If a pedophile is a human rights activist, then this is the intrigue of the special services

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Have you ever been to a swamp? Not where the water chomps underfoot and it's just unpleasant to walk. And even then only in the rainy autumn season. But in the present, with methane emissions, the stench from rotting plants. With swamps and islands of solid earth, with windows and floating mounds of grass. On where the frog on an unknown plant belonging to the leaf does not jump in panic into water or mud, but looks at you with contempt and regret?

Swamps, where it is obligatory, even if you know the path, you will find yourself in a disgusting slurry only because for some reason some bump will be higher than the others and the leg will slide down without finding support. And then, on solid ground, you will wash off the black slime from your clothes for a long time and finally spit on this stupid activity, having got used to the smell of the swamp. You will simply become a part of this swamp. Like frogs, leeches, moose philosophers standing in a swamp.



Today I just got to the swamp. But a completely different swamp, a swamp of human immorality, a swamp of human dishonor, a swamp of human meanness. Today I read another tearful letter from our liberal "elite of society" in defense of the illegally repressed human rights activist. This time it is not the "great actor" Efremov, but the "Russian historian" and the enemy of the "descendants of the NKVD executioners" Yuri Dmitriev.

Local historian with a strange love for children


Former head of the Karelian branch of the "Memorial" society, "historian" with incomplete secondary medical education, a person who went through the camp, though not for his political activities, but for a banal fight, and ... a pedophile. Now, after the decision of the Supreme Court of Karelia, we can speak about it directly. In the circles of our protectors for the people, he is known for finding the burial places of the victims of the repressions of the 30s in Sandomakh and Krasny Bor, and even published two books on this issue.

In 2016, a criminal case was opened against Dmitriev on charges of producing child pornography involving an adopted daughter and sexual abuse of his daughter. Naturally, Dmitriev did not do anything like that. Photos of a naked girl are just photographic documents for possible questions from the guardianship authorities.

An aunt comes from the authorities with the accusation that the stepfather beats his stepdaughter, and he gives her a photo of a naked girl! .. Please, not a single bruise in any intimate place! These are not my inventions, this is the real version of the defense that worked at the first trial! The court in Petrozavodsk recognized this nonsense as true!

But the second explanation did not work. Sorry for the intimate details, but the stepfather periodically checked the girl's crotch due to the fact that at the age of 8-9 years she had enuresis. So Dmitriev had to constantly feel his panties. Suddenly they were damp. A very caring stepfather. But the court believed this only twice. In 2018, at the third court, Dmitriev still received a term “below the minimum” - 3,5 years in a strict regime colony for acts of a sexual nature against a minor.

How then did our liberal intelligentsia smell like a swamp stench! How many art critics with advanced degrees have studied photographs of a naked girl and argued that this is not porn. How many journalists told the people that in Russia the executioner profession is inherited, as in France during the time of the Musketeers, and the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those Soviet Chekists now serve in the FSB. That it was they who forced the judge to make the wrong decision.

And how basely these descendants took revenge. The man who found the executed victims of terror was brought under an ugly article. But everyone understands that there was no such crime. This was proved by independent experts. And the court for some reason believed the addicts ... What is this if not the dictatorship of the FSB? I wrote it myself and felt ashamed of those who spoke and wrote this quite seriously.

But justice still prevailed. On September 29, the Supreme Court of Karelia revised the sentence to Yuri Dmitriev and sentenced him to 13 years in a strict regime colony!

What birches cry about


I forgive the birches. It will be about the reaction to the verdict of our liberals today. It is no different from the one two years ago. Everyone blows their own tune. Only now, instead of music, you get a cacophony. Or just cocoa. To begin with, an excerpt from the letter of this very intelligentsia to the chairman of the Supreme Court of Karelia Anatoly Nakvas:

Tell me, how is it at all possible that during a hearing on such an important case in the Supreme Court of the Republic the sound does not work or does not work well, and the defendant actually remains without competent protection? And how is it possible to suddenly appoint a new examination of photographs in a pornography case, in which Dmitriev is TWICE acquitted?
Is it possible that the numerous examinations at the Serbian Institute, a specialized psychiatric hospital in St. Petersburg, which proved the complete absence of "pedophile" thoughts and sexual deviations in Dmitriev's behavior, taken by the courts of first instance, are empty words for the court of appeal?
Just as the opinions of photography experts, among whom were employees of the State Hermitage, candidates and doctors of sciences, who did not see anything pornographic in the photographs, turn out to be an empty sound?

Interesting? The judge acts quite legally and does not violate any laws. Only from the point of view of our liberals, none of this is needed. Simply put, liberals dictate terms to the court. This is possible, but let it remain as before?

Nikolai Svanidze spoke about the insidiousness of the FSB:

... because in political matters we actually get the impression that the Federal Security Service is in charge of the court. So she guided them. That is, she reviewed the case and dictated a new verdict to the court, which suits them. From three and a half years they had already served, they turned into 13 years of real strict regime.

And how much care for Dmitriev's stepdaughter! The fact that it was not the stepfather who broke the girl's life, but the court is breaking. Nobody would know about these photos and bedwetting tests, and everything would be fine. And these monsters from the FSB posted the photo for the court to review. Here is what Lev Schlosberg wrote about this:

Once again, it should be recalled that according to the photographs, which were used as evidence of guilt, there were expert opinions not in favor of the prosecution, and most importantly, the words of the stepdaughter herself that it was not Yuri Dmitriev, but the case against him that was breaking her life.

There are many quotes. But do not waste your and your time on them. Another thing amazes me. To what degree of baseness must one reach to justify a pedophile! There are crimes for which even criminals hate. Imagine a criminal who himself committed a crime, quite possibly, even more than once, despises another criminal for what he has done!

Why do people sell their reputation


Everyone is accustomed to the fact that our liberals are periodically poked in their feces with the muzzle, like naughty kittens. Even they themselves perceive it as one of the costs of the "struggle for freedom." The stupid people, brainwashed by the TV and intimidated by the special services, at the behest from the Kremlin, “stigmatize” and “condemn”. But in fact, somewhere out there, deep in his soul, he admires the courage and heroism of such people.

