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In Ukraine, the first data were received from the flight recorders of the crashed An-26

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Ukrainian investigators obtained the first data from previously discovered "black boxes" of the An-26 transport aircraft. We are talking about an airplane that crashed while landing in the Kharkiv region. The data of the recorders, reflecting the technical parameters of the flight, are being studied.


Recall that then 26 people died, most of whom were cadets of the National University of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine named after Kozhedub. Of all those on board, only one managed to survive.

Ukrainian sources say that all work on decoding the flight recorder data will be carried out by the end of this week. Noteworthy is the following statement by the representative of the investigation team:

The flight recorders are very old, but the data on them has been preserved in a satisfactory condition.

It goes on to say that in the case of the plane crash of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces in the area of ​​the city of Chuguev, about 40 people were interrogated, including both military personnel and eyewitnesses of the incident.

At the moment, several versions are being considered, the priority of which is the version about the failure of the aircraft engines. Recall that earlier in the Ukrainian press there was information that the An-26 engines underwent the last major overhaul about 30 years ago, and the An-26 itself was very intensively operated. Only on the last day he managed to make six flights.

It is reported that a version of the error of the crew and flight management is also being considered.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 30 September 2020 07: 06
    +1
    As soon as the "black boxes" are found, the creative ardor of the journalist immediately disappears ...
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 30 September 2020 07: 20
      -6
      Is it strange that this junk has the recorders not yet rusty?
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 1 October 2020 11: 31
        0
        Judging by the minuses, one can judge the number of Ukrainian "activists" on the site. bully
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 1 October 2020 21: 41
          -1
          Quote: siberalt
          Judging by the minuses, one can judge the number of Ukrainian "activists" on the site. bully

          Huh! Correctly say ActYvystiv! Yak axis laughing I remembered anecdote about beer and pyve .. "And also Muscovites speak at our pyvo pIIiiivo .. Axis of yaky bastards!"
    2. vkl.47
      vkl.47 30 September 2020 08: 22
      0
      30 years ago there was a major overhaul. This is just some kind of game. This bucket just stood in the open air all this time. And everyone knew everything. And no one will bear responsibility. The maximum will be fired.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 30 September 2020 09: 37
        -1
        Quote: vkl.47
        this bucket just stood in the open all this time

        Not standing, but flying.
        moreover, the An-26 itself was operated very intensively. Only on the last day he managed to make six flights.
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 30 September 2020 09: 42
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        Quote: vkl.47
        30 years ago there was a major overhaul. It's just some kind of game.

        The last flight he was supposed to make (after all the extensions) in 2003.

        And his tail and mane for another seven years!

        One has only to marvel at the safety margin of the aircraft - a good car!

        But everything has a limit, alas ...

        It reminded me that in one monastery, standing on a steep cliff, tourists were lifted in a basket on a rope.

        Tourist, apprehensively looking at the rope:
        -How often do you change it?
        -Do not worry: as soon as the old one breaks!
      3. Looking for
        Looking for 30 September 2020 16: 08
        +2
        Earlier, the company said that the crashed An-26Sh aircraft, serial number 56-08, side sign 76, was built on October 21, 1977 at the Kiev Aviation Plant (now it is part of Antonov). The aircraft was operated by the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and performed about 5770 flights.

        Read also: In Lviv region, they said goodbye to cadet Vitaly Volkhov, who died in the AN-26 plane crash
        The aircraft underwent two major overhauls, the last of which was in 1996.

        In August this year, work was carried out to study the technical condition of the aircraft with the participation of specialists from the Antonov State Enterprise on the basis of the A4101 military unit in Chuguev. As a result, the aircraft had a service life of 44 years and 8 months (until June 21, 2022) and a service life until the next major overhaul - 26 years (until July 30, 2022).

