"Strange configuration": There are disputes on the network regarding the plot of the Baku TV channel about the rocket that hit the house

Correspondents of Azerbaijani television presented a report, which showed one of the houses of the village of Fizuli (Varanda), which was allegedly subjected to shelling by Armenian troops. The article tells that the enemy used missiles, one of which fell directly into the territory of the private sector, breaking through the roof and breaking through the covering next to the stairs leading to the second floor.

The footage shows that the ammunition literally stuck "into the ground" at an angle of about 45 degrees and, great luck for the locals, did not explode.

This story has sparked controversy online. These disputes are connected with how the ammunition is located. So, skeptics were found who said that the fallen rocket is located in such a way that its rear part is behind the overlap plane. The message is that “if the rocket fell into the courtyard, there could be no overlap over it.

From comments on the net:

Strange configuration. The ammunition lies in such a way that it turns out that it flew through the house, but the damage is shown from a completely different side.

Supporters of the version that this is a "staging" refer to another piece of Azerbaijani TV, where a journalist disguised as a military man filmed a report with a woman who said "welcome home."

However, experts believe that conspiracy theories should not be sought in this Baku TV report.

The ammunition, breaking through the roof, fell almost vertically, and then began to fall down with its rear end and stopped, held by metal reinforcement, part of the stairs and a pile of concrete debris. But supporters of the conspiracy theory do not accept these arguments and, entering into a dispute, insist on their own.

The plot of the Baku TV channel:

Comments

[hrych]

Azerbaijani agitprop, senseless and merciless

[frog]

The same as Armenian. And, by the way, not only Armenian)))

[Piramidon]

Quote: frog

The same as Armenian. And, by the way, not only Armenian)))

It should be noted that Azerbaijanis are still winning the info-war.
Py.Sy. do not think that I sympathize with someone in this "civil strife". The best, for me, option is to call them from our Russian markets into the national militias. There you can recruit more than one army. Otherwise, it turns out that we, Russian citizens, buying goods from them at our bazaars, indirectly finance, for both sides, this conflict.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Piramidon

Otherwise, it turns out that we, Russian citizens, buying goods from them at our bazaars, indirectly finance, for both sides, this conflict.

It's scary to think about who you finance using Google, Mail.ru, Viber, WhatsApp, Yandex, as well as shopping at Pyaterochka and Perekrestok

[Cottodraton]

Watsap and Viber belong to the citizens of Israel) ... but it's one thing to use them for free (you don't have to use paid services), and it's quite another to buy material apples and tangerines

[Krasnodar]

Do you offer to buy Kuban directly from peasant farms, and go to Abkhazia for tangerines? ))

[Cottodraton]

I may be wrong, but 90% of what I buy from fruits is of Chinese origin, even if it is sold by the people of the Caucasus).
I think that ethical issues, in this case, should be asked to residents "to the Urals", because in our area the products of both Armenians and the peoples of Azerbaijan are rather rare exotic)

[Krasnodar]

I agree, but people from the Caucasus make money
Everything is very simple:
We bought a Chinese gadget and helped the Israeli military with a probability of up to 30%. The overwhelming majority of manufacturers use Zionist technologies in all kinds of mobile phones;
Ate Doshirak - paid for the bullet aimed at the head of a soldier of the brotherly DPRK;
Purchased a Lexus - threw money to Japanese revisionists demanding the return of the Kuriles;
Etc.

[vVvAD]

Not everything is so simple: if the rocket did not dig deep into the ground, then, perhaps, its tail could be turned by force of inertia in the opposite direction - if it flew at an angle to the surface, and not strictly vertically.
But, of course, this is a question for ballistics specialists.

[Cottodraton]

Your "subtle trolling" is not very clear to me ... I read about "great technologies created in the holy west" in Soviet journals for "science and life" for 80-87 years, therefore it is very controversial to pass off many inventions as Western or Israeli ... What they themselves created, and what they rested on, using the collapse ... no one already knows ... And I don't really believe in the stories about "lagging behind and the impossibility of repeating" ... but nobody really has yet I tried to work seriously in these areas. Although, the myth about the "unprofitability of cx" suddenly turned out to be a fake, when it came down ...

