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Expansion of China. Uncontested choice of Central Asia

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Source: knews.kg


Wealthy neighbor of Kyrgyzstan


In the Kyrgyz unrest, which resulted in the resignation of the president, a third party, the Chinese, suffered a certain amount of damage, which does not particularly interfere in the political life of Kyrgyzstan. The rebels stormed and plundered gold, coal and copper mines, took the leadership hostage. It cannot be said that only Chinese assets fell under the attack of the looters; among the looted there are Canadian and Russian property, but the greatest damage was suffered by businessmen from the Middle Kingdom.


The Kyrgyz are protesting. Source: gdb.rferl.org

The Chinese have long and firmly established themselves in the economic space of Kyrgyzstan. This situation has developed due to the constant upheavals in Bishkek associated with the redistribution of power. Some political analysts speak of a certain Kyrgyz attachment to regular revolutions. Parallel clan wars do not leave the country's economy a chance for any growth. At the same time, the second most powerful country in the East is located, ready to actively invest in Kyrgyzstan. Now, at the very dawn of the next revolution, Bishkek owes Beijing more than $ 4,7 billion, which is about 26% of the country's budget. China is far from Russia and does not intend to forgive loans. For every dollar borrowed, the Chinese take cheap natural resources, since the country has nothing else to pay. In general, Kyrgyzstan is a real economic recipient receiving virtually irrevocable infusions from eleven countries. Even Belarus is investing in Bishkek - an average of 500-600 thousand dollars a year, with the exception of 2015, when Minsk allocated 40 million dollars at once. The most significant donors for the Central Asian republics are Canada (on average more than $ 100 million per year), Great Britain (from $ 1 million to $ 189 million) and even Switzerland - $ 21 million. Russia traditionally holds a special place among investors, but not because it invests a lot (on average - up to 300 million dollars annually), but because since 2013 it has forgiven Bishkek's debts for more than half a billion!

As already mentioned, the main interests of the PRC in Kyrgyzstan are related to energy resources and minerals. In 2002, China and Kyrgyzstan signed an agreement on cooperation in the development of oil and gas fields located in the southern part of Kyrgyzstan. In 2014, China received the right to participate in the development of the Mailuu-Suu 4, East Izbaskent, Changyr-Tash and Chyyrchyk fields. In 2016, the Chinese had plans for the Naryn River, which has serious potential in terms of building a cascade of a hydroelectric power plant. The State Power Investment Corporation considered the construction of the Alabuginskaya HPP with a capacity of 600 MW, the Toguztorouskaya HPP - 248 MW, the Karabulunskaya HPP-1 - 149 MW and the Karabulunskaya HPP-2 - 163 MW. In total, the project costs approached $ 2 billion. At the same time, 100% of the electricity from this cascade of stations would go to the border Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China, which is experiencing a constant lack of energy. At the moment, the project is definitely stalled due to the constant political fever in Bishkek and the growth of nationalism within the country.


Source: kaktakto.com

The situation when the rich Chinese bought more than a quarter of Kyrgyzstan, flooded the country with their workers, becomes a trigger for nationalist protests. So, at the beginning of 2019, unrest broke out in Bishkek, caused by rumors of harsh treatment of the Kyrgyz in China. According to the protesters, in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of the PRC, compatriots are sent to "re-education camps" in which conditions are terrible. Anonymous “witnesses” who painted Chinese reality added fuel to the fire:

“Huge camps have been built in almost every village. Of the detainees, there are almost no those who were released alive. Food is given twice a day and beaten. Due to the fact that the discipline is very strict, many commit suicide. Basically, they run into a concrete wall and die like that. "



Natural resources are China's main target in Central Asia. Source: gazeta.ru

Chinese industrialists at home are not particularly picky about the methods of developing natural resources, and even more so in economically dependent Kyrgyzstan. Zhong Ji Mining, which is developing a gold mine in Solton Sary, pumped chemical solutions into groundwater last year and caused massive livestock deaths among local farmers. Despite the compensation paid, it came to fights between the mine workers and the youth. Stones were used, several dozen people were hospitalized. And the situation can only get worse in the future: at least 6 Chinese companies are registered in Kyrgyzstan with a population of 400 million. And the indigenous Kyrgyz in search of work have to leave for Russia for several years.

