central Russia. He was shocked when in a beer bar he saw the backs of a pollock: "We only feed dogs with pollock." wink
    Gone are the days when Thursday was a fish day from which you can't get away.
  • Suvorov
    Suvorov 25 October 2020 02: 57
    +1
    Unfortunately, not a word has been said about inland industrial fishing. And it is in a deep "out", although the potential is huge (especially in the regions of the North and Siberia, the Far East). Unfortunately, the process of obtaining quotas and permits is unnecessarily "bureaucratic". And on this everyone loses: the subjects of the trade themselves, fishermen in the form of lost income and the state of taxes and fees. Digitalization would have come to this industry faster (so that it is not necessary to travel far away from the administrative center of a constituent entity of the Federation in order to obtain a mining permit and issue quotas, and it is generally impossible to promptly amend the current permit due to changes in fishing conditions). In addition, there is no competent state policy in the field of fish resources management, as it was in Soviet times. I caught this time and remember well how science, production workers, fish protection and local party bodies worked harmoniously as one team and gave good indicators of the implementation of the "national plan", wintering grounds, spawning of valuable fish species were strictly protected. Now there is no trace of this coherence, consistency. Everyone has different goals. Because of this, there are practically no valuable fish species left, despite the intensified fight against poaching with the involvement of the police and "mask shows", as well as huge funds spent by the state on artificial reproduction. But this is not enough, you just need to catch more "low-value species of fish", which are competitors in nutrition and occupy the spawning grounds of valuable species, destroy the laid eggs. But catching "low-value breeds" is just not given because of bureaucratic "obstacles". Why this is being done is not clear, apparently it is more convenient for officials to work this way. You can always "hook" a production worker or a fisherman practically "out of the blue" and punish, or even "ask" for a bribe, at least not with money, but with the same biological resources or some kind of "services." For an official, it is beneficial and convenient, and the state, business and fishermen are losing a lot due to unrealized opportunities and “far-fetched restrictions.” It’s time, perhaps, to return to the Soviet experience, adapting it, naturally, to modern conditions.
  • krops777
    krops777 22 October 2020 07: 41
    13
    By the way, when the head of the agency touched upon the topic of restoring the population of the famous Baikal omul, which, due to the stupidity and greed of humans, almost ended up on the brink of extinction


    Yes, of course, who else is to blame, stupid little people that live along Baikal, but the fact that these people are on the brink of extinction does not seem to bother anyone.
    1. nnm
      nnm 22 October 2020 08: 24
      +5
      What are you writing about !!!! Omul is already saved !!!

      https://ria.ru/20201019/sigal-1580494193.html
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 22 October 2020 08: 39
        +1
        Why this year the tsar didn’t check out in nature - there was no fish. And next year he will go to catch omul.
        1. nnm
          nnm 22 October 2020 08: 41
          +5
          It seems that in his case the fish will always be:
          1. nnm
            nnm 22 October 2020 08: 43
            0
            Something like this.......
  • Far B
    Far B 22 October 2020 07: 47
    +9
    Russian fishing is under the control of the president
    Under the control of the president? Well, that’s all - it’s giving up, khan to Russian fishing (now finally). But we will treat this with understanding, yes. After all, rocking the boat and loosening the braces are not our methods!
    1. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 22 October 2020 11: 37
      -2
      Under the control of the president? Well, that’s all - it’s giving up, khan to Russian fishing (now finally). But we will treat this with understanding, yes. After all, rocking the boat and loosening the braces are not our methods!

      So you say - everything is gone again? Oh well
  • marchcat
    marchcat 22 October 2020 07: 59
    +9
    It is not for nothing that our country from time immemorial has been rich in this craft
    Previously, the country was getting richer, but now a handful of people "close to" the authorities are getting richer and all this is presented as a success.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 22 October 2020 08: 00
    +6
    Once upon a time, fish canning factories on the Azov coast produced canned food from local products, both caught in the sea, and from the products of fish farms. Now, alas ... unless the goby and sprat in tomato sauce. I will not talk about canned food from valuable species of fish pike perch, sturgeon , flounder., trout, but silver carp, carp, carp, catfish, pike were produced, there were so many pikes in the reservoirs that pike caviar, even grass carp were produced ... Now, there is fish, but Volga carp is brought in, there is carp, catfish , but the price bites ... So-called fish shops have been opened, but the products are mostly Far Eastern and the price is "Far Eastern" ..
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 October 2020 09: 51
      0
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Once, fish canning factories on the Azov coast produced canned food from local products, both caught in the sea, and from the products of fish farms. Now, alas.

