"Tested at strong current": BMP-3F is being prepared for new Indonesian ships

The BMP-3F, created to arm the Russian marines, serves along with the BT-3F armored personnel carrier exclusively for the benefit of Indonesia, and never entered the Russian Armed Forces. Jakarta appreciated the new technology and intends to equip the landing ships being built at local shipyards with it.

According to the Marine Corps, the Indonesian military is preparing to transfer the BMP-3F on board the new landing craft docks (LST) KRI Teluk Kendari 518 and KRI Teluk Kupang 519 of the Teluk Bintuni project. Each of them can accommodate 361 people. landing, 10 tanks Leopard 2A4 or 15 BMP-3F infantry fighting vehicles.

In anticipation of the transfer of the BMP-3F to ships, they underwent additional tests, demonstrating the preservation of the hull tightness when moving in water with a strong current. Thus, the possibility of their unloading from the ship and subsequent movement to the coastline was confirmed.

At the same time, PT-76 amphibious tanks were tested, which continue to serve in the Indonesian Marine Corps and are considered one of its main weapons due to the insufficient number of alternative equipment.
Indonesia is the sole operator of the BMP-3F. On orders from 2009 and 2012, 54 cars were transferred to it. The 2019 contract provides for the supply of another 22 units.

Comments

[Alien From]

Don't let the dust in your eyes with the Indonesians .....

[Lopatov]

At the same time, PT-76 amphibious tanks were tested, which continue to serve in the Indonesian Marine Corps and are considered one of its main weapons due to the insufficient number of alternative equipment.

Strictly speaking, there is no "alternative technique" at all.
A promising medium tank is not amphibious, like the purchased Leopards

[donavi49]

Well, after all, there is not a PT-76, but a PT-90 - they put there a 90mm Cockeril gun + a new stub - solid-state all-electric gun / turret stabilization + Detroit Diesel 6V-92T diesel.

Well, so amphibious forces include:
modernized PT-76
BMP-3
BMP-3F
BMP-2
BTR-50
Poorly floating AMX10

bought cheaply in Korea - crocodiles LVT7

Installation batch of BTR-4M in a special version

BTR-80
K61 and PTSki

Quite saturated. Zoo slightly, but quite good.

[Lopatov]

Quote: donavi49

they put there a 90mm Cockeril gun + a new stub - solid-state all-electric gun / turret stabilization + Detroit Diesel 6V-92T diesel.

Reasonable.
I wonder if the tank will pull a Belgian turret with a 105 mm gun, like on the Kaplan MT? Or capsize afloat ...

[venik]

Quote: Spade

I wonder if the tank will pull a Belgian turret with a 105 mm gun, like on the Kaplan MT? Or capsize afloat ...

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It looks like it will be too heavy for a PT! At the slightest excitement or tangible current: "...I just do not know! You just can't vouch for anything... ".

[Lopatov]

Quote: venik

It looks like it will be too heavy for a PT!

There, the weight of the tower is 1,75 tons. And the "Luna" rocket weighed 2,3 tons
And the launcher could sort of float with a rocket on the rail.

[venik]

Quote: Spade

And the "Luna" rocket weighed 2,3 tons
And the launcher could sort of float with a rocket on the rail.

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Never heard them swim with rockets...... Honestly, I would be extremely surprised! In theory, it should "bury its nose in the water", and the metacentric height .......

[Bad_gr]

Quote: donavi49

Zoo slightly, but quite good.

Could also buy our "Octopus", it will fit perfectly.

[Mavrikiy]

Good ships have good BMPs. Leopards are not well understood. As far as I remember school, the islands are mountainous. Indonesia is going to defend its territories.

[donavi49]

There are not many leopards there - this is a sledgehammer in case of solving Malaysian or other issues. Well, there is also industrialization. Forests for felling, and then either a technopark or a palm oil farm. Roads, bridges and that's all.

For the rest, they will have a Turkish-Indonesian tank.

AMKhs modernized.

Well, a bunch of wheeled vehicles, including their own Anoa with a bunch of modifications from an armored personnel carrier to a wheeled tank or a tow truck.

[yehat2]

The BMP-3 still remains a very gemorno-floating vehicle.
You need an experienced and hardy driver to swim on it, in addition, it is very sensitive to excitement. This machine was not seriously designed for the sea coast - its elements are lakes and rivers.
It seems to me that we should abandon the illusion that it is well suited for amphibious assault and make it more reliable for such conditions. Over the past 70 years, a million options have been invented how to ensure this.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: yehat2

This machine was not seriously designed for the sea coast - its elements are lakes and rivers.

Why develop 2 products, if one floats everywhere, albeit not entirely successfully. This approach also leads to crap in combat conditions.
The first amphibious vehicle, the PT-76, was adopted in 1951, naturally, based on the experience of the Second World War and the challenges of the war in Western Europe, with overcoming the mass of water lines.
And it will float by sea, and by the ocean, to the Kuril Islands? Will swim, only along the bottom.

[yehat2]

why develop? Is it difficult to hang the floats so that you don't drown?
Americans have a wealth of experience in successful decisions, why can't you copy something stupid from them? Could increasing the height of the nose to ride the wave be an insoluble task?