"March of Pride" in Belarus: Opposition intends to bring security officials to their knees

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"March of Pride" in Belarus: Opposition intends to bring security officials to their knees

More than 580 people were detained after protests in the cities of Belarus on Sunday, Tikhanovskaya accuses the Belarusian authorities of yet another violence against the citizens of the country, and the opposition intends to bring the security officials to their knees, as it happened in Ukraine.

On Sunday, October 11, the Belarusian opposition held a "March of Pride" in 12 cities of Belarus. In Minsk, the security forces were able to partially prevent this, the militia on Sunday was transferred to an "enhanced regime" of service in connection with calls for unauthorized protest actions.



Protesters in Minsk tried to organize themselves into a column, but all attempts were suppressed by the security forces, which led to clashes. Particularly violent clashes were noted in the area of ​​the Pushkinskaya metro station, where at some point several thousand protesters managed to organize. The security forces carried out harsh detentions of the protesters, who were dispersed using water cannons, stun grenades and pepper gas.

Clashes in the center of Minsk continued until evening, after which the protest action continued in the format of the so-called chains of solidarity. Protesters lined the roads with white-red-white flags.

The leader of the Belarusian opposition Svetlana Tikhanovskaya has already reacted to the dispersal of the "March of Pride", saying that the Belarusian authorities have begun a new stage of violence.

Hundreds of detainees, mass beatings, blood - this is the only response they are capable of. For two months we paid a very terrible price for our freedom. But there are more of us, and we will achieve our goal. You yourself know what to do

- she wrote on the Telegram channel.

Another large oppositional Belarusian Telegram channel "Brain Belarus", commenting on the actions of the security forces, called upon to bring the police officers to their knees, as was the case in Ukraine. In addition, the security officials were promised all kinds of reprisals after the opposition came to power.

(...) it will be very interesting to remember their happy faces when they kneel and beg for mercy from the Belarusian people, as it was in Ukraine after the victory of the people. (...) We will never forgive them, this is impossible to forgive ... Each of them will be condemned in accordance with the law. Houses and apartments bought on credit will be confiscated, the money received from the occupation regime for the war with its people will be taken away and used to restore the country

- said in the message of the Telegram channel.
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  1. +6
    12 October 2020 12: 06
    "Ambitious" on the march.
    1. Hey
      +25
      12 October 2020 12: 14
      "Ambitious" on the march.

      not ... "Gonorrhea"
      1. +66
        12 October 2020 12: 39
        Most of all, I like the fact that they find then almost everyone who has not just "rock the boat" on the security forces or violated the order, but even those who simply attended these "events". There are already criminal cases that have ended in real terms, and hundreds of administrative offices with capacious fines. Dismissals from work of state employees who like to fool around a little on weekends, I also consider it justified.
        This is the only way to eradicate this colored democratic infection on the Belarusian land!
        1. -62
          12 October 2020 13: 02
          Quote: Thrall
          Most of all, I like the fact that they find then almost everyone who has not just "rock the boat" on the security forces or violated the order, but even those who simply attended these "events". There are already criminal cases that have ended in real terms, and hundreds of administrative offices with capacious fines. Dismissals from work of state employees who like to fool around a little on weekends, I also consider it justified.
          This is the only way to eradicate this colored democratic infection on the Belarusian land!

          Lukashenka has perked up a bit after Putin's support, but it won't be long. Belarusians, unlike Russians, do not want to endure
          1. +4
            12 October 2020 13: 13
            Quote: Pilat2009
            Belarusians, unlike Russians, do not want to endure

            But what about the monument to Belarusian tolerance "non-pissing boy" (he suffers)? smile
          2. +32
            12 October 2020 13: 24
            Quote: Pilat2009
            Belarusians, unlike Russians, do not want to endure

            What do they not want to endure? Delays in going to the EU for lace panties?
            1. +36
              12 October 2020 14: 40
              Quote: Kuroneko
              What do they not want to endure? Delays in going to the EU for lace panties

              By the way, here recently inadvertently watched a few minutes of the American TV series "Desperate Housewives". And I got on a very interesting scene as one of the heroines teaches math with her daughter and cannot explain to her how to count what. And their hired cleaning lady from Romania comes to her aid, easily explaining to the girl the solution to the problem. When the heroine asked how she could explain everything so easily. The cleaning lady says she's a Ph.D.
              In my opinion, it is a very indicative example for all who seek to make the "European choice" and "vorovateli".
          3. +37
            12 October 2020 13: 41
            Quote: Pilat2009
            they don't want to endure Russians


            Do they want to hate a normal life? it also happens. Ends usually deplorably See Syria, Ukraine.
            1. +26
              12 October 2020 14: 27
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Do they want to hate a normal life? it also happens. Ends usually deplorably See Syria, Ukraine.

              And the name for the revolution has already been drawn - "the revolution of pride". What the "dignity" has led - Belarusians to look over the fence.
              Now wait for the Georgian snipers, and for the "opposition" to collect "dead souls" and form their own "heavenly hundred" - without the blood of sacred victims, the "revolution" is illegitimate. About that in all State Department manuals it is written ...
              1. +3
                12 October 2020 14: 29
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                "pride revolution". To what "dignity" has led - Belarusians to look through the fence.
                Now wait for the Georgian snipers, and for the "opposition" to collect "dead souls" and form their own "heavenly hundred" - without the blood of sacred victims, the "revolution" is illegitimate. About that in all State Department manuals it is written ...


                The performers are lousy. I thought it would be sharper and more cheerful ...
                1. +12
                  12 October 2020 14: 45
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  The performers are lousy. I thought it would be sharper and more cheerful ...

                  Well, what they are ... It was smooth on the State Department paper, but they forgot about the Ukrainian ravines.
                  It is not the first and not the last time that American ears stick out, because they are also lazy - they do not change the training manual, they work according to the same template all over the world.
                  I do not understand why the Washington "Methodists" follow the same pattern to spank revolutions in Egypt, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, and now in Belarus? Different countries, different people ... No, damn it - like a professor from the department of Marxist-Leninist philosophy - "From sekh to sekh. Not a step to the left, not a step to the right, strictly along the general line." Creatively, gentlemen, it is necessary. Creatively. And the ears will stick out less striped, and with less jambs performers.

                  And to count how many times, at least in the last 6 years, ukro-performers screwed up - so no fingers will be enough. At the construction battalion company. They got the money, stole it, and you can do it not even according to the training manual, but as God puts it on your soul. Or not at all.

                  And in Belarus, the goal setting is initially incorrect. And the methods are stupid. Is the Belarusian "opposition" so small that there is nobody smarter and more charismatic than Tikhanovskaya? Klitschko was appointed mayor of Kuev. Would they make it a symbol of the Maidan and be promoted to the presidency? So the whole world would laugh. And here they did not hesitate to mold the "savior of the nation" from a stupid housewife.
                  1. -1
                    12 October 2020 15: 11
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    Different countries, different people ...


                    different problems .. different opportunities to protest ..
                  2. +14
                    12 October 2020 15: 19
                    So in the end, in Ukraine, the clown was chosen))) Now it's no laughing matter
                  3. +3
                    12 October 2020 15: 25
                    Not the last time American ears stick out, because they are also lazy - they do not change the training manual, they work according to the same template all over the world.
                    I do not understand why the Washington "Methodists" follow the same pattern to spank revolutions in Egypt, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, and now in Belarus? Different countries, different people ... No, damn it - like a professor from the department of Marxist-Leninist philosophy - "From sekh to sekh. Not a step to the left, not a step to the right, strictly along the general line." Creatively, gentlemen, it is necessary. Creatively.
                    Well, in general, yes, it was worth the authorities to show that they still have eggs all gone ...
                  4. Mwg
                    -2
                    13 October 2020 04: 14
                    The old methods are the most reliable. Those behind the State Department are very conservative people)))
                    1. +2
                      13 October 2020 09: 43
                      Quote: MVG
                      The old methods are the most reliable. Those behind the State Department are very conservative people)))

                      Here conservatism borders on mental disorder. As they wrote their manuals for Latin America and Southeast Asia in the 50s and 60s, they have been blown over them, word for word, all over the world for 60 years. Look at Guatemala, Nicaragua and Honduras in 1954 - why isn't Nagorno-Karabakh today? Is Paris-68 very different from Kiev-2014?
                      The only change is that with the collapse of the USSR, the natural counterweight disappeared and a change was made to the manuals. One thing. The pro-American forces and the Americans themselves have ceased to hide their dirty deeds and pretend to be honest in any way. They act extremely arrogantly and openly. The old man Brzezinski did not dream of such a thing 40 years ago, when America began financing the barmaley in Pak ...
                      1. Mwg
                        +2
                        13 October 2020 17: 34
                        I agree with you. Only now, "How they composed their training manuals for Latin America and Southeast Asia in the 50-60s" is not entirely true - according to this training manual, all "bourgeois revolutions" were arranged and the independence of the United States was also obtained according to this training manual through the organization of riots in London ... And even deeper, if you take it, the Khorezm Khanate was destroyed. I suspect that Rome was also killed according to the same scheme, because in the theme of the "persecution of Christians in Rome", the resistance is suspiciously organized.
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              1. +13
                12 October 2020 17: 06
                What is this opus? What does it mean deprived of emergency situations? Private property? Seriously? And going abroad? Maybe under a criminal person, or a loan? Weapon? Maybe we should not? I can hardly imagine how Minsk would look ... Like Los Angeles, probably ... and not in terms of architecture. I did not understand about the "rich population". From the word at all. Is it being robbed? Or see the first subtract emergency? Then I just lost the thread. Some kind of "letter from a Somali boy." But in the final, everything fell into place. Of course Russia is to blame. For some reason, I'm almost sure that the little man is a freelancer.
                1. -16
                  12 October 2020 17: 30
                  Quote: sleeve
                  What is this opus? What does it mean deprived of emergency situations? Private property? Seriously? And going abroad? Maybe under a criminal person, or a loan? Weapon? Maybe we should not? I can hardly imagine how Minsk would look ... Like Los Angeles, probably ... and not in terms of architecture. I did not understand about the "rich population". From the word at all. Is it being robbed? Or see the first subtract emergency? Then I just lost the thread. Some kind of "letter from a Somali boy." But in the final, everything fell into place. Of course Russia is to blame. For some reason, I'm almost sure that the little man is a freelancer.

                  This opus is a copied message from the LAN discord with a familiar Belarusian. Who survives by running his private and personal business with his father. He also wrote that what you read above. And Belarus is not much different from Russia in this regard. Therefore, every Russian will also be familiar with his words. The conditions and standard of living in the Russian Federation does not differ much from the Belarusian one.
                  1. -1
                    12 October 2020 17: 41
                    Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                    Who survives by running his private and personal business with his father

                    Business? Yes, he lives poorly.
                    1. -5
                      13 October 2020 11: 53
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                      Who survives by running his private and personal business with his father

                      Business? Yes, he lives poorly.

                      Yes. He thinks that he lives poorly. He cannot afford much that he wants and is forced to choose where to direct the tortured funds.
                      1. +3
                        13 October 2020 12: 55
                        Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                        Can't afford much that she wants

                        What is this? A villa on the French Riviera and Swiss bank accounts?
                      2. +1
                        14 October 2020 12: 11
                        But these "suffering freedom" I wonder how many percent of the real Central Europeans have a pitchfork on the Cote d'Azur, and accounts in a Swiss bank?
                      3. 0
                        14 October 2020 16: 06
                        Quote: Cyril G ...
                        know how many percent of real Central Europeans have

                        Nope, they don't even think about that.
                      4. -1
                        14 October 2020 11: 55
                        Yes. He thinks that he lives poorly. He cannot afford much that he wants and is forced to choose where to direct the tortured funds.

                        What a news. Who would have thought that this could happen to a person in his life. Who would doubt that Lukashenka is personally to blame for this.

                        Yesterday I took my child to training, while I was waiting to hear a conversation of one of the mothers on the phone with a daughter of 12-14 years old. About replacing a broken phone "Lisa, explain to me why you need such an expensive phone. No, you don't need a phone for 300 euros, 200 maximum, I also want a lot of things, Porsche Caen for example, but I can't afford it." Since the prices are in euros, you can confidently assume that this is happening in a free democratic country (of those in which part of the population has a "foreign passport"), note that it is more prosperous than Belarus. Perhaps it's time for Liza to go and fight the riot police too? You can immediately with Belorussky.
                  2. +5
                    12 October 2020 17: 48
                    Sorry. Based on the text, I don't see most of the problems in Russia from the word at all, especially about "emergency". Specifically with business. Here, do you know you need to move and have a fair amount of luck and intuition. Well, if not, then honestly in the "mercenaries". And it’s natural to look for the guilty, not to blame yourself. And what does “freedom”, “state-prison”, “violence against the individual” have to do with it?
                    1. -4
                      13 October 2020 12: 03
                      Quote: sleeve
                      Sorry. Based on the text, I don't see most of the problems in Russia from the word at all, especially about "emergency". Specifically with business. Here, do you know you need to move and have a fair amount of luck and intuition. Well, if not, then honestly in the "mercenaries". And it’s natural to look for the guilty, not to blame yourself. And what does “freedom”, “state-prison”, “violence against the individual” have to do with it?

                      This is when a person is not allowed to do everything that she wants, and live the way she wants and it is more pleasant for her. And the state brazenly and shamelessly interferes, especially in personal life and space.
                      1. +2
                        14 October 2020 12: 08
                        And if a person wants to consume orders of magnitude more than he earns? Consuming heavy synthetics? Killing old people for fun? Fuck five year olds?
                        And most of you are just like that ..
                      2. 0
                        15 October 2020 09: 25
                        And if the "personality" thinks that someone else should pay taxes, the personality wants to deceive others, impose on others indecency, spit on others, not do nichrome and get paid for it ...
                        The state should not control such "handsome" thoughtful?) Very strange explanations ... raise more questions
              2. +14
                12 October 2020 17: 48
                Hospadya! How you, disposable bots, got bored with the same nonsense! What "freedom"? What were you missing there? Old tales about the main thing ...
                1. +6
                  12 October 2020 21: 22
                  Quote: Cottodraton
                  What "freedom"? What were you missing there?

                  They lack the freedom to exploit others.
                  And they cannot declare this openly, so they bathe in their own lies and anger.
                  1. -3
                    13 October 2020 12: 06
                    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                    Quote: Cottodraton
                    What "freedom"? What were you missing there?

                    They lack the freedom to exploit others.
                    And they cannot declare this openly, so they bathe in their own lies and anger.

                    No. The freedom to do whatever you want. Live as you want, go wherever you want, without government interference in these processes.
                    1. +4
                      13 October 2020 12: 58
                      Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                      The freedom to do whatever you want.