      Yes, they worked on their Azov fish, and there is almost no plant already. Azov, Yeisk, Temryuk “killed”.
      Just like one of the largest in the USSR, founded in 1930, the Astrakhan fish processing plant, which was the very first in the Astrakhan region to be vaccinated in 1992, it was bought by Kuliev Mehmandar Ogly with an authorized capital of only 10 rubles !!! Here's how to call it idiocy or sabotage? A couple of years later, the "kyrdyk" plant. The same is true for the largest fish factory in the USSR "Pishchevik" in Leningrad, which began work in 000. It is interesting that all these factories are located on the shores of inland water bodies of Russia, and their raw materials are Russian, especially in the most productive body of water in the world - the Sea of ​​Azov. And that the fish disappeared from Azov, Caspian, Baltic or escaped to Mars? Of course not, but a Russian capitalist sells it over the hill, and then another capitalist buys it from them and sells it to you. "Nothing personal, just business."
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 22 October 2020 10: 16
        +1
        Primorsko-Akhtarsky is still forgotten, someone is dead, someone is working on imported products, and even then not in full force.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 22 October 2020 11: 38
          +2
          Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
          Primorsko-Akhtarsky is still forgotten, someone is dead, someone is working on imported products

          This plant is still alive, but it was necessary to mention, it is one of the largest pre-war. From it came the former Minister of the Fishing Industry Ishkov, one might say the forge of personnel (was).
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 22 October 2020 12: 03
            +1
            I just did not see Primorsko-Akhtarsk products on sale.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 22 October 2020 12: 14
              0
              Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
              I just did not see Primorsko-Akhtarsk products on sale.

              About five years ago in St. Petersburg I came across "Gobies in Tomato Sauce" from Prmorsko-Akhtarsky, immediately took 30 cans.
              1. Daniil Konovalenko
                Daniil Konovalenko 22 October 2020 12: 16
                +2
                Aaaaaa ... gobies ... I just don't pay attention ... The goby is not Azov, Black Sea ... The Azov ban on catching ..
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 22 October 2020 12: 04
            -1
            There are also leaders of capitalist fishing. The Norebo company also works in the Far East. It was included in the top 200 private enterprises. The sale of the malts did not reach $ 1 billion. 10 new vessels under the keel quota program. 80 crew members plus a replacement crew for a total of 1600 jobs. Plus to get away from intermediaries, they are building a berth with their own refrigerator and stevedoring service in Murmansk. I hope you, as a captain who defended on the captain's bridge for more than a decade, will support me that the work of a sailor should be well paid! hi
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 22 October 2020 12: 20
              +1
              Quote: tralflot1832
              I hope you, as a captain who defended on the captain's bridge for more than a decade, will support me that the work of a sailor should be well paid!

              This is one of the hardest specialties, a seaman of the fishing fleet. For those who do not understand, I will say, 9-10 months in seas without a shore, 7 days for 12-14 hours of work, in any weather (there is nowhere to hide in the open sea). For such work, you need to pay with dignity, and not a penny, which may not be paid. In the Soviet Union, we had one of the highest wages, because the country paid us, not a capitalist-swallower.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 22 October 2020 12: 27
                +3
                I was paid by the capitalist a swallower, he never stopped money, a full social package. So the capitalist is not the capitalist, everything depends on the person. Now you won't get sick with sailors if they immediately go to serious offices and have to pay normally. This is especially true of comrades commanders. , the fleet is getting younger.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 22 October 2020 12: 34
                  0
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  This is especially true of comrade commanders, the fleet is getting younger.

