The Armenian side has lost another city in the conflict zone, President Sarkissian named the condition for the recognition of Artsakh

Azerbaijan special forces in Fizuli

Armenian President Armen Sarkissian made a statement in which he outlined Yerevan's position on the possibility of recognizing the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. Let us remind that by now a strange situation has developed, in which the Armenian authorities call on the international community to recognize Artsakh, but they themselves do not.

According to Sargsyan, which he expressed to several media outlets, Yerevan will accept the recognition of the independence of the NKR in the following situation: if Baku continues its military operation, refusing to negotiate a peaceful settlement.

At the same time, the President of Armenia, trying to explain why Yerevan does not recognize the independence of Artsakh, made the following statement, which was called dubious in Azerbaijan. According to him, expressed in an interview "Kommersant", non-recognition of the independence of the NKR "is connected only with the fact that the Armenian side wants to resolve the issue peacefully."

Against this background, the Azerbaijani side showed the city of Fizuli taken under its control and the raising of the state flag of the Republic of Azerbaijan in its center. One of the accents in the video presented by the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense was made on the dilapidated Azerbaijani cemetery in this settlement:

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[Proton]

Of course, immediately after the recognition of Artsakh by Armenia, hostilities will stop, Azerbaijan will withdraw its troops, money will flow like a river to Yerevan. (sarcasm)

[Smoked]

After recognition of the independence of Artsakh, Armenia will receive sanctions, and even more so after the "referendum" and accession. IMHO, the Armenian elite will never agree to this, who wants to lose capital abroad.

[Stas157]

Armenians do not really need this Karabakh on a campaign. They sit in Russia and no one goes to fight there. Armenia itself did not even recognize NKR as its territory ... But in words they will fight to the last drop! Comedy Club of some kind.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: Stas157

Comedy Club of some kind

Garik Martirosyan and Misha Galustyan just

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Garik Martirosyan and Misha Galustyan just

Well, Galustyan is so accustomed to doing dirty tricks that he can't even appear in advertising without pits!

[Shurik70]

Quote: Stas157

Armenians do not really need this Karabakh on a campaign. They sit in Russia and no one goes to fight there.

Well, in France, for example, the Armenians are actively campaigning for ... the French to go there.

[vlad106]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Well, Galustyan is so accustomed to doing dirty tricks that he can't even appear in advertising without pits!

This is their national trait. Provoke, dirty trick ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Stas157

... But in words they will fight to the last drop! Comedy Club of some kind.

the joke is already running

The conference is attended by Armenian patriots from Paris, New York, Los Angeles, Berlin and London and by joint efforts they think how to force the Russian Vanya to fight for Karabakh, but in such a way as to raise money on their fellow tribesmen.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

The Armenians sitting in Russia do not need Armenia either. Once they left there.

[Alena-Baku]

And you compare the welfare of Armenians and Russians, then tell me which one will leave.

[CSKA]

Quote: Alena-Baku

And you compare the welfare of Armenians and Russians, then tell me which one will leave.

)))) Well, of course. All Russians are poor, and all Armenians are rich. Especially the Armenians are taxi drivers who sometimes take me.

[Alena-Baku]

there is such a thing as a percentage.

[CSKA]

Quote: Alena-Baku

there is such a thing as a percentage.

Do you have data? Figures in the studio.

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

Why should I compare? I have not left my own country with my small fortune.

[alexmach]

Armenia itself did not even recognize the NKR as its territory

this non-recognition may well be related to the peace process of the 90s.

[Professor]

Quote: Stas157

They sit in Russia and no one goes to fight there.

How is it not going? Is Margarita Simonyan not a nurse on the front line with her people now? And her husband is not a machine gunner in Karabakh?

[vlad106]

Quote: professor

Quote: Stas157

They sit in Russia and no one goes to fight there.

How is it not going? Is Margarita Simonyan not a nurse on the front line with her people now? And her husband is not a machine gunner in Karabakh?