                      And what exactly?
                      Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                      go wherever you want, without government interference in these processes

                      That is, the fact that movements between states are controlled all over the world is news to you?
                2. -4
                  13 October 2020 12: 03
                  Quote: Cottodraton
                  Hospadya! How you, disposable bots, got bored with the same nonsense! What "freedom"? What were you missing there? Old tales about the main thing ...

                  I am not a bot and I have my own opinion on everything)
              3. +5
                12 October 2020 18: 50
                Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                Do you call this normal life? And is it worth fighting for such a life and getting up breast, so that it would not be like in Ukraine, Syria, etc.? Obviously, it was scary and nothing more.


                Yes, I call it normal life. You are not starving, YOU HAVE AS A RULE OF HOUSING, you are not easily killed on the street and not forced as in the USA. If you are from the Republic of Belarus, then you have no idea what was in Russia in the 90s .... Yes, and how hard life is for you, right, I was born in Minsk and left to serve there. I never came back. However, my relatives remained there, I often visited Minsk and have an idea ...
                As for the horror story, they did not try to turn on the moscow that in our new wonderful post-socialist world, war is a harsh reality and not somewhere out there macaques cut each other ...
                1. +7
                  12 October 2020 21: 29
                  Cyril G ..., yes, they perfectly see all the "charms" of Ukraine, but they associate themselves not with hard workers, not with peasants, not with pensioners, but with thieves-nouveau riches.
                  1. +3
                    12 October 2020 21: 57
                    The nouveau riche will become a truly insignificant part, with admission to big money. A little more people driving to the west will be able to settle there more or less decently ...
                    The rest I do not envy.
                    1. +3
                      13 October 2020 08: 17
                      That and that.
                      And to explain to a person what he does not want to believe, considering himself "special" (and for young people who have no life experience, excessive ambitions are rampant) is almost Sisyphean labor.
                  2. -6
                    13 October 2020 12: 07
                    Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                    Cyril G ..., yes, they perfectly see all the "charms" of Ukraine, but they associate themselves not with hard workers, not with peasants, not with pensioners, but with thieves-nouveau riches.

                    Some nonsense.
                2. -6
                  13 October 2020 12: 05
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                  Do you call this normal life? And is it worth fighting for such a life and getting up breast, so that it would not be like in Ukraine, Syria, etc.? Obviously, it was scary and nothing more.


                  Yes, I call it normal life. You are not starving, YOU HAVE AS A RULE OF HOUSING, you are not easily killed on the street and not forced as in the USA. If you are from the Republic of Belarus, then you have no idea what was in Russia in the 90s .... Yes, and how hard life is for you, right, I was born in Minsk and left to serve there. I never came back. However, my relatives remained there, I often visited Minsk and have an idea ...
                  As for the horror story, they did not try to turn on the moscow that in our new wonderful post-socialist world, war is a harsh reality and not somewhere out there macaques cut each other ...

                  Housing is not even a guarantee of a good life. You can have shelter and starve. For any benefits in the Republic of Belarus and no. According to Lukashenka, they are parasites of the same type. And he himself is rich and the question is, on what basis and at the expense of what? People in power should not be richer than the common people.
                  1. +4
                    13 October 2020 12: 12
                    Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                    People in power should not be richer than the common people.


                    Tell that to the Anglo-Saxon or European elites that they shouldn't be richer than the common people, they won't even notice you, uh ...
                    And in general, they decided 30 years ago that capitalism is sweeter and there is no need to feed Moscow - now eat the slops with ladles and do not buzz ...

                    The weapon!


                    Ela, why do you need a weapon ah? For example, I have a couple of barrels. And I bought it in Russia completely free. I shoot at the banks occasionally. Why do you need it? Although we have enough absurdities in the LAW ON WEAPONS.

                    For example, I would generally forbid the sale of smoothbore other than professional hunters. And to other citizens - if you want a barrel, take a rifled carbine. The trunk will be in the filing cabinet. And then the barrel after killing with a charge of grapeshot is possible only by circumstantial evidence
                    1. 0
                      13 October 2020 14: 58
                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      And then the barrel after killing with a charge of grapeshot is possible only by circumstantial evidence


                      Damn the keyboard lifted up - I wanted to say that identification of a smooth barrel after the fact of murder is possible only by circumstantial evidence, such as the imprint of the striker on the sleeve, if there is one, of course, and of the batch of gunpowder. Mustache. That is why I do not understand what the authorities are thinking.
                3. 0
                  14 October 2020 12: 01
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                  Do you call this normal life? And is it worth fighting for such a life and getting up breast, so that it would not be like in Ukraine, Syria, etc.? Obviously, it was scary and nothing more.


                  Yes, I call it normal life. You are not starving, YOU HAVE AS A RULE OF HOUSING, you are not easily killed on the street and not forced as in the USA. If you are from the Republic of Belarus, then you have no idea what was in Russia in the 90s .... Yes, and how hard life is for you, right, I was born in Minsk and left to serve there. I never came back. However, my relatives remained there, I often visited Minsk and have an idea ...
                  As for the horror story, they did not try to turn on the moscow that in our new wonderful post-socialist world, war is a harsh reality and not somewhere out there macaques cut each other ...

                  You are beguiled, this is slavery, not life. And in the 90s in Belarus it was the same, no foam is needed.
                  1. +1
                    14 October 2020 12: 15
                    Quote: Gost2012
                    You are beguiled, this is slavery, not life.


                    Another inhabitant of the sewer ditch got out, am I a close friend to you? Are you starving? Apparently not. Since there is money to write nonsense in the internet. Are you juggling? Apparently not either. What do you personally need personally? Jumping just like that on the square of the square?
                    1. 0
                      14 October 2020 14: 04
                      Quote: Cyril G ...
                      Quote: Gost2012
                      You are beguiled, this is slavery, not life.


                      Another inhabitant of the sewer ditch got out, am I a close friend to you? Are you starving? Apparently not. Since there is money to write nonsense in the internet. Are you juggling? Apparently not either. What do you personally need personally? Jumping just like that on the square of the square?

                      That would not be election fraud I need. And you are not my friend, you are nobody to me.
                      1. -1
                        14 October 2020 14: 07
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        And you are not my friend, you are nobody to me.


                        Then why bother me? I'm not saying that you are not even an empty space, but the value is purely negative, since you are trying to be rude to unfamiliar people. So now, if you please, follow to the northwest in jumps, let's say ..
                      2. +1
                        14 October 2020 14: 16
                        So, calling it an inhabitant of the gutter was a decent conversation, and my posts rudeness laughing
                        Cyril, you, not owning the information, the situation, throw mud at almost the entire people, and consider yourself a normal person? You see what federal channels are pouring into your head and take it for true events. Soloviev and Armenian radio in your head.
                      3. +1
                        17 October 2020 22: 10
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        That would not be election fraud I need. And you are not my friend, you are nobody to me.

                        Ok. And in what way do you see guarantees that there will be no election fraud under the aegis of the Troesis?
                        In their corrupt and false assurances?
              4. +2
                12 October 2020 21: 21
                I was not allowed emergency

                Why was he not allowed?
                weapon

                Like almost everywhere in Europe.
                electoral right, right to vote

                Not the same thing? well, let's say there are problems
                aesthetics

                What was he not allowed? Was personal ethics allowed or not?
                rich population

                Wasn't the rich population allowed? What language is it written in? Can a rich population be allowed? or the patient complains that they didn’t do it for him?
                being safe on the street

                There are objectively problems with this now.
                free travel abroad

                What? And I here somehow observe the Belarusians abroad. They somehow left.
                low prices

                Not allowed again? I'll tell you something else at the same time low prices and a rich population does not exist.
                I cannot find free funds to buy a new car / video card / apartment right now

                An expensive surprise, but almost no one in the world can. The entire gold billion buys new cars on credit. Yes, he has access to loans.
                banks overstate rates because of this

                Yes, not because of this, but because you live in a country with an unstable economy. Unfortunately.
                and I can't even take a development loan

                maybe because the development plan is so-so?
                this is a banal survival

                No, this is not survival. Not an economic paradise and a land of opportunity, but not survival either.

                And most importantly, none of the problems described is solved by demonstrations. Proof - look at Ukraine.
                1. -2
                  13 October 2020 12: 09
                  Quote: alexmach
                  I was not allowed emergency

                  Why was he not allowed?
                  weapon

                  Like almost everywhere in Europe.
                  electoral right, right to vote

                  Not the same thing? well, let's say there are problems
                  aesthetics

                  What was he not allowed? Was personal ethics allowed or not?
                  rich population

                  Wasn't the rich population allowed? What language is it written in? Can a rich population be allowed? or the patient complains that they didn’t do it for him?
                  being safe on the street

                  There are objectively problems with this now.
                  free travel abroad

                  What? And I here somehow observe the Belarusians abroad. They somehow left.
                  low prices

                  Not allowed again? I'll tell you something else at the same time low prices and a rich population does not exist.
                  I cannot find free funds to buy a new car / video card / apartment right now

                  An expensive surprise, but almost no one in the world can. The entire gold billion buys new cars on credit. Yes, he has access to loans.
                  banks overstate rates because of this

                  Yes, not because of this, but because you live in a country with an unstable economy. Unfortunately.
                  and I can't even take a development loan

                  maybe because the development plan is so-so?
                  this is a banal survival

                  No, this is not survival. Not an economic paradise and a land of opportunity, but not survival either.

                  And most importantly, none of the problems described is solved by demonstrations. Proof - look at Ukraine.

                  Ukraine again. Yes, you do not need to cite her as an example. There were different processes as well as goals.

                  But if the state does not in any way listen to the opinion of the people and does nothing to increase rights and freedoms and raise the standard of living, but itself is getting fat, then what option and method remains?
                  1. +2
                    13 October 2020 12: 24
                    Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                    Ukraine again. Yes, you do not need to cite her as an example. There were different processes as well as goals.


                    You need El, because the ending of these processes that you have in Ukraine will be XNUMX% the same. And what is happening is quite identical to itself.
                  2. +4
                    13 October 2020 14: 40
                    Ukraine again. Yes, you do not need to cite her as an example. There were different processes as well as goals.

                    It is necessary, it is necessary. The same goals were there as your complainer. There were objective problems, perhaps more abruptly than in Belarus, and the only solution that they came up with was this Maidan. With the slogan "Well, now we'll live." Lived it up. It is foolish to think that changing one person at the top will bring you a rich population and cheap loans that your respondent is crying about. This will definitely not happen, just as it did not happen in Ukraine.
                    For the same reasons.
              5. +1
                12 October 2020 22: 02
                Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                Do you call this normal life?

                How familiar ...
                According to the same manuals, local "liberals drown" in the VO ...
                laughing
                1. -2
                  13 October 2020 12: 09
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                  Do you call this normal life?

                  How familiar ...
                  According to the same manuals, local "liberals drown" in the VO ...
                  laughing

                  I don't suffer from any training manuals. I have my own opinion and opinion on everything.
                  1. 0
                    13 October 2020 12: 14
                    Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                    Quote: stalkerwalker
                    Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                    Do you call this normal life?

                    How familiar ...
                    According to the same manuals, local "liberals drown" in the VO ...


                    I don't suffer from any training manuals. I have my own opinion and opinion on everything

                    Tell Zelensky about this, so that he would tell Tikhanovskaya.
                    The opinion of the hamsters is not taken into account. Even if the latter consider themselves to be fighting bull terriers.
                  2. +1
                    13 October 2020 13: 37
                    Well, what is he "own"? A normally reasoning person will not go out into the street with a stick and unformed goals. And all the more it will not "harness" for it from the outside.
                  3. +2
                    13 October 2020 14: 48
                    I don't suffer from any training manuals. I have my own opinion and opinion on everything.

                    Which, judging by his naivety, is still too early for you to have.
              6. Mwg
                -1
                13 October 2020 04: 19
                "And when Belarusians complain that the current government does not allow them much and does not give them any chances, no opportunities, no freedoms, etc., is this a normal life?" - yeah, here in the "dancing" program a girl from Belarus complained that the "strip" is clamped down in that country, and she promotes it no matter what. This is the correct way of clamping down because the corruption of the population is one of the ways to destroy the nation. So confuse if there is anyone who wants to go to Nigeria (as an option)
                1. -2
                  13 October 2020 12: 13
                  Quote: MVG
                  "And when Belarusians complain that the current government does not allow them much and does not give them any chances, no opportunities, no freedoms, etc., is this a normal life?" - yeah, here in the "dancing" program a girl from Belarus complained that the "strip" is clamped down in that country, and she promotes it no matter what. This is the correct way of clamping down because the corruption of the population is one of the ways to destroy the nation. So confuse if there is anyone who wants to go to Nigeria (as an option)

                  What's wrong with a strip? What is corruption? Deterioration without any strips and other things happens, and you know how? Due to sex not leading to procreation and increasing demographics. But in fact, this is all garbage. Well, if the state, out of its own moral and ethical considerations, prohibits what concerns freedom and the right to choose, including strip, then this is a gross interference in the private life of society and every person. And the strip is just an excuse. The same goes for sex shops. They exist in the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, but in the countries of the Caucasus they are not, due to stereotypes and the backwardness of society, as well as infringed rights and freedoms. And how is a sex shop different from a strip? Nothing, if you think with such logic.
                  1. +2
                    13 October 2020 13: 38
                    Yes, the strip has nothing to do with it. However, as is the "backwardness" of society in its absence.
                  2. Mwg
                    +1
                    13 October 2020 17: 17
                    "And how is a sex shop different from a strip?" - publicity, honey, publicity. Sex shop - intimate, strip - public window dressing
                    1. -1
                      13 October 2020 21: 25
                      Quote: MVG
                      "And how is a sex shop different from a strip?" - publicity, honey, publicity. Sex shop - intimate, strip - public window dressing

                      Strip is an easier form of prostitution but in the form of a dance. There is not much difference here.
                  3. Mwg
                    +2
                    13 October 2020 17: 27
                    And there is another nuance: when sex workers take over in society, then they will dictate their morality to the rest of society. And the morality of the society will be a mixture of morals of thugs, prostitutes and pimps, sexual minorities and frankly insane installers-performers. Such a simple hard worker will quickly be reduced to the state of a slave because such individuals have a hypertrophied ego (psychology has proved this). Here is the country and the kapets ...
                    1. -2
                      13 October 2020 21: 28
                      Quote: MVG
                      And there is another nuance: when sex workers take over in society, then they will dictate their morality to the rest of society. And the morality of the society will be a mixture of morals of thugs, prostitutes and pimps, sexual minorities and frankly insane installers-performers. Such a simple hard worker will quickly be reduced to the state of a slave because such individuals have a hypertrophied ego (psychology has proved this). Here is the country and the kapets ...

