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Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: in case of full-scale aggression, Russia will receive a stream of coffins

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Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: in case of full-scale aggression, Russia will receive a stream of coffins

It is not a problem for Russia to launch a full-scale aggression against Ukraine, but huge losses of personnel of the Russian army in the Donbass will undermine the situation in the country, as it was during the war in Chechnya. The Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC), General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergei Krivonos spoke about this on the air of "Observer".


The Ukrainian general admitted that the military-technical potential of Russia significantly exceeds the Ukrainian one, and the number of military personnel and equipment is much larger than in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but in the event of an invasion of Ukraine, the question of quantitative and qualitative correlation will not arise. According to him, the Ukrainian army has "excellent combat experience", which it received during the six and a half years of the war. In addition, the Ukrainian army, in contrast to the Russian, has motivated servicemen.

It is not a problem for Russians to mentally start a full-scale aggression against our country. But they understand that the huge amount of losses that their armed forces will receive is a stream of coffins that will go to the Russian Federation. Let's remember 1994-96. What then destabilized the situation in the Russian Federation? Chechen War. Hundreds and thousands of corpses of Russian soldiers who were brought home then shook the situation very much. And they understand the threat of this

- stressed Krivonos.


The general is convinced that Russia will not invade Ukraine, but will make it so that the Ukrainians themselves destabilize the situation in the country.

At the same time, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine warned that back in February 2020, Russia had tripled its military potential on the border with Ukraine and was fully prepared for an invasion.
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 16 October 2020 10: 21
    33
    The Debaltsev experience will definitely come in handy for them, how not to get a bullet in the ass.
    1. frruc
      frruc 16 October 2020 10: 31
      11
      It came in handy, but did not work.
    2. WILL
      WILL 16 October 2020 10: 32
      34
      I really liked the opus that in the Ukrainian army, unlike the Russian, motivated servicemen serve ... laughing if the desire to loot and nightmare civilians is considered "motivation" then I completely agree. In general, to teach a fool is only to torture!
      Where do these come from? request
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 16 October 2020 10: 41
        25
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Where do these come from?

        Cultivated in the course of careful selection throughout the entire period of the so-called "nezalezhnosti".
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 16 October 2020 12: 10
          +6
          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Where do these come from?

          Cultivated in the course of careful selection throughout the entire period of the so-called "nezalezhnosti".

          Nooo, this one of those who changed shoes on the fly! He was 50 years old, was a pioneer, a Komsomol member, he probably joined the Communist Party when he entered the Frunze Kiev Higher Combined Arms Command School named after Frunze, this is now a new trend for them! They all rip their shirt off
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 16 October 2020 12: 13
            +4
            Quote: APASUS
            Nooo, this one of those who changed shoes on the fly!


            30 years "Square flight", isn't it time for such a change of shoes?
            1. Machito
              Machito 17 October 2020 11: 52
              +1
              Most likely, in the event of a full-scale armed conflict, the highly motivated Nazis of the Ukrovermacht will smear their heels with lard and run to Poland so as not to be taken prisoners of war in Kolyma. The Ukrainian Wehrmacht has no chance against the Union State. I can imagine what kind of hack between the Nazis will be at airports for seats on the plane, more abruptly than the Germans in the Nursery near Stalingrad. Strategically, the whole of Ukraine is in a huge cauldron with an open lid, which can be slammed shut in a couple of days: Crimea raises it from the south, the LDNR and Russia in the east, Belarus from the north, and Transnistria from the south-west. For communication with the West, Ukraine remains a corridor between Transnistria and Belarus. Russia can land a landing in Odessa, where it will be greeted with flowers, then ride across Transnistria and travel along the Carpathians to meet a mechanized group advancing from the north from Belarus. And that's all, all of Ukraine is in the pot.
        2. Serg koma
          Serg koma 17 October 2020 10: 17
          0
          Quote: Insurgent
          Cultivated in the course of careful selection throughout the entire period of the so-called "nezalezhnosti".

          And from the "people's artists" (clowns?) Are national heroes - General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergey Krivonos

          Order "People's Hero of Ukraine" - Ukrainian non-state award, established in 2015 on the initiative collector of antiques and volunteer Andrey Boechko and jeweler Dmitry Shcherbakov.
          The award is made in two modifications: red and black tape on the block; yellow-blue tape on the shoe.
      2. venik
        venik 16 October 2020 11: 03
        +8
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Where do these come from?

        ========
        I can't understand either! As you listen to Ukrainian politicians or the military ... so it immediately comes to mind:
        1. WILL
          WILL 16 October 2020 11: 22
          14
          Explained perfectly laughing
          Yes, I would like to add, the "motivation" of Ukrainian soldiers - the whole world watched in 2014 in Crimea! Faced with the "unmotivated" Russian Army and Navy, the "motivated" Ukrainians, abandoning their weapons, hurried to get out of the Crimea as soon as possible (just not to get people from the unmotivated) wink
          1. vladimirvn
            vladimirvn 16 October 2020 18: 52
            +2
            Motivated Ukrainian soldiers en masse entered service in the Russian army, in Crimea in 2014. And they will also move motivated anywhere where they are paid more
      3. VO3A
        VO3A 16 October 2020 11: 08
        10
        In a poor country with total unemployment, homeless people, the unemployed, the sick and people who are simply backward in development voluntarily go to this army for free money and benefits, which the Jews have knocked out for themselves ... The ukroarmy ended in 1998-1999 after the successful failure of a new military pension reform. Since 1995, the military schools of Banderlogia have turned into correctional institutions for idiots. Now some of these warriors make up the top commanding staff of this near-army ... The naivete and stupidity of people who send their children to this "zoo" and a feeding trough for their superiors is surprising!
        1. sustav75
          sustav75 16 October 2020 11: 26
          -15 qualifying.
          Even a homeless person and unemployed trained by American military specialists, of whom there are innumerable amounts in Ukraine, plus amerovskoe weapons, plus new weapon systems developed by the Ukrainian industry! Only naive uryakals can fail to understand the full danger of this problem for Russia.
          1. VO3A
            VO3A 16 October 2020 11: 33
            +6
            And the pi_ndosy evaluate the ukrovoi people in a different way ... I have no opportunity to repeat this assessment within the framework of the forum rules ... And apart from 4 regions, the inhabitants of Ukraine with flowers will meet the Russian troops with a small exception ... The essence of the problem is in external influence and management, and bribe money ...
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 16 October 2020 12: 38
              +3
              Quote: VO3A
              And besides 4 regions, the inhabitants of Ukraine with flowers will meet the Russian troops with a few exceptions ...

