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New reason for criticism of the SP-2 in the European press: Germany did not check the calculations of Russia

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Opponents of Nord Stream 2 have found a new reason to find fault with the gas pipeline. Now they accuse the German government of not verifying the data provided by the Russian side.


The German newspaper Tagesspiegel published a material stating that the Ministry of Economy of the Federal Republic of Germany, defending the expediency of building a gas pipeline, relied only on data from Russian companies. This version was readily picked up by the Polish media Do Rzeczy, which is also not surprising, given that the United States is now using Poland as one of the main instruments of its political influence in Europe, and Warsaw follows the interests of the United States even to the detriment of its own economic interests.

It all started when the German MP Oliver Krischer, who represents the Green Party in the Bundestag (and the Greens, as we know, are actively used by the United States in the fight against Russian interests), submitted a request on whether Germany could do without Russian gas.

The German Ministry of Economy gave an answer based on calculations by Nord Stream 2 AG, based on which Europe's gas needs will increase by an average of 100 billion cubic meters per year. Recall that SP-2 will allow to supply to Europe up to 55 billion cubic meters of gas per year, while some more Russian gas will continue to flow to European countries through other gas pipelines.

However, according to the German and Polish press, the specialists of the Ministry of Economy of the Federal Republic of Germany did not check the calculations made by a Russian company interested in the project (Nord Stream 2 AG is a subsidiary of the Gazprom corporation). This circumstance gave rise to further claims both to the gas pipeline and to the actions of the German government.

However, as we see, when there are no real reasons to oppose Nord Stream 2, its opponents begin to cling to even such minor reasons. What would an audit of the calculations of a Russian company change, even if the German government ordered an independent examination of these calculations from some third-party organizations? Europe's demand for gas is growing - this is an objective fact.

These same environmentalists should understand that gas is replacing less environmentally friendly fuels from petroleum products in vehicles. It is not for nothing that Klaus Ernst, chairman of the committee on economics and energy in the German Bundestag, not so long ago said that Nord Stream 2 would make a great contribution to ensuring energy security in Europe and help implement the “hydrogen strategy”, about which German authorities are talking a lot now.

Many independent experts say that it is Germany that will become the main beneficiary of the construction of Nord Stream 2, excluding Russia, of course. Gas will be supplied to the FRG and the prices for this type of fuel may indeed go down. In addition, countries connected to the German gas system, such as the Netherlands, Denmark and even Poland, one of the most ardent opponents of the SP-2 launch, will also benefit.

However, what is the benefit of the population and even the economy if American economic and political interests in Europe are at stake? Therefore, for critics of the gas pipeline, the main thing is to prevent its construction so that the United States can sell its LNG in Europe. For the sake of dominating the EU fuel market, Washington has used all its capabilities - from sanctions to provocative articles in the European press.

But it is clear that Germany is not going to abandon the gas pipeline, which is profitable for it. It is unlikely that even if the Federal Chancellor is replaced, Berlin will take such a harmful step for itself as refusing to launch SP-2.
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  1. comradChe
    comradChe 6 October 2020 09: 55
    -5
    Let the entot project "burn with a blue flame"!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 6 October 2020 10: 00
      -4
      Let it "burn with a blue flame"

      For a long time he will have to burn ... there is a little more than a hundred kilometers to Germany, bear with me. smile
      There will still be roofing felts ... or else there will be oh oh oh.
      1. Temples
        Temples 6 October 2020 10: 01
        -4
        it is Germany that will become the main beneficiary from the construction of Nord Stream 2, excluding Russia,

        Russia is really not worth counting.
        The population will receive a bolt.

        Rather, the price of gas for the Russians will once again rise in order to compensate for the costs of building the pipe.
        Well, not at the expense of the shareholders to build pipes!
        And not at the expense of the players.
        Echo of Moscow must be kept.

        Yes little where the loot received from the sale of natural resources of Russia can be put!
        There are many pockets.

        Let them all freeze the fuck up in this Nazi country.
        They are regularly brought to death, and our owners of the national property supply them with warmth.

