Aliyev warned about the consequences of recognizing the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh

Azerbaijan will immediately sever diplomatic relations with any country that has recognized the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh. This was stated by the President of the country Ilham Aliyev in an interview with the Turkish TV channel Haberturk.

The territorial integrity of Azerbaijan is recognized by the whole world. (...) I do not believe that any country will recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, because in less than an hour we will cut off all diplomatic ties with this country. It is necessary

- he said.

At the same time, Aliyev stressed that after the return of the territory and the end of the conflict, the Azerbaijani and Armenian peoples will jointly live in Nagorno-Karabakh, as it happens in other countries. He added that the Azerbaijani people are not the enemy of the Armenian.

The Azerbaijani people just want to live in the land of their ancestors. He has the right to do so. Let them live, and we. But to expel us so that only they can live there is unfair. We can never agree to this

- he said.

Commenting on the possibility of sending peacekeepers to Nagorno-Karabakh, Aliyev noted that this is possible only with the consent of Azerbaijan and Armenia.

Another question is that today, when we talk about peacekeepers, we are talking about the territory of Azerbaijan, everyone should understand this. The matter concerns the territory of independent Azerbaijan. Without our permission, peacekeepers of no country can be sent to our lands. This is against the law. This is contrary to international law. And this is unacceptable

- he stressed.

In turn, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, during his address to the nation, said that Armenia was aware of Azerbaijan's plans to start hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh. According to him, Baku initially demanded that seven regions around Nagorno-Karabakh be given to Azerbaijan, and also refused to consider the issue of the status of Nagorno-Karabakh outside Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijan demanded that the people of Karabakh immediately surrender five out of seven districts, submit a schedule for the surrender of the remaining two, and fix that, whatever the status, Karabakh should be a part of Azerbaijan. That is, the districts had to be surrendered not in return for status, but in return for peace. Otherwise, Azerbaijan threatened to resolve the issue by war

- added Pashinyan.

Comments

[opuonmed]

you can take the mountainous part of the Russian Federation and open the passage for both Armenians and Azerbaijan and that's all)

[Observer2014]

Quote: opuonmed

you can take the mountainous part of the Russian Federation and open the passage for both Armenians and Azerbaijan and that's all)

Autumn aggravation, it is like this, then winter, and then spring And there is summer and again ..

[opuonmed]

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: opuonmed

you can take the mountainous part of the Russian Federation and open the passage for both Armenians and Azerbaijan and that's all)

Autumn aggravation, it is like this, then winter, and then spring And there is summer and again ..

don't tell me! some can not even write why it is not so and it is impossible to do it like that, it is so

[Oleg123219307]

Quote: opuonmed

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: opuonmed

you can take the mountainous part of the Russian Federation and open the passage for both Armenians and Azerbaijan and that's all)

Autumn aggravation, it is like this, then winter, and then spring And there is summer and again ..

don't tell me! some can not even write why it is not so and it is impossible to do it like that, it is so

Why do we need it? Carrying chestnuts out of the fire for these guys. There are such "friends" on both sides - you will swing. They wanted independence - let them now sip a full spoon. I see no reason to kill our guys for other people's mountains and strangers who decided that we are no longer one country and people.

[vVvAD]

Because this is not Russian land. Now that there are no Armenian and Azerbaijani SSRs, and these are separate countries, the decision must be between these countries. Legally, these are the lands of Azerbaijan inhabited by Armenians. Armenia and NKR do not trust Azerbaijan, therefore they are not going to transfer even the adjacent security belt.
In the light of the visit of the Chairman of Azerbaijan to the Russian Federation before the start of hostilities, the information in the article below begins to play with completely different colors:
https://www.geopolitica.ru/article/iskusstvo-vozmozhnogo-armeniya-i-novyy-evraziyskiy-alyans

[Boris Chernikov]

Well, if you remember that on the one hand, "the Azerbaijani people are not an enemy of the Armenian", and on the other hand, the hero of Azerbaijan is considered to be the "man" who hacked the sleeping Armenian ... in general ... no comments

[Revolver]

Quote: Boris Chernikov

Well, if you remember that on the one hand, "the Azerbaijani people are not an enemy of the Armenian", and on the other hand, the hero of Azerbaijan is considered to be the "man" who hacked the sleeping Armenian ... in general ... no comments

Of course the Azerbaijani people are not the enemy of the Armenian. But in order for the massacre to take place, several individuals are enough, whose views do not at all reflect the point of view of the entire Azerbaijani people and especially its leadership. The Armenians have already learned from the bitter experience of the 1915 massacre and the Baku events of 1990. So most likely the idea of ​​living together, although beautiful and politically correct, is, alas, unviable.
And there is also a piece of Azerbaijan in Nakhichevan, separated from it by Armenia, so that the message goes only through Iran. The territory is roughly the same as Karabakh, especially considering the security zone. So, maybe a reasonable solution would be to exchange territories and populations. But it seems that neither side wants to agree on anything, so either someone will force them to peace, or let them fight until one of them admits defeat and asks for peace.

[YOUR]

This is how the NKR was formed. The Azerbaijani side began a natural genocide against both Armenians and Russians living in the territory of Karabakh. Only now, for some reason, they forgot about it, forgot the events of 1988 in Sumgait. How have they forgotten that the massacre was stopped by the one stationed there if my sclerosis does not change me 176 ms. They forgot that in the same 1988 the regional council of the NKAO petitioned the supreme authorities of the USSR and Azerbaijan to transfer Karabakh to Armenia. By the way, nothing new, there have been such appeals before, but they have never been advertised. The Supreme Soviet of the USSR refused to Karabakh, but this did not prevent the Karabakh authorities from announcing their secession from Azerbaijan on July 12. Gorbachev, as always, hid in the sink and pretended that nothing was happening. Then the collapse of the USSR and the war in 1992-94. 2 years (!!!!!!!!!!!) thousands of deaths.
It is worth remembering how the real armed conflict began, it was the Azerbaijani side that started it.

[Nikanet]

Pull up the materiel.

[Alex Justice]

Aliyev stressed that after the return of the territory and the end of the conflict, the Azerbaijani and Armenian peoples will jointly live in Nagorno-Karabakh, as it happens in other countries.

The Poles did so when they took part of Germany. And where are the Germans who lived there and in Prussia now?

[Nikanet]

And it is quite possible to crush sleeping Azerbaijani children with tanks in Khojaly, right?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: vVvAD

Because this is not Russian land. Now that there are no Armenian and Azerbaijani SSRs, and these are separate countries, the decision must be between these countries. Legally, these are the lands of Azerbaijan inhabited by Armenians. Armenia and NKR do not trust Azerbaijan, therefore they are not going to transfer even the adjacent security belt.

Let me disagree with you. If we rely solely on Aliyev’s “substantiation” where as an argument he puts forward the foundations of international law and tries to build options for resolving the Karabakh issue based on this “international law”, then we must return to the question that the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY guaranteed “integrity and inviolability” borders of the USSR, but as soon as its disintegration signaled, it immediately recognized all the republics as "independent within the existing borders." Question - WHO ESTABLISHED THE ADMINISTRATIVE TERRITORIAL BORDERS IN THE USSR? -Established the borders of the USSR !!! Who is the legal successor of the USSR? That's right Russia !!! This fact is recognized by the international community! The international community, during the collapse in 1991, never fought for the preservation of the territorial integrity of the USSR and in general flew past its guarantees !!! So why does this "ragged" community recognize the continuity of Russia only in terms of the financial obligations of the USSR and does not recognize the right of Russia on territorial issues? In fact, only Russia has the right to establish the boundaries of the breakaway subjects and submit them to the UN for confirmation! The process of formalizing the "collapse" of the USSR was never agreed with the successor, but was stupidly adopted according to the administrative-territorial patterns of the USSR as of the same 1991. If someone from the "15 Independent" thinks that he is all of himself "independent", then let him return to Russia all the debts that were paid for him by Russia. If there is no money and no desire to pay it, then make the decision that Russia will make on the administrative and territorial division of the breakaway entity. It is the right of Russia to move their borders according to the standards in which they were accepted into the USSR. In my opinion this is true.