                      In fact, everything is relative. How and what should be, how it is correct, no one knows. Therefore, no one should get into such things and impose their point of view, morality, rules, etc., from any side. Every person has the right to his own life and personal, regardless of its form, type and manifestation, even if it seems to someone absurd and unnatural. And the opinion of society and public opinion should be neither an example, nor an argument, nor a limiter, nor a beacon, nor anything else. Smart and independent people always do not care about them and they do not focus on them. But only on yourself and your head, etc. For everything is relative and there is no objective truth or truth, there is no norm.
                      1. +1
                        13 October 2020 22: 09
                        Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                        Smart and independent people always do not care about them and they do not focus on them. But only on yourself and your head, etc.

                        Bandits or what?
                      2. -2
                        13 October 2020 22: 23
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                        Smart and independent people always do not care about them and they do not focus on them. But only on yourself and your head, etc.

                        Bandits or what?

                        No. Those who are not the gray mass of society and do not live by herd instincts. Each person should not and should not be obliged to copy the model of society and meet it. You must always meet yourself, and not society.
                      3. +1
                        14 October 2020 06: 17
                        Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                        Each person should not and should not be obliged to copy the model of society and comply with it. You must always meet yourself, and not society.

                        An old song from the 90s, then thundered from all radio stations:
                        Hiding in your backs you've lost your features
                        Conclusions are simple separate from the crowd
                        In fact, it turns out a criminal lawlessness, we saw, we know.
                      4. Mwg
                        +4
                        14 October 2020 03: 49
                        "Everyone has the right ..." is part of the liberal principle. Do you know another? "the right ends where the other's right begins." And who will establish this divide if no third party intervenes? Will they agree? Yeah, right now. All contracting parties always go as a result to a fight. Practice, girl, she is not a sugary fairy tale that is poured into the ears of shlimazls.
                        All who consider themselves intelligent and independent are always cannon fodder in the chase of a liberal carrot: at first they are exponentially admired to initiate them into action, and then they calmly allow them to become sacred victims. From time immemorial.
                      5. 0
                        14 October 2020 12: 20
                        Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                        Every person has the right to his own life and personal, regardless of its form, type and manifestation, even if it seems to someone absurd and unnatural.


                        Within the framework of the rules of conduct in society and laws, and if you do not interfere with other members of society to live peacefully. For example, you like to eat excrement in public! Not well, but cho. Freedom zhezh. But I can't look at it. That is, you are violating my rights. Dot.
                        If you want to eat them - eat at home by shutting the window. Is this clear?
                2. 0
                  13 October 2020 12: 26
                  Quote: MVG
                  that "strip" is clamped in that country, and she promotes it no matter what.

                  Who is stopping her from going on tour to Warsaw or Moscow?
                  1. Mwg
                    +1
                    13 October 2020 17: 22
                    So they drive and complain. The question is not that this is not welcomed in Belarus. The question is, WHO are these fighters with Old Man: strippers and others like them. And what kind of "freedom" are they going to build? Freedom of prostitutes and pimps? The freedom of the worker is completely different and it is far from the fact that the freedom of the worker will find a place in the freedom of sex workers.
                    1. 0
                      13 October 2020 19: 04
                      Quote: MVG
                      And what kind of "freedom" are they going to build? Freedom of prostitutes and pimps?


                      Duc is clear what ...

                      The freedom of the worker is completely different and it is far from the fact that the freedom of the worker will find a place in


                      It looked disgusting. Very. A negligible percentage of fat flowed around, but I rode in a Mersey, the rest sat without salaries for six months. Insignificant. In 1999, I could either rent an apartment or eat for a salary. So that's it. However, we also have a generation that suffers from the fact that parents cannot buy them an iPhone every quarter.
              7. +7
                13 October 2020 10: 05
                Quote: Ela Myaushkina
                I cannot find free funds to buy a new car / video card / apartment right now, because my compatriots are poor and oppressed,

                Show me a country in a world where rich and unrepressed citizens "right now" buy a car / apartment between buying a pound of bacon and a pack of cigarettes. In one check. laughing And try to take out a loan for development in Germany, France or the "most democratic" one - a visit to a proctologist will seem more reasonable, harmless and appropriate for obtaining a loan than the "credit history research" that their banks conduct. Thank God, I didn’t have to - but I personally know people both "from our former", and from the locals who tried. I'd rather be "undemocratic" without loans and outside investments (in fact, the assignment of a share of the business), on my own.

                You say normal life? [...] Obviously, it was scary and nothing more.
                From the first to the last word - "exhale into your pants" 17-year-old Belarusian "opposition Erka", who has read a lot of American manuals, happily jumping for lace panties in the EU. I'll see how she sings when mom and dad stop receiving their salaries at the factory, and grandparents stop receiving pensions. Then, for sure, he won't buy a video card "just like that".
            3. -5
              12 October 2020 19: 06
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              See Syria, Ukraine

              SM Bulgaria, Poland, Serbia
              1. +3
                12 October 2020 19: 29
                So look at Bulgaria and Serbia .... Poland is a different question - it is now an outpost of "civilization", but you don't even have the chance to be Bulgaria ...
          4. +25
            12 October 2020 13: 42
            There is no need to speak for all Belarusians here.
          5. -15
            12 October 2020 13: 52
            Ask what happened on Saturday in Khabarovsk.
            1. +1
              12 October 2020 14: 04
              What? Someone someone else ... in a European way?
              No one in Russia is interested in what the crazy brainwashed horses are doing there, and what they "had" there.
            2. +22
              12 October 2020 14: 18
              Quote: YOUR
              Ask what happened on Saturday in Khabarovsk.

              What was there? I saw only about three dozen (Yamykhurgals - unmarried women and men without women), who trampled the lawn and set up tents on it. They did not pay attention to the polite warnings of the police and violated the order in a demonstrative and provocative manner. For which they got it. And then hysterically, fussily rushed back and forth and filmed everything on phones and cameras, and stamped their feet on the police officers standing to the side.
              Or are you talking about something else?
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            5. +10
              12 October 2020 14: 23
              What actually happened? They broke (a little late, but still) a raging gopota (within the limits of the Law, by the way), accustomed to living on a "contrabass" with China ... But screeching - how much .... And "these" who received what they expected? On the "maidan buns"?
            6. +3
              12 October 2020 17: 09
              I'm sorry, but still. Why is the "pea jacket torn" in Khabarovsk? Main thought? Can't investigate crimes? What are they striving for?
              1. +1
                13 October 2020 04: 23
                I know what they are striving for, but they are outraged that people do not care about the opinion of people, Furgal is so. And Degtyarev is some kind of ... well, I don't know what to call him, he is doing everything to outrage people and raise them to a protest movement, some kind of provocateur. Either he declares that he will resolve issues in the baths, then the main merit is the allocation of money to the zoo, etc.
                I don’t know how in reality, although I live not so far away, but most of the people are opposed to Degtyarev. And what will happen after the elections if it turns out that he won them, I just don't want to think.
                And by the way. When the first was not even a rally, but a protest march, I was in Khabarovsk. As if not a resident of Khabarovsk, it was impossible to understand what was happening, a dense column of people was walking along the street, no shouts or slogans, they just walk. On the sidewalks, they suddenly descend and join the column. It was strange.
            7. 0
              12 October 2020 17: 49
              Yes, no one cares about the fact that there are local "brothers" stir up
          6. +15
            12 October 2020 14: 04
            always amazed at the people expressing the opinion of the whole nation. Have you interviewed all Belarusians by name?
          7. +10
            12 October 2020 14: 05
            This is the Polish litter NeXtA chirping for you? nu-nu))
          8. +2
            12 October 2020 14: 05
            terpily these are the ones who listen to the fantasies of all sorts of crooks every 5 years in the elections and then they are tolerated until the next elections, normal people and business develop under any system and are able to negotiate
            1. -2
              13 October 2020 07: 56
              Quote: Rubi0
              terpily these are the ones who listen to the fantasies of all sorts of crooks every 5 years in the elections and then they are tolerated until the next elections, normal people and business develop under any system and are able to negotiate

              Terpily are those who always vote for, even if it affects their fate, these are those who voted first for Gorbachev, then for Yeltsin. And now they are angrily stigmatized. They are stigmatized. For them, Putin is an uncontested leader, because 140 a million-strong country is unable, in their opinion, to offer a sane president. sorry, but this speaks of the complete degradation of the nation. And who brought it to degradation? Putin has been ruling longer than Brezhnev, and you are all nodding at Gorbachev and Yeltsin
              1. -3
                13 October 2020 08: 19
                while the leader suits the majority
              2. +2
                13 October 2020 08: 50
                What's in your head, Putin Yeltsin Gorbachev horses people, how is this generally connected to my comment? Are you all waiting for someone to come and take care of your tender ass? Uncle must plow ... plow
                1. -1
                  13 October 2020 09: 46
                  Quote: Rubi0
                  What's in your head, Putin Yeltsin Gorbachev horses people, how is this generally connected to my comment? Are you all waiting for someone to come and take care of your tender ass? Uncle must plow ... plow

                  You tell this to the workers of Roscosmos in Samara, who plow for 30 thousand, if the authorities cannot supply and control the director of the corporation, what to talk about at all? The old workers will leave and x..r, in general, something will fly for you
                  1. -1
                    13 October 2020 11: 26
                    Well, okay, if Roskosmoss turns into an analogue of NASA, which simply distributes funds between private companies, then there it is dear. and if you are not one of these hard workers, then I don’t understand at all why you are worried about them, go work better, do something useful
              3. +2
                13 October 2020 09: 53
                Quote: Pilat2009
                sorry, but this speaks of the complete degradation of the nation.


                Or about the inability to personally understand what is happening ... Tell me, did something change from the change of the sign in the person of the President in the United States until recently?
                One thing is clear to me that the ruling class rules. If you put Pupkin it will be worse, because his supporters will first have to plunder until it crawls out of the throat and other holes and then they will not stop ...
                I have something to compare with ...
        2. -3
          12 October 2020 16: 44
          Quote: Thrall
          Most of all, I like the fact that they find then almost everyone who has not just "rock the boat" on the security forces or violated the order, but even those who simply attended these "events".

          And yet, these are your fellow citizens. Let the lost ones, in your understanding, but still ... And the ease with which you are ready to give them up for the slaughter speaks very eloquently about you. Today you like that those who simply "visited" are detained, tomorrow those who were standing next to you, and the day after tomorrow those who wrote about it.
          It will not be possible to eradicate the "colored democratic infection". You, in Belarus, already have hundreds of thousands of people offended by the regime. The split of society has occurred and you will not do anything about it.
          Separately, I will note for you that I am not against Lukashenko, and not for Tikhanovskaya and those like her.
          1. +1
            12 October 2020 17: 42
            Quote: Hyperion
            And the ease with which you are ready to give them up for the slaughter speaks very eloquently about you. Today you like that those who simply "visited" are being detained, tomorrow those who were standing next to you, and the day after tomorrow those who wrote about it.

            Nobody pulls them there by force.
        3. -1
          12 October 2020 22: 12
          But there are more of us, and we will achieve our goal. You yourself know what to do
          - wrote Tikhanovskaya in the Telegram channel.

          Leading from the Internet is the modern reality of "revolutionary" democrats?
          Is it weak to reach the barricades with flags? Or scary?
          Quote: Thrall
          then they find almost everyone who has not just "rock the boat" or violated order, but even those who simply attended these "events". There are already criminal cases that have ended in real terms, and hundreds of administrative offices with capacious fines.
        4. +1
          13 October 2020 06: 40
          Quote: Thrall
          Most of all, I like the fact that they find then almost everyone who has not just "rock the boat" on the security forces or violated the order, but even those who simply attended these "events". There are already criminal cases that have ended in real terms, and hundreds of administrative offices with capacious fines. Dismissals from work of state employees who like to fool around a little on weekends, I also consider it justified.

          Well, yes, the state has enough resources for this, and to investigate cases of murder, torture and illegal detention there is neither people nor time for this ... we are crushing the uprising ... there are bodies, but there are no guilty ones ... people are shot right on camera and made disabled ... and the Ministry of Internal Affairs is investigating (not a single filed case for 2 months of protests ...) ... everything is fine everything is justified ... I think when you find yourself in the same situation there will be the same who will say that everything is justified ... they are doing everything right ... maybe then you will understand something ...
          1. 0
            13 October 2020 08: 08
            Quote: exalibor
            a to investigate cases of murder, torture and illegal detention

            which exist in the propaganda war against the state.
            1. 0
              13 October 2020 12: 47
              Quote: Dart2027
              which exist in the propaganda war against the state.

              there are real cases of murder by employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of citizens - they were buried ... no cases were opened ... there is no reason ... although the video when they were shot at shows that nothing was done to the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... one was shot in the back of the head ... of course ... all this is a propaganda war ... you can continue to speak out in the same way ... until it touched you personally ... the parents of the victim in Gomel also voted for Lukashenko ... but after what happened, you understand, their views radically changed ... Some of the people have disappeared altogether and are not even looked for despite the statements about the disappearance of people ... according to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they went on vacation or to work in Russia or Europe and did not say anything to anyone ... although they all disappeared together at the same time 9- August 10 ... (baby talk ... but the Ministry of Internal Affairs thinks that this is normal)
              1. 0
                13 October 2020 12: 57
                Quote: exalibor
                although on video

                Can you link to the video?
                Quote: exalibor
                you can continue to speak out in the same way ... until it touches you personally

                Yes, yes, my favorite song.
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                  1. 0
                    14 October 2020 08: 31
                    Quote: exalibor
                    https://courier-media.com/articles/poyavilos_video_ubiistva_zhitelya_bresta_militsiei_vo_vremya_protestov-121653.html

                    I don’t know about the full video, but nothing at all is clear on this, and not only me, but the commentator makes assumptions several times.
                    Quote: exalibor
                    Minsk ... the man just approached the riot police ...

                    Riot policemen are standing, they throw something at them (the video clearly shows a throw at 18-19 seconds), they shoot back, the question is - why did he go there at all? Reminds of Gene Sharp's recommendation to disarm the security forces with ostentatious peace.
                    1. +1
                      14 October 2020 10: 59
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Riot policemen are standing, they throw something at them (the video clearly shows a throw at 18-19 seconds), they shoot back, the question is - why did he go there at all? Reminds of Gene Sharp's recommendation to disarm the security forces with ostentatious peace.

                      an interesting approach ... why did he go? ... why did the riot police shoot a man who even had nothing in his hands and did not carry any threat to them .... ???
                      I partially agree about the first video .. but I watched videos where a man was shot in Brest ... there is no time to honestly look ... but if you don’t find it yourself, I’ll look ... if you’re interested
                      1. 0
                        14 October 2020 11: 46
                        Quote: exalibor
                        interesting approach ... why did you go?

                        I do not know of a single mentally and mentally complete person who will behave in this way. If during street riots, instead of going as far as possible, someone starts to ask for trouble, then this is his problem.
                        Quote: exalibor
                        who even had nothing in his hands and did not carry any threat to them

                        And of course they know what he could have with him.
                      2. 0
                        14 October 2020 14: 18
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        I do not know of a single mentally and mentally complete person who will behave in this way. If during street riots, instead of going as far as possible, someone starts to ask for trouble, then this is his problem.