And they are very surprised when it turns out that this very people does not go to demonstrations "in defense ...", to "peace marches ..." and other freedom-loving events. Moreover, he periodically beats the wrestlers in the most popular way. Fist in the face.

No, it’s not the people who do not understand anything, it is, on the contrary, “all too literate”, as one familiar tradeswoman said in the market after another scandal over the body kit of buyers. I do not want to comment on one message of Echo of Moscow. I think, quoting "Novaya Gazeta", the journalists of "Echo" did not even think about "too literate". We are talking about France and Germany:

The joint statement of the ombudsmen of the two countries was published on the website of the German Foreign Ministry, Novaya Gazeta writes. It says that the decision of the Supreme Court of Karelia, which sentenced the head of the local branch of Memorial to 13 years in prison, "is far from being impartial." Europe believes that this verdict is “a new attempt to silence those who want to disclose historical crimes in Russia, to preserve the memory of the Stalinist terror.

How simple everything is. Contrary simple. “Russian zoldat, surrender! We guarantee you a bowl of soup and a loaf of bread! " Modern Vlasovites ... For a piece of bread ...
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  1. nnm
    +21
    2 October 2020 06: 45
    We must pay tribute that the system, even on the second attempt, was able to pass judgment on this monster.
    It is not clear only why the girl's mother, who knew about these photos and helped to make them, was not punished as an accomplice.
    1. +16
      2 October 2020 06: 58
      Quote: nnm
      It is not clear only why the girl's mother, who knew about these photos and helped to make them, was not punished as an accomplice.

      Probably because if she was imprisoned, then with whom would the child stay?
      And liberals can be understood. This historian "fights and exposes the descendants of the executioners of the NKVD" What if these descendants will take on the current liberals? So the liberals will defend the pedophile with all the ardor and ardor. They are worth their weight in gold.
      1. nnm
        +3
        2 October 2020 07: 01
        A double-edged sword .... already the child's psyche was simply broken and it is not known what is better - to give up for education to relatives, the state, or to leave such a "mother".
      2. +28
        2 October 2020 08: 18
        This historian "fights and exposes the descendants of the NKVD executioners"

        Seeing what crimes the current descendants of Bandera policemen in Ukraine and liberals in Russia commit, I myself would have joined the ranks of the NKVD ... it is necessary to clean up what was not completed under Stalin ... all these human rights activists are more engaged in justifying the crimes of Russia's current enemies ... replace the very concept of human rights protection with the right to justify crimes against the people of Russia.
        I well remember how these human rights defenders like Kovalev behaved, deceiving our citizens in Chechnya ... urging our servicemen to surrender to the mercy of bandits and terrorists ... I have a big grudge against them.
        Few human rights defenders defend those who have been harmed by criminals ... they are more concerned with the rights of criminals than those who have been harmed by them.
        1. +10
          2 October 2020 08: 48
          The story with Sandarmokh smells bad, and for the liberals. They already tried to understand it in detail, but they did not give it, the whole point is that in that place during the Great Patriotic War, the Finns shot our prisoners. I'm tired of the fact that when one of the "gentlemen of the liberals" gets caught in the cases stipulated by the Criminal Procedure Code, then the gundezh immediately begins and you boil that the opposition is being poisoned and imprisoned in the country. Although my opinion is that if they do not sit in the zone, it is not their merit, but a flaw in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB.
          1. +2
            2 October 2020 22: 30
            ...... the story with Sandarmokh smells bad .......
            there is nothing documented. The beginning of this story is in the 90s. "Memorial" carried out excavations without permission, without having legalized it. They called it Karelian Katyn. And in itself it already sounds common. Ambiguity and deception.
            And under Stalin, everything related to arrests and punishments was strictly documented, no documents were found about Sandarmokh
            1. -1
              2 October 2020 23: 36
              Finnish archives, there are also documents preserved. And the story began in the 80s, with "perestroika" and at first "Memorial" was not there in any way. The future pedophile was tied up in an unauthorized excavation. It was here that he sharply became an adherent of Memorial and similar "democratic" organizations.
              1. 0
                3 October 2020 01: 27
                Akhedzhakova, Ulitskaya, some kind of filmmaker ... a whole lot of people who are not living together and cry one by one, sob .. write complaints. They say that he will not survive the prison. ..
                And not so long ago they were waiting for what would come out, preparing a solemn meeting.
                1. 0
                  5 October 2020 20: 32
                  We in Saratov released one of these ahead of schedule, so he raped and killed another 9-year-old girl. It's a pity the people weren't allowed to break it.
                  1. 0
                    5 October 2020 21: 05
                    these liberals have signed 250 people ..... few people personally know, but do not doubt his innocence. They support the memorial .....
                    I wrote to you in a personal ...
      3. +1
        2 October 2020 08: 47
        But is she really worthy of leaving the child with her, if she allowed it to be done with him? and didn't even deserve punishment?
      4. -1
        2 October 2020 10: 26
        And liberals can be understood

        The word - liberal - in Russia is already a curse ...
      5. -1
        2 October 2020 13: 41
        And what is such a legal method of exemption from prosecution for a crime?
    2. BAI
      +5
      2 October 2020 17: 55
      We must pay tribute

      There is nothing to give here. This is a shame on the judicial system. On the same facts, 3 different sentences! A clear confirmation of the corruption, incompetence and dependence of the court. Out of 3 sentences - 2 are deliberately illegal. Which is correct is a topic for a separate discussion and no one will prove anything now. The only thing that is indisputable is the venality of the court.
      1. 0
        7 October 2020 17: 54
        Quote: BAI
        A clear confirmation of corruption,

        Quote: BAI
        The only thing that is indisputable is the venality of the court.
        - I'm embarrassed to remind you that in this case there is no venality ..... Neither the Ministry of Internal Affairs / FSB, nor the guardianship authorities will not give money to the judge from their own pockets, and the defendant is also not an oligarch

