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"This is the embodiment of British naval power": AUG is formed in Portsmouth on the basis of the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth

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An aircraft carrier strike group is being formed in Great Britain, the lead ship of which is the aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth. Eight ships of other ranks are being added to the aircraft carrier based in Portsmouth, according to the press service of the Royal Navy.


In total, the aircraft carrier strike group (in addition to the personnel of the aircraft carrier itself) will have about 3 thousand servicemen. In this case, we are talking about the international NATO contingent. These are sailors and pilots not only from Great Britain, but also from the USA and the Netherlands.

At this stage, the AUG, formed in Portsmouth, is positioned as an international NATO one. It is planned that the first thing it should show itself at the exercises of the North Atlantic military unit Joint Warrior, which will be held in the North Sea.

Aircraft Carrier Strike Group Commander Steve Moorhouse:

The new British aircraft carrier strike group is the epitome of British naval power. She is today the centerpiece of all British fleet.

According to Moorhouse, HMS Queen Elizabeth will be protected by "a ring of destroyers, frigates, submarines." According to the commander of the aircraft carrier group, fifth-generation fighters will become the basis of the aircraft wing.



Steve Moorhouse:

We are ready to fight and win, even in the most difficult circumstances.

AUG's warships include HMS Diamond and HMS Defender, HMS Northumberland, based in Plymouth, HMS Kent, based in Portsmouth, and HNLMS Evertsen of the Netherlands Navy. The group also includes the USS The Sullivans (DDG-68). Food, fuel and ammunition will be supplied by support ships of the Royal Navy, RFA Tideforce and RFA Fort Victoria.
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  1. Alex777
    Alex777 5 October 2020 17: 06
    +3
    The embodiment of power with AWACS helicopters.
    They won't go far without the States. Appendage.
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 17: 18
      +1
      Varlne yourself, and with "the world - on a thread"!
      They can solve flat / pro problems on the entrusted site, based on the "declared performance characteristics"
    2. Avior
      Avior 5 October 2020 18: 02
      +4
      Even with helicopters, the capabilities are far superior to any other surface ship.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 6 October 2020 09: 57
        +1
        Alas, the AWACS helicopter is significantly inferior to the aircraft. One can only agree on the principle that an AWACS helicopter is better than nothing at all.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 5 October 2020 18: 08
      +4
      The air group consists of pilots from England, USA, Holland. One of the escort ships is also Dutch. The once mighty Royal Navy is unable to form one AUG. It is wonderful, as they say: "With the world on a thread, a beggar with a rope around the neck"))))
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 5 October 2020 18: 42
        +1
        Quote: TermNachTER
        The once mighty Royal Navy is unable to form one AUG.

        This is the "embodiment of British naval power" request
        Rather the epitome of British naval powers ...
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 8 October 2020 20: 49
          0
          Yes, in peacetime, aircraft carriers are an excellent means of putting pressure on the underdeveloped, but rich countries of the world at any point. But in the event of a conflict with powerful countries or a world war, these are excellent, easily defeated targets doomed to death.
      2. Bagatur
        Bagatur 5 October 2020 20: 30
        -5
        And the fleet of the great Russia kolko AUG is there? And when did you have, in principle, at least one, a real aircraft carrier?
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 6 October 2020 10: 02
          +5
          Great Russia, there is no show-off, like foggy Albion)))) The fleet is degrading along with England
        2. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 7 October 2020 17: 31
          0
          Quote: bagatura
          And the fleet of the great Russia kolko AUG is there? And when did you have, in principle, at least one, a real aircraft carrier?

          What for? For what purpose?
      3. SSR
        SSR 6 October 2020 01: 31
        +2
        Quote: TermNachTER
        The air group consists of pilots from England, USA, Holland. One of the escort ships is also Dutch. The once mighty Royal Navy is unable to form one AUG. It is wonderful, as they say: "With the world on a thread, a beggar with a rope around the neck"))))