                        Well, as you can see, there were 300 thousand such people all over Belarus ... I understand that according to your theory, they are all mentally unhealthy?

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And of course they know what he could have with him.

                        it might not have happened ... they don't know this but they shoot at him ... an interesting approach ... let them start shooting at everyone who moves along the streets, they might have something too ...
                      3. +2
                        14 October 2020 16: 24
                        Quote: exalibor
                        Well, as you can see, there were 300 thousand such people all over Belarus ...
                        The population of Belarus is 9,5 million people, that is, 3,3%, which is somehow not enough, even if we take into account the children.
                        Quote: exalibor
                        I understand that according to your theory they are all mentally ill
                        Not necessarily mentally
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        mentally and mentally a full-fledged person
                        most of them have a problem with this, although the psyche also plays a role. In the most democratic country in the world, this is considered a mental disorder http://ttolk.ru/?p=10382
                        Quote: exalibor
                        let them start shooting at everyone who moves through the streets

                        In some cases, this is the only way out.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        If during street riots, instead of going as far as possible, someone starts to ask for trouble, then this is his problem.

                        Quote: exalibor
                        what do you need even more intelligible? Presidential candidates who have a program and transparent elections are being released from the KGB detention center ...
                        About transparency of elections is it under the leadership of whom?
                        Quote: exalibor
                        well, regardless of your attitude to the national policy of the Bolsheviks, the flag was developed on the territory of the Russian Empire ...
                        those who sought to destroy it.
                        Quote: exalibor
                        the original chase flags were created in the 16th century ...
                        And what then was Belarus?
                        Quote: exalibor
                        Yes, I’m not saying that Belarusians as a nation were ... maybe there was none ... whoever didn’t stomp on our territory ... so this is a real venegrette of peoples ... which so happened that it is historically closer to Russia ... I don't see anything wrong with that ... but nevertheless we had some history of our own without the Russian Empire, and what is the point of denying this, I don’t understand? and I see no reason to oppose it in some negative sense against Russia ...
                        And tore the shirt on his chest for "elections" in favor of those who are openly kept by the Poles and the company.
          2. 0
            15 October 2020 20: 16
            Thrall is such a provocateur. Therefore, it is impossible to react to him as a normal person, but maybe the AHL pays him for such comments. I read the comments of the conditional "Russians" and I think that the fraternal peoples of Russia, Ukrainians, it is better to drive them into camps beyond the Urals, so as not to booze. , from such a policy of Russia, you have already lost Belarus. And we hoped so much for unification with Russia. Now, as the card falls, your rulers looked in Luka's mouth for too long. Buchte further brothers and Luke podmahayte. The flag is in your handsYou Russians are once again betraying the Russians. This time in Belarus.
        5. +1
          13 October 2020 14: 24
          You Thrall probably live in some kind of virtual world. If until August 9 the Belarusians were a population within the borders, then thanks to the AHL they are rapidly becoming a PEOPLE. Watch and listen to the semi-official Belarusian media. Yes, the AHL, alone, did more for the Nazis than they all together taken since 1991. And yes, the Belarusians will never enter into any union with Russia now. And Agl has been rejoicing in recent months. Pity both ordinary people and ordinary policemen. Meat ...
          1. -2
            13 October 2020 15: 21
            Quote: baltiksi
            If until August 9 the Belarusians were a population within the borders, then thanks to the AHL they are rapidly becoming a PEOPLE

            Well yes. Something reminds me of it ... But for sure, they shouted the same thing in Ukraine.
          2. 0
            14 October 2020 12: 25
            Quote: baltiksi
            , then thanks to the AHL they are rapidly becoming a PEOPLE.


            Oops, familiar sounds !!! Where have I heard that. Last time they didn't, and this time they won't. And by the way, Ukraine has become, uh, more than one ...
        6. -1
          14 October 2020 11: 55
          Quote: Thrall
          ...
          This is the only way to eradicate this colored democratic infection on the Belarusian land!

          This is the only way to end conversations about brotherhood. In August 2020, the Russian Federation betrayed the Belarusian people, when everything calms down - cooperation may remain, but forget about brotherhood. I, a former putinoid and cotton wool, who considered Moscow the capital of my Motherland, and Minsk - the capital of my small Motherland, now I am left without my former Motherland, and I consider the Russians a hostile people.
          Forget us as brothers. No matter how events unfold, since August 2020 the Republic of Belarus has been forever lost for the Russian Federation, and Vladimir Putin in August did more for this than all the Nazis, together with the AHL and Makei, for all the years of the existence of the Republic of Belarus. And this error is already incorrigible.
          1. 0
            15 October 2020 20: 29
            To the guest. I read the comments and I think that in Russia there are still adequate or all trolls on the content of the AHL. The impression is that the Russians only watch the official channels of the Republic of Belarus. Well then, the flag is in your hands. Look here Bye, for every day. Yes, the authorities in Belarus are not ashamed of anything, because Vova Putin gave the go-ahead for this. IF YOU are satisfied with this, we are not. And all this talk about pro-Western channels there and so on. Yes, bullshit is all. The more you - "Russians" believe this gypsy Luka, the sooner you will be left without friends at all. You put things in order. When will you have a Russian government? and be silent in a rag. And also here they crucify, we are like the Great Nation. Until you show an example, how should it be according to Conscience and Justice, who will follow you. Analyze your Government, are there Russians in general? Here is the same ...
      2. -2
        12 October 2020 14: 18
        Quote: MUD
        not ... "Gonorrhea"

        That's right, we get it.
    2. +5
      12 October 2020 12: 38
      I don’t understand my father. I warned you once, two, three, but several months have passed since the elections. Why did ALL the participants in road blocking, rallies calling for the removal of power, Internet wars and other guys who could become a support for the Maidan in the future not go to the felling site with a tag in their teeth for treason? It will play out like this.
      1. +13
        12 October 2020 12: 52
        So the organizers are over the hill, they are not in danger. But the control channels should be blocked.
      2. Maz
        +17
        12 October 2020 12: 53
        https://t.me/zheltyeslivy/6629 вот на этом ресурсе постоянно публикуются МВД БР видео этих "борцов", как они потом каются и ноют в кабинете у следователя и дознавателя, как их находят..., Нашли и того что старика избил, за замечание и бкб флаге, и того что флаг Белоруссии сорвал с супера , а потом древком избил пенсионера, что сделал замечание, и тех орлов, что угрожали омоновцам в интернете нашли, и плакали однозначно. Ой, нас черт попутал. Дайте время, пока выписывают штрафы. Но уже и сажают. Просто много обманутых, а мы ж не звери европейские - свой народ газом , дубьем, да в наручники на колени ставить. Вот самых отьявленных переловим - остальные сами сообразят шо почем.
        1. +14
          12 October 2020 13: 04
          Quote: Maz
          There are simply many deceived, and we are not European beasts - our people are gassed, with a club, and put in handcuffs on their knees. Here are the most notorious overfishing - the rest will figure out how much.

          And in a month, a year, two, as soon as the opportunity arises, they will immediately take up the old ... This pity has ruined more than one state. Remember who, how and why managed to destroy our own Empire at the time. Having pity 500 people today, there is a risk of getting 100-200 thousand corpses in the civil war tomorrow.
      3. -1
        14 October 2020 12: 08
        Quote: oleg123219307
        I don’t understand my father. I warned you once, two, three, but several months have passed since the elections. Why did ALL the participants in road blocking, rallies calling for the removal of power, Internet wars and other guys who could become a support for the Maidan in the future not go to the felling site with a tag in their teeth for treason? It will play out like this.


        Because he only has riot police, and he staggers in places. And against - the people. He did not have 80%, he had at least 20%, so he is not able to do anything. He lost the elections, usurped the power and keeps it by force. People do not want war and blood, but they do not want it either. He will leave anyway, it's already a matter of time.
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          14 October 2020 13: 40
          Quote: Gost2012
          Because he only has riot police, and he staggers in places. And against - the people. He did not have 80%, he had at least 20%, so he is not able to do anything. He lost the elections, usurped the power and keeps it by force. People do not want war and blood, but they do not want it either. He will leave anyway, it's already a matter of time.

          We will all leave one day. But for another 5 years under the leadership of the dad, I'm sure.
          1. 0
            14 October 2020 14: 07
            Quote: oleg123219307
            Quote: Gost2012
            Because he only has riot police, and he staggers in places. And against - the people. He did not have 80%, he had at least 20%, so he is not able to do anything. He lost the elections, usurped the power and keeps it by force. People do not want war and blood, but they do not want it either. He will leave anyway, it's already a matter of time.

            We will all leave one day. But for another 5 years under the leadership of the dad, I'm sure.

            I think there won't be any 5 years, everything will sooner happen. But time will tell. And he is not our dad.
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              14 October 2020 14: 20
              Quote: Gost2012
              I think there won't be any 5 years, everything will sooner happen. But time will tell. And he is not our dad.

              I have not yet had a chance to communicate with the participants in the events. If it's not difficult, tell us, what did he do to you? From the outside it seems like a country like a country. Before these events, we jokingly set him up as an example of how to govern, not like our oligarchs. What happened then?
              1. 0
                14 October 2020 15: 22
                People are very tired of him, since 2010 he has definitely not gained the majority. Before the elections, he committed lawlessness, obstructed in every possible way, and then completely jailed all candidates, Tikhanovskaya managed to submit signatures to the CEC instead of her arrested husband. The authorities decided that the housewife was not scary and allowed her. People lost patience (Belarusians lost patience!) A protest vote took place - according to the data that we managed to record, he lost miserably to Tikhanovskaya in the elections. He declared a victory of 80,2%, people took to the streets. In the first three days, almost 7000 were detained, many were severely beaten, and several were killed. The injured were taken by ambulances and their injuries were recorded. After that, the protest became irreversible. This is a stupidly evil dictator, all we have is not thanks, it is in spite of him. The way people see him in the Russian Federation is a big mistake.
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                  14 October 2020 15: 41
                  Quote: Gost2012
                  People are very tired of him, since 2010 he has definitely not gained the majority. Before the elections, he committed lawlessness, obstructed in every possible way, and then completely jailed all candidates, Tikhanovskaya managed to submit signatures to the CEC instead of her arrested husband. The authorities decided that the housewife was not scary and allowed her. People lost patience (Belarusians lost patience!) A protest vote took place - according to the data that we managed to record, he lost miserably to Tikhanovskaya in the elections. He declared a victory of 80,2%, people took to the streets. In the first three days, almost 7000 were detained, many were severely beaten, and several were killed. The injured were taken by ambulances and their injuries were recorded. After that, the protest became irreversible. This is a stupidly evil dictator, all we have is not thanks, it is in spite of him. The way people see him in the Russian Federation is a big mistake.

                  And besides fatigue, and the events of recent months, what's the problem? The economy seems to be normal, there are no oligarchs and three million officials, the corruption is moderate, they were friends with us and the West ... What went wrong?
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                    14 October 2020 16: 20
                    Quote: oleg123219307

                    And besides fatigue, and the events of recent months, what's the problem? The economy seems to be normal, there are no oligarchs and three million officials, the corruption is moderate, they were friends with us and the West ... What went wrong?

                    But where did they get the idea that the economy is normal, there is no corruption and oligarchs? The country is stupidly cut into a couple of dozen names, if there is anyone's interest, the judicial system does not work. And the main corrupt official on the throne protects. We were friends with you for the loot. I personally would be friends anyway, but after August ...
                    Imagine that you find out that Putin turned out to be the real owner of the country's main assets, you go to the elections, you see that everyone votes against him, you see evidence of fraud, go out with all the people, and he breaks you over your knee and says - I don't care, the country I won't give it to you. And cripples, shoots, jails without guilt. So ask yourself what went wrong.
                    And at the same time, imagine that the Republic of Belarus is nearby unconditionally instantly recognizes the elections, without looking at anything, and is ready to send police officers to suppress them. So you will understand our ashchushcheniya laughing
                    1. +1
                      14 October 2020 16: 28
                      I see, thanks for the clarification. Since the root causes are still economic, then a lot becomes clearer to me. As for the second part, I am an imperialist. I believe that when a country has a master - a king, a president, an emperor, it is not important for whom the country is a personal fiefdom, and who, accordingly, is ready to break everyone for it. And the fact that he is not chosen, and he does what he wants - well, do not care. I do not consider myself a cook who can run the state. It is not the sweetest voice that should rule, but the strongest. democracy in my bad way. So here we have different views.
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                        14 October 2020 16: 34
                        Kings - they are different. You and the king are now relatively lucky. Imagine if the king is rotten, cynical and unprincipled at the root.
                        We are very peaceful, patient, and this is evident from the protests - to this day only one shop window in Minsk has been broken, and the head of the GUBOPiK smashed when people were being dragged out of the cafe. For this, there are elections, when the people no longer want their king, and that would be without blood. And he made a mistake here too.
                      2. 0
                        14 October 2020 16: 43
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        Kings - they are different. You and the king are now relatively lucky. Imagine if the king is rotten, cynical and unprincipled at the root.
                        We are very peaceful, patient, and this is evident from the protests - to this day only one shop window in Minsk has been broken, and the head of the GUBOPiK smashed when people were being dragged out of the cafe. For this, there are elections, when the people no longer want their king, and that would be without blood. And he made a mistake here too.

                        That is the difference between a tsar and a president. Whether you like the king or not, bear with it. But both here and you are not tsars, unfortunately or fortunately I do not know. The king would drown your protests in blood. Just by shooting all the participants. And from the point of view of stability, he would be right. But now there are different times, different customs, different values. In the end, this is your country, your leadership and your life, and you live it. I'm not an advisor here.
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                        15 October 2020 11: 11
                        + I agree that it has historically developed in our country and it has been proven many times over that the country's political course depends on the Person in power. In Western democracies, as soon as this was eliminated and the president or prime minister is just a representative of big business who actually runs the country.
      4. -1
        15 October 2020 20: 34
        You will go to a logging site because you are so used to it for so many years. It's a shame to read such comments, and then you Oleg will scare your children with prison. We don't want to live in such a country. But you are a traitor to the Motherland, because you do not fight for the Russian State, we are Russian people ...
        1. 0
          15 October 2020 21: 41
          Quote: baltiksi
          You will go to a logging site because you are so used to it for so many years. It's a shame to read such comments, and then you Oleg will scare your children with prison. We don't want to live in such a country. But you are a traitor to the Motherland, because you do not fight for the Russian State, we are Russian people ...
          You know, I was polite and wrote in Russian that it was not for me to teach you how to live. But you called me a traitor to the Motherland. For what? As for me, I'm not a traitor here.
          Traitors to the Motherland, all those who, having betrayed the Motherland, broke away and decided to live independently, shoving all the debts, troubles and problems of the USSR onto us. You didn't have to work off the debts of the USSR with your hump. You didn't have to be responsible for the safety of half the world when there was nothing to eat. You didn't have to resolve issues with Chechnya. Your houses were not blown up and schools were seized. You all sat on your stubs - the republics, ate both our and Western aid, and laughed at the stupid Muscovites. So who are the traitors to the Motherland - am I advocating the revival of the Empire under a strong hand, or you, who with your own hands condoned the collapse and did not lift a finger to us, who took on all the debts, obligations and problems to help? And now you are also stigmatizing us by organizing anti-Russian revolutions with the money of our enemies? Reading this, I am very, very sorry that our leadership respects you and your rights above their own honor. On the mind, it would have been worth taking away all that wasted for a long time, and the gentlemen-seekers of "creative freedom" to demonstrate what happens to the enemies of the people. This is my opinion about all those residents of the former republics that teach us to live to be honest.
        2. 0
          15 October 2020 22: 06
          Quote: baltiksi
          You will go to a logging site because you are so used to it for so many years. It's a shame to read such comments, and then you Oleg will scare your children with prison. We don't want to live in such a country. But you are a traitor to the Motherland, because you do not fight for the Russian State, we are Russian people ...