        Very difficult material, and slippery ....
        Not as an excuse, but to explain how difficult the issue with children is ..
        I had one case - mine comes from the kindergarten with a neighbor's boy (we sometimes took them, when they asked) and discuss- "And Elena Vitalna beat me today!", "And me too !!", "Does it hurt?" "Very!!".
        I catch up with both and ask - "Elena Vitalna?", Both in chorus "YES !!", "Today ??", "Yes !!" "After the matinee?", "Yes !!" ..
        I begin to twist my ears to both of them at the same time, so that it’s not offensive that one is twisted and the other is not ... I know that I’m not pedagogically, I didn’t restrain myself ..... Elena Vitalievna (32 years old) has been lying with a broken leg for 2 weeks, and my relative is the teacher (60 years old) - which, in principle, is an angel and it is impossible to confuse them ..
        just came up with one - the other supported for the company. I explained to my neighbor why her ear is red, her hair stands on end, "What if he says the same way somewhere - that he is also beaten at home?"
        And I could, for example, file a complaint with the district police officer - that I tortured their child
  2. +12
    2 October 2020 06: 56
    But justice still prevailed. On September 29, the Supreme Court of Karelia revised the sentence to Yuri Dmitriev and sentenced him to 13 years in a strict regime colony!

    They should be killed, not imprisoned. I would like to believe that in the zone he will become someone's bedding for all 13 years.
    And they are very surprised when it turns out that this very people does not go to demonstrations "in defense ...", to "peace marches ..." and other freedom-loving events. Moreover, he periodically beats the wrestlers in the most popular way. A fist in the face.

    As Zadornov used to say, we cannot be formatted.
    And this liberal abomination is corrupt, spiritless and has no homeland. Their Homeland is a bank with their account from the Masters.
    1. +4
      2 October 2020 07: 05
      They should be killed, not imprisoned. I would like to believe that in the zone he will become someone's bedding for all 13 years.
      only it calms a little, gets its deserved.
      1. +2
        2 October 2020 10: 50
        A bit old for bedding ... perhaps at the stage he will accidentally choke on bread crumb and throw back the fins
        1. +2
          2 October 2020 16: 59
          A bit old for bedding ...

          So it will be a simple bastard.
  3. -1
    2 October 2020 06: 56
    shoot! without trial and investigation !!! together with the "intercessors" ....
    1. +9
      2 October 2020 07: 11
      shoot! without trial and investigation !!!

      If someone accuses you of pedophilia, are you personally ready to put a bullet in your head right away?
      1. 0
        2 October 2020 07: 19
        If someone accuses you of pedophilia, are you personally ready to put a bullet in your head right away?

        your insinuations are inappropriate ... I have a daughter myself ... and I will tear anyone for her !!!!
        1. +5
          2 October 2020 07: 23
          The head is needed not just to eat into it.
          1. -2
            2 October 2020 07: 29
            The head is needed not just to eat into it.

            more ... to compost the brain ... you don't have a daughter ... you won't understand ...
            1. +5
              2 October 2020 07: 33
              you don't have a daughter ... you won't understand ...

              You just don't know who and how much I have. laughing
              Cool it down ... And come back with more hectic comments ... drinks
              1. -1
                2 October 2020 07: 36
                Cool off or leave alone ??? let's calm down on this ... drinks
                1. -3
                  2 October 2020 07: 38
                  Cool off or leave alone ???
                  Excuse me from the phone and driving is not always accurate. Of course he offered to cool down. wink drinks
                  1. +1
                    2 October 2020 10: 42
                    no, well, stand up for pedophiles - not comme il faut, God forbid, of course, but I'll kill you, bastard, definitely, fuck different courts
                    1. +5
                      3 October 2020 15: 39
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      fuck different courts

                      Well, if you are more tolerant, then ... knock down, nit, right in court!
          2. +2
            2 October 2020 10: 25
            that's certainly a continuation of the stomach. to crush such crap. they gathered there ... A whole "Memorial".
        2. -19
          2 October 2020 07: 33
          Quote: Mouse
          I have a daughter myself ... and I will tear anyone for her !!!!
          Try to break the power vertical itself when it decides that it would be nice for you to sit, and what to use for this pictures of your daughter, about which some "expert" with a smoking bump decides that they are pornography is a very convenient idea.

          The charge of pedophilia was deliberately chosen because it is so grave that even the likelihood that this is not another fake such as planted drugs (in the amount of exactly one gram more than what is required for the criminal offense), people are subconsciously not ready to consider.
          1. +13
            2 October 2020 07: 41
            that this is not just another fake like planted drugs

            Please tell us a lot of photos of your naked daughter?
            For example, I do not have one of my daughters.
            1. -18
              2 October 2020 07: 47
              Unfortunately, I am not such a disinterested, kind and selfless person like Dmitriev, I did not adopt a girl with very poor health from the orphanage, and I did not have to monitor her condition for medical purposes.
              1. +10
                2 October 2020 08: 03
                did not have to monitor her condition for medical purposes.

                I would like to see a doctor's prescription for such actions, especially with a clarification on the mandatory photographic recording.
                It is strange why the mother did not do this, she was at least one sex with the child?
              2. -4
                2 October 2020 09: 44
                Quote: military_cat
                Unfortunately, I am not such a disinterested, kind and selfless person like Dmitriev, I did not adopt a girl with very poor health from the orphanage, and I did not have to monitor her condition for medical purposes.

                Is that the only thing stopping?
                I recognize the fighter against the regime, the rash of the vertical and the overthrow of the bloody dictator.
                Are you all right?
              3. -3
                2 October 2020 10: 54
                I suppose some quiet pervert himself, both mental and physical
              4. +5
                2 October 2020 17: 07
                Show me the guardianship authorities that need pictures of naked children. I strongly doubt the existence of such services. In such cases, the forensic examination will conduct a bodily examination.
              5. +1
                3 October 2020 03: 33
                I have three daughters. the third was just born recently. and that I can’t remember that at least once asked me to do this, even for medical purposes. to justify this abomination is simply surreal and meanness.
              6. 0
                5 October 2020 06: 52
                Well, why write something nonsense. Well, think for yourself. to control bedwetting, you do not need to feel the child's panties and got all these human rights activists to sit and talk today. right those people at that time or not is simply stupid and to find out after so many years why they were imprisoned for theft or not, for sabotage or something else. the time was completely different.
            2. -10
              2 October 2020 08: 51
              For example, I don't have one of my daughters

              We bet there is, if you look. And if they do not find it, the testimony is not so difficult to organize, as a rule.
              1. +2
                2 October 2020 09: 38
                We bet there is, if you look.