[Krasnodar]

We are now talking about:
A specific technology that allows you to reduce the thickness or size of the gadget while maintaining the original characteristics of the device. The assumption that for this, perhaps, some Soviet developments were originally used - has the right to life, but does not make the technology Soviet, because it was not made in matter, it was not used in the final product ..
I am writing about something else - by buying Chinese agricultural products you give money to a Caucasian speculator, a Russian owner of a transportation company, a German or a Swede who has produced a truck, etc.
To think that by buying from Caucasians, you are sponsoring the war - so you need to give up everything except what was made in Russia)).

[Cottodraton]

Well, I’m not a Nazi and I’m not sorry that comrades from Azerbaijan are earning this ... let it be.
Another thing is that this is not so in reality ... I really, at least, would like to believe it.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Cottodraton

I may be wrong, but 90% of what I buy from fruits is of Chinese origin, even if it is sold by the inhabitants of the Caucasus)

Even not Chinese, but local are resold. When I was there, my grandma came to the market to sell the products of her garden. No sooner had she laid out the goods than an Azerbaijani approached her, bought everything from her at a cheap price, gave his saleswoman and babkina pertrushka-ukrushka, began to be sold 1,5 times more expensive.

[Krasnodar]

Helped granny not to hang around the market for hours

[Piramidon]

Quote: Krasnodar

Helped granny not to hang around the market for hours

That doesn't make it easier for me. I would buy from that granny cheaper. I mean that these foreign Armenian-Azerbaijani traders also influence the price level in our country. And it would be better for me if they didn’t crowded together in our markets and bawled in their own languages, brazenly blocking the aisles and feeling like complete masters, but would soak each other in this Karabakh. People at 8-10 will stand in the middle of the aisle and "croak", discussing their problems. And they don't give a fuck that they interfere with the passage of others. I would kill these ...

[Krasnodar]

Yes they are all different
If you ask to leave, they leave. As for pricing, it is optimal to buy from gardeners, it's just not always convenient. I understand what you are talking about - the problem of diasporas with another culture really exists

[Piramidon]

Quote: Krasnodar

best buy from gardeners

This is clear. But for this you need to have your own transport and get to these "gardeners". But, if the gardener himself came to the market to sell his goods, then why should some sort of spread rot on him ... (it is difficult to find a word so as not to run into a ban) and not allow me to buy goods from the “gardener” at its price.

[Krasnodar]

They don't spread rot there - they just buy everything at once.

[avdkrd]

Quote: Cottodraton

I may be wrong, but 90% of what I buy from fruits is of Chinese origin, even if it is sold by the people of the Caucasus).
I think that ethical issues, in this case, should be asked to residents "to the Urals", because in our area the products of both Armenians and the peoples of Azerbaijan are rather rare exotic)

perhaps you live in an area adjacent to China, but in general, fruits from Turkey, Israel and the EU countries prevail in Russia.

[Cottodraton]

I live in Irkutsk and nothing is corny to us from the other side of the Urals.

[frog]

It should be noted that Azerbaijanis are still winning the info-war.

And not only in her, IMHO. Although the blitzkrieg somehow doesn't get lost either ...

do not think that I sympathize with someone in this "civil strife".

Similarly

The best, for me, option is to call them from our Russian markets into the national militias

Do not wait The news went on, sho even the departure of male citizens of military age was prohibited in Armenia. Apparently, from the influx of volunteers. Although, it may well be that I misunderstood. I'm not a mountain angel

Otherwise, it turns out that we, Russian citizens, buying goods from them at our bazaars, indirectly finance, for both sides, this conflict.

The only thing that we would not like fiercely is another "peacekeeping operation" by our blood.

Of course - it's time to call the chaos to order,
Everybody repeats this and makes a face,
But they pay for the words with a soldier's oath,
And the blood of innocent boys is shed.

In general, taking into account the objective (and, the stump is bright, the dull real), this has long been going. Well, success at international theater is traditional with us ...

[Graz]

where do they benefit if most of the countries that are decisive in this world called to stop the hostilities?

[Roman1970_1]

Otherwise, it turns out that we, Russian citizens, buying goods from them at our bazaars, indirectly finance, for both sides, this conflict.

And I think that resellers, sellers, etc. are financed.
I don't think they pay taxes in Armenia or Azerbaijan.