        Minusators and others, they simply do not understand the mass staff of the "conflict", there is simply no place for England among the survivors.
        And dig !!! I and the members of the forum should discuss the thoughts of smart but "good" people? Nasral, - a new blockbuster, "nasral survivor" or "shit and survived where shit."
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 6 October 2020 10: 04
          +2
          Well, no one is against it. Let those who wish make a branch and pray to Anal.
      4. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 6 October 2020 13: 38
        0
        how to say .. they still have in one country, although they do not seem to be their 10 AUG, but which will come, just that, and they do not need to be maintained .. and based on the fact that the world is now ruled by "grandmothers" and not armies, so London never ceased to be the main financial capital of the world, but on the contrary, over the past 100 years it has only become steeper.
        P.S. I'm not a fan of Naglo-Saxons, but facts are stubborn things ..
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 5 October 2020 18: 15
      +1
      our Kuznetsov sucks, in their opinion, and their lungs with a springboard are good?

      lies at every turn.
      the lack of long-range aviation at the Britons requires a "cool"
      1. Bagatur
        Bagatur 6 October 2020 11: 12
        -1
        Unlike Kuzya, the Briton will serve for a long time and successfully!
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 6 October 2020 13: 58
          +2
          Yeah, under a false flag. They already wanted to sell the "Prince", but there were no buyers)))
    5. Sergey39
      Sergey39 5 October 2020 18: 21
      -1
      Quote: Alex777
      They won't go far without the States. Appendage.

      Considering that this aircraft carrier is on lease from the Pentagon ...
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 5 October 2020 18: 59
        0
        Considering that this aircraft carrier is on lease from the Pentagon ...

        I am not aware of the lease, but if so, then it is not surprising.
        This AUG will not float far on its own. hi
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 6 October 2020 11: 05
          0
          Was infa last year. I don’t know how it ended there.https: //svpressa.ru/war21/article/233138/
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 6 October 2020 10: 05
        +1
        And before that, they wanted to lease the EU and were looking for a buyer for the second ship)))
    6. credo
      credo 5 October 2020 19: 09
      -2
      Quote: Alex777
      The embodiment of power with AWACS helicopters.
      They won't go far without the States. Appendage.

      In vain sarcasm.
      They form a group in order to show a potential victim that they will attack with a "wolf pack", as under Hitler, gathering a shock fist from all allies and hangers-on for easy money.
      Numerous examples of recent decades have clearly shown the common interests of NATO countries and the former Warsaw Pact countries that joined them a little later, in the desire to profit at someone else's expense.
      So, such interest groups need to be taken seriously, because they will work out coherence closer to the Arctic expanses, which means they see Russia as a potential victim.
      There are no other options.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 5 October 2020 19: 45
        -1
        I have followed the creation of these ships from the very beginning.
        Even when the second was going to sell to someone.
        When they reach combat readiness, then let's talk.
        The fact that the Britons do not have enough money for this is very possible.
        There is no agreement with the EU yet. A huge problem.
        Hundreds of billions are leaving because of Brexit.
        The coronavirus has gone through Britain and continues.
        So it's not because of the good life that "wolf packs" mold. hi
        https://vz.ru/economy/2020/10/5/1063689.html
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 5 October 2020 21: 37
          +1
          Today I have published the exact amount, it took 1 trillion 200 billion pounds and the process does not stop. good
      2. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 5 October 2020 20: 08
        -1
        our people perceive it as surly ... that's why they say that they zhahnut on the go with loaves
    7. Victor67
      Victor67 5 October 2020 20: 04
      +5
      But we went far under black smoke, there is no question of AWACS at all, the air group is without radars and a combat load))) It's good to joke over them and throw caps up, think better what AUG will be given to our avik after repair, well, in addition to the tug ... And whose appendage are we going to be, China or India?
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 6 October 2020 14: 51
        +1
        It's good to joke over them and throw caps up

        It is good to compare the ship built in the USSR and the new British one. bully
        2 Ka-31 AWACS, tail numbers 031 and 032, were built for Kuznetsov.
        While they were transferred to the Black Sea Fleet.
        1. Victor67
          Victor67 6 October 2020 20: 04
          0
          Why compare them? They have an avik with an AUG and a flying fighter of the 5th generation, we have neither an avik, nor an AUG, nor an aircraft for this avik, well, if you, of course, do not consider the 33rd to be able to compete with their 35th)) ). And the worst thing is that we do not have a CVD for the construction of an avik, there are no specialists (designers, technologists), there are no specialists and production facilities for the construction of an AUG, and there is no 5th generation aircraft for all this, and there is NO MONEY !! !
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 6 October 2020 22: 16
            0
            They have an avik with AUG and a 5th generation flying fighter