Despite some inconveniences associated with the Chinese expansion, Kyrgyzstan currently has no choice. The budget crisis associated with a deficit of $ 625 million will force Bishkek to seek help from the "big brother" from the East. Already, foodstuffs are rapidly becoming more expensive in the country, the exchange rate of the national currency is falling, and there are no hopes for an early resolution of the conflict in the government. Russia's resources for assistance in this case are seriously limited: Moscow already has enough problems with the second wave of coronavirus, protests in Belarus and the hot phase of the confrontation around Nagorno-Karabakh. Therefore, representatives of the interim government in Bishkek will have to, firstly, make considerable efforts to appease local nationalists, and secondly, create conditions for transparent spending of Chinese money. In this case, economic influence may well turn into a political plane, and the consequences will affect Russian interests in the region.

New Chinese province?


If Kyrgyzstan still has the potential to get out of the Chinese umbrella, then the issue with Tajikistan seems to be settled. Dushanbe's external debt to Beijing at the end of 2019 amounted to $ 2,9 billion, or almost 60% of the total external debt. The presence of such a generous lender allows Emomali Rakhmonov not to care much about economic reforms and the search for outside investors. At the same time, they have to pay not only with natural resources, like Kyrgyzstan, but with their own land. In 2011, Tajikistan quietly and peacefully transferred 1,1 thousand square kilometers of disputed territories of the Eastern Pamirs to China - this is 0,77% of the total territory. For independent Dushanbe, this was the third stories land transfer act to Beijing. According to experts, the land acquired by China contains 17 types of minerals: uranium, gold, bauxite, asbestos, rock crystal and the like. Tajikistan had neither the funds to develop deposits, nor a special desire to do this, but there were debts to Beijing. Nine years ago, some of this debt was written off, but economic dependence has only increased over time. Moreover, workers from China who are engaged in the construction of Tajik infrastructure facilities are massively migrating to the country. The peculiarity of investments from China is that the locals are attracted to the development of money in the last place - contractors bring their labor to Tajikistan. Local residents are very impressed by the work schedule of the Chinese. A resident of Dushanbe says:

“I was amazed when, early in the morning, I saw many Chinese people in identical uniforms walking quickly in formation through our neighborhood. They walked to the road, where trucks were already waiting for them. It turned out that these are the builders of residential buildings who live in trailers in the parking lot. Nobody noticed them, as they left after dark, at 5 am, and returned by 23 at night. Only then did I understand why a Chinese grocery store had opened nearby. They disappeared after a year. "

The authorities tried to force them to hire locals for such work, but it quickly became clear that they simply could not withstand the Chinese labor regime: a 12-hour day at a very high pace, interrupted only by a half-hour lunch right at the workplace. At the same time, the Chinese often stay in the republic for a long time, continuing to work on leased agricultural land. And it turns out well. In 2016, Chinese harvests were so good that wheat in local markets was worth 1,5 somoni ($ 0,19) per kilogram, while grain produced by local farmers was twice as expensive. By the way, the average lease term of the Tajik lands by the Chinese is 49 years.


Chinese worker at one of the enterprises in Tajikistan. Source: fergana.agency

The Chinese do not forget to develop the mineral wealth of Tajikistan. In 2019, the Chinese company TBEA began work at the Verkhniy Kumarg and Eastern Duoba gold mines in the Aininsky region, which may contain at least 52 tons of precious metal. And this is just one fragment of the history of "mutually beneficial" cooperation between China and Tajikistan. Since 2007, almost everything that is being built in the Central Asian republic has Chinese roots: roads, tunnels, high-voltage power lines, Dushanbe-2 CHPP, factories (metallurgy, chemistry, cement production) and residential buildings. 60% of all gold deposits are given to Chinese developers. As a result, according to the most conservative estimates, from 100 to 150 thousand ethnic Chinese live in the republic, who are actively employed in agriculture and industrial production.