                Let's. How are you with the search results? Found or bet and give up? And by the way, what with the testimony would you like to see or hear, or is this easy to shoulder? If your answer to all questions is "no", then there is nothing to breed. request
                1. -7
                  2 October 2020 09: 53
                  Quote: Alex2048
                  Found or bet and give up?

                  Did I argue with you?
                  Quote: Alex2048
                  is it easy to shoulder?

                  To me? I am not your investigator.
                  Quote: Alex2048
                  there is nothing to talk about

                  In this you are right. Such issues should be discussed substantively and in a different procedural status.
                  1. +1
                    2 October 2020 13: 50
                    Did I argue with you?

                    You suggested
                    We bet there is, if you look.

                    I agreed.
                    I am not your investigator.

                    An investigator is never personal.
                    Such issues should be discussed substantively and in a different procedural status.

                    Curious about what procedural status you would like to have? The status of the investigator apparently does not suit you, as I understand you, too, as I understand it, you do not want to be a judge, because you think the court makes illegal or erroneous decisions. As a lawyer, I don't have a trusting relationship with you. Who do you want to be? laughing
                    1. 0
                      2 October 2020 14: 11
                      Specifically with you? I have no such fantasies.

                      The conversation began with the fact that, firstly, you hardly know exactly what you have and what is not on your computer. Secondly, you should not think that even a complete absence of your computer is a guarantee for you not to become accused of any anti-pedophile composition.
              2. 0
                3 October 2020 03: 36
                indications of what? that you photograph your child naked? are you normal
                1. -7
                  3 October 2020 12: 07
                  Quote: carstorm 11
                  indications of what?


                  I advise you to get used to reality already. Although, of course, you don't want to - however you want.

                  https://mobile.twitter.com/_U_R_I_c/status/1286076167783698435
                  1. -1
                    3 October 2020 12: 17
                    I live in reality. went through and such nonsense as this tweet and heard a bunch. any normal lawyer will solve all this in a day. we do not live in Israel, and people like this are not imprisoned in batches with indirect, grave offenses. all the problems people have is that they consider themselves smarter than others. stating this should at least show examples. and heroes running around the network who can put all of them every day for a hundred people. want to believe them, your business.
                    1. -7
                      3 October 2020 13: 17
                      Quote: carstorm 11
                      we do not live in Israel and people like this are not imprisoned in batches with indirect grave offenses

                      Oh my God.

                      Indeed, we do not live in Israel.

                      However, I see no reason to convince you. If they don't plant it, they don't plant it. I wish you happiness, health, good mood.
          2. 0
            2 October 2020 13: 58
            I do not belong to fans of liberasny, but the trick is hackneyed. Instead of accusing the same Beria of political crimes or abuse of authority (in which they themselves are deeply involved), he was charged with pedophilia. Precisely for the vilification in the public eye. There is one more trick - to declare insane and put you in a madhouse. I don't know if the subject of the article is a pedophile or not, and no one will ever know. But the trend itself, since the court said, it is EXACTLY a pedophile ..... Strains. There is no chance to defend your case.
            1. +2
              2 October 2020 17: 17
              Why did they decide to blacken Dmitriev? Is he the most terrible memorial for the "bloody gebny"? there are others with much louder "revelations". No, for some reason they decided to declare him a pedophile!
              Quote: Beregovyhok_1
              I do not belong to fans of liberasny, but the trick is hackneyed. Instead of accusing the same Beria of political crimes or abuse of authority (in which they themselves are deeply involved), he was charged with pedophilia. Precisely for the vilification in the public eye. There is one more trick - to declare insane and put you in a madhouse. I don't know if the subject of the article is a pedophile or not, and no one will ever know. But the trend itself, since the court said, it is EXACTLY a pedophile ..... Strains. There is no chance to defend your case.

              And why exactly Dmitriev was declared a pedophile? Is he the most dangerous memorial for the "bloody gebny"? There are others with much louder "revelations". But it was Dmitriev who was declared a pedophile. Probably, nevertheless, there were grounds for this.
              1. 0
                2 October 2020 18: 33
                I don't know who Dmitriev is at all))) I have an extremely negative attitude towards Memorial. And there are completely legal and honest ways to combat this wrecking organization. I meant that the technique itself is old and effective. The brightest and most holy are our children. For them, we will eat anyone. And at the level of instincts, without delving into the essence of the matter, all the readers gave the expected reaction - "Impale", "Dismember", "Highest measure" and so on. The brain turns off, emotions turn on. The article is clearly ordered, shaping public opinion by manipulating emotions. Now Dmitriev will never be cleaned up for a century, even if the higher court wins and acquits itself. The brand has been delivered. Society perceives him as a pedophile, and all his arguments and disclosures are now nothing.
                1. +1
                  2 October 2020 20: 13
                  It turns out that Dmitriev did not please someone very much, since they decided to disgrace him in this way?
                  1. 0
                    2 October 2020 22: 26
                    Perhaps this is a deliberate run over the "Memorial" as a whole, so that others are discouraged. This organization seems to be funded even from abroad. Or maybe he really is a pedophile ... We don't know the truth. You can only trust one of the parties.
            2. 0
              3 October 2020 16: 02
              Perhaps the fact that he successfully combines the features of a false historian and a false search engine is not enough to suspect that something is wrong with him in principle? This is a person whose very existence, for the reasons already indicated, is a problem for society. And the fact that this encyclopedia of pathologies was recognized by the court as a pedophile is just a good option for ending the story ... at least for any normal person who does not want to be in the same galaxy with such a subject.
    2. 0
      2 October 2020 10: 43
      cut!! slow and painful !!
  4. +14
    2 October 2020 07: 03
    But justice still prevailed. On September 29, the Supreme Court of Karelia revised the sentence to Yuri Dmitriev and sentenced him to 13 years in a strict regime colony!