[vVvAD]

I won't even debate. Check out the Madrid Principles. To start.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: vVvAD

I won't even debate. Check out the Madrid Principles. To start.

Why do you think that the "Madrid principles", against the background of the fact that all other principles of international law have been practically nullified by one fucking country (the USA), are above our principles? As a result of the Second World War, the West guaranteed the integrity of the USSR within the established boundaries? Guaranteed! Which of these countries screamed about not recognizing the breakup into 15 separate republics? Nobody! But now they are all howling in unison only about one change in the status of Crimea! The USSR collapsed, but the legal, political and financial obligations for its debts were unambiguously recognized by the West (as well as the breakaway republics) for Russia, but for some reason only financial obligations were taken into account. Finally, for the babos for the entire USSR, we paid off all the "creditors" and for all the republics in 2017 or in 2018 (the extreme recipients, in my opinion, are Croats, but not the essence of someone from the Balkan states), but for some reason, no other aspects of "law enforcement" are not considered a priori, although the principle of resolving any controversial issues on the territory of the post-Soviet space (including territorial ones) should operate only with the consent of Russia.

[vVvAD]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Why do you think that the "Madrid principles" ... are superior to our principles?

And, pray tell, where did you get the idea that I think so ?! Russia is involved in their creation, and they meet both our interests and our principles. You still read, otherwise it sounds ridiculous from your lips: "I have not read, but I condemn."

Quote: Nyrobsky

As a result of the Second World War, the West guaranteed the integrity of the USSR within the established boundaries? Guaranteed!

Please provide an international document in which this is recorded. Huh? Toto.
And the fact that Gorbachev took his word for it says either about his stupidity, or about venality.

Quote: Nyrobsky

The USSR collapsed, but the legal, political and financial obligations for its debts were unambiguously recognized by the West (as well as the breakaway republics) for Russia, but for some reason only financial obligations were taken into account ... but for some reason no other aspects of "law enforcement" not considered a priori ...

And there was such a consent to financial succession! And other issues were not considered due to the traditional scam of the West. But Russia has not raised these issues to this day either - this, again, goes to offset the generosity and stupidity of the former leadership of Russia, because it could have refused or set its own conditions.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: memmed memmed

Return to us the cost of 175000000 tons of Baku oil + gas pumped into the USSR and we will return your debt

Well, in fairness, let's then remember what Baku was like before the USSR and how it came out of it. For some time, in 1986, I lived where the classic version of the former Azerbaijan in the period of the tsarist empire is located, in the town of Ahmedli (you probably know where it is), where I walked along narrow medieval streets that went through the cemetery to the outskirts of Soviet Baku, from where I went to the center. Even then, in Baku it was not the same as in the whole USSR, because the speculative trade of hawkers flourished on the streets, and they had to pay for the goods at the price indicated by the seller, despite the fact that no one gave change in change. If it was not possible to pay at the indicated price, then no one handed over the change and rounded up to a ruble or fifty dollars. I do not know how things are with your qepiks now, but I think the same way, since habit is second nature. All factories, ports, (no fleet), airfields, railways, power lines, hospitals, schools, kindergartens, with all communications, etc. were built on rubles of the USSR in which there was your oil and gold of Yakutia, wheat of Ukraine and BELAZ from Belarus. Maybe you can tell an incredible story about the fact that they were built exclusively for manats, Turkish lira and American dollars? Dare, it would be interesting to read!

[Rubina]

I will answer you with pleasure - in less than 30 years of independence, we have demolished all factories, ports, airfields, almost all schools and hospitals built during the Soviet era and instead built many times larger and more modern facilities. For example, Azizbekov and Krupsky maternity hospitals, 4 hospital, Semashko hospital, Baku port, deep-water base plant, all factories of the Black City, all airports, central 6, 23, 134 and 132 schools in Baku have been demolished and rebuilt and more often in a different place ...

[Grits]

Quote: Rubina

in less than 30 years of independence, we demolished all factories, ports, airfields, almost all schools and hospitals built under Soviet rule

Well, these are your problems - they demolished, so they demolished. But we also ate your oil a long time ago. So what - shall we pay off? We are for the eaten oil, you are for the demolished infrastructure. Wallpaper let's get rich.

[Alex Justice]

If it was not possible to pay at the indicated price, then no one handed over the change and rounded up to a ruble or fifty dollars.

In Australia, every penny is surrendered. Tipping is not accepted here. Great system.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: opuonmed

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: opuonmed

you can take the mountainous part of the Russian Federation and open the passage for both Armenians and Azerbaijan and that's all)

Autumn aggravation, it is like this, then winter, and then spring And there is summer and again ..

don't tell me! some can not even write why it is not so and it is impossible to do it like that, it is so

1. Why? what are the benefits?
2. Severing deep relations with the Azeris. Strengthening of Turkey's influence in the region, a sharp deterioration in relations with the Turks. And for what? for the sake of the territory not recognized even by the Armenians, maybe after that they will deign to open Russian schools? ... By the way, relations with the same Armenians in this case will deteriorate too, they need Karabakh either as a neutral region or as their own region, but certainly not Russian.

In this matter, I do not understand one thing - why am I telling things that are understandable even to primary school students

[BecmepH]

Quote: opuonmed

some can not even write why it is not so and it is impossible to do it like that, it is like that)

You can't write it yourself, but criticize others)))

[Oquzyurd]

Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev on his Twitter page announced the new successes of the victorious Azerbaijani army.

“The valiant Azerbaijani army liberated the villages of Garadaghly, Khatunbulag, Garakolla in the Fizuli region and the villages of Bulutan, Melikjanli, Kemertyuk, Teke and Tagaser in the Khojavend region from occupation.

Long live the Azerbaijani army! Karabakh is Azerbaijan! " - the message says.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Oquzyurd

Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev on his Twitter page announced the new successes of the victorious Azerbaijani army.

“The valiant Azerbaijani army liberated the villages of Garadaghly, Khatunbulag, Garakolla in the Fizuli region and the villages of Bulutan, Melikjanli, Kemertyuk, Teke and Tagaser in the Khojavend region from occupation.

Long live the Azerbaijani army! Karabakh is Azerbaijan! " - the message says.

Would you go with your propaganda and chants from this resource to Azerbaijani ones.

[Oquzyurd]

Armenia continues to receive weapons from abroad. President Ilham Aliyev said this in an interview with the Turkish TV channel Haber Turk.

“After the clashes in the Tovuz region, which ended on July 16, cargo planes have been delivering weapons to Armenia every day since July 17. Armenia's foreign exchange reserves amount to $ 1,5 billion, they have no other money. The external debt is about $ 8 billion. That is, this country is bankrupt. (…) If the war continues, we will destroy their entire army! Consequently, the sooner they end the war, the more tanks and artillery they can keep. How many weapons are left on the territory of Armenia? ”He added.

[1976AG]

And Azerbaijan receives weapons from Turkey and Israel, plus militants from neighboring regions. So, what is next ?

[Babermetis]

Quote: 1976AG

And Azerbaijan receives weapons from Turkey and Israel, plus militants from neighboring regions. So, what is next ?

They are solvent and stable traders. You can deal with them.