          My answer above was a little misleading, I confused you with the previous commentator, sorry. And what exactly did not suit you in my position? If possible specifically.
  2. +12
    12 October 2020 12: 13
    If I am not mistaken, the harvesting of cranberries has begun in Belarus now, I think all detainees should be sent to harvest, occupational therapy in the fresh air perfectly clears the brain!
    1. +13
      12 October 2020 12: 27
      It is very sad that with the collapse of the USSR there was no opportunity to send all these protestors to Siberian "sanatoriums" for felling. Here in Belarus there are no such wonderful, I would say, health-improving conditions.
      1. +6
        12 October 2020 13: 41
        It is very sad that with the collapse of the USSR there was no opportunity to send all these protestors to Siberian "sanatoriums" for felling.
        Well, why did you disappear? We have a visa-free regime, like, please send us. laughing And there are not enough workers, especially there. You can also roll felt boots and sew mittens.
        1. 0
          12 October 2020 14: 36
          Well, why did you disappear? We have a visa-free regime, like, please send us.

          Please don't, we have enough of our own) There are still many forests in Belarus)
        2. +1
          12 October 2020 17: 17
          We have a visa-free regime, like, please send us.

          So they would have sent it .. What is there ... But, despite the visa-free regime, the penitentiary systems are different .... Sadness ... In addition to the lack of labor, you have so much hungry gnat there ...
          And again, I would like to note that rolling boots and sewing mittens is only and exclusively for good behavior and for ZK who are firmly on the path of correction.
      2. +1
        12 October 2020 17: 52
        In Siberia, we can't get it for nothing)
        1. 0
          12 October 2020 19: 32
          Quote: Cottodraton
          In Siberia, we can't get it for nothing)

          The intelligentsia was exiled to Siberia. Ulyanov / Lenin / Shushenskoye, Stalin / Dzhugashvili / Surukhansk ... The wives of the Decembrists went to Siberia for their husbands. So only Kolyma ...
    2. 0
      12 October 2020 13: 10
      They will only eat and steal it laughing
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  3. +16
    12 October 2020 12: 14
    The word "Opposition" in the title should be enclosed in quotation marks.
    1. -2
      12 October 2020 19: 42
      Quote: Sergey39
      The word "Opposition" in the title should be enclosed in quotation marks.

      I am tormented by vague doubts that the word "opposition" rhymes well with "position in the Kama Sutra" ... recourse
      1. -1
        13 October 2020 12: 21
        The new posture of the Kamasutra is the "opposition position".
      2. 0
        14 October 2020 16: 38
        By the way, you are talking about a very large number of people, about the majority of our people. And what do you think, will the Belarusians be considered Russian brothers now? I assure you that what is pouring from the federal channels is not the truth. The people did not choose him. He did not win this election.
  4. +26
    12 October 2020 12: 17
    I'm wondering if the authorities are accused of violence.
    And 500 people blocking roads is not violence?
    1. +9
      12 October 2020 12: 36
      Because of them, the ambulance will not arrive on time for someone. This is attempted murder.
      1. -1
        13 October 2020 07: 56
        Quote: Herman 4223
        Because of them, the ambulance will not arrive on time for someone. This is attempted murder.

        the ambulance is just passing by calmly ... there are videos where the protesters calmly let the ambulance pass and it almost does not slow down ... people disperse in advance ... so no need to carry bullshit ...
        1. 0
          13 October 2020 10: 05
          They go out with the flags of Nazi collaborators, they themselves do not know it, and someone may specifically act in the interests of US policy to break relations with Russia. Every fourth Belarusian died in the war, and they spit on the graves of their grandmothers and grandfathers, leaving with crane-white rags; These people cannot be treated with respect.
          1. +1
            13 October 2020 12: 33
            Quote: Herman 4223
            They go out with the flags of Nazi collaborators, they themselves do not know it, and someone may specifically act in the interests of US policy to break relations with Russia. Every fourth Belarusian died in the war, and they spit on the graves of their grandmothers and grandfathers, leaving with crane-white rags; These people cannot be treated with respect.

            enough nonsense to carry ... the flags are to blame! under the Russian tricolor, people were also killed during the Great Patriotic War, but you don’t spit on him for some reason, but I understand that you look at him with pride ...
            1. -1
              13 October 2020 16: 28
              The tricolor was originally the national Russian flag, and the Vlasovites did not fight with it; they had other symbols.
              If people are so obsessed that they have no respect for their not so distant ancestors, then who will respect them or listen to them?
              No, these people are just consumables in someone else's game. Something tells me that it will not do without blood in Belarus and this crowd of fools will be consumed as a sacred sacrifice.
              I don't like Lukashenka either, he slows down the union state, but for some reason people don't come out under such slogans.
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                1. -1
                  14 October 2020 08: 52
                  The tricolor became the national flag in the 19th century under Nicholas II, the Soviet Union collapsed not by itself, but as a result of illegal actions and outright betrayal of the top. I think they gave you such a flag in Belarus for a reason, it is a symbol of your utilization of Belarusians and a sign that the swami were going and will continue to do so.
                  And why are you sorry to ask you are not happy with Russia? Because the protesters were not supported? Why on earth? You have a legally elected president.
                  1. +2
                    14 October 2020 10: 43
                    Quote: Herman 4223
                    recolor became the national flag in the 19th century under Nicholas II, the Soviet Union did not collapse on its own, but as a result of illegal actions and outright betrayal of the top. I think they gave you such a flag in Belarus for a reason, it is a symbol of your utilization of Belarusians and a sign that the swami were going and will continue to do so.
                    And why are you sorry to ask you are not happy with Russia? Because the protesters were not supported? Why on earth? You have a legally elected president.

                    What the fuck is recycling ?! If you read history, then the history of the flag goes back to the 16th century and what will be measured next whose flag is older .. ??? They are being disposed of now, and the flag and the symbol were invented by themselves in the 16th century, and finally issued at the beginning of the 20th.

                    They are dissatisfied with the attitude of Russia, as you said towards the protesters, many people initially went to Russia, including employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs who did not agree with what was happening ... because they believed that Russia is really a friendly country ... mind you not to the west .. and to Russia ... and what did Russia do? I stupidly caught everyone and sent them back to Belarus ... and how does she treat her after that?
                    but about the legally elected president ... you yourself really believe in what you said? that he is the legitimately chosen ...? if this were so, then all the presidential candidates who were his rivals in the elections would not be sitting in the KGB detention center
              2. +1
                14 October 2020 16: 26
                Quote: Herman 4223

                I don't like Lukashenka either, he slows down the union state, but for some reason people don't come out under such slogans.


                And it will never work, forget about the union state. There can be no alliance with a country that has recognized the dictator and is ready to send police officers to help him. Who to fight with? with people? So unite with your Father, and you are no longer brothers to the people. You betrayed us.
                1. -1
                  15 October 2020 07: 57
                  First of all, how do you say your dictator was recognized by your Belarusian people, why should Russia argue with the opinion of the people and not recognize the legally elected leader? And what's wrong with helping the people to put things in order? This is me about the police who promised Putin.
                  Do you need chaos? There will be a union state, and only you are traitors here, with your fascist white-red rags!
                  1. +1
                    15 October 2020 11: 49
                    Quote: Herman 4223
                    First of all, how do you say your dictator was recognized by your Belarusian people, why should Russia argue with the opinion of the people and not recognize the legally elected leader? And what's wrong with helping the people to put things in order? This is me about the police who promised Putin.
                    Do you need chaos? There will be a union state, and only you are traitors here, with your fascist white-red rags!

                    The entire Russian people, all Russian civil society represented by the media, experts, deputies, the Russian government wished that a dictator would rule the fraternal people, and that people would live in a concentration camp, and promised to help the criminal. Forget about the Union State. Even if you blind him with bayonets, there will always be hatred of the Russians and separatism. And, unfortunately, nothing can be corrected.
                    1. -1
                      15 October 2020 11: 56
                      Quote: Gost2012
                      Even if you blind him with bayonets, there will always be hatred of the Russians and separatism. And, unfortunately, nothing can be corrected.

                      Nothing, the Polish gentlemen will quickly fix it.
                      1. +1
                        15 October 2020 12: 35
                        Quote: Dart2027

                        Nothing, the Polish gentlemen will quickly fix it.

                        This is the trouble, that people start to think like that - anywhere, but not with these. After all, everything is simple - they were waiting for the brothers to respond, but the brothers said - we will send the police. And the psheks responded - they warmed someone up, the AHL was not recognized, sanctions were imposed against the Nazis. So where should people go? To those who promised to fight them, or to those who provide support?
                        The announcement of the readiness to send police officers to the Republic of Belarus is a fatal mistake for our peoples. Tell Putin - the EU, do not dare to climb (he did it), and in Belarus we must listen to people and hold transparent repeat elections (he didn’t do that) - today these crowds would walk with the tricolor and shout "Russia!"
                        More than half of us were loyal to the Russian Federation until August, and a quarter or a third would be ready to join the squad, but now this is all gone, people look at the Russian Federation with misunderstanding, resentment and hatred.
                        And the AHL as ss ... l in the face of the Russian Federation, and continues, he did not deceive us, therefore we are on the street. He deceived you. And you fit in for him, for the criminal.
                      2. -1
                        15 October 2020 12: 42
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        After all, everything is simple - they were waiting for the brothers to respond, but the brothers said - we will send the police. And the psheks responded - they warmed someone,

                        Yes Yes Yes. Was Russia supposed to help in the coup d'état organized by its geopolitical "partners"? Seriously?
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        And the psheks responded - they warmed someone up, the AHL was not recognized, sanctions were imposed against the Nazis.
                        The Nazis are now sitting in the bullpen, and that the Poles help those who work for them is understandable - the money has been invested.
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        RB we must listen to people and hold transparent re-elections
                        Are these the ones that suit you?
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        and now all this is gone, people look at the Russian Federation with misunderstanding, resentment and hatred
                        Yes, yes, yes, they want to be "tse Europe", and are offended that Russia is against?
                      3. +1
                        15 October 2020 12: 45
                        What you write is a common point of view. Therefore, there will be no SG, and no brotherhood. RB was lost for the Russian Federation in August 2020, finally and forever.
                      4. -1
                        15 October 2020 12: 54
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        Therefore, there will be no SG, and no brotherhood.

                        It’s not up to you and not Tikhonoskaya to decide about the state, but without fraternity with a couple of percent of sheep, who are trying to destroy their own country, Russia will somehow manage.
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        RB was lost for the Russian Federation in August 2020, finally and forever.

                        Judging by the howl caused by Putin's statement, this did not happen.
                      5. 0
                        15 October 2020 12: 56
                        Time will tell, we will see everything during our lifetime.
                      6. -1
                        15 October 2020 16: 39
                        Quote: Gost2012
                        we will see everything during our lifetime

                        Already seen in Russia and Ukraine and Libya and ... Yes, many places.
                    2. -1
                      15 October 2020 12: 42
                      The Belarusian people wished to live as you live. Why should we be against it?
                      Only a court can call a person a criminal, if that happens, I agree with you. As for the hatred of Russians, if anyone has it, it is a consequence of the propaganda intoxicating people. And so you want another president, so choose another. We don't mind the flag in your hands.
                      1. +1
                        15 October 2020 12: 51
                        Quote: Herman 4223
                        The Belarusian people wished to live as you live. Why should we be against it?
                        Only a court can call a person a criminal, if that happens, I agree with you. As for the hatred of Russians, if anyone has it, it is a consequence of the propaganda intoxicating people. And so you want another president, so choose another. We don't mind the flag in your hands.