        The specialists of Motor Sich PJSC extended the service life of the left engine before the next overhaul until June 5, 2021. The calendar service life of the right engine has been extended until October 11, 2020, i.e. 24 YEARS WITHOUT REPAIRS !!!
    3. Senka naughty
      Senka naughty 30 September 2020 10: 15
      +1
      To me, this kind of news reminds me of an auction .. A lot is being pushed out for the ownership and editing of information from the recorders of the crashed AN-26.
      The data has been received, but it is up to the buyer to decide what to publish.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 30 September 2020 11: 51
        0
        Quote: Senka Mad
        A lot is put up for the ownership and editing of information from the recorders of the crashed AN-26.
        The data has been received, but it is up to the buyer to decide what to publish.

        What difference does it make what is actually written on these recorders? Well, we and the whole world listened like drunken Poles, despite the dispatcher's warning, ordered the pilots to land in Smolensk ... So what? Now, it turns out, during the repair of the Polish side No. 1, "we laid two (!) Explosive devices."
        And here the skakuasses will make Russia "guilty". Yesterday, the first attempts were already made - so far only journalists say that "Russia destroyed the future elite of the Ukrainian Air Force for fear that in the near future it is with them that Russian pilots will have to fight in the Donbass."
        Wait a few days - Zelensky will say, Merkel and the Poles and the Tribaltika will sing along.

        Also, the owners of the "City on the Hill" will be quite nodding - you say right, right ...
        And at the UN Security Council, the skakuasses will propose sanctions against Russia "for the destruction of the elite of the Ukrainian Air Force."
        1. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 30 September 2020 13: 02
          +2
          Here I am about this, that delaying the release of information is like a "drum roll" before they figure out what to say and prepare the info-background. And there is no one to demand an immediate announcement, except for the relatives of the victims.
  2. Egoza
    Egoza 30 September 2020 07: 07
    +1
    It is surprising that the versions with saboteurs, bombs and other "gifts" from Russia or Donetsk are not considered.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 30 September 2020 07: 09
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      It is surprising that the versions with saboteurs, bombs and other "gifts" from Russia or Donetsk are not considered.

      Aha
      Shchaz!
      Already at full speed, the stubborn theme is awakened, that is to blame for everything - guess who three times over?
      Of course Russia!
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 30 September 2020 08: 13
        0
        always - who slept badly blames the bed.

        well, sometimes another pillow
      2. rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 30 September 2020 08: 38
        -2
        And who else, why hasn’t been repairing the pig-nosed summerak for 30 years
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 September 2020 07: 27
      +2
      Quote: Egoza
      It is surprising that the versions with saboteurs, bombs and other "gifts" from Russia or Donetsk are not considered.


      You missed a lot ...

  3. askort154
    askort154 30 September 2020 07: 10
    +6
    Take the 21st Cadet aboard a training aircraft ?! Complete madness in charge of training.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 30 September 2020 07: 13
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Take the 21st Cadet aboard a training aircraft ?! Complete madness in charge of training.

      Moreover, guys from different courses! From the 2nd and 4th! Saving resources !!!
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Looking for
        Looking for 30 September 2020 15: 50
        +1
        Have you ever been on board a TU-134SH OR TU-134UBL?
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 30 September 2020 07: 26
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Take the 21st Cadet aboard a training aircraft ?!

      Yes, it is not entirely clear, the crashed plane - An-26Sh, it is intended for training cadets-navigators, apparently converted into a transport aircraft or, simply the usual transportation of personnel was carried out. It is not clear how it is possible to perform such a number of flights per day. In cases there is no control and preparation, laxity begins.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 30 September 2020 09: 41
        0
        Quote: bober1982
        Apparently they were converted into a transport aircraft or, simply, the usual transportation of personnel was carried out. It is not clear how it is possible to perform such a number of flights per day.

        This is your speculation. And there was a training flight. And 6 flights per flight shift is not a lot even for a strategist.
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 30 September 2020 09: 43
          +1
          Quote: Piramidon
          And there was a training flight.

          Who specifically trained, cadets-pilots or cadets-navigators?
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 30 September 2020 10: 08
            -1
            Quote: bober1982
            Who specifically trained, cadets-pilots or cadets-navigators?