It is not surprising that China is again thinking about revising the line of the state border with Tajikistan. As you know, journalistic articles do not appear in the Celestial Empire, but act as an element of the state information policy. In this regard, researcher Chu Yao Lu published a material in this regard in August 2020, in which he unequivocally hinted at the belonging of the current Tajik Pamir to China. The author recalled the Qing dynasty, which in the XNUMXth century was allegedly forced to give up part of the mountain range from the empire. Dushanbe has so far reacted sluggishly, in the spirit of "the parties must take the necessary measures to prevent the publication of such materials in the media." Next in line for the fourth alienation of the territory of independent Tajikistan?
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 19 October 2020 06: 17
    +5
    Alienation? It says what they bought.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 19 October 2020 06: 34
      33
      While the "smartest" "sun-faced" multi-mover forgives countries billions of dollars (in foreign currency) debts, arguing that "there is still nothing" to take from them "or" for the sake of future "friendly" relations, China does not forgive a cent to its debtors, it rakes out everything that is possible, up to dry grass and fertile land, or takes part of their territory into its possession or economic expansion for 50 years.
      1. l7yzo
        l7yzo 19 October 2020 07: 49
        0
        Miser pays twice. You must understand that this is already going sideways for China - all the neighbors hate them, not the current half of the world. This is a very dangerous game, here "you are on horseback, then the horse is on you." After all, how many wars with China's neighbors have already been, and for extermination - I think now the reasons are becoming clear to everyone.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 19 October 2020 12: 53
          11
          Uh-huh. And we, with our all-forgiving Tolstoyism - like all the neighbors just adore ...
          1. Comrade Kim
            Comrade Kim 20 October 2020 16: 20
            +4
            Different approaches.
            The Chinese, entering the country with investments, also import their own labor.
            Kirghiz, Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Turkmens do not "shine" for their people. The Chinese are systematically squeezing them out of their future provinces.
            And the Russian Federation, thanks to a flawed national policy, opens the gates to the hordes of Asians, an endless caravan rushing from their historical homeland.
            What to say.
            The Chinese are well done.
            Provide their nation with jobs, "plow" the national composition of future provinces into their own land.
            Then a referendum will be held, with an agenda: "Who is for joining the PRC?"
            And the voters are all in Mother Russia.
            The rest of the women, old people and children will be bought with "beads and mirrors".
            Local officials who ensured the "smooth" entry of "stans" into the PRC will be paid a little more.
        2. Hypertension
          Hypertension 19 October 2020 13: 43
          +8
          Quote: l7yzo
          You must understand that this is already going sideways for China - all the neighbors hate them, not the current half of the world.

          To hate - they hate, but they smile in the eyes and ask for more loans. The mice were crying, injecting ...
          Don't they hate Russia? In the same Armenia, the very existence of which depends on the Russian Federation, there was a fertile ground for the Soros seed. Do they love Turkey? And the USA? And Britain? All countries pursuing active geopolitics in one way or another get their portion of "hate". Everyone loves New Zealand. She does not climb anywhere, she raises lambs on fat pastures ...
          1. l7yzo
            l7yzo 19 October 2020 14: 50
            0
            you can hate and respect, you can hate and be afraid, you can just hate, as the very fact of existence, but there is blood hatred.
            And the fact that everyone learned to wear masks - so the masquerade has not been canceled.
            1. Fmax
              Fmax 28 October 2020 02: 48
              +1
              What does China care about the varieties of their hatred. These are powerless wild peoples who voluntarily abandoned the path of technological progress and rational thinking in favor of nationalism and a religious worldview. China will slowly devour them, piece by piece, the hatred will fade away by itself. Both Kyrgyz and Kazakhs. And he will eventually re-educate all his Islamists in the camps.
              1. l7yzo
                l7yzo 29 October 2020 05: 55
                +1
                I read the comments and don't understand - why does everyone always think that everything is eternal, or is it enough for my life? Yes, I understand that a fulcrum is needed - but in the world that's just the catch - that everything is always in motion, otherwise we simply will not exist.
        3. Petro_tut
          Petro_tut 19 October 2020 17: 26
          +3
          And the point is that from this rage-hedgehogs ate cacti, cried but ate.,.
          1. depressant
            depressant 20 October 2020 08: 39
            0
            Yes ... everyone hates China. Because in the current era, the Chinese have created an extremely effective economic mechanism for transferring the ingenuity of their people, which, by the way, is present in every nation, into the business plane. But the Chinese will have more experience in this sense.
            Who do you think invented restaurants? Chinese. In 1100. There were million-plus cities. We traded among ourselves. There were tense political relations between the two. The merchant diasporas, in order to be able to gather together to discuss matters without arousing suspicion of the authorities of political unreliability, began to arrange their meetings in taverns in the form of cultural events - they invited musicians. However, the local people liked the idea so much that it quickly caught on.
            In Europe, restaurants appeared only in 1700. If I remember correctly, then in England.
        4. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 24 October 2020 19: 44
          0
          They don't care whether the Papuans hate them or not. The main thing is to carry bananas. They will beat back their money. Outside, China, the shark of capitalism. And I think that's right. This is how everyone behaves. The USSR did not behave like that. And Kyrgyzstan, when it was part of the USSR, could not complain about the lack of work, money and food. And nobody exploited it predatory. So what are they complaining about ?! The Russians were kicked out, the Chinese came and the Americans too. Now they have learned the hard way how it is to be a Papuan in your own country.
      2. Doccor18
        Doccor18 19 October 2020 09: 21
        +7
        China does not forgive a cent to its debtors - it shoots out everything that is possible from them, down to dry grass and fertile land, or takes parts of their territory into its possession or economic expansion for 50 years.