              By the time the Russian troops appear in Ukraine, these four regions will not be part of Ukraine. They will be in Poland. So we won't have to hang anyone on poles - by that time the Poles won't know how to push them out of Poland back.
              1. siemens7774
                siemens7774 17 October 2020 22: 03
                +1
                Zoldat_A. In Poland, squads for the destruction of Ukrainians have been created. They will immediately destroy outstanding jumpers in four regions in two or three months. They have a full list of gifted people. So nothing good will shine for them.
          2. KCA
            KCA 16 October 2020 11: 34
            0
            The Syrian experience will be used to the full, how will American weapons help against the Kh-101, Caliber, Iskander? From Dzhevelins according to TU-95MS "Fire!" Well, after ironing it out with cast iron
            1. VO3A
              VO3A 16 October 2020 11: 56
              -4
              How can the experience of the war against the guerrillas be used in modern warfare? Stop repeating the stupidity of stupid people. Everyone knows that the 1st two main phases of hostilities in modern war are associated with the Air Force (VKS) and air defense of the parties to the conflict ...
              1. KCA
                KCA 16 October 2020 12: 01
                0
                So what am I talking about? Missile strikes against air defense, remaining airfields from 1,5 aircraft and on command posts, after a bombing raid
                1. VO3A
                  VO3A 16 October 2020 12: 06
                  +5
                  Ukraine does not need to be defeated, it needs to be returned. Ordinary people in Russia should live 10 times better, already yesterday. To do this, you need to stop the theft and sale of the country by some ... And then everything, and not only Ukraine, will return back, or rather, it will turn around ... As long as Russia lives worse than Europe, this is not possible ...
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 16 October 2020 12: 50
                    +5
                    Quote: VO3A
                    To do this, you need to stop the theft and sale of the country by some ...

                    What will it change? Everything has already been sold. And "the right to property is sacred" in accordance with Western "values."

                    Look at us. How much was sold for a penny in the 90s? Who was stopped, who was asked the question?
                    One small example - a western beer company is closing a brewery in Siberia that it bought in the 90s, which has been in operation for over 100 years. Throws people out into the street, stops production, the wind walks in the shops. And everything is simple - they bought it not for the sake of expanding production, but for the sake of clearing the sales market for their "canned food", which they jokingly call "beer". what does this company have to do with the construction and more than a century of operation of this plant? Bought in the 90s at the price of a brick fight ...
                    And there are such examples in every city where we had a more or less important production. From beer and candy to machines and planes. Who stopped? They won't stop there either. And they will stop - it's already late, sold.
                    Although, of course, selling land for export is "five" .... good Ours haven’t figured it out yet.
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 16 October 2020 11: 48
            +2
            How will they help them from missile bombing and artillery strikes - VKS OTRK and MLRS within a few hours will cover the entire Ukrainian grouping in Donbass and all military facilities on the territory of Ukraine, initially destroying all air defense.
          4. frruc
            frruc 16 October 2020 14: 52
            0
            Yes, you can expect everything from hicks. In addition, a monkey with a stick in his hands also looks menacing. am
          5. Mikhail Alexandrov
            Mikhail Alexandrov 16 October 2020 18: 10
            +5
            rodents, the same mattress instructors "taught" ..., the result?
        2. Looking for
          Looking for 16 October 2020 15: 44
          +1
          but because the overwhelming majority of ukrovoyak thinksay.protirat pants in dugouts for months, this is a "real" war with Russia.
      4. lucul
        lucul 16 October 2020 11: 18
        +4
        Where do these come from?

        Well, how from where? From the Valley of the Dead Sea ...
      5. svp67
        svp67 16 October 2020 11: 35
        +6
        Quote: ANIMAL
        in the Ukrainian army, unlike the Russian, motivated servicemen serve ...

        And so it is ... There are a lot of old people, whose main motivation is to get a good salary, otherwise the old people will not survive, there are a lot of girls, but there are not so many young men.
        And who did not pay attention to the fact that this "general", like a true fascist, is dressed in a black shirt
      6. major147
        major147 16 October 2020 11: 59
        +3
        Quote: ANIMAL
        I really liked the opus that in the Ukrainian army, unlike the Russian, motivated servicemen serve ...

        This "general" issued another bunch, so necessary for the Svidomo part of the outskirts to receive a "charge of vigor" and nothing more ...
      7. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 16 October 2020 12: 30
        +1
        The desire to procrastinate is not a motivation, but a base instinct. Haneral, however, is a great optimist))) Given the fact that almost all more or less combat-ready ukroSS are "bogged down" in the Donbass, it is completely unclear with what forces he is going to repel the attack)))
      8. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 16 October 2020 17: 50
        +1
        Ukrogeneral Krivonos is not a fool or a bolt. He is a well-trained commander of spetsnaz thugs. He was awarded medals and the Bandera Order "People's Hero of Ukraine". He is an inveterate Banderite and an enemy of Russia, a Russophobe. Was born in Kremenchug, Poltava region.
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 16 October 2020 10: 33
      12
      Quote: marchcat
      The Debaltsev experience will definitely come in handy for them, how not to get a bullet in the ass.

      Ilovaisk experience on the contrary, he taught them how to get a bullet in the ass ...

