"I received physical and mental assistance": a cadet of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who survived the fall of the An-26 decided to continue his studies

A video was released in Ukraine, the main character of which was a cadet of the Kharkiv National University of the Air Force named after I. Kozhedub Vyacheslav Zolochevsky. This is the same cadet who turned out to be the only survivor of the fall of the An-26 transport aircraft. Recall that Ukraine has not yet given an answer to the question of what is the main reason for the fall of the aircraft of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. One of the preliminary versions sounded like this: a problem with the engines - the last overhaul was carried out 30 years ago.

The main message of the video, filmed by the military television of Ukraine, was to tell Ukrainians about the decision taken by the cadet Zolochevsky. Earlier, he said that he does not know yet whether he will continue to be among the cadets of the aviation faculty. Now Vyacheslav Zolochevsky himself said that he decided to return to the learning process.

The cadet also said that the president of Ukraine and the head of the national university spoke with him. Zolochevsky also showed a medal for service to Ukraine, which he was awarded by the Ukrainian authorities. The medal was presented to the cadet by Major General Alexander Turinsky, head of the Kozhedub University in Kharkov.

Zolochevsky:

Of course it was an accident ... it was terrible. But I will continue to study the chosen specialty. I received not only physical, but also moral assistance.

Comments

[nnm]

Of course it was an accident ... it was terrible.

Is it correct to call what happened a disaster he has already been banned? Not surprising. Although who, who, and pilots understand the difference between an aircraft accident and a disaster, even the cadets.
And every time I cringe when I see Kozhedub's name at the mention of the APU. They don't deserve it at all.

[Grandfather]

a kid on a hard surzhik cuts ... straight "wide Ukrainian". financially supported? lucky, survived, don't fly anymore!

[Avior]

Judging by the pronunciation, his native language is Russian. And by the last name he is clearly Russian.

[Egoza]

Quote: Avior

Judging by the pronunciation, his native language is Russian.

So Kharkov is the same! There are almost all Russians!

[Avior]

Is he from Kharkov?
But in fact, it was in Kharkov that, as a boy, in the distant Soviet times, I first saw the signs of the “outhouse” and “perukarnya”, which surprised me then, I remember.

[Tamparu]

Quote: Avior

Is he from Kharkov?
But in fact, it was in Kharkov that, as a boy, in the distant Soviet times, I first saw the signs of the “outhouse” and “perukarnya”, which surprised me then, I remember.

Well, so it was still under the USSR the territory of the Ukrainian SSR ...
Although "idyll and perukarnya" always brought a smile to my mind ...

[Zoomlion]

In an interview with the first one, he and his mother spoke Russian. Wait a minute, they made me memorize the text and say that it wouldn’t smell bad.

[TermNachTer]

I don't know about this, but the cadets from the Bandera Institute ran away. UkroVVS even made a denial of this information)))

[askort154]

Aviation accident without fatalities - "accident". If at least one person dies as a result of an accident within one month, it will be considered a "catastrophe".
If the above happens on the ground, and is not related to the flight (before the start of takeoff, or after the runway is cleared after "landing"), then it qualifies as an "emergency" (emergency).
In this case, this aviation accident, unambiguously, should be qualified as an "aviation accident". Modern media, very often, when commenting on aviation accidents, show a complete lack of knowledge of the canons of aviation, and write all sorts of ad-libbing, just to give out "hot". Sometimes it becomes ashamed of them.

[Aviator_]

Sometimes it becomes ashamed of them

Similarly, with the use of the term "epicenter" - the journalists mention it without including the head. In 99% of cases, this is the center, and the epicenter is the projection of the center onto the surface. An example is an earthquake, its center is at a depth, and buildings are crumbling on the surface of the Earth, here the term "epicenter" is necessary. Or in the case of an air explosion, there is a center (at a height), and there is an epicenter - its projection. But what is the demand from talking heads?