        "Get rich."
        "You should not shackle yourself with ideological and practical abstract arguments about what name this all bears - socialism or capitalism."
        "Building a Mediocre Xiaokang Society."
        Deng Xiaoping. 1979 year.
        Since then, every Chinese sees one goal in front of him, firmly believes in it, and goes to it, no matter what. To become rich, which means respected.
        And what does VVP, and even an ordinary Russian person, believe in? Where is he going? What is its purpose? ....
        1. Serpet
          Serpet 19 October 2020 11: 53
          16
          Quote: Doccor18
          And what does VVP, and even an ordinary Russian person, believe in? Where is he going? What is its purpose?

          It doesn't matter what the first one believes. Whatever Rotenberg and Sechin ask him, he will do.
        2. Rubi0
          Rubi0 19 October 2020 19: 06
          +1
          For free, everyone here is asleep and sees a pension after 10 years of work)))) Well, to throw hats from the sofa as China overtakes the Russian Federation and builds aircraft carriers, but no one wants to work as in the article for 12 hours
          1. kyznets
            kyznets 25 October 2020 08: 25
            +1
            Well, let's say we also have 12 hours of work at construction sites. Moreover, Uzbeks leave at 18-00 and on Saturday, Sundays do not work, and our locals work at 10 and 12 hours and go out on weekends. I’m not by hearsay, we have worked like this since the summer of 19, until the summer of 20. Because "it is urgent to hand over the object" while there is work and while the money is being paid. There is no need to talk about hard-working Chinese and non-working Russians. I see such work - 10 and 12 hours regularly. Not every day already, but very often. We are not a capital or a center. We work as long as there is work and as long as they pay for it. Here, on the outskirts of Russia, there are no options.
      3. asura
        asura 19 October 2020 09: 28
        12
        The aged Soviet noviopes are simply unable to squeeze out anything from themselves except their long-defunct "friendship among the people." You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Political impotent people have no national interests, only their endless imitation. The only bright spot following the results of their rule is reunification with the Crimea, and even then it is darkened by the betrayal of Novorossiya and connivance at the murder of Russian people.

        And with Central Asia, there can be only one recipe - the return of the illegally torn away South Siberia, a tough visa regime with all these magnificent countries without exceptions, and the establishment of a sanitary corridor along the entire length of the southern borders.
      4. nikon7717
        nikon7717 19 October 2020 18: 52
        +4
        Here I have a long-standing question, to our officials from the Ministry of Finance. Why are debts simply forgiven, why do not they receive in return enterprises, plots for long-term lease for the development of minerals? Why not substitute products from the former republics, CMEA. Received these goods and give out to your population in addition to the minimum wage, for food for children ?!
      5. napalm
        napalm 19 October 2020 21: 10
        -1
        With dry grass, you're right. And the expansion is only 49 years old. And where is Damansky with them. And where is the forest, they have, and where ...... You can list it endlessly.
      6. Yaroslavl
        Yaroslavl 22 October 2020 10: 53
        +1
        everything is so ... the mnogohodovochnik is busy, only personal enrichment with his gang ... he cares about some problems of the country and the people ... I think hardly)
      7. Russian Bear_2
        Russian Bear_2 25 October 2020 06: 30
        0
        The Chinese are great in this regard, we must also do.
    2. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 19 October 2020 06: 57
      10
      Do you mean part of the territory of Tajikistan (the northern part of the Pamir)? So there we are talking about offset against debt write-off. It turns out bought.