    Pedophiles are imprisoned, and not for several years - they go out and continue. Such monstrosities will never calm down, because it has been proven (and the experience of the whole world testifies to this) that without the use of additional punishments, medical measures, pharmaceutical, surgical nature, it is impossible prevent recurrence of the pedophile. Impossible. 98% is a relapse. It is better to nail it right away, it still does not heal.
    1. +8
      2 October 2020 07: 22
      Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
      To put pedophiles on a stake, and not for several years - they go out and continue. Such monsters will never calm down,

      So immediately for life. Let him earn his ration by labor and ask for pardon every 10 years.
  5. nnm
    0
    2 October 2020 07: 05
    And I think that such people should not be shot - it is too humane in relation to them. Only for the toughest zone, at least 15 years. Otherwise, they will get off too easily. And then a separate public register of such creatures - so that all neighbors know who lives next to them, so that all work colleagues know, and so on.
    1. -2
      2 October 2020 07: 18
      nonsense .... it is necessary to clean ... look to the west, there is almost the norm, if not already a fait accompli ...
      1. -2
        2 October 2020 09: 17
        Quote: Mouse
        look to the west, there is almost the norm, if not a fait accompli ...

        In fact, pedoysteria was invented by the American left (radical feminists with their idea of ​​cake (any) as violence against a woman) in a touching unity with the American right (the concept of cake as a sin to be fought, especially in terms of seducing the "little ones"). The combination of these ideas has led to an extremely irreconcilable and at the same time extremely broad understanding of "pedophilia".

        As for Russia, the mizulins simply could not help pushing into Russia absolutely any rubbish that is in Western practice. This story began around 2003. I remember, with considerable surprise, I saw a hard (blue and BDSM) CPU on the Russia channel, they say, look, citizens, what is going on. Mr. Tolstoy, the conscience of the nation, seemed to show this.

        By the way, about Blue orchids and the like. Naturally, the Americans closed these shops. Having simply ruined the monetization, these nuggets were sent to fans of VHS-cassettes, receiving an advance payment for the Western Union. Shop on the couch, God forgive me. The FBI got it covered quickly.

        Naturally, anything can happen now. Someone here and there at times. But making money on such content is no longer possible.
  6. +6
    2 October 2020 07: 09
    "involving an adopted daughter and sexual abuse of a daughter."
    -------
    Why do you think juvenile justice exists?
    Here the author of the law on domestic violence, Oksana, God forgive me, Pushkina spoke out in defense of gays who used surrogate mothers and against whom the TFR opened cases of child trafficking.
    “The guys are not guilty of anything, in the current situation our duty is to protect them from lawlessness and obscurantism,” explained Pushkina. She also pointed out that, according to the order of the Ministry of Health, donors during fertilization can be either married couples or single women, but not men.

    In this regard, the deputy noted that the existing legal gap leads to the threat of unlawful removal of children from families due to the sexual orientation of single fathers, which, according to Pushkina, “is not a basis for restricting rights, and, moreover, is unprovable,” said Pushkina ...
  7. +2
    2 October 2020 07: 12
    Shaw here to discuss, deserved, get what you deserve.
    1. 0
      4 October 2020 05: 43
      A 65-year-old acquaintance, a drunk sleeping man on the second floor, his wife cooking in the kitchen. A 5-year-old neighbor's girl ran up to play with her granddaughter, her parents took her away, ran around the house and ran to the second floor, and a minute later ran home. The girl's father passed, beat up a friend, called the police. And that's it! Six years, with a minimum of twelve. No evidence. Three years served on a shave, by the way he lives normally. So from prison and from the bag!
      1. 0
        4 October 2020 09: 21
        From the scrip, but the prison ...
        Each case must be considered individually.
  8. +3
    2 October 2020 07: 21
    Without the materials of the case, I really do not want to assert something about guilt, but in this case this is not required. There is a court decision! A good or not a good trial, whether he is biased or not, it does not matter very much, today he is legitimate and his decisions are legitimate, which means Dmitriev is a pedophile. It's a pity, but the verdict is not harsh enough in my opinion. But the judge knew better, because he, unlike me, saw the case materials and personally listened to the participants in the process.
    But for the persons who justified and justify the pedophile, the article laments for interfering with the activities of the court to administer justice, they are not just trying to justify the pedophile in their kitchens or on their websites, but they sent a letter to the chairman of the court, that is, a person who has administrative resources in relation to to an ordinary judge.
    1. +7
      2 October 2020 09: 29
      Quote: Alex2048
      today he is legitimate and his decisions are legitimate, which means Dmitriev is a pedophile

      This is the usual legalistic interpretation. Deceitful and criminal.

      If suddenly you are condemned for something that you did not do, please remind this idea of ​​yours in the last word, so that it would not occur to anyone to support you.
      1. -1
        2 October 2020 09: 32
        This is the usual legalistic interpretation.

        It's my opinion. You apparently have something different and you cannot justify it except by the transition to personalities. Sorry sight.
        1. +5
          2 October 2020 09: 49
          Quote: Alex2048
          can’t justify

          Justify? Should I give you an introductory course in legal theory? I have to justify that the verdict may be erroneous, it may be illegal, and the law itself may be deliberately criminal?

          Why should I do this?
          1. -2
            2 October 2020 13: 37
            Should I give you an introductory course in legal theory?

            Apparently, you still know little about this.
            I have to justify that the verdict may be erroneous, it may be illegal, and the law itself may be deliberately criminal?

            Thus, you simply unprovenly threw a known substance into court.
            1. +3
              2 October 2020 14: 10
              Several innocent people were shot for the murders committed by Chikatilo. Actually, therefore, the moratorium on the death penalty. Judges are people, and so are prosecutors. Everyone is wrong.
              1. -1
                5 October 2020 01: 22
                Quote: Beregovyhok_1
                Several innocent people were shot for the murders committed by Chikatilo.

                Who have not been shot before for similar cases None of the previously convicted have been shot
            2. 0
              2 October 2020 14: 26
              Quote: Alex2048
              Apparently you don't know much about it anyway

              Well, apparently so apparently.
              Quote: Alex2048
              they threw a known substance into court without proof.

              To court?