      Semyon Semenchenko got a well-deserved bullet in the ass near Ilovaisk, but nothing has changed in his head No. .
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 16 October 2020 10: 39
        +4
        It's just that his whole brain has accumulated in the other hemisphere.
      2. venik
        venik 16 October 2020 11: 11
        +5
        Quote: Insurgent
        The Ilovaisky experience, on the contrary, taught them how to get a bullet in the ass ...

        Semyon Semenchenko received a well-deserved bullet in the ass near Ilovaisk, but nothing has changed in his head no ..

        ========
        good drinks
        And unless this Semenchenko understands, "WHERE is the head, and WHERE backside? ". request
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 16 October 2020 11: 26
          +4
          I believe they were aiming at the part of the body where they considered the presence of a brain most likely.
          1. venik
            venik 16 October 2020 11: 34
            +4
            Quote: Pereira
            I believe they were aiming at the part of the body where they considered the presence of a brain most likely.

            ====
            good drinks
            Oh, he wore a helmet in the wrong place! lol
    4. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 16 October 2020 10: 48
      +2
      It is not a problem for Russians to mentally start a full-scale aggression against our country.
      Dream, dream ...
      Apparently, this clever man and "specialist in mentality" does not understand that for more coffins, and the answer will be more ambitious and harsh.
      Another thing is that at least it makes no sense if Ukrainians themselves are quite happy with this state of affairs.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 16 October 2020 10: 53
        +4
        Lord, what a de B and l .. But it is nevertheless good when such destinies are decided in "vna." ...
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 16 October 2020 11: 11
          +4
          Quote: 210ox
          Lord, what a de B and l .. But nevertheless it is good when such destinies are decided in "vna."

          Somewhere he is right. Tens of thousands of coffins of riders after the strike of the Aerospace Forces may end up in the liberated territory. What for they are to us. Let them figure it out ... With their Bandera. When they start - we will help ... politely.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 16 October 2020 12: 31
        +1
        Mentality is a newfangled, gayrope word. Prez Zelya, during a visit to London, blotted it out everywhere)))
    5. Maz
      Maz 16 October 2020 15: 58
      +1
      Why do we need so many Sumerian coffins?
    6. Terenin
      Terenin 16 October 2020 17: 59
      +3
      Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: in case of full-scale aggression, Russia will receive a stream of coffins
      but, you will definitely not see them and you will not hear the story about them, even through your photo on the tombstone.
  2. comradChe
    comradChe 16 October 2020 10: 22
    -17 qualifying.
    Russia in any case will receive a stream of coffins. It was necessary to forge the iron while it was hot in 2014, BUT not with this supreme.
    1. frruc
      frruc 16 October 2020 10: 35
      +7
      ...... that the huge amount of casualties their armed forces will take is a flood of coffins that will go to the Russian Federation. Let's remember 1994-96.

      Let's remember and remember. I hope the ukronaemniki will be punished in full.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 16 October 2020 10: 46
      +1
      do not screw nonsense. it hurts. that in '14 that now it would all be a stupidly bloody adventure. 40 million countries are not conquered with little blood. Was it necessary to collect a half-million group there? and after it enter the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the National Guard there so that the rear would be cleaned? create commandant's offices. supply the population with everything necessary. to strengthen counterintelligence and also to throw there. build filtration camps and they also need to be protected and provided. then the Ministry of Emergencies. further explain what will happen? the rupture of all relations in general, including economic in the world. the opposition of the states and their mongrels who would have driven weapons there and not only. most likely a naval blockade after. after that we would not have regained consciousness. and all this is still flowers before what happened after. ranging from terrorist attacks across the country and ending with outright sabotage. all this can only be done by the Supreme without any brains.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 16 October 2020 12: 34
        +3
        Where do you see a 40 million country? It’s good there if you have 30 million. In 2014, residents of the Southeast would look at Russia as a liberator from the putschists. And now many people think so.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 16 October 2020 12: 36
          0
          yes, no matter how they looked. the result would still be deplorable. in all cases, it was impossible to climb into this trap with feet. just be careful . this is their country and they figure out how to live. our business is to support those who are closer to us and not to get involved in a full-scale war.
          1. ancient
            ancient 16 October 2020 13: 08
            +2
            Quote: carstorm 11
            yes, no matter how they looked. the result would still be deplorable. in all cases, it was impossible to climb into this trap with feet. just be careful

            So we got on top of it ...... HPP is at the forefront and the result ... instead of the territories of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, it turned out ... reservations ... shot through and ... a lot of dead ... how can you be so careful ... and we are "worn out" at all corners and for any reason am
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 16 October 2020 13: 31
              0
              this is their country. their life. they need to help. for them to do definitely not. and the borders of the regions could only be reached in one case — the invasion. full blown. and not quickly transfer BTG to certain areas. you understand. take this one. to hold these boundaries with what forces? in 14 year such forces were not there from the word at all. which means only our formations of regular troops.
      2. ancient
        ancient 16 October 2020 13: 05
        +3
        Quote: carstorm 11
        do not screw nonsense. it hurts. that in '14 that now it would all be a stupidly bloody adventure. 40 million countries are not conquered with little blood.

        As you say .... "don't talk nonsense ... she's in pain" wink .. now in order:
        - forget about 40 million ... because no one will deal with the occupation there.
        -. Forgotten Georgia 080808 ... if not for .... fool (this is the mildest definition) of our "high command", then those minor losses that we would have suffered would have been minimized.
        One redeployment of the 58th Army was worth what ... ". To cut off" could have been if it hadn't been so sad.
        Quote: carstorm 11
        the rupture of all relations in general, including economic ones in the world. the opposition of the states and their mongrels who would have driven weapons there and not only. most likely a naval blockade after. after that we would not have regained consciousness. and all this is still flowers before what happened after. ranging from terrorist attacks across the country and ending with outright sabotage. all this can only be done by the Supreme without any brains.

