Turkey offered Kazakhstan a combat wheeled vehicle "Arma" 8X8

The Armed Forces of Kazakhstan in the future may be armed with the Turkish armored wheeled vehicle "Arma". According to the Kazakh military department, the Turkish company "Otokar" has offered an armored car of its own production for experimental military operation.

As stated in the message of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan, specialists and servicemen of the armed forces got acquainted with the combat capabilities of the "Arma" wheeled combat vehicle (BKM).

According to the developer, the Arma 8x8 BKM has high mobility, maneuverability and a sufficient level of ballistic and mine protection that meets NATO standards. BKM has the ability to swim through water bodies at a speed of up to 8 km / h. The design allows the vehicle to be adapted for various tasks by installing various combat modules with weapons ranging from machine guns of 7,62 mm caliber to 105 mm guns.

For testing, the Turkish company offers BKM in the following modifications: a fire support vehicle, a reconnaissance vehicle with the installation of equipment at the request of the customer, a command and staff vehicle, as well as engineering, sanitary, evacuation and amphibious options.

The Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan notes that the initial tests of the Arma BMV were carried out in March this year at a training ground in the Karaganda region during the day and at night, overcoming typical obstacles, as well as snow cover with a depth of 30 to 65 cm. Fire tests were also carried out. The tests carried out have shown full compliance with the BKM declared characteristics.

At present, the Otokar company, free of charge, provides a combat vehicle with a combat module installed at the request of the customer for experimental military operation.

Comments

[V1er]

Why don't we provide Kazakhstan with an export version of Boomerang?

[fedorina maria]

Let's propose the famous s-300. They work very well as targets.

But seriously, the conflict in Karabakh destroyed the CSTO. Completely. And countries should rely only on themselves and on real allies. Russia is not an ally. Everybody sees it. If you don't like the Pashinyans, then exclude Armenia from this union. If not excluded, then fulfill the obligations.

[Thrifty]

Fedorinamaria - you don’t tell Russia what to do and how. For a start, you would think that by destroying Karabakh you will receive only hatred, and you will never see peace with your neighbors.

[fedorina maria]

I am not destroying Karabakh. I live in Russia and I am Russian. This is the first thing. Second, Turkey is a NATO country, and Erdogan can change his shoes on the go calmly and without a twinge of conscience. And the Iranian factor will play a very important role when Russia is squeezed from both sides.

[mitroha]

Fedorina Maria, in combination with the phrase “I am Russian,” suggests either poor schooling or not entirely traditional sexual orientation.

[DAQ]

Calm down. This is a fat troll. I decided to throw a kakul into the fan with the words: let it be shit.

[the Saint]

This fat troll woman still does not believe in the superiority of Russian weapons over Turkish ones! Even the incessant victories of Haftar, Armenians and Assad failed to convince her.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: Maria Fedorina

I am not destroying Karabakh. I live in Russia and I am Russian. This is the first thing. Second, Turkey is a NATO country, and Erdogan can change his shoes on the go calmly and without a twinge of conscience. And the Iranian factor will play a very important role when Russia is squeezed from both sides.

Where are you going with your training manuals? You can't learn basic information from the interlocutor .. (Free advice) Like you, you need to do stuffing and not even think about the dialogues on this site, not that level. Scatter.

[A009]

I can ask you (in the masculine gender) fedorina maria (with a small letter otchegoto) what does Karabakh have to do with the CSTO? As far as I remember, he is not a member of this organization. Nobody attacked Armenia. There is no martial law. Moreover, let me remind you that even Armenia did not recognize Karabakh, the more demanding this from Russia is not the height of hypocrisy?

[fedorina maria]

Yeah. Did the dot complexes explode on the territory of Armenia?

[the Saint]

Fool protection did not work. The Armenians hid barbecues from the rain under the S-300 and Iskander-E complexes.

[Thrifty]

Fedorinamaria - so you are Russian, or Russian, for Maria is a woman's name! And you write that you are a man! And how much you need to hate yourself to write your first and last name with a small letter! !!

[Polymer]

"The daughter of an officer." True, the gender is really not clear. Most likely neuter.

[the Saint]

I admire the famous barracks humor.

[Cottodraton]

There are so many of you "Russians living in Russia" that there are not enough accounts already. Officer daughters

[the Saint]

And how many non-Russians and nationalities have lived in the Russian State since tsarist times!