)))))))))))))) ++++ Oleg! Super

[vadim dok]

They sit not only in the Russian Federation, but also in the USA, France, and all over the world.

[Artavazdych]

Don't say what you don't know. A lot went to the front from Russia. Armenian military registration and enlistment offices give bribes to get to the front line

[Buka001]

even the cancer on the mountain whistled

[vlad106]

Quote: Artavazdych

Don't say what you don't know. A lot went to the front from Russia. Armenian military registration and enlistment offices give bribes to get to the front line

Here is the whistle of Yerivan! 100500 thousand Armenians from Russia gathered in Karakbakh to defend their brothers. All tickets in these directions have already been bought by the Armenian diaspora for hundreds of years.
But why has a female battalion been recruited from girls in Karabakh?
Yes, you all sit in warm places in Russia and only blow the whistle that you are already going to the front

[Artavazdych]

Not true. For example, I am sitting in a prison ("in quarantine") in an office building. And so it would go 100%.
Although, eh, wherever there - I have 8 children.
But I communicate with relatives - they go, and a lot, believe me.

[Zaurbek]

After the recognition of the NKR, there may be problems with France and the United States and Western countries ... They want to be both good and with the NKR

[Kot_Kuzya]

An attempt to sit on two chairs at once does not lead to anything good.

[Zaurbek]

Elites keep money in the West ... kids study there, Everyone wants to be handshake.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Well, let them get what they deserve. Does Gaddafi's experience teach anyone? I don't understand politicians who keep money in foreign banks at all. They are outright traitors. It is as if Stalin kept his money in London and American banks, and his children lived in London and New York.

[Proton]

Over time, History will put everything in its place. But in the coming years, many Armenians will remember the "betrayal" of Russia, but they will happily forget anti-Russian actions, insults at us and new monuments to "heroes" in the center of Yerevan.
I am not a supporter of Azerbaijan, but a proverb about Armenia comes to mind - "Don't spit in the well, you will have to get drunk."

[Zaurbek]

They and Georgians have always had this theme. Prudence only appeared when threatened with destruction. And then, they tried to conclude agreements with RI, sometimes not to conclude them.

[Roman1970_1]

And what does Gaddafi have to do with it?
He stupidly borrowed money to Sarkozy, and instead of returning the revolution he turned it over. There the French ruled

[bairat]

Not only. He kept his savings in Eurobanks, then the Europeans privatized it all, just in case they banged it.

[Pereira]

Gaddafi's son kept the money in a safe that could be opened by a fingerprint. They didn't bang him. They just cut off his finger.

[Eugene-Eugene]

Yes, in Libya, many of the Europeans taxied. For example, Gaddafi used ships to carry asphalt for road construction from Spain, he distributed money to many people in such a way

[1976AG]

They will wait until there is no one to recognize. Someone owes them everything, while they themselves are in the shadows. The people of Karabakh will thank them.

[Konnick]

When were the Armenians going to resolve peacefully? Yes, since childhood, the dream of the physical destruction of the Turkish nation for the events of a century ago, and maybe even earlier history, is laid in them. They will not be able to live in peace with neighboring nations.

[1976AG]

Quote: Konnick

When were the Armenians going to resolve peacefully? Yes, since childhood, the dream of the physical destruction of the Turkish nation for the events of a century ago, and maybe even earlier history, is laid in them. They will not be able to live in peace with neighboring nations.

Poor Turks. They are such peaceful people, and everyone offends them. And Azerbaijanis are also peaceful people. Flies won't hurt a lot. But the Armenians are so bad. The entire region is being terrorized.

[Kot_Kuzya]

The Armenians are really strange, they themselves do not recognize, but they call on other countries to recognize Karabakh. Russia, for example, immediately recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia after the start of the Georgian aggression. Apparently, the curators of Pashinyan the little maggot want to drag Russia into a conflict with Azerbaijan, which is not pursuing a Russophobic policy.