        But this is sheer nonsense, everything should be done very simply - recognition of independence, the conclusion of an agreement on mutual assistance, including military ... the introduction of troops on an ongoing basis and ... everything ... dill in ... it is clear in what place.
        Georgia was smeared, that ... the world turned upside down in relation to us? Where are the breaks in economic relations ... where are the naval blockades and everything..your .. "condolences"? (sorry for the harshness).
        And now, at this time, the issue is being solved VERY simply - 404 is recognized as a terrorist state (facts and precedents .. a car and a small cart up to genocide), the gap is deep. relations ... a complete cessation of any "economic" cooperation, the blockade of "dill" in the Black and Azov seas, and that's all .. in a month the dill is dead wassat
        Quote: carstorm 11
        all this can only be done by the Supreme without any brains.

        Well, of course ... children abroad (children's property as well), friends' "businessmen" in the same place (along with children and household members) ... threatened with a finger and that's all ..... paws to the top.
        That is why we let the presumptuous "barefoot" behave like they .. "want" and we will sit and .. "shovel" from everyone and from everywhere ... because we can only puff out our cheeks and express concern soldier
        PS Once again, I apologize for the harsh tone. drinks
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 16 October 2020 13: 28
          0
          I don't care about the tone. I'm not one of those who prevents people from having their own opinion. everything else, too, forgive me baby talk. states and the British deeply do not care who we recognize as what state. climbing into Ukraine, we would crawl into a grandiose trap. otherwise they would have done what they wanted. and compare with Georgia well, such a thing. the population of this country is less than 4 million people. and we only have a border with Ukraine over 2000 km. everything else I agree. all relations with this country must be severed completely.
          1. ancient
            ancient 16 October 2020 13: 37
            0
            Quote: carstorm 11
            everything else, too, forgive me baby talk. states and the British deeply do not care who we recognize as what state. climbing into Ukraine we would crawl into a grandiose trap

            Strongly disagree .. but everyone remains unconvinced .. pluralism ... "he’s in his Adam's apple" drinks
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 16 October 2020 13: 49
              +1
              all the scenarios have long been analyzed. and in almost all cases, local victories lead to Pyrrhic. the world needs a big war, but no one wants to start it first. and you propose to take upon yourself this burden.
  3. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 16 October 2020 10: 26
    15
    This experience is only against the civilian population, no one doubts that they have no equal in killing women and children, only that the real army has nothing to oppose to these fascist cowardly dogs and the boilers have proved it.
  4. bober1982
    bober1982 16 October 2020 10: 28
    +6
    Everything is balabolit, it won't stop in any way.
    1. frruc
      frruc 16 October 2020 11: 05
      +5
      filthy general of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergei Krivonos will be one of the first candidates to play in the box.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 16 October 2020 11: 13
        +3
        "Man effectively commanded the defense of an important facility. "
        This, I read about him on the ubiquitous Internet.
        You can laugh out loud.
  5. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 16 October 2020 10: 30
    +3
    In the meantime, the Banderzians "in hundreds / thousands" fertilize the land of Donbass ...
  6. Moskovit
    Moskovit 16 October 2020 10: 31
    14
    In the summer, the Ukrainian Armed Forces conducted a large-scale exercise "Strawberry 2020" with their Polish colleagues. At the same time, Ukrainian soldiers mastered the latest weapons of NATO countries - Erzhik and Vantuz. The women's units worked out interaction with European logisticians along all the main highways of central and southern Europe.
    A separate reconnaissance battalion named after Verki Serdyuchka is firmly settled on the approaches to the most important Russian airport Sheremetyevo. On a signal from Kiev, he is ready to raise the prices for his services and thereby paralyze the intimate life of Russian truckers.
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 16 October 2020 10: 32
    +7
    With a full-scale Russian aggression against Ukraine, it is unlikely that the troops will go in one direction through equipped defensive positions (and even in this case, Ukraine does not have aviation). And it is unlikely that Ukraine will have enough strength to make defensive positions in all directions ... And they are unlikely to storm cities.
    1. ancient
      ancient 16 October 2020 10: 38
      +7
      Quote: Zaurbek
      through equipped defensive positions

      If, as you say, our troops go through ... "equipped defensive positions", then by the beginning of the "movement" all these .. positions ... will be ground into dust .. well, like dill on a grater wink
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 16 October 2020 10: 41
        +4
        I wrote .... that they have no aviation .... which means air strikes across the entire depth and the artillery will then plow the positions with impunity.
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 16 October 2020 10: 47
        +6
        I think they will first be asked to surrender and 90% of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will surrender. Our Armed Forces will enter and most of the population will greet with flowers. After which the rest will be captured or destroyed, the rest will be condemned by the Rostov tribunal as followers of Nazism and fascism. That's all, the curtain.
        1. maktub
          maktub 16 October 2020 11: 12
          -4
          I'm embarrassed to ask, where is the confidence that they will meet with bread and lard? laughing
          1. Eugen alpine
            Eugen alpine 16 October 2020 11: 29
            +4
            Because the hatred of the Nazis among the Soviet people cannot be eradicated by any fooling. Give free rein - they themselves will hang Bandera on poles. And you understand that, lad.
            1. ancient
              ancient 16 October 2020 12: 48
              0
              Quote: Eugen Alpine
              the Soviet people

              So the fact of the matter is that ... people, in the face of the Soviet people, or already old age, or .. have gone to another world ... and in the country 404 already prevails ... a new formation .. "dill -nationalistic "... unfortunately
        2. ancient
          ancient 16 October 2020 12: 46
          +1
          Quote: neri73-r
          Our Armed Forces will enter and most of the population will greet with flowers.