      By article:
      As for the Chinese, who worked on the construction of industrial facilities as builders, and then stayed to "cultivate the land", I doubt that this is so.
      The fact is that modern Chinese construction workers are sufficiently qualified and receive a good salary. This profession is in great demand in China.
      The information from the article did not become news about the presence of China in Central Asia.
      In Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Okrug, the Chinese government is carrying out assimilation and resettlement of the population, so Han people are resettling from the central and eastern provinces of China to SUAO.
      Question: what are the citizens of Kyrgyzstan doing in SUAO if they are placed in re-education camps ?!
      In this region, there is a very strong radical ideas of Islam, which are common among the Kazakh Oirats (Western Mongolia, the south of the Altai Republic), Uighurs, Kyrgyz, Tajiks, Uzbeks living in SUAO.
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 19 October 2020 08: 02
        22
        But there were so many screams in Central Asia about * antiquity, about * traditions * and especially a lot about RUSSIAN * oppression *.
        Today these outskirts have sold production and returned to the * tradition * of grazing sheep. Well, why do they need all this industry? Moreover, everything has already been sold, it remains to trade territories and those who live there. Local governments, in the best traditions of the Middle Ages, sell everything they can, so they are looking for people who want to buy.
        That in Central Asia, that in the Transcaucasia, that in the western outskirts, the majority of the population is firmly convinced that they will be able to deceive everyone, but in the most extreme case, RUSSIA will not give offense. After all, she, RUSSIA has always rescued in critical situations.
        1. Petro_tut
          Petro_tut 19 October 2020 17: 34
          +3
          Well, in the most extreme case, RUSSIA will not give offense. After all, she, RUSSIA has always saved in critical situations

          Well, soon with such management, Russia will not be able to defend itself, the Russian population is rapidly dying out, Moscow is already reminding Samarkand, at such a rate in 5-7 years Moscow will begin to fight against Russian separatism in the remaining Russian-speaking regions
        2. Russian Bear_2
          Russian Bear_2 19 October 2020 17: 47
          +6
          The Chinese will teach them how to work soon, they will remember the Russians.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 19 October 2020 06: 29
    18
    Mdaaaa ... how much has been lost with the collapse of the Union, and a holy place is never empty ... the CIS, with a good organization of the case, could become a counterweight to both the EU and China, but it was not smart enough and that now the CIS is a commonwealth of poor states ... China will slowly crush Central Asia, then it will take on Russia specifically ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 19 October 2020 07: 57
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      .China will slowly crush Central Asia, then it will take on Russia specifically.

      Look faithfully and deeply. I lived with the Chinese, I know their assertiveness.
    2. napalm
      napalm 19 October 2020 21: 19
      0
      Already almost one third of the budget is due to China. And Russia has written off the debts of both Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan.
  3. Far B
    Far B 19 October 2020 06: 38
    15
    Expansion of China. Uncontested choice of Central Asia
    Is it not relevant for Russia? Very much. In the same way, they prefer to import their workers, just as they gladly pump the wealth of our bowels (and not only). Therefore, the author's assertion that Russia will not help Kyrgyzstan "because Russia now has enough of its own problems" is not worth a pittance - our government and its state do not care, "because there are enough of our own problems" (such a good excuse, high-quality , for all occasions). And Kyrgyzstan - well, what about Kyrgyzstan? She is somewhere, far away, in Central Asia. Why then be surprised when another post-Soviet republic drifts to the West or to the East? A holy place is never empty, and if Russia is not there, then there will be someone else. And if there is no participation of Russia in the Russian economy, then there will be someone else. Axiom.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 19 October 2020 07: 53
      -15 qualifying.
      Quote: Dalny V
      And if there is no participation of Russia in the Russian economy, then there will be someone else.
      ... our government and our state do not care ...

      And do we have anything to do with our state?

      Before doing the economy in the interests of the country, it is vital to change the laws in the interests of the country. In 1993, the State Department issued us a colonial Constitution. An attempt to start changing it in the interests of the country has caused some mixed reactions.

      1. Far B
        Far B 19 October 2020 07: 57
        17
        A-fi-get. You yourself spilled over to the Solovyovs yourself that nullifying the constitution is the first step, and that it’s no further than this autumn, when the state fool passes the laws corresponding to the amendments, we will somehow heal! .. That - again something went wrong ?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 19 October 2020 08: 02
          -15 qualifying.
          Quote: Dalny V
          You yourself were like a nightingale here that nullifying the constitution is the first step, and that it’s no further than this autumn, when the state fool passes the laws corresponding to the amendments, we will somehow heal! ..

