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New people and new parties in Russian politics: how their activity develops after the elections

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More than a month has passed since the single voting day in the Russian Federation. As you know, new, recently created political parties took part in the elections. How are their political activities developing now?


The regional elections, in fact, were a dress rehearsal for the upcoming elections to the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation in 2021. The Administration of the President of the Russian Federation is now working on the issue of how to create a renewed political scene in the country: such "heavyweights" of Russian politics as the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party or "Fair Russia", for example, have long been not perceived by a significant part of society as opposition. And the core of their political leaders is aging: Gennady Zyuganov, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, Sergei Mironov are people of retirement age, and there are not so many young people in party politics.

"New people" and "For truth" - two new (according to documents) parties


Among the recently emerging parties, political scientists highlight the New People party. She proved to be very worthy in the last elections and continues to develop considerable information activity in the regions. For example, in the Ulyanovsk region, representative Dmitry Krasichkov is trying to challenge the decision of the election commission: the results of voting in the constituency where he ran and won the majority of votes were invalidated.

Interestingly, the “New People” overcame the 4% barrier in 8,0 regions in which they took part in the elections to regional parliaments. These are Kaluga Region - 7,5%, Kostroma Region - 7,0%, Novosibirsk Region - 5,7% and Ryazan Region - 15,02%. In the elections to the Tomsk City Duma, the party gained XNUMX%, ranking third after the "heavyweights" of the United Russia Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

The big advantage of the election campaign of the “New People” party was the use of network marketing technologies. As you know, the leader of the party is Alexey Nechaev, the founder of the Russian production company Faberlic. In marketing, including network marketing, this person, for obvious reasons, understands much more than many representatives of the old political parties. And if United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and the LDPR partly relied on the networks of their regional organizations, then the New People were able to relatively quickly build an agitation network, which allowed the party to show very good results. If now it actively manifests itself in the information space during the year, then a pleasant surprise may await “New People” at the elections to the State Duma.


The success of the New People party is associated with a competent pre-election campaign

Party "For Truth" managed to get the only deputy - in the Ryazan region. According to the order, the place in the regional duma was to go to the party leader Zakhar Prilepin. But the writer refused it and as a result, Grigory Parsentiev will become a deputy of the regional legislative body.

Among the examples of the party's activity in the media space, one can name the announced creation of the "Alliance of Teachers against the Unified State Exam". This movement should contribute to the improvement of the domestic system of school education, including through the abolition of the USE. In addition, Za Pravda proposed to hold a social referendum with the introduction of three issues for citizens' discussion - on the introduction of a basic income, on a pension from 60 years with a reduction in the retirement period for women by 2 years for each child born, on the introduction of a “child million »- transfer of one million rubles to a special deposit for a newborn citizen of Russia. Although, of course, it is extremely unlikely that the party will be able to implement the idea of ​​a referendum.

For whom the political future shines


Another newcomer to party building, the Direct Democracy Party, demonstrates less informational and political activity than New People and For Pravda. As a result, the average result of a party in elections in the regions of Russia ranged from 0,29% to 2,29%, which is significantly less than not only for Novye Lyudi with an average result of 7,27% and For Pravda with a result of 6,92%, but also the Russian Party of Pensioners for Social Justice (RPPSS), which showed a result of 5,9%, passing in 7 regions out of 9, where it nominated candidates.

Thus, judging by the political and informational activity among the newly created parties, there are obvious leaders - these are "New People", "For Truth" and the RPPSS. At the same time, the last two parties can draw off part of the electorate from Fair Russia and the Communist Party, Za Pravda also from the Liberal Democratic Party and even United Russia, and New People can unite more moderate liberals who are hesitant or unwilling to follow Alexei Navalny. To all appearances, the direct democracy parties do not yet have a political future comparable to the listed organizations.
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  1. SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 20 October 2020 18: 10 New
    +4
    Give me a batch of "Sofa Warriors!" yes
    Join the party with your sofas! smile
    1. Clear
      Clear 20 October 2020 18: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: SRC P-15
      Give me a batch of "Sofa Warriors!" yes
      Join the party with your sofas! smile

      Alexander, what kind of discrimination crying but what about those who have an Ottoman or a Spherical bed for 250 dollars, or a Folding bed?


      Parnian Furniture bed for $ 210
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 20 October 2020 18: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Clear
        Alexander, what kind of discrimination and what about those who have a couch or a Spherical bed for $ 250, or a folding bed?

        The more expensive the bed, the higher it will stand in the party on the list! Well, with an ottoman, he can apply for the position of some assistant. laughing
        1. Clear
          Clear 20 October 2020 19: 04 New
          +9
          Quote: SRC P-15
          Quote: Clear
          Alexander, what kind of discrimination and what about those who have a couch or a Spherical bed for $ 250, or a folding bed?

          The more expensive the bed, the higher it will stand in the party on the list! Well, with an ottoman, he can apply for the position of some assistant. laughing

          And, with a folding bed, under the armpit, in general, you can quickly run from party to party. lol
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 20 October 2020 19: 07 New
            0
            Quote: Clear
            And, with a folding bed, under the armpit, in general, you can quickly run from party to party.

            Do not take with clamshells - there is nothing to clog the party. smile
            I'm afraid we will fly in for a flood on the site. yes
        2. Gato
          Gato 20 October 2020 19: 20 New
          +2
          with an ottoman can apply for the position of some assistant

          And with a folding bed, they are generally opportunists and deviators. am
          1. Civil
            Civil 21 October 2020 09: 55 New
            +3
            They began to promote the type of "New People", all these are cardboard fools, not parties ...
            1. voronin
              voronin 22 October 2020 19: 47 New
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              Quote: Civil
              They started promoting like "New People", all these are cardboard fools, not parties

              But they feed on the budget.
    2. Gato
      Gato 20 October 2020 18: 42 New
      +7
      Join the party with your sofas

      You are apolitical (C). The sofa is a means of producing new party cadres lol
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 20 October 2020 18: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: Gato

        You are apolitical (C). The sofa is a means of producing new party cadres

        For some reason I thought that the means of production is what new party cadres are made of on the couch. yes
        1. Gato
          Gato 20 October 2020 19: 01 New
          +6
          Ueli recourse ... Let it be technological equipment.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 20 October 2020 19: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: Gato
            ... Let it be technological equipment.

            Just about: the means of production in "technological equipment" (this is to avoid unnecessary party personnel) laughing
            1. Gato
              Gato 20 October 2020 19: 24 New
              +3
              Um ... a curious way of fighting for the purity of the party ranks ...
    3. vVvAD
      vVvAD 21 October 2020 18: 58 New
      -1
      Quote: SRC P-15
      Give me a batch of "Sofa Warriors!" yes
      Join the party with your sofas! smile

      And there is already a worthy candidate for the post of head laughing
  2. Masha
    Masha 20 October 2020 18: 17 New
    +8
    new, newly formed political parties took part in the elections. How are their political activities developing now?

    How, how ... temporarily quieted down ... accumulate strength until the next choice ...
    1. Clear
      Clear 20 October 2020 18: 26 New
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      Quote: Masha
      new, newly formed political parties took part in the elections. How are their political activities developing now?