          In the eastern regions and southern regions I hope good but in the central and western ..... plagued by vague doubts ...... watching TV and wondering .. where did they get so many "pan-headed horses" belay ? .. So there is hardly ... with flowers ... but if you instruct these areas to liberate Donetsk ... then ... you understand soldier
    2. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 16 October 2020 12: 36
      +3
      Are you hinting at the wall of Yaytsenyukh? So everyone there laughs at this grandiose scam. But Akhmetov, it is not clear why he took Senya out of the naphthalene, and he again wants to lead)))
  8. kot423
    kot423 16 October 2020 10: 33
    10
    The brain is an amazing human organ. It has been working since birth until the moment you first said "glory to Ukraine".
    1. ancient
      ancient 16 October 2020 10: 39
      +2
      Quote: kot423
      It has been working since birth until the moment you first said "glory to Ukraine".

      One gets the impression that after birth they are all beaten on the head many times, forcing, even in infancy, to scream the mantra .. "Heroiam ... sala" .. wassat
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 October 2020 11: 07
        +2
        Quote: ancient
        that after birth they are all beaten on the head many times, forcing, even in infancy, to scream

        Or maybe a pregnant mother fell from the stove.
        1. ancient
          ancient 16 October 2020 12: 41
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Or maybe a pregnant mother fell from the stove.

          As an option.... wink
  9. iouris
    iouris 16 October 2020 10: 36
    +4
    Quote: "It is not a problem for Russians to mentally start a full-scale aggression against our country." End of quote.
    Note: Mentally - mentally (Dictionary of Russian synonyms).
    No comment.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 16 October 2020 10: 41
      +4
      I mentally put them in rockets and sent them back to Venus.
      Venus tse Ukraine.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 October 2020 11: 09
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        I mentally put them in rockets and sent them back to Venus.
        Venus tse Ukraine.

        And it is better to go into outer space, so that there is no "fat".
  10. Well done
    Well done 16 October 2020 10: 44
    +6
    It seems that we have been "at war" with them for six years, they say so. But there are still no coffins. What kind of warriors are they?
  11. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 16 October 2020 10: 48
    -1
    From all sides, mongrels of all stripes are yapping, but here they are silent - nothing happens, breathe evenly, everything is fine. There are friends and partners all around - Russia has no opponents, let alone enemies!
    And here, we also remove the sanctions from the Okrug - well, they cannot produce packing cardboard and wheelsets for cars in Russia.
    By their stupid stance on not recognizing Donbass, they drove themselves into a corner then, and earlier in Kosovo, and now in Transcaucasia, they found themselves in a "tight vestibule with one narrow door", having no room for political and diplomatic maneuver. The diplomacy of concessions, friends and partners has not only outlived its usefulness, it has become dangerous for Russia.
  12. Machete
    Machete 16 October 2020 10: 49
    +5
    This comrade heard about aviation, navy and artillery barrage?
    After a massive blow of all this, there will be no one to resist and no one will send hordes of tanks.
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 October 2020 10: 52
    +7
    General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergey Krivonos
    This dick, trying to look like some Middle Eastern general, once again without suspecting it, confirmed that Ukraine is not at war with Russia. And their "courage" and arrogance is increasing every year, Bandera is gaining strength more and more. The silence of Europe, the support of the Anglo-Saxons only adds to the rudeness and impudence towards Russia. It's time to recognize the DLNR.
    1. maktub
      maktub 16 October 2020 11: 07
      -13 qualifying.
      Where infa that "Bandera" is gaining strength? From TV, from Solovyov and Skabeeva? Don't look, don't.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 16 October 2020 11: 10
        +7
        Maybe look at your Ukrainian? Yesterday's torchlight procession of Bandera, including chants against the Jews, does not mean anything? Therefore, it would be better not to touch upon this topic.
        1. maktub
          maktub 16 October 2020 11: 23
          -9
          Thank you, I saw it already. If you saw the procession this year, check out the number of participants in the past.
          Also, if you're interested, check out the support ratings for these parties.
          You are simply misinformed
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 16 October 2020 11: 27
        +5
        Quote: maktub
        Where infa that "Bandera" is gaining strength? From TV, from Solovyov and Skabeeva?

        1. maktub
          maktub 16 October 2020 11: 37
          -6
          You still have a video from the Zvezda channel, download
          A picture is one thing, but real support is quite another.
          Although to whom I explain this, the "staff propagandist" who knows better than me what is what laughing
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 16 October 2020 12: 16
            +2
            Quote: maktub
            A picture is one thing, but real support is quite another.


            Where can we go without real support?

            Here are your marches, Avakov's Arkharovites (policemen) and accompany ...
            1. maktub
              maktub 16 October 2020 15: 32
              -1
              So you don't mind at the expense of a regular propagandist laughing
              Especially for propagandists, I clarify: - they do not enjoy the support of the majority of the population (see social polls) laughing
              1. Insurgent
                Insurgent 16 October 2020 16: 11
                +1
                Quote: maktub
                Especially for propagandists, I clarify: - they do not enjoy the support of the majority of the population (see social polls)

                But at the same time are part и support authorities...
                1. maktub
                  maktub 16 October 2020 16: 41
                  -1
                  They are a tool for the struggle of the previous authorities with the new
                  1. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 16 October 2020 16: 44
                    +2
                    Quote: maktub
                    They are a tool for the struggle of the previous authorities with the new

                    From your tool, soon only the stone ax will remain, and from the "new" one, only holes ...

                    About what "struggle","new and old"are you babbling?
                    1. maktub
                      maktub 16 October 2020 16: 54
                      -4
                      Leave your value judgments for the hooray-patriotic public VO
                      1. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 16 October 2020 17: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: maktub
                        Leave your value judgments for the hooray-patriotic public VO


                        What to judge about you ...