                        So just the same against. The Kremlin recognized the AHL, and promised troops, gave money. Personally, I do not believe that VVP could not know the real picture of our elections, he was still a scout, but in this case he deliberately went to betray our people. But even if he is naive and believes in 80% of the AHL, then degenerates are working in our direction, and it is time for the Kremlin to retire, the grip is lost and a fatal mistake has been made. Without the Kremlin's help, the AHL would have fallen. And so it will stretch for months, there will be victims, and between us, the peoples, this betrayal will lie for some unknown reason.
                      2. -1
                        15 October 2020 13: 28
                        There is no one betraying the people. On the contrary, there is support for his opinion and an offer of help. It is totally very difficult to falsify elections, Poroshenko, although an oligarch with connections, for some reason could not. Get to know the situation better, look around.
                        Putin would drain your Lukashenko the next day if the Belarusians came out with the demands of the union state and Lukashenko's resignation. Nobody needs him here, and he is as pro-Western as Tikhanovskaya is no better. Also leads your country away from Russia, just not so fast. If there was someone else, really about the Russian one, and so that people would take to the streets after him, then yes. And so merge it to the detriment of yourself and against the opinion of the people of your country. True, if this happened then the world would recognize Lukashenka's legitimacy.
                      3. +1
                        15 October 2020 13: 32
                        This is also a big mistake. You believed the AHL, and therefore the attitude is the same, with your territories and population falsification is more difficult. But the evidence is there, you just don't want to see it. But VVP is not an ordinary person, he should have known exactly what happened here.
                        Try for a moment to admit that I am telling the truth, and the AHL did not win this election, but brazenly lied to everyone, and breaks through the knee, and the VVP helps him. Then you can understand.
                      4. 0
                        15 October 2020 14: 59
                        And here I did not believe it? The evidence must be ironclad and confirmed in court. Well, let's assume that we lost, although I’ll say right away that I personally don’t think so. For this, there must be corrupt officials in large numbers. And if they are corrupt, who will have the greatest influence on them?
                        The one who has the most money, resources and influence in the world will have influence. It is in the world, and not in Belarus, since it does not exist on a separate planet. Moreover, the president can also be quickly overthrown in the elections with the help of these same officials.
                        Then who approved this uncle for you in this case? Lukashenka is in itself vryatli, he may have a little weight in his country, but this is a trifle.
                        You are involved in a big performance, someone plays on your emotions and you will have to pay for this performance. With their health, work, housing, their lives.
                        In Russia, no one wishes you harm.
                        Look for the truth.
                      5. 0
                        15 October 2020 13: 45
                        As for what VVP knows, listen to his closest associate, one of the founders of a united Russia, Fedorov. He says that Lukashenka is an enemy for Russia, a separatist and a traitor. He merges the union state, prohibits the banner of victory and the St. George ribbon. It spoils the attitude of countries and worsens the standard of living in the country. For Russia, Lukashenko is not a friend.
                        The choice is for your people, for the people of Belarus with whom to be. While you are making a choice for this person or an even more outspoken enemy, first of all, notice yourself. Because you will be killed in the streets, your businesses will be ruined. It's so sad for me.
        2. 0
          13 October 2020 10: 21
          And in general, if people go to an illegal event, they should be prepared that they can be arrested.
          1. +1
            13 October 2020 12: 38
            Quote: Herman 4223
            And in general, if people go to an illegal event, they should be prepared that they can be arrested.

            ordinary people no longer have legal methods to bring them to power ... they do what they can ... yes, they understand that they can be grabbed, fired from their jobs, put pressure under the threat of depriving children ... but nevertheless they go for it .. because they believe that it is necessary ... they are ready to make sacrifices in order to achieve their goals (right or wrong in your opinion, a secondary question ...) ... and do not sit on the couch and do not throw mud at everything around ...
            1. +2
              13 October 2020 13: 03
              Quote: exalibor
              ordinary people no longer have legal methods to convey to the authorities ... they do what they can ...
              following an example from neighbors
              1. 0
                14 October 2020 07: 14
                Quote: Dart2027
                following an example from neighbors

                where are these pictures? people during protests do not say how they will live after a while ... and where they want to go to Europe or Russia ... it is about how to solve the problems of this moment ... remove Lukashenko, hold fair elections and bring to justice under the law, those who exceeded their official powers in the suppression of protests ...
                1. -1
                  14 October 2020 07: 18
                  remove Lukashenko, hold fair elections and bring to justice those who exceeded their official powers in suppressing protests within the framework of the law ...

                  In short, carry out a coup d'etat using ordinary Belarusians and mercenaries from Poland and Ukraine, and then all who supported Lukashenka to luster ... I am amazed at your naivety.
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2020 10: 50
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    In short, carry out a coup d'etat using ordinary Belarusians and mercenaries from Poland and Ukraine, and then all who supported Lukashenka to luster ... I am amazed at your naivety.

                    yes, enough is already delirium to carry coups only everywhere they seem ... of course, the whole situation will be used by all and sundry ... including Russia ... but if the state itself had not created the prerequisites for this situation, then no one would have been able to shake people
                2. 0
                  14 October 2020 08: 32
                  Quote: exalibor
                  where are these pictures? people during protests do not say how they will live after a while ... and where they want to go to Europe or Russia ... we are talking about what would

                  That is, they themselves do not know what they want?
                  1. -1
                    14 October 2020 10: 50
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    That is, they themselves do not know what they want?

                    know ... read what is written under the text that you copied ...
                    1. 0
                      14 October 2020 11: 48
                      Quote: exalibor
                      under the text that you copied

                      Quote: exalibor
                      we are talking about how to solve the problems of this moment ... remove Lukashenka, hold fair elections and bring to justice those who exceeded their official authority in suppressing protests within the framework of the law ...

                      That is, nothing intelligible except for general words about nothing. Even on Ukarin there was at least some kind of program (of course unrealizable in practice, but theoretically it was), but then only "this power will go away" and? And nothing.
                      1. 0
                        14 October 2020 14: 15
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, nothing intelligible except for general words about nothing. Even on Ukarin there was at least some kind of program (of course unrealizable in practice, but theoretically it was), but then only "this power will go away" and? And nothing.

                        what do you need even more intelligible? Presidential candidates who have a program and transparent elections are being released from the KGB detention center ...
          2. 0
            14 October 2020 16: 29
            Quote: Herman 4223
            And in general, if people go to an illegal event, they should be prepared that they can be arrested.

            Many are already ready. We already have a meme: not sitting - not Belarus. More than 10 arrested for the country less than 000 million. in a couple of months. So ready when they go.
    2. -3
      12 October 2020 12: 36
      Of course, violence, and not less, they beat everyone there when they block, right?
    3. +2
      12 October 2020 13: 32
      You do not understand! This is not it! laughing
    4. -4
      13 October 2020 07: 55
      Quote: yehat2
      I'm wondering if the authorities are accused of violence.
      And 500 people blocking roads is not violence?

      no, this is the answer to the violence of the authorities ...
      1. +4
        13 October 2020 07: 59
        what kind of violence? The authorities themselves stood in the hundreds and blocked the roads before the demonstrators left?
        Did the protestors respond to this?
        1. 0
          13 October 2020 12: 53
          Quote: yehat2
          what kind of violence? The authorities themselves stood in the hundreds and blocked the roads before the demonstrators left?
          Did the protestors respond to this?

          From August 9 to August 10, the authorities seized people in the streets, shot them from cars with rubber bullets, tortured in Akrestsin Street, more than 4500 people were caulked in isolation wards and prisons in one night, people were dragged out of cars and beaten for nothing !!! people began to be missed even at the polling stations when they came to see the election results .... of course the authorities did not use violence ... everything is logical and harmonious in the picture of the world? if this had not happened from August 9 to 10, there would have been no such protests ... that's what people are answering ...
          1. +1
            13 October 2020 13: 03
            Quote: exalibor
            of course, the authorities did not use violence ... everything is logical and harmonious in the picture of the world

            And where can you see it?
            1. -1
              16 October 2020 09: 16
              See the Archive here. Bai.
              1. 0
                16 October 2020 10: 26
                Quote: baltiksi
                Archive on Here. Bai.

                Already done. Unconvincing.
                That's what violence means
                https://ria.ru/20190604/1555212125.html
                Once and the result is evident
  5. +28
    12 October 2020 12: 19
    What pride !? Zgmars are selling their native land for transfers to virtual wallets! This is the reason for "pride". Traitors!
    1. +10
      12 October 2020 13: 00
      Quote: JonnyT
      Traitors!
      Where do they come from, traitors, than people with Gaddafi did not live, ungrateful dodgers, now they have "freedom" in Libya, they have become "better" to live ... You wonder how long these "reptilian" Anglo-Saxon paws have, and snake hypnosis that all these corrupt rabbits and their mother are ready to sell.
      1. +3
        12 October 2020 17: 45
        Quote: Per se.
        Wonderful

        History teaches that no one wants to teach her lessons.
    2. 0
      13 October 2020 03: 07
      What a flag, such are the meanings. And zhovto-blakitny and white-red-white are the banners of traitors. They appeared as symbols of betrayal. And there can be no other way.
      1. -3
        13 October 2020 07: 57
        Quote: mmaxx
        Such a flag, such are the meanings. And zhovto-blakitny and white-red-white are the banners of traitors. They appeared as symbols of betrayal. And there can be no other way.

        the Russian tricolor so happened too .. but under it the whole country lives and does not blow in the mustache ...
        1. +1
          13 October 2020 08: 15
          Quote: exalibor
          Russian tricolor

          It existed long before the Second World War, but your flags are a remake of traitors.
          1. -1
            13 October 2020 13: 41
            Quote: Dart2027
            It existed long before the Second World War, but your flags are a remake of traitors.

            so this flag existed long before the Second World War ... if you really throw phrases then read the story first when this flag appeared .. and do not stupidly repeat what uneducated people write
            1. +1
              13 October 2020 13: 57
              Quote: exalibor
              so this flag existed

              In GV, in the territory occupied by the Germans. If you really throw phrases, then first read the story when this flag appeared, and do not stupidly repeat what uneducated people write.
              1. -1
                14 October 2020 07: 10
                Quote: Dart2027
                In GV, in the territory occupied by the Germans. If you really throw phrases, then first read the story when this flag appeared, and do not stupidly repeat what uneducated people write.

                In 1917, during the February Revolution in the Russian Empire, the Belarusian organizations of Petrograd turned to the young architect Klavdiy Duzh-Dushevsky to create the flag of the Belarusian national movement. He made several designs of the flag, of which the white-red-white was adopted. [15] The exact date of approval of the sketch is unknown [16].

                On March 25, 1917, a congress of Belarusian national organizations [be] was held in Minsk. Participant of the congress Zoska Veras recalled that a white flag was hung over the congress building as a symbol of White Russia, but the delegates of the congress considered the white flag a symbol of counter-revolution [17]. According to the memoirs of Radoslav Ostrovsky, the Belarusian National Committee, elected at the congress, unanimously adopted a resolution on the national symbols of Belarus, in which the main argument in favor of the adoption of the white-red-white flag was not the coat of arms of the Chase or another symbol, but the prevalence of red white ornaments:

                “Since white and red patterns predominate in Belarusian folk art, it was decided to use these colors for the national flag. Thus, the committee decided that the flag should consist of three horizontal stripes of the same width - white, red and white, and its length should be twice the width[18][19]. »
                On the other hand, it is argued that the congress of Belarusian organizations did not take any decisions on flags [20]. The facts of using the Belarusian flag were recorded in several newspaper publications in 1917. In the same year, the Belarusian Cultural and Educational Association [18] [21] used the white-red-white flag. On December 15, the First All-Belarusian Congress was held under the white-red-white flags [18].

                read at least Wikipedia ... a smart man ... nothing that according to the Russian tricolor at the same time white officers fought against their own people who were supplied by the same Entente ... but this is not a betrayal of his country and his people ... how is it they say this is different ... the flag is clean, so to speak ... so again, do not talk nonsense about flags, but use your own advice and read the story ...
                1. 0
                  14 October 2020 08: 38
                  Quote: exalibor
                  In 1917, during the February Revolution in the Russian Empire, the Belarusian organizations of Petrograd

                  Quote: exalibor
                  read at least wikipedia ... smart man ...
                  Ok, I read:
                  White-red-white flag (Belorussian Bela-chyrvona-bely stsyag, classical Belorussian Bel-chyrvona-bely stsyag, abbreviated colloquial BCHB) - the official flag of the Belarusian People's Republic (1918-1919)

                  The Belarusian People's Republic (BNR) (Belarusian. Belarusian People's Republic, BNR) is a state [3], proclaimed on the territory of modern Belarus on March 9, 1918 by the 2nd Charter of the Rada of the Belarusian People's Republic, which established the independence of this entity from March 25, 1918 on territories of the former Russian Empire occupied by German troops within the boundaries of the Belarusian ethnographic territory.

                  That is
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  in the territory occupied by the Germans.

                  Quote: exalibor
                  according to the Russian tricolor in

                  The meeting in its decision on April 5 (17), 1896 came to the conclusion that “the white-blue-red flag has every right to be called Russian or national and its colors: white, blue and red are called state; the flag is black-orange-white and has neither heraldic nor historical grounds "
                  This, by the way, is the same quote from Wikipedia.
                  So again, do not talk nonsense about flags, but use your own advice and read history.
                  1. -2
                    14 October 2020 10: 48
                    that is, the fact that the flag was developed in Petrograd under the leadership of the Bolsheviks did not bother you? ... but the fact that it appeared in the occupied territory is yes ... it's a bickering !!! it is very convenient to rip out individual words from the whole article ... like "occupied territory"

                    about the tricolor did not understand at all what is the meaning of exposure? then that it was introduced and developed 20 years earlier? and what does it mean?
                    1. 0
                      14 October 2020 12: 01
                      Quote: exalibor
                      that is, the fact that the flag was developed in Petrograd under the leadership of the Bolsheviks did not bother you?

                      Read my comments - I have an extremely negative attitude to the national policy of the Bolsheviks.
                      Quote: exalibor
                      but the fact that he appeared in the occupied territory is yes

                      It is a fact of whoever used it.
                      Quote: exalibor
                      then that it was introduced and developed 20 years earlier? and what does it mean?

                      The fact that he was the Russian flag long before all this turbulence began by the division of the Russian people. As a matter of fact, you yourself confirm this:
                      Quote: baltiksi
                      If before August 9 the Belarusians were a population within the borders, then thanks to the AHL they are rapidly becoming a PEOPLE.
                      That is, in your opinion, there have been no Belarusians yet. Who was then?
                      1. 0
                        14 October 2020 14: 11
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Read my comments - I have an extremely negative attitude to the national policy of the Bolsheviks.

                        well, regardless of your attitude to the national policy of the Bolsheviks, the flag was developed on the territory of the Russian Empire ... at least the finished version and the initial one with the chase was already in the 16th century ... and I strongly doubt that there was any influence from outside the Russian Empire during its creation ...
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        It is a fact of whoever used it.

                        but it was used not only in the occupied territory ... the tricolor was also used by the Vlasovites in the occupied territory ... and that the tricolor suffered from this? he was recorded in the flag of punishers and traitors?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The fact that he was the Russian flag long before all this turbulence began by the division of the Russian people. As a matter of fact, you yourself confirm this:

                        was created 20 years earlier than the white-red-white ... but this is not a period for history and does not say anything ... read the original above what I wrote about the original flags with the pursuit back in the 16th century ...
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, in your opinion, there have been no Belarusians yet. Who was then?

                        Yes, I’m not saying that Belarusians as a nation were ... maybe there was none ... whoever didn’t stomp on our territory ... so this is a real venegrette of peoples ... which so happened that it is historically closer to Russia ... I don't see anything wrong with that ... but nevertheless we had some history of our own without the Russian Empire, and what is the point of denying this, I don’t understand? and I don't see any sense in opposing it in some negative sense against Russia ... well, it was and was ... our ancestors also soaked each other ... and now what? to cultivate hatred for each other again? and yes, Lukashenka’s actions, by the way, strongly pushed people to realize that they are the people, and not just a community of people living in the territory ... although this was not my comment, but I agree with him ...
  6. nnm
    +27
    12 October 2020 12: 19
    Now the siloviki will stand exactly to the last. If someone else had illusions about what these protesters were like.
    1. +5
      12 October 2020 12: 49
      Quote: nnm
      Now the siloviki will stand exactly to the last. If someone else had illusions about what these protesters were like.

      Ukraine has set an excellent example ...
      Now Lukashenka is acting much more decisively. And the security forces, who do not want to get hit by bullets and then kneel down much, much tougher than the Ukrainian ones.

      And then there are these, "fighters with the brain" incite in a strange confidence that the more they beat the crowd, the faster they will come to power.
    2. +6
      12 October 2020 12: 59
      begging for mercy from the Belarusian people, as it was in Ukraine after the victory of the people.