            This is not enough. You also need to know where to fly and what to defend against.
            Zircon, again, has nothing to reflect.
            we do not have an avik, no AUG, no plane for this avik

            In 2018, we began to develop UVVP. I am sure that the 5th generation.
            And the worst thing is that we don't have a CVD to build an avik

            Not this way. There are new ones being created.
            But there is one topic that seems important to me: an attempt to create avics ahead of time will lead to a direct clash with the United States. Like China now.
            So everything has its time. No wonder nothing leaks out except for the bad news about Kuznetsov.
            I don’t understand one thing: for what Rakhmanov received the order. Maybe we don't know something?
            1. Victor67
              Victor67 7 October 2020 05: 48
              -1
              The fact that the VTOL aircraft began to be developed was once blurted out by the Deputy Minister of Defense at the exhibition a couple of years ago and was then forgotten. There is no more Yakovlev Design Bureau, and there is no one to do something according to the old drawings from the 141st. The design bureau was sent to Irkut, having kicked out all the specialists into the street (there are plenty of their own). Yes, and Borisov from the Moscow region has already screwed up for promotion ...
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 7 October 2020 05: 05
            0
            Quote: Victor67
            And the worst thing is that we do not have a CVD for the construction of an avik, there are no specialists (designers, technologists)

            In St. Petersburg, the aft parts for the Mistrals were built. If necessary, then I'm sure the nasal ones will be able to. Most likely copies of Mistral's drawings are somewhere in the archive. And if the Mistral is slightly lengthened by inserting a section of half a hundred meters in the middle, and a springboard is welded on the nose, then you will get quite a light aircraft carrier for a dozen MIG-29K, not counting the turntables. Not weaker than the aircraft carrier of the Thai royal yacht.
            Another thing is where to get money for this. "But you hold on." © Medvedev
            1. Victor67
              Victor67 7 October 2020 05: 28
              -1
              I will tell you about St. Petersburg: "Admiralty Shipyards" builds ships using a 100-ton crane on a slipway, and all over the world have long been working with a crane with a capacity of 1200 - 1500 tons, this is just an example. To start building something serious there, you first need to rebuild the entire plant, build dry docks at least 400x100 meters, for two products, otherwise it will be unprofitable. And the worst thing is that there are no specialists, the whole world has been designing for a long time with three-dimensional modeling, and not at the drawing board with a pencil in hand, something like that ...
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 7 October 2020 10: 26
                0
                Quote: Victor67
                the whole world has long been designing with three-dimensional modeling, and not at the drawing board with a pencil in hand, something like that ...

                AutoCAD is not a big problem to install, you can download it if you know where, or buy not the latest version for inexpensive, if piracy is not to your liking. Comp for this can be collected within $ 500, well, plus another $ 200 for a really huge monitor. And you can learn from a book, which is also easy to download. And again, let me remind you, "Ulyanovsk" was designed when computer drawing was in its infancy in the West, and I suppose that was not the case in the USSR, at that time he was sitting at a drawing board with a Whatman paper, though not in shipbuilding. It was a good drawing board, the German Reiss Ordinat III. But the problem with people, yes. Those who engineer in Soviet times are already preparing to retire, and they have no time to learn new programs. And the new generation of engineers, if what I heard, however, have not grown. And this is a pity, because the Soviet engineering school was no worse than the American one, and in some ways it was even better. I can judge that I happened to work as an engineer in America, although after a few years I retrained as a programmer.
      2. Vladimir1155
        Vladimir1155 6 October 2020 20: 54
        +1
        AUG will not be given to Kuza, there are no extra ships, but tasks for AUG, It will be useless in the port, like all Russian battleships in both world wars
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 5 October 2020 17: 10
    -1
    Well, they don't want to go to the South China Sea. There China and Gonkog are tired of waiting for them. Balabols! laughing
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    2. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 17: 27
      0
      Nonsense is sick ...
      Where they want, they go there, alas ((
      Hopes for PLO, as for biblical sages: neither one nor the other
  3. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 5 October 2020 17: 11
    +1
    No matter how puffed up Great Britain, but the status of the ruler of the seas remained in her past. Moreover, the British AUG - under the heel of NATO or the United States - from which side you look.
    1. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 17: 31
      0
      She, now, does not need it !!
      Its functions, in context, it COMPLETELY performs!
      Clean up the icons, until better times! @@ !!!
      A MASS of unsolvable questions, the Russian Navy has ...
      1. olegactor
        olegactor 5 October 2020 18: 03
        0
        She, now, does not need it !!
        Its functions, in context, it COMPLETELY performs!