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: askort154

Modern media, very often, when commenting on aviation accidents, show complete ignorance of the canons of aviation, and write all sorts of gag,

I remember how Olga Nikitina gave out on Vzglyad, in pursuit of the publication of hot news, that the plane had "dropped the hydraulic system" in flight. By the way, she previously wrote that two terrorists were arrested in four cities!

[Reviews]

This is all bullshit ...

The reason for the airliner's emergency landing was that there was no computation of pressurization in the cockpit, and therefore the plane that took off at 10:59 Moscow time from the Rostov airport at 12:16 made an emergency landing in Sochi.

https://gudok.ru/content/transport/883332/

In another note on the topic of this landing, it was generally scribbled that without the "calculation of sealing" the plane would crash, but I did not find that note, unfortunately ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

You know, according to the recollections of the polar pilot Vodopyanov, Comrade Stalin, also did not distinguish between an accident and a disaster.
And what to take from the kid?
For him, this incident has probably already become the most significant in his life.
On the right - yes, a disaster. Already quoted by a colleague.

[nnm]

You should not produce essences unnecessarily. I'm sure it was just "edited".
Yes, this is not a "kid", but a cadet, who for certain was taught this difference at the very first lectures.

[The leader of the Redskins]

What is confidence based on? Have you attended in person or is there any other evidence?

[nnm]

Yes, just as on a mandatory basis, cadets, conscripts in the first place, in the very first days of MBP are taught the basics of international military law, so flyers are also taught the basics of flight safety. And this is one of the topics.

[The leader of the Redskins]

That is, your confidence is based on assumption.
Personal. I was a cadet at a technical university. Back in the USSR. We were not told the difference you specified. Although I attended all the classes. Again, I myself learned about it from fiction.

[nnm]

Apparently, they slept a lot during the lectures. I learned about this at school at the lessons of the CWP, then in the first days of service, then in the first days of being a cadet ...

[Egoza]

Quote: nnm

Yes, just as on a mandatory basis, cadets, conscripts in the first place, in the very first days of MBP are taught the basics of international military law, so flyers are also taught the basics of flight safety. And this is one of the topics.

Well, here this topic was removed, and instead of it they put the topic "Ukraine will go on."

[Reviews]

Uh-huh ... "... uber allez."

[figwam]

Yes, in the first year at the beginning of the training, they explained to us the same terms what they mean, so that we do not confuse accidents with disasters.

[Avior]

He seems to be talking about an accident, not an incident.
As for Kozhedub, this is the memory of the hero.
Nothing wrong with that.

[nnm]

This is how accidents are subdivided into flight accidents (without casualties) and disasters (with casualties). That is, this is how in Ukraine they like to call loans financial assistance - it seems that it is not a mistake, but it does not sober the listener. So here too - "catastrophe" - it is too harsh and unpleasant to hear, more uncomfortable questions will be asked, but here it is just "an accident".
But I still disagree about Kozhedub .... that is, under his name these ..... I don't know what word to choose ... the ukronazist (and now official in the Armed Forces of Ukraine) "SUGS" will shout and is this normal? They will continue to bomb peaceful cities and hang portraits of Bandera and so on .... Well, in my mind, Kozhedub does not combine with this brown plague.

[Avior]

Is Kozhedub generally compatible with Ukrainians?
Kozhedub is Ukrainian, old Cossack surname.
Do you think that any mention of war heroes should be banned in Ukraine? This is a strange logic, I am just sure the opposite - not to prohibit in any way, to preserve, as it is, all the memory of the heroes.
And as for the boy, a cadet for a week, it is not surprising that he misused the term, even if he knew.
Firstly, he did not move away from the catastrophe, in which, by the way, he himself suffered, and pulled a friend out of the rubble, otherwise they asked what the medal was for, and secondly, judging by the name and the way he speaks, he is Russian, and His native language is Russian, of course, he gave interviews to TV people with tension in Ukrainian.
It is not clear at all that the kid was attacked as if he was already a war criminal.
He has already committed a direct thought crime according to Orwell; however, even according to Orwell, there is no evidence even of a thought crime.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: nnm

And every time I cringe when I see Kozhedub's name at the mention of the APU. They don't deserve it at all.