          On account of the fact that with current we will live in autumn - you are exaggerating. I didn't say that. The Duma has just begun to adopt the relevant Laws within the framework of the updated Constitution, and how many more by-laws need to be adopted and rewritten ... The work has just begun. Taking into account the fact that the constitutional majority of United Russia, whose party is chaired by Medvedev, prevails in the Duma, I do not think that everything will go smoothly with the laws and by-laws. The work has just begun.
          1. Far B
            Far B 19 October 2020 08: 08
            16
            The work has just begun
            Uh-huh. Only 20 years Putin had everything about everything, what was there. In 200 years it will be possible to make real claims. Although something tells me that people like you, and in 200 years will be telling their own story - "the work has just begun, it's too early to draw any conclusions."
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 19 October 2020 08: 11
              -13 qualifying.
              Quote: Dalny V
              Only 20 years Putin had everything about everything, what was there.

              20 years? And where did Medvedev go? laughing
              Can you list what priority tasks have been resolved during this time, what today allowed us to transgress to amending the Basic Law of the country?
              1. Far B
                Far B 19 October 2020 08: 16
                16
                And where did Medvedev go?
                Why put it somewhere? He slept during his presidency, and he sleeps. Medvedev is an ordinary lightning rod for Putin. And yes:
                Taking into account the fact that the constitutional majority of the United Russia party prevails in the Duma, whose party is chaired by Medvedev, I do not think that everything will go smoothly with the laws and by-laws.
                In the period 2008-12, the chairman of EdRa, the majority party in the Duma, was not Medved, but Putin. What prevented him from pushing the necessary laws during that period? Is it really a bad dancer after all?
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 19 October 2020 08: 24
                  -8
                  Quote: Dalny V
                  Medvedev is an ordinary lightning rod for Putin

                  And who sent Libya to be torn apart?



                  But under Putin, we did not surrender Syria.

                  Quote: Dalny V
                  In the period 2008-12, the chairman of EdRa, the majority party in the Duma, was not Medved, but Putin

                  The qualitative composition of the EP has changed a lot since its inception:



                  A year later, few of Putin's supporters remained there. That is why, before the next elections, he had to create a new governing structure - the ONF, which he refused at the last elections for the same reason.

                  Voting on amendments to the Constitution showed that "you can't cook porridge" with the United Russia, and that is why he turned to the people and the people, for the most part, did not disappoint him.
                  1. Far B
                    Far B 19 October 2020 08: 33
                    12
                    1. That Libya, that Syria I, as a resident of Russia, sway very little.
                    2. If Putin, being the chairman of both the party and the government, having all the levers of influence in his hands, allowed such a global deterioration in the quality of the ruling party, then he is worthless as an organizer and leader. He can create many more different structures - and, in your words, in the very near future we will kiss with the following fact:
                    A year later, few of Putin's supporters remained there.
                    1. Boris55
                      Boris55 19 October 2020 11: 10
                      -7
                      Quote: Dalny V
                      1. That Libya, that Syria I, as a resident of Russia, sway very little.

                      In other words, you don't care that as a result of Medvedev's actions, our defense company could not receive money for a completed order for Libya (air defense systems), could not pay off banks for a loan for this order, could not pay workers' salaries (some of the workers were fired) and nearly went bankrupt?

                      When the bearded uncle comes to your house, there will be no one to protect you ...

                      Quote: Dalny V
                      with all the levers of influence in hand,

                      What makes you think that he has all the levers of influence?
                      Roughly speaking:
                      - Putin is the head of the siloviki clan;
                      - Medvedev (EP) - bourgeois clan;
                      - The United States manages banks;
                      - Russia is just beginning to rebuild itself from the occupation Constitution.
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 16: 47
                        +5
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Roughly speaking:
                        - Putin is the head of the siloviki clan;
                        - Medvedev (EP) - bourgeois clan;
                        - The United States manages banks;
                        - Russia is just beginning to rebuild itself from the occupation Constitution.

                        I reread all your comments, in this thread, I haven't had so much fun for a long time. Thank you, write again. Petrosyan nervously smokes on the sidelines.
                      2. Boris55
                        Boris55 20 October 2020 10: 18
                        -3
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        I haven’t had so much fun for a long time

                        Don't you believe that Putin is resting with Shoigu and Patrushev?
                        Don't you believe that the oligarchs do not have their own representatives in power?
                        Don't you believe that the Russian economy depends on the dollar exchange rate?
                        Don't you believe that the 1993 Constitution was dictated by the CIA?
                        Tell me, what planet do you live on?
                      3. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 20 October 2020 11: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris55
                        Don't you believe that Putin is resting with Shoigu and Patrushev?
                        Don't you believe that the oligarchs do not have their own representatives in power?
                        Don't you believe that the Russian economy depends on the dollar exchange rate?
                        Don't you believe that the 1993 Constitution was dictated by the CIA?
                        Tell me, what planet do you live on?