            In general, the An-26Sh is intended for training navigators, but, perhaps, the "non-brothers", for the sake of economy, at the same time decided to transport pilots. request All the same, there were a lot of people on board.
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 30 September 2020 10: 18
              +2
              Quote: Piramidon
              but, perhaps, the "non-brothers", for the sake of economy, at the same time decided to carry the pilots

              How can this be understood, nonsense is complete, the landing party had to be planted, even if they jumped at the same time.
              Quote: Piramidon
              All the same, there were a lot of people on board.

              If we mean the trainees (?) Cadets, then the wrong word.
              No training with such a number of cadets is out of the question, no matter who they are - pilots or navigators.
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 30 September 2020 10: 20
                -2
                Quote: bober1982
                the landing party had to be planted, let them jump at the same time.

                This is a different educational institution. lol
        2. bober1982
          bober1982 30 September 2020 09: 50
          0
          Quote: Piramidon
          And 6 flights per flight shift is not a lot even for a strategist.

          ???? Nothing beguiled.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 30 September 2020 10: 01
            -1
            Quote: bober1982
            Quote: Piramidon
            And 6 flights per flight shift is not a lot even for a strategist.

            ???? Nothing beguiled.

            No, I didn't. Takeoff and landing is flight. During training flights in the area of ​​the airfield, even our Tu-95RTs achieved a dozen take-offs and landings per shift. Takeoff - 15 minutes circle around the box - landing - taxiing (without taxiing to the parking lot) - takeoff again ...
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 30 September 2020 10: 21
              0
              Quote: Piramidon
              even our Tu-95RTs achieved ten takeoffs and landings per shift

              Gee.
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 30 September 2020 12: 00
              -1
              Quote: Piramidon
              No, I didn't. Takeoff and landing is flight. During training flights in the area of ​​the airfield, even our Tu-95RTs achieved a dozen take-offs and landings per shift. Takeoff - 15 minutes circle around the box - landing - taxiing (without taxiing to the parking lot) - takeoff again ...

              A friend in the Soviet Army still served in an aviation school somewhere in the Kuban, laid brake parachutes. He told me that the cadets also flew on fighters. 2-3 flight shifts (there were also night shifts). For a flight shift - from 40 to 60 brake parachutes. Accordingly, takeoffs and landings. They had MiGs there. What - I do not remember, unfortunately.
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 30 September 2020 12: 16
                -1
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                For a flight shift - from 40 to 60 brake parachutes. Accordingly, takeoffs and landings.

                I'm not even talking about fighters. So 6 flights per shift is not a lot.
                1. Looking for
                  Looking for 30 September 2020 15: 57
                  0
                  It is not the number of flights that is important, but their duration. In the training regiments of Soviet flight schools, 6 flights per shift was the norm. From day to day
    3. Avior
      Avior 30 September 2020 07: 36
      +2
      It was training cadets, navigation and communication.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 30 September 2020 07: 40
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        It was training cadets, navigation and communication.

        The standard group for training cadets (navigators) on the An-26Sh is from 8 to 10 trainees, where more than 20 people can be trained.
        1. Avior
          Avior 30 September 2020 07: 44
          +3
          I don’t know, I know that we were practicing navigation and ground communication skills.
          Apparently, somehow posted.
        2. Reviews
          Reviews 30 September 2020 07: 59
          +2
          Quote: bober1982
          on the An-26Sh - from 8 to 10 trainees, where to put more than 20 people for training.

          Each training console has two seats.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 30 September 2020 08: 38
            0
            Quote: Avis
            Each training console has two seats.