      How, how ... temporarily quieted down ... accumulate strength until the next choice ...

      Masha, it is important that at the moment of calm they do not fall asleep like an old gelding in shafts lol
      1. Masha
        Masha 20 October 2020 18: 36 New
        +5
        The alarm clock is on! laughing
        1. Clear
          Clear 20 October 2020 18: 41 New
          +9
          Quote: Masha
          The alarm clock is on! laughing

          Are they really so lonely that they decided to set an alarm? belay
          1. Masha
            Masha 20 October 2020 19: 38 New
            +7
            Excuse me ... I didn't hold a candle ...
  3. Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 20 October 2020 18: 20 New
    +9
    The author accidentally told the truth:
    The Presidential Administration is currently working on how to create a renewed political scene in the country: such "heavyweights" of Russian politics as the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party or "Fair Russia", for example, have not been perceived by a significant part of society as opposition for a long time.

    This means that again the Kremlin has muddied a cunning scheme, trying to create the appearance of opposition in order to distract people from the real opposition, which is being strangled with all its might.
    1. Clear
      Clear 20 October 2020 18: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      The author accidentally told the truth:
      The Presidential Administration is currently working on how to create a renewed political scene in the country: such "heavyweights" of Russian politics as the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party or "Fair Russia", for example, have not been perceived by a significant part of society as opposition for a long time.

      This means that again the Kremlin has muddied a cunning scheme, trying to create the appearance of opposition in order to distract people from the real opposition, which is being strangled with all its might.

      Well, here you immediately recognized the cunning scheme. In my opinion, people change when they already come to power.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 20 October 2020 18: 52 New
      16
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      This means that again the Kremlin has muddied a cunning scheme, trying to create the appearance of opposition in order to distract people from the real opposition, which is being strangled with all its might.

      There is no serious opposition in the Russian Federation, from the word at all. Serious oppositionists are either physically eliminated, or imprisoned, or washed out in shit so that the people perceive them as city madmen.
      Here many rejoice at the success of the Russian Federation. Type - "GIVE MORE SANCTIONS", "We are the strongest" and so on ...
      Guys, answer me the question, what has been done GOOD in the Russian Federation in 30 years?
      I predict screams of this nature, they say factories are opening, the army is being equipped, new weapons are being produced. At the expense of factories and plants, I will say that this is all private (big) business, and often not even with Russian assets. But what about small and medium-sized businesses?
      The army is equipped? Exactly? Vaughn Siluanov proposed to reduce the army. This is with world militarism, Russophobia, new weapons, and so on ...
      So what good has been done in the country, what did our helmsmen promise after the collapse of the USSR to this day?
      Life has become more stable? Are we confident in the future? Has medicine become free and at the level of world standards, or maybe education has become better?
      For 30 years we have been hypocritically fooling around. And they continue to do so. Taking the last away from the people.
      6 five-year plans of deception, sabotage and hypocrisy! In terms of GDP growth, we are between Congo and Samoa! PPC what an achievement.
      In order to sober you up, let me remind you that after the war, FOR TWO FIVE YEARS, Stalin raised the country from ruins, poverty and hunger! And made 2 economies in the world! FOR TWO FIVE YEARS, CITIZENS! And then they won the space race!
      What we have now. The economy is not even weak, but dead. GDP growth is a laughing matter. The demographic collapse, the growing chasm between the rich and the poor, the general banking bondage of the population, the decline of health care and education to the ground. Guys-6 FIVE YEARS OF SUCH ASS!
      So why should we be happy? Is there a reason for jokes or optimism?
      And no need to talk about the 90s, they say they knocked us down ... in the 45th the world war ended from which our country emerged, though the victor, but bled, poor and hungry. And there in the 45th there were much more problems in comparison with the 90s. TWO FIVE YEARS!
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 20 October 2020 19: 49 New
        -9
        Quote: NEXUS
        Guys, answer me the question, what has been done GOOD in the Russian Federation in 30 years?

        Probably, you have not caught the time of developed socialism? Do you want me to remind you of what was not in the USSR and what is available to an ordinary citizen today?
        Not today:
        - endless party congresses, conferences, party literature with its notes, slogans about the unity of the party and the people ... Advertising has successfully won this niche;
        - endless queues for furniture, cars and other high-demand goods;
        - restrictions in the choice of household appliances, electronics, fiction, clothing (sneakers and jeans, in particular);
        - restrictions in the choice of food products, as well as the lines in which the population was idle for several hours a day;
        - restrictions in choosing a trip abroad;
        - no one will arrest you for communicating with foreigners and will not accuse you of espionage;
        - a shortage of building tools, building materials (today you can build a house from materials purchased in a store);
        etc.
        Quote: NEXUS
        For 30 years we have been hypocritically fooling around. And they continue to do so.

        Nobody fools your head. In the early 90s, a criminal coup d'etat and the seizure of power and state assets by a group of people took place in the country, who are still trying to prove to the remaining one hundred and forty million citizens that everything happened by their civil choice, in accordance with the laws and in the manner of a civilized change to The best.
        Capitalism with all its wolf grin, private property and speculative market economy was returned to us, while explaining that spending money on social programs is bad.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 October 2020 20: 01 New
          +9
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Probably, you have not caught the time of developed socialism?

          I was born in the USSR, dear.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          endless party conventions,

          Absolutely not? laughing
          Quote: ROSS 42
          slogans about the unity of the party and the people ..

          There is ... it just sounds a little different. Stories about the Russian world from the very top. Yeah ...
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Advertising has successfully conquered this niche;

          Which you probably like. wassat Especially about constipation and hygiene products such as pads and tampons. wassat
          Quote: ROSS 42
          endless queues for furniture, cars and other high-demand goods;

          Dear, it is you who did not find the times of developed socialism. If desired, all this was bought quickly enough. Only people from this did not make a cult, as you do now.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          restrictions on the choice of household appliances, electronics, fiction, clothing (sneakers and jeans, in particular);

          The electronics were world class. Don't bother about what you don’t know. About jeans ... are you in jeans tailored in China now extremely happy?
          Quote: ROSS 42
          restrictions in the choice of food,

          PPC ... did you ever live in the USSR, dear? All was well with the food until your Tagged One with his jeans and gum.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          restrictions on the choice of travel abroad;

          And now you go to Turkey to eat free whiskey and feed the bugs in a third-star hotel.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          no one will arrest you for communicating with foreigners and will not accuse you of espionage;

          People talked to foreigners and blamed most of those who later worked for the Western special services.
          Or are they imprisoned for this a little now?
          Quote: ROSS 42
          shortage of construction tools, building materials (today you can build a house from materials purchased in a store);
          etc.

          Have you seriously written this game now?
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Nobody fools your head. In the early 90s, a criminal coup d'etat and the seizure of power and state assets by a group of people took place in the country, who are still trying to prove to the remaining one hundred and forty million citizens that everything happened by their civil choice, in accordance with the laws and in the manner of a civilized change to The best.
          Capitalism with all its wolf grin, private property and speculative market economy was returned to us, while explaining that spending money on social programs is bad.