[1976AG]

Quote: Babermetis

Quote: 1976AG

And Azerbaijan receives weapons from Turkey and Israel, plus militants from neighboring regions. So, what is next ?

They are solvent and stable traders. You can deal with them.

The point is that without outside help, Azerbaijan would not have dared to fight. All the coolness is feigned. While they are being helped militarily and morally, they are heroes.

[Nikanet]

The point is that without outside help, the Armenians would not have dared to seize foreign lands!

[1976AG]

Quote: Nikanet

The point is that without outside help, the Armenians would not have dared to seize foreign lands!

How many years have Armenians been living in Karabakh? You are talking about state ownership, but when people have lived on this land for centuries, they also consider it theirs. After the collapse of the USSR, you had 30 years to solve this problem peacefully, but you didn't want to. Now destroy each other.

[Homeland]

Firstly, the Armenians have lived in Karabakh for centuries, and since the 19th century - after resettlement from Persia under the leadership of Russia (read the Gulistan and Turkmenchay agreements between Persia and Russia)
Secondly, it was the Azerbaijanis who lived in their ancestral lands of Erivan, Zangezur (the territory of modern Armenia), Karabakh and were forcibly expelled, with the complete silence of Russia.

[1976AG]

Quote: Homeland

Firstly, the Armenians have lived in Karabakh for centuries, and since the 19th century - after resettlement from Persia under the leadership of Russia (read the Gulistan and Turkmenchay agreements between Persia and Russia)
Secondly, it was the Azerbaijanis who lived in their ancestral lands of Erivan, Zangezur (the territory of modern Armenia), Karabakh and were forcibly expelled, with the complete silence of Russia.

How much you shortened the history) Karabakh was part of Great Armenia even before our era. Since the 13th century, Armenian dynasties have ruled there. Well, you yourself read a little history.

[Homeland]

I know the history of Azerbaijan and Armenia better than you. Have you read it either from Armenian sources or from Wikipedia written by Armenians. And there was no great Armenia, especially on the territory of Azerbaijan. This is a myth invented by the Armenians. You better study the history of Russia and do not forget about Khazaria, Bulgaria, Avaria ...

[Goffman]

IMHO, if history speaks about anything, it is that territorial issues have always been resolved not by disputes and litigation, who lived where a thousand years ago, but by iron and blood. In this sense, Azerbaijan has drawn the right conclusions from history and is now reaping the benefits. And all other "historical debate" is an abstract science like paleontology and talk for the benefit of the poor.

[1976AG]

Quote: Homeland

I know the history of Azerbaijan and Armenia better than you. Have you read it either from Armenian sources or from Wikipedia written by Armenians. And there was no great Armenia, especially on the territory of Azerbaijan. This is a myth invented by the Armenians. You better study the history of Russia and do not forget about Khazaria, Bulgaria, Avaria ...

Are you a historian by education or did you study from Azerbaijani textbooks?

[Alex777]

And Azerbaijan receives weapons from Turkey and Israel

They are solvent and stable traders. You can deal with them.

Reread what you wrote. How can their solvency warm you if you pay them?
And ask how much weapons were bought in Russia?
Russia, oddly enough, is the main supplier of weapons to Azerbaijan. Despite all the objections of Armenia.
If my memory serves me, Russia supplied ~ 5 billion worth of arms to Azerbaijan and only ~ 2 billion to Armenia.

[Grits]

Quote: 1976AG

plus militants from neighboring regions. So, what is next ?

And then Putin and Shoigu get tired of seeing these barmaley at their borders. And a Syrian-type operation will begin. "Calibers" from the Caspian Sea, "Iskanders" from the North Caucasus will fly to the bases. Sorry, comrades Azerbaijanis - this is not against you. This is against those who have been brought to you by good allies. Can you oppose something?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Gritsa

"Caliber" from the Caspian will fly to the bases,

Aha, and our ships will run into Harpoons.

[Grits]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Aha, and our ships will run into Harpoons.

Where will the harpoons be launched from?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Gritsa

Where will the harpoons be launched from?

From the Saar boats, of course. Did you think Azerbaijan has no fleet? I thought so too. Googled - fell into the sediment. They have it bigger than ours offhand. There is even a submarine.

[1976AG]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Gritsa

Where will the harpoons be launched from?

From the Saar boats, of course. Did you think Azerbaijan has no fleet? I thought so too. Googled - fell into the sediment. They have it bigger than ours offhand. There is even a submarine.

Cool !!! Even the submarine is still there!))

[1976AG]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Gritsa

Where will the harpoons be launched from?

From the Saar boats, of course. Did you think Azerbaijan has no fleet? I thought so too. Googled - fell into the sediment. They have it bigger than ours offhand. There is even a submarine.

Georgia also had a fleet.

[Mordvin 3]

Did they have modern Israeli boats with American anti-ship missiles?

[1976AG]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Did they have modern Israeli boats with American anti-ship missiles?

If necessary, then they will go there too, do not worry.

[Mordvin 3]

I don’t worry too much, but it’s not very correct to disregard their fleet.

[1976AG]

When an operation is being prepared, all types of weapons that can be used are taken into account.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: 1976AG

When an operation is being prepared, all types of weapons that can be used are taken into account.

You write this to those who are already here with might and main bullets in all directions.

[Goffman]

Yeah, like in the bunker: "... If I knew that they have so many boats, I wouldn't start this war ..."

[Grits]

Quote: Mordvin 3

From the Saar boats, of course. Did you think Azerbaijan has no fleet? I thought so too. Googled - fell into the sediment. They have it bigger than ours offhand. There is even a submarine.

I also looked. The submarine was also surprised. I just saw that all the armament of the boats is not so hot - artillery and not large-caliber. From the missile - only the old Soviet P-15 on some former TFR. I am sure that they do not have a single ship that can use bourgeois Harpoons.

[Alex Justice]

Where will the harpoons be launched from?

From whaling ships?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Oquzyurd

If the war continues, we will destroy their entire army!

Well, the Azerbaijani Fuhrer has already suffered
It seems like I was finishing MGIMO, a smart guy ....... was.

[1976AG]

So if it were not for the support of Turkey, he would have continued to sit straight, and then dispersed ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote: 1976AG

So if it were not for the support of Turkey, he would have continued to sit straight, and then dispersed ...

Do you think everything went without Putin's approval? ))

[1976AG]

Quote: Krasnodar

Quote: 1976AG

So if it were not for the support of Turkey, he would have continued to sit straight, and then dispersed ...

Do you think everything went without Putin's approval? ))

I think Erdogan has plenty of his own ambitions. He tries to expand his influence wherever possible.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: 1976AG

So if it were not for the support of Turkey, he would have continued to sit straight, and then dispersed ...

To hope for Edik, you know, can go sideways.

[1976AG]

Quote: MKPU-115

Quote: 1976AG

So if it were not for the support of Turkey, he would have continued to sit straight, and then dispersed ...

To hope for Edik, you know, can go sideways.

I know that, but here are the hot Azerbaijani guys ...

[MKPU-115]

Quote: 1976AG

I know that, but here are the hot Azerbaijani guys ...

And why are the Armenian ones worse, colder? Let them fight to their satisfaction, bleed badly, but when they lose the desire and ability to kill each other, sharply limit themselves. Only then it will be possible to seat the hot and no longer very guys at the negotiating table, at the same time pressing Edik's tail, "pulling out his mustache" once again, so as not to get underfoot.

[1976AG]

Do Armenian hot guys also hope for Edik? It was about trusting Erdogan. Otherwise, yes, let them fight as long as possible. They are worth each other.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: 1976AG

Do Armenian hot guys also hope for Edik?

Some on Edik, others on Vladimir Vladimirovich.
Only Edik, because of his ambitions, fit in for Azerbaijan, and our president still thinks at a strategic level, for which I respect him.