                  They try not to offend the commanders. I met many of our fishermen in Holland, Norway, Ireland, Iceland and even France. The guys there receive a normal salary, and in general they pay normally under the flag, after the collapse I worked under the flag on the reefs, I do not take offense.
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 22 October 2020 19: 12
                    +1
                    The cap in the bath opened up in 6 months only officially 1,5 rubles in rubles, the rate is 1 to 30. So he has more than two shares. He earned money himself and gave others a good salary. They say they earn even more with a successful flight.
        2. sunzhenets
          sunzhenets 27 October 2020 18: 46
          0
          I live in Primorsko-Akhtarsk. The fish factory has been dead for 5 years. The fish factory died back in the 90s. 2 fish collective farms also died in the 320s. Frozen capelin on the market XNUMX rub.
          1. sunzhenets
            sunzhenets 27 October 2020 18: 50
            0
            From Shestakov, the head of the Federal Agency for Fishery is like a bullet from feces - he is a lawyer. But St. Petersburg and dad are a Duma deputy from the United Russia.
  • nnm
    nnm 22 October 2020 08: 00
    +5
    Well, how not to remember the "unprepared" question from a fishing specialist to Putin at a press conference already in 2017.
    And what was the excitement after that? And Putin almost invited this person to the State Council, and a program for reforming the industry must be developed, and everything must be urgently corrected ...
    ... 3 years have passed, and there was no time for buildup, and no!
    And how our fishermen went under the flags of the devil knows who, so they go, how they overloaded the catch on foreign trawlers and overloads it, how the fish was an expensive delicacy in Russia, and it remained, how they fed us with imports, and they feed us, how they shared quotas in corruption and share!

    By the way, from the history of the issue ... since 2007, at least, they promise to put things in order. But this time, of course, everything will be different, yeah ...:
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/800422
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 October 2020 08: 32
      +2
      Quote: nnm
      And as our fishermen went under the flags of the devil knows who, so they go, how they overloaded the catch onto foreign trawlers and overload it,

      Capitalism will not give an opportunity to develop an ocean-going fleet in Russia, this shelf has already been taken from the USSR and occupied by others, only the 3rd luggage shelf remains. It is only to develop fishing in their zones in the Far East and a little in the North. And it is also not profitable for the Russian capitalist to leave the fish in Russia, it is more profitable to sell it over the hill.
      And the conditions for managing the fishing industry in Russia are one of the most difficult. I will not describe, you will not understand, minus and declare a renegade. One simple example - There are more Russian fishermen in the port of Kirkinesse than in Murmansk and Arkhangelsk. Search for the answer to the "why" question.
      1. nnm
        nnm 22 October 2020 08: 37
        +6
        Quote: tihonmarine
        do not understand, minus and declare a renegade.

        You shouldn't think so. I can only add that we have the same situation in almost every industry.
        What is in space, what is in light industry (although I'm not sure that we still have it), what is in electronics, what is in medicine ... in general, it is useless to list and for a long time, we can say that it is developing somehow only production and initial processing of hydrocarbons.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 22 October 2020 08: 45
          +6
          Quote: nnm
          You shouldn't think so. I can only add that we have the same situation in almost every industry.

          I know, I don’t think. The fishing industry lives off of raw materials caught in the oceans (and a little in their zones). There is no fleet - no raw materials, buy it from the capitalists, you will lose your last pants, or the fish will become worthless. And the Russian capitalist is trying to push the caught fish abroad, firstly, the prices are not the same and he has run away from taxes. And it is much easier to work with abroad, in Russia officials will squeeze all the juice.
          1. nnm
            nnm 22 October 2020 08: 54
            +7
            I meant that in vain you think that they will "minus". But, practice shows that you were right)))) Although the problems are obvious. Apparently, not everyone is ready to simply admit them.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 22 October 2020 09: 04
              +2
              Quote: nnm
              Apparently, not everyone is ready to simply admit them.

              Everyone knows and understands everything, they just don't want to fight and solve this issue .. Someone from the environment oversees this topic and feeds on it, but, as you know, "we do not give up"
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 22 October 2020 09: 10
              +4
              Quote: nnm
              Although the problems are obvious. Apparently, not everyone is ready to simply admit them.