          But so that people don't get up, they are told tales about jeans, trips to Turkey and the opportunity to buy a Chinese car.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 20 October 2020 21: 21 New
            -8
            Quote: NEXUS
            I was born in the USSR, dear.

            And Galtsev is your idol? ... Ha ha ha ... In my time, Arkady Isaakovich Raikin enjoyed great success and the songs of Vladimir Vysotsky were banned. I have not lived in Moscow, but have been there passing through and compared the assortment of Moscow and Kemerovo stores. if you were deprived of this and in your mature memory you can only scrape together the past of Gorbachev's times, then do not boast of this in front of me and do not put yourself in a stupid position in front of people who are older than you ...
            I do not remember. Have you read Brezhnev's Malaya Zemlya? Do not puff your knowledge here in front of those who began to write equalizing to the letters "Recipe" at school with pen number 11 and carried to school the sippy inkwell, which you saw only in the pictures.
            A connoisseur of Soviet times ...
            1. dauria
              dauria 20 October 2020 23: 48 New
              +6
              and songs of Vladimir Vysotsky were banned


              Yah ? And there were Vysotsky's records, even "to the orchestra", and films with his songs. Not all, of course ... But no one put anyone in the seventies for a reel of film with Vysotsky. And in the 60s, the people simply did not have tape recorders.
              1. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 21 October 2020 17: 05 New
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                Quote: dauria
                Yah ? And Vysotsky's records were, even "to the orchestra", and films with his songs.

                From what year they began to release Vysotsky's records, do not remind? then I will remind you:
                1968 "Songs from the film Vertical" (Flexible plate. Code ZZGD-000867, ZZGD-000868). Songs included: Farewell to the Mountains, Song of a Friend, Summit, War Song.

                Simply put - an insert on the "Horizon".
                The first songs of V. Vysotsky appeared in the early 60s. Were you in the world then or where else? So, cassette recorders were a luxury and songs were played on "reels" with the help of:

                Or something like that. Here's the official news:
                During Vysotsky's lifetime, his songs did not receive official recognition in the USSR. In 1968, a campaign was launched in the press to discredit his musical and poetic work. Until 1981, not a single Soviet publishing house published a book with his texts. Censorship restrictions were partially lifted only after Vysotsky's death, when the collection of his poetry "Nerve" was published

                And here you remembered "vinyl" and Parisian records ...
                Adieu, handsome men!
                1. dauria
                  dauria 21 October 2020 18: 41 New
                  +1
                  So, cassette recorders were a luxury and songs were played on "reels" with the help of:


                  What kind of Vysotsky in 1960? Who was interested in him then? A snotty kid on the background of front-line soldiers. Tape recorders in the 60s? Not everyone had TVs, especially in the villages. Cassette players? Yes, I first saw "Spring" in 75th. They looked like an alien miracle. But the records have already been. And the radio. And reel-to-reel portable "Romantic-3". Vysotsky's "gymnastics" was played on the radio. And my brother brought the tape from the institute hostel in 73. And most likely you are not an ancient mammoth, but the same age as him. And it seems to be forgetful. wink
                  No one has ever "spread rot" against Vysotsky at the state level. And showdowns and intrigues among the creative fraternity - they still eat each other now.
          2. your1970
            your1970 21 October 2020 00: 26 New
            -4
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: ROSS 42
            endless queues for furniture, cars and other high-demand goods;

            Dear, it is you who did not find the times of developed socialism. If desired, all this was bought quickly enough. Only people did not make a cult out of it, as you do now.

            1987 year
            my mother decided to buy me Chinese sneakers ... leather ... to the institute soon
            To receive a purchase voucher, it was necessary to hand over 100 kg of butter to the district. This butter was bought from acquaintances, friends, in the village and even ...... in district shops !!
            gained 2 kg in 100 months, received a notification - brought it to the store, went to buy ...
            43 size !!!!!! - and I need 45 what , bought - if you do not redeem, the coupon is canceled and the oil must be collected again
            Then, for 2 months, my mother, through friends, was looking for "lucky people" in neighboring areas with size 45 instead of the required 43 ...
            Found it !!!
            changed ...
            5 months + 100 kg of butter + nerves + the price of sneakers (I don't remember how much, something is within 20 rubles)
            = 1 pair of Chinese sneakers

            This extreme is because of some unfortunate sneakers ...
            Whistle dancing around crystal vases or God forbid - CRYSTAL CHANDELIERS I don't even want to remember ... The woman - our surgeon because of her broke the nose of the woman investigator - the chandelier was divided ... the nose itself then returned to its place ...
            the whole village laughed - but the case was hushed up despite the fact that the beaten was in uniform, because she tried to use her official position in order to intercept the queue



            Quote: NEXUS
            shortage of construction tools, building materials (today you can build a house from materials purchased in a store);
            etc.
            Have you seriously written this game now?

            grandmother began to build a cellar with her grandfather. A neighbor, who did not like the construction, dashed off a complaint to the OBKhSS-they are building from stolen materials. Comrade came ... fellow but my grandmother was the chief accountant in Agricultural machinery and she knew all this canoe as our Father ... so everything was only through shops / invoices / checks / receipts - which saved

            about the shortage of building materials, it's true, you could only buy the simplest things.
            But an electric drill, for example, was no longer possible to buy - they were not stupidly on sale at all, for no money
            1. your1970
              your1970 22 October 2020 01: 16 New
              0
              that's what I like about VO - 7 miners poked into "-" without delving into the text and galloped on to mark the territory ... and then suddenly someone will be ahead ...
          3. Digital error
            Digital error 21 October 2020 08: 55 New
            +4
            Quote: NEXUS
            he is told tales about

            "new" people who are for the "truth", yeah laughing
            Spoilers are under the auspices of the AP, not new parties, it's clear.
            For this (the first success of the "cardboard fools") and Kiriyenko in the west, they decided to press for sanctions ... children and grandchildren ...
          4. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 21 October 2020 12: 29 New
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            Dear, it is you who did not find the times of developed socialism. If desired, all this was bought quickly enough.

            "If desired" is through the right people bypassing the law? A good system, what is already there ...
            Quote: NEXUS
            Only people did not make a cult out of it, as you do now.

            Seriously? Apparently, the materialism of the Soviet era passed you by: the obligatory wall "like people", the obligatory crystal in it "like people", a car that was considered not a means of transportation, but a luxury, etc.
            Quote: NEXUS
            The electronics were world class. Don't try to talk about what you don't know.

            Oh yes ... especially color TVs "fire into every home". Or cassette recorders, mounting on boards in which there was such snot that they shortened to the screen plate.
            In general, world class electronics it was obtained from this by many months of manual refinement by experienced specialists. I remember how my father always had either a TV or a tape recorder on his desk - and next to him was a tester, an oscilloscope, a soldering iron, a box with parts and a bunch of diagrams. And the smell of rosin over it all ... smile
            Quote: NEXUS
            About jeans ... are you happy with jeans tailored in China right now?