                        Dear, you have broken causal relationships. Putin (like any other president) is the spokesman for the interests of the ruling class. The ruling class in Russia is the "raw material" oligarchy that got its assets during the criminal privatization. Accordingly, the entire foreign and domestic policy of the state is built around their interests. Your interests, mine, as well as the interests of the majority of the population of our country, are not taken into account. All point, the rest is irrelevant. Refute if you can, of course.
                      4. Boris55
                        Boris55 21 October 2020 07: 59
                        -3
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        Putin (like any other president) is the spokesman for the interests of the ruling class.

                        Only this ruling class is not at all homogeneous. Some dream of surrendering Russia to the West (Medvedevskys) and becoming their bedding, while others want to rule Russia themselves (Putin's).

                        The "Medvedevs" really do not care about the people, for them it is a problem of the owner, but the "Putin" ones do not. the people are their support in the confrontation with the "Medvedevskys" and the West.

                        Quote: aleksejkabanets
                        The ruling class in Russia is a "raw material" oligarchy ... all foreign and domestic policy of the state is built around their interests.

                        1. It would be unwise not to use natural resources, which account for 20% of the world's reserves.
                        2. Raw materials in the country's budget ~ 30%. Russia actively trades in agricultural products, weapons, etc. Among the latter is a ban on the export of unprocessed timber. Hands reached the forest, and they will reach the rest.

                        The state is not only the violence of the minority against the majority in the interests of the minority, but also a system for the survival of the people, the preservation of their culture, language - identity. "Putin's" provide this. At this stage of the country's development, their interests coincide with the interests of the majority of the people. (see the result of voting on amendments to the Constitution). Is there anything to improve? No doubt, but it is not necessary to ruin the country for the sake of "lace panties".

                        ps
                        Read my post below on what government policy is.
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 19 October 2020 12: 59
        +9
        Let's compare the 20 years of Comrade Stalin, who gained power around 1930 - and Mr. Putin .. The IVS during this time led the country to Victory in the greatest war against the entire West, created a planetary industrial, military, scientific superpower, built a whole block of socialist countries. camp, radically improved people's lives, and so on and so on. And what can Putin's protégé of the oligarchs boast of?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 19 October 2020 17: 40
          +4
          Quote: paul3390
          And what can Putin's protégé of the oligarchs boast of?

          Do you think he has nothing to brag about? Look at the Forbes list, how many Russian citizens have appeared there during his reign? This is his main "achievement". He is very effective for his friends.
    2. Serpet
      Serpet 19 October 2020 14: 10
      21
      Quote: Boris55
      Taking into account the fact that the constitutional majority of the United Russia party prevails in the Duma, whose party is chaired by Medvedev, I do not think that everything will go smoothly with the laws and by-laws.

      Do you seriously think that Medvedev influences something? It's just biomass.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 20 October 2020 10: 20
        -1
        Quote: Serpet
        Do you seriously think that Medvedev influences something? It's just biomass.

        "State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."
  • napalm
    napalm 19 October 2020 21: 24
    +3
    Russia deliberately abandoned all those born in Russia and their children. Who came to raise the republic. Oh, I don't want to say anything more.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 19 October 2020 07: 27
    +7
    China is far from Russia and does not intend to forgive loans.

    This is the difference between a real state and a regime that is focused on filling its own pocket and trying to be pretty for everyone but its population.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 19 October 2020 07: 57
    +9
    It seems that "Russia is a generous soul" and it doesn’t care about Central Asia yet, no matter how late it may be. The PRC is pumping billions into the Central Asian republics, receiving super profits. And Russia, it turns out, and it doesn’t matter. It gave its zone of influence to China. ...
    1. apro
      apro 19 October 2020 10: 15
      +1
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      She gave her zone of influence to China.