                        Belshazzar, obviously about the Outskirts - "You were weighed on a scale and found very light".
                        (Daniel 5: 1,3,5-6,8,13-14,17,25-31) Prophecy about the future Nebuchadnezzar Outskirts.
  14. sniperino
    sniperino 16 October 2020 10: 58
    +5
    People with a farm mentality are used in Ukraine as blacks in the United States. The alliance of the Negro / Kugut with the liberals / Central Europeans is not strong: the patriarchal consciousness of the former does not fit well with the postmodern consciousness of the latter, therefore such chaos is quite manageable and is suitable for realizing the principle of "divide and rule." Farmers' lives are meaningful.
  15. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 October 2020 11: 00
    +4
    According to him, the Ukrainian army has "excellent combat experience", which it received during the six and a half years of the war. In addition, the Ukrainian army, unlike the Russian one, has motivated military personnel.
    "Excellent combat experience", how to rob and kill civilians.
  16. maktub
    maktub 16 October 2020 11: 01
    -10 qualifying.
    About the army, of course, exaggerations, like any other general
    It is a matter of time for the RF Armed Forces to take Kiev, but then what? Do you think you will be greeted with bread and salt?
    1. iouris
      iouris 16 October 2020 11: 08
      +3
      Quote: maktub
      Do you think you will be greeted with bread and salt?

      Do you have bread and salt? Well, then we fly to you.
      I think the politically active part of the population will just mercilessly strive to get into the new social elevator.
      1. maktub
        maktub 16 October 2020 11: 16
        -8
        I will wait a little longer with the answer, let more such comments accumulate, then I will refute laughing
        1. iouris
          iouris 16 October 2020 11: 35
          +2
          Don't bother, we know everything about you. You would have been won long ago ... Only laziness.
          1. frruc
            frruc 16 October 2020 15: 05
            +1
            Do not be lazy, they are needed in FIG. Don't touch it ... so it doesn't stink.
    2. Dym71
      Dym71 16 October 2020 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: maktub
      It's a matter of time to take Kiev for the RF Armed Forces, and then what?

      belay What time is it? Do we need it for cholera?
      And if this is so, for the catchphrase, then it’s not Kiev, but Stockholm, it’s also blakitny bully
      1. maktub
        maktub 16 October 2020 11: 29
        -5
        Well, your "helmsman" has repeatedly stated that he is a "collector of Russian lands"
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 16 October 2020 11: 37
          +1
          Quote: maktub
          Well, your "helmsman" has repeatedly stated that he is a "collector of Russian lands"

          Since this has happened more than once, I'm sure it won't be difficult for you to quote one of his quotes?
          1. maktub
            maktub 16 October 2020 11: 58
            -2
            If this or that republic became part of the Soviet Union, but received in its baggage a huge amount of Russian lands, traditional Russian historical territories, and then only decided to leave this Union, well, at least then it left with what it came. And I would not drag gifts from the Russian people with me "
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 16 October 2020 12: 21
              +1
              Quote: maktub
              If this or that republic entered ........

              Surprisingly, for some reason you missed the beginning of a quote
              "The question arises: if this or that republic became part of the Soviet Union, ............................... And would not drag gifts from Russian people "

              I wonder why you found the phrase "The question arises" unimportant in this quote, maybe because with it the quote ceases to be a statement? bully
              1. maktub
                maktub 16 October 2020 12: 29
                -2
                Well, we are adult uncles and we understand everything
                1. Dym71
                  Dym71 16 October 2020 12: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: maktub
                  Well, we are adult uncles and we understand everything

                  Nope, you manipulate, taking out of context, like an infantile (not to say worse) Ukrainian agitprop wink
                  1. maktub
                    maktub 16 October 2020 14: 48
                    -1
                    You still preface the quotes
                    Do not smack nonsense
                    1. Dym71
                      Dym71 16 October 2020 15: 05
                      0
                      Quote: maktub
                      Do not smack nonsense

                      Reinforced Concrete Argument for "Adult Uncle" yes
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    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 16 October 2020 11: 28
      +1
      Quote: maktub
      and then what?

      and then evict all the dissatisfied to Galicia, and let them develop self-city nenko
      1. maktub
        maktub 16 October 2020 11: 41
        -5
        You will have to evict a lot, and the GDP is not Stalin, and the Russian Federation is not the USSR, do not pull
  17. Last centurion
    Last centurion 16 October 2020 11: 03
    +2
    They definitely have a lot of experience in prejudicing ... the rest is just another bravado, with full awareness of this speech-prompting that no one is going to attack them because who needs them for nothing. soon the remnants of factories and rusty steamers will be sold, well, black soil, and everything will definitely not be needed for nothing, including this general. it will be a kind of makhno to sit on the farm and puff out his cheeks (well, except that occasionally only collect money from their slaves to pay off loans)
  18. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 16 October 2020 11: 06
    +6
    Hmm, just like in an anecdote, Ukraine suffered territorial, material and human losses, and Russia did not appear in the war!
  19. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 11: 12
    +3
    Quote: Zaurbek
    With a full-scale Russian aggression against Ukraine, it is unlikely that the troops will go in one direction through equipped defensive positions (and even in this case, Ukraine does not have aviation). And it is unlikely that Ukraine will have enough strength to make defensive positions in all directions ... And they are unlikely to storm cities.

    Not aggression, but liberation of Ukraine from Bandera and fascists.
  20. sailor roman
    sailor roman 16 October 2020 11: 18
    +4
    I guarantee, "... in the event of a full-scale Russian aggression against Ukraine ..." at least 50% of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will defect or defect to the side of the enemy, many servicemen would like to do this even now, but fear for their relatives. And after the destruction of command posts, the most zealous managers and commanders, control and communication systems, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will turn into uncontrollable bandits robbing the population and rapidly fleeing to the west.
  21. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 11: 22
    +4
    Quote: maktub
    Do you think you will be greeted with bread and salt?