I am also jarred from their pharisaism. The Soviet legacy is not recognized, but the Three Times Hero of the USSR is recognized.

[iouris]

Quote: nnm

has he been banned from calling what happened a disaster?

For him personally, this is an aviation accident - an "accident". And there will probably not be an investigation. They don't want to go out on their own, like in Poland after the Tu-154 disaster.

[Incvizitor]

A catastrophe, when civilians were killed and this is a Hitler youth, so an incident, no more.

[1976AG]

And they gave a medal. Reward for ... what?

[nnm]

As I understand it, for an attempt to "save" a friend, although at first, having regained consciousness, he did not talk about it, and then a story appeared of how he saved a burning friend ...
More precisely, not even so - first the media began to write about it, and then suddenly he himself "remembered" how he "saved".

[Egoza]

Quote: nnm

More precisely, not even so - first the media began to write about it, and then suddenly he himself "remembered" how he "saved".

Well, so he was "helped" to remember. Now the medal must be worked out. I wonder if he still got a medal made of metal or is it already plastic?

[bober1982]

Quote: Egoza

Well, so he was "helped" to remember

Yes, the local agitprop, at the level of KVN.
The guy is young and stupid, he says what to take from him, what he was told.
The commander of the crashed An-26sh was poorly trained as a crew commander and made gross errors in piloting.
The plane itself was in disrepair.
The level of flight organization was very low.
The training flight was ridiculous in terms of training cadets.
There was absolutely no control in preparation for the flight.
The command staff of the educational institution is engaged in eyewash and window dressing.
You can continue to continue in the same spirit.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

I wonder if he still got a medal made of metal or is it already plastic?

Most likely luminous.

[iouris]

Quote: nnm

and then suddenly he himself "remembered" how he "saved".

It happens. The case with the "Berlin patient" confirms this: after several days of being in a coma, he remembered everything: how he was "persecuted" and who. And he gave evidence.

[iouris]

Quote: 1976AG

Reward for ... what?

Do you know the old principle: "Deal with" the right way "and reward ..." just anyone ""? No? And this is it.

[Reviews]

Of course it was an accident ... it was terrible.

This is a tryndets. That is, for him, his colleagues are not people. Interesting bastard ... Really a bandit.

[Thrifty]

Here is a new "hero" sculpted for the image of a quasi-country! He probably learned the text by heart all night, especially in "Vukroinsky", but he could have said the same in Russian, it would have been easier and faster!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

Here is a new "hero" sculpted for the image of a quasi-country!

This is how the image of "404" is made on the tears of parents in a catastrophe, in the death of people.
And why and by whose fault this terrible catastrophe occurred - silence from both the government and the media. The main thing is that they found a hero.

[Ros 56]

He will learn, he can and will learn, but the fear in the soul will remain forever, such things do not go for nothing. Psychology is subtle matter.

[bober1982]

Quote: Ros 56

Learns what he can and will learn

First, you need to get medical treatment, then go through a medical commission and get admission to flight work.
By the way, aviation doctors didn’t like those who: got a fingal under the eye, who was hit on the head with a club, got a ball in the forehead, talkative — they liked to talk about noises in their heads and so on.
This is why - he still needs to go through a medical commission, after such and such a disaster.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: bober1982

First, you need to get medical treatment, then go through a medical commission and get admission to flight work.
By the way, aviation doctors didn’t like those who: got a fingal under the eye, who was hit on the head with a club, got a ball in the forehead, talkative — they liked to talk about noises in their heads and so on.
This is why - he still needs to go through a medical commission, after such and such a disaster.