              You see, if I will express my views on the trial, then at a more opportune moment. Until which moment, frankly, is far away.
              1. 0
                3 October 2020 16: 07
                Immediately evident - liberda. The fact that this something justifies an animal that, without having scientific regalia, allowed itself to "dig" something, says a lot
      2. +1
        3 October 2020 16: 05
        That is, you believe yourself to have the right to evaluate court decisions without having full access to the evidence. This is the position of false and criminal.
  9. +3
    2 October 2020 07: 43
    Well, I hope this monster will be received with "honors" in places not so remote. No.
  10. 0
    2 October 2020 07: 48
    I don't get along on such sites, and I don't know what is going on there.
  11. +4
    2 October 2020 07: 56
    Abstracting from the category of liberals / anti-liberals, it should be noted that all lamentations in favor of Dmitriev are based on idealism. Those. not scientific facts, irrefutable evidence, but opinions. For example, even the Serbian Institute, a completely authoritative source of scientific knowledge, draws it as a witness proving that the accused has no thoughts of a criminal nature. Of course, pedophile Dmitriev's thoughts are no longer to be found. Yes, and not for thoughts in general, we are judged, but for accomplished deeds.
    It is also noteworthy that it is the representatives of the alternatively liberal-minded public who have similar arguments, continuous references to opinions, subjective assessments and other idealisms, and not to direct facts. And it is even more disgusting to give the opinion of the victim himself. She needs a competent psychologist, and not such a stepfather, whom she will protect for the self-preservation of her personality, even if they find a tough video or something else that directly shows this crime.
    Be that as it may, I personally am glad that in this case the case seems to be inclined to work precisely with objective evidence of the essence of what was happening.

    P / S But still I will leave one thought not in defense, but for a possible explanation of Dmitriev's behavior. He's an orphanage himself. It is possible that he sincerely does not understand that such actions are a crime because he himself went through something similar or witnessed a similar crime in his childhood.
  12. 0
    2 October 2020 08: 00
    Yes, count it!
    1. -1
      2 October 2020 08: 09
      And every day and more than once, I also thought about it!
      1. +2
        2 October 2020 09: 30
        It’s always amazed how much morality’s attention to anus.
        1. 0
          2 October 2020 09: 36
          European historians ascribe the love of Ivan the Terrible to stake the opposition to plant. Maybe because of the West in our genes, if anything, without a stake.
        2. +1
          3 October 2020 16: 08
          Whether it's a liberda. Give them the genitals of little girls.
  13. +2
    2 October 2020 08: 03
    Normal term for a pedophile and no matter what political orientation he is
  14. 0
    2 October 2020 08: 03
    Darkness and abomination. An abomination because there was an opportunity to dodge and even bounce off altogether. Darkness because the legal system allowed it. And there is more darkness. Because of him, anyone has a chance to "go" by photographing their own child in shorts. And in exactly the same way, in the same system, a git bastard (abstractly) has every chance of rinsing his brains for high art, or even for family concern in general.
  15. +4
    2 October 2020 08: 09
    everyone was so concerned about the fate of the pedophile .... and the child? with a child what ????
    1. +2
      2 October 2020 08: 24
      Quote: Masha
      everyone was so concerned about the fate of the pedophile .... and the child? with a child what ????

      The child needs a psychologist. Even when this person realizes what happened to her, she will instinctively protect the parent, no matter how bastard and villain he is from the point of view of society. The victim herself cannot overcome this line, because this will mean her psychological death. This will require a long work of a competent and honest psychologist.
    2. +1
      2 October 2020 09: 31
      To hell with the child, he is no longer needed.
      1. 0
        3 October 2020 16: 10
        I am sure, liber, they will figure it out without your advice. It is a pity that there is no separate article for the public acquittal of convicted criminals. And where is it to be, if the same representatives of minorities rule as this "nine"
  16. -1
    2 October 2020 08: 17
    Quote: Shuttle

    P / S But still I will leave one thought not in defense, but for a possible explanation of Dmitriev's behavior. He's an orphanage himself.

    I will supplement myself. By no means do I mean that orphanages are a hotbed of pedophilia due to collective education in them. Rather, the opposite is true. However, this is not excluded in principle. In addition, it is possible for Dmitriev to transfer to his stepdaughter. He, like her, was deprived of contact with his biological parents. And as a result of this, it is possible that he sincerely believes that this is exactly what the real care of real parents about their child looks like. After all, everything he knows about it is gleaned by him from the outside. He has no personal experience. And the desire to care is possible. I emphasize that this is not an attempt to justify his actions, but a possible explanation of the motive for the crime.
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    1. +1
      2 October 2020 09: 33
      Quote: romey
      does not haat Max Tesak very much

      It was a funny joke, thanks.

      Let me remind you that the highly spiritual sword was killed by exactly the same people who are now killing the soulless Dmitriev.
      1. 0
        3 October 2020 16: 13
        Well yes. Tesak, like other right-wing extremists, a liar, has been purposefully exterminated for 15 years. Liebers, even perfect monsters like Dmitriev, have been gently rinsed for years under the supervision of Svanidze, Akhedzhakova and other criminals at the feeding trough.
  18. -4
    2 October 2020 08: 45
    Quote: The same Lech
    This historian "fights and exposes the descendants of the NKVD executioners"

    Seeing what crimes the current descendants of Bandera policemen in Ukraine and liberals in Russia commit, I myself would have joined the ranks of the NKVD ... it is necessary to clean up what was not completed under Stalin ... all these human rights activists are more engaged in justifying the crimes of Russia's current enemies ... replace the very concept of human rights protection with the right to justify crimes against the people of Russia.
    I well remember how these human rights defenders like Kovalev behaved, deceiving our citizens in Chechnya ... urging our servicemen to surrender to the mercy of bandits and terrorists ... I have a big grudge against them.
    Few human rights defenders defend those who have been harmed by criminals ... they are more concerned with the rights of criminals than those who have been harmed by them.