[Old Kaa]

Recognition by Armenia (and everything goes to this) will be the beginning of an all-out destructive war of mutual destruction that will lower the economies of both countries into the Middle Ages .. Neighbors - Russia, Iran and Georgia - must immediately stop the war, otherwise they will not be happy either.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Russia, Iran and Georgia owe nothing to Karabakh. And nothing will be required even after the recognition of Karabakh by Armenia. The sheriff does not care about the problems of the Armenians, as was shown by the complete indifference of the United States towards Armenia and personally towards the little Pashinyan.

[Old Kaa]

They don't owe anything. It is simply profitable for them to stop the war. So that rockets and shells do not fly in (Iran), so that oil pipelines and railways do not explode (Georgia, goodbye to transit grandmas), so that refugees from both countries (Russia) do not pour in and so as not to lose the reputation of a reliable ally (Russia)

[Pereira]

To whom is Russia an ally? Armenia? Soros is among the allies of Armenians, 2000 people are sitting in the American embassy. So Omerika will help. Soon.

[Buka001]

Who has the spirit to shoot missiles at Iran or Georgia ?? in armenia or something)))

[kit88]

Neighbors - Russia, Iran and Georgia - must immediately stop the war, otherwise they will not do well either.

Remembered. Russia owes them ...
Russia clearly knows what, to whom and how much it owes ... and whether it should at all.
But you definitely beguiled the coast.
So so. There will be a threat to the statehood of Armenia - Russia will fulfill its duty under the CSTO.

[Herman 4223]

They had a chance to involve, there were blows on the territory of Armenia. But Pashinyan apparently does not need Russian troops to be in Transcaucasia. Or his owners don't need it.

[Thrifty]

It's too late to engage in political demogogy! It was necessary to conceive years ago, ideally, back in the 90s of the last century. And now this childish blackmail is senseless and useless, for the Armenians have already lost part of Karabakh completely.

[Mihail55]

Why are we better ??? When can we not recognize the Russian provinces as OWN? Or at least not to consider it a part of the new formation of UKRAINE? Everything is the same ... money doesn't smell!

[1976AG]

Quote: Michael55

Why are we better ??? When can we not recognize the Russian provinces as OWN? Or at least not to consider it a part of the new formation of UKRAINE? Everything is the same ... money doesn't smell!

There is no threat of destruction over Donbass. And we have stated more than once that we will not leave in trouble. So they are protected even without recognition. But Nagorno Karabakh is really under the threat of capture.

[Roman070280]

There is no threat of destruction over Donbass

And what is the threat of destruction ??
People were killed .. and buried in a cemetery .. Their relatives, forced to flee from there to the Russian Federation, would not agree with these words ..

And we have stated more than once that we will not leave in trouble. So they are protected even without recognition.

You will not be full of statements .. Only a few months as the shelling stopped .. Before that, for 5 years people lived under shelling .. and not under protection !!

[1976AG]

Yes, there were victims. Is it different in armed conflicts?
The threat of destruction is an invasion deep into the territory of Donbass with all that it implies.
Nepoima, some means they were forced to flee because of the shelling, while others for some reason continued to live under fire for 5 years. People left the danger zone long ago (who wanted to). In the rest of the territory, ordinary peaceful life. Is it very similar to what is now in Karabakh?

[Mountain shooter]

It seems to me that the Armenians have LOST this war! And the role of Pashinyan personally (with his multi-vector approach and "preparation" of the army) in this defeat is great. Morality - if you want to suffer a severe defeat - choose the "Soros" to power. And there will be defeat! It doesn't matter what - in the war or just fiddling with the country ...

[Revolver]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Morality - if you want to suffer a severe defeat - choose the "Soros" to power. And there will be defeat! It doesn't matter what - in the war or just fiddling with the country ...

Tell that to those American voters who are going to vote for Biden. Biden himself is deep in insanity, but the magpies control him.

[napalm]

Moreover, everyone knows how it will end. Sooner or later, they know that they are not the first, they are not the last. By the way, Soros seems to have found a successor to that odious personality.