      Who else from there thinks that it will not be like in Ukraine !?
      After such threats, the siloviki have every moral right to suppress this whole booth in the most brutal way.
    3. 0
      12 October 2020 13: 48
      This is what they want. Create an atmosphere of intolerance where each side cannot make concessions. "And the battle continues again" ...
      1. -1
        13 October 2020 07: 58
        Quote: IvanT
        This is what they want. Create an atmosphere of intolerance where each side cannot make concessions. "And the battle continues again" ...

        so the state itself is beautiful and creates this atmosphere ...
  7. +34
    12 October 2020 12: 21
    Well done, Tikhanovskaya, sitting in warmth and comfort, in soft slippers, abroad, in the Telegram about blood and violence he pees ... he collects likes laughing
  8. +25
    12 October 2020 12: 22
    "Yes if, b" my husband and I had these 900 dollars, wouldn’t my husband and I have started all this !? "-Tikhanovskaya's public explanation of the $ 000 found in her mother-in-law.
    That says it all. The degree of her stupidity and cynicism.
  9. -25
    12 October 2020 12: 23
    Now Telegram has the opportunity to comment, go find out the local mood, very informative
    1. +18
      12 October 2020 12: 27
      2% of the country's population is nothing. Maidanutye are everywhere. Every family has its black sheep.
      1. -29
        12 October 2020 12: 35
        Well, since you think that if more people go out than the entire Belarusian army, this is not enough, then yes
    2. -13
      12 October 2020 12: 46
      The downsides, as I understand it, for the possibility of comments appeared in Telegram, it's not for me, for Durov laughing
    3. nnm
      +20
      12 October 2020 12: 46
      This is how we would advise you not to go to the Ekho Moskvy website and say that in their chat you will find out the opinion of Russians ...
      Whoever dines on a girl doesn't want her
      1. -14
        12 October 2020 12: 53
        I agree with you on the one hand
        On the other hand, the video of "Sunday walks" is not going anywhere
        1. nnm
          +8
          12 October 2020 12: 55
          it depends on what conclusions you draw from this for yourself ...
          1. -19
            12 October 2020 13: 09
            It seems to me that the conclusion is simple: - Belarusians (at least the active part of society) are tired of Luka and his regime
            Notice people put forward only 3 internal political (the main word, not foreign policy or socio-economic) demands: - fair elections,
            - release political prisoners
            -resignation of Lukashenka
            1. nnm
              +8
              12 October 2020 13: 35
              An extremely cursory glance. And the main mistake was voiced by you - "at least the active part of society." As far as its interests represent the views of the whole society, who stands behind them, finances, organizes, manages. Why do they put forward anti-constitutional demands, since when do violators of the law suddenly become political prisoners, and so on?
              1. -8
                12 October 2020 13: 59
                On the other hand, no one knows how many citizens supporting the "active minority" for one reason or another do not go to protest actions, just like no one knows how many% of citizens support the existing regime
                For this, there are elections with independent observers, equal access of candidates to the media, the right to have their representatives at all polling stations and commissions, the CEC, the ability to challenge the results in court
                As we used to say, there would be a person, but there would be an article
            2. +4
              12 October 2020 15: 37
              Quote: maktub
              at least the active part of society

              And by what criteria do you define the active part of society? If only those who are satisfied with the Maidans, walks, then they are the passive of this society, 20% voted against Luka, so they wander (judging by the number of wandering as a percentage of the population)
              1. -8
                12 October 2020 16: 24
                Something I have not seen the "Sunday walks" of the "sympathizers" of Lukashenka, except maybe guys in uniform laughing
                1. +4
                  12 October 2020 17: 47
                  Quote: maktub
                  Something I have not seen "Sunday walks" "sympathizers" Lukashenka

                  What for? The siloviki are doing well without them.
                2. 0
                  12 October 2020 19: 51
                  Quote: maktub
                  Something I have not seen the "Sunday walks" of the "sympathizers" of Lukashenka, except maybe guys in uniform laughing

                  It's so hard to see from the basements of the Pentagon. You ask the Russian cosmonauts to take a photo. wink
                  1. -7
                    12 October 2020 20: 00
                    Sometimes it's better to keep silent
                    Russian cosmonauts have no time to photograph, they run to the American toilet
                    1. -2
                      12 October 2020 20: 03
                      Quote: maktub
                      Sometimes it's better to keep silent
                      Russian cosmonauts have no time to photograph, they run to the American toilet

                      belay
                      Sometimes it's better to keep silent

                      1. -4
                        12 October 2020 20: 15
                        Do not wishful thinking
                        Вот действительное https://www.google.com.ua/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.gazeta.ru/amp/science/news/2020/10/10/n_15062683.shtml&ved=2ahUKEwixkNGRxq_sAhVklYsKHTTQDJ8QFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw002a5NaDndAL53nY7yEnc8&ampcf=1
                    2. 0
                      12 October 2020 22: 01
                      And shortly before that, on the ISS, the Americans ran to the Russian toilet. And what of it? What did you mean by that?
                      1. -5
                        12 October 2020 22: 19
                        Sergei, this was a reaction to the absurd accusations of Gr. Sabakina
    4. +3
      12 October 2020 17: 55
      And these "local sentiments" are not generated by any "maktubs" for two hryvnias a day?
      1. -8
        12 October 2020 18: 05
        Don't be smart, it doesn't suit you
        "Local sentiments" provoke local authorities
        1. 0
          14 October 2020 04: 08
          )))) Perhaps, for a dollar I'll buy it @
  10. +24
    12 October 2020 12: 24
    it will be very interesting to remember their happy faces when they kneel and beg for mercy from the Belarusian people, as it was in Ukraine after the victory of the people.

    That is, almost total de-industrialization and the outflow of the most qualified and able-bodied part of the population, the elimination of social support is a victory of the people? Well well!..
  11. +16
    12 October 2020 12: 24
    it will be very interesting to remember their happy faces when they kneel begging for mercy

    The scenario carried out in Ukraine is the same template.
  12. HAM
    +24
    12 October 2020 12: 24
    How does the "opposition" want to gain the loyalty of the siloviki, promising them terror and murder after their victory ??
    Where is the logic? And who will kneel now ...
    1. +4
      12 October 2020 12: 45
      Outdated training manuals
  13. +26
    12 October 2020 12: 25
    (...) it will be very interesting to remember their happy faces when they kneel and beg for mercy from the Belarusian people, as it was in Ukraine after the victory of the people. (...) We will never forgive them, this is impossible to forgive ... Each of them will be condemned in accordance with the law. Houses and apartments bought on credit will be confiscated, the money received from the occupation regime for the war with its people will be taken away and used to restore the country

    The author of these lines is most likely a dropout student who never held anything heavier than a smartphone in his hands.
    And if he really is in Belarus, then most likely very soon he, reeling his snot on his fist, will confess with joy, surrendering all his accomplices.
    Let's wish him a good investigator.
  14. +3
    12 October 2020 12: 27
    You don't even need to come up with a slogan BLM - Belarus Lives Matter
    1. +5
      12 October 2020 12: 42
      "The (free) hydration revolution" is a contagious topic ... belay
      And behind such a revolution comes political impotence! And territorial castration ...

      And after the "marches of pride" are usually followed by "marches of equality" (the names of what there are in European countries - "prides", from the word "pride")! What I sincerely do not wish for Belarusians ...
  15. +7
    12 October 2020 12: 27
    The protests are fading little by little, as after 2010. But unlike those times, they were able to connect and process a lot of young people on their side, and this is very, very bad, I still don't understand why they don't work with young people in Belarus. The most interesting thing is what will happen in the Russian Federation in 2021 for the Duma elections, both the West and the Russian Federation have drawn conclusions about the mistakes and will prepare new strategies in the war against each other.
    1. +3
      12 October 2020 17: 49
      Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
      I still don't understand why they don't work with youth in Belarus

      The problem is that young people tend to rebel for rebellion itself. Psychological immaturity multiplied by hormones.
      1. +1
        12 October 2020 18: 10
        This is understandable, but you need to direct it in the right direction, and not leave it on: Yes, everything will resolve itself, yeah. In 91 and 93, the driving forces of protests in the USSR and the Russian Federation are youth. We also do not work with her, but the West works ...
        1. 0
          12 October 2020 20: 54
          Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
          but you need to direct it in the right direction

          Unfortunately, this is much more difficult than directing them to destroy the state. A person wants everything at once - this is neither bad nor good, it is a subconscious desire. Another thing is that, having matured, he also understands that this is impossible - in order to have something, you need to work, and nothing will appear right away. Here are just some who begin to understand this by the age of 30, if not later.
        2. 0
          12 October 2020 22: 05
          It seems to me that in 91-93. the driving force of the protests was still the then thirty or forty. By the way, there were also many elderly people.
          1. 0
            13 October 2020 08: 16
            Quote: Sergej1972
            in 91-93

            Then everyone wanted change.
  16. 0
    12 October 2020 12: 29
    On Sunday, October 11, the Belarusian opposition held a "March of Pride" at 12 famines Belarus.

  17. +9
    12 October 2020 12: 31
    A good example of the Belarusian pimply Internet snot in shorts, dreaming of a revolution, and the Moscow intelligentsia, were shown this week by the Kyrgyz. A couple of days - and the election results were canceled, and the change of the main thing in the country is just around the corner. Here's an example: you can't make a revolution with your hands accustomed to a yellow duck and a glass of latte. Only with hands used to cobblestones. And the first victims of the evil and reckless gopota, stupid revolutionary force, will be just lamp cafes with owls and show rooms of young designers, shops of Western brands with lace panties, cafes opened on proceeds from being sucked into NGOs - places where people like to speculate how stuffy in "this country". They will definitely be smashed in the interests of the revolution. In Kyrgyzstan, they immediately began to plunder and seize the richest gold mining enterprises, destroy the checkpoints and warehouses of factories ...
  18. +3
    12 October 2020 12: 32
    Surprisingly, our news is full of fundraising for sick children, vigorous reports about personnel changes and the ongoing "decay of Ukraine" - but there is not a word about the current situation in Blr ...
    1. +6
      12 October 2020 12: 36
      Pavel Durov, billionaire and founder of Telegram, said that Apple demanded that he block three Telegram channels dedicated to the events in Belarus. Well, the corporation didn't like them. And Durov admitted that he would have to do it. He cannot oppose anything to these sharks of capitalism. Despite the fact that he was able to resist the Russian Federation in the person of the "almighty" FSB, he easily and naturally did not fulfill the requirements of the authorities until they surrendered and allowed Telegram.
      Well, who allows this?
      1. +6
        12 October 2020 12: 43
        He cannot oppose anything to these sharks of capitalism.
        , and Pavel Durov himself, the billionaire and founder of Telegram, apparently does not belong to the sharks of capitalism ... smile
        1. +2
          12 October 2020 14: 00
          Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
          while Pavel Durov himself, billionaire and founder of Telegram, apparently does not belong to the sharks of capitalism ...

          No, he's just a pike.
      2. +1
        12 October 2020 12: 48
        And what does Pavel Durov have to do with it? Mr. Durov has a commercial project and he is free to do whatever he wants with it, while we have “sort of like” public media that exist on taxes and must inform about important things happening in the world. According to our media, there is a feeling that nothing is happening in the world.
        1. 0
          14 October 2020 04: 12
          In Japan, it is generally not customary to report bad news so as not to sour the blood of the electorate ... so what?)
    2. 0
      12 October 2020 12: 40
      Something else you say, what other collections of money for children, the amendments have already been adopted and zealously assured that this shameful phenomenon will immediately disappear from our life as soon as we accept the vital amendment about the priority of children ...
      Not really .....
      1. +3
        12 October 2020 12: 54
        As collected - and collect. And in the news and in commercials. You see, there are no events on the planet more important than the poor Girl Masha or the Boy Petya (which are certainly a pity), but when the media, overwhelming tens of millions in ever-increasing advertising, drive me to this over and over again, and not investigations about where Mr. Zakharchenko comes from (for example ) earned his billions or whether Mr. Shaposhnikov got out of the question about two undeclared billions of income - I have only two options - either this is extreme idiocy / mediocrity and it is necessary to drive these people from the salary with these very brooms, or this is the highest form of cynicism and feeding , hide behind things that have nothing to do with EVENTS (sick kids, cats and funny dogs) from serious processes and phenomena that can again, like a 25 kilogram weight, fall on our heads later, in the style of the Ukrainian events of 2014.
      2. -3
        12 October 2020 13: 00
        Who assured that he would immediately disappear? I haven't heard that.
        1. -2
          12 October 2020 13: 09
          Whoever assured is now shamefully silent with his tongue out
          1. -1
            12 October 2020 14: 17
            Clear. So you are a fakecomet ...
            1. -2
              12 October 2020 14: 46
              One could answer something, but considering that it's just you ...
              You can't shut up the whole emptiness
  19. +3
    12 October 2020 12: 36
    Let them try ....., only then do not be offended!
  20. +3
    12 October 2020 12: 37
    Quote: Sergey39
    The word "Opposition" in the title should be enclosed in quotation marks.

    I would even say, swap the first two letters in this word ... feel
    To understand what they think and in what place they operate!
  21. 0
    12 October 2020 12: 38
    Oppa look thin on the picture.

    When Sveta, before fleeing to Lithuania from her fellow thugs (who sentenced her to the role of a sacred victim) received 15 thousand bucks and a passport from her dad, she slobbering all over Lukashenka's vest from excess of feelings laughing
  22. +6
    12 October 2020 12: 45
    According to yesterday's video, the evening video, when they blocked the street with a barricade, the protesters began to hide their faces, things are heading towards their noble massacre. How many diplomats are left in the cuts of those who have been laid off? Shoot. Work brothers, the country is before your eyes. Father will not leave you! We must return Balorussia to the constitutional channel.!
    1. -15
      12 October 2020 13: 28
      Quote: tralflot1832
      According to yesterday's video, the evening video, when they blocked the street with a barricade, the protesters began to hide their faces, things are heading towards their noble massacre. How many diplomats are left in the cuts of those who have been laid off? Shoot. Work brothers, the country is before your eyes. Father will not leave you! We must return Balorussia to the constitutional channel.!

      So far, I see the closed faces of the security officials, and the sticks too, but the patience of the people is not unlimited
      1. -3
        13 October 2020 08: 37
        all protesters are bums !!!! normal work from morning to evening
      2. 0
        14 October 2020 04: 14
        What tops has to do with the people?)
  23. +7
    12 October 2020 12: 45
    Goebbels's propaganda on the Internet is bearing fruit: a generation of children-extremists has been raised, a talentless generation of urks who are incapable of anything ... the same is true in Russia ...
    predictably, in the absence of state ideology and complete connivance in upbringing, even in state institutions that in families ...
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  25. +2
    12 October 2020 12: 56
    Sprinkle them with dust, not water them.
  26. +2
    12 October 2020 12: 58
    but this is the lawlessness Belarusians want as in Ukraine?
  27. +3
    12 October 2020 12: 59
    It doesn't matter what really happens.
    It is only important that people know about it.
    And people only know what they have written in the newspapers and shown on TV (even a TV set, even a smart one).
    Who writes?
    That's right, the one who owns the media.
    And to whom do they belong?
    That's right, not "dad" at all.
    Even Trump in America is forced to defend himself with varying degrees of success, where much smaller "game" is to get away from the hunters.