Absolutely agree, typical Ukrainian wow propaganda. 99% chance that the guy does not see aviation as his ears.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bober1982

First, you need to get medical treatment, then go through a medical commission and get admission to flight work.

But fear will never be cured, it remains for life.

[bober1982]

Quote: tihonmarine

But fear will never be cured, it remains for life.

Yes, that's right, and there may be problems with the psyche, or maybe already there. Doctors will look askance at him.

[AlexVas44]

It looks like he was preparing to become a navigator, so after all, you can not fly, but become a combat command officer ...

[Egoza]

Quote: AlexVas44

It looks like he was preparing to become a navigator, so after all, you can not fly, but become a combat command officer ...

Nadia Savchenko also wanted to become a navigator at first

[bober1982]

The stubbornness of the Ukrainian authorities about this catastrophe is surprising. The best thing for them is to forget and not mention this whole sad story for them.
These on the contrary, they are talking nonsense. Although you can understand them - there are many guilty ones, it will not work to blame one crew commander, because even the general who presented this ridiculous medal should have been removed from his post long ago.

[Graz]

the guy is better off on civil flights, fate itself tells him this

[Egoza]

Quote: Graz

the guy is better off on civil flights, fate itself tells him this

If psychological trauma remains, what kind of flights? Is that on balloons !!! (Who has not read - I recommend Larry Walters and his balloon flight https://www.mdoffice.com.ua/ru/aMDOAnekdot.findQst?p_id=660322)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

If psychological trauma remains, what kind of flights?

Yes, he will be afraid from the fifth floor to look down, and not say to go up into the sky. Few can overcome fear, and precisely the fear of such a terrible catastrophe.

[Reviews]

Quote: Graz

the guy is better off on civil flights, fate itself tells him this

There are almost no civil navigators left. There will hardly be more than two dozen flying civilian Il-76s flying the Ukrainian flag. An-124s are even less. An-26th ... Well, maybe 3-4 dozen. That's the whole field of activity for a navigator in civilian life.

[bober1982]

Quote: Avis

There will hardly be more than two dozen flying civilian Il-76s flying the Ukrainian flag. An-124s are even less. An-26th ... Well, maybe 3-4 dozen

They do not have dozens of transport planes, they were sold out long ago, plundered, squandered and rotted, that they did not have time to plunder, even An-26 and, those are not.

[Reviews]

Quote: bober1982

Quote: Avis

There will hardly be more than two dozen flying civilian Il-76s flying the Ukrainian flag. An-124s are even less. An-26th ... Well, maybe 3-4 dozen

They do not have dozens of transport planes, they were sold out long ago, plundered, squandered and rotted, that they did not have time to plunder, even An-26 and, those are not.

I counted twenty civilian An-26s and dropped them in the middle of the table. So they have "dozens of transport planes".

[bober1982]

Quote: Avis

I counted twenty civilian An-26s

Previously, there were many in Vinnitsa, in the court regiment and, in the VVVASH named after the Proletariat of Donbass (An-26sh), but they were all torn apart long ago.

[Reviews]

Quote: bober1982

Quote: Avis

I counted twenty civilian An-26s

Previously, there were many in Vinnitsa, in the court regiment and, in the VVVASH named after the Proletariat of Donbass (An-26sh), but they were all torn apart long ago.

I wrote about civilian trucks from the very beginning and stated it directly.

[bober1982]

Okay, so be it, why argue.

[aszzz888]

The medal was presented to the cadet by Major General Alexander Turinsky, head of the Kozhedub University in Kharkov.

For accidentally surviving? Yes, fate turned to him favorably (this time), and there - as the Almighty will measure.