        I wonder if Gazprom plans to provide gas to Russia? Houses where ordinary Russian people live.
        Or do we, quilted jackets, have enough coal?
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 6 October 2020 10: 04
          -4
          These are the restless ones .. All would be worth the intrigues and crap
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 6 October 2020 10: 49
            +8
            New reason for criticism of the SP-2 in the European press: Germany did not check the calculations of Russia

            How long can you tinker with this unfinished SP-2? It is necessary to pump gas into the already lowered pipes, they will float up, and Gazprom will add the missing pipes on our bank and move the entire gas pipeline towards Germany. The Germans will only have to catch its end and prevent it from leaving instead of the German coast somewhere to Poland! I ask Gazprom to send the deductions due to me for the rationalization proposal to the card with the number ************! laughing wassat
            How I got this gas pipeline !!! yes
            1. Temples
              Temples 6 October 2020 12: 03
              +3
              I wonder who gives you a minus for ratsuha? laughing

              Here it is very good about the Germans good
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              The Germans will only have to catch its end
              wassat
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 6 October 2020 14: 38
                0
                Quote: Temples
                I wonder who gives you a minus for ratsuha?

                My site is full of ill-wishers. They do not miss any opportunity to give me a minus. I think they will minus me, even if I write "down with Putin". yes
                1. Temples
                  Temples 7 October 2020 07: 54
                  +1
                  These are not ill-wishers. These are the ones you hurt with your comment.

                  This means that your view of what is happening is not the same as that of those who are negative.
                  And many minus because they see the truth in the commentary, but cannot admit it themselves.
                  And from realizing the precariousness of their personal convictions, they put you a minus.

                  So, the minus is confirmation of the significance of your comment for the minus comrade.
                  1. Volder
                    Volder 7 October 2020 09: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Temples
                    And many minus because they see the truth in the commentary, but cannot admit it themselves.
                    Minus, because many opponents carry unfounded nonsense and frivolous, not reasoned nonsense - from the point of view of the negative.
                    And from realizing the precariousness of their personal convictions, they put you a minus.
                    Rather, on the contrary - because of the strength of their convictions, which do not coincide with the opinion of the opponent.
                    The minus is confirmation of the significance of your comment for the minus comrade.
                    On the contrary: minus signs make it clear that the opponent's comment has no value, and its significance is with a minus sign. It's like a kick in the ass.
            2. Undecim
              Undecim 6 October 2020 13: 30
              -1
              Deductions due to me for the rationalization proposal
              As royalties - catch the end.
              1. Fizik M
                Fizik M 6 October 2020 16: 46
                0
                Quote: Undecim
                As royalties - catch the end.

                Monsieur, YOU are not one of "these" for an hour? belay well in the sense of "Antwerp" lol
        2. Ragnar Lodbrok
          Ragnar Lodbrok 6 October 2020 10: 06
          +1
          Yes, it is. It was funny to watch how they burned by the pipes here in the comments, as if they had shares in their bosom. "Urgently lay pipes!" "Give the pipes!" "Chersky there!" .. With the same zeal, it would be better to build factories, and not sell natural pantries.
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 6 October 2020 10: 43
            -4
            Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
            Yes, it is. It was funny to watch how they burned by the pipes in the comments, as if they had shares in their bosoms.

            Do you want the finance ministry to extract from your wallet what was lost to the budget from taxes and dividends of Gazprom?
            PS By the way, why are you not satisfied with the gas processing plant and gas chemical complex in Ust-Luga and at Amur, which are being built by Gazprom just from the income from the pipes you do not respect?
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 6 October 2020 10: 56
            -8
            Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
            Yes, it is. It was funny to watch how they burned by the pipes here in the comments, as if they had shares in their bosom. "Urgently lay pipes!" "Give the pipes!" "Chersky there!" .. With the same zeal, it would be better to build factories, and not sell natural pantries.

            If we give up, it won't get any easier, because after that, any economic project with the participation of Russia will be thrown down tightly even in its infancy. Now you will object - they say you need to rebuild and provide for everything. I do not argue, but this case is clearly not three days or even three years. And is the capacity of this domestic market large with the purchasing power of the population equal to two or three living wages? Selling high-tech goods? And do we have enough of these goods, so that foreign markets would stand in line for them? The issue of completing the SP-2 from the category of an "economic project" has already grown into a category of "principled political", and not only for Russia. We must finish, for evil mattresses.
            1. Ded_Mazay
              Ded_Mazay 6 October 2020 11: 20
              -7
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              If we give up, it won't get any easier, because after that, any economic project with the participation of Russia will be thrown down tightly even in its infancy. Now you will object - they say you need to rebuild and provide for everything. I do not argue, but this case is clearly not three days or even three years. And is the capacity of this internal market large with the purchasing power of the population equal to two or three living wages? Selling high-tech goods? Do we have a lot of these goods so that foreign markets would queue up for them? The issue of completing the SP-2 from the category of an "economic project" has already grown into a category of "principled political", and not only for Russia.