        WHAT FUNCTIONS ... as far as I remember, North Korea drove off the aircraft carrier with a mattress pad, along with the accompaniment of the launch of one missile over the Japanese island ... and what if a dozen missiles fly by next to this aud ... diapers are not enough
        1. Temples
          Temples 5 October 2020 18: 27
          +6
          Quote: bessmertniy
          No matter how puffed up Britain, but ...

          What difference does it make where the metropolis has moved?
          There was London, there was Washington.
          The Anglo-Saxons are the main ones at sea as well as the previous several centuries.
        2. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 18: 59
          +4
          There is no desire to prove something by providing qualitative and quantitative justifications)
          Nobody forbids you to stay in your mriyas, hoping for "Poseidon"))
        3. The Siberian barber
          The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 19: 06
          +1
          Quote: olegactor
          She, now, does not need it !!
          Its functions, in context, it COMPLETELY performs!


          WHAT FUNCTIONS ... as far as I remember, North Korea drove off the aircraft carrier with a mattress pad, along with the accompaniment of the launch of one missile over the Japanese island ... and what if a dozen missiles fly by next to this aud ... diapers are not enough

          As I understand it, you are related to the Navy ... Your optimism about the strengthening of the enemy in the North Atlantic is simply surprising.
          1. olegactor
            olegactor 6 October 2020 00: 00
            +2
            As I understand, you have something to do with the Navy ... Your optimism about the strengthening of the enemy in the North Atlantic is simply surprising [b]

            THIS IS A REINFORCEMENT ... YES, AND IN THE NORTH SEA ... PLEASE AN AERODROME WITH GOOD air defense in the same holland or belgium will be more powerful
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 5 October 2020 17: 11
    +2
    Seven nannies have a child without an eye. Much ado about nothing.
  5. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 5 October 2020 17: 14
    0
    The US Navy adds an aircraft carrier for operations in the North Atlantic. Will deck AWACS and tankers buy from the USA?
    1. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 5 October 2020 17: 27
      +3
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      The US Navy adds an aircraft carrier for operations in the North Atlantic. Will deck AWACS and tankers buy from the USA?

      US carrier-based AWACS and tankers will not take off from this aircraft carrier. it is not equipped with catapults or brake cables and is designed for short take-off and vertical landing (V / STOL) aircraft. The aircraft wing, based on the ship, will consist of F-35B fighter-bombers and Merlin helicopters for AWACS and PLO.
      1. Crabong
        Crabong 5 October 2020 17: 36
        -2
        AWACS from the bases will operate without problems.
    2. Tsoy
      Tsoy 5 October 2020 17: 27
      +2
      The US Navy adds an aircraft carrier for operations in the North Atlantic. Will deck AWACS and tankers buy from the USA?


      There is no catapult so why? The project provided for a conversion into a classic aircraft carrier ala nimits, there was not enough money. Now only f-35 kvvp and helicopters. And yes, half of the air group still consists of US aircraft.
    3. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 19: 13
      -1
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      The US Navy adds an aircraft carrier for operations in the North Atlantic. Will deck AWACS and tankers buy from the USA?

      Is it necessary ??
  6. Bez 310
    Bez 310 5 October 2020 17: 21
    +2
    NATO navies are expanding.
    To my great regret, we
    there is nothing to oppose.
    1. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 5 October 2020 17: 53
      +2
      Quote: Bez 310
      NATO navies are expanding.
      To my great regret, we
      there is nothing to oppose.

      Are there any prerequisites for sea battles? Not a single Navy, as they say.
      Russia is not in a hopeless and helpless state. hi
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 5 October 2020 19: 51
        0
        Quote: Vladimir_6
        Quote: Bez 310
        NATO navies are expanding.
        To my great regret, we
        there is nothing to oppose.