[Abdallah]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

An attempt to sit on two chairs at once does not lead to anything good.

yes, I completely agree, especially with the fact that Armenians are wet with Turkish and Israeli weapons, two chairs

[KARAKURT777]

If the Armenians recognize the independence of NK, then they automatically fly out of all agreements on this topic.
Everything that does not belong to them must be returned.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KARAKURT777

Everything that does not belong to them must be returned.

But this controversial issue has been resolved by both Armenians and Azerbaijanis for a couple of hundred years. Under the tsars and under Stalin, this conflict died down, and now the fire has flared up again, and it is almost impossible to extinguish it.

[KARAKURT777]

Exactly that a couple of hundred years, for this is exactly the period during which the Armenians appeared in the region.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KARAKURT777

Exactly that a couple of hundred years, for this is exactly the period during which the Armenians appeared in the region.

I wonder where the Amaras Monastery came from - in the IV century, an early medieval monastery in the southeastern part of Nagorno-Karabakh. In the early Middle Ages, the residence of the Catholicos of the Albanian Church, Dadivank "monastery on a hill") was an Armenian monastery of the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries. half a kilometer north of the Tartar River in Nagorno-Karabakh and others? Did Azerbaijanis really profess Christianity?

[KARAKURT777]

And you do not know about this either? I sympathize. Yes, some of today's Azerbaijanis professed Christianity and fire worship. After the invasion of the Caliphate in 827, Islam began to prevail there. And none of these churches has anything to do with Armenians at all. All of them are Albanian, that is, they belong to the ancestors of Azerbaijanis.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KARAKURT777

And you do not know about this either? I sympathize. Yes, some of today's Azerbaijanis professed Christianity and fire worship.

I agree with you even if you are wrong. I cannot be right to either side, because I have friends from both sides.

[Artavazdych]

Now they are hanging you noodles taken from their own ears.
They also consider khachkars (stone slabs with crosses and inscriptions in Armenian) as their own! Only here is an interesting touch - "their" cemeteries with such khachkars, for some reason, they razed to the ground. Surprisingly unesco and many others.

[Ros 56]

I'm embarrassed to ask, but what the hell to the Armenians of the city, if more than 2 million of them hang out in Russia and somehow don't go to fight for their graves and the land of their ancestors, by the way, the same applies to Azerbaijanis. To trade, of course, not to fight, then do not fuck your mouth wide open, we are, yes we are.

[Fon elia]

If suddenly a miracle happens and Yerevan recognizes NK, then Azerbaijan will already be at war in Armenia. And ODKB will not help. This is the worst of the stress. And for Armenia stalemate.

[Livonetc]

How dramatically the attitude to the conflict has changed.
If in the beginning there was almost amicable condemnation of Azerbaijan, now, the same massive and practically contemptuous attitude towards Armenia.
Everything is according to the principle "let the loser cry".
These two states are moving forward with zeal to destroy each other.
The Armenians had a chance of a settlement, but they did not use it.
By the way, the same Azerbaijanis call Armenians Caucasian Jews.
The Armenians outwitted themselves.
Now Azerbaijan has a chance to solve the problem.
They decided to go by force.
And apparently this was the only correct decision.
However, they cannot solve the problem quickly.
The war is entering a protracted phase of development.
Further, there is the likelihood of manifestation of catastrophic problems for the state of Azerbaijan.
Let's look at Aliyev's foresight.
Pashinyan is no more than a temporary technical figure.

[1976AG]

If two states were to understand each other, this is one situation. But when the Azerbaijanis are incited to a forceful solution to the problem, this is already a completely different situation. Without Turkey's support, Azerbaijan would have been sitting exactly for another 30 years.

[Incvizitor]

Some propi.dosnye other pro-Turkish, it is not yet clear who is better than those that others promote the interests of terrorists.

[Old Kaa]

Here are his words:

Can we succeed in war? Yes, if we focus our national capacities on achieving this goal. Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan wrote about this on his Facebook page.