              Absolutely.
              To promote your industry you need to clear your own sales market for it. For example, to squeeze foreigners out of government orders. By the way, this is already being done.
              As far as I understand, we came to a decision to strain state-owned companies with an obligation to invest in production, at the expense of funds that should have gone to the budget in the form of dividends and smeared in a thin layer without any good. I have already cited the example of Gazprom and the gas processing plants and gas chemical plants under construction. Russian Railways, as I understand it, is now harnessed to the expansion of the capacity of the BAM and Transsib.
              But judging by the number of minuses under our comments, the public is not very willing to ask boring questions, but wants everything at once.
          3. Igor Aviator
            Igor Aviator 6 October 2020 11: 26
            -4
            Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
            With the same zeal, it would be better to build factories, and not sell natural pantries.

            Hello, all the scatter! What, really "again, everything is simple .. or polymers?" Maybe you'd better look around? Okay, I’ll console you: at the moment, 18 giant factories are being built in the Russian Federation:
            1. Amur GPP - 790 billion rubles

            2. Amur Gas Chemical Complex - 700 billion rubles

            3. Zapsibneftkhim - 650 billion rubles

            4. Arctic LNG-2 - 600 billion rubles

            5. Baimsky GOK - 500 billion rubles

            6. Yamal LNG (4th stage) - 300 billion rubles.

            7. Olefin complex EP-600 of PJSC "Nizhnekamskneftekhim" - 234 billion rubles.

            8. Udokan MMC - 200 billion rubles.

            9. Gremyachinsky GOK - 180 billion rubles.

            10. Usolskiy potash plant - 180 billion rubles.

            11. Ust-Kutsk GPP - 170 billion rubles.

            12. Boguchansky aluminum plant - 160 billion rubles.

            13. Novatek shipyard in Belokamenka (TsSKMS, formerly known as the Kola shipyard) - 120 billion rubles.

            14. Taishet aluminum smelter - 120 billion rubles

            15. Shipbuilding complex "Zvezda" (Primorsky Territory, Bolshoy Kamen Bay) - 117 billion rubles.

            16. Baltic LNG

            17. Baltic Mining and Chemical Complex

            18. Baltic Gas Processing Plant (total investments of the last three projects 1.1 trillion rubles).
            подробности здесь: https://zen.yandex.ru/media/sdelanounas.ru/18-gigantskih-zavodov-kotorye-seichas-stroiatsia-v-rossii-5f71d1424fade30a2a6c214d
            Or is that not enough? AND! Well, yes! Now you will start whining that "this is not for an ordinary citizen ..." How you whiners got it! With grants from the State Department bummer - they themselves are not enough now? Go, chtol, work, eh?
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            2. pmkemcity
              pmkemcity 6 October 2020 12: 52
              0
              Quote: Igor Aviator
              Go, chtol, work, eh?

              You forgot about the factory of household robots fedorov in Skolkovo. Otherwise, yes - all the projects you listed are aimed at getting off the oil needle.
            3. Antonio_Mariarti
              Antonio_Mariarti 7 October 2020 12: 34
              -1
              All factories are for the natural resources of the Russian Federation, that is, you have not refuted the comments above.
        3. Woodman
          Woodman 6 October 2020 10: 18
          -1
          Quote: Temples
          I wonder if Gazprom plans to provide gas to Russia? Houses where ordinary Russian people live.

          I'm not sure about Gazprom, but:
          President Vladimir Putin instructed the government, together with the executive authorities of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, with the participation of Gazprom and other interested organizations, to ensure the gradual completion of the gasification of the country by 2024 and 2030.
          It was also instructed to form sources of funding for events on connecting Russians to gas distribution networks without attracting their funds[i] [/ i]; to approve mandatory standards for the list, terms and methods for determining the cost of performing technological work to supply gas to gas-using equipment ("last mile"), including its minimum set and maintenance; conclude a comprehensive contract for the supply of gas, maintenance and connection of related equipment using a "single window" and multifunctional centers that allow collecting information on behalf of the applicant.
          wait and see.
          1. Woodman
            Woodman 6 October 2020 10: 27
            +1
            Judging by the reaction, the local "local bohemia" is categorically against the gasification of Russia for someone else's funds, except for the funds of ordinary people ...
        4. Fungus
          Fungus 6 October 2020 10: 21
          -3
          If I lived in Russia, I would know that thousands of settlements are supplied with gas every year.
          1. Temples
            Temples 6 October 2020 10: 30
            +4
            It so happened that I live in Russia, but, damn it, not in those points about which you are writing here.
            And several tens of millions more live in the wrong places.
            But of course it is our own fault that we were born in the wrong places. laughing .