        Are there any prerequisites for sea battles? Not a single Navy, as they say.
        Russia is not in a hopeless and helpless state. hi

        Nobody talks about battles)), of course, the Strategic Missile Forces are on guard !!))
        "Why do we need Armenia. Why do we need the Fleet?)) ... The Strategic Missile Forces ... is ...
        Maybe it is worth thinking a little "wider"? Not based on the cornerstone.
        Here, on the pages of VO, a lot of examples were given when the "club" may not work
        In my opinion, everything was logically planned, no?)
        .... "why ukrainians- trlko feed"
        ... Then we complain that they fly here to Sadovoye "at hand" ...
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 5 October 2020 22: 32
          +1
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          Maybe it is worth thinking a little "wider"?

          Let's take a broader view.
          NATO has 29 states. According to NATO materials, the volume of military spending of all 29 states of the alliance in 2018 amounted to $ 930 billion.
          The military budget of Russia in 2018 amounted to 2,8 trillion rubles, which corresponds to approximately $ 46 billion.
          What, excuse me, do you propose to match in the number of ships with NATO?
          The General Staff knows better than us how to distribute funds in order to ensure a reliable defense capability of the state.
          1. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 00: 10
            -2
            Firstly, I did not mention that we need to equal the number of blackouts)
            Secondly: there is a firm conviction that neither the General Staff, nor in general, the country's leadership, has any idea what the Fleet is for as a policy instrument, not to mention what tasks it should perform in the case of a DB
            ... there is a vague understanding that "as if FOR LONG" ..)) I proceed from my own observations of that chaos / shuffling, from side to side, concerning the type of program of the type of development, leading to the fact that we can be left without it at all
            1. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 6 October 2020 11: 12
              0
              Quote: The Siberian Barber
              there is a firm conviction that neither the General Staff, nor in general, the country's leadership, has any idea what the Navy is needed for as a policy instrument, not to mention what tasks it should perform, in the case of a DB

              Unfortunately, Putin, Shoigu and Gerasimov do not attend the VO forum, so everything is running like this in the Russian Armed Forces. laughing
              1. The Siberian barber
                The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 17: 40
                -1
                Besides common phrases, is there something to fend off?)) Or: "THERE they know!" ???)))
                Personally, do you understand the Navy's problems ??
                1. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 6 October 2020 18: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: The Siberian Barber
                  In addition to common phrases, is there something to parry?))

                  What to parry? You dragged Armenia and Ukraine to the phrase about increasing the composition of the NATO Navy.
                  They accused the General Staff of incompetence and, in general, the country's leadership.
                  Discuss this topic with Bez 310. Find mutual understanding. hi
                  1. The Siberian barber
                    The Siberian barber 6 October 2020 18: 33
                    -1
                    The General Staff and "neighbor" stuck, because of his vision / understanding, the competence (?) Of the persons who are obliged to predict! No more, no less .. If you do not observe this, THAT does not mean that THIS is not there!
                    The facts confirm ...
                    1. Vladimir_6
                      Vladimir_6 6 October 2020 19: 13
                      0
                      Alexey, our "vision" and "competence" are exclusively at the level of this forum. They are nothing compared to those professionals who are in the General Staff and in the Kremlin. Maybe not as fast as we would like, but Russia is strengthening its position. This is the main thing.
    2. Volder
      Volder 5 October 2020 18: 17
      -3
      Quote: Bez 310
      NATO navies are expanding.
      NATO countries are not obliged to enter the war if one of the NATO countries gets involved in this war. NATO's charter says about providing assistance, but which one is up to each country to decide. That is, humanitarian aid is also screaming. And this is a speech about war. And when it comes to an armed regional conflict (of a local nature), the obligations are even less. This I mean, the NATO navy is not necessarily all NATO countries put together. Few people want to get a nuclear strike on their country from Russia ...
      To my great regret, we have nothing to oppose to this.
      Don't worry, we're going to throw rockets at them. Russia has the best missiles.
      1. Andylw
        Andylw 5 October 2020 18: 24
        +1
        the States alone have 16,5 times more Tomahawk calibers than Russia
        1. Paul zewike
          Paul zewike 5 October 2020 19: 01
          0
          16,543 times, but that's not accurate.
        2. kventinasd
          kventinasd 5 October 2020 20: 42
          -3
          Quote: AndyLW
          the States alone have 16,5 times more Tomahawk calibers than Russia