              When the problem is faintly visible, and it is not touched live, it is difficult to admit. And when you yourself worked in this problematic industry, it was in full view.
      2. gramatey
        gramatey 22 October 2020 09: 31
        +3
        It's like that. But even in their waters, a number of Rhussians are underutilized. For example, in the Barents Sea. yapradoks, that in Bely, with huge stocks of seaweed, it is cheaper to transport it from China. Even the crackling sound of the fleet is barely enough. This is despite the fact that the current ships are much more productive than the ships of the 1980s and require less crew.
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 22 October 2020 10: 22
      +1
      If you are not too lazy to google this man in Murmansk, he is still a privatizer. He has a dream to get to the catch without intermediaries. Personally, I am not familiar, I heard a lot from the fish-factory "girls". He left the fishermen and left Murmansk 2007 25 years by sea hi
    3. frog
      frog 22 October 2020 11: 13
      0
      And how many times have the authorities in general, and the nonesh, in particular, promised to stop, one might say, in the bud, the export of round timber? And sho? In this year, another promise.
      "While our competitors promise three times, we promise five times."
  • Naz
    Naz 22 October 2020 08: 01
    +3
    "everyone knows that Vladimir Vladimirovich is an avid fisherman" who is all this?
    "How are things with him today?" yes, not as it was, so it was.
    1. deniso
      deniso 22 October 2020 08: 07
      -12 qualifying.
      Well, what the hell are you writing, there was much more fish in stores before in Okay there were 2 counters and now all 6 are filled with fish.
      1. nnm
        nnm 22 October 2020 08: 11
        10
        Yes, you can fill up even 10 counters. The questions are different:
        1.whose production
        2.accessibility to the population
        Lamborghini salons are also littered with cars, but only 99,9% can only lick their lips on them.
        Or what, salmon has become available for pensioners as potatoes or chicken? And this is in Russia, where fish resources are simply immeasurable!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 22 October 2020 08: 54
          +4
          Quote: nnm
          Yes, you can fill up even 10 counters. The questions are different:
          1.whose production
          2.accessibility to the population

          You rightly noticed that everything is brought in "from there", and theirs are taken "there". Ask yourself where the "pangasius" comes from (I do not advise taking it). Even fish caught in Russian waters are bought in China.
          1. Daniil Konovalenko
            Daniil Konovalenko 22 October 2020 10: 24
            +5
            I remember shrimp butter !!!!!!! Which was produced by the Temryuk fish cannery, however, it was only possible to buy it there, but how much shrimp there was! Then in the Temryuk shop "Ocean", you could buy boiled shrimp and ice cream to cook .. I was there not long ago .. that was not there .. There is no shrimp, fishing is practically prohibited for it ... North is sold and oceanic ...
          2. deniso
            deniso 22 October 2020 10: 43
            -6
            Well, don't buy, why are you forced?
            Loser fucking ...
        2. deniso
          deniso 22 October 2020 10: 41
          -6
          Are you saying that 300 rubles for a flounder is expensive? Or a catfish for 259 rubles?
          For such clowns as you are a fish and for 100r it will be a little expensive, as I understand it?
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 October 2020 08: 22
    +6
    Well, it remains to congratulate Ilya Shestakov and his colleagues with a notable catch and express hope
    And how many of these deputies for fishing were, and all cheerfully reported and Shestakov was another search engine manager. And practically the entire Mimnrybkhoz of the USSR simply went under pressure, and the fleet went to India on "needles". Who will allow you to fish for free in the seas-oceans, and capitalism itself will not be able to create such a lump as the Ministry of Fisheries. Well, in order, fish processing enterprises are closed for almost everything, except for small and newly created "sharazheks", there is no one to build a fleet. In the USSR, the entire large-tonnage fishing fleet was built at 2 factories in Nikolaev, Klaipeda, shipyards of the GDR and Poland, a small number were built at the DVK (mostly "urine bots"). There was a huge reef fleet. We worked in the whole world ocean, in such holes that now no one dreamed of.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 22 October 2020 08: 37
    +5
    Everything is so rosy, and pollock is more expensive than pork on the counter. Although raising a pig is a more costly process.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 22 October 2020 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Everything is so rosy, and pollock is more expensive than pork on the counter. Although raising a pig is a more costly process.