[venik]

Quote: hrych

Azerbaijani agitprop, senseless and merciless

Quote: frog

The same as Armenian. And, by the way, not only Armenian)))

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BOTH sides to the point played too into the "information war" (unfortunately, she Not only "informational" (!), but now we are talking about this component!), that the situation is more and more reminiscent of Winston Churchill's well-known statement about "the fight of bulldogs under the carpet"!!!
Alas!

[frog]

To be honest - to the icon lamp. Because a certain Omar Ha Em spoke even when on this topic ...

[SouzniK]

Quote: hrych

Azerbaijani agitprop, senseless and merciless

In the information war, they have succeeded .. Where not rush everywhere their warlike videos of attacks, etc ... And here it is quite possible a fake ... The shell is clearly from the "Grad" and so that it would fall vertically ..?

[Local from the Volga]

from the Grad ???? where did you come from?

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: Local from the Volga

from the Grad ???? where did you come from?

It's probably Meehan. Again the blizzard carries.

[Cyril G ...]

This is not a Hail in principle ..

[Hypertension]

Quote: hrych

Azerbaijani agitprop, senseless and merciless

Agitprop, but it looks like they throw more to the Armenians than the Armenians to them. It is not for nothing that Pashinyan has been spinning lately. Maybe the Azerbaijanis will seize Karabakh ...

[Insurgent]

And is it not a "dummy", "Smerch" missiles, after dropping the cassettes, dragged into the building, and so absurdly "stuck"?

This is how the unexploded Ukrop Gradina was pulled out of a residential building, I actually saw ...

There were no performances ... And with the angle of arrival, and with sticking, everything was normal ... What can not be said about the people who miraculously survived it ...

[Lopatov]

Why "dragged along"? She could well do it herself.
This is not a house, but a shed in the yard, open on at least two sides.

[kristofer]

As if everything is logical

[Reserve buildbat]

If we assume that the projectile fell almost vertically (and did not explode at the same time), and then began to collapse, it turns out that the projectile simultaneously dug a sickly trench under the floor, so that there was somewhere to turn for the head and central parts. In addition, for some reason, the armature on which the projectile "rests" (by the way, did the Tornado come in?) For some reason does not touch the projectile body, and there are no traces of contact with the armature on this body either (recall: the projectile allegedly fell almost vertically, began to collapse, and the reinforcement held him. It's ridiculous to mention the "concrete blockages". Where are they, except in the imagination of the "Xsperds"?)
Another "horror report" from the "white pots".

[mark2]

I support your statement. I would like to add rhetorical questions to the above.
Has the rocket arrived already empty? What is the fuel for such projectiles? Soot is not visible if it is still burning out. And if he didn’t land pumsty, then why didn’t there be a fire or fuel spill? He fell to the concrete floor. It is also not clear why the surface of the case is smooth. He broke through the floor. Let it be wooden, but there should be scratches. And then the part that sticks out is too intact. Falling at a speed of several hundred kilometers with an instant loss of speed on an obstacle, the tail should crumple everything else. The rocket must be more deformed than indicated. An example of an accident at 100 km / h there is no living space left on the car, but here they just dug it

[VyacheSeymour]

Has the rocket arrived already empty? What is the fuel for such projectiles? Soot is not visible if it is still burning out. And if he didn’t land well, why didn’t there be a fire or fuel spill?

I would go to the pilots let them teach me ... But do not tell me where to recruit experts on globalistic rocket? ...

[red machine]

and a pristine door in the background

[Lopatov]

Quote: mark2

I would like to add rhetorical questions to the above.
Has the rocket arrived already empty?

It is intended.

Quote: mark2

What is the fuel for such projectiles?

Powder. Burns out on OUT in the first seconds after starting.

Quote: mark2

He broke through the floor.

No. But he could have enough energy to get addicted to the place where he met the ground ...

In short, the Armenians, using the zero knowledge of the target audience, are trying to create the appearance that "Azerbaijanis are lying"

[Denimax]

As I understand it, this could be the tail section of an Azerbaijani missile that fell on its territory. After disconnecting, the warhead flew further?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Denimax

As I understand it, this could be the tail section of an Azerbaijani missile that fell on its territory.

No, it doesn't fall that far.
Usually, on the contrary, all this is found behind the target. Relatively close As was the case with Kramatorsk

[Ros 56]

Another delirium of the next white helmets. Judging by the angle of the rocket, they brought it there in their hands and stuck it at random.