    A photo of a naked girl and that's it? Yes, there are plenty of such photos in every family. If this is a monster, then where is the real evidence? it what scum - our law enforcement system, if they did not find real evidence for this monster!
    1. +1
      2 October 2020 09: 16
      What scum is our law enforcement system,

      Take it easy with haloperidol and take it easy.
      The court sessions were most likely held behind closed doors because of the child, this is the practice. And you were not told all the circumstances and evidence? Disorder. Further along Lavrov.
    2. -1
      2 October 2020 10: 38
      PHOTOS ... not one ... not two ... on the count of such a "photographer" ...
    3. +2
      2 October 2020 12: 21
      A one-year-old child? Well maybe. But not 9-10 years old.
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  20. +7
    2 October 2020 09: 05
    The problem is that at least it has been known about this "human rights activist" for a long time.

    But news like “ex-policemen organized a pedo-club in Moscow” “brothel in the ex-mayor’s house” if it flickers somewhere, it disappears right there.

    Here one liberal ran over a man, remember, they put him in prison?
    But in the video, Semin came across a list of officials and children who crushed, but got out of the water dry. And there are many of them, much more than a lone liberal ...

    Remember the "drunken" crushed boy? So the woman had long been released quietly. (wrote).
    1. 0
      5 October 2020 06: 57
      And that since there are all bad things, then this does not need to be punished. So what do you think
      1. 0
        5 October 2020 09: 04
        No.
        It's just that in fact there are probably more of these pedos in PZHV. Punished / Unpunished, it doesn't matter.
        But about this, no, no ...

        Once upon a time there was a "silver mask" show. There the man told how he sold children.
        Officials. New Russians. But I don't remember about human rights activists. Didn't seem to say.
        And?
        But nothing. I have not heard of any investigative actions about the man and about the buyers ...
  21. 0
    2 October 2020 09: 18
    To what degree of baseness must one reach to justify a pedophile!
    *******

    This is the key phrase. The term of PUNISHMENT of 13 years is not short. But this is not a period of re-education. Pediphiles are not re-educated. If he survives in the zone, he will continue if possible. A mentally unhealthy individual should either be isolated from society for life or radically treated with medication to a condition harmless to others ... IMHO
  22. 0
    2 October 2020 09: 34
    A pedophile must face severe punishment. Perverts, rapists, fanatics have no right to freedom. Each crime has its own name, so read:
    ... What a smell of swamp stench from our liberal intelligentsia then!
    ... It will be about the reaction to the verdict of our liberals today ...
    ... To the fact that our liberals are periodically poked in the stool with the muzzle ...

    The wiki says:
    Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) is a philosophical and sociopolitical movement that proclaims the inviolability of human rights and personal freedoms.
    Liberalism proclaims the rights and freedom of every person as the highest value and establishes them as the legal basis of social and economic order.

    Why are you, Mr. author, so diligently weaving a completely worthy definition to accomplices, to accomplices, to accomplices, to accomplices involved in the justification of the villain? You can also name certain categories: prostitutes, militants, lads. Why call everything by its proper name? And who are ordinary citizens? Terpily, victims?
    Is such a topic really necessary for "VO"? Let's measure before each other the strength and dimensions of our own hatred for such scoundrels, knowing in advance both the truth of human morality, and the peculiarities of punishing criminals, and his further fate in prison.
    I am more concerned about the mother's behavior in this situation and our justice system, (the system of punishment and correction) whose activity allows recurrence of such crimes ... And there are also identified cases with the participation of "high-ranking" and "especially wealthy" lovers of carnal pleasures with persons who do not have reached adulthood.
    Indeed, the topic is a swamp, falling into which (after reading the first paragraph of the article), you begin to understand that someone really wants people to poke around in this dirty slurry.
    hi
  23. -1
    2 October 2020 09: 40
    Here is what Lev Schlosberg wrote about this:

    This is from the "apple".
    It was he who, after the municipal elections, called all the citizens of Russia who vote not for his party - stupid and narrow-minded, but the employees of the commissions as criminals and enemies.
    These are clearly fighting for destruction, without options or compromises.
    If the "communists" have at least an idea - building a socialist society, then these have nothing at all. Only destruction, at any cost.
    1. 0
      3 October 2020 16: 17
      Schlosberg, like the entire Yabloko party, is a supporter of violations of the Constitution of the Russian Federation (with amendments that do not allow non-recognition of Crimea), but because of the Libers and corrupt officials in power, he still freely walks around the country he hates.
  24. 0
    2 October 2020 10: 11
    Every rabble and scum have found a convenient cover for their misdeeds and crimes. There will always be mourners-go-ots and the same scum who are ready to howl about the fate of the "victims" of the regime. It's time to explain to everyone and show by examples that the law is the same for everyone. And for those in power and money for those who have, and for bawlers with dishonest bohemians. But so far, this problem is unfortunately. Our laws are written mainly for hard workers and unlucky representatives of business circles who have no connections in government agencies.
  25. 0
    2 October 2020 10: 32
    Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok
    additional punishments, medical measures, pharmaceutical, surgical nature, it is impossible to prevent the relapse of the pedophile. Impossible. 98% is a relapse. It is better to nail it right away, it still does not heal.

    Better to be castrated "chemically" up to the neck .. This degenerate has "lust" written on his face. The same ones protect them. Check out some "shows". What is not an eccentric letter ... - then a liberal, then some kind of human rights activist. About Ukrainians, I’m already silent - my dime a dozen. Recently, the Belarusian freaks were also pulled up.
  26. +1
    2 October 2020 10: 32
    What are you complaining about?
    To the fact that the current government has given all the media at the mercy of the "liberals" and even dumps them budget billions so that we are stuffed with all kinds of "chernukha"?
    On the fact that for 20 years in Russia a clear position has not been developed that reflects the interests of the country and the people?