            Not training consoles, but training workplaces, a dozen of them.
            1. Avior
              Avior 30 September 2020 08: 47
              +1
              10 study jobs, but they are double, so they fit, it turns out
              An-26SH was intended for training cadets-navigators This version differed from the basic version, first of all, by the target equipment placed in the cargo compartment instead of the troop transport. There were 10 jobs for cadets and one for an instructor. Each workstation included a table and a double seat, as well as a remote control with instrumentation and radio equipment.

              http://www.airwar.ru/enc/other/an26sh.html
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 30 September 2020 08: 53
                0
                Quote: Avior
                10 study jobs, but they are double, so they fit, it turns out

                Yes, that's not the point, who argues that they did not fit. The question is, why take so many cadets on board, if for training (as reported), then this is complete ...
                It turns out that there was a regular transportation.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 30 September 2020 08: 59
                  0
                  no, I read that it was educational.
                  Most likely, the economy, it is not cheap to take it out into the age of computers and other simulators, seems to have been optimized. When An26Sh was being made, there were simply no simulators like modern ones.
                  But even then they clearly provided for 2 people - one is studying, the second is following, then they change.
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 30 September 2020 09: 11
                    0
                    Quote: Avior
                    But even then they clearly provided for 2 people - one is studying, the second is following, then they change.

                    Not certainly in that way.
                    It is impossible to train so many cadets in one flight, this is fiction.
                    I agree that our former brothers-in-arms are too carried away with optimization.
    4. 210ox
      210ox 30 September 2020 09: 14
      0
      As far as I am aware of this method since Soviet times. Train cadets. A similar catastrophe occurred near Odessa thirty-five years ago.
  4. nnm
    nnm 30 September 2020 07: 11
    +4
    The flight recorders are very old, but the data on them has been preserved in a satisfactory condition.

    Made in USSR!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 September 2020 07: 28
      +1
      Quote: nnm
      The flight recorders are very old, but the data on them has been preserved in a satisfactory condition.

      Made in USSR!

      A defect ... Not fully decommunized ...
  5. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 30 September 2020 07: 43
    +2
    ... An-26 engines underwent the last major overhaul about 30 years ago

    We flew on an ancient wreck.
    There is one more point in the repair of ancient equipment in the absence of normal funding, this is when spare parts are removed from a dead car to repair a working machine without taking into account the residual resource of the removed spare part.
    Then some kind of bolt on the move and falls off.
    1. Avior
      Avior 30 September 2020 08: 11
      +1
      Probably need to wait for the reasons for the accident to be clarified.
      The aircraft was periodically checked for residual life at the manufacturers - both for the airframe and for the engine
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 30 September 2020 09: 20
        0
        Quote: Avior
        Probably need to wait for the reasons for the accident to be clarified.

        Of course you need to, I agree with you.
        I made an assumption about systemic violations in the maintenance of equipment.
    2. Looking for
      Looking for 30 September 2020 16: 00
      +1
      REPAIRS AND EXTENSION OF THE CD RESOURCE were carried out on paper.
      1. Qwertyarion
        Qwertyarion 30 September 2020 18: 05
        +1
        Where does this information come from?
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 September 2020 07: 44
    0
    Not in the horse feed, it will not help the banderlog. The country was ditched, and here is some kind of plane. Tomorrow everyone will forget.
  7. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 30 September 2020 08: 01
    0
    Of all the systems in this trough, only recorders seemed to work.
  8. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 30 September 2020 08: 43
    +1
    It is high time for the Sumerians to ride carts. Aircraft are too complex a technique for their pan-headed organisms. Vyshyvanka, hopak, bacon, moonshine and mova - that's what is the most for them!
  9. Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 30 September 2020 11: 41
    -1
    Well, nooo ... Putin is to blame. Ad intended!
  10. iouris
    iouris 30 September 2020 11: 54
    -1
    The data won't help.
    "Engines out of order" - are the engines in service?
    "National University of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine named after Kozhedub" - Three times Hero of the Soviet Union I.N. Kozhedub is an outstanding Soviet military pilot. He was buried at the Novodevichy cemetery in Moscow. And the "national" university is the University of Bandera and the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, the title omitted Three times Hero of the Soviet Union. Bandera or Vlasovites have no right to dispose of the names of the heroes of the USSR.
  11. agoran
    agoran 1 October 2020 20: 31
    -1
    "The reports of Ukrainian sources say that all work on decoding the data of flight recorders will be carried out by the end of this week."
    What?
    There is a maximum of SARPP-12, what can be deciphered there within a week?
    There is a decryption in 5 minutes. Goonies.