[AVA77]

As the conflict escalates, a poltergeist intervened and teleported the missile.

[Victorm]

All the comments were both amusing and reminded:
- YOU'RE ALL LIES!
Only now addressed to Azerbaijanis. In general, a cool topic, beat his wife, hurt him, dragged the Grad shell and wrote off everything for the war ... In this particular case, it was lucky, but in another not very much, a woman born in 53 died. and there is clearly no time for filming in her house ...
The Russians did not notice that the Russians have grown black in recent years, and you do not perceive your own and others' pain closely and as personal, they have become like grape snails - not me, and okay, head deeper into your house and let's scribble ...

I especially liked a kind of continuation of the axis of the tail of the projectile - the "artist" is a kind of flounder man who knows nothing about three-dimensional space

[Reserve buildbat]

Should we pay and repent?
What do we care who is hammering whom? According to the mind, it is necessary to break in both of them, as we observe how two amero pads are biting for a piece of mountains. Both those and others fiercely drove out the Russians, and both now receive almost 60% of GDP from speculators stuck in Russia. So maybe it's easier and more useful for us to throw all these "hot mountaineers" home and let them defend their land? And then you can only see: "We've gotten ourselves into trouble, don't play around, Russians, save us."

[nnm]

From your somewhat earlier work today:

We do not need to rush to the eleventh anniversary of the October Revolution, the leader's birthday, etc., according to the principle of "still giving birth to my mother". It is necessary to methodically and systematically destroy enemy units, which is being done.

So let's go without:

The Russians did not notice that the Russians have grown black in recent years, and you do not perceive your own and others' pain closely and as personal, they have become like grape snails - not me, and okay, head deeper into your house and let's scribble ...

You either take off the cross, colleague, or put on panties.
Sincerely.

[Graz]

aha, the walls are clean without dust, the doors are all in place, the rocket itself

[APASUS]

It's just an empty engine from the Smerch MLRS rocket.

[rocket757]

If anyone understands, then the insurers, if the household is insured ... and so, there is a military conflict, no one is insured from accidental flights! within reach, of course. It's good that it happened so, no casualties! Although, they should have added the destruction from cluster munitions ...

[nnm]

War is force majeure, insurers are only rubbing their paws in anticipation of the subsequent influx of customers in peacetime.

[rocket757]

Force majeure, yes, there is such a place to be.
To insure against everything and everything is expensive.

[tralflot1832]

They may not invent anything. The CSTO has voiced today, Azerbaijan in its actions does not threaten the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Armenia. It's time to finish and sit down at the negotiating table, warriors always end with tables. This is mine.

[dgonni]

This is not a projectile, but an accelerating and marching block from the Tornado. The fact that he fell into or on the house suggests that the warhead, whatever it was there, flew further along the ballistic trajectory!
In fact, a piece of pipe with plumage. Completely safe. Destruction was caused by kinetic energy.
That's all I wanted to say!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: dgonni

This is not a projectile, but an accelerating and marching block from the Tornado. The fact that he fell into or on the house suggests that the warhead, whatever it was there, flew further along the ballistic trajectory!

Or that the cassette warhead has already been unloaded - and a "dummy" has already reached the house.

[Bakinec]

And it never occurs to anyone that the rocket could fall vertically and then fall on its side. Why are there fakes under the microscope on all videos and photos from the Azerbaijani side, and Armenian materials are presented as absolute truth?

[Tavi]

I join ... especially in many photos, missile part often seen sticking out vertically

[Katanikotael]

Because it is not a rocket but only a rocket engine, it could not explode. Rockets fly there from both sides, go figure out who is to blame.

[7,62x54]

The funniest story of the Azeri was about a woman in a blanket and two soldiers. Until they surpassed anything.

[Krasnodar]

The Armenians released a parody. Not spiteful, by the way)).

[Insurgent]

Quote: 7,62x54

The funniest story of the Azeri was about a woman in a blanket and two soldiers. Until they surpassed anything.

Quote: Krasnodar

The Armenians released a parody. Not spiteful, by the way)).

Link - https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6228123.html ("We are Azerbaijani soldiers")

[Vladimir61]

Who cares how he fell and on whose side. The main thing is that none of the peaceful people was hurt!