[1976AG]

In order to rely on Vladimir Vladimirovich, it was necessary to coordinate our actions with him. And nobody will like using oneself in the dark.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: MKPU-115

and our president still thinks at a strategic level,

How much are Turkish tomatoes?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Mordvin 3

How much are Turkish tomatoes?

BMP, we have a complex of our own greenhouses in the region. Everything is fresh all year round.
You think about Russia in some kind of backward categories.
Here is one of them in the photo

[Mordvin 3]

I am from the Tula region. If earlier all the fields around my grandfather's village were sown (rye, barley, corn, wheat), now there is nothing for 30 years.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

I am from the Tula region. If earlier all the fields around my grandfather's village were sown (rye, barley, corn, wheat), now there is nothing for 30 years.

We also do not have (rye, barley, corn, wheat), a zone of risky farming (weather, earth, loam). Previously, they poured into collective farms, and there, as usual, it was not the harvest, then it all rotted (rains), but the corn grew 20 centimeters
Now at least they have taken up their minds: cabbage, potatoes, carrots, Jerusalem artichoke, etc. - it is grown.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: MKPU-115

then it was not a crop, then it all rotted (rains), but the corn grew 20 centimeters

Put it all right on the ozone hole. Our corn used to grow normally, and when grandfather scorched a chicken on straw from rye, which was growing right outside the garden, and then grandmother would throw it into a saucepan, one could go crazy from the smell alone.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Put it all right on the ozone hole.

Look on the map where the Kostroma region is located.
Forests, swamps, Susanin hero , hello to the Poles.

[Krasnodar]

Straight on Kvachkov))

[novel66]

interesting, here we recognize Karabakh, he tore everything up there for himself, and the day after tomorrow teplushki with Azerbaijanis will reach their homeland, here are the joys

[Clear]

Quote: novel xnumx

interesting, here we recognize Karabakh, he tore everything up there for himself, and the day after tomorrow teplushki with Azerbaijanis will reach their homeland, here are the joys

Novel then Russia must recognize its territories within the borders of the Russian Empire, in its best years .

[novel66]

oh lady ..and Alaska?

[Grits]

Quote: novel xnumx

oh lady hi love .. and Alaska?

And Poland and Finland?

[dranthqu]

... and Fort Ross.

[Clear]

Quote: novel xnumx

oh lady .. and Alaska?

Quote: Gritsa

And Poland and Finland?

Quote: dranthqu

... and Fort Ross.

Finally, little by little, the Russian Bears began to wake up. While you were asleep, the crazed neighbors took everything away.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: novel xnumx

and the day after tomorrow teplushki with Azerbaijanis will go home, here are the joys

They will tear Aliyev to the fascist cross.

[Clear]

Quote: MKPU-115

Quote: 1976AG

So if it were not for the support of Turkey, he would have continued to sit straight, and then dispersed ...

To hope for Edik, you know, can go sideways.

Will definitely come out sideways. Turkey has its own domestic and international problems up to its throat. And Aliyev will have to take part of Turkey's problems on Azerbaijan.

[Homeland]

And if not for the support of Russia, then Armenia would have left the occupied lands of Azerbaijan long ago ...

[1976AG]

Quote: Homeland

And if not for the support of Russia, then Armenia would have left the occupied lands of Azerbaijan long ago ...

And it would allow to slaughter the population of Karabakh.

[Prisoner]

Yes Sho you say ?! No, to take an example from Azerbaijan, right? There people stand for days on end, forging weapons of victory. There, Azerbaijani gunsmiths bowed down for drawings of an unprecedented weapon of retaliation. Do not drive the situation to the point of absurdity with your propaganda materials. It's funny. ps And weapons from Turkey and Israel are not "from abroad"?

[Nikanet]

And what, only Armenian propaganda and chants are in demand here?))

[Jager]

All right, his mini-Napoleon showed up!

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Jager

All right, his mini-Napoleon showed up!

Transcaucasian Fuhrer.

[Prisoner]

As before Erdogan is not convenient. He's aiming for this title. And you are right with a tarpaulin boot and a flower of Turkish dreams.

[Grits]

Quote: Captive

As before Erdogan is not convenient. He's aiming for this title. And you are right with a tarpaulin boot and a flower of Turkish dreams.

Aliyev thinks that he will roll up Armenia and unite with Turkey into one state. And there, you see, Edika will sit up. He already sees himself as a Sultan.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Oquzyurd

"Valiant Azerbaijani army

Laponka. Here's how to soften, so as not to offend too much. Your superiority in manpower is 3 times. In technique ... Even more. If all this is polished with imported fighters and Turks .... We can talk about a general preponderance of about 4-5 times. Not at key points, but along the entire front. Despite the fact that without being drawn into the mountains, you win in logistics ... In key and 1 in 10 is not a problem. Your resources are sufficient for an offensive along the entire front. Armenians stupidly have nothing to parry. Excuse me generously, but I don’t remember right away. Who and where, over the past 40 years, with such a balance of forces, valiantly would have been marking time for almost a month. But so yes, gallant, very gallant, almost heroic

[Clear]

Quote: Lannan Shi

But I don’t remember right away. Who and where, over the past 40 years, with such a balance of forces, valiantly would have been marking time for almost a month. But so yes, gallant, very gallant, almost heroic

What is there to remember , the strongest army in Europe (yes, what is there, ... the entire Galaxy) has been courageously beating cooks, taxi drivers and miners for six years, and now it is heroically holding this front from the north of Ukraine to the Crimea, having come up with a new type of large-scale offensive called "toad jumping", now under the execution of brigadier generals.

[novel66]

brigadier generals

so here they are, who are the toads!

[Revolver]

Quote: Oquzyurd

Karabakh is Azerbaijan!

Yes, roughly like Ukraine Tseevropa, and Donbas Tseukraina. But the people in the LPR do not agree. And why would?

[Tavi]

Quote: Observer2014

Autumn aggravation, it is like this, then winter, and then spring And there is summer and again ..

they have long erased the edges all year round without a lunch break.

[prior]

The case is small, the introduction of "green men" to ensure the safety of the referendum ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: prior

, entering "green men

In Baku?

[prior]

Perhaps, start with Karabakh, and then ...
As Crimea has shown, it is possible and useful to grow in territory.

[paul3390]

Why do we need theirs Karabakh ??? Do we have an acute shortage of Armenians or Azerbaijanis in Russia?

[Ingvar 72]

Crimea showed how to fuck up the rest of Ukraine. The referendum had to be supported both in Kharkiv and in Odessa, and even more so in Mariupol.
Yes, there would be small-town clashes, but the number of casualties would be several times less than the total death toll today.
But "our" authorities were trite to fear, primarily for their assets abroad.
It's a joke about Baku, they don't expect us there, unlike the East of Ukraine in 2014.

[DrEng527]

Quote: Ingvar 72

how to fuck up the rest of Ukraine.

your question is strange

Quote: Ingvar 72

The referendum had to be supported both in Kharkov and in Odessa, and even more so in Mariupol.

well, who prevented them from doing this? If they didn't, then they didn't want to ...

Quote: Ingvar 72

Yes, there would be small-town clashes, but the number of casualties would be several times less than the total death toll today.

do you know the future? happy for you...

Quote: Ingvar 72

we are not expected there, unlike the East of Ukraine in 2014.

and who told you that, that they are waiting or were they waiting?

[Grits]

Quote: prior

Perhaps, start with Karabakh, and then ...
As Crimea has shown, it is possible and useful to grow in territory.