            Anything is better than endless rows of black trousers of the same style. It was easier for my mother to sew from patterns than to take out clothes.
            By the way, here is another good example of the era - not buying, but getting.
            Quote: NEXUS
            PPC ... did you ever live in the USSR, dear? All was well with the food until your Tagged One with his jeans and gum.

            As I understand it, the USSR ended beyond the Moscow Ring Road and the border of Leningrad. smile
            Because in the same Kirovsk-Apatity in the first half of the 80s, meat was already sold by registration.
            And a joke about long, green, smells like sausage - this is still an era dear Leonid Ilyich.
            1. Antonio_Mariarti
              Antonio_Mariarti 21 October 2020 15: 20 New
              +1
              I agree with you, although I did not live and was born in the distant 97, but I remember and remember the stories of my grandfather and grandmother to this day. For example, he is still surprised, there was a lot of agricultural land in the Tomsk Region, now it is not even close in terms of their quantity, but there was not always little meat in stores, and if the quality was bad, where did it go? After all, now in our market almost everything is piled up with local production (milk, meat), and you can count farms on your fingers. In fact, almost all of this went to Central Asia, Africa and so on, the fact that the USSR fed half of the world there is some truth here.
      2. Hagen
        Hagen 21 October 2020 13: 59 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        There is no serious opposition in the Russian Federation, from the word at all. Serious oppositionists are either physically eliminated, or imprisoned, or washed out in shit so that the people perceive them as city madmen.

        Are you talking about Navalny and Platoshkin? Do not make me laugh. There is simply no serious demand for opposition either from the authorities or from the population.
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 20 October 2020 19: 02 New
      +9
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      The author accidentally told the truth:
      The Presidential Administration is currently working on how to create a renewed political scene in the country: such "heavyweights" of Russian politics as the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party or "Fair Russia", for example, have not been perceived by a significant part of society as opposition for a long time.

      This means that again the Kremlin has muddied a cunning scheme, trying to create the appearance of opposition in order to distract people from the real opposition, which is being strangled with all its might.

      Criminal cases are brought up, and some are imprisoned .. There is no systemic opposition, and not a systemic one is harshly prosecuted .. The situation is sad, and for everyone, both for the authorities and for citizens, because when the boiler explodes, it is not clear who can come to power .. will definitely explode ..
      1. Digital error
        Digital error 21 October 2020 10: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        There is no systemic opposition

        Because such parties will not be registered, i.e. will not become part of the "system" until the closed ratings show comparable support for "new people who are for the truth" - then the opposition will be registered (otherwise, they will not stop pointing fingers at respectable people who do not register) - when the "system" can "digest" it with impunity.
    4. populist
      populist 20 October 2020 22: 46 New
      +5
      Fan-fan
      This means that again the Kremlin has muddied a cunning scheme, trying to create the appearance of opposition in order to distract people from the real opposition, which is being strangled with all its might.

      You are absolutely right! This is exactly the case.
      For almost every election (and maybe for every one), the authorities create several fake parties to deceive the narrow-minded inhabitants. And these aforementioned parties, supposedly, were created to fool voters.
  4. tatra
    tatra 20 October 2020 18: 25 New
    +2
    It's funny when the same as a blueprint enemies of the communists, who are equally for such power and the System, as after their capture of Russia, equally completely devoid of a sense of responsibility for the country they took away from the communists and their supporters, portray opposition to each other. For 70 years under Soviet power, and for 30 years after their capture of Russia, they did nothing useful for the country and the people, and did not even offer only meaningless incantations about "freedom", and false ones about "democracy."
    1. Clear
      Clear 20 October 2020 18: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: tatra
      It's funny when the same as a blueprint enemies of the communists, who are equally for such power and the System, as after their capture of Russia, equally completely devoid of a sense of responsibility for the country they took away from the communists and their supporters, portray opposition to each other. For 70 years under Soviet power, and for 30 years after their capture of Russia, they did nothing useful for the country and the people, and did not even offer only meaningless incantations about "freedom", and false ones about "democracy."

      How did you allow, and who is to blame, that the enemies of the communists captured Russia?
      1. tatra
        tatra 20 October 2020 18: 49 New
        -1
        That's what I wrote about, the enemies of the communists categorically do not want to take responsibility for their capture of Russia, because they are completely devoid of a sense of responsibility for the country, which was taken away from the communists and their supporters.
    2. nnm
      nnm 20 October 2020 18: 44 New
      +9
      The correctly respected Tatra says:

      crying
      1. tacet
        tacet 21 October 2020 11: 20 New
        -1
        Vissarionich was a communist in name only.
    3. Gato
      Gato 20 October 2020 18: 51 New
      +3
      This is all true. And where are the real communists? Well, or at least the trade unions, which are known as the "school of communism"
      1. tatra
        tatra 20 October 2020 18: 54 New
        -2
        Why ALWAYS, when I write about the enemies of the communists, they "switch the arrows" to the communists? Why do you all have nothing FOR each other?
        1. Gato
          Gato 20 October 2020 18: 58 New
          +5
          Past. I am not an enemy of communist ideology, rather the opposite. Just name the communists you think are real, not clowns like Ziu.
          1. tatra
            tatra 20 October 2020 19: 04 New
            -4
            Enemies of the Communists, learn to debate. I wrote a comment about you enemies of the communists. If something can be refuted in my comment - forward, no - do not answer.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 22 October 2020 06: 56 New
              -1
              Quote: tatra
              Enemies of the Communists, learn to debate. I wrote a comment about you enemies of the communists.

              Thanks to people who are similar to you in an ideological sense, today in Russia there are only 5-7 parties of the communist wing in a registered state, which, with a small number of their members, cannot unite into one whole. It is you who are not capable of having a productive discussion. Therefore, from you, who consider as your enemies everyone who is even a little bit different from you, everyone scatters. You inside yourself cannot figure out why you should play the role of the unifier of the entire left movement ?! Even the most massive party of communists, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, which considers itself the successor of the VKP (b) -KPSS, has changed its shoes in key ideological terms and today is “drowning” “capital” for the power. Laughter on a stick !!! Nothing good will come of you (the communists under the flag that you have on your avatar) until you understand yourself and understand the true causes of death of the USSR. The idea of ​​socialism and the Soviets was, and still is, good, but the implementers could not escape the temptations of capitalist consumerism. Alas, there is no one to implement it even today.
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 20 October 2020 19: 20 New
            -2
            Quote: Gato
            Just name the communists you think are real, not clowns like Ziu.

            Nikolay Nikolayevich Platoshkin ... Nikolay Nikolayevich Bondarenko ... These are the brightest and most famous figures of the left forces.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 21 October 2020 20: 56 New
              0
              From Platoshkin, a communist is like from Trump. And Bondarenko from the same opera.
        2. Clear
          Clear 20 October 2020 19: 01 New
          +8
          Quote: tatra
          Why ALWAYS, when I write about the enemies of the communists, they "switch the arrows" to the communists? Why do you all have nothing FOR each other?