In particular, he noted:

1. What is this war for? For the status of Karabakh.
2. Could we have avoided this war? Yes, if they surrendered the territories and agreed to the indefinite status of Karabakh, for an indefinite period, in the absence of a mechanism for clarifying further status.

3. Could we have reached an acceptable or any status through negotiations? No, because the last opportunity to do it was in 2011 in Kazan.

4. Can we stop this war? In theory, yes, with a slightly worse option than the one indicated in the second paragraph.

5. Can a war resolve the status of Karabakh? Yes, if we succeed in the war.

6. Can we succeed in war? Yes, if we focus our national potential on achieving this goal and all together sincerely and selflessly work towards this goal. "

[Fedor Sokolov]

Very soon there will be nothing to recognize, the Azerbaijani flag will proudly fly over the entire territory of Karabakh.

[Abdula]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It seems to me that the Armenians have LOST this war! And the role of Pashinyan personally (with his multi-vector approach and "preparation" of the army) in this defeat is great. Morality - if you want to suffer a severe defeat - choose the "Soros" to power. And there will be defeat! It doesn't matter what - in the war or just fiddling with the country ...

I completely agree Pashenyan had to buy good weapons, his only mistake was not air defense, not UAVs, NOT what does not work, bought from the wrong ones, shells Ganja out of despair like from Gaza across Ashkelon

[Lyuba1965_01]

What kind of peace negotiations does Armenia speak about in general, if over 30 years of peace treaties-negotiations Armenia has not fulfilled a single point of its obligations? Taking time to give his army a break?

[ermak124.0]

Did all of Azeria complete?

[Mayor lee]

Not Azeri, you fool, but Azerbaijan.

[Lyuba1965_01]

And what obligations should Azerbaijan assume in general? Not to claim your territory? Or help in holding a referendum in Karabakh? So Azerbaijan proposed to ask for the opinion of the Azerbaijanis who lived there and were expelled from there, otherwise it would be fiction, not a referendum. But whether Armenia agreed to this is another question. And Azerbaijan also agreed to provide a corridor for the withdrawal of Armenian troops and the population that does not want to stay there. What else could Azerbaijan do? Prescribe in the agreement that he voluntarily, in his right mind and firm memory, gives his lands to the invading country?

[tihonmarine]

non-recognition of the independence of the NKR "is connected only with the fact that the Armenian side wants to resolve the issue peacefully."

Pashinyan and his comrades want to sit on two chairs.

[ermak124.0]

Traders and taxis, neither one nor the other, for some reason are in no hurry to go to fight for their country. I wonder why?

[Rubina]

The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan is tired of writing refusals to Azerbaijanis from Azerbaijan and other countries of the world for recording by volunteers.

[Abdula]

Quote: tihonmarine

non-recognition of the independence of the NKR "is connected only with the fact that the Armenian side wants to resolve the issue peacefully."

Pashinyan and his comrades want to sit on two chairs.

I agree Pashenyan is doing what he can, and the propagandists Babayan Keosanyan and Semonyan will spend as much as they can, and I think 100% they think something different about what they say, Soros will pay them, they will talk about something else

[APASUS]

Somehow the infa passed quietly, but in fact it is a very serious factor

According to the Canadian arms control group, the drones supplied by Turkey are equipped with tracking and targeting systems manufactured by the Canadian division of L3Harris Wescam. Earlier this month, Canada stopped exporting these key systems to Turkey on the grounds that the equipment was being used by the Azerbaijani army in the war with Armenia.
Turkish President Erdogan rushed to call Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau, reminding him that Turkey is a NATO member and banning the supply of drone equipment is contrary to the spirit of a military alliance. However, the Canadian authorities are also guided by the opinion of the influential Armenian diaspora in the country. In addition, the NATO leadership is clearly unhappy with the Turkish provocations that challenge other members of the bloc.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: APASUS

Somehow the infa passed quietly, but in fact it is a very serious factor

It was not posted on VO.
The fact that Canada has stopped supplying components for Turkish UAVs was announced in the middle, if not at the beginning, of last week. And the decision was made at the very beginning of October.
In principle, this was reflected in Erdogan's statement on the supply of weapons to Armenia by both the French and the Americans.
PS
I have a wild suspicion that the issue of replacing the optical systems of Canada with systems manufactured in Israel is already being considered.