Perhaps, to start growing, it was necessary to start from Donbass. Nearby, close by, has its own Russian land with Russian people under the rule of the Nazis. Maybe you shouldn't look for new territories so far across the mountains, but look through your garden.

[Observer2014]

Quote: prior

The case is small, the introduction of "green men" to ensure the safety of the referendum ...

What kind of referendum? Armenian or Azerbaijani?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: prior

The case is small, the introduction of "green men" to ensure the safety of the referendum ...

What kind of referendum? Armenian or Azerbaijani?

Both at the same time

[dranthqu]

And Turetsky.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: prior

The case is small, the introduction of "green men" to ensure the safety of the referendum ...

What do you mean by green men? Islamists Erdogan, the guards of the Green Revolution of the IRGC or all the same polite people in Green uniforms? It is already crowded there, and you are still pushing. I don't think we should go there, but if you want, go there yourself.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: OrangeBigg

What do you mean by green men?

They will come, you will find out
Everything has its time.

[Nadrub]

Early .... both sides must eat manure to the very top

[Thrifty]

opuonmed-If you are burning with desire, take them to your house, or to your apartment, but Russia already has enough smut both with some and others!

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Thrifty

opuonmed-If you are burning with desire, take them to your house, or to your apartment, but Russia already has enough smut both with some and others!

And who will not be happy
"Kolyma, you are my Kolyma.
The harsh edge of the Russian outskirts ... "

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Thrifty

opuonmed-If you are burning with desire, take them to your house, or to your apartment, but Russia already has enough smut both with some and others!

They already live with us
Both are registered 40 people per hut, and the capital of Armenia in Russia is Sochi Krasnodar Territory, if

[APASUS]

Quote: opuonmed

you can take the nagorny

And make yourself two enemies at once. And given that there is no direct border, we immediately get into trouble

[opuonmed]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: opuonmed

you can take the nagorny

And make yourself two enemies at once. And given that there is no direct border, we immediately get into trouble

yes, I agree, but maybe you can think of something?

[Nadrub]

Of course you have to come up with!
Invented !
Help both sides :) to behave like Americans, pragmatic and cynical!

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Truth

Of course you have to come up with!
Invented !
Help both sides :) to behave like Americans, pragmatic and cynical!

What we are doing now In doing so, expressing concern. The more they kill each other, the better, the faster they will drain bad blood.

[ioan-e]

Quote: opuonmed

you can take the mountainous part of the Russian Federation and open the passage for both Armenians and Azerbaijan and that's all)

Buy a globe of the Caucasus! In order to include Karabakh in the Russian Federation, it is also necessary to include Armenia and Georgia for ground communication, and Azerbaijan - so as not to blather, and we need it?

[prior]

Annex Georgia to North Ossetia, and deport all Georgians to Georgia ...
business then. "Mustachioed" did not turn that way.

[paul3390]

For such a leader, one must be like Comrade Stalin, and not a new one .. But where can we find him? Piece goods, now, alas, they no longer do this. Such people are born once every 1000 years.

[APASUS]

Quote: ioan-e

In order to include Karabakh in the Russian Federation, it is also necessary to include Armenia and Georgia for ground communication, and Azerbaijan - so as not to blather

It is necessary not only to include in the composition, but to take on the provision, feed, drink and maintain, restore industry and social security. What they broke and cursed so hard

[Maz]

A herd of rams always follows the Goats exclusively.

[Rage66]

I mean, make a market there?

[Livonetc]

Aliyev warned about the consequences of recognizing the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh
He had previously demanded the complete return of Karabakh.
His limbs did not grow to the territory of Armenia itself.
So why bash.

[Orange bigg]

At the same time, Aliyev stressed that after the return of the territory and the end of the conflict, the Azerbaijani and Armenian peoples will jointly live in Nagorno-Karabakh, as it happens in other countries. He added that the Azerbaijani people are not the enemy of the Armenian.

The Azerbaijani people just want to live in the land of their ancestors. He has the right to do so. Let them live, and we. But to expel us so that only they can live there is unfair. We can never agree to this

Who is this hypocritical lie designed for? They are hitting Stepanakert with MLRS, you need to understand that the friendship between Armenians and Azerbaijanis is stronger? Let them and we live, but Karabakh is ours only. In short, get out of our lands. That's the whole point of this speech.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Who is this hypocritical lie designed for? They are hitting Stepanakert with MLRS, you need to understand that the friendship between Armenians and Azerbaijanis is stronger? Let them and we live, but Karabakh is ours only. In short, get out of our lands. That's the whole point of this speech.

In all fairness, everyone there is not saints. To some extent I can understand Aliyev who wants to return the lands that he considers his own and wants his people to return there, another question is how the Azerbaijanis will get along with the Armenians there and whether there will be a massacre of the civilian population after the capture of these regions ( provided, of course, that Azerbaijan will resolve the issue by military means). On the other hand, Armenia can be understood, after all, it's a historical homeland after all ... so the question is very complicated, the only thing I don't understand is why for 30 years Armenia has not tried to resolve this issue with Azerbaijan, but has kept the situation frozen, i.e. .e. sooner or later it would have happened (a big war), and if the diplomats and the leadership cannot come to an agreement within such a period of time, then guns come into play.

[Egoza]

Quote: Aleksandr21

To some extent I can understand Aliyev, who wants to return the lands that he considers his own and wants his people to return there.

The trees are green! But Russia does not want to return its lands and its people (these are the Russians, if cho)

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Egoza

The trees are green! But Russia does not want to return its lands and its people (these are the Russians, if cho)

If you hit the return of lands, then you need to recreate the Russian Empire, although there are great doubts that our former territories and the states that are now located on them will want to return. As for Nagorno-Karabakh and the situation around it, these are the problems of Azerbaijan and Armenia, but certainly not ours.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Aleksandr21

another question is to what extent the Azerbaijanis will get along with the Armenians there and whether there will be a massacre of civilians there

They won't get along. Look at the demography of Azerbaijan in terms of national composition. Changes over the past 70 years. Azerbaijanis, whatever they say, get along exclusively with Azerbaijanis. A. Well, yes, I lied a little. Even with the Turks. And the Azerbaijanis do not understand how deep they have gotten themselves in. That they will eventually win, well ... The probability is very high. But it would be better for them to lose. For after after their victory, and what they will arrange in NK, I personally do not see any prospects for Azerbaijan, except to become an unofficial colony of Turkey. They can forget about real independence for decades. If not forever.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Lannan Shi

They won't get along. Look at the demography of Azerbaijan in terms of national composition. Changes over the past 70 years. Azerbaijanis, whatever they say, get along exclusively with Azerbaijanis. A. Well, yes, I lied a little. Even with the Turks. And the Azerbaijanis do not understand how deep they have gotten themselves in. That they will eventually win, well ... The probability is very high. But it would be better for them to lose. For after after their victory, and what they will arrange in NK, I personally do not see any prospects for Azerbaijan, except to become an unofficial colony of Turkey. They can forget about real independence for decades. If not forever.

There is a twofold situation here, if we assume that the Azerbaijanis will lose, then the problem will remain, which means that in 5-10-15 years the situation will repeat itself and the slaughter will begin again. The only option is peacekeepers, but the territory, again, is officially considered to be Azerbaijani, and then only with the consent of Aliyev they can be led .... a vicious circle. Well, there is a clear unwillingness of Armenia to make concessions on Nagorno-Karabakh and those 7 regions that should belong to Azerbaijan, i.e. For about 30 years the situation has stood still and the end at the end of the tunnel is not visible. For Russia, this is definitely a problem, and how to solve it is not clear ... as an option, these 7 regions of Armenia will be exchanged for wide autonomy of the NKR within Azerbaijan with the introduction of our peacekeepers on the border of NKR and Azerbaijan and the consolidation of the special status of the NKR and other features (control and security), it is another matter that neither Azerbaijan nor even more so Armenia is not ready for such concessions to each other.