          So from your posts, even neutral in the blackboard, it is clear that the enemies of the communists have taken power from the communists. So I ask how it happened, and who is to blame for the fact that the enemies took power away from the communists?
          1. tatra
            tatra 20 October 2020 19: 08 New
            -4
            In very rare cases, even if only for the sake of profit, the enemies of the communists are able to agree with the opinion of normal people. So, they, like normal people, believe that the responsibility for the February Revolution and for the country and people after it is borne by those who arranged it, and for the October Revolution, and for the country and people after it, the Bolsheviks bear. But in the case of the capture of the republics of the USSR by IMI, they have complete schizophrenia. They want to own the country, but they categorically do not want to take responsibility for their seizure of the USSR and for the country and the people after the seizure.
    4. Hagen
      Hagen 21 October 2020 14: 24 New
      -1
      Quote: tatra
      enemies of the communists, who are equally for such power and the System, as after their capture of Russia, equally completely devoid of a sense of responsibility for the country, which they took away from the communists and their supporters

      Well, they made fun! Some communists took the country away from other communists, and you are here for which of them? laughing
  5. Gato
    Gato 20 October 2020 18: 38 New
    +7
    Was the article published as a political advertisement?
  6. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 20 October 2020 18: 44 New
    +2
    So far, I cannot perceive all this otherwise as a further fruit of dwarf splits - such as splitting the active Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the 90s into a "passive Communist Party" and all these offshoots such as "Fair Russia" and "Communists of Russia" and so on. By analogy, the movement that once (one might say) led the "Yabloko" - also disintegrates and spreads, with accompanying gas bubbles and pshikaniya - which we observe, with some support "at the very top" from those interested in erosion and dispersal a liberally oriented electorate for a variety of rumors.
    So even with a big stretch I cannot call these parties anything new or something fresh - in our society there is a long stagnation of fresh ideas, some perceive as such different levels of "parrot" from Western motives, but this is not a product but a "product" in best case.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 20 October 2020 19: 04 New
      +8
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      So even with a big stretch I cannot call these parties anything new or something fresh - our society has a long-standing stagnation of fresh ideas,

      The idea of ​​socialism is always fresh .. laughing Platoshkin does not suit you, an excellent program in my opinion ..
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 20 October 2020 19: 16 New
        +4
        Vladimir, all the "communists" and "socialists" do not suit me, from the word at all. Such an impression that they were created in order to take votes from each other in the elections. Instead of uniting and acting as a united political front. that they are driven either by personal ambitions, or someone is driving them. Each party has "its own" socialism, small-town. And this says only one thing, that the parties do not have theories and ideology. And this speaks of populism and the absence of a clear program.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 20 October 2020 19: 47 New
          +8
          Quote: parusnik
          Such an impression that they were created in order to take votes from each other in the elections, instead of uniting and acting as a united political front

          This also does not suit me, Platoshkin, by the way, constantly repeats about unification, but for some reason, the rest are in the forest, some for firewood .. This is the most serious problem of the communists / socialists, in my opinion, which is "orchestrated" by today's ruling class, for they are very profitable when a huge party is fragmented .. and for this there is the Communist Party .. it is the ZYU who is the one who plays on the side of capital ..
          socialism, small-town. And this says only one thing, that the parties do not have theories and ideology.

          I agree that for the most part it is. But the problem is still in fragmentation and in the number of supporters, quality is formed from quantity, and there are enough true adherents of the idea ..
          And this speaks of populism and the absence of a clear program.

          The program is just a clear one, the same Grudinin had a clear program, in contrast to the eternally re-elected, and now completely zeroed out .. And the image is populistic, it just appears as a result of fragmentation, when fragmented and there is no united front, there is a feeling that everyone rowing for himself .. But still I think that it is not for nothing that so many leftist parties and trends have appeared, it looks like a staged action, where the conductor is today's ruling class, and the baton is ZU ..
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 20 October 2020 19: 56 New
            +4
            Hmm ... the ruling class remembers: "and if small people are gathered in the party, surrender the enemy, freeze and lie down. The party is a million-fingered hand clenched into one crushing fist" (c). Therefore, they do everything that there were many chopped off fingers .. And if they sew, what would a monster turn out, so that people would turn away. smile
          2. Knell wardenheart
            Knell wardenheart 20 October 2020 20: 16 New
            0
            Communism has been largely discredited in our country, and this must be admitted. The communists spoke and lied no less than the authorities of the new Russia, the communists also promised - no less. As a result, in a country famous for its total control and a huge, gluttonous spy-power apparatus, everything was simply and irresponsibly merged, and the host of highly ideological adherents sold their pitiful little souls of the new power and ideology, which stupidly plundered everything built with such labor and pain - and their more honest brothers for years they looked at all this, uttering rivers of dull monotonous mumbling and erecting the habit of wiping trousers "a la later the Communist Party" to the state of the absolute.

            First we need normal capitalism. And a normal foreign policy, in which there is no task to inflate our patched and thoroughly emaciated carcass to the size of a blue whale - but there is a task to crush the markets of neighboring countries and distant allies that have money for their goods.
            If we implement this, the question of the competence of the planners of the next utopia will be less controversial for me than before.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 20 October 2020 21: 07 New
              10
              Quote: Knell Wardenheart
              the communists also promised - nothing less.

              The main thing is that social justice really was, that the subsoil really belonged to the people, that education and medicine were free, that social elevators worked much better ... and in general the country was proud of something.
              First, we need normal capitalism.

              Do you seriously believe that there is normal capitalism? I highly recommend looking at Oleg Komolov, he literally lays out on the shelves about "normal capitalism" He was, as long as the USSR and socialism, or rather tried to be normal ..
              1. Knell wardenheart
                Knell wardenheart 20 October 2020 21: 32 New
                +2
                Every time I read something about "social justice" or "subsoil belonging to the people" I directly feel how indignant the logic of historical events inside me.
                You can disagree with me, but the level of social justice in the USSR was, albeit somewhat higher than now, but still terrifying.
                The average person was very severely limited in opportunities, the existence of which he was more and more aware over the years. "Who needs" was dissected on the Volga and served in departmental institutions, over the years this practice gained momentum more and more - good sanatoriums, good children's camps, departmental summer cottages, special rations, better supplies, queues for housing in the best houses, trips abroad, etc. For an ordinary person, all this also fell from time to time - however, one must understand that now you could save-and-buy or take out a loan-and-buy - and then even having money a person would still be incredibly limited in opportunities, I would even say - discriminated against. The division into categories of supply of cities, the growing deficit, which was covered by "who follows" from non-economically viable sources - these are not manifestations of "social justice".

                As for the "subsoil" - the subsoil in the USSR did not belong to the people (and not to the bourgeoisie, of course) - worse - they belonged to a huge and stupid bureaucratic hydra, which deigned to spend it on triple dominance over the United States by means of nuclear deterrence, and then deigned to sign treaties, according to which all this was tormented by pins and needles practically for nothing.
                This hydra deigned to spend this money on the distribution of loans to various foreign bums, who do not want / cannot return them until now. This money was spent on slandering the tanks for the countries of "young socialism" who harassed them in some stupid and mediocre military campaigns. then they threw us politically and economically. This money was spent on the stupid distribution of resources, mostly obtained in the RSFSR for the Union republics and mediocre allies, even when the mood of these republics was clearly visible, and the mediocre allies were falling apart before our eyes. For me, there is no fundamental difference to the super-mega yacht of Abramovich, billions of $$$ were spent or to help brotherly Vietnam - THIS MONEY GONE FROM THE COUNTRY.