      Okay, pollock, we have capelin, which used to be fed to cats, is now more expensive than pollock and pork.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 October 2020 10: 32
        +1
        You can say thank you to me too. Back in 1986, we destroyed it in the Barents Sea, for the sake of a plan, how she did not resist. Setaki we strangled her. Since then, she has never been able to recover. The first time fishing was allowed, and even then not much in 2006, but not a lot. And now every year, based on the results of science, they give permission to fish. In 2020 and in 2021 there will be no capelin from the Barents Sea. Hence the price. hi
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 October 2020 09: 32
      0
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Everything is so rosy, and pollock is more expensive than pork on the counter.

      That's right, first the pollock is sold to China, and then China sells it to you.
  • gramatey
    gramatey 22 October 2020 09: 13
    +6
    Barencevo sea. Thanks to nature, there is fish - stocks of cod and haddock are high. Capelin let down - there will be no fishing again in 2021. We catch and will catch mainly in our waters - Russian economy. zone. The catch, as before, will mainly go abroad. The invisible hand of the market, does it know :) The fleet is updated slowly, there is a problem with personnel. There is no scientific fleet today at all. The remaining ships are almost each half a century old. And the annual assessment of the total stocks with Norway (expeditions) is one of the criteria for dividing future catches. So far, we are dividing quotas with Norgs in half (well, almost), but there are fears that they will take a pose and demand a large share for themselves, rightly pointing out that they spend money on expeditions and work, and the Russians are phony.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 October 2020 09: 33
      +2
      Quote: gramatey
      There is no scientific fleet today at all.

      If I am not mistaken PINRO ceased to exist?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 October 2020 10: 25
        +1
        Pinro is alive, there are even two small cattle. Only that the crab died in the Barents Sea. Now they will go to study kelp in the White Sea. News Pinro their site is alive. hi
        1. gramatey
          gramatey 22 October 2020 10: 35
          +3
          This site is live. Laminaria and crabs are exclusively Russian stocks, we do not share them with norgs. Worse with cod, capelin, haddock, halibut, perches. We share these, these are joint stocks. They are estimated every year by one large expedition, in which 2-3 Norwegian ships participate (from our side) and only one of ours (from our side of the fence). The Norgs have much newer courts, they spend more time on their side. From year to year, the number of days at sea is decreasing in our country, funding is gradually decreasing. Then the data is merged together, but the weight of our information is much lower. This is a formal reason to "redistribute" the catch.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 22 October 2020 10: 49
            +3
            It is necessary to persuade whether the NIS will be built at least a couple per pool. Sevpomrazvedka from Il 18 was the first to die. Without science, no way.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 22 October 2020 11: 56
              0
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Without science, no matter how.

              And before, how many ships were in NIRO, Promrazvedka, TsKTIS of Promrybolovstvo, and plus they also attracted (rented) the industrial court from other departments. How many world discoveries. The discovery of the North Atlantic Ridge alone is worth it.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 22 October 2020 12: 12
                0
                Murmansk Sevpromrazvedka, IL 18 in the state. Under 80 vessels, basically new Polish half-bats and German Omul have taken everything to private owners. It will be difficult to recover, but we will recover. The owners have already appeared. It is the masters of their labor. In general, Peter 1 had a decree every three years. publicly execute the fishery, so that others do not steal. drinks
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 22 October 2020 11: 34
            -1
            Average news for you. Money has been allocated for two NIS medium-tonners. I wanted three. There is no money for three large-tonners. This issue was discussed at the meeting. good
            1. gramatey
              gramatey 22 October 2020 14: 12
              0
              Julitta is going ... Both two will be pre-allocated to the Far East. Two-thirds of Russian fish are caught there. And when will they be built :(
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 22 October 2020 18: 58
                0
                NIS differs from a fisherman only in the presence of laboratories for studying marine life. If they take a mastered standard project, then it will quickly turn out 2-3 years.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 22 October 2020 11: 44
          0
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Pinro is alive, there are even two MPCs.