            And so, yes they report well!
            And Moscow, together with Sobyanin, is ahead of the rest.
            There are the longest skating rinks in the world and we demolish houses and build new ones and retirement hoo and free medicines if the corona is sick.
            In general, they are great there. In Moscow.

            And we in Russia (this is a little further than Moscow) live and don’t blow up.
            1. WeAreNumerOne
              WeAreNumerOne 6 October 2020 10: 47
              -6
              You just have to be patient a little, no luck, we still have a federation, so move your own authorities. There is nothing to blame on Moscow, Moscow is not here to solve the problems of every Russian, someone is missing something there.
              1. Antonio_Mariarti
                Antonio_Mariarti 7 October 2020 12: 36
                0
                Is it okay that it takes almost all the income and gives it back to the regions? For example, from my region, from 1 ruble of income, 4 kopecks are returned. Is it normal for development?
        5. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 6 October 2020 10: 54
          -2
          Quote: Temples
          Or do we, quilted jackets, have enough coal?

          There is deadwood.
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      2. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 6 October 2020 10: 13
        -12 qualifying.
        Quote: The same Lech
        Let it "burn with a blue flame"

        For a long time he will have to burn ... there is a little more than a hundred kilometers to Germany, bear with me. smile
        There will still be roofing felts ... or else there will be oh oh oh.

        Cod has spawned, have you built a lot?
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 6 October 2020 10: 16
          -6
          Cod has spawned, have you built a lot?

          At least some benefit from SP-2 ... the deadlines for the completion of the facility are shifting to the right, it seems like they promise the end of 2021 ... and you see, the Americans will come up with some other nasty thing ... but if seriously, these vicissitudes did not affect the life of ordinary citizens of Russia how we lived and we live.
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 6 October 2020 10: 24
            -4
            The dogs bark, and the caravan moves on. The pressure on the SP-2 will never stop. There is an order, and it is not even political. And while it is in the economic interests of the United States, Lyoshyk Navalny will be hounded as a Novice again and again. smile Then you can reanimate the Luddites (destroyers of cars from past centuries) for attacks with hoes on the SP-2 pipes ...
            It is necessary to stupidly push through the completion, commissioning and reaching the full capacity of the gas pipeline. Well, do not forget to re-elect Donald in November smile
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 6 October 2020 10: 33
              -7
              Quote: Thrall
              The dogs bark, and the caravan moves on. The pressure on the SP-2 will never stop. There is an order, and it is not even political. And while it is in the economic interests of the United States, Lyoshyk Navalny will be hounded as a Novice again and again. smile Then you can reanimate the Luddites (destroyers of cars from past centuries) for attacks with hoes on the SP-2 pipes ...
              It is necessary to stupidly push through the completion, commissioning and reaching the full capacity of the gas pipeline. Well, do not forget to re-elect Donald in November smile

              Why push something, now you can build, go and finish building. Well, how much was completed, from cod already 2 weeks how has it been? Maybe the problem is that we cannot complete it, and no one wants to help because of the sanctions? Don't you consider this option?
              1. Thrall
                Thrall 6 October 2020 10: 36
                -7
                Quote: Vol4ara
                we cannot finish building it

                We can, we can not ... What kind of "chamomile" is this? There is such a word - it is necessary. And it's not just about gas anymore.
                1. Vol4ara
                  Vol4ara 6 October 2020 10: 47
                  -4
                  Quote: Thrall
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  we cannot finish building it

                  We can, we can not ... What kind of "chamomile" is this? There is such a word - it is necessary. And it's not just about gas anymore.

                  Aha, the party said it was necessary, the Komsomol answered there. In fact, the party said it was necessary, Trump said sanctions, the contractors said "fuck it", folded up and left. And it turned out that in addition to the slogans, we ourselves are now unable to implement the project. And this is even more reputational damage than lost profits
                2. Temples
                  Temples 6 October 2020 10: 53
                  +5
                  Quote: Thrall
                  There is such a word - it is necessary.