[Revolver]

Quote: Aleksandr21

wide autonomy of the NKR within Azerbaijan with the introduction of our peacekeepers on the border of the NKR and Azerbaijan

Do you remember how the Georgians treated the Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia in 2008?

[Grits]

Quote: Aleksandr21

but the territory is again officially considered to be Azerbaijani

However, considering that Nagorno-Karabakh, even before the collapse of the USSR, left Az. SSR, and then from the USSR in full accordance with the Constitution and laws of the USSR, and then also declared independence in accordance with all the norms of international law, then not everything is as dashing as they think in Azerbaijan.

[icant007]

Look at the demography of Azerbaijan in terms of national composition. Changes over the past 70 years. Azerbaijanis, whatever they say, get along exclusively with Azerbaijanis.

Yes, such a demography in any national republic of the former Soviet Union. Azerbaijan is still doing well in this regard, compared to some.

[Grits]

Azerbaijanis have once again changed their masters. From Persians to Russians, then to Turks

[DrEng527]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Armenia did not try to resolve this issue with Azerbaijan

and for 30 years has not recognized Karabakh ...

[Oquzyurd]

"He already demands the complete return of Karabakh."
“Refusal of compromise and maximalism (striving to achieve the maximum, not the possible) is the shortest path to the complete destruction of Karabakh and the deterioration of the situation in Armenia,” L. Ter-Petrosyan concretized, what we reject today, in the future we will have to ask, but we will not get it, as has happened more than once in our history. " November 1997.
These are the pancakes. Armenians expelled normal politicians from the political arena, some were shot in parliament, brought the Natsiks to power, they have reached these days. The result.

[poquello]

Quote: Oquzyurd

"He already demands the complete return of Karabakh."
“Refusal of compromise and maximalism (striving to achieve the maximum, not the possible) is the shortest path to the complete destruction of Karabakh and the deterioration of the situation in Armenia,” L. Ter-Petrosyan concretized, what we reject today, in the future we will have to ask, but we will not get it, as has happened more than once in our history. " November 1997.
These are the pancakes. Armenians expelled normal politicians from the political arena, some were shot in parliament, brought the Natsiks to power, they have reached these days. The result.

and in Baku, normal politicians of the type remained))))))))))))))), with the prospect of a conflict with the CSTO, because he will not be able not to attack Armenia

[Grits]

Quote: Oquzyurd

The Armenians expelled normal politicians from the political arena, some were shot in parliament, brought the Natsiks to power, we have come to this day.

Everything is correct. Azerbaijan caught the Armenians at the moment when they turned their ass towards Russia. As they say, they started the war at the right and very convenient moment.
But the Armenians were told (even here, on VO) that they would get on with it, that the Russians would stop tolerating spitting in their direction, turn away and be silent when Baku starts bending them down and will lose Karabakh. The voice of reason was not heard.

[Oquzyurd]

You say everything correctly. I am sure that a little will pass, Russia and Azerbaijan will cooperate much more in all areas, so that it will be an example of friendship and good neighborhood for the entire region. All countries are closely looking at these events and draw conclusions.

[Alex Justice]

Azerbaijan caught the Armenians at the moment when they turned their ass towards Russia. As they say, they started the war at the right and very convenient moment.

Undoubtedly, the main reason for the start of the war. Pashinyan did not even think about it, he lives only for today. I do not see the future of Armenia, surrounded by enemies.

[iouris]

Terrorists will come instead of peacekeepers: here are the "consequences" for you. Coffins will go, a stream of wounded, the population will begin to protest against the war.
As for the territories, when the state "Azerbaijan" was formed, from which state did the territory of Azerbaijan stand out? All the question is to the successor of this state. Why on earth is it not the Russian Federation, but Turkey, the "big brother"? Not so sat down.

[V1er]

Why on earth is it not the Russian Federation, but Turkey, the "big brother"? Not so sat down.

Yes, it's time to tie these games as brothers and stop lisping with everyone.

[K-612-O]

Then the elder brother Iran, Derbent Peter took from the Persians, back in 1724. And A. R. Ts. A. X from the same Persians under Alexander 1 was annexed to the Russian Empire, together with the Azerbaijani khanates.

[Grits]

Quote: K-612-O

A.R. Ts. A. X in the same Persians

I also noticed that the censorship of the VO site does not allow this word

[Orange bigg]

As for the territories, when the state "Azerbaijan" was formed, from which state did the territory of Azerbaijan stand out?

Once upon a time, Iran lost the war to Russia and gave part of Azerbaijan to Russia, the other part remained within Iran. Turkey automatically claims all the Turkic territories. Hence its policy.

[Alien From]

This time Aliyev will squeeze them.

[Kart]

Yes, everything was somehow sluggish. It seems all the same stuck.

[Grits]

Quote: Carte

Yes, everything was somehow sluggish. It seems all the same stuck.

Hardly. they still have a lot of foolishness. iron too. But the Syrian barmaley have not yet entered the war in full. As soon as they catch up in the required quantity, then they will let the tanks in front.

[iouris]

Quote: VictorM

Check out the early Gulistan and later Turkmenchay treaties.

Yeah, right now. I'll just stroke the laces.
Ilkhan Alievich Aliyev is a descendant of the head of the Azerbaijan SSR, a member of the Politburo of the CPSU, or does he trace his ancient lineage from the Sumerians? Did he get his wonderful and free education at the expense of the entire Soviet people or the Turkish people?

[NTD]

Quote: iouris

Yeah, right now. I'll just stroke the laces.

one thing surprises. When Armenians remember their historical roots with very dubious facts, this is normal, but as soon as Azerbaijan speaks about history with a historical document, then wait, we will stroke the laces. Not fair.

[iouris]

Don't act like a bus conductor. For her there are "she" and "they". Differentiate.
The "historical roots" of Armenia are being cut off by the Russian Empire and the USSR. Without them, neither Armenia nor Georgia would have existed. Note that in the Russian Empire, all peoples were equal, and the Russian population was even "more equal than others." What the empire (and not the "Russians") could not achieve, it did not achieve and did not retain (in relation to the territories of Armenia, which went to Turkey). Now "stretch your legs over your clothes." If you can't or don't want to return to a single state, you will die one by one. This applies to all peoples (now "nations") of the former Soviet Union. Farewell.

[NTD]

Quote: iouris

What the empire (and not the "Russians") could not achieve, it did not achieve and did not keep (in relation to the territories of Armenia that were ceded to Turkey).

Stop. here for more details please. in what year did the Turks take the land from the Armenian state?

[Grits]

Quote: MTN

here for more details please. in what year did the Turks take the land from the Armenian state?

Where is Ararat located?

[maktub]

Isn't Heydarovich by chance?

[iouris]

Of course, Ilham Heydarovich. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. Shaitan beguiled.

[maktub]

Yes, okay, what is really there.
It's just that he had his father for a long time, he was in power since the Soviet Union, so he remembered it.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: VictorM

then Russia and Turkey are on the side

Oh how ... When someone knocks on the head, these bad thoughts will immediately disappear (all of Armenia is modern and part of Georgia, well, part of Russia).
In general, the article cries for you: "The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, Article 280.1. Public calls for the implementation of actions aimed at violating the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation"

[poquello]

Quote: VictorM

If we follow this logic, then Russia and Turkey are on the side, and these territories are returning to the current successor of the Qajar State called the Islamic Republic of Iran. By the way, there is the whole modern Armenia and part of Georgia, well, part of Russia.
Check out the early Gulistan and later Turkmenchay treaties.

and where is it?