    It is not for nothing that Simonyan is crying that in Russia almost all channels of information dissemination are in the hands of foreigners.
    But, according to her, half of those on whom it depends are simply illiterate. Of the rest, half are lazy, and the rest, according to her, are traitors.
    So they work, they are not lazy. And then the OMON puffs out.
  28. +8
    12 October 2020 13: 00
    They walk and hold meetings for a month, but live off what? I often hear that in Belarus everything is the same as under the Union. Maybe the article remained "On parasitism"?
    1. +4
      12 October 2020 17: 51
      Quote: Vladimir61
      They walk and hold meetings for a month, but live off what?

      This is the question from which any revolutionary starts a fit of rage.
  29. +3
    12 October 2020 13: 03
    "March of Pride". ..... called upon to bring the police officers to their knees, as it was in Ukraine. In addition, the security officials were promised all kinds of reprisals after the opposition came to power.
    belayPolice officers need to bring the "proud" scum to their knees once and all the scum will dissolve and pass. You need to clean the side, check documents: all from Ukraine, Poland, Lithuania, Russia - 24 hours and persona non grata!
    1. -2
      12 October 2020 13: 12
      The main thing then is to have at least a drop of pride and not record whining videos on YouTube
  30. +2
    12 October 2020 13: 05
    Quote: loki565
    So the organizers are over the hill, they are not in danger. But the control channels should be blocked.

    At one time, the Mossad clearly proved that being over the hill is not a panacea. I don’t understand why neither we nor our allies like Belarus want to learn from useful experience.
    1. +1
      12 October 2020 14: 07
      The Mossad has a big brother to cover, if that.
      And "dad", on the contrary, is himself under sanctions.
      1. 0
        12 October 2020 15: 25
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        The Mossad has a big brother to cover, if that.
        And "dad", on the contrary, is himself under sanctions.

        When the Mossad had such a good time, after the war, his big brother was not the states ... And this brother and dad will cover if anything.
    2. -1
      12 October 2020 17: 52
      Quote: oleg123219307
      I don’t understand why neither we nor allies like Belarus want to learn from useful experience

      Because we are talking about the US elites.
  31. -2
    12 October 2020 13: 12
    As enemies of the communists, they love to scream that they, the poor, are all "occupied". They were "occupied" by the Russians in pre-revolutionary Russia, they were "occupied" by the communists in the Soviet period, and they are "occupied" in their post-Soviet period.
  32. +8
    12 October 2020 13: 15
    Hmm ... I talked in a discord like that with a fellow-clan from RB for the events they have. Sur complete, I told him - "Look what is happening in Ukraine, the same will happen with you", and in response to me "you are talking about another country, we have a completely different. Our people came out against arbitrariness!" I told him "Well, we, too, people were first lured by topics about the reduction of communal services, but it turned out like that." He was like "I haven't studied the situation there - I don't know anything, I haven't heard about the trade union house, etc." And complete frostbite, in general the classic "if I don't like an example or a terrible one, I ignore it." The guy is 25 years old, student damn it.
    1. -1
      12 October 2020 13: 39
      Otto Bismarck- "Revolutions are prepared by geniuses, they are made by romantics, and the fruits are used by scoundrels", as it all happened with us
      1. +5
        12 October 2020 14: 42
        Quote: maktub
        Otto Bismarck- "Revolutions are prepared by geniuses, romantics make, and villains use the fruits", as it all happened with us


        "Revolution", is this "Maidan"? So it was not prepared by you, and if geniuses, then not yours No. .

        And precisely, its "fruits" were not prepared for you.

        YOU WERE Yes ...

        Actually, what to breed you, if you yourself live in captivity of false illusions, knowledge and ideas.



        Original: "The romantics conceive every revolution, the zealots carry out, and the inveterate villains take advantage of it.. "- Thomas Carlyle (1795-1881) - British writer, historian and philosopher of Scottish descent.
        1. -4
          12 October 2020 15: 05
          I will answer in the style of "God's chosen people": - and you weren't bred and used?
          Or in someone else's eye ...?
          1. +5
            12 October 2020 17: 27
            Quote: maktub
            I will answer in the style of "God's chosen people": - and you weren't bred and used?

            No, we made our choice under the pressure of the coup in Kiev. We did not prepare any "color revolutions" and "Maidans" ...

            Quote: maktub
            Or in someone else's eye ...?


            So what, in someone else's eye? Moreover, having accepted a coup and starting a war, your "Eye" is truly a stranger.
            And taking into account the qualifications of PeTska, also chocolate ...
            1. -4
              12 October 2020 17: 44
              Gunpowder mistake, not my idol
              Don't juggle, you all understood what I wanted to say
              1. +2
                13 October 2020 08: 07
                Quote: maktub
                Gunpowder mistake, not my idol

                Yours! He is a stigma on the entire outskirts and outskirts, which cowardly accepted the Bandera coup in the country.
    2. +3
      12 October 2020 16: 43
      Quote: Hexagon
      Look what is happening in Ukraine, the same will happen with you

      I have been communicating with "yours" on the Internet since 2008, especially intensively - at the end of 13th - beginning of 14th. Mostly from Donetsk, but - "orange". They supported Euromaidan, and I tried to convince them that they were doing it in vain. It was useless - that head against the wall. It feels like a really zombie. No arguments are accepted, dialogue was not possible at all. Before the newest year, 2014, one of them wrote: now the main thing is to throw off Yanyk, and we'll see what happens next. I answered: what is there to watch? Then there will be a civil war. But, of course, no one took my words seriously. How I wish I was wrong!
      It is noteworthy that in their comments some kind of pathological hatred of Putin often shone. He asked - what do you mean, he is not your president? In response - he is so-and-so and generally byaka. In general, there was a lot of interesting things there. We all see the result now.
      Therefore, I am not surprised that no arguments work for your correspondents from Belarus. It seems that Western experts have mastered the technology of zombies to perfection.
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  34. +5
    12 October 2020 13: 28
    I don't understand. All week, there was a groan in the bchb garbage dumps that what Kirghiz are good fellows, we want to be like in Kyrgyzstan, we need to act harder. On Friday, President Sveta spoke to her husband. The husband told Sveta that everything was hurt, but he prefers harder. Sveta said that if you need to be tougher, it will be tougher. Pal Palych Latushko said in a video address that since the authorities have gone to dialogue, it means that this is weakness and it must be tougher, the regime is about to fall, victory is already in your pocket. At the numerous requests of the Zmagarstvo, the authorities responded to the aspirations and made them harder. Unhappy again! How is that ?!
    It’s just an acute zamagarit brain, not otherwise.
  35. +3
    12 October 2020 13: 30
    Power to the street does not give up any normal state !!! otherwise, an endless mess ... or until someone comes who will sharply drive everything into a normative, legal framework ... and it's good if so!
  36. +4
    12 October 2020 13: 35
    Opposition leader from Lithuania: protest, simple-minded Belarusians, and I will sit in a comfortable villa, drinking tea and cookies ...
    ****
    Identify organizers and provocateurs and put them in jail.
  37. -1
    12 October 2020 13: 41
    I read and cannot understand what the Belarusian KGB is doing. It is high time to end these games of democracy. Tiananmen was in China, but calm.
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  39. 0
    12 October 2020 13: 52
    "It will be very interesting to remember their happy faces when they kneel and beg for mercy from the Belarusian people, as it was in Ukraine after the victory of the people"
    They leave the security officials only one way - no man, no problem
  40. +2
    12 October 2020 13: 53
    We must take the Chinese as an example: once they drove the caterpillars over the liberals and slapped the rest of the demonstratively on Tiananmen with TV broadcasts throughout the country, as traitors to the Motherland, and not a single Euroslamp could do anything. And since then the silence
    1. 0
      12 October 2020 22: 13
      In Tiananmen, there were not only liberals, but also ultra-Maoists who demanded equality and an end to market reforms. As they say, not everything was so simple there.
  41. -7
    12 October 2020 14: 12
    The Belarusians from mere demonstrations began to act actively. A sad sign for Lukoshenko. Only the police remained of the support, and that because of the fear that they would be punished for their crimes.
  42. -4
    12 October 2020 14: 15
    Quote: Fungus
    2% of the country's population is nothing. Maidanutye are everywhere. Every family has its black sheep.

    Well, not 2, but 3%. This is if we talk about Lukashenka's supporters.
    1. -3
      13 October 2020 08: 40
      all protesters are bums !!!! normal work from morning to evening
  43. +1
    12 October 2020 14: 17
    Caterpillars, you say?
    Oh well. And that's what they want. To show the whole world how the bloody regime mocks the people.
    And how this "people" competently cuts off the policemen and then kicks them with ten men on the head, only our "First Channel" will show. But who will see him, except our pensioners.
    They had already passed in kuevo, students and librarians were almost tired of the Maidan, they began to disperse to their homes. And then "suddenly" once, and the order to violently disperse ...
    And the Chinese experience in this case will not fail, and the weight category is different, and the political will too.
    1. -9
      12 October 2020 15: 21
      And how this "people" competently cuts off the policemen and then kicks them with ten men on the head will be shown only by our "First Channel"


      and this, "Channel One" will show?

      1. -3
        13 October 2020 08: 41
        this is how these minigating freaks need to, instead of working, they organize rallies
  44. +3
    12 October 2020 14: 25
    And so yes. I also don't understand the KGB's inaction.
    Everyone carries a smartphone with them - not just a radio tag, but also a source of various information about the owner.
    I looked who was where and when, what was doing there. What channels did I visit, what information I downloaded, what I wrote about with my "friends" ...
    I came to his house and asked, "what are you walking on?"
    Again, all the demonstrators can be photographed and in 5 seconds Googleyandex will tell you everything about him.
    You don't even have to do it yourself, load the provider by asking how much he values ​​the license ...
    1. -7
      12 October 2020 16: 08
      Missing here
      I made a remote analysis of feces, determined the composition of the dinner, calculated the amount of money from the State Department based on the analysis of feces and prices in the store.
      Came and packed with no talking even
  45. +3
    12 October 2020 14: 28
    The rat did not even begin to correct the training manuals used in Georgia and Ukraine.
  46. +4
    12 October 2020 15: 21
    Pride March? Pride for what? For funding from abroad?
  47. +2
    12 October 2020 15: 33
    Why not write right away that "America intends to bring the security forces of Belarus to their knees"?
    No, you need to put your shadow on the fence ...
  48. +3
    12 October 2020 16: 02
    They have no brain by definition. Only provocateurs or complete D; bills can destroy their country and the lives of other citizens.
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  50. +2
    12 October 2020 16: 50
    But there are more of us, and we will achieve our goal. You yourself know what to do

    - she wrote on the Telegram channel.

    What is this bottom-up statement. This is a call to their own, like "meat" forward, and I'll take a look here.
    May God grant the real people, the security forces and the president to defend Belarus. Do not let the country go into oblivion.
  51. +3
    12 October 2020 17: 57
    In America, a “pride march” usually means a parade... no, I already have too many warnings, lest the mods ban them, so let’s say this: those minorities who are not allowed such a parade in Moscow. tongue
  52. 0
    12 October 2020 19: 14
    Well, after such opuses, there will be no mercy for the snake. It will be very difficult for commanders to restrain the fighters.
  53. +2
    12 October 2020 20: 17
    March of meanness from sheep and eccentrics with the letter me with a mouse instead of a brain.
  54. 0
    13 October 2020 02: 58
    I'm interested in one thing. They will take away the apartments. Who will they sell to? To restore the country, money is needed. This means that apartments must be sold at normal prices. And to whom? Are the revolutionaries really ready to pay for the confiscation? This has never happened before.
    There's straw in our heads. Still, I would like to provide these crazy grandmothers with a Ukrainian version of life. It’s a pity that Putin is kind to us.
    1. -4
      13 October 2020 08: 43
      it will be like the Ukrainians, the Natsiks will just take over their apartments
      why were there so many of them? because they were allowed to rob quilted jackets, take away cars and housing
  55. 0
    13 October 2020 07: 27
    That's why...the same security forces won't let you close to power.!!!!
  56. 0
    13 October 2020 07: 51
    A thousand fine per person and the security forces could be given a bonus for their trouble.
  57. 0
    13 October 2020 12: 04
    “Peaceful protest” bares its fangs.... I have no doubt that if they succeed (God forbid!), it will be the same and even worse. Trials and lynchings.
  58. +1
    13 October 2020 13: 30
    Quote: exalibor
    the authorities seized people on the streets from August 9 to 10

    who again took to the streets and really strained the life of the city with the stupidest slogans
    and even more stupid goals.
    Those. you are taking revenge for being calmed down last time when you went against the previous time
    Have you seen the movie "Groundhog Day"? Maybe take an example from Belushi and start doing good for people?
    And lastly, yes, there is violence against protesters in Belarus and yes, the elections are unfair. Moreover, the reasons are different - from excesses on the ground to direct instructions, and this is bad.
    But the alternative - even a hint of victory for those hiding behind Tikhonovskaya's doll is simply terrible.
    Therefore, I treat what the pro-Lukashenko government is doing like garlic.
    It’s bitter and tasteless, but it helps against colds and parasites.
    I hope you will finally stop creating illusions and think about why so many people around you are telling you this. And less, but I also hope that you will understand and accept a different point of view.
    But what am I talking about? All elections in Belarus are a farce generated by the banal laziness of ordinary people.
    You don't want to do anything.
  59. -2
    13 October 2020 23: 52
    Isn’t it time for Putin to put forward an ultimatum to Lukashenko:
    1. Recognition by Belarus that Crimea, Abkhazia and Ossetia belong to the Russian Federation.
    2. Recognition of the Donetsk and Lugansk republics.
    3. Recognition of the Transnistrian Republic.
    4. The lowest request (Lukashenka doesn’t have to kneel, but it’s better to let him stand) to accept Belarus into the Russian Federation.
    5. Recognition that he, Lukashenko, throughout all the years of his rule, was a multi-vector bitch. For which he asks for forgiveness, and is ready to spend the rest of his days in the position of deputy. Chairman of the frog breeding collective farm named after. Putin, who will create it in Belarus with his own money.

    24 hours should be enough for Alexander Grigorovich to make these statements, and the Belarusian parliament will willingly approve all this.
    And if not, then let him go to his friend Zelensky in Kyiv, and work there as a shochet in a synagogue.