[the Saint]

Grandfather himself will squeeze whom or what he wants: from pensions and salaries of the rabble to Roldugin's fees and compensation to Sechin or Miller.

[7,62x54]

Today Pashinyan is there, tomorrow he is not. Why exclude the country?

[Observer2014]

Quote: Maria Fedorina

Let's propose the famous s-300. They work very well as targets.

But seriously, the conflict in Karabakh destroyed the CSTO. Completely. And countries should rely only on themselves and on real allies. Russia is not an ally. Everybody sees it. If you don't like the Pashinyans, then exclude Armenia from this union. If not excluded, then fulfill the obligations.

Well done. Shamed, shamed. Go change your nickname.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Observer2014

Well done. Shamed, shamed. Go change your nickname.

Maria, this is his last name, and his name is Fedorin. Fedorina is a hefty size Fedor, that is Fedor.

[the Saint]

This is Margarita Simonyan, and her name is Tigran Keosayan

[the Saint]

And what were you afraid of? Since the time of the downed Peshkov, we have been threatening to slap the Turks on the board. Approximately, as at one time (even before the payment of tribute), the Chechens - two regiments of the Airborne Forces and in a week.

[avebersek]

With what fright? Was there an attack on a CSTO member country? Did not have. About -300, well, here Big questions to the parties to the conflict. about disguise. Serious disguise, not just branches and masks. throw nets.

[Berkut752]

Fedorinamarina, go, your cabbage soup has turned sour.

[Doccor18]

Why don't we provide Kazakhstan with an export version of Boomerang?

I don't know why the cons are flying for you ..
Kazakhs and Cobra preferred our Tigers and Wolves. In 2012 we signed an agreement.
In what way does the Cobra surpass the Russian Tiger, and even more so the Wolf? Yes, she is inferior to them. But the government of the newly independent countries is demonstrating their independence so zealously that even their pants are cracking.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Doccor18

In what way does the Cobra surpass the Russian Tiger, and even more so the Wolf?

In mine protection. The Tiger has sadness with this, at the level of an armored UAZ.

[FIR FIR]

The Tiger has sadness with this, at the level of an armored UAZ.

If the topic is interesting, you can read it. Initially, the developers of the Tiger were not tasked with having high-class mine protection. And when they developed the project, tested the car, they pointed out the insufficient capabilities of mine protection ........
A design engineer is an artist, what he ordered, he will try to do it. The Soviet design school is the strongest in the world !!! Do you think that a light armored vehicle is more difficult to design than a main battle tank? And in tank building, our designers from the 40s of the 20th century to this day are AHEAD OF THE PLANET ALL!

[Polymer]

Quote: FIR FIR

A design engineer is an artist

1000 500 no 3000 500 exclamation marks. A design engineer develops products in accordance with the terms of reference, but he must also offer his own solutions to problems, otherwise he is not even an "artist", but simply a "draftsman". The Soviet school taught this.

[Doccor18]

MRAP has proven to be very expensive to operate.
But ... will our country, which created the best tank, the first to create an infantry fighting vehicle, which raised the capabilities of the Airborne Forces to a level unattainable for others (even today), will be able to create a modern BRM or armored personnel carrier? Of course it can, but you need the desire of those in power ...

[cmax]

Quote: Doccor18

MRAP has proven to be very expensive to operate.
But ... will our country, which created the best tank, the first to create an infantry fighting vehicle, which raised the capabilities of the Airborne Forces to a level unattainable for others (even today), will be able to create a modern BRM or armored personnel carrier? Of course it can, but you need the desire of those in power ...

Desire is just not there. You're right! Why do they need this, they have everything. Yes, and the "elite" have grown old - they would have the sea, yachts, wine from Massandra's cellars, and take the dogs to the hairdresser in Switzerland.

[Doccor18]

I'm terribly sorry, but you're right.

[venik]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

In mine protection. The Tiger has sadness with this, at the level of an armored UAZ.

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Is it straight and "at the level of an armored UAZ"? Think WHAT you write!
About "mine" protection - do you have data WHAT STANAG protection class does it have? I do not have! However, with dimensions similar to the BTR-82, it weighs only 3 tons more (and 3.5 tons less than the Typhoon). Therefore, I strongly doubt that mine resistance there is already of a very high class!