      Is this definitely her zone?
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 19 October 2020 11: 29
        +3
        At least, Moscow thinks so, economic and military alliances have been created with the involvement of these countries. Only so far there is no particular sense.
  • Tneburashka
    Tneburashka 19 October 2020 08: 51
    +3
    The Chinese give it because this country lost almost everything a hundred years ago,
  • Valery Potapov
    Valery Potapov 19 October 2020 08: 55
    +4
    Be annoyed while you are allowed ...
  • apro
    apro 19 October 2020 10: 14
    +1
    Well, why are these snot ??? an independent and distinctive stan. Need to put in front ... to this went. And got the result. Who is to blame? Uncle Vasya Sayapin?
    And then they give them a lope .... the question why? No one can really answer. Russia today is not an integoator of the post-Soviet space.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 19 October 2020 11: 39
    +3
    And there is. "House of Officers" - "Kokhi Afsaron" in Dushanbe was built by the Chinese. One after another follows. The restaurant on the floor is Chinese. And there the border was moved.

    The laws cannot be abolished: even a person, even a country, if he does not live within his means, becomes dependent.
  • Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 19 October 2020 13: 21
    17
    In general, China's actions are understandable: they are pressing, no matter what. If only our leadership in foreign policy would do the same. The only problem is that they have a lot over the hill, steel is vulnerable.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 19 October 2020 14: 36
    +3
    And who prevents Russia from involving these republics in its sphere of influence? The hucksters and thieves don't know how to work!
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 19 October 2020 15: 44
    +3
    In Central Asia, the business of any country develops successfully if the top of the country is bribed, this is typical for Tajikistan, the Chinese do not consider immigrants from Central Asia as people at all, I recently talked with Uzbeks at a construction site about China's influence on their country, they say that their government has adopted a number of restrictions on the activities of Chinese companies in Uzbekistan, but Turkish companies are present on the market freely
  • depressant
    depressant 20 October 2020 11: 06
    -1
    What is the weakness of the Chinese? Why doesn't everyone like them? In unacceptability, in the isolation of the Chinese on themselves. In the non-adaptability of their culture to the rest of the world. In their arrogance and even chauvinism.
    Here, for example, we just posted a pirated copy of a superhero game on the Web. I will say this. With all the jambs, this is already a movie. The finest and most accurate facial expressions, natural interpersonal communication ... But that's not the point. A cute Pakistani school girl arrives with her father for a show that features all the main superheroes. First, she gets to know Thor, expressing her extreme admiration for him and thereby imposing a matrix on the further behavior of real Pakistani teenagers: this is how you need to treat America! She, America, deserves it! Indeed, the whole atmosphere of the exhibition complex in which she is located is extremely attractive with its benevolent atmosphere, insanely interesting for children, and superheroes are generous and significant, they allow themselves to be photographed from mobile phones, everyone is tolerant to a Pakistani girl, everyone is kind to her. Well, and so on. Whether this is actually so does not matter any more - it does not matter.
    What do we see from the Chinese? The Russians in their films, to put it mildly, are pee-pee-pee, despite how much they owe us, the rest are even worse or do not even deserve attention, only some indulgence is done to the Americans. That is, there is a hypertrophied disregard for other cultures with greedy and often misappropriation of their achievements. They don't even bother creating a positive matrix to promote their positive self. Maybe because there is simply no such entity? A parasite nation, silently, like mold, crawling into every crevice to multiply and dominate there. This behavioral style is repulsive. The strong must be kind. Otherwise it will be hated by everyone.
  • Logic
    Logic 23 October 2020 17: 34
    0
    What insanity "Voennoye Obozreniye" has, it's just that the ENEMIES of Russia - the defenders of Konchit Wurst - sleep and see how to embroil Russia with China.
  • nnz226
    nnz226 25 October 2020 19: 17
    0
    And what prevents Russia from borrowing from the governments of the surrounding Bantustans for their debts for their minerals ?! Socialist China does not write off debts, but we are something very good!
  • tanyurg56
    tanyurg56 2 November 2020 10: 46
    0
    Eastern pragmatism, that's okay. A priori, foreign policy should be as tough as China demonstrates with its growing economy. Syushyukanye and feeds the so-called "partners", as exemplified by the Russian politeness, does not lead to anything good.
  • Woland
    Woland 28 November 2020 20: 14
    0
    Всё верно, с китайцами в работоспособности не тягаться. Но надо видеть и другое-если государство не хочет быть поглощённым при помощи такой вот "мягкой силы", оно должно думать в первую (и в последнюю) голову о СВОЁМ народе и не поддаваться соблазну завозить таких вот роботов. В противном случае-конец неизбежен