[Victorm]

Quote: nnm

From your somewhat earlier work today:

We do not need to rush to the eleventh anniversary of the October Revolution, the leader's birthday, etc., according to the principle of "still giving birth to my mother". It is necessary to methodically and systematically destroy enemy units, which is being done.

So let's go without:

The Russians did not notice that the Russians have grown black in recent years, and you do not perceive your own and others' pain closely and as personal, they have become like grape snails - not me, and okay, head deeper into your house and let's scribble ...

You either take off the cross, colleague, or put on panties.
Sincerely.

About the cross and underpants is clearly in the wrong garden. I did not understand the logic at all. Fighting and war between the armies is one thing, the methodical swotting of the settlements of Azerbaijan by Nazi Armenia is another thing. Hoping to sow panic, they beat from the FIRST DAYS, as they realized that they were losing ground and this time not "like last time." They beat them, including from the territory of Armenia, hoping that they could get away with, they say, the territory of the CSTO, but just like in July, they received pinpoint attacks from UAVs on positions and on their own territory. Literally today, the MLRS Grad was destroyed on the territory of Armenia, which hit the Barda mountain of the Republic of Azerbaijan. Questions? ...

[voyaka uh]

In Israel, during the rocket attacks, there were many such
strange cases.
In the 91st year, the BR Scud of the famous comrade Saddam Hussein struck through
a four-story house in Tel Aviv and was stuck strictly vertically, not
exploding. The photo was like a giant pipe neatly mounted into a building.
Nobody was hurt by happiness.

[Victorm]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: 7,62x54

The funniest story of the Azeri was about a woman in a blanket and two soldiers. Until they surpassed anything.

Quote: Krasnodar

The Armenians released a parody. Not spiteful, by the way)).

Link - https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6228123.html ("We are Azerbaijani soldiers")

From the Armenian agitprop, the most fun was Kill Dim, we watched and whinnied, we saw the situevina with our own eyes, and especially in the NV who loves donkeys and sheep
But the complete trash was, of course, when the private Stool KYAN ran away, broadcasting what they were doing to him, damn the fighters and the ensign and officers
They sat looking at the dirty things on which the armored personnel carriers were crawling and did not really believe, they came to pick them up, they confirmed that out of the three, two had a diagnosis after the examination of "vochkos". In recent years, they say in general they had no limit there in the troops.

[AlexG83]

He fell exactly vertically, then bent down, judging by the photo.

[Split]

He could not fall vertically, judging by the ceiling, there is an angle of 85 degrees, well, 80 ... this is from what distance it was launched

[Split]

Well, what to take from the humanities, they have bad sterometry

[AshPoseidon]

I saw something like this in pictures from Syria. It is not possible that the white whips have appeared here too.

It’s strange that they didn’t put a pillow under the bomb and the blanket had to be covered, and the bed was somehow not under a hole in the roof or, in general, from some other hut.

[Radical]

Configuration (ammunition), angle of incidence, and location are all different. What is the "bazaar" about?

[immobile2008]

Quote: VyacheSeymour

Has the rocket arrived already empty? What is the fuel for such projectiles? Soot is not visible if it is still burning out. And if he didn’t land well, why didn’t there be a fire or fuel spill?

I would go to the pilots let them teach me ... But do not tell me where to recruit experts on globalistic rocket? ...

What's wrong. It can be seen that it fell on the floor above, and then fell through with the bed, which lines I have a daughter at the age of two, logical thinking has better

[Viktor Sergeev]

The rocket, as I understand it, fell by parachute? There is another explanation for the fact that when falling vertically, it slightly entered the floor and fell, well, or the floors in the house made of concrete half a meter, but at the same time the rocket has a whole shank for some reason.

[Burbulator]

I won’t be surprised.
Initial firing exercises from AK-74 with conscripts. The target is stationary, chest, measuring 75 by 75 cm, range 100 meters ...
I personally saw the result of the shooting - when the bullet in the supporting wooden block of the target got stuck with its butt forward, and the bullet tip looked towards the shooter. How so? The bullet flew backwards? )

[trophy]

What is there to argue. there is a spent rocket engine in which, by definition, there is nothing to explode. it is likely that he was thrown into the house by a blast wave from the explosion of the warhead, and he could fly into the building even with his ass forward.

[nod739]

And I do not understand how the ammunition still had whole stabilizers, when passing the overlap