    The fish has long gone rotten ...
  27. +2
    2 October 2020 10: 49
    I have long formed the opinion, even if someone considers it to be a mistake, that all these liberal comrades of ours are terrible perverts: pedophiles, homosexuals, sexually preoccupied and so on, which is connected with this ... well, still, in the west it is "values"
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    1. 0
      3 October 2020 16: 34
      1. The main cannibal of Karelia is Dmitriev himself (let me remind you, a self-styled "historian-archaeologist", for which, in the opinion of any sane specialist, it is necessary to hang up).
      2. Koltyrin is the same "historian" as Dmitriev, only he is also a local historian (local history, as you know, is not a science)
      3. "Nudity" involving a child is quite rightly criminalized. For no one fully controls their electronic devices, where all this is stored.
      4. Delirium. The number of children is decreasing due to the growth of consumption and social expectations (as proven by sociologists), and not from pedoysteria, which generally affects few people, because only those who climb into the public space (and their minority) attract attention. The case with Dmitriev is as simple as an old saying - "The higher you are .., oh, sorry, a monkey climbs a tree, the better you can see its bottom."
      1. 0
        3 October 2020 18: 40
        Eka stuck you, I'm looking. I will not catch it all over the thread, I will unsubscribe here.

        Quote: helvetic
        self-proclaimed "historian-archaeologist", for which, in the opinion of any sane specialist

        Are the sane historians from Medinsky, Moscow Region and the UK? Against this background, you will not understand me with methodological claims to diggers.
        Quote: helvetic
        local history, as you know, is not a science

        If you want to substantiate that local lore should be tried as rape and killed in prison, then no, you have not convinced me.
        Quote: helvetic
        For no one fully controls their electronic devices, where all this is stored.

        You are absolutely right. Garbage can come and drain the contents of the computer to the state TV, which happened in this case, let me remind you for a minute. And so everyone who needs it has long pumped this stuff up to their ears, google "Mizulin 11 terabytes".
        Quote: helvetic
        The number of children is decreasing

        The number of children is decreasing, as there is less sense from them, and more problems. Their insane legal status is one such problem. Not the main one, of course.
        Quote: helvetic
        the better you can see her butt

        More precisely, there would be a person, but there would be an article.
        right-wing extremists, liar, purposefully exterminated for 15 years

        Liberals in the Chelyabinsk SIZO dispose of? Didn't expect from them.
        I am sure, liber, they will figure it out without your advice

        Already figured out. As far as I remember, the girl was returned to the very people who passed her to the orphanage.
        if the same representatives of minorities rule as this "nine"

        Well, why not steer.
        little girls' genitals.

        Liberals - not for girls, let me remind you, even the little ones will not go.
        Quote: helvetic
        you believe you have the right to evaluate court decisions without having full access to evidence

        Yes.
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  30. 0
    2 October 2020 11: 44
    I think it is necessary to revive the NKVD again and legalize the death penalty. For especially zealous liberals.
    In general, good practice is labor camps, in the fresh air.
    Moreover, they could produce some kind of product, and moreover, at a more than competitive price - since there is no need to pay workers, only the minimum maintenance - clothing, food rations and security.
    No "civilized" country would compare in price. A lot of money would be saved.
    Moreover, we have many internal enemies. First of all, I would brush up the IT guys - they always reached for the "west"
  31. +2
    2 October 2020 14: 47
    I looked at the photo of the "hero" and immediately from "Gentlemen of Fortune": "What a disgusting mug!" (C)
  32. +1
    2 October 2020 15: 09
    I will not write about bloggers, journalists, actors, scientists, etc. I’ll write easier, in Medvezhyegorsk, where life has long been different from the good nature that was once filmed in the film "Love and Doves" the attitude of the population towards Dmitriev and Koltyrin is normal. The town is small and everyone, in principle, knows about everyone, and nevertheless they did not commit reprisals and did not burn their houses.
    1. -1
      3 October 2020 16: 40
      So many of the descendants of the "heroes" from Finka are ready to lay the table ... What does this say, if not the dominance of the Dmitrievs in the cultural space of the region?
      1. -1
        3 October 2020 17: 23
        You do not know well the activities of Dmitriev and Koltyrin, they are one of the keepers of information on the defensive battles of the fall of 1941, the offensive of Soviet troops in 1942 and the battles for the liberation of Medvezhyegorsk. For example, Koltyrin was the only person who had a scheme of Finnish fortifications in and around Medgora, and he shared it with both search engines and local historians. Free of charge.
        1. -1
          3 October 2020 17: 43
          When and where did they defend their dissertations?
          1. -1
            3 October 2020 18: 01
            Mr. Sokolov, who killed and dismembered a girl in St. Petersburg, defended a dissertation on a historical theme, and what ??
            1. -1
              3 October 2020 18: 04
              And the fact that, being a maniac and the head of a sect, he remains in the eyes of the unbiased professional community a historian (not the first row). As well as a number of other criminals. And Koltyrin and Dmitriev actually committed crimes against cultural heritage, digging without education.
        2. -1
          3 October 2020 17: 48
          If never and nowhere, or not in specialty 07.00.06, then everything else looks like an attempt to shield people who, using a hole in Russian legislation (and there is one, because something that is under 100 years old is for some reason not protected as an archaeological monument ), carried out amateur excavations, destroying archaeological sites
          1. -1
            3 October 2020 17: 49
            No matter how hard I tried, I did not find a single work meeting the criteria of a scientific monograph, or an article in peer-reviewed editions from these "historians".
          2. -1
            3 October 2020 18: 02
            Nonsense is not the port, RVIO and the Russian Search Movement do not think so
            1. -1
              3 October 2020 18: 09
              VAK considers it or not, but RVIO and PDR do not assess the qualifications of scientists
            2. -1
              3 October 2020 18: 10
              And to open your mouth about science, it would be nice to defend yourself first, and publish a couple of dozen articles. Search engines (of which half the country are self-proclaimed) are generally a headache for qualified scientists (as well as local historians)
  33. +14
    2 October 2020 21: 43
    pedophile

    Bring back the death penalty for pedophiles!
  34. 0
    5 October 2020 06: 43
    And what if a person is a liberal and a human rights activist as he calls himself. he cannot be punished for crimes. and some human rights defenders are all one-sided. there is no one to protect our citizens from the arbitrariness of the US authorities. There is no one to protect grandmother from the arbitrariness of housing and communal services. or they don't pay money for taoke, and what about a good dad. enuresis is checked by fingering panties and just looking at the bed.
  35. 0
    5 October 2020 20: 23
    How tired they are to normal people. Gay Europeans would have gone back to their Europe.