.. as a result of civil strife [69] between Armenian meliks, for the first time in its history, Nagorno-Karabakh fell under the rule of a Turkic ruler [70] [71]. After these events, from the middle of the XNUMXth century, there has been a massive outflow of the Armenian population from Nagorno-Karabakh, and, conversely, Turkic migrations ..

[Thrifty]

For example, penguins in Antarctica stuttered about recognizing the independence of Karabakh in exchange for recognizing penguins as the dominant species of the Solar System.

[MKPU-115]

"Aliyev warned about the consequences of recognizing the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh" - well, the newly-minted Fuhrer has already begun to threaten everyone.

[Oquzyurd]

You just pointed out the Criminal Code and the Art of the Russian Federation to others. Karabakh is the same territory of Azerbaijan and there are such articles. Somehow your honesty and attachment to the same laws raises great doubts. What kind of selectivity?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Oquzyurd

You just pointed out the Criminal Code and the Art of the Russian Federation to others. Karabakh is the same territory of Azerbaijan and there are such articles. Somehow your honesty and attachment to the same laws raises great doubts. What kind of selectivity?

You flatter yourself. I am for the fact that you would kill each other there as much as possible, LONGER, so that as much as possible bleed each other. Maybe after that you will wiser, only then you can be seated at the negotiating table and you finally come to an agreement.

[askort154]

I do not believe that any country will recognize the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, because in less than an hour we will cut off all diplomatic ties with this country. It is necessary

Are you aiming at the place of the one closest to the Sultan ?! Each new statement is getting cooler and cooler. Initially, I was neutral towards both sides. But as soon as the figure of Erdogan loomed behind Aliyev, I changed my view of their problem.

[Victorm]

Quote: Livonetc

Aliyev warned about the consequences of recognizing the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh
He had previously demanded the complete return of Karabakh.
His limbs did not grow to the territory of Armenia itself.
So why bash.

And where was the claim to the territory of Armenia (formerly the Armenian SSR) announced?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: VictorM

Quote: Livonetc

Aliyev warned about the consequences of recognizing the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh
He had previously demanded the complete return of Karabakh.
His limbs did not grow to the territory of Armenia itself.
So why bash.

And where was the claim to the territory of Armenia (formerly the Armenian SSR) announced?

Dashing trouble began
Appetite comes with eating
And Georgia is already next in line

[Virus-free crown]

Azerbaijan will immediately sever diplomatic relations with any country that has recognized the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh. This was stated by the President of the country Ilham Aliyev in an interview with the Turkish TV channel Haberturk.

Unsubstantiated show-off

If suddenly (let's dream !!! ) The independence of Nagorno-Karabakh is recognized by Russia ... about the recognition of the United States, we will generally tactfully keep silent ... Aliyev will stick his tongue in the place where he is sitting on a chair = one hundred pounds !!!

[Observer2014]

Aliyev warned of the consequences of recognizing the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh

Well, and with whom will Aliyev be the first to break up? Wait, wait

[NTD]

Quote: Observer2014

Well, who will Aliyev be the first to break with? Wait, wait

I would like these to be the French. There will be an excellent reason to throw them out of the OSCE and put more loyal ones to us instead. Although there will not care who will be, the Kremlin decides !!!!

[Ryzhiy A.P.]

In 91, everyone took sovereignty "as much as they wanted" (EBN quote). And xyz with them. Armenians and Azerbaijanis and in the Russian Federation as dung after a bath. So what kind of Chinese drum should you decide with someone? Internal matter - let them drive

[Desperado]

Quote: Crown without virus

Azerbaijan will immediately sever diplomatic relations with any country that has recognized the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh. This was stated by the President of the country Ilham Aliyev in an interview with the Turkish TV channel Haberturk.

Unsubstantiated show-off

If suddenly (let's dream !!! ) The independence of Nagorno-Karabakh is recognized by Russia ... about the recognition of the United States, we will generally tactfully keep silent ... Aliyev will stick his tongue in the place where he is sitting on a chair = one hundred pounds !!!

How pathetic, don't you think? Who will prevent Azerbaijan (with the full support of Turkey) from breaking the dip. relations? Aliyev clearly expressed his position on this issue.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Desperado

How pathetic, don't you think? Who will prevent Azerbaijan (with the full support of Turkey) from breaking the dip. relations? Aliyev clearly expressed his position on this issue.

To break it, it will break it, but how long after that it will last, for example, if Armenia recognizes NK.

[Victorm]

Quote: iouris

Quote: VictorM

Check out the early Gulistan and later Turkmenchay treaties.

Yeah, right now. I'll just stroke the laces.
Ilkhan Alievich Aliyev is a descendant of the head of the Azerbaijan SSR, a member of the Politburo of the CPSU, or does he trace his ancient lineage from the Sumerians? Did he get his wonderful and free education at the expense of the entire Soviet people or the Turkish people?

He received all the benefits at the expense of the Soviet people, of which the Azerbaijani people were a part, but Azerbaijan has never been a freeloader - a subsidized republic in the USSR.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: VictorM

and Azerbaijan has never been a freeloader - a subsidized republic in the USSR.

Are you a brother from the outskirts by any chance?

[Oquzyurd]

You would have cited the statistics of 1991-92))). After perestroika (1985) Azerbaijan was in trouble, because these figures are 1990. Find and give the numbers 1923 -1940-1960-1970 to 1985. Then you will be right. And so , with the 1990 numbers, you are only deceiving people. You cannot deceive yourself, since you are not honest.

[MKPU-115]

We sat on subsidies, pulled from Russia and Belarus, and now we are deceiving you.
You piglets are not grateful, so kill each other there more and longer, and we will throw firewood into this war, so that you would have a sip of blood there, maybe choke.

[Hello from Baku]

Data for 1985, in Azerbaijan produced per capita thousand dollars. 11,0 consumed 7,4
Armenia produced per capita thousand dollars. 12.7 consumed 32.1
And who is the freeloader?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Greetings from Baku

And who is the freeloader?

All of you, both Armenia and Azerbaijan.

[icant007]

and where is Armenia on this list? )

The consumption of the Baltics amuses, given their semi-independent status.

[NTD]

That's just for these words of Pashinyan, he needs to pull out his tongue.

Azerbaijan demanded from the people of Karabakh to immediately surrender five regions out of seven

From the outside, whoever reads, thinks what a poor, indigenous people, who ask to hand over 5 districts. What is the term PEOPLE OF KARABAKH? There is no such people. There are the Armenians of Karabakh. Is it a shame to him to admit that they are 2 states in Azerbaijan demand? Or does he want to prove to the whole world that only the people of Karabakh are autochthonous there and all are newcomers? Lord, how the earth carries such people.

[Pshelts]

Aliyev is serious so far, this is because the Armenians are slowly losing ground, but I still think about it .. Although I don't like Pashinyan's slippery, it is quite possible that he will surrender Karabakh, for the sake of bonuses in the west

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Pshelty

Aliyev is serious so far, this is because the Armenians are slowly losing ground, but I still think about it .. Although I don't like Pashinyan's slippery, it is quite possible that he will surrender Karabakh, for the sake of bonuses in the west

He will dump him in the States when he fulfills his "presidency."

[Desperado]

Quote: MKPU-115

Quote: Desperado

How pathetic, don't you think? Who will prevent Azerbaijan (with the full support of Turkey) from breaking the dip. relations? Aliyev clearly expressed his position on this issue.

To break it, it will break it, but how long after that it will last, for example, if Armenia recognizes NK.

I think it will last as long as necessary. Turkey rules politics in Transcaucasia.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Desperado

Turkey rules politics in Transcaucasia.