          Did the Ministry of Defense personally report to you about the number of calibers?
          And can you tell me how many daggers, vanguards, Poseidons both have? And then I'm at a loss.
        3. Volder
          Volder 15 October 2020 12: 33
          0
          Quote: AndyLW
          the States alone have 16,5 times more Tomahawk calibers than Russia
          There is no use for tomahawks, tk. they will not reach Russia, because their carriers (destroyers and NATO frigates) will be destroyed 1500 km from the coast. Here you need to clearly understand that Russia has not only Calibers, Onyxes, Granites and Volcanoes, but also air-based anti-ship missiles (Kh-32, Dagger, etc.). In a threatened war period, our Navy will not be left alone with the US AUG. By the way, the ineffectiveness of the Tomahawks was publicly demonstrated in Syria in 2017, when two US destroyers attacked Syrian airfields. The Yankees disgraced themselves greatly and were caught in a lie.
      2. Bez 310
        Bez 310 5 October 2020 18: 48
        +4
        Quote: Volder
        we'll throw rockets at them. Russia has the best missiles.

        We have the best hats.
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      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 5 October 2020 19: 02
        +5
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        MKRTs Liana, Onyx, Caliber, Zircon ...

        Well yes...
        "Zircon" is not present, "Caliber" and "Onyx" can do nothing without control center,
        "Liana" in its infancy, "Dagger" on ships
        never worked.
        But we have a large stock of hats ...
    4. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 6 October 2020 20: 56
      +1
      there is at all, YARS, with 400, Borey, tu 160., Poseidon Vanguard .. ..cleaner than the vaunted AUG will turn out
  7. yehat2
    yehat2 5 October 2020 17: 31
    -6
    British Aug is the epitome of British pathos
    because the combat readiness of this compound is in question
    and it's not only about avik - there and pl are constantly under repair and security ships
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 5 October 2020 17: 42
      +7
      And how many aircraft carriers do we have on alert?
      1. Charik
        Charik 5 October 2020 18: 06
        -3
        And how many aircraft carriers do you have?
      2. Machete
        Machete 5 October 2020 18: 12
        -1
        And what can aircraft carriers do on the water at all in the face of a big conflict of equal opponents?

        That's right: not much. Target number one and will definitely not fight off the CD. And the meaning? Hanging outside the enemy air force and the CD? Then their air wing is generally useless.
        1. Vladimir1155
          Vladimir1155 6 October 2020 20: 58
          +1
          Quote: Machete
          That's right: not much. Target number one and will definitely not fight off the CD. And the meaning? Hanging outside the enemy air force and the CD? Then their air wing is generally useless.

          so it is AB only against the Papuans much, a serious enemy AB is only a target
      3. yehat2
        yehat2 5 October 2020 21: 11
        -5
        the same number is zero.
        their avik needs to be understood, for a long time there will be no combat readiness.
  8. Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 October 2020 17: 32
    -6
    Yes, only relics remained of the former might of the British fleet. ... they can't even create their own carrier-based fighter, they bought it in advance.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 6 October 2020 13: 44
      0
      and why should they create, if the Yankees can give in advance? In the metropolis, everyone has their own role.
  9. KCA
    KCA 5 October 2020 17: 38
    -2
    How many miles from Portsmouth would Queen venture? Or does AUG have 3-4 tugs? Well, so that from Suez to pull out, or somewhere else
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 5 October 2020 18: 21
      0
      We will find out in the coming years. In any case, "Queen" is new, gas-turbine, "Kuzya" is old, with initially dubious boilers. But "I won't leave him anyway, because he's good!" And then some clever guys suggest writing it off as soon as possible. The Britons decommissioned all their aircraft carriers in the 60s and 70s, and very quickly realized that they were wrong.
      1. KCA
        KCA 5 October 2020 18: 28
        -4
        Kuzya puffed, smoked, but walked, and then a new one, on the bottom of the algae had not yet sprouted:

        An aircraft carrier worth 3,1 billion pounds (more than 4 billion US dollars) leaked due to a poor-quality propeller shaft seal, whose function is to prevent water from entering the compartment. According to the newspaper Sun, due to marriage, an aircraft carrier collects up to two hundred liters of sea water every hour.