    Those who do not want to meet with bread and salt will already be dropping out on the Polish border. Investigations into crimes committed in Ukraine did not stop in Russia. Yes, and I think that the Western scum that has come to large numbers in Kiev, the authority will drop sharply, literally at the beginning of the offensive. A similar thing happened during the mass exodus of the ukropatriots from Mariupol.
    1. maktub
      maktub 16 October 2020 11: 56
      -8
      The first channel "Russia. Kremlin. Put
    2. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 16 October 2020 14: 17
      +1
      Quote: Tagan
      Those who do not want to meet with bread and salt will already be dropping out on the Polish border. Investigations into crimes committed in Ukraine did not stop in Russia. Yes, and I think that the Western scum that has come to large numbers in Kiev, the authority will drop sharply, literally at the beginning of the offensive. A similar thing happened during the mass exodus of the ukropatriots from Mariupol.

      I agree here, when the peace was forced on 080808, a traffic jam formed on the border with Armenia))) Here I think it will be the same
  22. beeper
    beeper 16 October 2020 11: 25
    +2
    The general is convinced that Russia will not invade Ukraine, but will make it so that the Ukrainians themselves destabilize the situation in the country.
    fool
    And I am convinced that it is the Kiev "Maidan authorities" who do everything andwill make the Ukrainians themselves destabilize the situation in the country(although the Washington owners of the post-Maidan colony "Ukraine", in contrast to the illiterate "Svidomo" slaves, give it a more realistic, rather than quasi "patriotic" definition -failed state Ukraine!) "! request
  23. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 16 October 2020 11: 26
    +6
    According to him, the Ukrainian army has "excellent combat experience"
    there are gorgeous photos with this experience



  24. Maks1995
    Maks1995 16 October 2020 11: 28
    -4
    And, the next hokhslus ...
    When will they write about Honduras ...
  25. ZVS
    ZVS 16 October 2020 11: 43
    +5
    And with whom should Russia fight? In the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, everyone is either drug addicts or drunks. The APU is not an army, but a rabble of starving gopots.
  26. Alien From
    Alien From 16 October 2020 11: 44
    +2
    Pluck this mug with pissing rags !!
  27. cniza
    cniza 16 October 2020 11: 53
    +1
    The general is convinced that Russia will not invade Ukraine, but will make it so that the Ukrainians themselves destabilize the situation in the country.


    At least he understood what he said, but Russia is definitely not going to invade, if only to rip off your medal under the black and red flag ...
  28. musorg
    musorg 16 October 2020 12: 02
    0
    Do not cast your shadow over the fence! Apparently he was not in the boilers and does not know what it is!
  29. kit88
    kit88 16 October 2020 12: 03
    10
    Chechen War. Hundreds, thousands of corpses of Russian soldiers who were brought home

    Why so little?
    Lie so lie!
    Million!
    No, two million! And heroi lard.
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 16 October 2020 12: 27
      -2
      He said, "hundreds, thousands" and not hundreds of thousands! In the (unskillful) capture of Grozny in the winter of 1995, there were indeed many casualties for the federal forces.
      1. kit88
        kit88 16 October 2020 12: 47
        +7
        N-yes.
        But this does not change the essence of the matter.
  30. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 16 October 2020 12: 14
    -2
    they are fighting not for territory, but for the minds of people. Russia has failed miserably in the war for the minds of Ukrainians. Now he is failing the war for the minds of Russians.
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 16 October 2020 12: 31
      -2
      Putin is weak. Weak as a man. He got into a fight, but realizing that the forces were not the same, and decided to let everything go by itself! This is mistake! Alas! Even Lavrov's pisimism and decadence are already slipping through ...
    2. frruc
      frruc 16 October 2020 14: 59
      -1
      Don't speak for all Russians, dear.
  31. maktub
    maktub 16 October 2020 12: 19
    -5
    Все высказались?А теперь цифры. https://www.google.com.ua/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ratinggroup.ua/ru/research/ukraine/fbb3f3c52d452cdd1646d4a62b69dba5.html&ved=2ahUKEwiQmOSl47jsAhUDxYsKHbE3DB8QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0qR6xwAYLF3eygK7_fTdQ0
    So what about "bread and lard" and "rumbling in the Polish cordon"?laughing
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 16 October 2020 14: 27
      +1
      Quote: maktub
      Все высказались?А теперь цифры. https://www.google.com.ua/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ratinggroup.ua/ru/research/ukraine/fbb3f3c52d452cdd1646d4a62b69dba5.html&ved=2ahUKEwiQmOSl47jsAhUDxYsKHbE3DB8QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0qR6xwAYLF3eygK7_fTdQ0
      So what about "bread and lard" and "rumbling in the Polish cordon"?

      Poll by phone))) My friends and I usually answer such researchers - Go through the forest! Usually those who have nothing to do answer.
      1. maktub
        maktub 16 October 2020 14: 53
        -1
        So your opinion is not taken into account
        1. ZEMCH
          ZEMCH 16 October 2020 15: 16
          +1
          Quote: maktub
          So your opinion is not taken into account

          Not only mine, but also more or less sane people)))
          1. maktub
            maktub 16 October 2020 15: 51
            -1
            What is the sanity, let me ask you?
            In normal countries, people are asked for their opinion on certain issues
  32. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 12: 31
    +2
    Quote: maktub
    If this or that republic became part of the Soviet Union, but received in its baggage a huge amount of Russian lands, traditional Russian historical territories, and then only decided to leave this Union, well, at least then it left with what it came. And I would not drag gifts from the Russian people with me "

    Is he wrong about something?)))
  33. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 12: 37
    +1
    Quote: maktub
    The first channel "Russia. Kremlin. Put

    Yes, even the first, even the tenth. You cannot argue against facts. On YouTube, vidos of the mass exodus from Mariupol along the highway towards Berdyansk are probably still preserved. )))
  34. KreAtiF
    KreAtiF 16 October 2020 12: 43
    +1
    "Motivated UPA" will hold out for 3-4 days at most :)
  35. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 12: 44
    +1
    Quote: maktub
    Все высказались?А теперь цифры. https://www.google.com.ua/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ratinggroup.ua/ru/research/ukraine/fbb3f3c52d452cdd1646d4a62b69dba5.html&ved=2ahUKEwiQmOSl47jsAhUDxYsKHbE3DB8QFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0qR6xwAYLF3eygK7_fTdQ0
    So what about "bread and lard" and "rumbling in the Polish cordon"?laughing