                  Who do you want?
                  Tell me, honestly, who needs this pipeline?

                  Let the government explain on its fingers why a Russian citizen "needs" a gas pipeline.

                  There is no gas pipeline now. And we live as we live.
                  So when he appears we will live better?
                  The government transfers everything to loot, so let it announce the amount for which each of us will live better.

                  And if they can't, then let them shut up with their pipe.

                  Or is the government just enough to sell off resources, trade currency on the stock exchange and maintain social services for the proceeds so that there is no civil revolt?
                  All?
                  Is this the whole point of existence of the modern Russian state?

                  Every man for himself and a little retirement, but retirement a little later?
                  1. Igor Aviator
                    Igor Aviator 6 October 2020 11: 34
                    -5
                    Quote: Temples
                    And if they can't, then let them shut up with their pipe.

                    You better shut up yourself! Another whiner-all-propalschik! Go to work! There is nothing to breed dampness here! If you don't have enough money for your life - "don't care for ... the government ... blame!"
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 6 October 2020 10: 57
            +2
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            sort of promise the end of 2021 ..

            And the shareholder of Gazprom, Vadik 237, promised to connect the pipes by February of this year.
        2. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 6 October 2020 12: 54
          -3
          Quote: Vol4ara
          Cod spawned

          The sprat went to spawn ...
      3. Roman13579
        Roman13579 6 October 2020 10: 55
        -5
        there are only a few hundred kilometers left


        Such distances should be counted in years.
        For example, the distance to Alpha Centauri is 4,3 light years.
        And how much more to endure until the end of construction ??)
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 6 October 2020 10: 59
          -4
          And how much more to endure until the end of construction ??)

          Comrade Trump knows ... all the questions about the completion of the SP-2 to him.
    2. iouris
      iouris 6 October 2020 11: 00
      -5
      And why then do we need "this country"?
    3. iouris
      iouris 6 October 2020 11: 02
      -5
      Quote: comradChe
      Let the entot project "burn with a blue flame"!

      And why then do we need "this country"?
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 6 October 2020 09: 56
    -6
    "can Germany do without Russian gas"
    Of course it can, if it continues to use coal in the power industry, as it is now, massively.
    It could also increase the use of this extremely ecological pure fossil.
    And the pipes are certainly evil unambiguously.
    Direct security threat.
    1. vVvAD
      vVvAD 6 October 2020 10: 49
      0
      Well, yes: both parts for the airbus, and combines, and metal products, and HMS, and wheat are all a direct threat to safety. Yankees will teach you to buy without security threats and ... with threats wink
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    2. Svarog
      Svarog 6 October 2020 10: 01
      -2
      Quote: Temples
      Well, not at the expense of the shareholders to build pipes!
      And not at the expense of the players.

      They still have a resource .. they can offer to collect money via SMS.
  4. Labrador
    Labrador 6 October 2020 09: 58
    -1
    Given that Europa is striving to abandon coal and the atom, the need for gas will not decrease
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 6 October 2020 10: 00
    0
    Nothing fundamentally new. Greens work off their salaries, grants and other buns from the big boss.
    So the fight for the environment is understandable, right, but in everything we need to find a reasonable compromise !!!
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 October 2020 10: 15
    0
    This version was readily picked up by the Polish media Do Rzeczy
    So this is not surprising at all. The Pole appears out of nowhere when it comes to another dirty trick for Russia. German greens seem to be fighters for the environment, but more fascist Russophobes. And the Russophobe sees the Russophobe from afar, especially in Europe.
  7. Fungus
    Fungus 6 October 2020 10: 22
    -1
    Will be completed necessarily. The Germans need gas badly. And we have money.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 6 October 2020 11: 00
      -2
      Quote: Fungus
      And we have money.

      There is money in your pocket, and, well, pour it, love, girls, hurry me!
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 6 October 2020 10: 22
    0
    Or maybe it's true, let them switch to American LNG? .. Some strange concern of Russia about the German economy, they sanction us, and we give them gas. Is Russia a generous soul? Gazprom - not all dreams have come true ... managers, directors ...
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 6 October 2020 10: 32
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      Or maybe it's true, let them switch to American LNG?