[Old Kaa]

These are NATO-made weapons: the engines from Austria, the avionics are from Canada and the parts of the rockets are from Britain and so on. " engine - from Austria, avionics - from Canada, parts of the rocket - from England.
Other parts will soon have to be bought in Israel

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Old Kaa

Other parts will soon have to be bought in Israel

I believe in their technical and technological ability.
Nothing personal. Just business.

[Old Kaa]

Business is certainly there. But most likely Israel has a more important reason to help Azerbaijan - the ability to blow up Iran from the inside and thus do away with its main enemy. Raise Azerbaijanis against the central government, which for many reasons sympathizes with Armenia.
By the way, because of the Israeli lobby, the United States and Soros will never side with Armenia.

[d4rkmesa]

Cunning *** e Austrians sell Rotaxes to anyone. And so yeah, formally they object, they are trying to prevent them from joining the EU, although Erdogan is no longer interested in this.

[BAKiDAN]

I ask you to be more precise ...
THE AZERBAIJANIAN ARMY, liberated the city of Fizuli captured by the Nazi Khays !!!

[yfast]

Quote: Artavazdych

Don't say what you don't know. A lot went to the front from Russia. Armenian military registration and enlistment offices give bribes to get to the front line

And what, they take bribes?

[yfast]

What else could Azerbaijan do? Prescribe in the agreement that he voluntarily, in his right mind and firm memory, gives his lands to the invading country?

It turns out that until now he gave.

[flicker]

Armenian President Armen Sarkissian made a statement in which he outlined Yerevan's position on the possibility of recognizing the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.

Well, he admits, then what? Will conclude a military alliance between Armenia and NKR?

An open war will begin between Azerbaijan and Armenia, which in fact is still going on, only closed. Azerbaijan will start threshing on the territory of Armenia, the last on the territory of Azerbaijan (which, by the way, even though rarely happens), the peaceful life of Yerevan and Baku will end.
---
Geldings can end this war at once.
It is enough to disconnect the Azerbaijani army from the GPS - all these bayraktars and other drones will turn into trash.
Only positional protracted shelling will remain - not one of the sides will last long.
---
Let Pashinyan ask his Soros.

[Buka001]

What are you dear !? If it were not for the Russian base, and for the condescending position of Russia on the two-faced Armenia, Azerbaijan will grind the whole of Armenia into powder, and without the GPC, and without any novelties there !!!! Only one thing is needed for this, the good of Mother Russia !! The problem is that this Armenian policy is such that they are being implemented everywhere. Russian Foreign Ministry Armenians, TV Armenians, different IT companies there, Armenians. They are shorter in the Russian lobbies, the water is muddy, and the Russian Ivanushka, the Caucasian Maga, the Buryat Olkhon, the Tatar Aydar or the Cossack Ermak go and perish for all this Armenian nonsense. ???? Good nothing to say

[Egor53]

Look at the video.
The Armenians drove out the entire population from the city of Fizuli, killing a significant part of it. Seven districts with an Azerbaijani population of one million people were otgenocidal.
And now it's time to keep the answer.
Karabakh will no longer be Armenian, and the Armenians have nothing to do there.

[d4rkmesa]

Straight a million people? Why not a billion? Enough propaganda, proof, please. There have never been so many people in the Kurdistan Region together with NKAO, there is simply nothing to do there.

[vlad106]

Quote: Old Kaa

We will work sincerely and selflessly for this goal. "

Sincerely and selflessly, this is not about them.
Greed and cunning prevails over everything