                And this means that someone here was left to rot in a wooden barrack with all the amenities in the yard, someone was not supplied with gas, someone enjoyed riding a bicycle to work - so that some Hafez Assad had fresh tanks for his wet fantasies.

                I personally come from Moscow time - and I very well caught the time when 74 years after the establishment of Soviet power - in the capital, KARL! In the center ! People lived in communal apartments with sagging ceilings and no hot water. Of course, it was just a hellishly overwhelming task, so that it could not be solved, you are a vigorous louse! Planning the level of God!

                So, in brief, my attitude to our "glorious past".
                1. depressant
                  depressant 21 October 2020 09: 22 New
                  +3
                  Nice monologue, Knell, and very accurate. I am still shaking from the way in which the international political authority of the traitors from the Politburo, the Central Committee of the CPSU, ministries and departments was obtained, namely, by pouring money into pseudo-socialist regimes. Well, like this!..
                  Two dollars for the regime, one for a secret foreign common fund. Or vice versa. And everyone is happy: the tsar, or a pseudo-communist leader at the head of the regime and members of the secret party common fund. The main thing is to find an excuse to withdraw money from foreign accounts of the USSR and redirect it where necessary.
                  And we, the citizens, could not see it !!!
                  Colossal money - either stolen, or lost in the Tsar's toilets! So colossal that if they hadn't been lost, we would have been ahead of the rest of the planet - not in terms of fake "influence", but in terms of economic power ...
                  The Soviet people were ready to endure, if only the "brothers" were good. We were kind and generous. Grunting about sending funds to some starving Ethiopia was considered bad form.
                  We just didn't know ...
                  And so I think: how are they fooling us now? What is the deception based on? Yes, on the same, only in a different wrapper. They just donated $ 20 billion, if I'm not mistaken, Zimbabwe, or whatever it is called. They say they have lithium. Like, we will develop and take a leading position in this matter. And then some States will come, and even China will tie up, and instead of lithium - a shish with a kick in the ass, and money - bye! This is how it is in Kyrgyzstan. But something else is striking! Lithium will be developed by capitalists (if any), unbuckling the Russian Federation as a tax (if unfastened), and $ 20 billion for a gift - a gift !!! - has already unfastened the state budget --- yes, your division !!! And me - noodles about leadership.
                  Because the Kremlin brethren are firmly convinced that I, an ordinary man in the street, simply cannot live in this world without her, the Kremlin fraternity, rotten pseudo-leadership among the "partners" of at least some kind of honor. And so I'm supposedly ready to eat their noodles.
                  Rest assured not ready.
                  In general, everything is the same as in the USSR - no longer hiding, but based on the same mossy tricks of fooling.
                  We don't have capitalism! There is a disfigured corpse of socialism, brainwashed and pumped up with drugs. He still walks, but we do not teach.
                  1. Knell wardenheart
                    Knell wardenheart 21 October 2020 09: 47 New
                    0
                    Thanks ! Here, too, in the bull's eye! People endured, they were fed with fairy tales - and a significant portion of the money went out of the blue, and no end could be found. This is the historical experience that we would need to take from that era. That the state is hammering a bolt on its own population, makes it not its own, with a high degree of probability.
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 21 October 2020 11: 15 New
                      +3
                      Still would!!
                      Just imagine, I’m opening Yandex the other day, a picture: angry migrants at some construction site, the view of a policeman from the back. Asian migrants yell something like, "Russians, get out! Get the Russians away from us!" And this is on our land!
                      So much more.
                      When the first wave of covid was going on, Moscow entrepreneurs began to massively hire migrants as distributors of food to their apartments - orders via the Internet. They did not like the working conditions, and they, the migrants, immediately set about organizing their own trade union - a trade union !!! Hint about which Russian, so he will be fired immediately.
                      Next.
                      The dockers of one of the Vladivostok shipyards rebelled and threw helmets at the administration, which had come to negotiate the dismissal of director Yusupov. And who are these dockers? On the faces - Asians, the same as Yusupov himself.
                      Next.
                      Putin is joining an international organization for the rights of migrants, and now non-citizen migrants will be paid pensions under some conditions.

                      If we put these facts together (and how many such facts I don’t know yet!), Then, in general, we have played out. Our Kremlin dreamers, whose dreams dissolve in the foggy distance of the 2030s, think that having appeased the newcomers through the rotting of their own citizens, they will force them to work for their bright dreams, without demanding anything in return? Naive! A little more, and the migrants will demand from them, through their naturalized representatives, what is so dear to the dreamers from the Kremlin - what constitutes the very raison d'être of their existence - power!
                      The very power that they are so afraid to give to us, citizens. And no constitutional law on the terms of citizenship of a presidential candidate will save! Few representatives of the former Soviet republics were born in the USSR on the territory of Russia? And have they forgotten their roots?
                      And there is a suspicion that this scenario, along with others, is allowed. They say that, having taken away our power, the migrants will treat us more mercifully than the embittered Russians - they will not hang on poles! And then the citizens threaten ...
                      I would like to ask: really? Kyrgyzstan to help you. There, people in power have to be rescued from an angry crowd: they, the citizens, are there, and the migrants are here. Taking into account the passionarity of the contingent arriving in our country.
                      1. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 21 October 2020 21: 53 New
                        +3
                        Quote: depressant
                        Do our Kremlin dreamers, whose dreams dissolve in the foggy distance of the 2030s, think that having appeased the newcomers through the rotting of their own citizens, they will force them to work for their bright dreams, without demanding anything in return? Naive! A little more, and the migrants will demand from them, through their naturalized representatives, what is so dear to the dreamers from the Kremlin - what constitutes the very raison d'être of their existence - power!

                        And here we are dreaming of a socialist revolution wassat !!! and a civil war awaits us with citizens from Asia for their labor rights !! Wonderful!
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 22 October 2020 01: 25 New
                        +1
                        so that you are aware - due to the fall in the dollar exchange rate and the pandemic - the number of migrants who arrived in the Russian Federation is 6 times less than the outflow from the Russian Federation ... they hence running .....
                        For example, what happened with the scandal and flashed in the news
                        "Present time" visited a camp for migrants in the Orenburg region of Russia, which is on the border with Kazakhstan. Earlier, Kyrgyzstan took more than 500 Kyrgyzstanis from the local city of Sol-Iletsk, who were taken home - among them there were more than 50 infected with COVID-19. that Kazakhstan would open its borders to travel spread even before the country opened a temporary transit corridor for Kyrgyzstan for more than 500 Kyrgyz citizens who were taken away by bus, it was reported that the border would be opened on May XNUMX.
                        Therefore, migrants from all over Russia began to come to the Orenburg region - not only Kyrgyz, but also Uzbek. They all hoped they could return home.
                        Now there are several migrant camps in the region - Uzbek tent camps are located near Orenburg, Buguruslan and the Mashtakovo checkpoint near the Kazakh border. The Kyrgyz camp - there are about 500 people, including pregnant women and children - in the Buzuluk region right in the field. "
                        It has become senseless for Central Asians to work here ... they are left either with housing, or who has nowhere to leave.