[beeper]

Judging by his manner and speech, Vyacheslav is a mental "felt boot for life" and a native of the village (or a resident of urban outskirts), from a poor family of working people - we are the majority in "independent" Ukraine!
For whom (in the current anti-national Nazi bourgeois "Ukrainian realities") to become a military man is a chance to "break out into the people", have a guaranteed "income" and get at least some kind of "higher education", alas!
Apparently, all this was "popularly explained" to him by his current "bosses", who clearly did not want to, after the resonant terrible Plane crash, to have a scandal with the cadets who were afraid to "fly on coffins" - "refuseniks (where is one, there will be others too ?!)" ?!
Although, if so, just fantastic, he was lucky enough to survive falling from the sky, then the guy would be worth (the question of questions, how will Vyacheslav still overcome the TCP ?! ) and think about it - not a "bell" of Fate (although the famous Yugoslav stewardess who survived a plane crash, during a free fall from a height of 10 meters, recovered, then flew again, but that is a stewardess who serves passengers, not a military pilot or a navigator piloting an airplane, including under conditions of prolonged stress!), will it be so all the time (one, also a miracle survivor, a civilian lucky navigator continued to fly and soon crashed to death in the crash of another Tu-000! ) ??!

[bober1982]

Quote: pishchak

Although, if so, just fantastic, lucky to survive falling from the sky

Was he even aboard the plane?
There was a bloody mess.

[beeper]

An interesting question! So according to the lists and testimonies of eyewitnesses, he was on board like ?!
With luck, it happens - the Higher Reason saves a person for something, even among the bloody mess and a fiery hyena it shelters unharmed - Fate (I also did not believe in this before, even despite my very early death - reunion with the Light-Omniscience and forced excommunication -resurrection, for some reason all my life I stubbornly believed that our fate is only in our hands ... it turned out, no!)!
Vyacheslav just needs to think (what was it for ?!), take up his mind and act right in life!
But this does not immediately come to realization, and sometimes it does not even reach if the brains are on one side (or "Svidomo" smaydaneny)!

[bober1982]

Quote: pishchak

So according to the lists and testimonies of eyewitnesses, he was on board like ?!

In plane crashes with a large number of fatalities, as a rule, the death toll does not correspond to these very lists. Sometimes, the lucky ones did not get on board, for some reason, but remained on the lists.
And what eyewitnesses, they all remained under the burning debris.

[beeper]

Now, it seems, I understood your thought-like "setup" so that the "general picture" of the plane crash does not look so 100% terrible, hopeless, totally hopeless ?!
That there was some supposedly "one chance in a thousand", a sort of optimistic "ray of light", and the cadets did not lose heart at all from the sad "prospects" of explicit "flying on coffins" ??!
After all, a person is "so arranged" that usually in a mortally dangerous situation he "calms himself down" - they say, "it will not be with me, I will be lucky to survive (" how lucky our Vyacheslav was?! ")" ....

[bober1982]

To fly on "coffins" is still not a reason to refuse flights. Although there were such cases, even in Soviet aviation, and not at all the cadets refused, for example, on "Myasishchevs"
Everything somehow looks dull.
And, the funeral was nasty, with show elements.
My compliments to you.

[beeper]

Thank Bober1982
To be honest, I did not follow this event and the funeral (alas, in the post-Maidan "Ukraine" military funeral is an occasion for the carbon monoxide "patriotic" PR "Maidan authorities" and any "Ukrainian" rabble), only watched the video with the burning remains of the plane, despite on the keel "Ana" sticking out whole at the side of the road, there is no "living place" left for people and Vyacheslav's story is amazing, but NOT incredible!
IMHO

[bober1982]

Quote: pishchak

but NOT incredible!

I agree that everything is God's will.

[amr]

Quote: Aviator_

Similarly, with the use of the term "epicenter" - the journalists mention it without including the head. In 99% of cases, this is the center, and the epicenter is the projection of the center onto the surface. An example is an earthquake, its center is at a depth, and buildings are crumbling on the surface of the Earth, here the term "epicenter" is necessary. Or in the case of an air explosion, there is a center (at a height), and there is an epicenter - its projection. But what is the demand from talking heads?

ABOUT! thanks for the enlightenment ....