[Doccor18]

"The army Tiger has protection in accordance with GOST only 3 classes and it was made in contrast to the Hummer for money and under the order of the Emirates. The car was developed by a group of GAZ designers under the leadership of A.G. Masyagin using the experience of operating Hummer off-road vehicles in the UAE army. a special vehicle "Tiger" (GAZ-2975). During the design process, the problem of unification of the vehicle with the BTR-80 and the armored vehicle GAZ-39371 "Vodnik" was solved. In 2000, prototypes of cars and documentation were transferred to the customer - the Bin Jaber company Group (UAE). Using these prototypes, the AR-17 Nimr car was later created in the UAE together with Renault. Several prototypes of the Tiger car were first demonstrated in Russia at a demonstration of equipment at the TsNII-21 training ground of the Russian Ministry of Defense in Bronnitsy in August 2002. "
Car AR-17 Nimr, United Arab Emirates (Suvorov S. The majestic tread of the "Tiger". // Equipment and weapons. No. 5/2009).

Sources:
Vasiliev D. Arzamas Machine Building Plant. // Arms export. AST Center. November-December 2008
Military industrial company. Website http://www.milindcom.ru/, 2010-2011
Documentation about the auction No. 283-2009а. M., Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, 2009

[cmax]

Quote: V1er

Why don't we provide Kazakhstan with an export version of Boomerang?

Maybe in 4 years they will finish it, but 2024 can be offered!

[Grandfather]

for nothing and I would take .. and what? Another thing is that the Turks want to "probe" the chariot in severe climatic conditions, in Kazakhstan, there are places where the weather is cooler than in Siberia or the Urals.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Dead Day

the Turks want to "test" the chariot in severe climatic conditions, in Kazakhstan,

Yes, fuel and testers are free, and the report will be qualified. If it comes to sales, there will be a nice bonus.

[Bagatur]

Boomerang is not in the Russian army ... He is only a prototype, no series.

[the Saint]

But Armata is there? And the Su-57 must be, since they wrote that it crashed.

[Thrifty]

And what can we offer similar to the Kazakhs? After all, this is the arms market, we will remain silent and will not react now - we will lose it completely.

[stalki]

And what can we offer similar to the Kazakhs? After all, this is the arms market, we will remain silent and will not react now - we will lose it completely.

Even if we offer it, they most likely will not take it, otherwise Erdogash will be offended.

[donavi49]

Nothing, well, only BTR-82A, but no one takes it.

The Kazakhs had Barys - South African Mbombe. Now we have chosen the entire purchased volume of the assembly and apparently decided to look for something else interesting.

[Zaurbek]

And why is he not interesting? Change modules .....

[Aaron Zawi]

The car is clearly not heavy. Otherwise, it would not have the ability to independently overcome water obstacles.

[Incvizitor]

Turkish Heavy doesn't look like a huge jar with a birdhouse at all.

[venik]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

The car is clearly not heavy. Otherwise, it would not have the ability to independently overcome water obstacles.

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18.5 tons.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Thrifty

And what can we offer similar to the Kazakhs?

The Kazakhs can be offered the same as the Turks offer them - a couple of villas in Antalya to the right people and any contract will be yours. And if not for the tough position of China, the Sorovites have long turned Kazakhstan into Ukraine.

[Kasym]

What does Beijing have to do with it? Sometimes you surprise me - you are carrying nonsense. I was in Ukraine in 13g. and I own info ..
You seem to live in the RK and are well aware that we have policemen. a country. We will roll any demonstration into the asphalt.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Kasym

What does Beijing have to do with it?

Given that Nazarbayev is periodically treated there. So draw your conclusions.

[Zaurbek]

Beijing has a bunch of such infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers ...

[Kasym]

You can say (write) whatever you want. You're not right.

[the Saint]

Kazakhs can be offered territory and money.

[frizzy]

I just take it for hunting and fishing !!!

[Zaurbek]

KZ had a project with South Africa for 4x4 and 8x8 cars and assembling them on site ... and even then it is idle.

[the Saint]

Russia had a project with France.
Russia and France will create a new armored vehicle in a year and a half. This was stated by Igor Sevastyanov, Deputy Director of Rosoboronexport.

Oh, it was even before our Crimea, with a dollar for 27 rubles :(

[Zaurbek]

Unlike the Russian Federation (which could have done the same), KZ bought and produced such cars ... and South African cars have an important + ... they are made on the basis of commercial components. In addition to armor and weapons. That for the CIS countries (once every time the dictatorship expects sanctions) is a huge plus.

[Runway]

The car was "rolled" apparently at the Spassky Training Center (spetsura). Promising doesn't mean getting married.