                        And the fact that in Moscow (or Vladivostok) they are mistaken for Tajik / Kyrgyz guest workers - our citizens of Asian (and not only) nationalities who have lived here all their lives and go on watch from home
              2. Knell wardenheart
                Knell wardenheart 20 October 2020 21: 34 New
                +1
                Countries of normal capitalism:
                Switzerland
                Germany
                Belgium
                Netherlands
                Finland
                Sweden
                Norway
                Italy
                Czech Republic

                The list could be continued. There, of course, "gays" and "migrants" and in general they "sold all their souls to the plutocrats" - but except for all this there people live and do not survive.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 21 October 2020 21: 45 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Knell Wardenheart
                  Countries of normal capitalism:
                  Switzerland
                  Germany
                  Belgium
                  Netherlands
                  Finland
                  Sweden
                  Norway
                  Italy
                  Czech Republic

                  - the question: is I needed in any of these countries ??? with a family, with chronic ailments and a modest amount by their standards? (I live in a 3-floor house)
                  1. Knell wardenheart
                    Knell wardenheart 21 October 2020 22: 11 New
                    0
                    Let me tell you from the experience with which I directly intersected.
                    I have a friend of a dude, at the age of 12 his mother divorced his father, met some German and took her son to Germany. It was in the early 2000s.
                    There, of course, the new dad did not really need him, and therefore the dude from the age of 18 was on a long leash - and from 20 on a very long leash, etc. He gradually mastered the language from 0, got a labor profession or something like a plumber. I can miss something, but he did not apply for citizenship, he has a residence permit or something like that. Dude of very average abilities, I would say. To whom really nafig this Germany did not give up and who got stuck there, between the habits of the last 15-18 years and one part of the family, and Russia, where he has a newly married dad, to whom he also did not give up. So from time to time the guy is carried away to wet dreams in the style of "oh, I'm tired of everything, I'll dig some money and sod into Russia to look for a real Russian, drink birch sap there, xs." -in that spirit.
                    To which I tell him - Vasya (let's call him Vasya) - how much do you earn in Germany? With his five-day effortless work in various professions such as a plumber, a postal operator, etc. Vasya answers me - well, there are 2 thousand. I will notice that Vasya is renting an apartment with a balcony, Vasya has a car in which he drives around Europe in the summer and drinks beer with sausages at Oktoberfest or sunbathes somewhere in sultry Spain or Greece. For Vasya, this is the NORM, no, this is his ORDINARY BORING GERMAN EXISTENCE.
                    Vasya has a computer that he regularly updates, and from which now 95% of gamers in Russia would have an epileptic fit of black envy. Vasya has a good electric guitar, which he bought somewhere in the collapse of the Czech Republic, and which here he would at best contemplate on the desktop wallpaper. And so, he pours on it and for him it's just a spiritual toy, and not a two-year average earnings in the Russian Federation (given the current Euro rate).
                    Vasya dreams of the Russian Federation. In which his equivalent salary would be enough to cover physiological needs, rent a room where there is a thread in Yuzhny Butovo and ride the subway.

                    So here's a story - I'll add on my own that Vasya is such a worker, he quite often changes jobs because it seems to him that he is "driven" or that he "does not grow in his career." Of course, maybe not without it, but intersecting with people who here are killed on the same profs, I understand that this is of course heaven and earth.
                    1. aybolyt678
                      aybolyt678 21 October 2020 23: 06 New
                      +2
                      But I won't leave Russia, who will treat kittens today free of charge from half-starved children? Who in my village will do osteosynthesis for a dog or organize artificial insemination of pigs and cows? modern graduates are not capable of this ... The whole question is in the concept of "happiness" which is a sense of perspective. Yes! they are there with expensive guitars and sausages !!! but in Russia there is a huge, unrealized prospect! this prospect is being killed by our government, by the coronavirus, democracy, laws .. I’m better here in a three-story cottage, without vacation for years, almost without days off, than there - for life as a nurse or a plumber. lol
                      1. Knell wardenheart
                        Knell wardenheart 21 October 2020 23: 54 New
                        -1
                        The pension will be taken away, nat. the currency in which you keep money will devalue, no matter how you kill yourself - they will still say and do so that your children will owe (it is not clear what and to whom), and they will also feed you with fairy tales of all colors of the rainbow, artlessly and sometimes even disgustingly mediocre trying switch the focus of your attention from what is happening around to some obscure abstractions and low-value movements.
                        Here, most likely, what will be the prospect. The current population of Russia does not seem happy to me and does not look like that - it looks indifferent, tired-angry and sad-sarcastic. But it's nice that all of this even delivers to you - it may be so easier to calmly gaze at the abyss that has opened at our feet. You can't fill it with cats and sick grandmothers.
                      2. aybolyt678
                        aybolyt678 22 October 2020 05: 43 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
                        The pension will be taken away, nat. the currency in which you keep the money will devalue, no matter how you kill yourself - they will still say and do what your children owe (it is not clear what and to whom)

                        laughing I live in the village .... a vegetable garden - a football field, breeding animals in barns. Moreover, in a German village, each one has 200 pigs with cattle. So my pension and all my savings in kind are deposits with horns, dimes and tails laughing - Sperm Bank is shorter laughing ..... The education of children is also a deposit. So it's not all bad smile The real problem is WHAT to teach children ???
                        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
                        You can't fill it with cats and sick grandmothers.

                        My workplace is in the regional center, there are categories of low-income people ... It hurts to look at them. I do not help out of pity, but out of the struggle for Faith in Good. And here the Germans have complete grace wassat maybe because they believe in God ?? or don't they drink? And they don't drink at all ........ Faith is such
            2. your1970
              your1970 21 October 2020 00: 39 New
              +3
              Quote: Svarog
              that social elevators worked significantly better
              - if they worked BETTER - The USSR would still exist ...
              And so Misha the combiner was taken upstairs by an elevator ...
        2. your1970
          your1970 21 October 2020 00: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          So even with a big stretch I cannot call these parties anything new or something fresh - our society has a long-standing stagnation of fresh ideas,

          The idea of ​​socialism is always fresh .. laughing Platoshkin what does not suit you, great program in my opinion ..

          that is, you were not embarrassed - that with one point of the program he promised to reduce taxes to entrepreneurs (down to zero), and the other - to raise the salaries of all state employees ??
          Even the USSR did not succeed in this trick ...
          Therefore, no one unites with him - populism, nothing more, and not his program
    2. Knell wardenheart
      Knell wardenheart 20 October 2020 20: 07 New
      +3
      I think that it is not important how the formation of our state structure will be called - it is much more important that these people have a plan, real, down-to-earth, not shabby and drawn up by adequate and moderately talented economists, including - and not some abstract to the point of disgust, and for a very short time horizon - 10 years.
      When Ostap is "carried away" in the category of the millennial Reich or world communism, it always turns out BAD. So that we can play different sexual experiments again, we need to bring our standard of living at least to that of Poland. And at the same time, with a correction - WITHOUT taking into account some muddy digital merrymaking and the "golden rain" of petrodollars. Stupid - the economy of goods, services, tourism, innovation, military exports, etc. - but NOT oil / gas and other polymers.
      All this just needs to be used to meet this simple and understandable goal - in 2 stages, both of which fit in one human generation or 1/5 century. This is the time that we theoretically have to "fit" into the 21st century, not as some strange relic.