      Even China does not agree with you smile
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 6 October 2020 10: 34
        +1
        Wow, you ... even so .. laughing
  9. Alien From
    Alien From 6 October 2020 10: 26
    -1
    Yes, I wonder what will win, loot or taking care of your own country ...
  10. Roman13579
    Roman13579 6 October 2020 10: 51
    -4
    The Russian pipe-laying vessel Akademik Chersky, after a few months in Germany, sailed to Kaliningrad. This was announced on Monday, October 5, by the Prime agency with reference to data from the Marine Traffic vessel tracking portal.

    It is indicated that the ship was docked in the German port of Mukran - the logistics base of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

    The pipelayer moved slightly away from Mukran on October 2 and again anchored. Now Chersky is back in motion and headed for Kaliningrad, where he is to arrive on October 7
  11. Roman13579
    Roman13579 6 October 2020 10: 53
    -4
    Europe's gas needs will increase on average per 100 billion cubic meters per year... Recall that SP-2 will allow to supply up to 55 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe per year


    Who invented this ??
    If it were so, then two streams a year would be built ..))
    1. dragy52rus
      dragy52rus 6 October 2020 11: 14
      0
      in your opinion, the rejection of coal and nuclear power, what can Europe replace and in what quantities?
      1. Roman13579
        Roman13579 6 October 2020 11: 45
        -3
        In our opinion, no idea ..
        But the numbers are + 100bn. annually .. it somehow does not fit in my head ..
        Against this background, JV2 from 50 billion will not change anything at all ..))
        1. dragy52rus
          dragy52rus 7 October 2020 13: 58
          0
          annually is unlikely.
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 6 October 2020 15: 37
        -3
        Quote: dragy52rus
        in your opinion, the rejection of coal and nuclear power, what can Europe replace and in what quantities?

        There is nothing easier than to go to the Deutsche Welle website and read what the Germans themselves write on this topic?
        To simplify the task: Germany has adopted a strategy for the transition to the use of hydrogen in energy and transport.
        1. dragy52rus
          dragy52rus 7 October 2020 13: 54
          0
          Where will the hydrogen be taken from or the energy for producing hydrogen is not written?
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 6 October 2020 11: 05
    0
    This is a strange reason for criticism and the material is rather muddy. The cost of the construction of the JV 2 gas pipeline is calculated according to Western TU and financial standards. In Russia, such gas pipelines were much cheaper. What is the problem, they asked for little money from Germany?
  13. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 6 October 2020 11: 37
    +2
    The German newspaper Tagesspiegel published an article ... This version was readily picked up by the Polish media Do Rzeczy

    Rather, the Poles threw a fake on Spiegel and then got hooked on the copier themselves ... like we have nothing to do with it.
    Although, not the point. The beneficiary in general across the English Channel is simply ventriloquism.
  14. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 6 October 2020 11: 41
    +1
    Damn, everyone will not calm down, the topic really got everyone ...
  15. Barmal
    Barmal 6 October 2020 11: 52
    -1
    Germany is not going to abandon SP2, but it is in no hurry to complete it. And to spit on a partner - spits and shakes sanctions. So it turns out - it's easier to deprive her of gas at all and immediately. Than to spend money on this construction. and promotion of SP2. Freeze the construction site. Turn off the gas. Santa Claus will come, then we'll talk. It's just that the winter was warm.
  16. orionvitt
    orionvitt 6 October 2020 17: 14
    0
    and the green, as we know, are actively used by the United States in the fight against Russian interests
    Green, as we know, is such a specific organization, to put it mildly, with limited social responsibility and is actively used by all who pay. In some countries, the green ones, for the environment, in other countries, on the contrary, for industry, and in others they are generally silent, as if they are not even there.
  17. 123456789
    123456789 6 October 2020 19: 21
    0

    And your ears are poorer,
    The Nightingale answers them, -
    And you, friends, no matter how you sit down;
    You’re not good at musicians. "
    Author: I. A. Krylov
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  20. boris epstein
    boris epstein 7 October 2020 15: 33
    0
    So that the Germans don't check something ?! I will never believe. Yes, the coronavirus crisis has left its mark on the economies of all countries of the world, but it will not last forever. Everything will return to normal.
  21. 1536
    1536 8 October 2020 07: 58
    0
    It is not clear why a goat needs a button accordion if she plays the piano? The Germans began to resemble the Pharaoh's cow, which ate and ate everything until it burst.