[venik]

The Kazakhstani arms market is not the most capacious. And nevertheless it is already diligently "spud" and South Africa-sheep and Turks and Chinese are trying to get in ...
Conclusion: you cannot "clap your ears", hoping that Kazakhstan is the traditional fiefdom of our gunsmiths, and in general brotherly country! Kazakhstan is "moving away" more and more!

[Doccor18]

The Kazakhstani arms market is not the most capacious. And nevertheless it is already diligently "spud" and South Africa-sheep and Turks and Chinese are trying to get in ...
Conclusion: you can't "clap your ears"

You are absolutely right.
The market is not capacious, but there is no need to hop with your ears. After the cutting of the USSR, the Kazakhs got a great inheritance, in the form of subsoil, in which more than 90 elements of the periodic table can be mined with a decent market profit ...
But how easy it is to give up sales markets for which other states can wage wars ...

[Danila46]

It is also necessary for Israel to pour into this batch with the sale with its "Eitan", so as to completely puzzle the Kazakhs ...

[askort154]

As recently as yesterday (16.10.2020/1994/XNUMX), the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Shoigu arrived on an official visit to Kazakhstan. An "updated" agreement on military cooperation between Russia and Kazakhstan was signed. The previous agreement was concluded in XNUMX.
(Shoigu's first words from the doorway - are you stunned! What the fuck is a Turkish "Arma"! )

[fedorina maria]

And what are the agreements with Russia worth? Paperwork

[Doccor18]

Shoigu's first words from the doorway - are you stunned! What the fuck is a Turkish "Arma"! )

Were you there?
Well, then we expect from Kazakhstan in the near future firm contracts for armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles of domestic production.

[askort154]

Doccor18 Were you there?

Not ! This is my deduction!

[Alien From]

Under the guise of trying to seize our markets, businessman Erdogan was grasping.

[Brturin]

Quote: Alien From

Under the guise of trying to capture our markets

They are not alone trying, so what will happen in the end ... but while Erdogan is losing other markets - the same boycott of Turkish in Saudi Arabia, which is gaining momentum ...

[Nychego]

An attempt to aggressively monetize the acquired image of a "country producing weapons of victory."
It can be successful only if their weapons continue to win, and ours does not ensure victory for those who chose it.

[Graz]

why do they need this armored personnel carrier, the Kazakhs have their own development

[Old26]

Quote: Maria Fedorina

Let's propose the famous s-300. They work very well as targets.

But seriously, the conflict in Karabakh destroyed the CSTO. Completely. And countries should rely only on themselves and on real allies. Russia is not an ally. Everybody sees it. If you don't like the Pashinyans, then exclude Armenia from this union. If not excluded, then fulfill the obligations.

For a change, the treaty would be read before writing. Otherwise, we always like to speculate about how someone violates the agreement without reading it. Like a classic phrase. "I have not read the book, but I know that it is anti-Soviet." There was no attack on the CSTO member. A former member of the CSTO is at war with an unrecognized state entity. War with Armenia - no. Although everyone understands perfectly well, "we say Karabakh - we mean Armenia". Otherwise, where did the Karabakh Defense Army suddenly become the owner of the Elbrus missile systems, which of the three Transcaucasian states only Armenia possesses?
Nobody attacks Armenia, which means there is no reason to enact the provisions of the CSTO treaty ...
This has already been discussed 500 times. And the CSTO is not going anywhere. And rely on your strength - you wrote it absolutely correctly. Let each of the participants hope for their own strength ...

[Tests]

Vita VKO (Vitaly), dear, business in Kazakhstan reacts quickly to our proposals. Kazakhs in the Russian Federation have been washing gold for several years. And since yesterday or the day before yesterday, they are the only ones who will be on the White Sea in the Murmansk region, not far from Kandalaksha, to revive the Vitino port. In addition to the restoration of the oil terminal, the Kazakhs plan to build a terminal for loading mineral fertilizers on ships (Cherepovets is not far away). But the Russian company from St. Petersburg completely withdrew from the project to revive the port.

[Oquzyurd]

Tuk has a lot of wheeled vehicles, choose what your soul desires.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhBpm4O-xNM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeLqUqBvuxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIi87Op7PCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8J8iPtUhWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML0cTsPwZas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV0o0gs67Tw

[avebersek]

Judging by the photo, a tall, big goal.

[Gunther]

an undersultan climbs into Central Asia without soap, I'm waiting for a response from China