      Short-term planning is something I don't see in our politics AT ALL. Either the projectors are carried away to distant distances, where between dozens of industrializations the issues of the standard of living and% in world exports are bashfully hiding, or speeches are pushed by venigree orators, the essence of whose words always boil down to golden "for everything good, against everything bad and sodomites."
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 20 October 2020 21: 14 New
        +6
        I think that it is not important how the formation of our state structure will be called - it is much more important that these people have a plan, real, down-to-earth, not shabby and drawn up by adequate and moderately talented economists, including - and not some abstract to the point of disgust, and for a very short time horizon - 10 years.

        And there is such a plan ... It is called personal enrichment .. The capitalist thinks only of himself, and if you are not a "partner" who can offer something, then you are not with them, which means they will not think about you and the state ..
        In order for us to play different sexual experiments again, we need to bring our standard of living at least to that of Poland

        For the seventh year we have grown negatively, there are no prerequisites, even to the level of Poland.
        Experiments are really not needed, there is a model that worked and not very badly, although not without flaws, this model needs to be brought to perfection.
        1. Knell wardenheart
          Knell wardenheart 20 October 2020 21: 42 New
          +2
          The place of the arrogant and selfish capitalist grabber in our implementation of the socialist model has been very harmoniously taken by the voluntarist bureaucrat. And our model worked worse than the Western one at a lower level of prosperity for a particular person for decades - as a result, it did not result in a world revolution, or in a better standard of living than in the West, or in a greater number of freedoms or opportunities, in relation to the same Western countries.
          When some Japan after BB2 caught up and overtook us, it was a great reason to think about the overall effectiveness of our approach to the economy - but we thought about the Buran ship and Afghanistan. In the USSR there was no "protection from the fool", which at the very least works under capitalism - and any character could crawl into power with his ideas, often delusional and harmful, and the whole system immediately rushed to implement these ideas with the stupid obstinacy of a maniac.
          Corn? Rocket madness? The accession of socialism in Africa and Latin America? Restructuring? Anything, my lord! They threw all normal affairs, language on their shoulder, propaganda to the fullest, and the dashing troika again takes the box body away from the REAL PROBLEMS OF THE COUNTRY, which eventually finished it off.
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 21 October 2020 21: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Knell Wardenheart
        , not shabby and composed by adequate and moderately talented economists

        tasks of national importance should be solved by the Academies of Sciences, and responsibility for drawing up plans should also be appropriate - criminal.
        1. Knell wardenheart
          Knell wardenheart 21 October 2020 21: 50 New
          +1
          They put us in prison with or without reason, there was such a period. It didn't lead to anything good. In the work of professionals and the placement of accents, sometimes the devil himself will break his leg, and if they punish in full, then our people are like that, they will again write nasty denunciations on each other, plant it, etc. I believe that, first of all, the responsibility of authority is needed - if a person has shown himself to be a fool, a bureaucrat and a mediocrity, then he should go down in history just like that, without all this "ambiguity" and PR noodles that we love.
          If a person has the ability and he is not - taking up an important position, make a plan at least approximately 100 days in advance - state it clearly, and if during your term of office the plan was implemented, then the planner is good if his efficiency and scale are also at the same time height.
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 21 October 2020 20: 57 New
      -1
      And what is this great program? How is she specifically different?
  • parusnik
    parusnik 20 October 2020 19: 00 New
    +3
    The president still forms the government, according to the list presented by the prime minister, whom he himself appoints. And the deputies only vote, dilute the new faces of the State Duma, so what? Actually nothing, the same pears only sideways. Nobody is going to change the system, from the presented parties. These parties are satisfied with everything, but they believe that where it falls off it is necessary to plaster and paint.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 October 2020 19: 17 New
    0
    The regional elections, in fact, were a dress rehearsal for the upcoming elections to the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation in 2021.

    Mister author? You probably think that we generally live in a bunker and do not receive any information from the outside world? This is not true!
    At the same time, the last two parties can draw off part of the electorate from Fair Russia and the Communist Party, Za Pravda also from the Liberal Democratic Party and even United Russia, and New People can unite more moderate liberals who are hesitant or unwilling to follow Alexei Navalny.

    I don't know who will take what from whom, but here's an interesting video:
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 20 October 2020 19: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The regional elections, in fact, were a dress rehearsal for the upcoming elections to the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation in 2021.

      Mister author? You probably think that we generally live in a bunker and do not receive any information from the outside world? This is not true!
      At the same time, the last two parties can draw off part of the electorate from Fair Russia and the Communist Party, Za Pravda also from the Liberal Democratic Party and even United Russia, and New People can unite more moderate liberals who are hesitant or unwilling to follow Alexei Navalny.

      I don't know who will take what from whom, but here's an interesting video:

      And I trust these numbers ..
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 October 2020 08: 58 New
    +1
    I am afraid that the parties are new, but everything will remain the same.
  • Valery Potapov
    Valery Potapov 21 October 2020 09: 18 New
    +1
    Alas, this is just a new attempt to pull away the undoubtedly prevailing leftist attitude of the people. The effectiveness of the actions of the restorers of capitalism is overwhelming. Until the next murder of a football fan by not brothers ...
  • Old Bolshevik
    Old Bolshevik 21 October 2020 12: 15 New
    +3
    All this is just a continuation of the bourgeois, counter-revolutionary circus since 1991. A simple shuffling of an old deck of bourgeois cards. Not a single political party, including the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (Counter-Revolutionary Party of the Russian Federation), sets its main goal - the overthrow of the power of the oligarchy, the bourgeoisie in the Russian Federation, the restoration of socialism and Soviet power of the working people. In a state where all legal means of changing power are blocked, elections are completely discredited by the government itself and turned into a fake circus, the socialist revolution becomes the only way out of this situation, the only salvation for the country and people from the destruction of thieves and crooks, hucksters and speculators by the occupation bourgeois power.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 21 October 2020 21: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Old Bolshevik
      the socialist revolution becomes the only way out of the current situation

      where will you find so many proletariat? now all the bourgeois .... almost no one works on machines. What is the goal of the socialist revolution? Where is the Idea capable of rallying the masses? How can this idea be brought to the mind of the average person in a society where no books are read and all the press is bought by imperialism? but still a plus ++++++++++++++++
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 21 October 2020 12: 39 New
    +3
    The technology has been known for a long time. Before the elections, organize one-day parties with louder slogans ...
    So that everything is as before. And not to let the dissatisfied, and let off steam on all sorts of "smart people", new people, For the truth, etc.

    And you can always write the numbers you need
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 22 October 2020 04: 04 New
    +2
    baboon games for Kremlin money ..., continuous show-offs and an eternal show.