        I understand, 200 liters per hour for such a tub is not about anything, but, as an observant person, I noticed that if water penetrates through a small hole under pressure, then this hole per micron with each liter, but it becomes more, after 3 months of the hike it was - would be already ales kaput
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 5 October 2020 18: 33
          +3
          And what about the pumps? Pump out. In general, everything that can break is bound to break sooner or later. The experience is lost - the British did not build such ships ... in general, the last "Arc Royal" and "Eagle" were laid in ... 1943 .. They will put in repair and fix it. At the beginning of the 2000s, they wrote about Kuzya that there was water in its hold with a displacement of a destroyer. Nothing, liquidated.
          1. KCA
            KCA 5 October 2020 18: 38
            -5
            Let's see, but it seems to me that Britain has finally lost its competence in the construction of ships, and after the formation of the AUG and the campaign, so many things will come out that a year in the dock is provided
            1. Sergey Sfiedu
              Sergey Sfiedu 5 October 2020 18: 44
              +1
              Better to have two Queens than one Kuzyu. Aircraft carriers are generally repaired frequently and for a long time. According to Western experts, for more or less regular service, you need to have at least three aircraft carriers - one in service, one in current repair, one in overhaul. All the same, this is a complex technique. "Kuznetsov" did not hang around the docks weakly since his birth. And he is not alone, other big ships - TARK "Kirov", for example. Or Typhoon-class SSBNs. And the Yankees all the time have problems with the combat readiness of aircraft carriers. And one UDC burned down altogether.
              1. KCA
                KCA 5 October 2020 18: 57
                0
                Yes, Kuzya will be frozen for repairs for 10 years, then they will quietly write off, well, what is he? One in the sea is not a warrior, it is unrealistic to collect AUG for it, to walk in circles in the Barents or Mediterranean Sea?
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 5 October 2020 18: 50
            -1
            Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
            The experience is lost - the British did not build such ships ... in general, the last "Arc Royal" and "Eagle" were laid in ... 1943.

            They also had "Centaurs" from 1944-1945. bookmarks.
            Well, about the trinity "control cruisers with a through deck"don't forget. smile
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 October 2020 18: 33
    -1
    I remember an anecdote. It ends with the words of Ilya Muromets: "... well, Alyoshenka, sprinkle it with chalk!"
  11. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 5 October 2020 18: 40
    +1
    We are ready to fight and conquer

    Well, that's understandable. Are you ready to get snot?
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 5 October 2020 18: 57
    0
    There are still a lot of them in bulk.
    Another thing is that everyone has their own skin and they will think about it first of all.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 5 October 2020 19: 47
    -3
    The new British aircraft carrier strike group is the epitome of British naval power. She is today the centerpiece of the entire British fleet.

    And what does the power of the British fleet have to do with it?
    In total, the aircraft carrier strike group (in addition to the personnel of the aircraft carrier itself) will have about 3 thousand servicemen. In this case, we are talking about the international NATO contingent. These are sailors and pilots not only from Great Britain, but also from the USA and the Netherlands.

    The United Kingdom no longer has enough strength to assemble the AUG on its own, survived, only victory speeches in the media ...........
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  15. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 October 2020 21: 24
    -2
    "Eight ships of other ranks are being added to the Portsmouth-based aircraft carrier, according to the Royal Navy's press office."
    "According to Moorhouse, HMS Queen Elizabeth will be protected by" a ring of destroyers, frigates, submarines. "
    That is, there will be a "ring" of 8 "destroyers, frigates, submarines"? Or do these "8 ships" include support vessels?
    Some kind of thin group ... It is not clear what it is designed for.
  16. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 5 October 2020 22: 23
    -1
    "This is the embodiment of British naval power": AUG is formed in Portsmouth on the basis of the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth

    Let them do it, they know better. In the meantime, the Russian Navy will receive the Poseidon underwater drones until 2027. This was reported by TASS with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.
    1. Vladimir1155
      Vladimir1155 6 October 2020 21: 01
      +1
      I think for the British AB as one Poseidon it will be enough, and they will fly upside down in tartarars .... AB is not needed in a big war. now rockets decide everything.