Azerbaijan is not the whole of Transcaucasia.
But, in the fact that Turkey rules in Azerbaijan - in this you are absolutely right

[askort154]

Desperado ......I think as much as necessary and will last. Turkey rules politics in Transcaucasia.

Under the control of the British Mi-6! Former British ambassador to Turkey since 2014, Richard Moore, appointed head of MI6 in September. He is an MI6 staffer since 1987. Fluent in Turkish. After the coup attempt in 2016, he supported Erdogan in all his further actions. Erdogan declared him a personal friend, and really spent a lot of time with him. During this time, for some reason, Erdogan began to treat his "friend" Putin colder. Climbed into Syria, Libya, Cyprus and Azeibarjan. It is not difficult to guess why he so boldly rushed to renew his dream - to become a sultan. And why he chose from two "friends", representatives: the KGB and MI-6,
namely MI-6.

[Nadrub]

If this udot knew about the imminent attack, and nothing was done for this ... then he is guilty of the death of many by his inaction. With an ordinary excavator and bulldozer, you can dig up this in the mountains in one year! Such a line of defense is hard to take, especially given the high fighting spirit of the Armenians. And what do we see? Fortifications in the form of a heap of stones, but on the ruble the fences at the dachas are stronger than these defensive structures.

[Grits]

Indeed, all the mountains, especially along the roads, should be dug out with trenches and dotted with pillboxes and dugouts. And no Bayraktyrs would have helped. Armenians stupidly shit everything because of their laziness and slovenliness.

[Ulrich]

"At the same time, Aliyev stressed that after the return of the territory and the end of the conflict, the Azerbaijani and Armenian peoples will jointly live in Nagorno-Karabakh, as it happens in other countries. He added that the Azerbaijani people are not an enemy of the Armenian."

Aha, and therefore in the commercials of the "liberated" villages of more than one local, only empty buildings and deathly silence.

[Nikolai Petrov]

Who is Aliyev? A local satrap who imagines himself to be either a khan or a sultan of a region abandoned by Russia. No more. Will finish badly with his "independence". As well as Soros's lover Pashinyan (not a mistake with a little one). Persimmon traders are still in the database. But the Armenians will be stronger in spirit. And we'll have a look there. The campaign Russia made it clear to the sorlings - with whom to be friends, and who will help. The Turks will not fit into the 13th war with Russia - the guts are thin.

[nikolaj1703]

These "fragments" of the Great RUSSIAN Empire cannot understand that they will live all the time in wars because of their ambition. A country with a population of 10-15 million people will not be able to live in the modern world, either it will be swallowed up or torn to pieces.

[Ulrich]

:D
At a glance - Finland, Norway, Ireland, Portugal, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Denmark, Hungary .... and this is only in Europe.

[icant007]

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At a glance - Finland, Norway, Ireland, Portugal, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Denmark, Hungary .... and this is only in Europe.

Invalid comparison. These countries do not have Karabakh and are not under blockade.
Integrated into a single economic space.
You'd better give an example with the former Yugoslav republics.


However, Europe is also facing difficult times.
Especially if Erdogan launches the same migrants)

[dmmyak40]

Here it is more appropriate to speak not about the size of the population, but about the history of statehood, i.e. about traditions and the system of legal relations. How many live in the same Denmark, and how many in Kurdistan. And at the exit ...

[Grits]

Quote: Ulrih

At a glance - Finland, Norway, Ireland, Portugal, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Denmark, Hungary .... and this is only in Europe.

And all (except sympathetic Finland) are NATO members. It looks like it will be hard to defend alone alone.

[Victorm]

Quote: MKPU-115

Quote: VictorM

and Azerbaijan has never been a freeloader - a subsidized republic in the USSR.

Are you a brother from the outskirts by any chance?

At least you yourself understood what you posted, well, out of curiosity, at least you looked? ...
Illiteracy takes on the scale of a national tragedy ... we do not know arithmetic (it is not higher mathematics), knowledge of our own language has been reduced to obscenities, without it, even top officials cannot express themselves, and not just grooms and bottles in the trash, history.

No, I'm not from the "outskirts". Not only Ukrainians or the ambassadors of Japan and China in Russia are fluent in Russian, but also Azerbaijanis.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: VictorM

At least you yourself understood what you posted, well, out of curiosity, at least you looked? ...

Azerbaijan: production 8,3; consumption 16,7

[MKPU-115]

Quote: VictorM

At least you yourself understood what you posted, well, out of curiosity, at least you looked? ...

And what's wrong: Azerbaijan produced 8.3 PER CAPITA, consumption 16,7

Quote: VictorM

Illiteracy takes on the scale of a national tragedy ... arithmetic (it is not higher mathematics)

And now, smart guy, multiply the GDP of the RSFSR 17,5 by the number of the population of the RSFSR (150 mln.), Well, look how many got 7 mln. Azerbaijan by multiplying by 16,7
Rough: Azerbaijan earned 58 ml of dollars, took 116 ml. dollars from Russia and Belarus.
I agree that the Georgian SSR and the Armenian SSR were just robbers against the background of the Azerbaijan SSR.

[fa2998]

Quote: Vol4ara

Severing deep relations with Azeris

Well, horror! The severance of relations with Azerbaijan! How are we going to live further? The threat from Aliyev is like a death sentence.

[Victorm]

Quote: Nikolai Petrov

Who is Aliyev? A local satrap who imagines himself to be either a khan or a sultan of a region abandoned by Russia. No more.

Ilham Aliyev, before him, his father Heydar Aliyev, were somewhere authoritarian leaders, but their circumstances were worse and harsher, and more complicated than, for example, the same "unfading" Putin. Putin got the problem of Chechnya after coming to power on a scale of Russia, a microscopic problem, but exaggerated by mediocrity, betrayal and venality. And both Aliyevs received the problem of the occupied territories, which is 20% of the country's territory in general and a million refugees, which is 1/7 of the population. And what do we see as a result? In richer Russia, the bulk of the population lives no better than in Azerbaijan, there is no gap proportional to the wealth and power of Russia.
But unlike Putin and his entourage, neither they, nor their entourage and relatives transgressed some basic things and ideas, never stooped to many things that the population of the former Soviet republics, including Russia, faced and faced.
Everything is learned in comparison, so there is no need to la-la.

I will tell you more, if in the 80s, instead of Misha America, Heydar Aliyev moved forward, we would still live in one single state and believe me, not the weakest and the poorest. But they even preferred a traitor, if only not an Azeri Muslim. If Nazarbayev had been the leader of the same story, the country would have not only survived, but also flourished.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: VictorM

Heydar Aliyev would move forward

Then he would have surrendered not only Germany and all the conquests of the USSR in Europe as a Georgian Shevardnadze with a humpbacked, but also the Caspian Sea to Turkey with Iran, the Kuriles to the Japanese, Siberia to the Chinese, and Kamchatka to the United States.
They got used to (a bad word of gay people) living at the expense of Russia, take a sip of independence, just don't choke on blood.

[dmmyak40]

I was in a hairdresser, an Armenian worker asked what I think about the conflict in Karabakh. He said that there will be peace only when there is neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan, but only the Russian Empire (well, or another form), and in Transcaucasia there will be a Transcaucasian province headed by a Russian governor-general.
She pursed her lips: "God forbid!" I replied: "Then fight yourself and don't look in the direction of Russia.

[Radical]

Azerbaijan will immediately sever diplomatic relations with any country that has recognized the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh. This was stated by the President of the country Ilham Aliyev in an interview with the Turkish TV channel Haberturk.

This is blackmail, at the same time a threat, it is curious - will a citizen who is called the VGK swallow?

[Cottager452]

What is there to pour from empty to empty ... as the hegemon says, so be it.