    Like, well, that's your finest hour, right?)))
    You can draw as many numbers as you like.
    Suppose, in the east of Ukraine, your "warriors of Light" are generally simply hated.
    1. maktub
      maktub 16 October 2020 14: 56
      -1
      You open the survey, there is a percentage by region
  36. Piramidon
    Piramidon 16 October 2020 14: 54
    -1
    Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: in case of full-scale aggression, Russia will receive a stream of coffins

    Hello, Krivonos! And until now, hasn't there been a "full-scale aggression" in the form of hordes of Buryat horse divers, armored troops of the FSB and GRU special forces, divisions of the Black Sea marines that landed on the coast of Mariupol ...? And with humanitarian convoys, hordes of hungry Russian soldiers, hungry for Ukrainian bacon, have already penetrated into Donbass. fool laughing
  37. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 15: 53
    0
    Quote: maktub
    You open the survey, there is a percentage by region

    It is enough for me to see who is stamping these percentages. And by the day of the defender of Ukraine, it is all the more not patriotic to voice real data)))
    A lot of people from the Donetsk region studied with us, as the regions border. It’s hard to forget what Bandera's ruffians were doing there. So the mood is known.
    1. maktub
      maktub 16 October 2020 19: 16
      -1
      Rating and KIIS are the most respected agencies that have a reputation
      The rest depends on the owner, his sympathies and the customer of the survey
  38. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 16: 03
    0
    Quote: maktub
    What is the sanity, let me ask you?
    In normal countries, people are asked for their opinion on certain issues

    Are you implying that Ukraine is a normal country? In which place?
    1. maktub
      maktub 16 October 2020 19: 17
      -1
      At least in the elections laughing
  39. zwlad
    zwlad 16 October 2020 16: 24
    0
    Who did they surrender to? Why does the Russian Federation need full-scale aggression then. They are generally there chtol ...
  40. Klmn
    Klmn 16 October 2020 18: 50
    +1
    Hello everyone, allow my personal opinion.
    Why RF 404? You understand that it will be necessary to invest money there, in Crimea alone, how much they have pumped up, and there is more territory ... Moreover, Crimea is the base of the Black Sea Fleet, and the lease contract was expiring ... When all this mess happened, I think Russia just created a buffer zone between yourself and independent, hey, this is rightly beneficial to take the leadership of another problem, but cynical, but the days of the knights are over ...
    The fact that there were, I emphasize were the military of the Russian Federation, that's for sure, there were videos, these guys obviously did not pull at the miners, even the gaze of Givi and Matarolla, they rest in peace, compared to that intelligence as the look of a dog and a mother wolf, sorry for such a comparison , then by the way the videos disappeared somewhere ...
    There is no doubt that Russia will be able to iron out everything with fire, the tanks with infantry will be adjusted, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are now at least slightly better than in 2014, but art training is a terrible force, but !, and you are sure that there will be no interference, for the sake of 404 missiles are unlikely to fly, but that's all the same ... Maybe not direct, but there may be more mercenary units than soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine .... Russia needs all this, I think not, even if it understands inside.
    Plus, which is very regrettable, there was a video about the vaccine, and so Russian-speaking guys under 25 are sure that Ukraine is fighting against Russia, only apparently Russia forgot to inform about it ...
    P. S. Do not be critical of grammar, I write from the phone, I can miss :)
    1. maktub
      maktub 16 October 2020 19: 20
      0
      Even a plus
  41. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 16 October 2020 19: 41
    0
    be afraid of us! You can't say otherwise, the Anglo-Saxons are afraid))))
  42. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 19: 43
    0
    Quote: maktub
    At least in the elections laughing

    Most funny, right? Because in the clown elections in some kind of big top))
  43. Tagan
    Tagan 16 October 2020 19: 58
    0
    Quote: Klmn
    and you are sure that there will be no interference, for the sake of 404 missiles are unlikely to fly, but still ... Maybe not direct, but there may be more mercenary units than soldiers of the Armed Forces ...

    Yes, there were a lot of mercenaries. The trouble is that mercenaries also want to live, especially American ones))) they are aware that Russians have a special "love" for them. it is clear that then go to the expense of psheki and other, pardon the French, peeling. But they really want to live.
  44. Gray-haired Zinnik
    Gray-haired Zinnik 16 October 2020 20: 41
    0
    Experience of six and a half years of war with whom? If they got rid of the militia. This "general" does not understand that no one will fight the armed forces face to face. Bombed and that's it. Even a fool understands this
  45. RVAPatriot
    RVAPatriot 16 October 2020 22: 14
    +1
    He is so threatening that we will have to bury them too ???
  46. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 16 October 2020 23: 12
    0
    Got it already, Russia will not step on you and feed and drink. Spin yourself, rogue.

    This "general" looks like an African or Latin American mega field marshal with a bunch of cheap and useless tweets))
    And the form is like a cheap parody of the SS))
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  48. bzbo
    bzbo 17 October 2020 13: 58
    -1
    The only problem is that there are Russians on both sides ...
    The rural population as a source of Ukraine is practically over. It died out and parted. And the urban population of Ukraine has always been Russian both in Lvov and Kiev.
  49. yehat2
    yehat2 17 October 2020 14: 07
    0
    can at least one Ukrainian general explain WHY the Russian Federation invades Ukraine?
  50. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 17 October 2020 15: 30
    0
    in the Ukrainian army, in contrast to the Russian one, there are motivated servicemen

    Motivated by whom? Pravosek, who stand in Donbass as detachments, so that the garish lads do not scatter in different directions?