          Thank you for at least something alive. It is clear that they are now branches, as well as AtlantNIRO, as a branch of the FGBNU "VNIRO"
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 22 October 2020 11: 48
            0
            I hope you have read the above news. We want 6 NIISov.! hi
      2. gramatey
        gramatey 22 October 2020 10: 28
        +3
        You are not mistaken. PINRO ceased to exist as a separate institution. Now it is the Polar Branch of the Moscow VNIRO. The team is downsizing.
  • iouris
    iouris 22 October 2020 09: 53
    -1
    Perhaps in thirty years a "fish day" will be introduced in workers' canteens (if the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese have not eaten all the fish by that time).
  • Alexander Suvorov_2
    Alexander Suvorov_2 22 October 2020 09: 54
    +6
    I remember how Putin visited Primorye ...)) He was complained about the rich catch of fish and the inability to deliver to central Russia because of .. Russian Railways! ... To which the genius of politics replied - we will solve this issue)))) ..... To this day decides)))) ... The fish goes out on the shores of Kamchatka and Primorye ... If only the prices in stores ... did not fall! ..... Capitalism is killing!
  • Gvardeetz77
    Gvardeetz77 22 October 2020 11: 44
    +2
    I used to like to go fishing in the bays of the Vyborg Bay, the wind is not a hindrance, because there are many islands, fish in the dastat (well, less than in Ladoga, but still), the last few years have gone into a big decline, and the people (not American, not Ukrainian , and ours, local) connects this with the construction of SP-2, the infrastructure of which affects the bays where bream, pike, pike perch spawned, which were a year-round ban on fishing. Now the prohibitions remain and there is no fish left, and when the gas is released, it will be even worse, the noise will oppress it. I am not an opponent of SP-2, I am an opponent that everything is done through ..... all for the sake of money.
  • Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 22 October 2020 12: 02
    +4
    How many of these initiatives for the development of the fishery complex have been.
    I remember during the presidency of Medvedev they promised the UBR quotas "under the keel." You are building a fishing seiner of the MRS-225 type, the enterprise is allocated quotas for catching bottom-food species (pollock, cod, navaga, flounder ...) 300 tons. This is a maximum of 10 fishing trips, they will be caught in a month and a half. The condition is construction at Russian shipyards. The terms are long, the price is high, the prepayment is not less than 60%.
    The topic is dead. Built and renovated in China.
    The throughput capacity of Russian Railways is extremely low during periods of fishing season.
    A deficit of the container fleet is being created. There is not enough storage space on refrigerators in Primorye.
    The factories on the coast stand with modern equipment, they are not inferior to the Norwegians and the Americans, because every year there is a Japanese / Korean or Chinese representative of the buyer (special in quality) at each fish factory.
    Quotas for catching pollock, cod, navaga, flounder, halibut, etc. will not be allocated to the applicant who owns a fishing vessel under foreign flag. The vessel must be in Rosmorregister and registered in the Russian port. The FBG catch permit specifies the number of quotas and the name of the vessel. When the applicant submits an application for allocation in the package of documents, he attaches a certificate of ownership and affiliation (flag).
    There is no need to plan catches at an accelerated pace, every year they take fish no less than the past.
    The fish need to be restored.
    The cost of fish, in addition to production costs, also includes a fee for the use of FBR (the price and species are listed in the second part of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation), the cost of transportation, handling and storage.
    Almost all the owners of fish processing companies are deputies, senators, so orders for Russian shipyards are more like a "political nod to the president" in piece copies.
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 October 2020 14: 15
    -1
    Well, when in our Pyaterochka a kilogram of meat becomes cheaper than a kilogram of fish, then it will be possible to say that something has moved from a dead center to a positive side !!! good
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 22 October 2020 16: 08
    -1
    And what were they (those on another planet) counting on when they were selling fishing boats? That the private trader will sell the catch to the state, so the state processing went there, and there was no other alternative besides directly reloading the catch into the sea to the same Norwegians with the Japanese, the easiest way. Now they dreamed for themselves to build 107 whole ships, and the garbage that only 7 will be built by the end of the program, and absolutely do not care that there were thousands of them and now 100 wet dreams (of a patriot).
  • Alexander Yaroshenko
    Alexander Yaroshenko 26 October 2020 02: 44
    0
    Yes, this bunker sitter, the wedding general, does not control anything, not even his own liberal elite ...